#🦌︓great-ones

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torpid sluice
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that might spawn some more bucks at some of those zones

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if u were on pc i'd say just delete your pop file lol

thorn vessel
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Another odd thing I have noticed is I have gone a lot further between diamonds

torpid sluice
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i still haven't gotten a single whitetail diamond

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max weights are pretty rare on my map and i've never even seen a level 3

thorn vessel
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I had been getting them every 350ish kills now its like 500

torpid sluice
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you've been grinding a lot longer than me lol

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i've only had this game for a couple months

thorn vessel
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Just keep at it one will spawn

torpid sluice
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yeah

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wish we had another map for whitetail though

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crawling around the same patches of trees in layton is getting a bit old lol

thorn vessel
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Me too I’m hopping the next map has them but I doubt it

torpid sluice
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when i get tired of it i just set my sights on a diamond of another species though and go somewhere else

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same, i'm assumign the next map won't be in NA

thorn vessel
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Maybe next next map

torpid sluice
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yeah that'd be my assumption, the one after next will be another NA map and should have whitetail (although SRP doesn't obviously)

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but there's not many more new huntable NA species they can add besides upland game birds and waterfowl

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though if they do new zealand next they could have whitetail on that, though NZ's whitetail population is pretty small compared to other big game animals

vital geyser
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They could add bobcats

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And bring bacj axis deer

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Id like to see dove and maybe squirrel hunting

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They had squirrels beforr

full cave
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Me want squirrels!!!!!

neon cedar
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diamond squirrels

vital geyser
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For reference

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And Also apologies for this not being fabled related

supple tulip
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Squirrels lmao

vital geyser
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I just think having another small game animal like rabbits wouldnt be too bad

supple tulip
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Depends on the map

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And personally, I think squirrels would be too small to be a good huntable animal in CotW

dawn tide
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How about some species of ground squirrels

supple tulip
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Still

merry sand
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@thorn vessel can you show us your need zones?

sudden garden
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I think rabbits and pheasants are the smallest animals that would work

thorn vessel
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@merry sand it’s not the best as I am away from my Xbox but these are all the ones I have from memory I’ve gotten over 2000, 1000 after the patch so I think that’s all of them. Hope it helps.

merry sand
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@thorn vessel thank you so much man, really appreciate it 😊

merry sand
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on facebook a guy shot a piebald great one

full cave
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Did u see what variation it was @merry sand ?

merry sand
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@full cave not yet he will post the pic at the weekend

full cave
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Oh. So nobodys actually seen it then?

vital geyser
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Wait so is there a photo of itv9m facebook or did he just say he did

merry sand
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@vital geyser he posted under another users photo of a great one that he found a great one as well two days ago and that its a piebald but hes not at home until weekend and will post the pic then

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@thorn vessel sir i went to all the places you marked as zones and found lots of them as well on my map, thanks you so much

thorn vessel
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@merry sand awesome! Hopefully you will find a GO soon!

full cave
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Well unless there's a pic and harvest screen its fake. There's been so many hacks and fakes. Sad its come to that. If he could post it on FB he couldve posted pics. And if he did shoot one hed k ow its not just a PIEBALD. thats actually the fabled one. So def fake

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Again it just proves the point that if so many people go to such lengths to hack it or lie about it,its too rare. But just my opinion. Thats why I gave up. I can only play a few hours here and there. Maybe on a weekend I can spend several hours playing. So I consider myself the "average player". So meaning the odds of me finding one are about the same as winning the lottery. Its meant more for kids so to speak that can play for hours on end day after day. Being a full time working person its just a waste of time. Plus with all the issues that we know are actual "bugs" with WT I will not play until.theyre fixed. Meaning they dont have "footsteps",trophy ratings all messed up. Seems when a spaches TR doesnt work there def is issues with that given sources. History has proven that. After several hours of chasing them Ive heard WT make one call. In my opinion hunting WT right now is a waste of time. So I myself play other games or SRP cause the new mulies are the funnEST thing in the game right now unfortunately. Breaks my heart as an avid/obsessed WT hunter 8n real life. But same goes for ducks. I live in the marshes to chase mallards. But mallards in this game are a joke. Play HS2 for good bird action. As things are theres really no need to have mallards or any duck species in the game cause its far from real world duck hunting. They could remove that species and add something better/more realistic/ funner in their place.

