#š¦ļø“great-ones
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Another odd thing I have noticed is I have gone a lot further between diamonds
i still haven't gotten a single whitetail diamond
max weights are pretty rare on my map and i've never even seen a level 3
I had been getting them every 350ish kills now its like 500
you've been grinding a lot longer than me lol
i've only had this game for a couple months
Just keep at it one will spawn
yeah
wish we had another map for whitetail though
crawling around the same patches of trees in layton is getting a bit old lol
Me too Iām hopping the next map has them but I doubt it
when i get tired of it i just set my sights on a diamond of another species though and go somewhere else
same, i'm assumign the next map won't be in NA
Maybe next next map
yeah that'd be my assumption, the one after next will be another NA map and should have whitetail (although SRP doesn't obviously)
but there's not many more new huntable NA species they can add besides upland game birds and waterfowl
though if they do new zealand next they could have whitetail on that, though NZ's whitetail population is pretty small compared to other big game animals
They could add bobcats
And bring bacj axis deer
Id like to see dove and maybe squirrel hunting
They had squirrels beforr
Me want squirrels!!!!!
diamond squirrels
Squirrels lmao
I just think having another small game animal like rabbits wouldnt be too bad
Depends on the map
And personally, I think squirrels would be too small to be a good huntable animal in CotW
How about some species of ground squirrels
Still
@thorn vessel can you show us your need zones?
I think rabbits and pheasants are the smallest animals that would work
@merry sand itās not the best as I am away from my Xbox but these are all the ones I have from memory Iāve gotten over 2000, 1000 after the patch so I think thatās all of them. Hope it helps.
@thorn vessel thank you so much man, really appreciate it š
on facebook a guy shot a piebald great one
Did u see what variation it was @merry sand ?
@full cave not yet he will post the pic at the weekend
Oh. So nobodys actually seen it then?
Wait so is there a photo of itv9m facebook or did he just say he did
@vital geyser he posted under another users photo of a great one that he found a great one as well two days ago and that its a piebald but hes not at home until weekend and will post the pic then
@thorn vessel sir i went to all the places you marked as zones and found lots of them as well on my map, thanks you so much
@merry sand awesome! Hopefully you will find a GO soon!
Well unless there's a pic and harvest screen its fake. There's been so many hacks and fakes. Sad its come to that. If he could post it on FB he couldve posted pics. And if he did shoot one hed k ow its not just a PIEBALD. thats actually the fabled one. So def fake
Again it just proves the point that if so many people go to such lengths to hack it or lie about it,its too rare. But just my opinion. Thats why I gave up. I can only play a few hours here and there. Maybe on a weekend I can spend several hours playing. So I consider myself the "average player". So meaning the odds of me finding one are about the same as winning the lottery. Its meant more for kids so to speak that can play for hours on end day after day. Being a full time working person its just a waste of time. Plus with all the issues that we know are actual "bugs" with WT I will not play until.theyre fixed. Meaning they dont have "footsteps",trophy ratings all messed up. Seems when a spaches TR doesnt work there def is issues with that given sources. History has proven that. After several hours of chasing them Ive heard WT make one call. In my opinion hunting WT right now is a waste of time. So I myself play other games or SRP cause the new mulies are the funnEST thing in the game right now unfortunately. Breaks my heart as an avid/obsessed WT hunter 8n real life. But same goes for ducks. I live in the marshes to chase mallards. But mallards in this game are a joke. Play HS2 for good bird action. As things are theres really no need to have mallards or any duck species in the game cause its far from real world duck hunting. They could remove that species and add something better/more realistic/ funner in their place.
Plus as a side note,there's a reason ducks arent included in super rares for a reason. Just eliminate them if its that bad. OR raise them to the same level as geese. Geese are actually performing "realistically" at least for a video game.
Play hunting sim 2 for bird action?
Yes. Hs2 bird huntings way funner compared to duck hunting in this game.
Play thehuhter classic for bird action, has the best water fowl hunting in my opinion, its fun and fast
I dont have that option. But we're getting off topic
The main topic here is somebody "said" they shot a piebald GO. Which is bs if they can post on FB but not show a pic. And call it a piebald. Thats not what theyre called. So whoever posted that is full of nonsense and not telling the truth.
Dont fall for it guys. The GO is rarer than before the patch.
We've seen 1,rumoured 2,since the patch in almost 3 months. Those numbers are way down from prepatch.
Yea like what @chalie? Whats rarer than a GO?
A piebald diamond lynx I would say
Since piebald lynxs are already close to the rarity of a go, so a diamond one would basically be the rarity of the great one
Well a diamond piebald one
Haha ok. If youre going to talk rares than u have to include rare GOs others wise youre comparing apples to oranges dude.
lynx are on a dlc not everyone cant hunt them

Melanistic wt and go have Same spawn rate
Ok 8ve seen more me la WT than goes
Gos rarity are just bullshit in my opinion
Hey something could still be broken with them
Itās just they spawn so rarely we donāt know
Too god damn rare for their own good
Ok. So I say melas are rare but theyre not. Yes something is broken.
I have a better chance getting 2 of the rarest animals in classic then killing a go in cotw
People say Iām gonna grind to get a go any cotw vet will say thatās not how it works cause your grind will probably take a years patience
Since piebald lynxs are already close to the rarity of a go, so a diamond one would basically be the rarity of the great one
@cold marten theres been like 3-4 piebald diamond lynx already and one of them was way back in the day and scored 1000
lol
Most rare diamonds are rarer than a GO
Well thats kinda true
dont really see how thats true especially now
I agree Ron. And comparing anything from classic to COTW is pointless. Its not even the same topic so to speak.
And considering how rare the GO is,banter like this is the only thing that keeps this chat alive. It should be for showing off GOs and what not. But its really only a chat for speculation and banter. Then every onve in a great,great while theres actually a GO posted.
Ive seen way more rare diamomds posted in super rares. So thats not really true either.
If GOs are harder to get now, imagine an albino or mela diamond WT
Oh yeah, if we talk about super rares in general then you will see a lot more
What do u mean? Ive seen severam of those compared to Gos lately
Yes
I've seen a lot more GOs
Ok. I'm not here to debate or argue. I havent seen that at all. Since the patch ive seen 1 GO. Heard theres 2 but have seen 1 myself. Whether here or other SM have seen more rare diamond WTs.
Yes there were a few more other GOs posted but they were on consoles that didnt have the patch.
I dont count them sinve they were pre patch.
They count, they seem to be broken now
Plus some of the GOs werent actually real just people trying to pass them off as there's. Unless I see the harvest screen I consider them fake. Which is unfortunate
Yup
Well not really. Just like you said they seem to be broken now. So if the console player didnt have the patch then they dont count cause just like you say theyre broken now. Thats why I dont consider pre patch GO count as accurate so to speak. There were more GOs pre patch but theyre almost nonexistent post patch.
