Gray Wolf Retexture/Remodel

[median halo]

I think I would definitely play yukon more if wolves looked more like their realistic form, usually they arent just all grey and sorta have a tanish color near the legs/belly and just has more fluff/fur than the one’s in game. In my opinion the one’s in game look a bit funny but feel free to disagree!

[dusk wind]

I agree they should remodel

[wraith mica]

Old one could be remodeled and used as a rare fur-type

[median halo]

that wasnt the suggestion 🗿

[wraith mica]

Yeah,But I’m adding on to your suggestion with an another suggestion,It’s how a conversation works🗿

[median halo]

why would you make a suggestion on a suggestion at that point just make ur own💀

[turbid drift]

@median halo to be fair the rules do say if you have anything to add to a suggestion feel free to add so there isn't a ton of suggestions on the same thing.

[median halo]

alr

[glad hornet]

I think it can be awesome adding different common fur variation too

[median halo]

yea, they just need to update the wolf in general

[pseudo plinth]

Hey @median halo ,

Thank you for letting us know about what you would enjoy seeing in the game. Our team is constantly working on new content and they are open to ideas!

We will take this feedback into consideration.

If you have any other ideas on what you'd like to see in the game, please feel free to share them with us!

[dark imp]

Agree, gray wolves along with iberian wolves should definitely get remodel

[median halo]

Alright sounds good

[clever pelican]

wild boar needs re modeling too

[wraith mica]

I’d hunt them alot more if they didn’t look rabid

[iron topaz]

I absolutely agree with this suggestion! Wolves have such interesting markings, such as their black-tipped tails, eye markings, saddle/cape marking behind the shoulder, etc.

I'll post some current in-game variation alongside real-world wolves for ideas on how to make the variations look better.

The standard, classic grey is already pretty great as is.
However I'd add more white around the cheeks as well as a black stripe behind the eye. Perhaps some black or darker grey around some of the white markings on the chest too? As well as the inclusion of the black-and-white "saddle" marking seen at the shoulder of most wolves, circled in red.

Dark Grey - I would actually vouch for removing this coat alltogether and replacing it with a brown. Brown and grey would be the common coats, as they serve as the "typical" grey wolf.

Red Brown - Would serve as an uncommon coat alongside the upcoming Eggwhite, however could be renamed to Blonde as to avoid confusion with the common brown.
Last photo is a blonde COYOTE, but can still aid in marking reference.

Eggwhite - Eggwhite could probably be the hardest of the bunch to describe and create. Can be a lean into the common grey but also a lean into albino? Essentially being a very light grey/blonde wolf. Could be renamed to Pale.

Melanistic - Everyone's favorite black wolf, now with a little more color! This has potential to be one of the most GORGEOUS animals in the game and just being solid black dosen't really sell that.

Albino - Just a white wolf with a pink nose as opposed to black, the most simple of the bunch. Refrain from giving it markings, so it can easily be distinguished from Eggwhite.

[iron topaz]

As these pictures are of brown wolves and were mostly used to highlight marking references for both Grey and Brown, I'll post some proper grey-coated wolves.

The game's Iberian wolf model already does show off some of the more complex markings seen in wolves, however even the Iberian wolves could use more white around the face, particularly the cheeks (tho the 2nd image does do fine in that regard)

[iron topaz]

This could be a good eggwhite reference as well even tho its just comparing a wolf to a husky

[iron topaz]

If there is some sort of "base" available I could draw out what recolors I'd like to see for the game

[iron topaz]

Heres a better look at what a variant could look like (this is a bought asset for the hunted i believe)

[lost acorn]

There's another idea in itself! A husky dog dlc would be awesome along side another tundra themed map

[iron topaz]

While offtopic from gray wolf retexture/remodel, i would actually prefer a retriever over a husky personally. Don't get me wrong, huskies are great, I'd just prefer a retriever for bird hunting as they can retrieve the bird and bring it to you

I am now going to post some wolfquest coats that can be used as inspiration for recolored in-game variants

Grays and Browns
(Gray and Brown would serve as common coats as they are both the "typical" Gray wolf.)

Black/Melanistic
(I would make this darker as to make it seem less of a chocolate brown than a black. Chocolate could be a neat variation though, coudn't it?)

[iron topaz]

As for the uncommon/rare coats (Blonde and Eggwhite), I honestly can't really find any coats that work super well for those, so I'd just use the previously posted photos here as reference.