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Plus as a side note,there's a reason ducks arent included in super rares for a reason. Just eliminate them if its that bad. OR raise them to the same level as geese. Geese are actually performing "realistically" at least for a video game.

cold marten
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Play hunting sim 2 for bird action?

full cave
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Yes. Hs2 bird huntings way funner compared to duck hunting in this game.

cold marten
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Play thehuhter classic for bird action, has the best water fowl hunting in my opinion, its fun and fast

full cave
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I dont have that option. But we're getting off topic

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The main topic here is somebody "said" they shot a piebald GO. Which is bs if they can post on FB but not show a pic. And call it a piebald. Thats not what theyre called. So whoever posted that is full of nonsense and not telling the truth.

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Dont fall for it guys. The GO is rarer than before the patch.

cold marten
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The gos are "rare" but I would theres probably some stuff rarer then it

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But idk

full cave
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We've seen 1,rumoured 2,since the patch in almost 3 months. Those numbers are way down from prepatch.

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Yea like what @chalie? Whats rarer than a GO?

cold marten
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A piebald diamond lynx I would say

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Since piebald lynxs are already close to the rarity of a go, so a diamond one would basically be the rarity of the great one

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Well a diamond piebald one

full cave
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Haha ok. If youre going to talk rares than u have to include rare GOs others wise youre comparing apples to oranges dude.

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lynx are on a dlc not everyone cant hunt them

violet schooner
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Melanistic wt and go have Same spawn rate

full cave
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Ok 8ve seen more me la WT than goes

cold marten
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Gos rarity are just bullshit in my opinion

violet schooner
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Hey something could still be broken with them

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It’s just they spawn so rarely we don’t know

cold marten
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Too god damn rare for their own good

full cave
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Ok. So I say melas are rare but theyre not. Yes something is broken.

cold marten
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I have a better chance getting 2 of the rarest animals in classic then killing a go in cotw

violet schooner
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People say I’m gonna grind to get a go any cotw vet will say that’s not how it works cause your grind will probably take a years patience

tribal pawn
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Since piebald lynxs are already close to the rarity of a go, so a diamond one would basically be the rarity of the great one
@cold marten theres been like 3-4 piebald diamond lynx already and one of them was way back in the day and scored 1000

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lol

wise crane
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Most rare diamonds are rarer than a GO

cold marten
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Well thats kinda true

pliant oak
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dont really see how thats true especially now

full cave
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I agree Ron. And comparing anything from classic to COTW is pointless. Its not even the same topic so to speak.

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And considering how rare the GO is,banter like this is the only thing that keeps this chat alive. It should be for showing off GOs and what not. But its really only a chat for speculation and banter. Then every onve in a great,great while theres actually a GO posted.

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Ive seen way more rare diamomds posted in super rares. So thats not really true either.

wise crane
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If GOs are harder to get now, imagine an albino or mela diamond WT

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Oh yeah, if we talk about super rares in general then you will see a lot more

full cave
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What do u mean? Ive seen severam of those compared to Gos lately

wise crane
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Mela diamond WT?

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Recently?

full cave
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Yes

wise crane
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I've seen a lot more GOs

full cave
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Ok. I'm not here to debate or argue. I havent seen that at all. Since the patch ive seen 1 GO. Heard theres 2 but have seen 1 myself. Whether here or other SM have seen more rare diamond WTs.

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Yes there were a few more other GOs posted but they were on consoles that didnt have the patch.

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I dont count them sinve they were pre patch.

wise crane
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They count, they seem to be broken now

full cave
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Plus some of the GOs werent actually real just people trying to pass them off as there's. Unless I see the harvest screen I consider them fake. Which is unfortunate

wise crane
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Yup

full cave
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Well not really. Just like you said they seem to be broken now. So if the console player didnt have the patch then they dont count cause just like you say theyre broken now. Thats why I dont consider pre patch GO count as accurate so to speak. There were more GOs pre patch but theyre almost nonexistent post patch.