That's all I'm saying
Theres def an issue with post patch WT. Which sucks.
yeah
ive been up and down all of layton and only have 3 wt zones
vs the 30+ i had
im still mad
Yep!! Me too!! I had 32 drink zones before. Ive found 12 on my "new map" so to speak
Like i they put the hours and effort to get It, if they are broken now that doesn't take away all the merit
Dang. Thats frustrating. I play console and I can't do anything with files. Even more frustrating :/ I used to be obsessed with the GO and WT. Not anymore. Lol
Hope they get fixed soon so everyone can have the opportunity
^
I def agree with you on that @wise crane. I can't even stomache the thought of WT in the game anymore. 1,I still need to take down all the setups I had pre patch and spent so ma y hours building up my map. 2 I need to build up my map from scratch again and sink in so many hours to do that. I really dont want to do that cause there's "maybe" a chance they fix WT and zones will be tossed all over again. So "just my feeling" that I'll waste so much RL time rebuilding only to have to rebuild again. So much "real life" wasted time only for EW to reset everything and to rebuild again. As far as a "real life hunting experience" its far from it. Just too much RL wasted time. I can't do that anymore. Id like to think my RL time will lead to something. After all its just a video game. Esp when I raise an issue and EW reps say "its just a video game" to me.
i agree its annoying to have nothing to show for playing
Domt get me wrong. The "concept" of the GO is cool. But being a RL hunter I know that the more time I spend,the greater the odds I habe of finding that Great Monster. But as far as the game goes its not the same.
ive been playing since they released the game at least give me the GO for that >:(
ive definitely put in the time and effort for it
Yes effort and loyalty should be rewarded in a video game!!!!
Exactly!!!!
Thats sucks a lot man, it's not worth it tbh. Just another dumb trophy. Still It will taste a lot better when you get him if you try again when fixed. Gl
Yeah, this game lacks that
like id be even happy with them upping the spawn percentage for the go
it'll give me incentive to actually hunt layton
i only go on there to continue my search for a diamond black bear
Yep. And the fact that theres 6 of them.is awesome but nonsense at the same time. A person could spend thousands of hours and years playing just to maybe find one. Nobody has any chance of finding multiple GOs. My feeling is that the GO was added for "hype" just to get people who are bored of the game to play again and not actually being able to achieve the goal of either finding one let alone all 6. Anybody whos chasing all 6 is living in a fantasy world. Hahahhaa Its never going to happen. Again just at the lottery cause I have better chances at that.
Pretty much. I just chase the new mulies now days. At least they're awesime and working correctly for the most part. Layton and how it works is so boring compared to SRP. But they'll adjust that soon and take the fun out of that soon enough.
Oh nice!!! Good luck!! They're way better than the RE on Layton. Laytons in my opinion the GO to map for rabbits and moose. Theyve seem to have taken over. Yes there's some good BT and Elk here and there. But since the patch seems to be infested with rabbits and moose.
Hahaha and was just talking to a friend who used to play COTW and theyre 100% correct about one thing. The original Nintendo "duck hunt" is 100 times better than the duck hunting in COTW š¹ So true,so true
And considering how rare the GO is,banter like this is the only thing that keeps this chat alive. It should be for showing off GOs and what not. But its really only a chat for speculation and banter. Then every onve in a great,great while theres actually a GO posted.
@full cave well frankly, if GOs were common enough that people in here were regularly showing off their GOs, then they wouldn't be special and there wouldn't be a purpose for this channel
we dont want them common
we just want a little higher chance
id be fine with like a 1% chance of getting one
even 1% seems high
that means 1 great one for every 100 whitetail you shoot
that'd be way too common frankly
but yeah i'd like if they were a bit more common than they are as well
for now i'll settle for a diamond, I haven't even seen a single level 3 whitetail in my layton ever
and i was grinding them fairly hard before the patch that threw their zones all over the place
You gotta remember the rares are 0.8 0.6 0.4
Piebald albino mela
In reality your go is about as rare as a mela whitetail but things affect that
e.g GO us is buck only, requires spawning in a high weight class etc
its crazy crazy low
almost like its meant to be really hard to get or something. imagine that...
not rude, stating facts
I believe especially realistically non typs are a bit more common than melanistics
eh i wouldnt go that far
idk its cool but its just not realistic therefore i no longer have the incentive and lose interest
same as a lot of other people
if you want realistic classic is the better game option
im not saying the game
im saying the chances of getting a non typical at .006
is not realistic, they're more common than people think
but whatever floats everyones goats its not my game so its just my opinion
:)
yes but its not just the fact its a non typical, its the fact its a great one. if they had introduced non typs you would also get small non typs.
the devs do look at the communities opinion though, the more opinions there are aired in here, on facebook etc the better idea they can get of what the community wants
yeah but i am also just one person
while i like they are listening (though im not too sure they listen to all of it) just because i say something doesnt mean anything
again, its just a simple opinion
not meant to offend or anything, or try to change the game
im not even sure its .006 i just remember someone saying it was so dont quote me on that
like im not even sure that those odds are the odds
I take it people pull these percentages from game files?
Im just stating what ive heard
oh I understand why you were saying that, I just feel knowing the numbers ruins the game
but just my opinion as a fellow player
Thats understandable
but when it came to this i was a little shocked that it was almost next to none
which yes i agree they should be hard to get and more rare than anything in the game
just not THAT low
if that makes sense
it is crazy rare but that was entirely their intention. to make it something that was truly hard to achieve and obtain.
but yes I agree thats a very low number
thats why its my own opinion and i wont push it on others because to some that is reasonable, and worth hunting
just not for me, knowing that ill more than likely never get one
Honestly i wouldnt mind as much about the odds if they made separate non typs for "regular" levels
that would be cool but it would ruin the awesomeness of a great one
like i said i can totally see where other people are coming from
i just think the odds are next to none
I just think the non typs dont have to be epic pike the fableds
They can be generic ish
Since the fableds are all massive and thick
as they say in the streams look what they have done in classic to get an idea of where COTW will go. there are non typs of all sizes in classic so hopefully they make their way into COTW in the future
maybe one day
@visual forge makes it even harder to get one when 100+ kg bucks still spawn with the normal diamond rack š
2 variations still haven't been posted. I have a good feeling they aren't 100% fixed yet.
