#Plz Add Dedicated Black Bear drink zones or Reduce the tall grass around the lakes

1 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

shrewd kernel
#

I get having some single zones but to have every zone singles how are you even supposed to set up your map with tripods? You get setup on a zone and as soon as you kill it you have no idea what lake it went to and if it come back to the lake you shot it at its to close to the tripod. It's not even remotely fun to play this way. I miss the old days of having some black bear zones.

Edit
Since we may be stuck with single black bear zones please reduce the height tall grass to make the tripod optional. We can't setup the map with single zones. At some lakes with the wind it makes the tripod worthless.

pliant abyss
#

Bears don’t travel in massive herds or packs irl. This is about as realistic as bears could be in COTW, even as a grinder myself I find nothing wrong with this

shrewd kernel
#

@pliant abyss Bears can be seen in packs around rivers feeding on the fish. I'm not saying give us massive herds. Just maybe 2 females and a male in a herd like the moose. Just some way of being able to setup a tripod. The game should be fun to play. It's to much work to move your tripod everytime you kill a bear. I spend more time trying to setup than hunting. You spook them trying to setup again and you have to come back or sleep. You have to have the tripod on Srp or your can't see them in the grass.

pliant abyss
#

That’s why you setup to be able to cover a lot of ground, not to cover specific zones like with other GO species

shrewd kernel
#

@pliant abyss There are lakes don't allow this method.

pliant abyss
#

I managed just fine in the black bear grind using this method. You put down a tent 200m away from the closest side of the lake to you, then a tripod that’s far enough away from the zones on the opposite side of the lake so that you don’t spook those bears

shrewd kernel
#

I respect your opinion but I think it was more fun to play with some zones🫡

pliant abyss
#

That’s fair. Adaptability is a huge part of grinding any species in this game. Having to adapt new strategies, staying flexible with your setup and persevering is what sets you up for success

#

If I were to change anything I’d make their home range a little less widespread, so that we don’t have to deal with bears popping up across the entire map

#

That goes for every single animal in the game tbh. I hate having animals spread out across every goddamn body of water on the map. cough whitetail on Rancho cough

shrewd kernel
#

@pliant abyss this would be better than nothing. Maybe only at lakes you could actually use the method you discussed previously if it's going to be single zones.

pliant abyss
#

There’s absolutely different ways to balance grinding and casual hunting without taking away from the experience of the other

unique flower
#

The animals spawn randomly within their map zone and use the nearest drink zone, I don't think they hand-place the spawns one by one to accumulate more animals and make life easier for the grinders, after all, it is not a type of hunting that the studio wishes to promote

shrewd kernel
#

They are hard to hunt in general with just single zones. Grinding or not. You still have to have a tripod put out even if you dont grind. On certain lakes without a dedicated zone it's a terrible process. It sounds like what popcorners said about putting them in certain home range lakes where you can setup the tripod to cover the whole lake is probably the best meet in the middle solution.

shrewd kernel
#

So I had another thought also. How would you all feel about reducing the height of the grass where you then could see and spot the bears without the tripod. It wouldn't be great for hunting pressure but you atleast would be able to hunt the lake without scaring them off from putting out a tripod. The issue is some lakes have so many trees there is no clear sight line with wind involed to just leave a tripod out and the grass is to tall to not use a tripod. Something has to give🤷

pliant abyss
#

YES. WE DO NOT NEED TALL GRASS AROUND EVERY SINGLE LAKE

frosty grove
shrewd kernel
#

Plz Add Dedicated Black Bear drink zones or Remove the tall grass around the lakes

unique flower
#

really? Why don't we also remove the trees so they can shoot the animals without any problem?
Do you think hunting is just about shooting an animal? Apex Open Worlds Engine is an engine for the creation of realistic scenarios and terrain, the game is based on the simulation of realistic hunting scenarios and it does it very well, this is the essence of the game, if you want ease then ask for the next one map is a zoo where they can shoot animals in cages...

pliant abyss
#

Wow way to completely twist what we said. I fucking despise the long grass cuz it lags the fuck out of my game, not cuz I find shooting difficult in any way

#

So, apparently we can’t even ask about shortening the grass around lakes for better performance and visibility because “urgh deer cookie clicker”

shrewd kernel
#

@unique flower You prefer your way I prefer mine. It's a game man not real life. That's why we have games and real life hunting. Calm down lol

#

@unique flower I like shooting stuff. I'm a working man and play this in my part time. I don't want to spend 2 hours wondering what's in the grass and getting 2 kills because I'm to close to use my tripod and there is to many obstacles to put my tripod the distance away need to spot the animals in the grass. I'm just asking for a little balance. If wanted a walking simulator I would just go in real life or play way of the hunter which I despise.

#

Plz Add Dedicated Black Bear drink zones or Reduce the tall grass around the lakes

#

@unique flower I fixed the title for you 🤣

calm skiff
pliant abyss
shrewd kernel
#

@calm skiff I think you miss the point I was trying to make. It's not about skill it's what would make it a little more enjoyable. I want it challenging but atleast let it Spot the bears in the grass if it's going to be that tall. I'm just asking for a little balance which I don't think the black bears on silver ridge has on several lakes on SRP. Just my opinion. You may love it. To each their on.

worn fog
#

How would you realistically be able to tell how big a bear is if it is in high grass. I mean come on now lmao

shrewd kernel
#

@worn fog it's a game not real life 🤣. Fun is the objective. I'm not looking for an exact simulation. I have real hunting for that.

shrewd kernel
#

I see so many people on here talk about that's not how it is in real life. Well it's a game. If you guys want real let's get rid of huge racks all over the map. Let's get rid of the huge populations of animals all over the map. But no they want that even though it's not real life. This game would be boring as hell if it's based on real simulation like I hear so many people talk about. It's based on real life loosely. They even said in the streams they are not making it 100 percent simulation.