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That's all I'm saying

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Theres def an issue with post patch WT. Which sucks.

visual forge
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yeah

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ive been up and down all of layton and only have 3 wt zones

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vs the 30+ i had

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im still mad

full cave
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Yep!! Me too!! I had 32 drink zones before. Ive found 12 on my "new map" so to speak

visual forge
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i even reset my pops

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still no new ones

wise crane
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Like i they put the hours and effort to get It, if they are broken now that doesn't take away all the merit

full cave
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Dang. Thats frustrating. I play console and I can't do anything with files. Even more frustrating :/ I used to be obsessed with the GO and WT. Not anymore. Lol

wise crane
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Hope they get fixed soon so everyone can have the opportunity

visual forge
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^

full cave
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I def agree with you on that @wise crane. I can't even stomache the thought of WT in the game anymore. 1,I still need to take down all the setups I had pre patch and spent so ma y hours building up my map. 2 I need to build up my map from scratch again and sink in so many hours to do that. I really dont want to do that cause there's "maybe" a chance they fix WT and zones will be tossed all over again. So "just my feeling" that I'll waste so much RL time rebuilding only to have to rebuild again. So much "real life" wasted time only for EW to reset everything and to rebuild again. As far as a "real life hunting experience" its far from it. Just too much RL wasted time. I can't do that anymore. Id like to think my RL time will lead to something. After all its just a video game. Esp when I raise an issue and EW reps say "its just a video game" to me.

visual forge
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i agree its annoying to have nothing to show for playing

full cave
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Domt get me wrong. The "concept" of the GO is cool. But being a RL hunter I know that the more time I spend,the greater the odds I habe of finding that Great Monster. But as far as the game goes its not the same.

visual forge
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ive been playing since they released the game at least give me the GO for that >:(

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ive definitely put in the time and effort for it

full cave
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Yes effort and loyalty should be rewarded in a video game!!!!

visual forge
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yaaas

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they do it in literally every other game

full cave
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Exactly!!!!

wise crane
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Thats sucks a lot man, it's not worth it tbh. Just another dumb trophy. Still It will taste a lot better when you get him if you try again when fixed. Gl

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Yeah, this game lacks that

visual forge
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like id be even happy with them upping the spawn percentage for the go

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it'll give me incentive to actually hunt layton

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i only go on there to continue my search for a diamond black bear

full cave
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Yep. And the fact that theres 6 of them.is awesome but nonsense at the same time. A person could spend thousands of hours and years playing just to maybe find one. Nobody has any chance of finding multiple GOs. My feeling is that the GO was added for "hype" just to get people who are bored of the game to play again and not actually being able to achieve the goal of either finding one let alone all 6. Anybody whos chasing all 6 is living in a fantasy world. Hahahhaa Its never going to happen. Again just at the lottery cause I have better chances at that.

visual forge
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yep

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i agree

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its like what, at .006 percent chance for it to spawn?

full cave
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Pretty much. I just chase the new mulies now days. At least they're awesime and working correctly for the most part. Layton and how it works is so boring compared to SRP. But they'll adjust that soon and take the fun out of that soon enough.

visual forge
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still hate em

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going for my diamond rocky mountain elk

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got siked out yesterday :(

full cave
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Oh nice!!! Good luck!! They're way better than the RE on Layton. Laytons in my opinion the GO to map for rabbits and moose. Theyve seem to have taken over. Yes there's some good BT and Elk here and there. But since the patch seems to be infested with rabbits and moose.

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Hahaha and was just talking to a friend who used to play COTW and theyre 100% correct about one thing. The original Nintendo "duck hunt" is 100 times better than the duck hunting in COTW 😹 So true,so true

visual forge
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already got my RE diamond

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just one next to it to compare

torpid sluice
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And considering how rare the GO is,banter like this is the only thing that keeps this chat alive. It should be for showing off GOs and what not. But its really only a chat for speculation and banter. Then every onve in a great,great while theres actually a GO posted.
@full cave well frankly, if GOs were common enough that people in here were regularly showing off their GOs, then they wouldn't be special and there wouldn't be a purpose for this channel

visual forge
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we dont want them common

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we just want a little higher chance

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id be fine with like a 1% chance of getting one

torpid sluice
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even 1% seems high

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that means 1 great one for every 100 whitetail you shoot

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that'd be way too common frankly

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but yeah i'd like if they were a bit more common than they are as well

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for now i'll settle for a diamond, I haven't even seen a single level 3 whitetail in my layton ever

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and i was grinding them fairly hard before the patch that threw their zones all over the place

full cave
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You gotta remember the rares are 0.8 0.6 0.4

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Piebald albino mela

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In reality your go is about as rare as a mela whitetail but things affect that

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e.g GO us is buck only, requires spawning in a high weight class etc

visual forge
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aight then i could go for like 0.1

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cuz isnt at like .006 now

vital geyser
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Jesus .006?

