Ammo Swapping to add variety

[cobalt mica]

Simple. For the original cost of the rifle, you can change it to use a different caliber.

Let's take the .270, either "color", as our example. I really love the iron sights but the caliber doesn't have as much power for taking down the animals I really like to hunt. So, I go to the store, choose the Huntsman and choose "custom caliber" then change it to .30-06 fir another 12k making the total cost 24k.

I won't even pretend, this is to combat the problem of having so many 4-8 weapons. Letting us change the calibers around will make sure we can use our favorite rifle with effective ammo no matter what gets added

(Let's be real, it's kinda boring to use the same gun all the time just because it works best)

[ancient tendon]

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[cobalt mica]

Yes, this would apply to nothing but the rifles

[cobalt mica]

Just a thought.

Since we have to download it all anyway, this could give base game players access to a few new rounds

[ancient tendon]

It is quite weird .308 and .30-06 aren’t base game…

[cobalt mica]

Right? Those are two very basic deer hunting calibers.

Also, if they did this, I could swap one of the .308 ARs to .243 for a monster 2-6

[cobalt mica]

This could also apply to the Cuomo and jernberg pistols too.

Gimme. 308 cuomo

[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

Apparently Ultimate Hunting has this baked in to some degree, that's wild but interesting

[cobalt mica]

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[maiden spire]

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[cobalt mica]

I really think this could be a fun mechanic

[cobalt mica]

So this is a mechanic in ultimate hunting and there's no class system so you have to make the choices yourself on what to use

[cobalt mica]

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[dapper harbor]

Kinda like what they did with the caplock it's only a class 1 change but it's still a good idea

[cobalt mica]

This would have been a better choice than most of the poll options

[violet flare]

Re:Ammo, I wonder if we could get a "collect your brass" skill which I imagine might give a small discount for ammo,

[cobalt mica]

That would take a total rework of their ammo system but I wouldn't mind having a reloading system in the game to make ammo a little stronger

[dapper harbor]

It'd also be nice if arrows were recoverable

depending on where you hit the animal obviously

[cobalt mica]

They are, it's a perk in the archery tree

[dapper harbor]

Oh? I didn't know that sorry, I'm still really new to the game

[cobalt mica]

This would at least give incentive to use the base game weapons more.

You could change the 7mm Regent/empress to 9.3x74r and avoid the drilling's weight but still get a great rifle.

You could change the .270 Huntsman to .308, .30-06, or 7mm just to change things up.

The Moradi .44 could be a .357, .45 Colt, or even a .454.

You'd only need to own the dlc with the caliber you want to use and the weapon you want to change. It's not making anything obsolete so much as giving a new way to use what we have.

[cobalt mica]

Thanks, wish more folks liked the idea than just me

[dapper harbor]

It's a really good idea I hope one of the developers sees this thread

[cobalt mica]

All the bolt and single action rifles could be changed but if you had the dlc and this is actually employed in the game you could switch the Cuomo pistol from .243 to .308 or the jernberg to to .338.

[dapper harbor]

I'd pay for that dlc

[cobalt mica]

I know there would have to be restrictions but I still want this

[cobalt mica]

So I've just realized how badly we need this. Take for example the Caversham 12ga, it's break action and easily switched barrels make perfect sense for this. You could switch it between all the shotgun calibers except .410

A 10GA over under using brass shells or the newer plastic ones would be an actual monster for hunting class 9 animals in a new and terrifyingly close engagement.

Next is simply the introduction of a Falling Block rifle (you could use the break action single shots from the base game but this would be cooler) you could chamber for any rifle or handgun cartridge from .223 to .470 and .357 to .454

I won't lie, most players wouldn't care for these two weapons but the few of us who would absolutely adore the opportunity would be ecstatic for it. I'd happily pay six dollars or more just to change the caliber nevermind what the in game currency cost I'd to actually do such a thing.

Please EW, at least try this for the long term players who've loved this game since it released

[cobalt mica]

.270 Huntsman 12,000
>custom caliber<
Select. .30-06
.308
.303
7mm
.338
Select: .30-06
Cost of change: 12,000 credits
Confirm?

