🇨🇳 Qinling Hunting Reserve (Central China Mountains)

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Despite hunting being banned in China in real life, EW has taken risks with adding species like the Bengal Tiger and Snow Leopard. This concept relies on them creating a storyline/timeline shifting so that hunting would be allowed in China. This map is based in Qinling, or the Qin Mountains of central China. Where the forested peaks hide very unique and amazing hunting opportunities. I feel like this map would be laid out similarly to Sunderpatan, with very high mountain peaks, thick lowlands, and highland forests.

Species (* indicates returning):
Class 8- Tibetan Blue Bear
Class 7- Asian Black Bear
Class 6- Golden Takin
Class 6- Thorold’s Deer
Class 6- Kansu Red Deer
Class 5- Tibetan Argali
Class 5- Himalayan Wolf
Class 4- Blue Sheep*
Class 4- Wild Boar*
Class 4- Mainland Serow
Class 4- Snow Leopard*
Class 3- Goitered Gazelle
Class 3- Chinese Goral
Class 3- Tufted Deer
Class 2- Goa
Class 2- Asian Golden Cat
Class 2- Clouded Leopard
Class 2- Red Panda
Class 1- Golden Pheasant
Class 1- Temminck’s Tragopan
Class 1- Chinese Monal
Class 1- Koklass Pheasant
Class 1- Reeve’s Pheasant
Class 1- Brown-Eared Pheasant
Class 1- Tolai Hare
Class 1- Yellow-Throated Marten

Possible Species:
Class 5- Giant Panda/Qinling Panda
Class 5- Leopard
Class 3- Eurasian Lynx*
Class 2- Tibetan Fox*

Pandas and Leopards are very unlikely to be huntable in the game but could possibly be part of the environment.

Let me know what you think!!

[misty aspen]

The more “high-altitude” areas of China makes sense for a Chinese reserve

Because before the Hunting Ban in the early 2000s most of the visiting hunters went to Western and Central China alongside Manchuria

Though I should point out that this is way to far west for Amur Leopards to show up

Though on the flipside Snow Leopard would be a better fit then either the Amur or Indochinese Leopards given that China has the largest population of Snow Leopard (followed by Mongolia)

But I highly doubt Giant Pandas would ever be added as a huntable species

[empty latch]

I considered snow leopards but I was unsure of how far eastward their range went, I may add them to possible species, and there is known segmented leopard populations in this region of china, but it isn’t known which subspecies these leopards belong to. With that being said the population is so small that it doesn’t really make sense to add them as a huntable species anyway. Also Qinling is known for the brown panda subspecies, and even if they aren’t huntable I feel like some of them on the map
would make it feel complete.

[misty aspen]

If Pandas do get added

They would have to be considered “Invalid Targets”

As for leopard subspecies, I did read that apparently it was the Indochinese Leopards that lived in that part of China but even I’m not 100% sure

There was (?) a subspecies under the trinomial name Panthera pardus japonensis aka the North Chinese Leopard but apparently it gets lumped with either Amur Leopards or Indochinese Leopards

[empty latch]

yeah i considered calling it north chinese leopard on this map concept but since they’re so unlikely to get added i didn’t think it mattered much. i agree on the panda point too, it would be like dogs but it would just be so great to have them in the game, plus it could add conservation to the story line.

Starting with the predators, this map features the rare brown bear subspecies, the Himalayan Blue Bear, which has unique fur markings, a new species, the Asian Black Bear, the Himalayan Wolf subspecies, the elusive Clouded Leopard and Asian Golden Cat, and the Yellow-Throated Marten

[empty latch]

The new big game species include the incredibly striking Golden Takin, Thorold’s or White-Lipped Deer, Gansu Red Deer, which is actually an elk subspecies, the first argali subspecies to be added, the Tibetan Argali, the Mainland Serow, Goitered Gazelle, Chinese Goral, Tufted Deer, another deer with fangs, and finally the tiny Goa.

Lastly for the small game I thought three of the most beautiful pheasant species in the world would make great additions to this map, the Golden Pheasant, Temminck’s Tragopan, and the Chinese Monal

[empty latch]

I wanted to add a little more small game to this map, to add a lot of life to the lowland areas, and to demonstrate the variety of birds in China, so I added the Reeve’s Pheasant, Koklass Pheasant, and Brown-Eared Pheasant, as well as the Tolai Hare and iconic Red Panda, which I debated including or not. Lmk what you think!

Qinling Hunting Reserve (Central Chinese Mountains)

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🇨🇳 Qinling Hunting Reserve (Central Chinese Mountains)

[gusty karma]

Pandas would going off the deep end bad

[empty latch]

I think they would work best as part of the environment that couldn’t be killed.

[rugged root]

Besides pandas i deeply enjoy this suggestion and would like playing it

@empty latch you might also like this https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1253834791468535890

[empty latch]

that is a good suggestion i just think that china has more of a variety of species than bhutan, but if the devs didn’t want to use china then bhutan would be a great option

[misty aspen]

If they devs want to play it safe and stick to countries that allow sport hunting

Mongolia is a fantastic option

[empty latch]

True but I also think they could put a map in a country with no hunting, even if they don’t mention the country by name

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[grim obsidian]

You can hunt in China just need the right paperwork

[nova ice]

Not since 2004 irc

The Chinese Government does NOT want you to have guns in their country

[grim obsidian]

Ahhh

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[half jetty]

Its game...