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Thats crazy imo

visual forge
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its crazy crazy low

cerulean palm
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almost like its meant to be really hard to get or something. imagine that...

visual forge
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that moment when a mod is rude

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anyway

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i get its supposed to be hard but idk

cerulean palm
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not rude, stating facts

visual forge
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ya but you could of said it differently?

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not sarcastically?

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imagine that

vital geyser
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I believe especially realistically non typs are a bit more common than melanistics

visual forge
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eh i wouldnt go that far

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idk its cool but its just not realistic therefore i no longer have the incentive and lose interest

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same as a lot of other people

cerulean palm
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if you want realistic classic is the better game option

visual forge
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im not saying the game

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im saying the chances of getting a non typical at .006

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is not realistic, they're more common than people think

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but whatever floats everyones goats its not my game so its just my opinion

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:)

cerulean palm
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yes but its not just the fact its a non typical, its the fact its a great one. if they had introduced non typs you would also get small non typs.

visual forge
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its just my opinion

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....

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arguing or anything isnt gonna change it so

cerulean palm
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the devs do look at the communities opinion though, the more opinions there are aired in here, on facebook etc the better idea they can get of what the community wants

visual forge
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yeah but i am also just one person

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while i like they are listening (though im not too sure they listen to all of it) just because i say something doesnt mean anything

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again, its just a simple opinion

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not meant to offend or anything, or try to change the game

vital geyser
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I just think they should at least make it.01

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Its still very rare

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But not common

visual forge
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im not even sure its .006 i just remember someone saying it was so dont quote me on that

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like im not even sure that those odds are the odds

cerulean palm
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I take it people pull these percentages from game files?

visual forge
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im not sure

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thats why i said dont quote me on it

vital geyser
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Im just stating what ive heard

cerulean palm
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oh I understand why you were saying that, I just feel knowing the numbers ruins the game

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but just my opinion as a fellow player

visual forge
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i mean it does because deep down you know then

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theres no mystery

vital geyser
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Thats understandable

visual forge
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but when it came to this i was a little shocked that it was almost next to none

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which yes i agree they should be hard to get and more rare than anything in the game

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just not THAT low

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if that makes sense

cerulean palm
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it is crazy rare but that was entirely their intention. to make it something that was truly hard to achieve and obtain.

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but yes I agree thats a very low number

visual forge
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thats why its my own opinion and i wont push it on others because to some that is reasonable, and worth hunting

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just not for me, knowing that ill more than likely never get one

vital geyser
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Honestly i wouldnt mind as much about the odds if they made separate non typs for "regular" levels

visual forge
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that would be cool but it would ruin the awesomeness of a great one

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like i said i can totally see where other people are coming from

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i just think the odds are next to none

vital geyser
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I just think the non typs dont have to be epic pike the fableds

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They can be generic ish

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Since the fableds are all massive and thick

cerulean palm
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as they say in the streams look what they have done in classic to get an idea of where COTW will go. there are non typs of all sizes in classic so hopefully they make their way into COTW in the future

visual forge
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maybe one day

full cave
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@visual forge makes it even harder to get one when 100+ kg bucks still spawn with the normal diamond rack šŸ™‚

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2 variations still haven't been posted. I have a good feeling they aren't 100% fixed yet.

vital geyser
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Dont we only have one true variation

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While the others were spawned by hacks

restive briar
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There's 5 or 6 vartiations of the GO rack according to patchnotes. Two versions have been taken legit while the others were shown by hackers so far.

merry sand
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i wish i could see the hacked ones

sudden garden
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No you don't. Hackers almost always ruin games for the rest of us

merry sand
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yes i would like to cause i will never find them in game, so i at least would like to know how they look like@sudden garden

tribal pawn
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not with that attitude

full cave
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no no he has a point

full cave
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A couple are really good looking. The rest are meH. Indeed but there's a lot of content creators that dont chase them cause theres issues. So both sides have a point really.

