New DLC pack

[azure mortar]

From the stream he said it won't be available in multiplayer, it has B and oom in it as well. What are your guesses and what concepts are not available in multiplayer now?

[river bridge]

You can use it in MP... it's not free in MP like a reserve 😉

Is what I meant... sorry if that was confusing lol

[rough schooner]

I’m thinking Big boom
It’s an M105 Howitzer

[azure mortar]

Oh okay.

[river bridge]

I had nothing prepared as actual hints, I just wanted to tell you all hahahaa now as long as I don't get in trouble for that....

[rough schooner]

Fr tho I think it’s gotta do with a Bedroom which leads me to believe it’s a new trophy lodge

[shell python]

Jaxy you promised to thumbs up anyone who got it right. How precise do we have to be?

[azure mortar]

Maybe but I though he said no trophy lodge.

[rough schooner]

He didn’t specifically say no lodge

[river bridge]

You'd have to nail it

[river bridge]

True, I didn't

[rough schooner]

Is it as simple as “new trophy lodge” or will I have to say “new trophy lodge set in _____ named _____, etc”

[azure mortar]

I would think nail it means all the specifics

[shell python]

If it's a weapon pack, do I have to mention all the guns, with the cartridge, caliber and paint job variants?

[river bridge]

Hahaha would I be cruel if I said yes? 😇😇

[azure mortar]

Well you would have less chance of losing the job.😏

[shell python]

No, because if you did, you would've indirectly confirmed it's a weapon pack (although that's pretty clear already)

[rough schooner]

Im still holding out hope it’s not a weapon pack

[river bridge]

Is it though? 😇

[shell python]

Here's my first try:
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[azure mortar]

@shell python remember the weapon pack you said the bigass weapon pack or something like that? Maybe that's the DLC.

[river bridge]

When I saw this first thing I thought was "I need this in my world"

[rough schooner]

Ooh, Jaxy. Can you say anything regarding whether we’re getting new multimounts or not?

[azure mortar]

For laugh's add the kolibri pistol in that weapon pack as well?

[shell python]

Also you confirmed it has equipment in it, for which my guess is scopes count as equipment
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[azure mortar]

@river bridge apart from the DLC would you like to see a weapon rebalances of the .270 and 6.5?

[river bridge]

This one got a fair number of upvotes man!! We really do need some new scopes.

[shell python]

mhm yes

[river bridge]

Honestly, my thoughts only, I'm pretty happy with the .270 but only for game balance reasons not irl comparison, but the 6.5 needs some love.

[shell python]

hello, what about .223???

[azure mortar]

Yes. The 6.5 needs a big buff. Namely higher expansion and bleed rate. That or lower it to a 3-7 class weapon. Yes the .223 especially as well. For got about that one.

[river bridge]

Game balance is always a tough one, I don't envy our designers for their job.

[azure mortar]

Oh okay. I did not know that was a tough one.

[river bridge]

We've seen in the past that one wrong move and a weapon becomes OP leaving others obsolete

It must be hard to find the right fit.

[azure mortar]

Yeah. That is true.

@river bridge A cool event that would be fun to watch would be a diamond challenge with all the big Cotw creators. Have you, flinter, scarecrow, lady legend, and others all join one server and duke it out for the biggest diamond you can get.

[strange ore]

B + oom? ... Bar room? Bridegroom? Badger of Doom?

[azure mortar]

Badger of doom. LOL

[shell python]

On the topic of game balance, there is also the rarity of diamond potential animals. Diamond Capercallies are quite common compared to something like an American Alligator in my experience. I think I've seen maybe one level 9 gator ever.

[rough schooner]

A bar room huh, that could be interesting

[azure mortar]

@shell python how long until the update you think? Like a monthish

[shell python]

What if they all film it from their own perspective and then edit it together like hunger games? 🤩
I think about a month.

[azure mortar]

Yes. The goal could be the first to a diamond bobcat on rancho or something. Something difficult but not so challenging they can't get it done it one day.

[rough schooner]

A big gunroom

[shell python]

Ok but CashnipLeaf is not allowed on premises.

[azure mortar]

What or who is Cashnipleaf?

[shell python]

You'll learn son.

[azure mortar]

Also if he even does it anymore, invite TSG to the event.