[iron topaz]

...ok you know what maybe it's time for one last possible variation suggestion
Chocolate?
First photo is a husky but the rest are wolves
Technically black but could still be neat to see

And dropping down one last reference for the Brown variant as this guy's a stunning wolf.

To summarize...
Common
Grey, Brown
Uncommon
Eggwhite, Blonde, Chocolate
(Eggwhite being the most common of these, with Blonde and Chocolate being equally rare.)
Rare
Melanistic
(As black wolves are more common in the US, while rare in Eurasia.)
Very Rare
Albino

[simple perch]

The wolf.. definitely needs a remodel. A lot of the proportions are off and there’s a lot of problems with it.

[iron topaz]

Bump

[iron topaz]

Bump

@sonic quest feel free to check out this thread btw

[wraith mica]

This would be perfect alongside my https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1123062379425574942 concept

[sonic quest]

Yhh i did

Bump

[iron topaz]

Bump

[clear goblet]

Bump

[glad hornet]

Bump

[turbid drift]

We needs this. The wolf's look so bad in game compared to the update animals.

[glad hornet]

Also Iberian wolves need a remodel. They look sooo cartoonish

[iron topaz]

Bump

[iron topaz]

I agree. And there is enough color differences between the two species that they can still be distinguished. Iberian wolves are generally darker:

They have it pretty well done coloration wise but it can still use some tweaks

[plain zenith]

I think the biggest issue with wolves as of right now is their face. Its very awkward looking, the same way that foxes looked before they had their rework. Wolves have odd looking eyes, muzzles, and the depth is all wrong.

Fixing that and updating the fur graphics for more of a bushy neck and tail would make a world of difference even if there were no updated color textures.

There's really no way to mess up a wolves' fur color, since they are so diverse and unique.

[iron topaz]

I agree with everything here
^^ while i do agree with the last statement I would like if the coats had more markings, yk?

[glad hornet]

Bump

[iron topaz]

bump

[winter ledge]

Grey wolf rework should include:
¤ Slight rework to fur texture/density
(to bring it up to red fox standard).
¤ Comprehensive AI rework
(+Fix frozen wolves).
¤ 2 GO models for Grey Wolf
(Consider 1 GO model for iberian).

This would be a similar undertaking to what they did with moose in the granite update.

[glad hornet]

Wow nice! Maybe add also more fur variations

[iron topaz]

Eggwhite could be renamed to Pale.

[iron topaz]

updated list, what do we think?

[iron topaz]

rename eggwhite to pale or keep it as eggwhite?

[glad hornet]

And the red fur type? I mean the fur that we have now in the game

[iron topaz]

red fur type is blonde

[iron topaz]

this guy

[iron topaz]

though if you do want a red we could reference the critically endangered red wolves. not many grey wolves have this coloration from what i know hence me changing red to blonde. plus the red kinda reminds me of the brown
(i am aware that red wolves are a grey wolf subspecies but the ones in the us, canada and europe don't usually come in red from what i know. closest you get is a brown)

[coarse light]

Yes

[glad hornet]

#1142199088293626007

[iron topaz]

bump

[iron topaz]

bump, but it should be noted that my suggested chocolate could be a rare given that black wolves are very rare in eurasia (where medved is) but common/uncommon in america. because of this, if it does ever get implimented it could be another variant for melanistic (much like how sometimes an animal may get 2 or 3 piebald patterns)

[wraith mica]

Eurasia*

[iron topaz]

fixed!

[iron topaz]

bump

[iron topaz]

GENERAL CHANGES:

• The addition of more markings. Including: A black stripe behind the eye, the black-and-white saddle, black tail tip, white snout and cheeks, a brown blaze up the snout for common variations + Eggwhite/Pale.
• Patching up the face and tail: see #1142199088293626007

COLOR-SPECIFIC CHANGES:

• Recoloring, renaming Red-Brown and Eggwhite to Blonde and Pale respectively. Decreasing the rarity of these two variations to Uncommon.
• Removed Dark Grey, replaced with Brown.
• Recoloring Melanistic and adding another variation: Chocolate! Much like how some species in the game have multiple piebald patterns that may appear, you have a chance of a melanistic being a Chocolate color.

Common
Grey, Brown
Uncommon
Eggwhite/Pale, Blonde
Rare
Melanistic
(Has a chance of being a chocolate-colored variation!)
Very Rare
Albino

[iron topaz]

REAL WOLVES FOR REFERENCE!
In order: Grey X2, Brown X2, Eggwhite/Pale X2, Blonde, Black Melanistic, Chocolate Melanistic, Albino
A wonderful rainbow of colors!

