#Dog breeds and Types (Customize your hunting experieince ) dog

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inner oak
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We need different Dog breeds as well as types. For example scent dogs can be many different breeds.

I love my blood hound but how about a Dachshund, a Beagle, a Harrier, a Griffon, a Coon hound ... etc . Having a different breed of dog to hunt with is like customizing your hunting outfit ..

One time you might like to hunt with your blood hound the next time with your Dachshund. And im just talking about scent hounds which we already have in game.

Now we have retrievers and pointers and there should be different breeds of dogs of those types as well. I would like to have a whole kennel full of different types and breeds of dogs.

Think of the dlc you could sell ... I'll definitely buy a dlc pack with a different dog breed or type that can customize my hunting experience .... puppyLove

Update 10/15/24 ..... Here are the different types of Dogs that could be added to the game .....
🐕 trackers (dog breeds that use the tracker skill like the bloodhound)
🐕 retrievers (breeds like the Lab )
🐕 pointers (breeds that point upland birds and retrieves when shot )
🐕 Chase dogs (think beagles hunting rabbits or foxhounds ... a good example of how this might work can be found here https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070641304255598602
🐕 Guard Dogs (large breeds that defend the hunter from predator attacks mitigating damage ) #1071107633571963031 message
🐕 Storage carrying Dogs (Med to large breed dogs that are trained to wear a back pack allowing them to carry smaller items for the hunter ... more details in this post here #1071107633571963031 message

🐕 Honorable Mention Transportation/sled Dogs see here #1088062419072466964 message

inner oak
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I also enjoy the process of training a new dog .... so a new breed of dog will need to be trained. And a different type of Dog will also need specific training for pointing, retrieving or tracking ....

inner oak
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would really like a Jack Russell to hunt with

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They are great at finding a downed deer in thick brush

tulip brook
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Add Irish wolf hounds for helping you to hunt wolves.

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Add walker hounds for treeing mountain lions and making them easier to hunt.

stark flax
tulip brook
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Oh true. I don't think they can do that. Can they make them climb trees?

spiral arrow
fathom owl
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Dogs to swim in water and retrieve your kills 🤔

inner oak
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Place your favorite hunting dog breeds here

whole crown
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Said it before, Drever. Unique and interesting breed and could be really fun to use.

urban trout
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A Pointer would be great (or a must have) for Uplandgame! This will be the next level of immersion I love bird hunting but for my sake it a bit to Run&Gun with "search the bird" and "flush e'm" it will be so more exciting!Pheasant MuddyGirl dogwithit

modern badger
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Stuff like German shorthairs and beagles are the ones I like the most and would be the most useful in game. I honestly think the bloodhounds we have are pointless.

inner oak
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No blood trackers are fun .... maybe not totally necessary for the experienced players but for the new players and those who make the occasional bad shot and have to track for long distance they are good to have.

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I like to have my dog with me just for companionship. Just as customizing weapons and outfits are unnecessary people like to do it. I think a breed of dog is like having a certain outfit or weapon wrap

inner oak
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One of the best trackers I know is one of these guys ....

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inner oak
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I love a good Lab

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One thing some don't know is that they can be trained to point as well

cinder mist
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It would be so attractive to be able to have the opportunity to have different types of hunting dogs.

There are so many different types of hunting dogs that are used for different types of hunting like for example the "Beagle" that was used for fox hunting in England.

You aslo have the "Swedish White Moose Dog", along with the "Norwegian Moose Dog". that obviously are used for hunting moose.

Also you got different types of dog breeds that are used for hunting birds, like the "Gordon Setter".

And the "Rhodesian Ridgeback" that comes from South-Africa that´s been used to hunt lions.

"Alaskan Malamute" are also very typical for hunting cause of their high hunting instinct.

I think it would be nice to be able to choose what kind of hunting dog you would prefer to have, in stead of just having just one type of dog breed.

Another thing that would be amazing to add as well is that the dogs could bring you small animals by carrying it in the mouth, like birds or rabbits and other animals among that size!

And other things that would be super nice to add as well is:

Collars or even collars with gps tracking to the phone.

Vests or some sord of reflective vest that the dog can wear to appear more clearly as they blend sometimes easly in with nature cause of the fur color, something that hunters often use on dogs. Also you got the dog backpack/saddle bag that makes the dog carry things on the travel like first aid kits, and other things that can be used for hunting.

I am happy to share the suggestion and more then happy to see others opinion about it!

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cinder mist
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Would also be really nice to use dogs to travel aurond in stead of the transport that are being used now, its super loud and noisy, I do rather listen to dogs barking, and it feels more wild and among nature using dogs to pull a sled or a wheel wagon. Would be cool if you could also have a extra person to sit in the sled/wagon!

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cinder mist
lean canyon
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Bear Hound

Yes, we all know, the animals in the game cannot climb trees since they have no hit points.
BUT, what if they could "install them"?
As I mentioned before in the "Possible squirrel mechanics" thread #1076197895927234660 message, theoretically the animals (or at least the geese and ducks) can use the hit points from the Tree Stands, so if we could Spray Mark 1 or 2 trees suitable for the placement of Tree Stands to "enable" them (placing a kind of invisible support structure) so that the animals climb on them then I would only have to send the dog to chase the animal until it climbs the marked tree ..

