#non grinding Hunters

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forest hedge
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I don't know how you would do it but to the developers of this great game, the last few updates you have done feel like your game is becoming more and more geared toward those that grind... this means that some of us players who don't grind are beginning to feel left behind. I love the game and I love watching YouTubers Play, but non-grinding content creators are beginning to suffer and feel like they're being left behind please do something to change that or you will be losing an entire section of your community

unkempt mesa
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Updated response:
Yup, you're not wrong. I got a real sense of this with the new weapons pack that arrived today and also during the live Q&A on stream. I wasn't expecting any commitments to any of the questions but many of their answers felt unconvincing and uninterested in looking at any of the most popular community asks. Almost as if the QOL requests are an inconvenience and distracting them from their target audience needs, the grinder experience.

Anyway, I still have a little bit of hope. I have invested quite a bit of time and money into the game and hoping to see some big QOL improvements during 2024. But if there is not much change for the casual player and the casual gameplay remains pretty much the same by the end of 2024 then I can see myself permanently moving on to other games that offer a better casual hunting experience, i.e. bow hunting and small game such as rabbits and waterfowl (WOTH). Which will be a shame because I really like COTW and its arcade style system of collecting diamonds. It's just a shame that the hunting system mostly only caters for the grinder species (one bear and a selection of deer) at the moment.

The labrador was a wonderful addition to the game but it has been introduced to a broken waterfowl system. Such a pity.

I like the idea of EW introducing a Player Council but I can see this being made up of mostly grinders and hardcore content creators so I'm not sure how helpful it will be for listening to what the community actually wants, which I believe is mostly casual players.

untold dagger
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I pretty much gave up on this game. Way of the hunter is a great newer game and classic will forever live on as one of if not the best hunting game. Just wish classic still had the support from content creators and starts getting more things added again but I doubt thatll happen.

calm hawk
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It feels like a dead end, none of the guns work like I know they should (lifelong hunter with most of the calibers) The last few updates feel like they just don't care about anyone but the grinders. Jaxy keeps hyping up the updates like it will really fix things and they just aren't making anything better at all
the .45-70 changes? nothing changed but the zero distance.
Pistol packing update? changed one revolver from the base game and one from a DLC
The Moradi .44 is doing what the .45-70 SHOULD be doing, the .30-30 needs to be doing what the .45-70 IS doing, and the .44 should be the same as the revolver with a tiny bit more reach.

Honestly its getting extremely freaking irritating that I've bought 40+ DLCs for this game and its still nothing but a grindfest for one stupidly rare spawn from 4 animals

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gaunt parcel
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yes

calm hawk
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the class changes seem pointless too, but that BB change? what good is it going to do foar anyone not grinding them? nothing will change for most of us

cinder warren
# calm hawk It feels like a dead end, none of the guns work like I know they should (lifelon...

Your not wrong, I understand that they are from a non hunting, non weapon owning background but that’s no excuse, there are thousands of videos online from reputable sources that cater to long distance shooting, countless videos of ammo and it’s expansion upon impact. There is no excuse for the poor implementation of range, accuracy and the impact of the ammo, I understand this is just a game and it’s being catered to those who setup grinds trying to spawn Great Ones but it’s leaving a large portion of the player base behind. I like the content creators but if you’ve watched one grind you’ve watched them all for it’s just a arcade game at that point, jump to tent, run to stand and shoot, jump to tent, run to stand and shoot, there is so much more to this game besides using a 308 and 300 but it’s really starting to fall through the cracks.

calm hawk
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They could get info from actual hunters and guides, Dallas Safari Club, Safari Club International, and National Rifle Association all have programs that teach people every aspect of hunting.

The DLCs keep breaking everything and we keep paying so they don't care, the tiny little group of grinders seem to be the only people they care to listen too.

cinder warren
# calm hawk They could get info from actual hunters and guides, Dallas Safari Club, Safari C...