[iron topaz]

Sending more stuff tonight when I can. I tried posting more stuff last night but my laptop does not like to cooperate with me.

[iron topaz]

💯

[wraith mica]

Bump

[hazy carbon]

Bump

[iron topaz]

please check out #1142199088293626007 as well

[iron topaz]

@lapis wind no, there'd just be 2 melanistic variants like how some animals have different piebald patterns

[iron topaz]

the classic thehunter games did the grey wolves very good!! so how come in cotw they're not as high quality?

[wraith mica]

Holy,I’ve never played classic,they look fairly good especially for a fairly old game.

[iron topaz]

yea id just add some more coloration to the back and thats literally it

[iron topaz]

Bump

[stuck marlin]

👍

[high cave]

I personally think the "albino" wolf fur variant should be replaced with a leucistic variant. I did some searching online and couldn't find any reliable sources to show that actual albino wolves exist, but I did find a source that confirmed the existence of leucism in wolves. From what I can tell, all white wolves are either leucistic, very old (so their fur has lost its pigment with age), or they belong to the Arctic Wolf subspecies, which seem to always be white by default (and obviously the wolves depicted in the game aren't Arctic Wolves). If we want to be realistic, the pure white wolf variant should be considered Leucistic rather than Albino.

[high cave]

So, I might have just proven myself wrong. If this is a real picture of a real wolf (it's impossible to be certain), that's almost certainly an albino wolf, it has literally no (visible) pigment at all. There seems to be foliage obscuring its eyes, so I can't be sure that it has the red eyes of an albino animal... but if that's real, I'm almost certain that it actually is albino (and probably the only real picture of an albino wolf on the internet)

There also seem to be real instances of albinos in other canines like jackals and coyotes, so even if that picture isn't real, I guess it's still technically possible

although it still seems like leucistic wolves must not be as rare as albinos since it's a lot easier to find pictures of leucistic wolves (and reliable information about them) than albinos. So either way, whether albino wolves are a real thing, it's probably more realistic to call the rare white variation "leucistic" in the game.

[iron topaz]

I disagree.
A leucistic variant (assuming it has a black nose and etc) would just look like an Arctic wolf. I personally would prefer it to be strictly albino.
And 2. Lions have an albino variant ingame despite all white lions irl being leucistic.
Theres also melanistic mountain lions despite zero recorded instances of melanistic puma irl.
Just another one of those things that have been repeatedly reported in COTW's world but not our own.

You could make an arguement for the current eggwhite in the game being leucistic tho

[high cave]

oh yeah, wolves are far from the only species in the game that have rare variations that have no basis in reality. Melanistic Mountain Goats and Red Deer also don't have any basis in reality as far as I know. What's strange to me though is that there's rare animals in the game that don't exist in real life, but then there's rare animals in real life that don't exist in this game (like leucistic moose and mountain lions, albino black bears, etc.)

Imo that's pretty strange. But maybe it just means that EW adds rare animal variants entirely based on what they think would be cool in the game, rather than what actually exists. If that's the case, we ought to be glad that they haven't decided to add super crazy things like a bright pink mountain lion or a purple moose to the game (yet).

heck, I should start a new thread with a list of all the rare animals that exist in real life that could be added to the game. The list would probably be a mile long.

[iron topaz]

Bump

[iron topaz]

Bump

[iron topaz]

Check out https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1142199088293626007 also while ur here

[marble cobalt]

Yeah, the grey wolves don't look quite as fluffy or soft as they do irl, and fur variants would be cool too!

[mighty vortex]

What are all these symbols you keep posting on all the suggestions?

[turbid drift]

It's how people show support for a suggestion they like

[mighty vortex]

This confuses me. There are thumbs up for that? Is this still support, how so?

Thank you

[turbid drift]

When a suggestion gets pushed way down on the feed people post this and it brings it back up the feed so people can give it the thumps up. It it always stays at the bottom of the feed no one will see it to give the thumbs up.

[mighty vortex]

Sorry for my questions, would it be better to write meaningful wording instead of emoji? Emoji seems of poor effort to encourage new life into such a suggestion . Thank you
If post as this is old 30 day +, would that show to us that interest in this post is done?

I am sorry it still has me confused.