It will be a little complicated to do but basically the Marked Tree would work like a Scent Lure currently does with a field of action within 350m of the render range, BUT only attracting an animal in a "Fleeing" state previously Selected by the Hound Bear...
(Applicable to Black Bears, Pumas, Bobcats and Raccoons that can legally hunt with this modality)

I know, this is not a very natural and realistic mechanic of hunting with bear hounds, but it is a possibility considering the limitations of the game.
I also know that some will say "that will make hunting too easy", but actually it is no different than placing a hunting structure near a need zone to stand on it and wait for the animal to arrive..

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inner oak
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we just need a few more to get this over 100. Where are all my Dog lovers?

inner oak
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Made it to 100 !!! lets keep up the pressure !! We need all kinds of Dogs types and breeds ... If you want to customize your weapons you should also want to customize your dog ....

inner oak
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Add a little more variety to dog training .... especially if we have multiple types and breed's. There should be a branch in the training tree for the type of Dog you want to train .... Tracker, retriever or pointer. Would also be cool if you could have a hybrid trained dog. For example a pointer that will also retrieve or a tracker that will also retireve ... The hybrid trained Dogs wil be less effective in doing a certain task than a dog that is trained to do only one ....

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Also how about a specialized pointer training branch because most pointers are trained to point a specific type of bird ..... So I might have multiple pointer dogs depending on what I want to hunt .... Pheasents, grouse, Ptarmigans, quail, capercaillies ... These should all require a specialized pointer trained to find just that specific bird ....

stark flax
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Since a lot of people want dogs, I will bump this up

paper sky
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I am also for different breeds of dogs for different uses. Big fan of the idea of wolf hounds as a companion dog

stark flax
paper sky
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Probably? I was moreso meaning the tech does exist. Though idk if CotW engine can manage it

stark flax
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I do also recall only certain trees allow for the creatures in Ark to climb it like those Giant Redwoods (always hated flying in the redwoods for a reason)

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stark flax
paper sky
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I've flown through trees and gotten micro raptor'd

inner oak
# paper sky I am also for different breeds of dogs for different uses. Big fan of the idea o...

Guard/Protector Dogs .... Better than another type of dog with just the primary protector skill ...

Here you go.... Wolf Hounds are used for chasing but also as protectors.... Your post got me thinking about how we might implement this breed into the game. So of the types of Dogs we would like to have we already have blood trackers, retrievers and pointers but would also like to see guard and chase dogs . In addition a wolf hound as well as some other breeds can be used as a guard Dog. The Guard Dog will prevent other aggressive predators from attacking you. So if you are on a map where there are aggressive predators around, you might want to take your guard dog with you ....

At lower levels of skill they would be better at deterring dangerous animals than the other types that only have the protector skill ... but they would only mitigate/reduce damage received ...... but at the higher skill levels they would completely protect the hunter from any damage with maybe a very slight chance of receiving damage....

Choosing guard dog as a secondary skill would be about the same as an untrained Dog with just the protector skill ....

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paper sky
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Only down side is there is a dog spec already that growls and wards off aggros

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So would it be more in depth?

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The specific breed/dog has a higher impact?

inner oak
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I dont find the current dog does much to ward of aggressives .... so maybe give the guard dogs an additional ability to prevent aggressives from attacking you. Maybe they can draw aggro away from the hunter onto themselves or some similar mechanic ....

inner oak
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I would really like to show EW that they can make money selling dlc with different dog breeds. Weapons customization doesn't really excite me but if I can customize my dog for each hunt that would be awesome....

paper sky
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It's nice to have multiple dogs, but if they have essentially the same functionality (companion, tracking skill to a degree, and predator awareness to a degree) it'd be awfully annoying (and costly) to spend the same amount we all did for the bloodhounds for EVERY type of dog

inner oak
# paper sky Running with this thought - like $1.50/dog or like $3.99/4.99 for several dogs?

yeah I was thinking pretty much the same.... Maybe 2.99 for a single breed or 4.99 for 2 breeds of Dog. Then change the training tree to let me train my dog to track, point retrieve or guard . We already have a tracking tree. It would really mean just selecting a different tree. Then Maybe for 1.50 something like a weapon cosmetic pack but for dogs that let me change fur type for a breed I already own.

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I'll let the devs set the price ... that really depends on how much work it takes them to do a different dog type

inner oak
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Introducing the Vizsla

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Hungarian Vizslas are versatile hunting dogs that carry attributes from all three categories, making them one of the most popular breeds for the sport. Vizslas are ideal hunting dogs, and they also happen to be great family dogs. The Hungarian Vizsla hunting dog has roots that go as far back as the 10th century. These dogs would run alongside their masters, Magyar hunters, as they traveled by horseback. Unlike other hunting dog breeds, were kept as companion dogs of the Hungarian aristocracy. Hunting is in their bloodline, and Vizslas continue to be the perfect gun dogs for several reasons.

inner oak
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Jaxy mentioned dogs in stream yesterday ... I really think we are getting close... Let them know that we dont just want one type of dog but we want different hunting breeds as well

inner oak
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Another great breed ... The Duck tolling retriever

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The ‘Toller’ is a medium-sized retriever with a thick, water repellent coat, soft undercoat and webbed feet. Ranging from a light orange to a deep red and moderately feathered around the ears, chest, and backs of legs. The Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever features a magnificent waving tail, usually with a white tip, and may have white markings on the feet and face. This is a bright, alert and active little retriever, full of fun but capable of working hard all day.

tulip brook
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That would be a very pretty dog.

dusty arrow
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Yea having different breeds for different hunting styles would be great

sterile pond
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Maybe some smaller breeds could dig into rabbit burrows that have rabbits in them and either spook them out or bring a kill out.

