pls don’t do the tent update change

[last imp]

The only way to correct this issue is to fix the tents as planned and then give the Tahr drink zones .... this basically put the G1 grind back to where it was before Nepal ....

[wheat rapids]

Don’t want the game to be for kids. Be patient. It’s hunting game.
Grinding was way too easy because of the bug.
Thank You EW for that patch.
We want to have valuable trophies and not easy ones because of arcade fast travel which didn’t spook animals. Let’s hunt and not fast travel all the time. 🤝

[cursive shell]

I play this game to hunt and shoot animals, not to wait to shoot 1 deer everyday

[tired brook]

But you're not hunting, you're just zone hopping to the next tent, point and click lol.
You want to just shoot animals all ya gotta do is stand in the middle of a field and pick off roe deer all day. They practically eat out of your hand and comeback to calls like nothing happened 😆

[cursive shell]

😐

[vague mantle]

For those who whine, it would be far too easy and unrealistic. Just play it like before and it's fine. But you don't have to deny everyone the fun! (In case people have misunderstood, however that works.😅I am against the change!)

[bitter ledge]

It’s an ARCADE STYLE HUNTING GAME. It’s not going to be 100% realistic. Thats not saying that you can’t hunt realistically, there’s nothing stopping you from doing so, but don’t deny people the ability to grind simply because YOU don’t like that it’s unrealistic.

[coarse crypt]

This is a game where anyone can play how they want but people get so upset cause someone isn’t playing the game the same they play it.

[wheat rapids]

Yes this game is arcade. Nobody denies people to grind.
But grinding the way it was possible during the bug is crazy. It was without limits. Now you can grind with limits.

[coarse crypt]

These things are always intended and only become a bug when EW sees that grinders are using it to grind then magically it is a “bug that needs to be fixed”

[wheat rapids]

No it was a bug. It was not possible to travel from tent to tent without spooking animals before.

[coarse crypt]

Yeah but with the new map that TOOK THEM A YEAR TO GET ALL THIS FIGURED OUT everything was working as intended until grinders found a way to use it to grind and then and only then it became a bug that needed to be fixed.

I understand that there are things that creators miss but they had an extra 6 months to get this figured out.

Either way I’m off to work

[wheat rapids]

Who else but players will point out a bug in the game?
The more attention it gets, the more the game bug is exploited.

The sooner to fix bug the better. But it doesn’t mean that bug which was not fixed should persist forever. It was cheating bug. It discourages players to walk and move in reserve. It supports players in fast taveling.

[last imp]

This bug was just recently introduced with the Nepal map release .... It has only been around for a month .... It was actually noticed by a CC before the map was even released .... So fixing this just puts things back they way they were before Nepal .....

[iron surge]

There has to be a win win… if they want to change the tent thing again then they must give the Tahr a drink time.

[last imp]

I don't think there must be a compromise ... Not for fixing a bug that is only a month old .... But giving Tahr a drink zone might appease some .... And I have no idea why they even need to be appeased ...

[strong estuary]

They should just add a mode to the Hirschfelden shooting range that lets you choose a species and it presents a cardboard cutout of random rarity one at a time. Keep shooting until you get a special shiny one. Then keep shooting some more. That'll generate the experience grinders are looking for, and then the devs can focus on tailoring the open world for the players who actually want to experience it.

[jovial mantle]

The tent thing has been around for at minimum 1 year

[last imp]

you are incorrect ...... the bug that has been around for more than a year was a render bug ... In their attempt to fix the render bug for Nepal they created another bug that prevents animals from spooking .... The new patch is supposed to fix the spooking bug that has only been around since Nepal was released ....

[jovial mantle]

I've never seen animals not spook once

[last imp]

Thats the whole point of the issue ... you can place a tent in the middle of a zone and fast travel to it but the animals will not spook .... The patch reintroduces a 250m spook radius when fast traveling ..... This has been the way the game has worked for several years ....

