Rocky Mountain Elk Remodel?

[ancient coyote]

I Am An Avid Elk Hunter And Researcher. I Have Seen Plenty Of Large Elk And If You Ask Me, The Models And Antlers Are Sub Par At Best. The Cows Look Good, But The Light Grey Fur Type Is A Weird Choice Of Fur.

I Think Something Similar To A Blonde Fur Like In Classic Or Maybe A Grey Fur Type For A More Winter Like Fur Type For Them.

[flint oyster]

There’s much worse models to do before RME. Besides, they look good enough and they’re one of my favorite species tbh

[brisk hazel]

No,definitely top 3 worst imo.

[ancient coyote]

Remodel Them Along With Roosevelt Elk. The Rockies Look Really Bad.

[flint oyster]

What don’t y’all like? There’s one or two furs that look kinda inaccurate but like I said, there’s much worse looking animals (lions, grizzly, bighorn, and jackal for example)

[brisk hazel]

It’s THE MOST COMMON fur that’s inaccurate.It’s also the fact they are built like pugs.Lions aren’t nearly as bad.

[flint oyster]

Lion manes still don’t look good outside the lodge imo

And which fur are you referring to as the most common? Light brown?

[brisk hazel]

I don’t remember,because I don’t kill any Rockies that look like that,same applies for Rosies if I remember correctly.

[flint oyster]

This one? If this is it I don’t think it looks that bad

[brisk hazel]

Yeah,and that stupid orange one.

[brisk hazel]

That looks nothing like a Rocky elk.

[flint oyster]

I disagree on the light brown. The brown one looks a little bad but the light brown looks fine imo

[ancient coyote]

Light Grey Is Inaccurate. Elk Like That Are Leucistic, Not A Common Thing.

[ancient coyote]

None Of The Furs Are Accurate, And The Antlers Are Way Too Long And Slender.

[brisk hazel]

Yeah,Elk antlers are thick.

[dull hinge]

The antlers could be thicker for sure. They can get fairly long sometimes though.

[brisk hazel]

I need a webbed elk rack.

[ancient coyote]

Exactly. Elk Are My Entire Life (They’re The Only Animal That I Am Currently Studying) And I Just Hope That They Eventually Get The Attention They Deserve In This Game.

[noble escarp]

And here too

[brisk hazel]

I’m sorry but is that not an Elk???

[noble escarp]

I refer to person, not animal.

[brisk hazel]

It’s called an emoji.

This post is about elk,it’s an elk emoji. It’s not weird.

[ancient coyote]

I No Joke Forgot I Made This Suggestion But…LETS GET IT TO 100

[astral edge]

Antlers for them are so unrealistic

[ancient coyote]

Agreed. They Are Far To Thin.

[scenic kraken]

Yeah currently their racks are just way too thin, especially on the main beams.

[astral edge]

Even in the photo on this thread the elk with the smaller rack for length has thicker antlers then the one with the longer rack which really bugs me out.

[ancient coyote]

That Elk Is What I Think Should Be Diamond Sized. He’s An 8x8, Which Is About As Large As They Get.

[astral edge]

Yeah to be honest the other one looks absurdly big for being in the wild,kinda looks like if they were raised on a farm.

[ancient coyote]

Yeah, I Think The Roosies Diamond Racks Are Fairly Accurate. A Large RM Elk Bull Will Have Antlers That Sweep Back To Around 2/3 Down Their Spine. Normally It’s Not Larger Than That.

[astral edge]

Yeah I’m not an expert at elk at all but even from what I could see the Rocky Mountain elk in cotw are pretty inaccurate.

[ancient coyote]

I Study Elk For A Living So It Understandably Frustrates Me How Inaccurate They Are.

[astral edge]

Elk live thousands of miles away from me the closest I have ever seen to an elk in real life is a red deer or moose so it probably annoys you more than me but still I find it really weird the way their racks are.

[ancient coyote]

Yeah, Understandable.

[foggy granite]

These are some of my decent one in TheHunter: Classic, They look 5x better than cotw

[oblique mauve]

Gawddaawmn

[foggy granite]

Those ones aren't even that big lmao

405+ is big those are 390s

[hoary gazelle]

Look at how way of the hunter did their elk

Granted, im pretty sure the lighter elk is a roosevelt, not a Rocky mountain. But THIS is how you do an elk

And heres wolfquests elk

This is how you make an elk!

Legitimately the only reason why i dont have a diamond elk yet in cotw is because i can just hunt them in wolfquest or way of the hunter instead. The elk in both of these games are BEAUTIFUL. I'd love to satisfy my elk hunting itch in cotw but the elk ingame just dont do it for me!