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Bloodhounds track blood. So what if maybe beagles could track a regular tracks like footprints.

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Coonhounds could obviously chase racoons for us and tree them. Just like how they do in real life

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and of course a pointer is a classic

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A pointer could be given a command to point at a target and keep that animal constantly highlighted as long as it continues to point at them. Perfect for animals that are hidden or move in dense bushes and take cover behind trees that you can't keep highlighted for long. It could also track an animal and point at them too.

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They would also be great at flushing birds like the pheasant out since they fulfill that role in real life. Way more fun than us running at the birds to flush them in the game.

sterile pond
# paper sky It's nice to have multiple dogs, but if they have essentially the same functiona...

Whatever different kinds of breeds of new hunting dog they could hypothetically add could all be in one big DLC pack I'd like to call it the "Hunters Best Friends" pack.

The breeds could fall under 3 classes. Tracker. Retreiver. and Chaser. Each breed would have upsides and downsides. Like i said the beagle could maybe track regular tracks like footprints but couldn't track blood.

paper sky
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I feel that that would be a good divisor

sterile pond
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At the very least a retreiver and a pointer.

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Those are the dogs i think everyone has a consensus on

teal mulch
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A Retriever, A pointer (or spotting dog), A flusher and a Bailer I think would be good classes for the dogs and then EW could essentially add Skins so that you had a few dog breeds to choose in each class 👌🏻

vapid heart
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The Basenji. Would be a great addition due to them being a sighthound and scenthound.

Basenjis are really fast and agile. When it comes to hunting, their main job is to flush out prey and lead it into hunters’ nets. When it comes to smaller prey or animals slightly bigger than them, Basenjis are capable of killing the prey. Basenjis are bred to be hunting dogs and are used to flush out or corner a lion while human hunters take the lion down.

They have a strong prey drive Some will be more aggressive than others but the prey drive is in all.

Fantastic all round breed for the African map or any map. German pointer I think is a all round favourite 😅

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sinful prism
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Could be nice with diffrent spicies of labs like formel 1 and retriever
or springer spaniel

inner oak
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Introducing a cold weather breed ... The Norwegian Elkhound ....

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The Norwegian elkhound's history reaches back thousands of years to perhaps as long ago as 5000 BC. Since then, these hardy dogs have served their human companions as hunters of big game, including the elk and Moose from which the breed derives its name.

However, the Norwegian elkhound's hunting skills are not limited to elk and Moose. These dogs can hunt badgers, lynx, mountain lions, bears, wolves, reindeer and rabbits. They also are prized flock guardians, watchdogs and sled dogs.

Although the breed is strong and hardy, the dogs typically have an inseparable bond with their masters and are quite loyal. All Elkhounds have a sharp loud bark which makes them suitable as watchdogs.

sinful prism
vapid heart
teal mulch
tough herald
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Dude I’d take elkhound even if it just sat around they are such cool dogs

sterile pond
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I think we're asking for way too many breeds ya'll i think we should just narrow it down to a retrieving dog, a pointer and bird flushing dog, and possibly a chasing dog.

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There's no way they'd be able to add every one of these breeds ya know

inner oak
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@sterile pond My expectation are that they not put every dog in one dlc pack ... I leave that up to the devs to decide. But I would be happy to pay a reasonable dlc fee for a different dog breed that I can add to my kennel . This is like customizing your character and buying any other cosmetic. As for trackers, pointers, retrievers, guard dogs or chase dogs different breeds should be able to perform these skills at different levels depending on the breed. ie some dogs do things better than others .....

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So to begin with I would expect they would create wire frame animations for 4 different sizes of Dog. small, medium, large and XL. Then when ever they wish to produce a new dog breed dlc they create a skin for that specific breed that fits the appropriate wire frame for that size of Dog.....

inner oak
visual tide
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The Brittany is an amazing bird hunting dog really suggest it

sinful prism
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Dogs for racoon hunting

inner oak
lean canyon
visual tide
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delicate fog
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Bump

sudden glen
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Nice

lyric grove
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It would be so slick to have different skill trees for different dogs. base dog would all be similar but some trees could be focused on retrieving, some on blood tracking, some on alertness, some on protection...and an all rounder like an aussie shepherd that was decent at lots but not great at any one thing

stark flax
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Bumping this up so people can find it

sudden glen
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Gathering dogs should have arrived with the revontulli coast reserve, as most of the reserve's animals are birds.

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teal mulch
harsh vortex
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I would like Retrievers added.

glacial wolf
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Since I'm the blessed owner of a Wirehaired Standard Dachshund, I would LOVE to see that breed added. They are formidable scenthounds.

vapid heart
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Do devs check the suggestions out of curiosity

remote nebula
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bump

fiery pine
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East siperian Laika for Moose and bear. Dog locate moose and bear by tracking by ground tracks or sniffing from air. And Karelian bear dog same.