There's 5 or 6 vartiations of the GO rack according to patchnotes. Two versions have been taken legit while the others were shown by hackers so far.
i wish i could see the hacked ones
No you don't. Hackers almost always ruin games for the rest of us
yes i would like to cause i will never find them in game, so i at least would like to know how they look like@sudden garden
not with that attitude
no no he has a point
A couple are really good looking. The rest are meH. Indeed but there's a lot of content creators that dont chase them cause theres issues. So both sides have a point really.
Just saying if were really going to be honest about it.
I've seen the top ten at a competition, but I'm pretty sure the ones I saw were just replicas
So after about 1000 harvests post update none of my need zones are spawning bucks did one run yesterday got on today and all does
@thorn vessel destroy all your zones and find new ones
Si that one guy that saud he got a piebald GO
Thought he would post the photo already
??
@visual forge Someone in this chat said that they saw somebody say that they got a Piebald GO and would post it on facebook by last weekend
And there is no facebook post 
I want to hope its legit
But idk if he really taking this long
Or just hasnt even shot it
It's not legit. Just a person seeking attention
thats what im gonna assume it is
isnt a piebald go not just piebald
someone said that awhile ago when it was first mentioned so
Fabled piebald is the only variation the devs meant them to have besides albino common and melanistic that we know of
so it wouldnt just be piebald
Correct
unfortunately the guy on Facebook was lying. He never posted the Piebald Go
Of course he was lying. Who uses Facebook anyway.
EW lmao
I want to see a new GO
thicc
He looks like a red deer
No that is a Rocky Mountain elk
sheit
Holy
The level 7 red stags look like what I'd envision as a GO to be honest
Very pointy
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Haha
That stag above that looks awesome
I have an antler besides me thatās similar colour and texture
I mean...
I've got a heart pronghorn already
Would be nice to get more romantic antlers

lmao
I think that red boio is fake, dont @me tho
@strong thorn
Dang my only weakness

If you think those farmed reddeer are impressive you ain't seen farmed elk they are so much bigger
Wide
You are pooping in the fields and see that coming your way
Looks like a texas longhorn and a pronghorn swapped horns/antlers
it will be interesting to see GO of the big antler species. going to take up half your trophy lodge š
You know what i wanna see, a great one Rocky Mountain Elk
what makes something a "great one"
the great one is just a non typical whitetail right?
Yea
what would a great one rme look like
a non typical elk
post image is what i meant
The challenge for making a GO for big antler species might be pretty significant
The world record whitetails look like GOs, but the world record elk and moose look like level 5s
So the devs wouldnāt have much to base their design off of
Bruh what
These have nothing to do with red deers
Coz this is not red deer
Its farm shit that has nothing to do with natural ones
No that's just New Zealand red deer
Farm red deer
^ this one looks most natural
Nah man
They look like that cause they're invasive
NZ is full of resources for them
And no predators (excluding hunters)
So they get monstrous
They do but definitely not like most of red deers that have been posted here
So basically lvl 7 red deer rack
One of the most unrealistic racks in the game
Well i think it was due to the commonness of these sort of racks in hunting red stag images
@lone hazel that is not a farm red deer, NZ red deer get huge
Yeah, this is also not farm
the world record wt is way smaller
i know a farm when i see it
also why farm the red stag when they already get huge
xD
I know this wt is farm deer but all these "world record" red deers you've posted here are specially fed safari deers
no u
Okay so this one is natural according to you?
About those lvl 7 racks in the game, they would look more normal on potential new zealand map. On hirschfelden they look just dumb xD
Well you have to use the same animal
And no one would hunt them on one map if they were always smaller
Alot of the reddeer in New Zealand also have elk blood from cross breeding that also makes them bigger than anywhere else
Oh btw
Trust me, people who live and see natural european red deer in real life definitely would
They have short beams and the people get the best angle for pics they possibly can they are highly overrated
Agreed red deer are overrated in my eyes
bruh theres a ranch 3 hours from my house thats on sale with sika deer at it..
and audad
Like big axis deer, @frozen kite
But the bottom one is also alot smaller
Yeah
larger
@supple tulip bro have you ever seen sika/red deer irl? xDD
@inland orbit correct
thicc sika
the rifle is as long as its body lmfao
what is so unique about them is that they bugle and they are from japan
and how small their antlers all
are*
Eypick be googling WORLD RECORD DEER and taking first photo and then saying this is how big deer looks like xD
Alright if you bitch about me getting images go get some images
bruh axis meat is so good
Yeah, usually farm shit but ye ye deer
Yes?
you're implying that if a deer is farmed then it becomes an alien or some shit
It's still a deer
An unreasonably big deer yes but a deer
IRL axis deer get crazy
I think they could stay in class 3, but they should really get a remodel and truracs
i also saw a 8 pointer in velvet during the hunt which was during june
no they need class 4-5
243 doesn't do much
223 cant do shit to those guys
Probably should move them up to 4
Also keep in mind, Parque is a Patagonian hunting ranch
my dad had a intestine shot with a 7mm didnt do much at all
So the axis deer would get massive like they do on IRL ranches
The axis deer we currently have are modeled after the Indian ones i believe
Because they have very similar racks and looks to then
Even then, Indian chital deer get rather large
And it confuses me why they didn't go for Texas axis deer if Parque imported them
They are quite as big as a whitetail
Bigger antlers might mean thicker necks
But blackbucks IRL are actually dog sized
Axis should be class 4 or bigger
Yeah the blackbuck in CotW are pretty on point
I gotta get me a diamond blackbuck
Should probably start grinding parque tbh
I like blackbucks and kudus a lot
But I only have one diamond each
I don't know how are they going to make em GOs
That rack doesnt make diamond for blackbuck anymore
Yeah only one rack makes it now, before there where like 4 racks that made diamond
3 of em could be on lvl 4s
3 only
Two of em could be on lvl 4s
And lvl 5s could be all the shapes but the smallest one was as big as the 4s got
After 2.0 the lvl 4s now have the old diamond rack
If that's what you mean
Oh maybe
Big boy axis
hows the head being held up if the dude isnt holding it

classic trophy shots be like
They didn't buy the hunter poses
lmao
I would just assume his knee is on it and its antlers are making it heavy from the back.
the hunters are low level medusas and so it freezes just no stone
lololol
Plot twist its actually alive
theres blood on its mouth 
That sadly doesn't mean anything he could be wounded to an inch of his life
Like just about to kick the bucket
guys its ok he just got into the barbecue sauce
damnit who didnt put the ketchup away the axis deer got into it
man I cannot find a diamond whitetail to save my life
idk how many hours i've logged in layton just targeting whitetail and to this day I still have not seen a single level 3 whitetail
i have plenty of max weights but the closest I've gotten to diamond trophy rating was like 259.5
frustrating
particularly frustrating since i know there's nothing i can be doing better to increase my chances
i've got more drink zones on my map than I can visit in the 3.5 hour drink window, and I hit them systematically, i follow max weight tracks when I find them, i'm checking feed zones when I find them, farming all the max weight and big bucks for respawns, trying multiplayer servers, etc.
just can't get a level 3 to spawn smh
oh well, back to the grind š
Yea man there's something wrong with WT. Hopefully they figure it out and get it fixed. I myself have stopped all together chasing WT cause there's major issues with them. I experienced the same thing. Its beyound ridiculously frustrating. I was afraid of that with the last update. Meaning when they add something or change something with other speices or add stuff it affects other aspects of the game. Which sucks cause in this case they added several new things,"fixed the GO spawns" and it ultimately broke the WT all together. So after waiting several months for the update I myself am beyound disappointed with the results and wont enguage in WT hunting in this game until EW proves theyre fixed. So it may be quite a while. Just play other games or other maps.
