Ultimate Backfill Idea (In My Opinion)

[placid current]

This Will Only Include Species That Are Currently In Game, As Historically EW Has Added Very Few New Species To Old Maps.
The List Is As Follows:

Layton Lakes:
Mountain Goat
Bighorn Sheep

Hirschfelden:
Brown Hare
Raccoon Dog
Common Raccoon
Chamois
Mouflon
Sika Deer

Medved-Taiga:
None

Vurhonga Savanna:
Fallow Deer (To Replace Lesser Kudu)

Parque Fernando:
Brown Hare
Feral Goat
Mouflon
Fallow Deer
Wild Boar

Yukon Valley:
Black Bear

Cuatro Colinas:
Feral Goat
Chamois
Fallow Deer

SRP:
Bobwhite Quail
Ring-Necked Pheasant
Coyote
Whitetail Deer
Moose

Te Awaroa:
Ring-Necked Pheasant
Canada Goose
Whitetail Deer
Javan Rusa Deer
Sambar Deer
Rocky Mountain Elk

Rancho Del Arroyo:
Plains Bison

Mississippi Acres:
Mallard
Cinnamon Teal
Goldeneye
Coyote
Bobcat

Revontuli Coast:
Roe Deer
Fallow Deer (Uncommon)
(Finnish Forest) Reindeer
Wild Boar

New England Mountains:
None

Emerald Coast:
European Rabbit
Water Buffalo
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There Are Several Species I Did Not Include On This List As They Cant Be Hunted In These Locations, Or They’re Simply Not Found There. If There’s Any Other Species That I Missed, Please Tell Me, As I’d Like To See A Bunch Of Variety On The Older Maps.

[pale bone]

Solid list except for the kudu replacement and I think Yukon should also get Rosie and blacktail

[novel cape]

I agree

[placid current]

Yukon Is Based On Inland Alaska, Specifically (From What I Have Seen), Game Management Units 20 And 21. Blacktail And Roosies Can’t Be Found In These Areas.

[subtle panther]

Mountain Lion, Raccoon, Red Fox and Pheasant could work for Layton. And Mountain Goat, Willow Ptarmigan and Rock Ptarmigan could also work for Yukon

[lone current]

You know what's crazy? Mountain Goats were introduced to Colorado in 1947, they weren't found there before then at all.

Also, I agree that lesser kudu could be replaced but it NEEDS to be impala if anything. or they could just add impala. Its natural and they are everywhere aside from being the whitetail/roe deer equivalent of Africa

[placid current]

I Refuse To Put Mountain Lions On Layton Because They Spook Everything For Zero Reason. Yeah, They Should Spook Deer And Small Game, But They Shouldn’t Spook Bears, Moose, Water Buffalo, Etc.

An Elk Makes Sense, But Most Of The Time They’ll Hold Their Ground Against A Cougar And Won’t Run. Same Goes For Moose. Bears Definitely Shouldn’t Be Spooked By Them.

[placid current]

Yeah, I Was Just Going With Currently In Game Animals, So I Put Fallow Since They’re Found In Feral Populations Throughout South Africa. Impala Would Be A Far Better Replacement.

[stuck snow]

I hate that species scare other species its annoying and just ruins hunts

[subtle panther]

That makes sense. It's annoying that they spook big game, especially bear. Maybe if they changed their behavior in the future that could change. It would be pretty cool to have them on more maps but if they decide to just keep them on Silver Ridge then I'm totally fine with that too

[placid current]

If They Change Their Behavior, Then I’d Like To See Them On Layton. Until They Change The Horrific Amount Of Spooked Animals They Cause, They’re My Least Favorite Animal.

[lone current]

Impalas would be a really quick flip of the lesser kudu model, just change the coloration and horns, split the spawns a bit so impala take over a few kudu and springboks need zones each. MAKE THE DAMN BUFFALO NOT CHARGE ME FOR THINKING ABOUT HUNTING WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THEM AND SILENCE THOSE D*MN DUCKS

Then vurhonga will be perfect for me

[pale bone]

I don’t think EW would remove a species. Especially one that’s been on the map for years

[placid leaf]

I may disagree with this statement kind sir. Cougars/mtn lions do kill moose, elk, Bison. Them spooking bears though, that isn't accurate.

I do like this thread. Some great backfill suggestions. Although I doubt we would see Bison in Mexico due to them being critically endangered in that region

[placid current]

Elk Definitely Makes Sense Since A Predator Of Any Kind Will Incite Panic, Moose Less So Because They’re Aggressive And Will Generally Stand Their Ground Against Predators Other Than Wolves. Bison Have Been Killed By Cougars, But They’d Go Aggressive On A Cougar Before They’d Flee. But Bears Are Absolutely My Biggest Issue Because They’ll Hold Their Ground Or Simply Leave The Cat Alone.

