Update for Revontuli Coast ( New Species, Backfilling, Redistributions )

[dusk pawn]

Revontuli Coast is by far one of the or THE best map in the game and I think basically 99% of the community would agree its a masterpiece and even though its not really old there's still opportunities to make abit more realistic and better of course the map doesn't necessarily need this but I do think that it would be a good opportunity for Revontuli Coast as well as more variety in terms of species maybe. Hope you enjoy this post this is something I'd really like to see come to the game and give RC some love.

Backfill Species ( Potential Species for EW to choose from )

Class 1 Species

● Northern Shoveler
● Gadwall
● Garganey
● Long Tailed Duck
● Common Eider
● Eurasian Woodcock

Class 2 Species

● Eurasian Beaver
○ Red Fox
● Eurasian Badger
● European Pine Marten ( Class 1 or Class 2? )

Class 3 Species

○ Roe Deer

Class 4 Species

○ Wild Boar
○ Fallow Deer
○ Sika Deer
● Ringed Seal

Class 5 Species

● Eurasian Wolf

Class 6 Species

○ Red Deer
● Finnish Forest Reindeer

Redistribution for current Species ( maps for Redistribution will come soon )

○ Whitetail Deer ( I think that Whitetail Deer should inhabit the Central Region and Southern Region instead of Central and North )

○ Raccoon Dog ( I think that Raccoon Dog should inhabit the Southern Region as well as the Central Region )

Thank you for taking the time to view this post if you have any feedback let me know and I'll take it into consideration.
I am aware that this map is hardly old but I think this would be a good idea for say 4 or 5 years after Revontuli Coasts release.

[dusk pawn]

Whitetail Deer Redistribution ( I apologise for the weird bits my editing skills are abit poor but as long as you are able to see it clearly then it is clear enough to veiw )

[west sparrow]

I'd love Wild boar and Beavers for Revontuli!

Ringed Seal would be cool but idk how it would be implemented on this map, considering the archipelago is pretty small.

Other than that, i think all species would be great for revontuli!

[dusk pawn]

Hey sorry the timer is long and I was abit busy yes I do think it would be tricky to implement into the game and it is indeed a small coastal area but soon I'll post a map for the distrubution of where Ringed Seal would go

[west sparrow]

No problem! I think that cranes would be a cool addition to revontuli, and possibly a future asian map.

[dusk pawn]

Raccoon Dog Redistribution

Northern Shoveler

Gadwall

Garganey

[dusk pawn]

Long Tailed Duck

Common Eider

Eurasian Woodcock

[chrome raven]

Good choices, and I like the maps you've made.

[molten rover]

I'll admit I'm not a fan of more ducks, but the rest of the list sounds really good. My only ask is to make a few less moose spawns because they seem so oversaturated

[slate thicket]

Okay I just looked into it and Arctic Hare do not live in Finland (see attached image)

Also the Pine Marten is small enough to be a Class 1 animal

I do also recall suggesting Grey Seal in my https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1110018778978320476 but Ringed Seal also works and if a Canadian Arctic Reserve comes out with Ringed Seal backfilling them to Revontouli could certainly work

[rose eagle]

Revontuli is fine as it is, it doesn't need more species and I don't think the AI and rendering support more animals either.

[dusk pawn]

Thank you

[dusk pawn]

I do know that that would be an issue but if they implemented a Mute button for ducks I don't think it'd be too bad but in terms of big game I would like to see some of these

[dusk pawn]

Oh my bad I used a image that seemed to have both Arctic & Mountain Hare on it that's abit disappointing tbh they'd be a cool species to have but I guess we gotta get a Greenlandic or Canadian map then.

Ok so for Pine Marten I do think they'd work better in Class 1 I just wasn't sure as predators are mostly Class 2 -9 so I wasn't sure what the situation would get with them.

Seal hunting seems to be something in Finland so I thought they'd be quite a cool species to add I just wasn't sure how the range for them would work as the map's coastline isn't exactly large at least in my opinion maybe if they added access points to the Islands that are currently unhuntable then that could work.

[dusk pawn]

Do you have a problem with me or something because when I make a map Idea or a idea some of them are disliked by you for really no reason and you don't choose to speak your reasoning I'm fine with some people not liking my post but I would at least like to have an explanation.

Again this is a suggestion plus what would hurt having some new species on the map also yes I do somewhat agree with you I think it's perfect as it is but at some point it could just use some love which is why I suggested that the update could come in like 4-5yrs or maybe even 5-7 years if they wanted to and maybe we could even completely get rid of Whitetail Eeer all together so we can replace them with a species that isn't currently in the game or is is on few maps.