With all the hype EW created months ago with all this has actually been a huge failure in so many ways,has left an extremely sour taste in my mouth. My advise to anybody chasing a GO is to ignore them until WT are proven that theyre fixed. Hopefully they get this original GO working 100% correctly before even thinking of adding another GO.
But just my opinion.
The faCT that 1 maybe 2 GOs have been posted since the update launch 2 1/2 months ago just proves the point. Pre patch wed see at least 1 GO or 2 a month.
Just like we all saw last week a person will "claim" to have shot a GO with no proof and 0 legit GOs posted again proves the point.
Actually 3 months ago now.
Please EW fix the WT!!!!!!! And the GO that has been elevated to "legendary status"!! Was meant to bring players "back into the game" not drive us all away from the chase. Just saying.
And I'm just saying what everybodys thinking but dont want to say.
@torpid sluice after almost 200 whitetail I got my first diamond so idk what is wrong but new zones that are back in the bush now just sucks and getting that diamond may be alot harder now...
i think thats the point but its made layton a harder map to play on
I really hope breaking the WT wasn't what they meant when they said "fixed GO spawns"
If no deer spawn you cant screw it up
@vital geyser they fixed a few of the great one racks, but they are still quite broken. Bucks are still being shot over 100kgs. The other 2 rack variants (that I still have the images for) have yet to be posted by anyone.
Are they racks that are in DD33s discord?
hopefully the whitetail are revisited and looked over
they arent as fun to hunt as they were before the change
And i want them ti revisit their racks
I think the fabled racks are more realistic than the 3s
most of the earlier on truRACS need some adjusting.
Yes the general racks need variation esp the diamonds. They need to totally be revisited and improved. I totally agree that they ruined WT with whatever it was that they were trying to achieve. If they wanted WT in unused areas,so to speak,add more pop. Ive got some drink zones over 200 yds away from water. Id say those are feed zones. Or theyre just drinking from mud puddles? Not very realistic to have animals drink I g up in the forest and away from the water source. Mulies are a lot like that too. On SRP Ive got a drink zone for mulies where theyre literally drinking off of pavement. Again just not realistic. It doesnt take a real life hunter to see that its not realistic.
Again there's several beautiful,cool places on the river system where WT used to be,but the river being a major water source is now a Barron dessert for WT. Such a waste of the art work so to speak.
If animals are drinking,they should be right on the water source. Thats how it is in real life.
Personally i think whitetail have such plain racks because they were the first to get truracs
Compare them to mule deer which have at least 3 different diamond racks and you can see how far truracs has come
So yes whitetail racks should definitely be revisited
I feel the whitetail racks lack thickness
they do @sudden garden
Yea like I sincerely feel the devs should get their hands on real deer antlers
I've made this point several times if a buck is going to have 14-16 points it better have main beams thicker than the width of a pencil
It would help a lot
then again a lot of the deer models either lack in the antlers or the body models
Unless youre axis and lack in both
Fabled wildebeest
GO gemsbok
Oh god you couldnt do anything near a group with horns like that
Stab someone while you try to drink
Lions in the chat rn:
Bro can we get a GO Warthog where the tusks are so long they curve into the head
Yeah like babirusa
Exactly
Trutusks for all pigs would be nice
saw the hacked gos on dd33s channel, look pretty stupid
Iām pretty sure we are going to get better improvements for the older TruRacs. Seeing how well the new animals in SRP and how TruRed/Mule look. They definently have the potential and skills to redo older TruRacs
I think especially considering theyre starting to run out of antler species to add to the game
Thatd be probably their best bet
Well, there are still a lot left. Blackbuck, Axis Deer, Musk Deer, Springbok, Gemsbok, Cape Buffalo, Warthog, Wild Boar, Lesser Kudu, Wilderbeest,
And possibly: Plains Bison, European Bison
And not including possible animals TruSkull animals that could possibly come like bears, mountain lions, etc
True but i mean like new animals in general
They will probably do a short revisit on the old truracs at some point
And maybe we can get some smexy whitetails
Hopefully
what is the average time for running across a great one? is there an average time ? Ive been grinding whitetail for 2 weeks and havent ran across anything but a possible track that was a heavy animal
Well i mean the fabled update came out right before may
And the first fabled was shot around may 1st actually
But people like flinter havent shot one until like 2-3 months ago
So i mean if you put the time i to grinding it youll get jt eventually
But considering no other fabled racks seem to be showing up along with WT having weird drink zones and I havent seen a GO in a while
Itll take you a bit or you my get it tomorrow
All i can say is best of luck keep the grind up and itll pay off
Right on ,I get it ,thank you @vital geyser
what is the average time for running across a great one? is there an average time ? Ive been grinding whitetail for 2 weeks and havent ran across anything but a possible track that was a heavy animal
@lilac maple there is none really someone worked out somekinda percentage and it was very very low since then whitetail have been changed also whitetails that should be gos are spawning with higher than normal weight over 100kg or left over . also the zones have changed. so now its even harder than before.
i spent a month grinding them all day every day
shot about 1500 had one whitetail that should of been a GO but it was one of the fake over weight ones
105kg
personally think they should return the whitetail to how they were i dont think that would happen though but it was more fun to hunt them. the zones now and how they split them up will make it a lot harder to find a GO than before. so it was very hard before now its very very very hard.
Wow,that's very disconcerting.@pliant oak I suppose all I can do is either keep at it or just hunt as normal. Pity. Thanks for the info.