[jovial mantle]

Not true

[jovial mantle]

They do spook within the 250 m radius from a tent hasn't stopped not for me at least

[last imp]

Not going to argue the point here .... there are already so many threads doing it now

[jovial mantle]

Yeah because of the destruction of the ability to grind especially tahr

[cursive shell]

I think the tent mechanic and being able to get on top of animals can be the easier Great One grinding thing people want! Since shooting animals is easier and grinds can be setup easier now.

[jovial mantle]

It's not true I can't put a tent on top of a zone and kill anything unless it's running

[last imp]

The patch doesnt do anything more than put things back they way they were before Nepal .... No one is delibertly trying to punish grinders

[jovial mantle]

Lol you watch the game will lose a lot of players

[last imp]

Its because you are not doing the exploit correctly .... while you are in the tent they will not spook .... you step out of the tent in sight and they will spook .... the players exploint this are fast traveling very close ... they step or crawl out of the tent into a blind and then kill whatever .... They are exploiting a bug ....

[jovial mantle]

Lol your just twist ing things to fit what you want

[tired brook]

Instead of cardboard cutouts perhaps actual animated targets? I'd be on board for that

[pseudo coral]

Thats just not true man, you know it. The proposed changes are not the same as it was before. Before nothing within 200 meters of your tent would spawn, you would have to walk or travel other 200 meters from the animal for it to appear. The proposed change not only makes that animals immediately spook, it also ups the spook zone from 200 to 250. So you are punishing grinders, you are forcing grinders to re do most of the set ups, making hunting in small lakes almost impossible, making tahr impossible and adding hours and hours of frustrating work to herd management. I agree tents are too strong right now, but the change they want (and probably are going) to do is just to add hours and not needed difficulty to grinds. Jaxy said it himself, the reason they made the first change was to stop grinders from jumping from zone to zone while having some animals not render. The entire tent change is focused on messing with grinds, it just backfire with the “bug” that we have right now.

[last imp]

Here is a video showing the bug that was introduced when they release the Nepal map ..... can't make it any clearing and I'm not going to argue the point any more ..... believe what you all want to believe .... They are just trying to fix what they broke with Nepal ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve6N_UA7Rf0&t=2s

[strong estuary]

That's certainly a decision that would have to be made from the start, because if they started with cardboard and later switched to animated then the grinders would claim they're being punished with having to wait a few seconds for the animals to stop animating.

[craggy ore]

I got manners, you lot whining over a bug thats being EXPLOITED being fixed 🙄

[jovial mantle]

It's not that the bug got fixed they went too far with it

[craggy ore]

They're just putting things to how they intended

[jovial mantle]

And inturn making it impossible to get tahr g1

[strong estuary]

Removing the tahr Great One from the game would make it impossible to get. Burying them all underground would make it impossible to get. Giving each one an M1 Abrams tank make it impossible to get.

This just makes it harder to get than you'd prefer.

[jovial mantle]

It makes it impossible because they spook before you can see them

[strong estuary]

Walk.

[jovial mantle]

That's what I'm talking about they are too sensitive

They know your there from like 150 m out and can't see them till about 100m out

[strong estuary]

I've killed them without the tent exploit, so not impossible.

But it seems like you should be suggesting they lower the tahr's awareness rather than asking to keep the ability to cheese yourself on top of them with a bug.

[jovial mantle]

I've never used current bug

And I think they should revert the changes back to pre napal when no one was really fussing

[strong estuary]

That was also a bug.

[jovial mantle]

Nobody was fussing though and it worked

[strong estuary]

Worked for grinders. Didn't work as intended.

[jovial mantle]

Not according to jaxy cause it was around for over a year before that and he was always saying it was working as intended

[strong estuary]

Communication between the devs and community managers is obviously poor. I don't blame Jaxy for having bad info.

[jovial mantle]

He's not just a community manager he's in the company

[strong estuary]

All the community managers are employees. But he's not even on the same continent as the actual devs.