[turbid drift]

Sure ,if you want to. The emoji was made to be used though. Whatever you prefer

[mighty vortex]

I like idea, but post is now very old, new post of “Cormorant” is now being sent to bottom because of these emoji. I do not think this is correct.

[turbid drift]

Well you could go comment on it to bring it up. EW has said it the stream to comment on a post you still want to keep it relevant. Most people only do it once or twice a day to give others time to be seen.

[mighty vortex]

I understand why you do now. But I do not think that this actions are correct. With passion you could make a nice comment to create conversation and new life on old post. But emoji I think is lazy I think. I say with kindness to you, maybe effort is more needed.

[wraith mica]

It’s not even close to the bottom…

[glad hornet]

Bump

[median halo]

bump

[glad hornet]

Bump

[clever hinge]

yes

[leaden stratus]

100% my wolfies are so greasy 😢

[iron topaz]

Im looking back on this and the snout kinda comes off as coyote to me

[iron topaz]

And may i see this article on leucistic grey wolves? Because whenever i think of a "white wolf" my brain automatically goes to an arctic wolf, or an aged yellowstone wolf like the white lady that lived for like 14 years. Ive never heard of a leucistic wolf

Like yeah ive heard of white wolves. Just never a leucistic one

[high cave]

Here's the article. Not sure if it's really a reliable source but I've seen a few other sources saying the same thing about the wolf.
https://www.ynetnews.com/environment/article/s1lb11sbfj

[iron topaz]

Ohh yeah that one. I'd believe it being a leucistic wolf but its just as likely to be an escaped expensive hound, imo. Somethin like a pharoah hound

Or a jackal? The face isnt exactly "wolf" to me

[high cave]

Wolves in the Middle East are generally a bit smaller and skinnier than wolves in more northern regions, so that could be a potential explanation.

For point of reference, here's some pictures of normal Arabian Wolves (the Gray Wolf subspecies found in southern Israel). As you can see, they're quite scrawny and often are not as fluffy or robust as other Gray Wolves, especially the ones in for example North America or northern Europe.

[iron topaz]

I see

[high cave]

bump

[stuck marlin]

Bump

[trim glade]

Why are the wolves of Medved-Taiga National Park black? Black wolves were occasionally reported in Asia. They are rare fur.

[iron topaz]

Melanistic is a rare fur for wolves in Medved.
The normal wolves just might seem dark from a distance.

[stuck marlin]

Bump

[iron topaz]

Bump

[iron topaz]

Bump

[obsidian nest]

I'm almost certain they're gonna do this simply because a dev jumped in here with that "Hey, thanks for this suggestion" message. I'm noticing a trend with that👀

[median halo]

this? @obsidian nest

[obsidian nest]

Yeah. I've noticed most posts that get that message end up happening. Idk if it's because of the post or because it's just a coincidence they were already working on it.

[daring wren]

I say have them study real wolf pelts in a museum

[pseudo plinth]

This is very needed

[median halo]

bump

[pseudo plinth]

Bump

[iron topaz]

Time to make some color edits...

[iron topaz]

Ok this color edit is actually ass but I tried

The eye markings ruin the whole look and I blame that on the eyes themselves... makes em look funky

OK WAIT IM MAKING A BETTER ONE RN

I recolored it to make it have a more proper wolf-like coloration!

Gave it some more grey and fixed the snout bridge being too vibrant! Really happy with this recolor and I hope EW revisits their wolves someday.

[iron topaz]

Hey if any of yall have a melanistic wolf taxidermied and mounted can ya post the mount for me so I can recolor it? Much appreciated

Or any rare wolf really, dosent have to be just melanistic (albinos are an exception, they're fine imo)

[median halo]

the whole thing needs a remodel not just the fur colors also those arent how they look

[iron topaz]

I do agree with your statement. The whole body needs a makeover, not just the fur colors. However I do want to use the current model to recolor and show off how EW can greatly improve them. There is #1142199088293626007 for more anatomy related subjects.

Also, mate, I've been drawing wolves for years now, do you really wanna run that by me again? I'm sure I'd know what I'd be talking about after looking at so many pictures of wolves and drawing so many and memorizing the patterns. Sure, its a loose recolor, and far from perfect, but its at least better than what we have right now.