Can we get a great one red deetmr which is literally a diamond but with insane rack size
They might talk about it in todays stream
@vital geyser there was a little chat about it little funny tk mentioned flinter when i spent a month on about it š
one day...one day...š
yeah ideally id just put it back to how it was pre patch
it was more fun to hunt whitetails
the only thing that really needed changing was getting rid of phantom GOs
TK said he would ask the devs about it and get some info for us about these issues.
i didn't think i'd say this but i kind of like it better now than how it was before tbh
it was very annoying having all my WT zones wiped and having to re-find herds and set up new tents and tripods but
the old way where going after whitetail was literally a run, where you just made your way upriver and scoped all the zones along the way and shot for respawns was extremely gamey
I think it's annoying and rather bizarre where they drink so far from water
it's just as grindy now obviously but at least there is some variety in the terrain they're in
But I think it's neat to have them stick to foliage
and rn i have more drink zones than i can cover in the 12-15:30 drink time
so it's not like i'm lacking for places to hunt them
Its more about the change not being mentioned in any patchnotes: it came as a suprise to many so people wanted some clarification
yes exactly i agree
i originally had thought they put it in the notes, in a cryptic way like "fixed whitetail spawn zones" but i rechecked twice and there's absolutely nothing in there about it
and that wasn't the right thing to do
it's also kinda weird how they seemingly moved literally all the whitetail except 1-2 herds away from highton river, such that the area that used to have almost all the whitetail on the map now has almost none
but ultimately i'm alright with it now that i've re-found their zones and done my setups (of course if they change it again i'm gonna have to do that all over again for a third time lmao)
there's one zone i have that i really really hope doesn't get changed because it almost always has at least 2 max weight bucks drinking there
and it's wide open so i can pretty much always see them from my tripod without having to move around
it not being mentioned in a patch notes is a big a thing and ive said this already all changes need to be mentioned . sometimes though things will happen by mistake or bug that is unforseen.
mule deer i can tell you from hunting them every day all day since the truracs patch are not the same as they were previously
some will debate this but i can tell you from hunting them 24/7 for 3 weeks solid the rarity of diamond truracs mule deer isnt the same as pre patch
sometimes what happens in a perfect coding enviroment isnt the same as ingame
@torpid sluice your zone will change.
if they code it as such it will
they do change regardless of if you kill them or dont
don't think there's much point in speculating what will definitely happen to a map or not when EW hasn't expressly said what, if anything, it will do to whitetail on layton
from what i noticed hunting them for 1 month solid all day every day
they change if you blow them up by overharvesting
no sometimes they just vanish
afaik they don't just disappear randomly unless it's from overharvesting or due to multiplayer
why who knows?
but i keep a backup need zones locations file to copy over after i finish a multiplayer session
flinter had this also
idk, not saying it's impossible but i haven't had a zone spontaneously vanish without an overharvest, overwrite due to multiplayer, or game update
i think some zones overlap
so i'll work that zone as long as it's there š
odd times or some weirdness
i think the hard thing to get right is some people on one hand want to grind to get a great one
some are happy with maybe getting one through luck
some are happy just know they might be there but not bothered if they see one
to cater for all people its hard
as the system has to work for all
if I never got one for the entirety of the game's lifespan I'd be disappointed but i wouldn't feel cheated
they should be so rare that most players, even most players who really grind whitetail, will never get one
it shouldn't be a guarantee that comes with dedicating a disproportionate amount of hunting time to whitetail imo
great ones are still bugged that's why a lot of people stopped grinding whitetail.
Is there a pic of the first GO?
@restive briar
You know what i wanna see?
The whitetails fighting multimount with 2 GOs
Piebald v Fabled Piebald
Bruh
I agree. If theyre way up in the forest or foliage tjeyre not actually drinking but should be feed zones. Ive never seen a WT in real life drinking from the forest floor or off a road. If theyre drinking its from a water source. Also if people are WT hunters and thats what they play the game for its beyound disappointing if they dedicate their time to WTs if I played through the games entirety of its life span and never saw a GO is a major bust. Thats not reality. The more time IRL you spend chasing trophies,the greater the chance you have of seeing one. So on one hand they want the game to be realistic,but on the other hand they make it "just a video game". When animals drink off of roads or in forest or have a monster trophy that nobody has a chance at,is just a video game style of hunting. I myself am confused as to what the real "style" of game this is? Is it just a game to have fun with or is it an unrealistic "reality" video game? It is nice to have "different scenery" that theyre in but now in a lot of my zones its not realistic to watch them drinking out of a bush. Plus the rivers beautiful in many areas but "unrealistic" that there's no deer around the river. Just my opinion. I live in WT country IRL. So what WT have become in this game is very strange to me.
Just watched the stream from today. Glad question was asked about WT and they'll be looking into it. I dont think people are "complaining" about WT just stating observations about the new way WT zones are and issues with them. Some put hundreds of hours into the game in pursuit of a GO and notice the "issues" and try to raise them so they get addressed so to speak.
Some see "complaints" others see "constructive criticism".
But that kind of "feed back" about "complaints" is why I dont play the game anymore for WT and the GO. If I'm bored will play SRP because I love deer hunting so the new mulies will do. When I get bored of chasing Mulies in the same old environment theres another option and you can change things up and not see the same old scenerie over and over. But as far as chasing the GO and WT my IRL time is better of investing into other games or real life activities. š¹š¹ There's issues and WT are only on one single map that gets beyound boring chasing the same 5 "antler variations" in the same map over and over until you get so sick of that one map that theyre on. But again just one players feed back or "complaint" so to speak. š¹
I donāt have a complaint or criticism I just have a simple question are the great ones possible to get? About two months ago EW came out and said that they had fixed the bug that was causing the great one to spawn back as a white tail with a higher weight total. Is this bug fixed or not? Should I keep trying to hunt for a great one?
you can get them, but as we know of 2 variations in specific haven't been posted and they can still spawn with the over 100kg weight, but have a normal diamond rack.
@full cave Thank you thatās all I needed to hear.
ah so they are still there..interesting
Oh yea. Theyve been there the entire time. Ive shot at least 3. That was supposed to be fixed like 2 patches ago?
I hadnt seen any since the last patch thats all.
So im guessing GOs are more common that i thought
They are just broken in terms of rack diversity
I hope they know about that issue. It's one of the bigger bugs in the game imo. You grind hours and hours (for some people hundreds of hours) killed hundreds of whitetail. Then you get one of the over weight bucks like myself. That's a pretty easy way to lose people.
I mean there was that fixed GO spawn thing but we should definitely try to bring it up again if they arent already aware of it
Guys we need to get a GO Red Deer Which Literally Has lots of abnormal tines
I think they need to get the first GO to function perfectly first before adding more. Otherwise whats the point? Lol
^
I totally agree Mchunter. Thats my point as of lately. Ive shot many,many,many diamonds and hundreds upon hundreds of deer in between each over weight diamonds. So I def wouldnt call them common. Thats all Ive played the game for and what brought me all the way back into the game. Yes Ive been venting a lot but thats to be expected esp after Wait ing months for an update that just made things worse and why I wont continue until theres proof that everythings fixed cause I'm so tired of wasting my real life time.