[shell python]

ProXCK and RonMcTube too

[azure mortar]

@shell python what animal though is challenging to get a diamond but not so challenging to get one? Like it could take a while but not a whole day

[shell python]

Gator.
Like I said, I killed over 200 gators and never seen a 9

[rough schooner]

Blacktail, Roosevelt Elk, Brown Bear, Black Grouse, Ptarmigan, Tufted Duck, European Bison

[shell python]

Agree, but are you sure about the roosevelts?

[azure mortar]

Are red deer hard to get diamonds?

[rough schooner]

Not really

[azure mortar]

Okay so no red deer.

[shell python]

Oh, and Mel should be in such an event.

[azure mortar]

Okay. So what maps would you suggest if this event took place?

[shell python]

I'd like to see them tackle Mississippi, and without treestands and tripods. Just to see how they handle that.
But that might be a bit of a small map for all those people.
or run two semi finals and one final.

[azure mortar]

Yeah I was thinking about that. I think at first we give them an easier map to get a diamond and then let's say the first 5 people to get a diamond make it to the final round which is Mississippi to get a diamond.

[shell python]

no, they'll just go for whitetail. have to specify diamond of species x,y and not z.

[azure mortar]

No that's correct. So gator would be a species. Or what about the biggest small game diamond on a map. And then the biggest big species on a map.

[shell python]

That makes sense because the quail on mississippi is a pain in the hind quarter hole

[azure mortar]

Yeah. So for Mississippi do the quail and the gator.

@shell python we would have to regulate what weapons as well. It would not be fun to see them run around with 12 gauge pump and the 303 or 7mm.

[shell python]

no they can have those, but no semi auto riflesor night vision.

[azure mortar]

Okay that makes more sense. Also what would be better. Who can get the bigger diamond quail and bigger diamond gator or who can get the two diamonds quicker.

[shell python]

biggest in score, because the true end product is entertainment and hype for COTW

[azure mortar]

The main prize would just be bragging rights right?

Okay. I am going to pitch this idea on the polls

[drifting ginkgo]

I will just throw this here. As I am not native english speaker, to me it could have also been "p" + "um" sooo... photo album?

[azure mortar]

Maybe. I don't know to be honest. It seems like anything from a new weapon and or equipment pack to a new lodge. I don't really know.

[rough schooner]

No he said “B” and “oom”

[haughty olive]

What about boomstick?

A double barrel 12 gauge Remington

The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear boom is the boomstick from army of darkness

[rough schooner]

Doesn’t end with “oom”

[frank laurel]

How about trophy pics like classic has ... that has certainly been requested for some time

[rough schooner]

Would be awesome

[dense plaza]

I have been trying to remember what was the one thing people have been asking for from the start of the game, the only thing I can think of is a bolt action version of the 7mm and 338.

[rough schooner]

Loadouts
Trophy shots
Crossplay (this one’s not happening tho)

[dense perch]

What about dynamite tipped arrows 🤔

[frank laurel]

just been thinking that map filtering might also be a thing and it seems to match a lot of the hints that Jaxy was throwing out. One hint in particular he said the update would not be something you would have in multiplayer .... And map filtering would fit in with that hint because they may disable map filtering in MP because everyone needs to see all the zones in MP. So if you share your map then all zones will need to be visible but in SP you will be able to filter your zones ....

[haughty olive]

He said it's not free in mp but you can use it in mp

Would new base game guns count as not free?

Since you need to pay in game money to use them

[craggy perch]

I really hope it's a usable dock boats or a kayak, that would definitely change everything, after all, they already have the experience of using it in theAngler.

[azure mortar]

It's going to be something cool. I think it has something to do with hunting because he said the dlc will have equipment in it. I don't know if the pack will contain guns. But I know there will be no explosives.

[gaunt shadow]

Better Zoom ( just playing word games ;-))

[gaunt shadow]

Did he say it had to end with “oom”? Could it be in the middle of the word?

Not that I know what it could be….

[rough schooner]

He did say it ended with it, suggesting the word “boom” but many of us have gone more in depth and looked at words like bedroom which would instead suggest a new lodge

[gaunt shadow]

Ok 🙂 tks

[haughty olive]

Idk if the captions are wrong but this changes everything

[haughty olive]

No lodge, he said it's a piece of equipment

[haughty olive]

Belgium starts with b and ends with um, so maybe a rifle from Belgium?