noble isle
noble isle
calm skiff
unique flower
shrewd kernel
#

@unique flower So it's not boring as hell. This isn't WOTH. If they turn into to that I would just play that instead. I play this because of the more animals and action. They already said in the streams that's not their goal but it sounds like you wish it was.

unique flower
#

I am not requesting anything, if there are difficulty increases I don't mind because I take it as a challenge, right now hunting in the game is easy, too easy, it is not necessary to reduce the difficulty just so that grinders can get their GO more easily , instead they could ask for other ways to obtain it, such as Apex connect events, seasonal events, hunt club events, any addition that broadens the activities of the game is welcome

dusky fox
#

This thread's suggestion is just too much. Essentially it is asking for the game to be made even easier so that "grinders" can further abuse the game's mechanics to collect their rare Pokémon. Just go play the game the way it was designed: walking around the vast open world and hunting. You don't need to slaughter 25 bears at a lake in a single session to get a GO. Since they are purely a result of the random number stars aligning just right, your chances are just the same. If implemented, it would just about take COTW to the level of "hunting" in Hunting Clash or some other shooting gallery game and make it very, very boring.

brittle field
#

Nem don't really have any grass around the lakes and rivers

shrewd kernel
#

@dusky fox It's not about grinding for the Go. It's about what I think is more fun. I played this game when we had black bear zones and it was alot more fun that way. You could find males at alot of lakes. Now I spend most of my time just trying to find a male. I don't enjoy traveling the whole map to find something good to shoot. I'm just making an opinion of what i think is fun. It was better like they had it before with zones. Everything isn't just about the GO. It's about fun and enjoyment also and I just prefer the way it used to be with zones or atleast smaller home range. I'm sorry the grinders touched you guys. Can't something be about enjoyment. Not everything is about grinding.

#

@brittle field This is true. It's definitely better than some in that aspect but the home range is so big you still have the issue with alot of females and no males until you travel all over sometimes. Just just my preference to have zones. But hey I'm one person with an opinion just like everyone else has.

dusky fox
# shrewd kernel <@265963442723225600> It's not about grinding for the Go. It's about what I thin...

I have also been playing a long time. I like walking around and discovering. I don't like hunting with a spreadsheet and being bored with animals showing up on a predetermined schedule at a lake over and over again. But that is how the game works and how most people play it. So we have a different opinion on what we find to be fun, and that is fine with me. I am just saying it doesn't need to be made even easier for "hunting" by spreadsheet to happen. If it were up to me, I would argue that need-zones should be made invisible to players (but you could work them out by observation), never marked on a map, and the times (especially for drinking) have a greater degree of randomness.

fervent geyser
#

each map is made to try an replicate the actual environment that it represents. If the map you are grinding doesn't suit you for some reason then go to another map .... Don't ask for the map to be changed because it's not fun for you. There are some maps that I like and some that I don't like and surprisingly the ones I like get played more.

#

It's funny when the "other game" came out all I heard was that COTW is too arcady and too easy .... Now we still have people who say it's too hard. If trophy grinding is the way you want to play then that's fine lots of players do but you have chosen black bear which is the most difficult GO grind. Don't ask that it be made easier for you embrace the challenge that you have chosen or choose another grind.

#

And finally Lots of us are casuals who have to work and dont have the time to grind.. I personally have given up the notion of doing a time consuming grind.. GO grinding is an end game activity and all games end in a grind eventually once you get to max level.

shrewd kernel
#

You guys need to get the Go off your brain. This post isn't about the GO. It's about having more black bear male to hunt. Now that they are single zones it's not as fun. It is my opion. I don't like going to Lake after lake and only finding females and some lakes nothing. Just make the home range smaller if it's single zones and it would help with the issue. I used to love going to some of my lakes on SRP and having black bear to shoot. I would have 3 and 4 at a lake now females or nothing.

fervent geyser
#

The fact that you are finding no males means there are other zones where they are going. You'll need to find those zones .... Thats why it's called hunting and not shooting .... Predators, and in particular those that drink at night can be difficult. If you just want to shoot stuff then there are other species that are easier than bears. But since you have chosen bears it means that you accept the challenge that goes with hunting them. Either fully embrace that challenge or find something else to hunt .....

molten crater
#

I think a happy medium wold be like I seen the other day a new feed zone in the rivers and lakes for bears as Thay do eat fish

fervent geyser
#

Sure I have responded favorable to that suggestion before. I would like to see bear feed zones in the water (shallows) and away from shore. Feeding in the daytime.... This would also solve the issue of bears hiding in the reeds ....

shrewd kernel
#

@molten crater this is all I'm asking for is some balance. It would make it more fun also.

#

@fervent geyser I know they are going to other zones. That's my point exactly. They didn't used to do that. Now that they do its not as fun traveling to the entire map to find 1 lake that all your males has traveled to. And this is a platform to discuss opinions and thoughts. I will hunt black bears because I like hunting them. If I have a problem with what they changed I will post an opinion about it and Not stop hunting black bears as you tell me to do.

noble isle
fervent geyser
#

@shrewd kernel you say I will hunt black bears because I like hunting them. .... Obviously you don't our you wouldnt be asking for them to be changed. I"m not saying that you should stop hunting black bears .... Hunt what you like but dont say you like hunting something when your calling for it to be changed ... and I have no problem with EW looking at the bear AI to see if it's bugged or something. If it is then they should fix it .... But aside from fixing something that is not working as intended I am not in favor of making changes to maps and a whole species just to make a certain species easier to hunt .

shrewd kernel
#

It's obvious I was saying I like hunting them in general just not how they are now with these changes.