[kindred lotus]

A friend of my dad did seal hunting in the Swedish speaking part of Finland last year so it's definitely a thing

[rose eagle]

I don't have any problem, I don't look at who publishes the ideas, I just look at the topic and make my opinion about it.
You can't expect everyone to agree with your ideas.

[kindred lotus]

Sorry for bad quality, you could theoretically make some of the outer islands exesable with a teleport boat. They would be great for species like eider, scoter anf long tailed duck, I also added a distribution map for those sea dwelling species who I think should be only found at the coast

Regarding upland birds.
Eurasian wood pigeon, Gray Patridge and pheasant could also be added

[dusk pawn]

If you read the message properly it says that I am fine with people not liking my Ideas but I still like a explanation as to why so I can improve in the future

[rose eagle]

The explanation is simple, I think that not all maps need changes, Revontuli has 11 permanent spawn animals and 8 conditional ones, it is the map with the largest number of animals, also one of the most popular, there are no reasons to make more changes or add more things in it.

[signal scroll]

I think a better label for this would be something like “My rendition on Revontuli”.

[molten rover]

Roe deer have 2 maps, caribou have 2 maps, moose have 5 maps, whitetails have 5 maps.

Number of animals has nothing to do with people wanting the map changed, simply that they want to see animals that are under represented elsewhere. Personally I don't grind for GOs, but making all the maps feature a GO species is totally unnecessary and makes for a really boring game if the same kind of animal is everywhere you might go. I really like Revontuli, second to EC for me actually, but I still think it would be way cooler if I could hunt caribou/reindeer or roe deer here. It's not like we hate the map or don't care about the work the devs put into it, it just feels a little same thing different day when there's whitetails and moose just like other maps

[kindred lotus]

You explained it very good

[hollow sage]

Idea is cool but a lot of staple animals of revontuli are missing

[kindred lotus]

I think it was meant to be possible refils

[hollow sage]

Makes sense

[dusk pawn]

In some cases yes and while I think Revontuli Coast would be cool unless EW changed to subspecies and not just Whitetail and changed their appearances and antlers up abit then I could very easily live with it but they haven't so I'm in favor of getting rid of Whitetail and/or Moose so we could have some species that are rarely featured

[dusk pawn]

That is a very good explanation I don't think I could've done that

[oblique relic]

No more backfilling, its a lot of work. New species on new maps should be the focus

[dusk pawn]

For Finnish Forest Reindeer they're only found in Finland so there's no way to add them to another map unless they made another Finnish map which I wouldn't be opposed to but my point being is that there would be some good opportunities to add species to Revontuli Coast if they wished to

[oblique relic]

Yeah, when I say new species I don't mean copying something we already have with just a name change.

[dusk pawn]

Left is a normal Reindeer or the three Reindeer and on the right or the large Bull is a Finnish Forest Reindeer

What is wrong with having Reindeer on another map whether they're a different subspecies or not

There would be nothing wrong with backfilling an animal that is basically the same or the same general animal with some differences

[oblique relic]

It takes significant development time away from truly new content. If they were actually unique, I wouldn't have any issue. But EW won't make them unique if they think we will be happy with a copy paste and text change. Like the bobcat on new england.

[dusk pawn]

Yeah fine but if you read the entire message you would clearly see that I state " I think that this would be a good idea for 4-5yrs in the future " that means that we would still very clearly receive new maps 4 or 5 new maps and then we could consider a backfilling map when Revontuli Coast reaches its 6th or 7th anniversary.

I also state that the map is fine as it is but it also offer opportunities to add some species that are popular in Finland

[molten rover]

I don't think roe deer would even need changes and I'm sure boars wouldn't, they just need to be worked into the spawn list and even that would make a massive difference in how the map felt to play

[dusk pawn]

Just model reworks would be the only thing that really needs changing tbh

[molten rover]

and not much of that, would be nice to see the darker coloration more often though, it's much pretty than the tan on white look for my tastes

[kindred lotus]

Here are some eiders in Finland I just photoed

[kindred lotus]

Here is a more decent pic

[dusk pawn]

Bump

[dusk pawn]

I also think that we could expand the map abit so we could just have some more areas for Waterfowl and potentially seals

[kindred lotus]

Yeah would be good spots for seals, long tailed ducks, eiders, scoters, common merganser, tufted duck, black guillemut, gulls, great cormorant or goldeneye they all would fit I visited a simalar island today and saw many of those