[scenic kraken]

Isn't it crazy that an Indie wolf simulator game created in Unity has better looking animals than COTW, a hunting game with an actual company behind it that were able to make the game in its own engine? That's crazy man.

Granted, I think WolfQuest did purchase most of their animal models from a separate company that they partnered with, but it's still crazy to me how much of difference there is.

[fresh thicket]

Found this weirdo, failed unicorn

[grizzled pumice]

The Rocky Mountain elks antlers need to be changed to a different color to more ivory white to light brown instead of the milk chocolate brown color as they are right now.

[ancient coyote]

Yep, and they need to be closer to the Roosies in frame shape. Obviously they’d be larger with slight differences, but irl a large Rocky Bull does not look like the dimes in game.

[dreamy oyster]

just wanted to throw this in here. non typical record elk in virginia. absolute beauty

[dull hinge]

Congrats! It needs to be higher lol. It's really needed. They do look better than Roosevelt Elk currently but both are needed.

[scenic kraken]

can't believe this one doesn't have more upvotes

[dull hinge]

It's probably because the Roosevelt Elk looks worse and is needed more.

i want both to be remodeled, but Roosevelt and Blacktail is needed more currently than the Rocky Mountain Elk

[nocturne pendant]

Agreed. 8yrs for Roosevelts & 6yrs for Rocky Mountain Elk. I believe its also been 8yrs for Coyotes as well. It doesn't make sense pheasant were updated before Elk; same with Tahr. Esp. since EW has always focused on G1 rework updates on Game from the 2 base Game reserves (Layton & Hirsch). I'm very disappointed Elk wasn't even a vote option in the polls for Racks or Furs!

[dull hinge]

I'm personally hoping they weren't on that board because they are on the next map. They are way over due and would breathe some fresh air into the game with a rework. They deserve the love Red Deer has had over the years.

[nocturne pendant]

100% agree. Though when they do an elk G1 I really hope tyey keep them authentic like they did with Moose, Whitetail, & Fallow. I dont want fantasy themed Elk. The G1 Red Deer followed the lines of the great stag legend which was cool, but I have no interedted in the other G1's bc they took a very strange direction I just cant come to like. Dont get me wrong they are neat but its something I'd see in a semi fantasy/sci-fi game over a hunting game tyat claims to be authentic. I will also say some of the variants are natural.

[dull hinge]

Is this natural enough for you. I mean they can have these colors. Ignore the antlers. They are bad. I'm just talking fur type.

[nocturne pendant]

I can live with this 💯% So long as they're not space, element, material, etc. Themed!!! 😮‍💨 I'll add 60% of game need fur texture alot of them look like there bare skinned as well.

[cinder stump]

The famous Spider Bull for example

[nocturne pendant]

Rack wise theirs 4-5 good references for the G1 variants. On the base remodels they need more fur texture, antler mass, & they need to fix the call audio from cows to bulls. I'd really like to see all game get size scaled as well. It looks too artificial with every species the same size between male & female as well as huntable game levels 1-9. Its an easy fix just adjust size to 5 models (for species with lvl 1-9) & 3-4 sizes with lower lvls like whitetail for ex. that I believe has a max lvl of 4 or 5? Another alternative is body mass & muscle tones to match the games size/weight & lvl.

Again I love reserves and gear packs but I strongly feel current Game & Equipment need TLC more to polish the game to match with reserve details. Huntable Game & our Equipment is literally 2/3rd's of gameplay.

[cinder stump]

Why does Red Stag have levels 6 to 9, and Wapiti does not?

Red Stag and Black Bear have many levels!

[nocturne pendant]

Again Elk were overlooked over Moose & Red Deer. Moose is prime in Canada, Red Deer in EU, Cape in Africa. Dont get me wrong Whitetail & Mule deer are popular in the US but Elk is our Prime. Bighorn & Mtn Goats would fall 4th bc not many get the oppertunity with draws.

[cinder stump]

I understand you. Lol I agree

[cinder stump]

Like Black Bear and Wild Boar

[nocturne pendant]

Black Bear are also prime game as well. However in this case I think the G1's might play a part in the lvls here?

Its a guess since they have G1 weights jacked 😅

[cinder stump]

Thinking if Wapiti had the many levels, it would be great. Many distinct antler models for each level, from 6t to 9; big non-typical Wapiti and fewer typical mass wapiti.

[nocturne pendant]

That would be ideal for both elk species.

I'm not a G1 seeker like the grinders are, my issue is the models/fur (type/markings). Its the 1 thing that steers me away from them except the natural models. I often will pass them up in multiplayer bc they dont appeal to me at all. Though I've seen the Black Bear more than any of them surprisingly.

But I will admit this every G1 release the species gets reworked & reset so even if I dont see a G1 the base game models often look & act way better than the original.