[placid current]

While Wild Bison In Mexico Are Critically Endangered, There Are A Few Ranches With Herds Of Bison That Are Hunted. Considering That Rancho Is More Of A Hunting Ranch Than An Actual Reserve I Feel It Would Fit To Have Them As An Uncommon Species (Similar To Bears On Mississippi Acres).

[placid leaf]

Cougars and wolves killing moose are very much a thing here in BC is really all I'm saying. So as annoying as it may be for them to spook animals I think the only one that really needs a look at is how they interact with the bears. Not meaning to go off topic of your thread lol

[placid current]

That’s Definitely The Animal I Care Most About Being Fixed. The Bears Spooking Is Just Annoying. I Can Handle Herbivores Spooking To Predators Because Thats What Happens, But Another Predator Really Shouldn’t.

[next garden]

Perfect list except bobwhite for te awaroa and wild hogs for new england

[placid current]

1. There Are Bobwhite In New Zealand, But They’re Quite Uncommon, And I Feel Like They Have Enough Species With The 6 I Put On Here.

2. As Far As I Know, There Aren’t Any Wild Hogs In Maine, So They Wouldn’t Fit The Map Very Well.

[spice yew]

It would be amazing to see Himalayan Tahr in te awaroa

[placid current]

Agreed. I Wanna See Tahr On Te As Much As Anyone Else, But I’m Still Not Sure If It’s Possible Since I Don’t Know Anything About Game Development. The Reason Stated For Not Having Tahr On Release Is That They Couldn’t Render The Fur (Or Something Like That, I Know It Was About The Fur).

[round parrot]

nice list but maybe mouflon to hirsch ?

[fierce fox]

I think NEM could really benefit from Canada Goose.

[spice yew]

Yeah the game has come a long way since te released. If woth could do it you would think with a little work ew could maybe get something to look like a tahr but who know I don't know anything about making a game either

[subtle panther]

For Hirsch woodcock can be backfilled as there are woodcocks where Hirsch is

[wise field]

I think he was listing species we already have in game.

I’d be keen for mouflon on Hirschfelden, they would be great in Rotwold and Rinderland. Hirsch is pretty well rounded now but mouflon would be the cherry on top for my favourite map.

If we had all the species Mr. Schrader listed on Hirsch I doubt I’d play many of the newer maps honestly.

[next garden]

Woodcock could be backfilled to a whole lot of reserves, NEM, Mississippi, rev, Hirsch and Quatro

[split estuary]

What’s your thought process for knocking off lesser kudu for fallow, with so many maps already existing with fallow?

[pale bone]

Cause it’s not accurate

[regal nebula]

Whats a brown hare?

[pale bone]

Probably euro

[placid current]

That Lesser Kudu Don’t Live In South Africa, Or Southern Africa In General. The Closest Herd To South Africa Is In Central Tanzania.

[placid current]

European Hare, But They’re Called Brown Hares Throughout A Lot Of Mainland Europe.

[regal nebula]

Ok

[fierce fox]

I don’t see why it would be a problem. Fallow being on so many maps just goes to show how widespread (and often time’s damaging in places they aren’t supposed to be).

[regal nebula]

You do realize vurhonga is a game park

[cunning arrow]

Thoughts on aoudad to rancho

[fierce fox]

And it’s a completely new environment to hunt them in.

[placid current]

Vurhonga Is An Island Set In Southern Africa (Likely South Africa), And There’s No Indication Of Animals Being Introduced There, Therefore Lesser Kudu, Known From Northeast Africa Alone, Shouldn’t Be There.

[placid current]

I Don’t Have An Issue With It, Because Rancho Is Specifically Labeled As A Game Ranch In The Story.

[regal nebula]

An island exactly where a herd of fallow will be

[cunning arrow]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1189384430054297790 more reasons why I think they should be there

[placid current]

There Are Absolutely Tons Of Feral Fallow Deer That Escaped Game Ranches Throughout South Africa And Now Inhabit A Lot Of The Bushlands. It Wouldn’t Be Surprising If They Made It There.

[fierce fox]

Fallow will live anywhere.

[mild gust]

Importing same species from other maps? Nothing interests me.

[regal nebula]

So they swam and @fierce fox same with cats and rabbits and feral dogs

[placid current]

Or They Crossed The Border Of The Map In The South, Where The River Is Dry.

[regal nebula]

Or do the story and find out its a game reserve

[fierce fox]

Why are we bringing up Feral cats and dogs…??? (FYI I’m 100% pro dog and cat culling).

[placid current]

Nothing In Vurhongas Story Says That It’s A Game Reserve Or Ranch. It’s Said To Be A Preserve On Many Occasions, But Thats Different Than A Game Reserve. The Land Was Donated To Create Said Preserve.