And just a thought,I dont believe its a coincidence that after the patch was released to PC months ago that all of a sudden we rarely ever see a GO posted now days. Pre patch there were at least 1-2 a month posted. Some may say thats a lot but is it really when you consider thousands of people were putting in untold number of thousands of hours and thats all we saw? Seems about right. Now we see little to non and see way too many people lying about shooting one or hacking them.into their games. That in itself is an indicator its too rare esp considering theres 6 of them. If the point of their "rarity" is less than 1/2 a percent of people will actually see 9ne,again whats the point? They could be paying all the people who created them and their hundreds of hours of development into other aspects of the game that'll keep.people interested in staying with the game. Just a thought.
After all,its just a video game. If I put that many hours into Real life hunting,I'll come across way more trophies than this video game offers.
@full cave I've been trying to bring it up for months at this point. Emailed the support team 3-4 times about this topic. Feels pretty ignored to me. I would think the rarest animal in the game would be more important to fix. Imagine being that guy who worked for hundreds of hours to get one and got trolled at the end like me...
That was my first step towards not playing the game anymore.
Yes exactly!! And same here. Cause thats the species I love and am obsessed with IRL. Ive done the same as well with support. That was the entire point of the GO is to have an insane trophy that brought players back into the game. Thats hasnt exactly worked out as intended. So since support isnt responding Ive went wild here "hoping" they'll get the point. But yes if I was one of the artists that played apart in creating these guys,Id be happy to collect the paycheck but severely disappointed that literally nobody would enjoy my master piece. Thats also why I'm so bummed about whats happened with the new need zones. There's many awesome,beautiful spots on the river where WT used to use but are now non existent cause a lot of my zones on console the deer drink from bushes or in the forest far away from water. Its the opposite of a "realistic/realitybased" video game.
Ive never once in real life seen an WT deer drink from a bush or on a road. So far from realistic.
Also if anybody happens to actually get a GO. Can you please make sure to take a pic of their track?!??! The GO track is supposed to look differnt,stand out beyound doubt that there's a huge monster around. That was supposed to be fixed from the beginning and so far the proof says it's not fixed. The very few people Ive talked to said there was no difference in their tracks to any other WT track. So off of that proof that issue hasnt been corrected either.
And just a nother thought here as well. One thing that really bothered me about yesterdays stream,is mods here say we are "complaining" here. No were not actually. Some of us really love the game and experience "flaws" in the game that for whatever reason the team doesnt experience in the "dev build" or whatever its called. We the people put in the time in this product to help support and make it what it is today. We "complainers" are just trying to help. While also following the rules cause we want the team to know about issues so they get fixed. So take it as feed back and not just people "complaining" or intentionally trying to "start stuff" and be "trolling" . Put trust into the players that love the game.
And just a nother thought here as well. One thing that really bothered me about yesterdays stream,is mods here say we are "complaining" here. No were not actually. Some of us really love the game and experience "flaws" in the game that for whatever reason the team doesnt experience in the "dev build" or whatever its called. We the people put in the time in this product to help support and make it what it is today. We "complainers" are just trying to help. While also following the rules cause we want the team to know about issues so they get fixed. So take it as feed back and not just people "complaining" or intentionally trying to "start stuff" and be "trolling" . Put trust into the players that love the game.
@full cave
The tracks are the same as any other whitetail track, you can't tell it Is a big one untill you see 97 - 110 kg
All GOs have been strictly from PC players right?
Pretty sure thereās been an Xbox one.
I thought GOs were completely bugged for console players, or at least that's what it was whenever they initially released GOs
they work they're just slightly broken still
Ah just wasn't sure cause I remember that being the buzz for console players when GOs were released.
finally got a diamond whitetail lol
took so many dozens of hours of grinding, found him at the southern tip of south lake (the big lake northwest of mushroom lake)
@magic phoenix he probably got it while grinding for the GO
obviously still on the GO grind but i'm happy to at least have gotten that
was literally the first class 3 i've ever seen and i have like 300 hours
and at least like 120 of those hours were on layton hunting whitetail and blacktail to a lesser extent
Yea I still havenāt gotten a diamond since I started the GO grind. Mainly cause my need zones are constantly deleting themselves and changing
yeah i had one really good new zone since the update that depopulated
have had a few depopulate actually, idk what causes it since it wasn't overharvesting or due to multiplayer
i get the sense they're gonna do something to whitetail again, based on the stream the other day, it sounds like they know people wanna see some change away from what they did last update
have no idea what that something will be though
They just need to find something and stick to it. Not just with whitetail but with the game in general
Congrats on the diamond. Those are way rarer than Pre patch WT for some reason.
yeah TK did say that they've cut like 50% of their planned new content in favor of dedicating that dev time to bugfixes
which is good, but i still think they should get in the habit of doing hotfixes, it's odd that they don't
especially for serious bugs
thanks @full cave and yeah they do seem rare as hell now lol
Yea I saw that. Thats a very smart move IMO. Yes theyre very rare these days!! So enjoy that one!! May be a while till you see another. Lol
i usually do like, start at 5 am and hit my whitetail feed zones and when i run out i go after blacktail until 9, then either skip to 12:40 or hunt moose till then, and then hunt WT drink zones
and in 100+ hours of that i got 6 diamond blacktails and 0 diamond whitetails lol
so yeah they definitely seem to be rare
Nice. Good strat. When I chased WT all the time Id do the same. I'd hit am FZ,then DZ them pm FZ. A lot of the feed zones werent that hard to hunt. So it maximised the chance at getting deer I would see or that I couldnt get at in their DZ in time.
@torpid sluice im sorry im kinda dumb
no worries bro it's all love
Iām thinking that axis deer great ones will look something like this
still got me fucked up on the fact its head is staying straight up with nothing holding it
heads too big for it to lean against guys knee
Probably has it propped up with a stick
Or like fishing line or something
I wanna see a GO fallow deer where the antlers are literally massive
@magic phoenix so a moose
Can we get a saber toothed puma GO
Or a musk deer that has walrus tusk sized fangs
GO water buffalo. The horns droop down to the ground and curl back up above the head in a heart shape
GO Beceite Ibex. Literally just horns
Go wabbit with huge ears amd a cottantail like a mop š
Just being silly ,but probably more possible than the gO whitetail ,I sat on a wt needzone 4 hours and saw 2 whitetail š¦
So just wondering if there's a single console player that has even seen a GO since the "post patch" in the last 5 weeks?????