[rough schooner]

Didn’t reconfirm the lodge. Could be equipment within a lodge. We won’t know until it’s revealed

[turbid wraith]

I'm guessing a Supressor DLC B....OOM is the sound the gun makes. That would certainly be game changing and help with multiple kills at a time.

[eager abyss]

It starts with a b and ends with an oom (the actual item/pack)

[haughty olive]

I wonder if any map will be reset with this update

[craggy perch]

if they introduced any backfill to an existing map surely they would have

[rough schooner]

Doubt it

[azure mortar]

If they did add suppressors imagine putting one on the airgun.

[rough schooner]

Don’t air guns require a specialized air gun silencer?

[winter gate]

I’m kinda thinking shotgun rework because boom as in broomstick and as an avid wing and clay shooter myself this would be great having different shot size, power levels and chokes. Also a clay shooting range.

[craggy perch]

yes, airguns require specialized silencers, they are usually included in their design and are not interchangeable, there are generic ones but they horribly reduce performance if the gun does not have a high velocity projectile fire

So, is a new veteran cosmetic pack already confirmed?
any other ideas of the content of other DLC? there are so many old community requests it's hard to guess

[azure mortar]

Well he said that this one was one of the first requests made.

[azure mortar]

Yes and no. Yes they require specialized moderators. But they are interchangeable. Just like real firearms it is based on threads. The most common being 1/2x20 unf thread. I think your talking about shrouds. Most shrouds are not interchangeable. A couple like hugget shrouds are interchangeable but most shrouds for airguns are not interchangeable.

[solid pond]

A .17 HMR is a caliber used by Belgium

[haughty olive]

Exactly

A lever action .17 HMr that could take class 1-2 would be elite

[solid pond]

It would be great for fox, coyote, and raccoons

[haughty olive]

Yeah

[midnight crane]

boom .338 bolt action maybe?

[azure mortar]

@river bridge are there any new weapon accessories like suppressors, bipods, etc?

[frank laurel]

Not terribly excited about more guns .... I was hoping they would go in a different direction for this update... But Jaxy's hype is real ... the man could sell a turd in donut shop ....

[river bridge]

needs to buy a donut shop

give it time Mike! may win you over yet 😉

in fact now i will make it a point to ask you for your thoughts when you see the other 2 weapons AND the meat of the update.

[craggy perch]

really? I can remember at least 500 people who didn't want an AR when the Modern Pack came out, who would rather have a Bolt Action, well here it is

[dense plaza]

JaxyBeard said there was a theme to this gun pack, could the other 2 rifles be from the 308 family of calibers, like 260 rem or 7mm 08 or even a 338 federal

[haughty olive]

What are the other 2 weapons?

[river bridge]

yes

[rough schooner]

I myself am extremely disappointed it’s another rifle pack with yet another class 4-8 rifle. The only interesting part about the Olson is it’s a top loader.
I’m really hoping the free content you keep hyping us up over makes up for it

[haughty olive]

Fair enough

[frank laurel]

Well I have been outspoken about the AR 308 and I still haven't bought that pack. I just don't like the AR platform for hunting. So it is good to see the 308 in a more classic hunting configuration. Still not sure I will use it because I pretty much have a load out I'm happy with .

[azure mortar]

I don't know why but the bolt actions always seem to be more accurate than the semi auto rifles.

[frank laurel]

Well no doubt you will . Certainly did so with the recent pistol pack. I was convinced I had no use for it at all until I tried the .243 single shot and fell in love. It is now part of my regular load out and certainly will not be replaced any time soon ....

[frank laurel]

The semi's have more recoil so that 2nd shot is hard to get back on target .... It looks like the BA .308 has less recoil but longer animation to chamber another round .... It will be interesting to see what adjustments they make to the spook range and reaction times ....

[azure mortar]

That is very true. I also wonder what two other bolt action are.

[gray mauve]

My guess is 7mm and .338

[turbid wraith]

I'm going to guess something that I would like to see. 22mag for 1-3 class and an auto loader shotgun 12 gauge without the plug. Really hope we get a Log Cabin Style Lodge out of this.