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Just saying if were really going to be honest about it.

finite jungle
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Hole in the horn buck is the stuff of legends

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Great that you got to see him

sage sparrow
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I've seen the top ten at a competition, but I'm pretty sure the ones I saw were just replicas

thorn vessel
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So after about 1000 harvests post update none of my need zones are spawning bucks did one run yesterday got on today and all does

merry sand
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@thorn vessel destroy all your zones and find new ones

vital geyser
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Si that one guy that saud he got a piebald GO

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Thought he would post the photo already

visual forge
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??

viscid cairn
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@visual forge Someone in this chat said that they saw somebody say that they got a Piebald GO and would post it on facebook by last weekend

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And there is no facebook post feelsbadman

vital geyser
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I want to hope its legit

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But idk if he really taking this long

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Or just hasnt even shot it

tribal pawn
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It's not legit. Just a person seeking attention

visual forge
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thats what im gonna assume it is

full cave
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isnt a piebald go not just piebald

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someone said that awhile ago when it was first mentioned so

tribal pawn
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Fabled piebald is the only variation the devs meant them to have besides albino common and melanistic that we know of

full cave
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so it wouldnt just be piebald

tribal pawn
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Correct

merry sand
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unfortunately the guy on Facebook was lying. He never posted the Piebald Go

mellow matrix
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Of course he was lying. Who uses Facebook anyway.

vital geyser
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EW lmao

strong thorn
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I want to see a new GO

frozen kite
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thicc

visual forge
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damn

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thats an elk?!

strong thorn
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He looks like a red deer

supple tulip
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No that is a Rocky Mountain elk

visual forge
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sheit

strong thorn
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Holy

supple tulip
full cave
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Haha

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That stag above that looks awesome

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I have an antler besides me that’s similar colour and texture

supple tulip
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I mean...
I've got a heart pronghorn already

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Would be nice to get more romantic antlers

visual forge
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lmao

strong thorn
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I think that red boio is fake, dont @me tho

visual forge
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@strong thorn

strong thorn
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Dang my only weakness

visual forge
tribal pawn
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If you think those farmed reddeer are impressive you ain't seen farmed elk they are so much bigger

vital geyser
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GO Prong bois

full cave
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Wide

strong thorn
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You are pooping in the fields and see that coming your way

magic phoenix
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Looks like a texas longhorn and a pronghorn swapped horns/antlers

pliant oak
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it will be interesting to see GO of the big antler species. going to take up half your trophy lodge 😁

magic phoenix
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You know what i wanna see, a great one Rocky Mountain Elk

full cave
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what makes something a "great one"

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the great one is just a non typical whitetail right?

magic phoenix
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Yea

full cave
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what would a great one rme look like

visual forge
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a non typical elk

full cave
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post image is what i meant

finite jungle
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The challenge for making a GO for big antler species might be pretty significant

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The world record whitetails look like GOs, but the world record elk and moose look like level 5s

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So the devs wouldn’t have much to base their design off of

vital geyser
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They basically become red deer

lone hazel
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Bruh what

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These have nothing to do with red deers

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Coz this is not red deer

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Its farm shit that has nothing to do with natural ones

supple tulip
lone hazel
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Farm red deer

supple tulip
lone hazel
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^ this one looks most natural

supple tulip
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Nah man

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NZ is full of resources for them

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And no predators (excluding hunters)

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So they get monstrous

lone hazel
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They do but definitely not like most of red deers that have been posted here

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So basically lvl 7 red deer rack

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One of the most unrealistic racks in the game

supple tulip
lone hazel
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It looks terrible

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This is how big natural red deers can look like

frozen kite
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@lone hazel that is not a farm red deer, NZ red deer get huge

lone hazel
supple tulip
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Dude

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That's a farmed whitetail, but the red deer we are posting pics of are not

frozen kite
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the world record wt is way smaller

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i know a farm when i see it

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also why farm the red stag when they already get huge

supple tulip
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^

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They have all they need and more in NZ

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So they get massive

lone hazel
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xD
I know this wt is farm deer but all these "world record" red deers you've posted here are specially fed safari deers

visual forge
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no u

supple tulip
lone hazel
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About those lvl 7 racks in the game, they would look more normal on potential new zealand map. On hirschfelden they look just dumb xD

supple tulip
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Well you have to use the same animal

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And no one would hunt them on one map if they were always smaller

tribal pawn
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Alot of the reddeer in New Zealand also have elk blood from cross breeding that also makes them bigger than anywhere else

supple tulip
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Oh btw

lone hazel
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Trust me, people who live and see natural european red deer in real life definitely would

supple tulip
tribal pawn
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They have short beams and the people get the best angle for pics they possibly can they are highly overrated

supple tulip
frozen kite
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bruh theres a ranch 3 hours from my house thats on sale with sika deer at it..