[regal nebula]

A fenced preserve where poachers killed the rhino and giraffes and elephants

[placid current]

Except That It’s Not Fenced, Nor Did All Of The Giraffes Go Extinct, As It Seems Likely They Simply Never Inhabited The Area.

[regal nebula]

The second mission

[placid current]

Grandfather Says “Elephants And All But One Rhino”. No Mention Of Giraffes.

[regal nebula]

You literally haven’t done the mission where we were asked to take down the poacher traps

[placid current]

I’ve Finished Vurhongas Story, And I Remember That Mission Particularly Well. I Know That There Is No Mention Of Giraffes At All.

[regal nebula]

The two different missions where we were asked to take down poachers traps

Also its a preserve in a game and in a continent where most irl reserves are game preserves with non native species

[placid current]

Yeah, The One At That Pill Shaped Lake, Mission #2. There’s Still No Mention Of Giraffes. Still, That Has Nothing To Do With Me Getting Rid Of Lesser Kudu Because It’s Not Accurate To Have Them On The Map. Fallow Makes Sense Because They’re At Least Found In The Area, Lesser Kudu Aren’t Found Within 1000 KM Of The General Area Where Vurhonga Would Be Set

[fierce fox]

Even if Vurhonga was fenced why would that matter at all, poachers go to extreme lengths.

[regal nebula]

Theres a thing called te awaroa where none of the species are native

[placid current]

Because That’s New Zealand, Where All Hunting Is Of Non Native Species. Thats A Completely Different Situation.

[regal nebula]

And its africa where many game parks have non native species to hunt

[next garden]

If y'all wanna cull some feral sheep, goats and cats make sure to visit the post of Isla de penotas!
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1194917327699976242

[placid current]

Maybe 1 Or 2, Most Of Those Being Either Pheasants Or Fallow Deer. They Don’t Introduce Animals From Other Parts Of Africa There. Plus, There’s No Reason To Have Lesser Kudu If There Could Be Greater Kudu Or Fallow Deer (Which Are Actually Found In South Africa).

[regal nebula]

South african parks have aoudad native to north africa

Look at hunter hills safari

[placid current]

But Why Lesser Kudu? There’s Absolutely No Reason For Them To Be There, Even If Vurhonga Is A Game Park (Which It’s Not).

[regal nebula]

Preservation of species and its the devs choice

[next garden]

I need to say I agree with me Schrader I'd would keep 2-3 zones in a small area for people who wanna get trophy's of them but that's it maybe 600m of coastline the rest would be filled by Nyala or greater kudu!

[regal nebula]

Are there greater kudu and nyala on vurhonga? No it was the developers choice not ours what they put on the map and if your complaining about realism go outside or realize this game is far from real especially with the grinding aspect of the game

[next garden]

Its called a po you can find would want and nobody has a prob with that

[regal nebula]

Your sentence does not grammar or make sense at all

[next garden]

OK I'm sorry it's been a long evening il try again.
It's called a personal opinion, you can find what you want and nobody has a problem with that but please let other people have they're opinions!

[regal nebula]

Exactly it was the devs opinion on putting lesser kudu on the map

[lone current]

this is just a game, it has no effect on conservation (unless they make a donation i guess) so it was entirely dev choice to throw in an ainmal that a very large number of people had no idea existed rather than choose a more familiar species that is a deeply traditional and beloved part of African hunting that is both native to the area and commonly hunted by both native tribes and wandering hunters.

Like, weird choice to have some of the most popular animals in African hunting on the map but choose an animal extremely similar to the most commonly hunted antelope in all of Africa

[next garden]

Other people are allowed to have opinions too also may be after a bit of feedback the devs don't like lesser kudu that much after all

[split estuary]

This thread is hilarious 😂 y’all fighting about giraffes. All I’m saying is they’re very unlikely to remove a species from a map (as jaxy has said) especially one that doesnt exist on any other map and especially to replace it with one that’s on a pile of maps. Maybe it’s not 100% accurate, but its also not inconceivable that they were “introduced” to the reserve. Its a game lol. And I am of the opinion that EW should focus more of its efforts on giving us a brand new lineup of african animals (esp greater kudu!) on a new reserve than replacing animals on an old reserve.

But as stated by @next garden this thread is your thoughts and opinions which is 100% cool for you to share!

[lone current]

I don't care if they remove them or what ever they decide to do, I just want impalas in game

[mild gust]

Fewer or minimum repeated species and more local species for each map. Why have many maps with numerous repeated species? With this, it would be sufficient to hunt all the species in just one map. Diversity is fascinating and enjoyable. It's just my opinion. The New England map was very disappointing.

[south niche]

Has someone said Ptarmigan for Yukon?

[pale bone]

I’m not sure about here but I’ve seen it a few times