My 2 cents on the recent update

[real badger]

I've been following the prior "Upcoming Tent Changes" thread for a while without putting my 2 cents in so here goes. I'm primarily a grinder, but I also try to vary my play and also do run and gun and ambush styles of play. It helps to keep the game fresh for me personally. Being primarily a grinder though I understand how much this stings to most people here. EDIT I didn't realize before commenting before that they changed respawns with exiting the map. I CANNOT GET BEHIND THIS CHANGE AT ALL!!!

Before making any of my other points which I feel are completely within reason, respectful, and valuable to all players/playstyles, I have to address the respawns being changed. I'm angry, as any grinder should be. This is absolutely ridiculous. This is targeting only grinders, and will affect the majority of your content creators and your player base. The "play how you want to play" adage cannot be claimed with this change. You're hurting your community, creators and ultimately yourselves with this one. This is bad. Really bad.

However, this change really isn't going to affect 95% of grinds. Most of my G1 grinds were setup when you had to place tents 250m/273yds from zones already. A few zones will have to be adjusted for players that had the shoot one zone>travel to pickup tent>shoot back on prior zone. Even people making the argument that the game is meant to be more arcade style cannot deny that was abusing broken mechanics, regardless of HOW LONG it's been in the game, it was broken.

That being said though, Tahr will be nearly impossible after this update. I respect that they want to make them unique and even more difficult to hunt, but finding feed and rest zones that you'll be able to set up tents 250m/273yds away from on hills is going to be next to impossible because of the terrain being too steep. I do have to say though...all animals drink. I find that aspect a bit silly to be honest.

Continued in comments....

Earlier in the thread a suggestion was made to add sleeping bags with much lower spook radius than tents. I think this was a wondeful idea that could be used across multiple grinds for multiple species. Another would simply be to add drink zones and callers(not by using perks and skills) for Tahr. Another would be to reduce overall spook radius to a more reasonable 150m/164yds.Based on map sizes, and distances you have to walk to zones, 250m is just too far a distance imho.

I feel that EW was good in making these changes, OTHER THAN THE RESPAWN CHANGE, but that it only hurts one playstyle. I believe to maintain balance and enjoyability for all players, other changes such as the above mentioned should have been incorporated at the same time, or the update should have been delayed until it was possible to maintain balance. Just
my 2 cents.

I stand by everything I said in my messages above. HOWEVER...the respawn change is REALLLLLLLLY bad. They stepped on their own foot with this one. This is going to hurt everyone. The grinders, the community, their creators, 90% of their player base, and ultimately themselves. I cannot get behind this change. This isn't just fixing bugs. This is targeting grinders. I don't care what they say. Claiming "play how you want" and "we even encourage grinders" no longer applies. I can't support EW on this...I was trying to be reasonable with my response. This is wrong though. Fix your bugs, don't target the majority of your player base.

[balmy moat]

I totally agree with "all animals drink". Having animals with no drink times on any map is silly in my opinion. Show me in any species of animal in real life that doesn't drink and you will have an extinct animal species. But it is a game after all. Right. It can't be realistic.

[fading cobalt]

IRL , not all animals drink from lakes and rivers. Some eat snow (tahr, Rocky Mountain goats, chamois), some drink from puddles or lick dew off plants (rabbits, turkeys).

[real badger]

🤯

[fading cobalt]

My point is that they don't have to drink at a lake. And game mechanics don't require it either.

[feral bay]

sleeping bag like in the ark with a smaller scare zone would actually be good (give me the option to sleep/teleport in treestand )