Confirmed, .30-06 Huntsman added to inventory

[prisma grove]

Ive been wanting exactly this for ages in COTW. Fun fact, The .300 Canning and the .270 are both based on the Weatherby Mk.V only difference is the .300 is the Weatherby Mk.V Deluxe

[cobalt mica]

This could absolutely make the game more fun, you could choose your favorite rifle and make it your favorite caliber

[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

Still needs to be a thing, it would make everything much more usable

[prisma grove]

what does bump mean ? just keeps the thread open ?

[cobalt mica]

Yeah, you type bump to keep the thread somewhat near the top of the pile so there's a chance it'll be seen

[prisma grove]

Ooh ok cool

[cobalt mica]

Switching between ammo types on the same rifle would make customization way more in depth

[cobalt mica]

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[maiden spire]

WOTH stole Huxley’s idea, “Ammo change.” 🫨

[cobalt mica]

SERIOUSLY?!

[cobalt mica]

Crap. I hope we get an overhaul

[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

Been a couple days, enjoying WotH ammo update. Some of the new ammo covers different tiers of animals in the same caliber

[deft dragon]

This would be awesome. Change the Zarza .223 to .243 would be the first thing i'd do

[cobalt mica]

If it was .243 I might actually use it

[maiden spire]

I’d love a 20” BLR Takedown in .243. 🤠

[cobalt mica]

I'd make that thing either. 30-06 or .308, maybe .338 if they let me. I'd love that so much

[outer cape]

338 federal could be cool

[cobalt mica]

Would be, they'd have to change the name tho

[outer cape]

Yup.

[cobalt mica]

I mean, if you aren't letting us have new ammo you could at least let us change calibers for variety EW

[cobalt mica]

Bump again, still a fun idea

[hollow mortar]

I'm not giving up the fight either btw my 2nd overhaul is up finally after a few days 😅

[maiden spire]

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[cobalt mica]

Hey EW,

Consider this, if you added a feature like this then not only could you just add new calibers as a dlc, any new guns would benefit from it because if someone doesn't like the caliber of the weapon they can swap it or if they like the caliber but not the weapon they can switch it to a rifle they like. Either way, everybody gets to enjoy the dlcs

[outer cape]

This could work with virtually every gun already in place. The 45 cavalry to either 38/40 or 44/40 or 45 schofield, the 45-70 lever to 444marlin, the 30-30 coukd change to 38-55, 32 special, 25-35, 35 remington. Obviously lots of the bolt guns and semi-auto’s woukd be easiky swappable. I feel it would be easier to add new rounds rather than an entirely new gun each time. Of course some calibers would work with some guns better. For example there are 30-30 bolt actions but its definitely better suited in a lever gun. Or obviously you cant fit a 338 into the 22 pistol. So theres limitations to an extent 😂 we’ll see what ends up coming about

I also wish we could change barrel length/styles too. The 357 in its description says its mostly a defensive handgun. But i would not want an 8+ inch barrel for defense from a handgun if i had the option. Same with the 10mm, 454, and i’d like a longer barrel on guns like the 45-70 and maybe some shotguns to be changed too

[cobalt mica]

Gunsmithing DLC when?

[outer cape]

That would be sweet. Ew wants us to buy all these customization packs. They could have barrel lengths, caliber swaps, stock changes, etc

[cobalt mica]

Wouldn't stop anyone from buying dlc either, you'd still need the base weapon and the new ammo it would bring

[outer cape]

Also i wish we could top load. Fresh mag/tube plus one in chamber. It would make a big difference for guns like the 30-30, 45-70, 10mm (especially for wolves) and some others. And i agree.

[hollow mortar]

This was my thought towards the Gunsmith idea https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1260711487979262123

[cobalt mica]

A handful of new cartridges wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings

[maiden spire]

Bump!

[cobalt mica]

Bump again.