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fiery pine
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And with setters and pointers you could use garmin astro location system also with moose and bear hunting dogs

inner oak
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bump for dogos

feral loom
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bump

stark flax
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8 more away from 200

bright turret
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Just 6 now

bright turret
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2 left

feral loom
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bump

tough herald
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1!

fiery pine
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🫡

vapid heart
stark flax
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And from the looks of it we are one away from 200 (at the time I am typing this out)

tough herald
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202!

remote nebula
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205

vapid heart
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🤔

remote nebula
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211

inner oak
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And they call it ??

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tough herald
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Bump

stark flax
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Bump

sudden glen
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Bump

feral loom
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Bump

balmy kraken
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Bump

sudden glen
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Bump

lean canyon
stark flax
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Bump

proven pebble
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This is one of the realest post ive seen

hoary kraken
wooden jetty
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harbulopo

remote nebula
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Gg boys

rugged parrot
wooden jetty
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reminds me of a dog

proven pebble
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oga boga

sudden glen
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Ok ty, but i need more dogs >:) CONGRATS

lean canyon
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Bump

rugged parrot
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I think we won't be getting a new dog till 2025 lol

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inner oak
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what kind of dog is that ... what breed

wooden jetty
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we need a pitbull to take down hogs and small animals

inner oak
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Not sure if they will add dogs that actually bring down other animals but the pitbull could be a guard dog used to ward off aggressive predators

valid forge
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All around dogs

sudden glen
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Please don't make us wait another 2 years to get this little guy in the game!

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rugged parrot
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But I have a STRONG feeling we're getting a new Lodge DLC in 2024

inner oak
lean canyon
thorny marsh
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American Britney, they can point and retrieve game birds and rabbits

inner oak
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Loving the lab (thanks EW!!) but we ALSO need pointers as well as other breeds of dogs for tracking, retrieving and pointing .... Call it a doggy DLC ....

faint void
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Breeds that I put into suggestions a couple years ago were:

TRAILING BREEDS (tracks as current bloodhound )
Coonhound
Bloodhound

EARTH DOGS (can go down rabbit holes and get them to run out, this would also place a purpose for adding in other burrowing species)
Cairn Terrier
Standard Dachshund

FLUSHING DOGS (runs through a field to spook quarry IE pheasants)
Boykin Spaniel
German Wirehaired pointer

WATER RETRIEVING DOGS (pull in waterfowl from lakes)
Labrador Retriever (now in game!)
Standard poodle

GUARDING DOGS (alert to aggressive animals and actively deter attacks)
West Siberian laika
Dogo argentino

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ALL AROUND DOGS( do bassically everything on previous list + more)
Weimaraner longhaired
German( longhaired wirehaired shorthaired) pointer

inner oak
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I don't think one breed/type that does everything will happen ... This is why you are limited in loadouts ... If you had one loadout that would work for every hunt then what would be the purpose of anything else? ........ Dog hunting types should kind of be like load outs where you choose the equipment or the dog for that specific hunt. ..... Dog breeds should work kind of like outfits or cosmetics where you like or want a dog that looks a certain way ... So maybe if I'm hunting in a specific region or a specific climate I will choose a dog breed that is native to that region .

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For example when I am hunting in Medved it looks a little strange to have my short haired bloodhound ... So why not a blood tracking dog that is native for that environment .... different dog breeds just add more variety .... This could also be done as a DLC where you can purchase a different skin for tracking dog that changes it from a bloodhound to a Norwegian Elk hound ... It just adds more immersion and flavor to the game

inner oak
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Still here ... gives us a bump ...258

inner oak
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261 .... The Ultimate Cosmetic

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Dog breeds and Types (Customize your hunter look )

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inner oak
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I think I would rather have a frenchie than an Easter egg cosmetics on my rifle .... just saying

inner oak
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Let me customize my hunt with a diff dog breed ... At least I can see the dog ...267

sterile storm
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I feel we should be able to have the bloodhound and the retriever with us on a hunt. This would enable the hunter to switch between dogs on the go without having to return to a tent.

inner oak
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time for a bump ... Dog breed DLC would be most welcome 270

inner oak
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More Dog breeds and types .... Introducing the American Pitt Bull ... Could be added to the tracker line or the protection line as discussed in this thread ....

See here for specifics of how Guard dogs might work .... #1071107633571963031 message

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inner oak
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How about a Mastiff as a guard Dog .... We already have Blood Tracker types and Retriever Types .... Now we just need pointer types, Chase types , and the Guard Types ... Guard/Protector types could be used to ward off aggressive animals. Specially trained guard dogs like pit bulls, wolf hounds and Mastiffs would be much more effective in protecting the hunter than the current Dogs will .... 273 ....
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Chase type dogs would work similar to this post here https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070641304255598602

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inner oak
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Lets not forget the dogos ... They are and can be the ultimate useful and Cosmetic hunting companions ... 275....

inner oak
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🐕 🐩

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Another great breed the Boykin Spaniel ... A smaller Spaniel breed the Little brown swamp dog can be a pointer/flusher or retriever

At first glance, the Boykin Spaniel resembles the class American Water Spaniel (AWS), but there are notable physical differences. The American Water Spaniel weighs between 25 and 45 pounds and stands 15 to 18 inches tall. However, the Boykin Spaniel weighs between 25 and 40 pounds and stands 14 to 18 inches tall. The biggest difference between the AWS and Boykin is their respective coats. AWS coats can have either marcel (uniform waves) to a curly, thick coat that sustains the dog in the colder climates. Boykins, on the other hand, has a coat that can range from flat and slightly wavy curly hair.