"Thats not what they look like" my ass

[iron topaz]

Like cmon man its got the white cheeks. Its got the eyebrow markings. Hell, its even got the colored snout blaze and the stripe behind the eye. Youd be surprised how many games miss the mark with some of those markings lmaoo. Sure I could have made the recolor more grey and have a gradient and such but like... its supposed to be a rough recolor nothing too perfect. Just something rough but better than what we have now

Instead of maybe saying "thats not what they look like," instead actually explain whats wrong here exactly?

Anyways heres the thehunter classic model. Im surprised they got the colors so wrong in cotw but so right in classic

[median halo]

who does bro think he is

the drawings were terrible and that isnt the suggestion.. iberian wolves have similar colors with tan and stuff but look bad cuz the model. Your saying you like the models but just want a recolor which isn’t what this is mainly about

[iron topaz]

Oh no I want the models to change too but right now my focus is on recolor because there is another thread #1142199088293626007 that goes into anatomy
Did I ever say I liked the models? No. I'm just using the opportunity to use them as a base for recolors as a suggestion on how to improve them.

And anyways, about "who does bro think he is?"
Im an artist. You talked smack about something I'm happy about. If you're going to critique something, actually provide an explanation, a suggestion on how to make it better. Just saying something like "thats not how they look" is not helpful at all and makes you come off as a less than favorable person to be with. So heres a quick lesson on manners.

Try putting yourself in my shoes. An inverse scenario. How would you feel if, instead of actually giving possibly valuable critique, I just talked smack about something you made and are proud of? Think before you speak next time.

Freedom of speech =/= freedom from the consiquences

[thin prairie]

Bros allergic to fun

[iron topaz]

Also, retexture also implies recolor, seeing that every animal in game so far that has recieved a retexture also had some color changes, so there you go, very much on topic still

[median halo]

how are bad drawings classified as fun

[iron topaz]

Clearly this dude has never experienced the joy in creating

[median halo]

😂😂

[iron topaz]

The art wasnt even made for you specifically so you can shut your howling screamer

[median halo]

howling screamer 😭

[iron topaz]

Since you wanna talk down to me so bad you go ahead and make a better recolor

[north grove]

Your re color is great wtf is this person smoking

[north grove]

This is NOT planet zoo

[patent hamlet]

Wolves remoded with a great one next year 🙃

[north grove]

ONG

[daring wren]

Yes but it shows what a rly good video game wolf would look like

[north grove]

Fair and no hate to gabboi cause they did the best they could and furs are great but the planet zoo wolf model is like the ugliest out there

[daring wren]

It was the best demonstration I could think of

[north grove]

Fair there quite literally is no good wolf model out there

[high cave]

I think that's a bit of an unfair generalization. I think Red Dead Redemption 2, Far Cry 5, and Way of The Hunter all have wolf models that look pretty good. Heck, considering the limited resources available to each of them, I think theHunter Classic and WolfQuest Anniversary Edition both did a pretty good job with their wolf models as well. Of course there's no game that has perfectly depicted wolves, but there are definitely games that have done a pretty good job.

[median halo]

fr, wolves are honestly one of the hardest things to model

[iron topaz]

^^

Which is kinda... silly? Because they're such popular animals. But like, at the same time I get it. They come in so many different colors that there is almost no definite answer for how a "standard" wolf should look.

[iron topaz]

wolfquest is one of the only games to have gotten their wolves right

say what you will about their other coats (and i'd agree with you!) but some, like this guy, are literally perfect for what a wolf SHOULD look like

if only the black wolves in the game looked like this too

[high cave]

Yeah most of their wolf coats are really well-done, that's for sure.

[median halo]

the coats are good but the actual wolf model isnt great

[iron topaz]

Eh, better than most

[north grove]

Not saying that much lol

[north grove]

I just seen the classic wolves and their playing animation. This game needs that and the beautiful variety that the coats of the wolfs there have

[solid breach]

Its an Iberian Wolf but still, they look goofy and a remodel (with a quality similar to the animals updated for nepal) for wolves of would be very well received

[north grove]

So silly

I miss the red brown and egg white uncommon days

[median halo]

those are still in the game and its better that their rare instead of uncommon

[north grove]

Yep that’s why I said I miss the uncommon days

[median halo]

bump

[daring wren]

Bump

[plain zenith]

bump

[plain zenith]

and compare it to a realistic reference
wolves are DEF overdue for some TLC, even moreso than lions

[median halo]

bump

[north grove]

Lions are…. Far worse and this is coming from a predator hunter

[median halo]

i love hunting preds to but they all look bad lol

[north grove]

Same minus snow leapard, gray and tibeatan fox, and bengal tiger

[gloomy girder]

They look so cool irl but there so ugly in game this would be really cool!