[gray mauve]

Not gonna be a shotgun as jaxy said that the next two are both rifles. And there's no new lodge

[turbid wraith]

Did he already say that about the lodge?

[rough schooner]

It’s a weapon pack DLC + a cosmetic skin DLC

[modern ocean]

I'm figuring a light rifle, maybe 2-4 classes, but i'm hoping for something 6-9 rifle for the third. We need an option other than the .300

[rough schooner]

We definitely won’t be getting a 6-9 rifle

[modern ocean]

9.3x62mm, .35 Whelan, .358 Norma, anything in the medium bore class, .375 would be better for 7-9 game, basically anything to give an option outside the .300

[rough schooner]

A rifle that can take everything from red deer to Cape buffalo is far too unbalanced

[azure mortar]

That's the 7mm mag for you

[rough schooner]

God I truly hope we don’t get a bolt action 7mm rifle

[azure mortar]

What we need is a 1-3 or ,1-4 class weapon. Something like the 22-250 or 220 swift

[rough schooner]

Yeah that’s even more unbalanced

[modern ocean]

and yet, irl, a 9.3x62mm would do exactly that and more

[rough schooner]

Jaxy said it in the last EW stream himself, it isn’t about how the gun performs irl besides being a general reference point. They gotta make sure each weapon is equally viable and one isn’t fully “better” than another

[azure mortar]

Well I am curious to know what the other two guns are. I think we might actually get a new caliber. I think he said might or might not get a new caliber if I remember correctly.

[modern ocean]

Rough equals with similar size calibers wouldn't make anything obsolete just open options

[rough schooner]

Rough equals yes, not class 1-4 or 6-9 guns because those would outclass literally every other gun

Basically you’ve just made every class 1 rifle obsolete and replaced the .243.

The other one you’ve basically made another .300 that’s essentially the ultimate grinding gun that’s also ethical for red deer

I entirely wouldn’t mind a class 6-8 gun. I feel that would be balanced enough to not be stupidly OP. You could take it with you on maps without class 9 animals in place of the .300

[rotund perch]

I mean 9.3x74r is class 5 to 9, plus a 6 to 9 would be weaker then the 7 to 9's and probably wouldn't even be used by most since alot of us do still care about killing the animal fast and just use the same reliable loadout of 22lr, 243, 303 or any other 4 to 8 rifle and 300 ( and a shotgun if you can fit it with no callers or using pack mule).

[modern ocean]

2-4 class is already in game, and I didn't mean a literal 6-9 weapon just one in the range. The 7mm does 4-9 so how would a 6-9 be worse anyway?

[rough schooner]

The 9.3x74r is balanced by the lack of range it has imo. If we were to get a 4 round, bolt action 6-9 I entirely feel it would simply replace any class 9 viable guns people have in their loadouts

[azure mortar]

Honestly the pistols are very OP in my opinion. A 3-8 and 4-9 revolver. The rifles are very tame compared to the pistols and revolvers.

[rough schooner]

The idea is to have options like mentioned earlier, not release the sudden new best rifle in the game by a mile

[rotund perch]

To me its just more options. Though I don't see a 6 to 9 happening with the current system

[rough schooner]

Tbh tho, I’d take literally anything I’m fucking sick of getting class 4-8 rifles. There’s such thing as too many options

[modern ocean]

Fully agree.

[azure mortar]

Yes.

[rotund perch]

Yeah the 4 to 8's need a break

[azure mortar]

We need more 2-6 rifles like the 243 and more 3-7 rifles like the 7.62x54R.

[rough schooner]

.270
6.5 (tho this one should be a 3-7)
.303
.30-06 (two different rifles)
.308 (two different rifles now)
I think I’m missing one but yeah, this many 4-8 rifles yet we only have 2 separate class 2-6 rifles and only one 3-7 rifle

[modern ocean]

A semi-auto .243 like a new model BAR, and the .270/ 6.5 would be better in the 3-7 classes, but we need more options 7-9

[rotund perch]

Both muzzleloaders are 4 to 8

[rough schooner]

Tbh all I really wanna see is an air rifle for class 1s

[azure mortar]

I would say definitely more of the lower and upper class guns.