[jovial mantle]

Yeah he knows what's going on

[strong estuary]

Not sure how you can watch the streams and how many times he's had to correct himself about something and still say that.

[jovial mantle]

Because he's not aloud to say things

[strong estuary]

There are some things he's not allowed to say, obviously, but there is also very obviously awful communication going on.

The list they gave him for backfills had greater kudu on it for god's sake.

[jovial mantle]

He's aloud to say if the game is working as intended and he was told it was

[strong estuary]

He was told INCORRECTLY that it was working as intended.

[jovial mantle]

That's your prerogative not 100% fact

[strong estuary]

As though what you're saying is based on hard evidence?

That's not how prerogative is used btw

[jovial mantle]

There is hard proof that he has stated that the game is working as intended before Nepal

[strong estuary]

But we're not debating whether he said it, we're debating whether he knew the devs' actual intent.

[jovial mantle]

There's grinders in every game and if you stop the ability to grind you inevitably start destroying your own game

[strong estuary]

That's absurd.

[jovial mantle]

Tell me 1 game people play these days that doesn't require grinding on some lvl

[jovial mantle]

Can you name 1

[strong estuary]

Literally any game that doesn't have experience or resources that carry over between sessions. I just played through Chuchel the other day. A lot of grinders in that one when it came out?

But do you really think that's the part of what you said that most took me aback? Or do you think maybe it's your declaration that any game that doesn't cater to grinders destroys itself?

[jovial mantle]

Lol you just eliminated every game in existence other than a flight simulator

[strong estuary]

So it turns out you can name not only 1 game, but a whole genre of games. Just wasting my time asking me to name one for you?

How about you back up your other statement, or are you just wasting my time with that too?

[jovial mantle]

Yeah and flight Sims are so unpopular they haven't went to console

[strong estuary]

I guess that answers whether you're just wasting my time.

[jovial mantle]

Just shows your not willing to look at fact that not being able to grind will probably ruin the game

[bitter ledge]

That’s not exactly true. The game was still incredibly popular before G1s were added to the game.

[golden stone]

They are NOT unpopular. MSFS is on console and many people play them. Especially budding pilots

[edgy fable]

Stupid thing to say

[craggy ore]

What is bro YAPPING about 💀 I play on xbox on MSFS2020, flight sims are cool and always will be

[unique heart]

There are plenty of games that don't require grinding to exist or be fun.

[jovial mantle]

Yeah people were grinding for diamonds

[craggy ore]

Exactly

[bitter ledge]

No. Grinding wasn’t even a popular thing then. I would know, I’ve been playing since 2017. People would herd manage their deer to try and manipulate the spawns, but it didn’t always work and it definitely wasn’t grinding.

[golden stone]

Same I love MSFS

[iron surge]

To be honest, to me it doesn’t matter if they change the tent thing or not… I sux at getting Tahr.

1. They either never in their zone,
2. flee because I have to fast travel to the same tent twice to see them (run off) or
3. they are so hidden you can’t get a tent or blind anywhere near them…

One of thee most frustrating computer codes to chase after…

And what’s the deal with placing tents… it’s so freaking difficult getting a spot… then the wind is always in the wrong direction…

[last imp]

@iron surge | it’s so freaking difficult getting a spot… then the wind is always in the wrong direction…

This is why you may have to put 2 or more tents down around a good Tahr zone ... To maximize your chance of getting a good wind direction ... So you Fast travel to the tent that will give you the best opportunity of getting close enough to take a shot ....

[iron surge]

Dude, I have like 2 zones in which I can drop a total of 3 Tahr 😂 man this sucks.

I’m not grinding for a G1, my goal is to only get a diamond of each species. Just got my 💎 bunny which I thought was going to be the hardest… and that after 23 kills no 24 was 💎.

Still to get is Tahr, Snow Leopard and Greylag Goos.

But yeah… guess the pain continues lol…