[cinder stump]

Typical Wapiti with a total of 12 antler points (6x6) is called a ''royal" bull; one with 14 points (7X7) is an "imperial" and one with 16 points (8X8) is a “monarch”.
I put down this note by the curiosity

[nocturne pendant]

that'd be nice to see.

[cinder stump]

I prefer a perfect and great diamond species model than the G1 skulled-face 💀 model.

[cinder stump]

Rocky Mountain Wapiti commonly has mass antlers than Roosevelt Waliti, but Roosevelt Wapiti is a bit more bigger than them.

[cinder stump]

In the COTW game, I see animals running away jogging, not running like irl.

[nocturne pendant]

so many key points when it should've been 1 of the key focus animals in-game. I hope they concider Frontier Park to bring Elk back esp. since they are a key focus to the narrative.

[cinder stump]

Te Awaroa has the good opportunity to have Wapiti because of the important management is occurring in New Zealand irl (culling females, hybridization with red stag) for the new missions.

[nocturne pendant]

Idt they'll add more stories to existing reserves, just backfills unless they add a new location 😔

Thats 1 reason why I'm pushing for Frontier Park. Yea its a US reserve but I put alot into its foundations to not only make it unique but to allow new species to be added with potential for them to backfill other locations. The only crowd I didn't appeal to is waterfowl hunters but instead added Sandhill Cranes. It has lots of needed new features to refresh gameplay from, theme, plot, huntable game, new range, equipment, weapons, & exclusive huntable game mechanics. Not to mention the character arcs & a new lodge feature. It can be done & I know EW has the capacity to do it justice. With the game list if Wolves & Elk get G1's FP would have 6 G1's. Though if EW takes up my Predator Update it could leave room for 21 species over the 20, I suggested meaning Bison could get added with small populations in the Central & NE biomes.

[nocturne pendant]

But the core focus for FP is Elk, Wolves, Upland Birds, & Furbearer species.

[cinder stump]

Yes, please

Look at Red Stag, good model. Why don't they remodel Roosevelt Elk and RM Elk?

[ancient coyote]

Just looking at this makes me realize that the Roosies somehow look more like Elk than the Rockies. The rack, the head shape, the neck, everything looks better than the Rockies. Both really need remodels, but it’s clear who needs it more.

[cinder stump]

Speaking of model quality, I like Roosevelt Elk over RM Elk.

[ancient coyote]

Both of them need a rework, but the Rockies genuinely need one more. The Roosies have good looking larger racks, with the smaller racks looking a bit bad. Rockies in general look bad.

[cinder stump]

RM Elk drinks with Black Bear in SRP! Why? It is disturbing. 😫

[ancient coyote]

The Rockies antlers don’t even look like how Rockies do irl lmao

[cinder stump]

It seems the body is smaller because of the oversized antlers.

A bull in profile displays high standard antlers with good proportions.

[ancient coyote]

That’s what a level 4 Rocky would look like with a good rack and model.

Something like this is what I’d imagine a huge lvl 5 could look like in game. Plenty of mass to the antlers, plenty of main beam length but not an excessive amount of curve like in game.

[cinder stump]

Yes. I am speaking of The proportion between the antlers and the body being unequal in COTW. I know very well the bullies of Level 5.

[alpine bluff]

I think the racks themselves are pretty nice on the meese, I just don't like the fur coats, that's why whitetail is my favorite g1

[cinder stump]

Rocky Mountain Elk Remodel? Yes, please! And Roosevelt Elk also, please.
I love Manitoba Elk models because I enjoy hunting them.

[brisk sky]

Yup, Manitoban Elk now set the standard. Time to remodel both Rocky Mountain and Roosevelt Elk.

[dreamy oyster]

Manitoban elk really proved EW learned how to model elk properly.. Now the other 2 need their remodel!

[brisk sky]

100% this. Roosies also need more stickers and such. Their antlers tend to crown more than the other NA Elk subspecies.

[scenic kraken]

Way of The Hunter has much better models for both Rocky Mountain Elk and Roosevelt Elk than COTW currently has. The antlers look way more realistic and detailed too.

[whole silo]

Elk

[brisk sky]

I will say that the Manitoban Elk in CotW are the best looking virtual elk in any hunting game, though.

[scenic kraken]

I'd say they're about on-par with the two elk subspecies in WOTH, which both look really good for an elk in the fall. The Manitoban Elk in COTW has a fluffier winter coat, so that makes it a little bit difficult to compare it with elk models in other games that depict an elk in late summer or fall. Although if we're just talking about antlers, then I'd have to agree, the Manitoban Elk in COTW have really good-looking antlers, probably the best elk antlers I've seen in any hunting game.