OPTIONS FOR OUR FAVORITE RIFLES

[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

Please EW, this would solve so many annoying little issues

[cobalt mica]

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[maiden spire]

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[cobalt mica]

Well that's terrifying. . . .

[cobalt mica]

Been gone a bit, bump

[cobalt mica]

OK, taking the Huntsman rifle as a base game weapon weapon. .270 is default but you could change it to .30-06 or .35 whelen for a major upgrade, or downgrade to .25-06 for class 3-6/7 hunts. All these calibers are in the same family (all of them are based on the .30-06). These are long action cartridges, like 7mm magnum, 7x57mm, .280, .300 magnum.

The Olsson is an example of a short action. Default is .308, but you could change it to .358, .243, .338 Federal, .260, and 7mm-08 are all in the same family, .308 is the parent case here.

These would be easy choices for upgrading any rifle. In case you aren't aware the break action guns, the original 7mm and 338, as well as the cuomo and jerberg, could be quite literally ANY caliber of rifle or handgun ammo. .22lr to .470.

The same is true for the Caversham shotgun, it is by default 12ga, but could be 10ga, 16ga, 20ga, eventually 28ga if it's added.

Gamekeeper 10ga slugs with the 3-7 scope as a bear gun? Yes, please EW

[cobalt mica]

Same could be said for the Ranger .243, starting the game a player can rely on the .243 to take any deer they happen by, but if they take an interest in bigger game they either have to wait until they can get the .270 or buy dlcs.

The option to swap the caliber of the Ranger to 7mm-08 for 3-7 for 4k or .308 4-8 for 8k allows them to have a great rifle early in the game that might make them enjoy the game more

[severe haven]

According to what I have seen on the Holland & Holland website for reference, with the Express King rifle in .470 Nitro Express, it could adopt another barrel to allow the use of the .300 caliber from the .300 Canning Magnum rifle, and it could also adopt another barrel for the future .375 H&H Magnum caliber. This wouldn’t take away the essence of the Express King rifle with these three calibers. However, I think the King rifle would lose its essence if fitted with a barrel for a much lighter caliber, like the .243. I know there are single-barrel rifles for the .243 caliber, such as the Rifle Express Alpine Hunter, because I wouldn’t want to acquire a King rifle with a barrel for the .243 caliber. I look forward to hearing your opinion.

[cobalt mica]

Personal choice.

The .470 cartridge has one class and only one class it covers, 9s. Considering the number of class 9 animals in game, the fact it can't equip a scope, it's weight, the low ammo capacity, and the .375 that's on the way, no one uses the .470 very much at all.

It doesn't need to be a .243, and honestly it would be way more useful as a 9.3x74r, 5-9 classes would make it usable on several different maps and more animals than ever.

This mechanic would not be required or a mandatory choice, if you don't want to change a gun, simply don't change it. Personally, I dislike the Tsurugi .338, so I'd change the .300 Marches (wood stocked one) to .338 so I can have a more traditional style .338. It covers the same classes, doesn't change the weight, and has one less round in the magazine. But I like the looks more and it feels good to me.

You don't have to take it to extremes, but being able to switch between 2 or 3 different calibers in your favorite rifles suddenly makes them even more fun and personalized.

[severe haven]

Some weapons can acquire another barrel for a specific caliber. For example, the Solokhin MN1890 bolt-action rifle (Mosin-Nagant) could acquire another barrel for the .30-06 Springfield caliber.

[cobalt mica]

Yes? Are you saying it has to change the appearance of the weapon? The only major change between 30-06 and 7.62x54r would be the shape of the bolt head and a slight change of the magazine to accept the longer 06 cartridge. Outwardly it could look exactly the same.

Same thing applies to the Enfield rifle, during ww2 several thousand were issued in .30-06 and the only difference in appearance was a red band around the forend to differentiate them

[severe haven]

I'm not saying that the barrel has to change in the design of this weapon in COTW because it is unnecessary. I'm saying that this weapon could acquire the .30-06 caliber in COTW as another caliber option for this particular weapon. This would be good for using up the ammunition one has stored.