Well they are broken last time I checked
I know WT have changed amd are "broken" I saw last weeks update where "they will look into it" . just wondering cause I avoid the game like the "plaque" or the "corona" and havent played the game since or paid any attention to the discord. Just wondering just incase I'm wrong and they actually are spawning. Thanks EYEPICK. Just checking incase I missed something. So hopefully within the next couple months there will be a "fix" . Back to other games I GO. Lol Pun intended š¹š¹Glad I waited 2 months for the update 5 weeks aGO . Lol š¹
Funniest part is after almost 5 months since the GOs inception that theyre still not working properly and the related species are worse than ever. Hopefully with the new change of dedicating more of the staff being dedicated to fixing bugs instead of cramming out new DLCs to buy that they can get the GO and related species to function properly and realistically.
That would be great because I am currently trying to get the GO on ps4 so I will take a break if what you say is true and try for another rare in the mean time
That would be great because I am currently trying to get the GO on ps4 so I will take a break if what you say is true and try for another rare in the mean time
@crude granite it's definitely true
I bet you it's the last 2 rack variations not spawning is the issue.
@full cave How many rack variations are there?
So there is a chance of it spawning you just have to be really lucky with getting the right rack?
Well I have screenshots of 4 and (two of them were hacked in)
not me of course, from someone else who did such thing
So there is a chance of it spawning you just have to be really lucky with getting the right rack?
@crude granite no chance. If they aren't the 2 rack shapes already in game you'll get a 102+ kg whitetail every time. With a normal diamond rack.
I think I am just fishing for the answer I want :( Will wait for an official announcement for a fix. Thank you for confirming it for me and saving me a ton of time š
6 GO racks for whitetail. Only 2 are "spawning correctly" as far as we know
š¤ I wonder what the 6th one looks like
Hopefully it will look better than the main one we've all seen by now.
They were posted here by modders they look really good by i wish I could unsee them
yeah I have those screenshots, from them, but I only have 5 in total
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It'll be a while before all of them are fixed I'm sure. My guess is 8 months š
Still cant see mine in the lodge xd
that'll probably never get fixed
Sadly
I'm not surprised.
Such ashame as it really pulled me back into the game. To find out they are broken is hard to stomach
it's even harder when you should have gotten one, but they're bugged so you get an overweight diamond instead.
that lost 70% of my motivation to play the game.
I've talked with support about it and they literally asked
"what map is this on" when I was talking about the great one whitetail š¤£
Yeah that's really rough. At least I had only just started grinding! I can't imagine it would be a massive patch either
shows how much they know
I've talked with support about it and they literally asked
"what map is this on" when I was talking about the great one whitetail š¤£
@full cave BRUH
I still have the email
Ya think theyād know their own game
I sent them screenshots of the ones that aren't spawning and what the issues is, they asked if I could clip the next one I get. My response would have been
"no, I don't play the game anymore."
too buggy for me :S
Wow really!? This game has so much potential. If another top game designer wanted to challenge it, might be the push EW needs
another one is around the corner, "soon" is the word on the street š
I bet their will be a hunting game soon that shits on all the rest
if you look up "ultimate games hunt game" you'll find news about it.
Hmm
hunting*
Could be good could be shit
Oh! I mean the hunting game community is really been patient so if another great hunting sim dropped im sure lots of them would shift
the bighorn models are 12x better than cotw's
EW will really be in some serious trouble if the gameplay is as amazing as the audio and models.
What is this game
doesn't have a name yet.
How? What?
I'll send you more information in DMs later if you want?
Sure
I remember when people talked about hunting sim 2 crushing COTW
it never stood a chance because HS1 was garbo as well.
Yea its pretty bad. As diamonds seem to be at the same percentage as piebalds. Way too rare for diamonds and esp with the GO depending on respawns. Pre patch it seemed youd maybe have a chance if you dedicated 4-6 months grinding. At this pace maybe you'll find a GO in a year or two of grinding. Id k when the last GO shot has been reported. Its been months. But post patch has affected that severely. The patch has been available for around 3 months and we've seen 1 posted? I could be wrong,maybe 2 or maybe non. Eother way it's way too rare and the new "set up" for WT makes it nearly impossible. Such a shame.
I guess if you have no life and put in 6-10 hours a day of grinding over and over maybe its fun? But for anybody who's an average player with work and real life responsibilities its just a joke and a "ploy" to keep people interested. Just my opinion but have better things to do in live. š¹š¹š¹š¹š¹
Id love to see a new game esp with "working water fowl" and "upland birds" or "monster" WTs!! I'm in for that!!! A video game is for fun and hearing 2 streams ago TK say theyve added to mallards pop made me laugh. I'm mean really,mallards right now just swim in circles and you hunt them with a rifle. We dont need more of that. We need them to perform like geese and be realistic,not even more of them swimming in circles and being annoying as f. Bit just my opinion.
has a new GO been added? or WT are still screwed?
I think it was said that the next GO will not be announced, only found out about when itās, well, found
But I assume it will be on Hirsch or Layton since otherwise it might deter players who donāt have the dlc maps from trying to get a GO
Plus it will be much more accessible to hunt them for new players that way
True
š¤what about red deer?
Or roe?
Something on other maps as well as Hirsch
If the diamonds stay the size they are, then a GO reddeer rack will be the size of its body
i wonder how predator GO will be handled
If itās something planned at all
Nah the current big diamond red stagsā antlers are the size of its body
Wait what if it isnāt for an antlered animal at all?
What if itās for hogs or so something?
No not like bugged
Just theyāre fucking huuuuge
I think it would have to be a map-specific animal though
Otherwise it increases the chances
(Of finding one)
Like your reddeer example, everyone would theoretically have twice the chance of finding one as long as they have parque
hmm
idk
Maybe itās only the first few animals that will be map specific
Or maybe I am totally wrong
What if...
It goes to Reindeer on Medved
And no one will ever know
Cause no one plays Medved

full circle antlers..
that moment when medved has the best landscape and an epic super rare but itās the most slept on map 
iāve noticed lol
that moment when medved has the best landscape and an epic super rare but itās the most slept on map
although ill admit i have slept on it for a while
maybe the barenness of it
What animals it got
Thatās a word now
Bareness is a word
Musk deer, Brown Bear, Boar, Reindeer, Moose,
But yeah I agree
ah
Not interested in those animals
Ah
I go to the burnt forest and have a path I take
Not interested in those animals
not even glorious soviet caribou
To be honest, Iām really hoping for capercaillie, snow sheep, and wolf to come to Medved
The reindeer look so much better than the caribou model-wise
I would love wolf
A lot less.. lumpy
Although that would make it yukonās twin more or less
true
I like how it snows on Yukon sometimes
Alaska and Siberia used to be conjoined twins at a point
Itās pretty when it snows
@full cave same but sometimes itās so sudden
Yeah I think if it snowed more on Yukon, and the snow stayed longer, Iād play Yukon more
Like, Iāll go get a glass of water and come back and itās snow everywhere
But itās up to chance
Wdym
With scent spray, thereās a chance they wonāt smell you
And a chance theyāll come to the smell if youāre using that scent spray
I meant animal scent
Good night
Itās usually just easier, cheaper, and more effective to use callers
Guten nacht, Dimmy
@viscid cairn care to talk more about Medved?