Well if the majority of streamers are working on grinds and the majority of players are watching their grinds then I can understand why they focus more on helping those who grind. There are some streamers that will do a New Beginning video to show newer players how to play the game where the game’s tutorial is lacking. At 60 I guess it’s either setup grinds and hunt for great ones or roam around the woods looking for something to shoot and hope a new trophy comes along. For some of us we prefer more of a realistic play style vs the arcade style. The game can cater to both style of gamers but they need more of a realistic choice of weapons based on real life hunting, not saying they don’t have the popular calibers in game but the stats of said weapons is far from accurate.

heavy haven
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I wish they did a pop reset on bears

misty star
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I know a solution 👀

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opal cloud
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Completely agree with most of the feedback here. We don’t need another weapon DLC (especially one catered to grinding). Fix the broken waterfowl system that makes every true waterfowl hunter cringe (starting with blowing into the correct side of the call 🙄). Spend time updating a lot of the old models of animals that just don’t look that great anymore. Update some much needed facets of the lodge that are being widely requested. I realize these aren’t changes you can sell in a DLC, but they are things that will help every player enjoy the game more.

Jaxy hyped this update as “game-changing” for how a lot of players play the game. I was kind of shocked when we learned it was just another weapon dlc. And that’s no shade to jaxy or the weapon pack. They are awesome looking guns that will really help grinders especially, but also goose hunters.

forest hedge
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It's beginning to feel like the grinders are the only ones they give a shite about and if anything is going to kill this game it will be that

tepid crown
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I'm a casual player and grinder at times. I enjoy both play styles. I actually enjoy having both playstyles. My brain gets bored if I only use one play style constantly.This weapon pack has guns that doesn't help grinders. The new 300 could help grinders but it's also fun to shoot a boom stick even if you are playing casually. I personally believe the map's and updates have been trying to please both sides.

I can see with bears not getting a pop reset how some think that was geared to grinders. I don't think those thoughts are seeing the broader picture. In the overall picture a pop reset hurts casual players more than grinders. I'm not upset about not getting the pop reset. I have already moved all my male bears to the day time drink zones in just a couple hours on Silver Ridge. I look at it like a mission. It gives me something to work towards in the game. My brain was entertained the whole time because I had a goal of moving my bears to the new drink time.

With all that being said I don't think it's fair to say it's all geared to grinders. While I have played both playstyles I see how EW does try to please both sides.

I also see how grinders have changed the game for the great ones and rares. When I first started playing rares and great ones was easier to achieve. That has been made harder to achieve because of grinding. It is extremely hard to get a great one for causal players unless they are lucky. It can be done because I have spawned great ones in less than 300 kills on one map but I had a Moose great one take 10000 kills on a map one time. If you are a casual player and you get on a 10000 kill map it might take a year or 2 before it happens.

That's my thoughts on the subject. Hopefully I didn't offend anyone. Just didn't think it was fair to say everything is for grinding. I think grinding has changed the game and EW is doing their best to please both sides because that's what I've seen playing both playstyles.

unkempt mesa
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10000 kills for one species on a map is pretty hardcore grinding, iyam. Not against grinding, fully support it but that's not what this thread is about.

Asks for casual gameplay improvements have been ignored for the most of part of the last year and I heard nothing yesterday that convinced me any of those requests were going to be addressed this year (2024).

robust lark
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They see grinders buy DLC - that's all that matters to them. I don't think they care for other players at all.

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eager terrace
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Oh, I completely misinterpreted the goal of this post. I see what you mean though I don’t believe Call of the Wild is dead. Hunting games are fairly niche, there isn’t really many other places to go.

robust lark
eager terrace
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I love Way of the Hunter, I prefer it over CotW personally and honestly haven’t played CotW much since it came out. The daily player numbers do seem dismally small when compared to CotW though so I doubt many people prefer its gameplay and have made the jump as you and I have.

robust lark
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I'd imagine it's mainly down to the price and word of mouth - I'm sure the playerbase will trend torwards it for various reasons. Also people have made progression in this game and it's what they know - two things that will prevent people switching, even if for the better.

forest hedge
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The point of this post was to try and get home to the developers that there is more than grinders to look after I'm not against grinding but I don't actively do if I have a never will and I wish the developers would do a little bit more than they are to cater to people who play the way I play I know I'm not the only one

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eager terrace
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I see what you mean and completely agree, I think that was one of my main reasons for jumping over to Way of the Hunter (though I can still play both games if I wish). I think the only edge CotW has which is probably the main draw for players is the amount of content after 7 years of continual development which WotH comparatively lacks. I think I’m just worried the WotH devs will end development if they don’t see similar player numbers when compared to their competitors, though this is probably an irrational fear.

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forest hedge
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@eager terrace could probably find a way to contact them and see what they have planned for the long-term future of the game

eager terrace
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lol that would ease my fears, I’m sure after 7 years of development at the pace they are going WotH could have as much content as CotW. For now I can’t see much changing sadly.