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inner oak
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How about a Dachshund as a scent hound / Tracker ?

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inner oak
whole crown
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I was just thinking of a new use rather than just another scent hound

inner oak
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@whole crown ... sure we already have a scent hound ... but I'm looking at different dog breeds as another cosmetic option like the clothes you wear or the type of weapon you choose to hunt with ....

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inner oak
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I knew they were originally bred and used to hunt badgers but I never thought of them as a tracking Dog until I hunted with a friend who had one.

We shot a deer late in the afternoon right before dark and never was able to find it. The next day we came back with his Dachshund and the dog found it with no problem …. So yeah made a believer out of me

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faint void
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Pitbulls and mastiff and wolfhounds are not good modern guards against wildlife. Wolfhounds are pretty much just pets now. You want a nice thick coat and grit like in LGD breeds that regularly go up against large predators.

inner oak
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@faint void I fully endorse other breeds like LGD (livestock guard Dogs )... So yes a dlc showcasing a great Pyrenees or Komondor would be fantastic... They would both be great guard dog types .... Once they add the code/AI for how the Guard Dog type will work in game then the look of the Dog is really cosmetic ....

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With one of the most striking appearances of all dogs, the Komondor is an ancient and relatively rare breed that traces its origins back to Hungary.

These dogs are known to be very territorial and form strong bonds with their flock—both animals and humans. They tend not to wander and instead stay close to the livestock and people they are guarding, making them ideal as livestock guardians.

The heavy white cords that make up the Komondor’s unusual coat help the dogs blend in with the sheep they guard and serve to protect against extremes of weather as well as predators.

faint void
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lol. Komondor would rot in the field with those cords. It’s all dead coat that molds in rain. Plus they absolutely wander.

tough herald
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I’d love to see Catch Dogs (it would only be for feral hogs for example and maybe black bears).

green prism
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My dog Travis seems to be more protective against Aggressive animals, barking and lunging more noticeably, if his Bond is at Best Friend before the attack. Just like any dog is more responsive to find and track a blood trail if he's at Best Friend. He also has the Brave Trait. dogZen

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quartz zealot
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Hunting tigers with dog in Sundarpatan: 1️⃣ Bloodhound 2️⃣ Retriever 3️⃣ None, I am with the Human Player 4️⃣ They do not help me hunting tigers

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I would like to see the content creators do some demos experimenting with different breeds and different skill settings.
@tribal forge @sweet hare @stark sky @jade sluice @azure hinge How about it? 😂
Okay, don't kill me for tagging you all! 💀

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tribal forge
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id love different dogs to be added

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tribal forge
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see what i can do 😉

sweet hare
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Tibetan Mastiffs and Snow Leopard

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inner oak
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Spanish Masiff, the ally of farmers against the spread of the Iberian wolf.

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Also don't forget the Cane Corso .... Smart, trainable, and of noble bearing, the assertive and confident Cane Corso is a peerless protector. The Corso's lineage goes back to ancient Roman times, and the breed's name roughly translates from the Latin as 'bodyguard dog.'

At nearly 28 inches at the shoulder and often weighing more than 100 pounds, with a large head, alert expression, and muscles rippling beneath their short, stiff coat, Corsi are at a glance intimidating creatures. Their imposing appearance is their first line of defense against intruders.

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How to act if you are walking and encounter a Mastiff on the path. Knowing how to act if we encounter a Mastiff will prevent more than one scare. Sorry for the Spanish Language

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So i don't really know what this is called in English but the way you can do this in the hunter. Is you find a track of an animal any animal and you set your tracker dog to track it. And you just stay wherever you are or go in a hunting stand or something and the dog tracks the animal and when it finds it it scares the animal and runs after it chasing it and leading it to you. And you have a GPS so you know where the dog is so when it is close you know you should get ready to shoot the animal. and there can be different type of dogs for different classes of animals.

like the small orange dog i actually have one in real life but that's not the point i think that dog can hunt maybe classes 1-3 and those two medium sized dogs can hunt classes 4-6 and the Norwegian moose dog can hunt 7-9

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I have a suggestion (that will never be implemented because the devs don't like replacing/improving previously done work, but anyway)

The game should offer a series of "Types" of hunting dogs - Setting/Pointing dogs, Retrievers, Driving dogs, Tracking dogs, and Protector dogs. There could also be Chase & Kill dogs specializing in going after various sizes of game, but the devs & community seem opposed to that.

Setting/Pointing dogs should help the player locate game that is hidden in cover, yowling, lying down facing it, and spotting it for the player. The player should be able to somehow pick the game they want their dog to point out. After a creature has been spotted (either by the player through the standard way or by the dog through this new mechanic), the player can choose to tell the dog to "flush" the prey, causing it to run/fly away as appropriate.

Retrievers should do exactly what the name suggests, retrieve small game and return it to hand for the player. This type is already in game as the Labrador Retriever.