[cobalt mica]

BTW, yes the M1 grand could use .25-06,.270, and .35 Whelan if they were ever added

[severe haven]

I believe the Gandhare Rifle is inspired by the Martini-Henry rifle (image on the right). The Gandhare Rifle could offer another caliber option, such as .303 British cartridges.

[cobalt mica]

Could also use .45-70, it's an older low pressure round so the Martini could handle it like the .577 but there'd be no smoke(unless you imagine it was using black powder)

[severe haven]

This post requires thorough research to achieve coherence among a range of possible cartridges for each weapon. There are some weapons that have exclusive cartridges.

[cobalt mica]

There are multiple caliber options for every rifle in the game. Any particular model will have at least 2 options to change to aside from the default

[cobalt mica]

Posted a list of calibers

#1287971438598422529

[cobalt mica]

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[drifting zealot]

I feel swapping calibers should only be done on a weapon that it's realistically possible to do. Like Winchester 1895 in .03-06 and 7.62x54R (among others). Just the first weapon to think of since I was just on a post about Roosevelt. We don't need a 22lr firing .308... That would be a bit much. But ammo swapping definitely should be a thing, especially because the 7.62x54R I think was exclusive to a weapon pack so the ammo wasn't in base game either. This would open up a lot of options and allow a player to get all types of ammo unless it was exclusive to a DLC weapon that only had a single caliber. A few of the DLCs I bought strictly because a weapon fired a certain type of ammo, But in the case of some iconic weapons like the mosin I bought it because it was interesting to use. Unfortunately not every player has the ability to shell out $50-60 and still get a DLC, Even if they are quite affordable. So this would provide a good middle ground. I'm all for it!

[cobalt mica]

The idea is to have every weapon be able to swap between three calibers, as far as the .22lr weapons there actually are two alternatives to it as well.

.22lr, .21 Sharp, and .17 Mach 2 all use the same cases so they'd be just a barrel swap

There's a list of calibers I made for this idea in #1287971438598422529

[cobalt mica]

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[drifting zealot]

Sounds like a perfectly crafted idea, it's not to big in scope, adds a lot to the game in terms of customizability, and let's players use their favorite weapons more. This definitely should be forwarded to the devs.

[cobalt mica]

Hopefully

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[maiden spire]

This is still a really great customization idea! 🤠

[olive ether]

This reminds me of the Rigby website

You can pick a rifle model and then which caliber you require it shoots

[cobalt mica]

That's the idea, choose the model of rifle you love, the caliber that covers the animals you want to hunt and pay a small fee, just like the paints or scope reticles

Bingo, your preferred rifle suddenly becomes the perfect weapon for anything you feel like hunting

[cobalt mica]

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Bump. Customization could add so much to this game

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[vagrant lion]

I would LOVE to use the martensson in a .308

[cobalt mica]

I'd love a .30-06 Olsson. And I want to hear the same sound that comes out of the eckers when it fires

[cobalt mica]

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[cobalt mica]

Heavily needed customization

[cobalt mica]

Bumping again for the sake of it

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[ancient tendon]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but the Ruger M77 (Kullman .22H in game) comes in .357!

[cobalt mica]

Think I mentioned it in a previous post but idk which one. Either way, you could also have this in .44 magnum if I'm not mistaken as well as the original. 22H

[cobalt mica]

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[spark star]

that sounds like a broken wrist waiting to happen. i do agree a caliber swap is a great idea but limit it to 2-3 types per weapon changing a virant to .470 would be just stupid and the cuomo in .338 you would either snap your wrist or give yourself a concussion when it hits you in the face.

[cobalt mica]

Yeah, I suggested the base caliber and two alternatives. Huntsman .270, with .30-06 and .257 as alternatives basically

[cobalt mica]

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Bump, again.

Choice would add so much versatility to the game in general

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[sinful sigil]

Crazy foreshadowing

[sinful sigil]

Again, y’all are prophets

[deft dragon]

??

[sinful sigil]

Predicting the Quist Reaper

[cobalt mica]

Wish I'd been wrong then