[nova ice]

And?

Notice how despite how many endangered species we get the locations remain legal?

I’d honestly rather they work on Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Russia 2-3.0, Japan if they want Asia maps

[empty latch]

There’s tons of species unique to china so if they were willing to push that boundary it would be a great place for a map

[nova ice]

I’d honestly rather they work on Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Russia 2-3.0, Japan if they want more Asia maps

[empty latch]

i don’t disagree but that doesn’t change the fact that about half of these species could not occur on any other map

[nova ice]

It’s like 18:3 (plus the birds) for animals that can have a map with the grounds that it’s atleast set in a country with legal hunting in the grounds that it’s set in a map with legal hunting lol

[empty latch]

many of these are only found in countries without hunting (Bhutan, India, Myanmar)

[nova ice]

Lotta Nepal, Eastern Russia, and Japan.

Oh and quite a few from Pakistan and Mongolia (mainly Pakistani though)

[misty aspen]

That is a shame
But why worry about species that are exclusive to countries that have outlawed hunting

When we have so many species in countries that do allow hunting

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🇨🇳 Qinling Hunting Reserve (Central China Mountains)

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[gusty karma]

CHINA FOR EVER

[frozen marsh]

I think China is possible, people will be wanting to hunt in places that isn’t really possible irl and get totally new experiences, which china would offer with landscapes and biomes seen nowhere else, pandas would be cool to see to make it realistic maybe we wouldn’t be able to hunt them but to have them in like a sanctuary like on Emerald coast, where you can care for it

[misty aspen]

If they did a Chinese Reserve, I think it would mostly consist of species that were considered game animals when China was last open to hunting which means animals like blue sheep, gazelles, ibex, argali, takin, wapiti, white-lipped deer, Siberian roe deer, sambar (in some parts), yaks, smaller deer like muntjac and tufted deer, wild boar, serow, goral and small game like chukar, various pheasants and other upland birds

I could see some animals like snow leopard, Himalayan wolf, Asiatic black bear, kiang and macaques being possible inclusions

Animals I can't see happening are tigers, leopards and giant pandas

That is if they choose to set a future reserve in China and not a country that allows hunting like Pakistan, Japan or Mongolia

[frozen marsh]

Yea and that seems awesome given the biomes (like the pic i shared), i do think maybe one panda should be added in to like i said a sanctuary because they are such a big part of what Chinese nature is, like i said like a enclosure where you could have it walking around and such it would be cool to add you know, but hunt, no

[rugged root]

Are they? Wouldn't say so

[frozen marsh]

Why not

[misty aspen]

I don’t think they would add an animal unless we could hunt it

Its why I ruled out Giant Pandas

[frozen marsh]

Probably but it would be cool because it’s China

[rugged root]

There just super rare and have a small range so aren't really a big wildlife thing in china

[frozen marsh]

I should’ve been clearer sorry, i meant they’re icons of the Chinese wildlife, if you think of Chinese animals the first thing to come to mind is pandas

[rugged root]

Ye

[misty aspen]

And that is true but when I think of hunting in China (before the ban of 2006) I think of Takins

[frozen marsh]

They do look pretty

[midnight mortar]

Now ... can this map ... have a sanctuary with Asian Pandas in it roaming around that we can watch and when trying to shoot it says "Invalid Target" ??

[frozen marsh]

I think we should be able to have that, if they can design a full rhino for a couple seconds for a story mission, they can make a panda with the existing bear animations in an enclosure

[rugged root]

That's 2018 EW 😔

[frozen marsh]

wdym

[rugged root]

A cheap joke that they fell of and wouldn't put in that effort again today

[frozen marsh]

Alr

[gusty karma]

the more you say and do i swear you are just a ragebaiter

[knotty sigil]

It’s illegal to hunt in china so rip

[frozen marsh]

Doesn’t have to stop us, it’s illegal to hunt european bison and snow leopards

Jaxy said in a stream way back that what would once stopping them in the beginning of the game’s development when it came to hunting isn’t anymore, they know people want exclusives experiences and they’re willing to implement non-huntable species irl. There he was talking about Africa, so maybe it is possible for a reserve like this

[misty aspen]

The difference is that people can hunt in Germany and Nepal

Heck a number of future South American, Asian (and to a lesser extent, African) reserves could feature a number of non-game species like jaguar on a Surinamese or Peruvian reserve, snow leopards in Mongolia, mugger crocodile on Pakistan or Malayan tapir on a Malaysian Reserve (there is apparently some big game hunting in Malaysia, but tapir is not a legal species for hunting)

As far as Africa goes, it has a wealth of legal game species from guineafowl and duiker to elephants, making the inclusion of non-game species like wild dog, vulture and gorilla highly unnecessary

[frozen marsh]

As i understood it hunting in South America is largely prohibites as well, and idk how far they’re planning to go with allowing to hunt endangered species but if they genuinenly do not care and just want to give people a cool experince, China is the way to go, outside of Africa

[misty aspen]

And we can still have a cool experiance without selecting countries that have banned sport hunting like China, Brazil and Kenya, if its Asian Mountain Hunting we have Pakistan and Central Asia to provide that (considering that hunting argali and markhor is something most people wouldn't be able to do anyways considering how expensive those hunts can be irl)

[frozen marsh]

Yeah true still want to hunt in China tho

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[gritty kelp]

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