Driving dogs should work with the player by chasing and herding specific prey (that can be selected by spotting it or selecting its trail) toward the player, barking all the while to allow the player to keep track of the dog (and the prey it is following)'s location. If the devs add a functionality that allows animals to climb trees, the dog could instead be told to tree certain climbing animals.

Tracking dogs sould do exactly what the name implies: track prey for the player. The Bloodhound in the game already does this, but because it can only track blood trails, it has extremely situational usefulness. Tracking dogs should instead be able to help the player track trails, irrespective of whether the prey is bleeding, but becoming more fast & accurate if the prey is injured.

Protector dogs should, well, protect the player from dangerous big game, barking and snarling at incoming dangerous animals to scare them off.

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within these overarching types, the player should be able to pick whatever appropriate breed to the role they want. For example, the player could pick a Doberman for protection, or a Springer Spaniel for driving, or a German Pointer for pointing, etc.

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certain breeds should be able to be selected for different roles (for example, the German Shepherd would probably excel both in protection and in driving, and should be available for those roles, but lack the soft mouth for retrieving, and so shouldn't be available for that role)

for the sake of the coders and game balance, though, the same dog shouldn't be able to fill different roles, at least not simultaneously (maybe the player can be given the option to tell the dog to switch what role they're in?)

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Here is another great breed highlight … I'm talking about the amazing Pudelpointer....

The Pudelpointer is a calm, self-controlled, versatile gun dog with a distinct hunting instinct. In his native country of Germany, he has always ranked high in performance tests and in the field. This breed is enjoyed and valued for its desire and drive.
The Pudelpointer originated in Germany, created by crossing the Poodle with the Pointer. A versatile, genetically sound and healthy gun dog emerged from this cross and the breed is useful for all kinds of work in the fields, woods and water. His coat can be wire-haired, smooth/short, or rough and his coat color ranges from light brown to black. He may also have small white markings.

The breed weighs between 44 and 66 lb (20 and 30 kg), stands 21 to 26 in (53 to 66 cm) at the shoulder, and comes in liver, chestnut, and occasionally black coats. The ideal coat is harsh, wiry, and dense. The dogs shed very little.

This Dog makes a great pointer and retriever ….

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Getting close to the 300 hump .... 295 ...

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Poodle for retrieving!

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almost to the 300 Hump! Make it so !!! ... 298

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Over the 300 hump !!! ... Lets keep it going ... 306 9/6

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Breed Highlight The American Beagle .... This is the Ultimate Chase Dog ...

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small hound dog breed popular as both a pet and a hunter.

It looks like a small foxhound and has large brown eyes, hanging ears, and a short coat, usually a combination of black, tan, and white.

The Beagle is a solidly built dog, heavy for its height. It generally excels as a rabbit hunter and is typically an alert, affectionate dog.
https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070641304255598602

There are two sizes recognized in the breed: Beagles standing 13 inches (33 cm) or less at the withers and weighing under 20 pounds (9 kg) and those standing more than 13 inches but not exceeding 15 inches (38 cm) at the withers and weighing 20 to 30 pounds (9 to 14 kg).

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credit for this idea goes to @frigid cloud .... back packs for Dogs .... Some larger breeds dogs can be equipped with small back packs … This would be equivalent to the smallest back pack for a human …

I have added some additional features of my own .....

This would only be available for the larger breeds of dogs and possibly only allowed on dogs of the protector class ….

A dog back pack would Increase the hunters overall inventory capacity.... so possibly 3 to 6 points of storage for smaller items ... (scents, callers, med kit ... etc ) ... this provides lots of options for the hunter to choose from ...

They can have the dog carry a few items or could have a back pack for themselves and the dog. .... He could do this instead of using the perk that allows him to carry more weight …

Again lots of options …. Of course there must always be a trade off so this would diminish the dogs ability to protect the hunter from an attack …. Even when used as a secondary skill.

Adding to this post there must always be a trade offs so if you train your dog to wear a back pack then they may be able to point but not retrieve... They might also lose loyalty faster than a dog not wearing a back pack ... This means you will have to feed it more and watch it closer than dogs with other skills .....

Other thoughts to consider ... wearing a back pack or carrying a large amount of weight will seriously affect the dogs ability to perform any secondary skills ...

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Dog breeds and Types (Customize your hunting experieince )

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Okay while we are waiting on a new type of dog .... hint hint Pointers anyone??? ..... EW can be adding a new breeds of dogs for the types that we already have .... More breeds for trackers and retrievers .... This would not involve any new mechanics for tracking and retrieving because they are already in the game .... This would just be more or less cosmetic for the same size dog ....

Again devs this would be a great way to way to add DLC to the game ...... Many players would pay for a different breed of tracking Dog ... Or a different breed of retriever ....

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I think unifying dog abilities and then adding a bunch of dog skins would be an easy way to do things.

Let me hunt with a Pomeranian and a chihuahua. Those who want realism can keep the real hunting dog skins.

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Hell, could add a Niche ability for small dogs to flush burrowing rabbits if we don't want to unify abilities.

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atleast they used commonly to flush out animals that hide in burrows

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Yeah i would love to hunt with a little sausage dog.

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IRL Wiener dogs and Jack Russel's make good trackers .... 324

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The German Short Haired Pointer and the Boykin Spaniel i think would be great bird dogs to add to the game.my opinion.