Aye
has a new GO been added? or WT are still screwed?
@strong thorn no new great one, great one whitetail are VERY screwed up along with whitetail in general. When will it be fixed? Not sure. Knowing how most things go it'll be 6+ months.
It was really exciting for me to have something like a great one to hunt! I am a player that likes to have something rare to aim for so when this was announced it, it was a fantastic idea, I set up my map and then slowly I realised that they weren't working properly and then started listening to the community and a fix seemed way off is frustrating. I think it could have been so great and has ended up leaving lots of players like me frustrated. I know if it was my company that I would have put out a hot fix for this
Its a shame actually
Some of the GOs look awesome that ive seen
And for them to be broken it just sucks
And theyre probably thinking of adding another soon while WT are broken
Im probably still going to try to grind whitetail i have a setup and have found a few good spots on the water
But my god its go8ng to be a long hunt
And does anyone know if fabled piebalds are for normal WT or just GOs
Because I have my map and zones dialed in, I am just going to try for a diamond then wait for a patch
Just for the GO @past linden
Huh?
Sorry. Hit the wrong button
Poggers
That was for beta
Yeah thats what im doing
Even though the drink zones are broken their levels arent
Besides the phantom GOs I can still at least help my chances with a diamond or the GOs that are currently working
@vital geyser Let me know how you get on, I am going to do the same. If I know it's possible I will still go after it, even though my chances are slim
I also don't get board hunting Whitetail
I was able to set some stands and tents at some of the lakes that i find a decent group of WT at
And i just run qround and shoot
So i dont get bored i hunt axis and/or mule deer before WT drink time
It seems to have been working well so far shot like 5 max weight estimates today
@vital geyser I am trying yhe hard management theory that has been thrown about. Will keep you posted on how I get on
Whts tge hard management theory?
If you go to YouTube and look for jaxy beard and search for his heard management vid. Flinter has also mentioned it. You find a herd and only shoot the largest male it the heard. Leave any level ones and all the mid sized ones alive. The theory is that yhe game balances each herd and you will get larger respawns if you only shoot the largest (in theory) If you shoot all miles you will find that you will always get a herd with mostly mid sized animals respawning and it will take a lot more kills to reach a diamond respawn. Hope that makes sense. I am trying it out at the moment and have just gotten a nice piebald male response today.
Its unproven but I will try anything atm š©
Inb4 troll GOs are a thing and we just do not know
Ah yeah i remember somethinf like that
Might try that as well, ive just been shooting every male
And i swear if GOs can troll even to diamonds
@crude granite that was a myth made up by a hacker that doesn't work
Oh! Well I feel stupid and @vital geyser forget it m8 just shoot everything š
I think I am just looking for an answer that isn't there! Just got to be patient and wait for that patch!
Oh yeah if/when they do that patch and fix the GOs itll be a lot more fun
it won't be fixed for quite a while I would imagine
Well TK did say that EW are putting efforts into bugs instead of dlc so fingers crossed
I'll believe it when I see it.
yeah EW likes its money
Nah that one has got too much mass
True but in terms of the tines and shape it seems to be almost exact
Yeah
Blacktail do need much thicker antlers
And their color should be more brown
Like the mule deer
Definitely a lot more rack shapes
Honestly they gotta fix earlier truracs
Like whitetail, blacktail, moose, Roosevelt, etc
Oh yeah they need a lot of fixing
I think moose are alright though
Just their scoring is wack
A lot of the earlier textures are weird
and for WT I dont know why the tips of their tines are white like that
Yeah Imma go get screenshots
Yeah the moose have this odd orange-color to their antlers
The closest thing to this I could find was this Yukon moose, but it has got velvet
Yeah I can see what you mean
Tbh I think the moose need the least work
Their color never really phaased me
Whitetail reworkš¦
Tbh I could never have another gun pack and be pretty pleased as long as they were working to make the animals look better
Whitetail rework I would love
Just something about them is kinda funky
every diamond looks the same
Also can you even find leucistic whitetail?
Weird
would love to get a leucistic variant for WT
Honestly, I think Layton needs an update for its animals
Would love antlers that didnāt look like crinkled up paper
Model tweaks, Trurac tweaks, bug fixes, animal fixes
Like why aren't there rare black bear?
It's so weird
This is what a whitetail the size of the diamonds should look like
The mule deer have better whitetail racks
Honestly I think whitetail as such an early Trurac was a bit of a poor choice
Whitetail are amazingly diverse for deer
The variety
Tbh I think the GOs are pretty good
and show how much better their trurac making has gotten
They could also make the coats more saturated and darker
Best modeled animal in cotw is pronghorn Iād have to say
I think the pronghorn look the most realistic to their real life counterpart
and same goes for their horns
The horns on the big ones are worse than anything else in the game
Yeah I hate how close they are to the head
And basically all they had to do was copy paste muflon
@supple tulip probably because the "perfect whitetail" to them is an 8x8
They're a European company, right?
they also have whitetail lol
pretty much all bucks that score in that low to mid gold range are horrendous
Especially with how popular whitetail are, finding a good reference shouldn't be hard at all
let's give them pencils for main beams, but let's also give them 14-16 points
the antlers are passable, but they're way too fat
the body models that is
Tbh I don't mind how many points they could've added
but the length is the issue
And the configuration of the points
Cause you've got 16 points that look nothing like the CotW whitetail
Like the CotW whitetails are always high-racks like this
to be fair whitetail were apart of the early stage truRACS, which most of them in that group being rough
yeah once everything get's truRACS, which will be what. 3-4 years I would imagine?
pretty sure that is what was said
"after all the species have truRACS" or something like that
so really that would mean bear, wolves, mountain lions, coyotes and lynx in that group as well then
Also I think they said they want to keep supporting the game 'til at least 2023
it'll be around longer than that
came out in 2017 iirc and look how old classic is (which is still being supported)
Well comparing Classic to CotW doesn't work
Classic is very different gameplay and development-wise
Like with Classic I was told of a lighting bug, and the very next day it got patched
Meanwhile, we have moose scoring that haven't gotten diamond in who knows when