1 more 2-4 class guns
2-3 more 2-6 class
2-3 for 3-7 class
3-4 for 7-9 class

An small bore air rifle would be awesome. Either a 1-2 or 1-3 class weapon. Mostly 1-2

[rotund perch]

An air rifle pack sounds interesting. One for class 1 to 2, one for 3 to 6 and one for 7 to 9.

[rough schooner]

Tbh I genuinely wouldn’t mind a class 1-3 air rifle. Would be awesome to have that kind of variety

[azure mortar]

There are some great gun models and calibers for the devs to look at. Especially for small bore.

[modern ocean]

a .357 air rifle, would be nice for 1-3

[rotund perch]

Honestly though more crossbows would nice, we got the one in weapon pack one and nothing else

[rough schooner]

More bows in general tbh

[azure mortar]

More of a 30 caliber. A .357 caliber would destroy 1 class animals. At least with a 30 cal airgun people hunt birds and other things with them.

[modern ocean]

Having used a .357 air rifle on rabbits, I can say it wouldn't

[rough schooner]

You also gotta consider that each calibre is pretty nerfed in game

[rotund perch]

Cough cough 223 cough cough

[azure mortar]

Oh okay. I meant for more of birds like pigeons. Anyways here are some models of airguns they could use.

[modern ocean]

That's not nerfed, it's just usless

[rotund perch]

Whatever it is, yeah its completely useless xD. I wish it wasn't heck I just want it to do good on class 2

[modern ocean]

I mean, a .22 cal would do much better for birds outright, and we do have the .45 already the only step up from there would be a .50 like the umarex hammer and it's been used on bison for

[azure mortar]

The first one is a .357 FX Impact. The 3-5 class gun. The second one is the Airforce condor SS. A 1-3 class gun, then finally the AEA Zeus. A 6-9 class gun. They would be in .25 cal, .357 cal, and in .72 cal.

[deft path]

The Hunter: Call of Duty

[rough schooner]

Do any air guns that fire a calibre above .50 cal exist?

[azure mortar]

A .72 cal airgun

Also they have arrow airguns as well. About the same if not a little less power than a normal crossbow. Also air shotguns. Not a joke at all.

[rough schooner]

God it’s even named the AEA Zeus.

You know what we need? Light gas guns

[azure mortar]

The real life Vasquez Cyclone rifle.

[rough schooner]

Pretty damn close. The first image you showed just has a pistol grip

[azure mortar]

Identical all the way up the grip/stock areas.

@rough schooner what is a light gas gun?

[modern ocean]

177-25 caliber air guns

[azure mortar]

Okay. For ammo you would have 3-4 different kinds. You would have hollow points, diabolo pellets, and slugs.

[modern ocean]

Gamo did at one time, and I think Seneca still does make an air powered shotgun

[rough schooner]

It’s an apparatus used by NASA to test supersonic impacts in a vacuum environment. Simply put, a stopper is fired through an air-tight cylinder filled with hydrogen. The hydrogen is compressed to a space that’s millimeters in diameter which causes it to burst through a steel sheet in a barrel which lets the gas out, pushing the projectile out at speeds of Mach fucking 7 and above

[azure mortar]

What ranges do you think the sight in ranges should be? I was thinking for the 1-3 class gun it would be 200 yards. The 3-5 class 150/200 yards and the 6-9 class it would be 75-100 yards.

[rough schooner]

There’s been talking of weaponizing this technology and having it see use in the US military. So yeah I think it’s perfectly ethical for hunting 🗿

[azure mortar]

Yeah. The first and only class 1-9 weapon in the whole game

[rough schooner]

A weapon to surpass metal gear

[azure mortar]

What is the most comments on one feedback posts?

[rotund perch]

Probably this one

[azure mortar]

I don't know. Maybe. I have only been in this discord since Later January I think.

[azure mortar]

Would you like to see more airguns added to the game?

[rotund perch]

Personally I wouldn't use them much, but that's mainly because of my play style. however if they were good then I would probably use them or if loadouts got added so I could quickly change to my main loadout if I see a diamond animal I want to kill fast

[azure mortar]

I see your point. I would like to see them added for more variety and for more weapons. I think Cotw needs to capitalize on this. No other hunting games have airguns in them.

[rotund perch]

If loadouts ever get added I would use a ton of different weapons then what I currently do and just have a tent on me to quickly switch if I need to

[azure mortar]

If you could add them to the game, how would you implement them?