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Were getting the GSP (german shorthaired pointer) ladys and gents, can't wait for dec 3rd! 331 lets gooooo

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The Pointer is definitely the next dog type that needs to be added .... But I'm so hyped about the expert dog skills that allow a Dog to be trained in more than one skill ..... Maybe I'm getting my hopes too high but I see the expert skills as a move toward dog breed DLC's when you can have multiple breeds as well as types of Dogs ....

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🐕 trackers (dogs like the bloodhound )
🐕 retrievers (like the Lab )
🐕 pointers (points upland birds and retrieves when shot )
🐕 Chase dogs (think beagles hunting rabbits or foxhounds ... a good example of how this might work can be found here https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070641304255598602
🐕 Guard Dogs (large breeds that defend the hunter from predator attacks mitigating damage )
🐕 Storage carrying Dogs (Med to large breed dogs that are trained to wear a back pack allowing them to carry smaller items for the hunter ... more details in this post here #1071107633571963031 message

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Will the German short hair pointer have the option for a docked tail?

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So i looked back on the notes for the pointer and I'm a little disappointed with some of the fur types. GSP markings are good though, but while when some think of the gsp they may think of that liver or brownish color on them, but the AKC considers Black as a color too. While I'm sure EW doesn't have the time to do all the markings plus a different color with those markings, I do hope that they (in a future update or see this before the 3rd [x to doubt XD]) Release some of those coats to keep it a bit more personal.

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Also 336!!!!!

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Here's hoping we will get some Dog dlc with additional coats as well as additional breeds of Dogs ....

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The Siberian Laika, Rhodesian Ridgeback, The Plott Hound, or the Norwegian Elkhound.

You make the choice for your next dangerous game hunt

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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here but having a sled you can equp on the dogs would be cool too, having a mechanic that some dogs pull the sled better then others, being a way for the developers to gain money to make us more awesome dlcs, but also to keep it realistic.

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@EW great job with the pointer .... Now that we have 3 types of Dogs how about some other dog skins to simulate different breeds ... Dog Breed DLC .... Also think about some other dog types mentioned in this thread like Chase Dogs (https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070641304255598602) and Guard dogs that excel at protecting the hunter ....

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If we can get more Northern Snow reserves over Fall & Spring reserves, I'd gladly accept an Akita for C:3-8 predator game hunts if coyotes & bobcat are properly reclassed, if not C:2-8 predators. Mechanically: Tracks & stand-offs predators in a similar fashion to the pointer that locks down class: 1 game. This in turn would provide EW a means to revisit predator AI behaviors & Model reworks. As for the engagement it would follow suite with the defensive trait.

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• Akita: is a Japanese dog breed of large size. Originating from the mountains of northern Japan, the Akita has a short double coat similar to that of many other northern spitz breeds. Historically, they were used by matagi for guarding and the hunting of bears.

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what if they added a curly coated retriever version of lab?? where like it could swim in deeper waters to retrieve waterfowl (havent played in a while, unsure if labs can swim...) it could also serve as a flusher for waterfowl when theyre like in the reeds
idk jus an idea

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Labs in game are super swimmers

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Also with the update you can have your max level pointer/flusher learn to be a retriever.

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doggies yes please

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Right now we have these Dog Type suggestions that have been or could still be integrated into the game ...

🐕 trackers (dogs like the bloodhound ) 👍
🐕 retrievers (like the Lab ) 👍
🐕 pointers (points upland birds and retrieves when shot ) 👍

Below are some additional types to be added:

🐕 Chase dogs (think beagles, foxhounds, bear or Hog dogs ) ... a good example of how this might work can be found here https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1070641304255598602
🐕 Guard Dogs (Large breeds that defend the hunter from predator attacks mitigating damage ) . More details here #1071107633571963031 message
🐕 Storage carrying Dogs (Med to large breed dogs that are trained to wear a back pack allowing them to carry smaller items for the hunter ... more details in this post here #1071107633571963031 message
🐕 Also dogs trained for transportation as seen in this post #1088062419072466964 message

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👆 Of the types listed above many different breeds could be added which would be mostly cosmetic but would allow each player to customize the look as well as the type of hunt they are targeting .....

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Honestly I think the chase dogs would be the one that has both of thsoe wants, with customization and type of hunt. When i read type of hunt for hunting with a dog i think of a dog that will specifically go after one certain animal. The sled dogs are more for travelling silently, the storage carrying dogs are more for carrying stuff, and guard dogs are to help with the tigers and the damn wolves (i have my own personal beef there with the wolves). And I think all these ideas could be integrated to some of the dog breeds we have now. While a Labrador, stereotypically speaking, isn't much of a dog that will fend off predators, it would be a good dog for sledding and backpacking. Adds a bit more realism to what we have on certain breeds. Maybe certain breeds pull a sled a lot faster then other breeds. With the chase dogs I think we could do a lot more then just rabbits, with ideas such as coon hunting, hog hunting, fox hunting. Even some smaller breeds like jagd or jack russel or dachsund for going into the rabbit holes and chasing them out. With the dogs theres a lot to be expanded and a lot of great things we can do, both with how it helps us hunt, whether its traversing the terrain, holding some scent elminators or other small items we may need, treeing that pesky raccoon we saw in our trash can, or keeping those wolves at bay, to customizing more things we already have, different retrievers, pointers, and scent hounds, to adding new breeds we may already know and love, but also breeds that not many people have common knowledge of and be a way to show this uncommon breed to help save it like the chinook, norweigian lundehund, otterhound, and the harrier. i've studied dog breeds my whole life and do find this poll as a passion because it's such a great game, and the creators do try to make us more aware with problems such as poaching rhinos or russian yetis being about. also 349!!!!!!!