[gloomy girder]

This to ugly and goofy they need to remodel these

[gloomy girder]

Class 2 and 3?

[iron topaz]

Old advertising thing
Idk if its official, i found it on facebook

[gloomy girder]

Yeah I just figured this was a old post

[gloomy girder]

FACEBOOK?

[iron topaz]

Yea
Cotw has a facebook page pretty sure

[gloomy girder]

o:

[dusky anchor]

https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1273124990723555491 T: 4 however considering they hunt in packs T:5 at the highest.

[gloomy girder]

All you do is advertise your own posts.

[dusky anchor]

Thats not true I add a bunch of threads to mine to spread the word.

[gloomy girder]

Sorry, but thats all I see you do.

[dusky anchor]

All the threads I get involved with I share their threads with mine and I share mine bc it takes less space to do so. I dont want to make a full page msg on another person's thread. I have no issue if folks share threads on my posts. Especially if its related to the topic or subject. I'm not Wellington with his Africa thread.

Like this thread I added it to the predator pack I put together as an example.

Same with the lodges and all ideas related as a reference, it also spreads the link n word gets around. I believe ppl call it Networking.

[north grove]

Can’t say i disagree. Most of the time you talk I see you linking your threads tbh

[dusky anchor]

I do agree with you their lions are ok for 2018 but defn. Need help esp. after Nepals models. The floofy feature with the Tahr was amazing & I'd love to see the same detail on alot of the Species esp. On the wolves, coyotes, bears & lions. I love predators but after seeing a fox inbred of a coyote I nearly flipped.

[dusky anchor]

Just putting my input out there I'd expect anyone else to do the same. It doesn't bother me none. We're all trying to improve the experience one way or the other sometimes its just easier to make a thread and share it than explaining it. With how many threads there is alot of them dont get seen let alone even mentioned bc of the other subjects. So I made it a habit to add shared links in my threads so they also get seen & reviewed.

It just so happens alot of the time I share a link its bc its related to the topic thats all. But yea I think alot of remodels are far past due. And more mount options as well. I also had a discussion in another thread about reworking predator ai behaviors as well as G1 options for wolves and other predators.

[gloomy girder]

BUMP

[trim glade]

Gray Wolf found in Yukon Valley is the subspecies Canis lupus pambasileus is commonly known as the "Alaskan black wolf" or "Yukon black wolf". This variety of wolf typically has a dark fur, predominantly black, although shades of gray and white may appear in some individuals. This subspecies can also exhibit a light-colored fur. This type of fur is often described as white or pale cream, although it is less common than the black morph (grey, dark grey).

I propose the inclusion of wolves with control collars, a rare or very rare feature that could be observed in Yukon Valley.

Dark Grey and Grey Furs

[iron topaz]

Bump

[pseudo plinth]

276 bump

[pseudo plinth]

283

[trim glade]

More fur variation for Gray Wolf

[iron topaz]

Bump

[iron topaz]

Bump

[high cave]

bump

[devout magnet]

Bump

[hybrid jasper]

Yeah bump bump. Bump. Posting a picture would serve more purpose to this thread than a line of people saying "Bump"

This is Wolf #4M, the original lead male of the Mollie's Pack in Yellowstone. He is the current version of "gray" in-game although it is clearly a "BLACK WOLF"

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Error 404 - Fur Type Not In Game // One of the actual "grays and light gray" that should be in-game.

Here's a few Yellowstone Wolves :

• #5F (The mate of wolf #4M) (The original lead female of the Mollie's Pack)
• #38M (The original lead male of the Druid Peak Pack)
• #486F (The 3rd lead female of the Mollie's Pack)

[median halo]

bump

[median halo]

bu m p

[median halo]

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[median halo]

bum

[median halo]

This is my main suggestion, I made it 2 years ago and people are copying it and making it their own thing, i started everything

[median halo]

^

[median halo]

^

[gloomy girder]

You don't own a suggestion

[median halo]

I made this suggestion before anyone else? it has the most thumbs up out of them too, sounds like your jealous and it only makes sense to have one not a bunch of them

[median halo]

your a little kid bro what are you even saying

[trim glade]

Please update Iberian Wolf with the model and fur.

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Control collar 👈

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I beg you to update the Iberian Wolf with the 8.4 update. 🙏