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forest hedge
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@eager terrace that being said ew has already released the perfect game for non-grinding Hunters

eager terrace
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I definitely still play Classic, it’s pretty hard to beat.

forest hedge
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How much experience do you have

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forest hedge
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If you have a PC check the minimum system requirements for classic you may be able to run it and I'm sure digger and I would help you

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Has to be a Windows though classic won't run on a Mac

unkempt mesa
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I only have a laptop but I use it for work. Thanks though. I think I have my hands full enough with COTW and WOTH.

forest hedge
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You should really try classic once you start I don't think you're gonna want to go back to Call of the Wild

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The only reason I would go back to Call of the Wild is to play with friends who don't play way of the Hunter but I've been looking for a realistic hunting game tests my patience levels I found classic years ago but have only been able to play for 3 days and I've already logged over 11 hours physical hunting time only punching six tags in that time

unkempt mesa
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Don't encourage me. LOL

forest hedge
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I'm serious fry it the graphics are brilliant especially for a game that was released in 2009

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forest hedge
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@unkempt mesa And it requires a shite load of patience if you are not a real life Hunter and want to experience what it's like play Classic if you are and you want to still feel like you're out there even during non-hunting season play Classic

twin cairn
forest hedge
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I have sunk over 11 hours into classic in the last three days and I'm not mad that I've only punched six tags I would be mad if I only punched six tags in 11 hours playing Call of the Wild but classic gives me the perfect feel I've been looking for a realistic hunting game and after having had an account for years I can safely save it I think I'm hooked on classic because it provides me everything I was looking for

twin cairn
forest hedge
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Dude if you looked at the number of confirmed kills I've got and compared that to the number of hunting trips I've been on you would probably call me a shite Hunter

twin cairn
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Same lol. I spent a half hour on bushrangers and found a group of goats and a roo and that was it

forest hedge
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91 minutes on the same Reserve you're talking about I only punched one tag and it was a feral goat

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I was hunting with a guy who wanted me to go against my own nature I respect him and appreciate what he was trying to get me to do but I've got Asperger's syndrome when I get set in my ways I'm not going to change things very easily I was looking for a rifle that looks like a Remington 700 and some military style camouflage because I'm a Defense kid my father was in the army 32 years. The rifle that reminds me the most of a Remington 700 which would be my hunting rifle of choice is classics 243 so I think that's what I'm going to stick to despite its limited range of species it is permitted for

idle maple
# forest hedge 91 minutes on the same Reserve you're talking about I only punched one tag and i...

It is actually full of animals, there are 3500 of them, but you must follow and understand the rules to find them. First, have exploited the map without leaving any dark areas unrevealed so that all the Spawn points are activated. Second, understand how the need zones work, they eat in the Grasslands (green areas visible on the map) they sleep in the Forests (darker areas visible on the map) and they move from one area to another when the time indicated on them ends. Third, know the home ranges, know which area each species lives in on the map and know if there are Predators within that same area that increase the movement time of the animals. Fourth, know the Difficulties and senses of each animal to know how far we can approach them or from what distance they can detect us when we move around the map. Fifth, combine all this, once done, simply opening the map you will know which area to go through to always find the animals.

It's like hunting in real life or at least that's what I do in every new hunting ground I go to in real life, it's very well recreated however it requires this whole learning curve, that's why new players only choose lakes and grinding...

forest hedge
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Oh God no when I said 91 minutes on the same Reserve I was talking about classic I can punch a whole lot more than one tag in 91 minutes in Call of the Wild and that's without grinding

idle maple
forest hedge
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Mistakes can be made and forgiven

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The one mistake I have not made in classic yet is butchering a shot I have accidentally discharged my weapon 14 times due to initially using a touchpad Mouse but since transitioning over to a corded mouse I have not missed a shot

jade kiln
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Agreed

calm hawk
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I get it, they need to sell DLCs to keep the lights on and people paid, but they are ignoring players who just have the base game. Scoring 2.0 broke most of the base game guns and they just keep ignoring it. I've bought 40+ DLC for this game but older dlc and base game weapons are so weak already that they just don't warrant using. Penetration is also massively unralistic and disappointing for the older stuff. I even posted about this with the new Jernberg and the base game Coachmate, Jaxy says the caliber makes the difference but it really doesn't.

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forest hedge
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Is there anyone here that wants to join me for a hunt on the hunter classic

gaunt parcel
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