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EW imagine the DLC potential of more dog breeds added to the game....

More Dog breeds that can be trained to use the already existing skills (tracker, retriever and pointer ) ....

This would be the ultimate cosmetic DLC ... Let us choose the breed of Dog we would like to hunt with ... Many of those breeds are highlighted here in this thread..... 💰 💵 💰

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There's GOLD in that there fur!!! ... 349

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Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but a Texas Blue Lacy, black mouth cur, or catahoula leopard dog would be my dream

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Blue lacy

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Okay Devs great Job 👍 on the tracker, the retriever and the pointer skills .... The pointer skill could still use a little tweaking but Now it's time to add some additional breeds that we can use with those skills ....

We can customize our hunt by choosing the dog we want to hunt with ... Lots of dog breeds that are good trackers as well as retrievers and pointers .... Give us some different breeds to hunt with ....

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Hoping devs will see the DLC potential in more dog breeds and hunting skills .... 351

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long time no see ... 351

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been awhile since i've seen any dog reccomendations so i thought i'd drop one. It goes along with that one about catch dogs. I'm not sure if it has been mentioned or anything but if so shoutout to the person who mentioned them, but the dogo argentino. It's a bit stockier then pit bulls, and have beautiful markings that would make it easy to see when hunting hogs and stuff in places such as mississippi, te awroa, etc. Maybe not so much in Medved since all the snow, but as most of us stated, we want gear to add to the dogs, collars, vests, which would be essential with catch dogs personally for there protection. I also think that they should maybe open up the expanded dog traits (i genuinely forgot the name of it) up to three, nothing overkill but a little more usefullness with different options. I also think select breeds should have the hardcore guarding trait, i've seen tibetan mastiffs and other LGD dogs mention and i think they're good ideas, but only so many breeds i think should protect you from tigers, lions, wolves, etc. just to keep a could balance on it that way. An example being if they were to add Dachsunds for burrowing related mechanics, if you took it to Sunderpatan, realistically it wouldn't scare a tiger away from you, as tough as the wiener dog is. also 353!!!!

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Any unconventional hunting dogs you want in the game, and why? Aka dog breeds that aren’t normally thought of when it comes to hunting dogs

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This is a big hear me out BUT, border collie, i have one who helps me find sheds, he's such a good boy, and i think for right now with the mechanics we have a border collie can more or less do. PLUS if they add a new shed mechanics to bring back sheds into some of the newer maps, there would be another skill dogs can learn to alert you to a shed

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I think the idea is that you should be able to have whatever breed of dog you want .... You just marry a certain hunting skill with the breed you want within reason of course ... a Dachshund guard dog for instance might be a stretch ... but a Border Collie is a small to medium size dog that could be trained to track or retrieve ......

The breed of the dog would be mostly cosmetic and sold to players as a DLC item .... So that would be the only thing preventing EW from adding a border collie to the game .... That is how well it would sell as DLC .....

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Okay we have trackers, retrievers and pointers .... So now we need another skill .....

The other skills proposed in this thread are chase dogs, guard Dogs, storage carrying dogs and sled pulling dogs for transportation ....

You can find details on how these skills could work in the OP here: #1071107633571963031 message

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As a musher I just can’t see a fit for sled dogs except on taiga

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also for sled dogs you wouldn't just purchase a single dog but a dog team that would only be used for pulling a sled

I see the sled speed as being slower than ATV but faster than running on foot ....

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Im not saying for terrain, but for temperatures. If its over 60, generally dogs dont run.

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# faint void Im not saying for terrain, but for temperatures. If its over 60, generally dogs ...

Of course IRL temperature must always be taken into consideration with any animal that pulls a wagon or a sled ..... Also any animal that is ridden or used as a pack animal ... The hotter the temps they more that will need to be rested ...

But honestly all of those considerations are outside the scope of this game ....

So dog sleds could be used on most any reserve in this game .....

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It would look ridiculous to be running dogs in areas they'd clearly be getting heat stroke in. Its obviously not IRL, but something like a bike could cover distance/noise the same way.

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# faint void It would look ridiculous to be running dogs in areas they'd clearly be getting h...

ridiculous possibly from your standpoint ... but I cant see EW adding another transportation method and then restricting it to only one reserve ....

If bikes are more to your liking (assuming you mean pedal/electric ) then I believe there are other threads advocating for those .... I personally have no problems with them adding bikes ....

However with regard to bikes the situation would be somewhat the same .... It would look somewhat strange riding a bike on a map like MedVed .....

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fat bikes are literally made for snow

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Pitbull please

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Really hope to see this implemented one day. More doggos please!!

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Unsure if anyone has mentioned this but I would love to see Catahoulas, they are a pretty good hunting breed, especially for boars and deer, sometimes even bears and mountain lions if you'd believe it! Great dogs overall with a very distinct look.

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This is where a catch/bay dog could be implemented to hold an animal still for a time

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