[rotund perch]

Ik classic does it by backpack, but since backpacks are already being used differently in cotw, I would put them in the same menu as like the store/storage/dog etc and have like 5 to 10 loadouts slots so you could a variety of loadouts made for different needs.

[azure mortar]

Okay yeah. I can definitely see them being implemented in that way. That would be a lot better than having access to everything in the tent storage. Have access to just the loadouts instead of having access to everything in the tent storage.

[rugged quarry]

.50 Barrett? Might have a spook radius large enough that it would disturb other hunters in multi-player

[haughty olive]

Wait til he hears about the drilling rifle

[haughty olive]

Probably won't add that caliber because people might get confused with the 9.3x74

[modern ocean]

True, then a double O/U 9.3x74R like classic would be better

[haughty olive]

I like that idea

[modern ocean]

Clasic has tons of gear that could be huge for cotw, not just weapons

[haughty olive]

Yeah, feeders, targets, retrievers, trophy shots

[modern ocean]

New camo, too

[azure mortar]

Also the tripods you can mount guns, the spotting Scopes, and the camo actually being useful as well.

[modern ocean]

I had an idea for bait stations, refilled with animals you hunted, for predators. pop them up like like decoys/blinds in feed zones so the predators go a specific spot in front of your blind/treestand

[azure mortar]

I don't know if they would do that. I am not sure.

[modern ocean]

I mean for it to function in the same way as a decoy but targeting predatory animals

[gray mauve]

I don't really see the point of feeders. We already have zones and know where animals will be at all times

[azure mortar]

Oh okay

[modern ocean]

animals tend to just go whereever in the zone, sometimes there's no good spot for a blind or treestand and luring the animal to a specific spot in an open shooting lane would be nice

[eager abyss]

I find tripods are best

[modern ocean]

But you've missed chances in thick brush and when the animal is hidden

[gray mauve]

If there's a lot of thick brush at a zone I'll set up a tripod near in a clear location and use a caller

I just don't think feeders and stuff would be a good dlc when there's other stuff we could use way more

[modern ocean]

Oh you aren't wrong , there's good gear in Classic that we could really use a lot more, clothes would be nice

[gray mauve]

Oh yeah I'd love an actual camouflage system

[modern ocean]

weather affecting hunters would be nice too, but it's not that kinda game

[gray mauve]

There's perks that do that but yeah, nothing really is different without them

[modern ocean]

Yeah, but having to wear the proper clothes would be nice, give you a reason to buy them

[gray mauve]

Absolutely

[modern ocean]

I wanna see just a bit more realism in game, they don't have to do much tho

[azure mortar]

Yes an actual camo system would be awesome. Also something to make loads for ammo.

[modern ocean]

weather effects would be cool, meaning heavy rain would keep animals in bedding areas for cover

[eager abyss]

I've lost more kills due to the new spook radius than due to thick brush

[frank laurel]

You cant loose something you never had . Whether it's thick brush or because of being spooked . These are mechanics used to add variety and challenge to the game . A game by the way that is constantly evolving and being balanced .

[winter gate]

I don’t think I’ve lost too many with the new spook radius I think it’s about perfect. Never really blamed the brush for losing animals but it is way too thick in some places in my opinion

[eager abyss]

the spook radius may not hurt as much on PC but on console its really bad

[azure mortar]

I don't notice the spook radius. Although I shoot the animals from 200 yards and beyond.

[eager abyss]

What do you play on

[azure mortar]

Xbox. And I don't do any mod add-ons. Just the DLCs.

[eager abyss]

Then you don't pay much attention

[azure mortar]

Why would I need to pay attention to the spook radius when I am shooting a red deer at 350 yards away.

[eager abyss]

Lol exactly so you don't know how many you've lost

[azure mortar]

I have scared lots of animals by noise. But I just reset the time and go after them again

The only weapon that does not scare animals away when shooting them is the airrifle.

[eager abyss]

Lol those probably scare animals off too but I don't know because I don't use it because it doesn't work for anything I hunt

[azure mortar]

It's quieter than a bow

[azure mortar]

With the airgun i can pick off an entire herd of pronghorn while with a bow one shot and they scatter.