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and audad

supple tulip
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@frozen kite Texas I take it?

frozen kite
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i wonder what sika would look like in cotw

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yep

viscid cairn
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Perspective is everything

supple tulip
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Like big axis deer, @frozen kite

frozen kite
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oh yea

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thicc axis deer i saw a 38 inch on one of my hunts

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didnt have a good shot

supple tulip
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Just big axis deer

viscid cairn
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But the bottom one is also alot smaller

inland orbit
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Sth like u did here

frozen kite
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@supple tulip larger than that boy

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massive spread and tall antlers

supple tulip
frozen kite
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larger

inland orbit
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@supple tulip bro have you ever seen sika/red deer irl? xDD

tribal pawn
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@inland orbit correct

supple tulip
frozen kite
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pretty much that yes

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he was crazy big

supple tulip
frozen kite
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thicc sika

viscid cairn
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the rifle is as long as its body lmfao

frozen kite
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what is so unique about them is that they bugle and they are from japan

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and how small their antlers all

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are*

inland orbit
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Eypick be googling WORLD RECORD DEER and taking first photo and then saying this is how big deer looks like xD

supple tulip
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Alright if you bitch about me getting images go get some images

frozen kite
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bruh axis meat is so good

viscid cairn
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@inland orbit well yeah he's right

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A world record deer is a deer

inland orbit
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Yeah, usually farm shit but ye ye deer

viscid cairn
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Yes?

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you're implying that if a deer is farmed then it becomes an alien or some shit

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It's still a deer

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An unreasonably big deer yes but a deer

frozen kite
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well the one i saw

supple tulip
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Huh

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Tbh

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The Axis deer need a rework

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They smol

frozen kite
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yes they do

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they going up to only like 18 inches lmao

supple tulip
frozen kite
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ikr

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yes he had that spread and height

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thicc

supple tulip
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I think they could stay in class 3, but they should really get a remodel and truracs

frozen kite
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i also saw a 8 pointer in velvet during the hunt which was during june

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no they need class 4-5

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243 doesn't do much

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223 cant do shit to those guys

frozen kite
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yes

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lvl 6 max because they are very strong animals

supple tulip
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Also keep in mind, Parque is a Patagonian hunting ranch

frozen kite
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my dad had a intestine shot with a 7mm didnt do much at all

supple tulip
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So the axis deer would get massive like they do on IRL ranches

frozen kite
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took him 2 shots one to the lung and dropped in 1 second

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yea

vital geyser
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The axis deer we currently have are modeled after the Indian ones i believe

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Because they have very similar racks and looks to then

supple tulip
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And it confuses me why they didn't go for Texas axis deer if Parque imported them

strong thorn
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They are quite as big as a whitetail

supple tulip
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Yes

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It's odd cause we already have blackbuck on class 3

strong thorn
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Bigger antlers might mean thicker necks

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But blackbucks IRL are actually dog sized

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Axis should be class 4 or bigger

supple tulip
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I gotta get me a diamond blackbuck

vital geyser
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Should probably start grinding parque tbh

strong thorn
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I like blackbucks and kudus a lot

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But I only have one diamond each

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I don't know how are they going to make em GOs

tribal pawn
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That rack doesnt make diamond for blackbuck anymore

strong thorn
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Yeah only one rack makes it now, before there where like 4 racks that made diamond

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3 of em could be on lvl 4s

tribal pawn
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3 only

strong thorn
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Two of em could be on lvl 4s

tribal pawn
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And lvl 5s could be all the shapes but the smallest one was as big as the 4s got

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After 2.0 the lvl 4s now have the old diamond rack

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If that's what you mean

strong thorn
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Oh maybe

dense temple
vital geyser
strong thorn
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Big boy axis

visual forge
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hows the head being held up if the dude isnt holding it

small meteor
full cave
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classic trophy shots be like

vital geyser
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They didn't buy the hunter poses

full cave
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lmao

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I would just assume his knee is on it and its antlers are making it heavy from the back.

visual forge
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it would fall forward tho

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heads standing straight up with no lean

full cave
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the hunters are low level medusas and so it freezes just no stone

visual forge
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lololol

vital geyser
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Plot twist its actually alive

full cave
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theres blood on its mouth feelsbadman

strong thorn
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That sadly doesn't mean anything he could be wounded to an inch of his life

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Like just about to kick the bucket

viscid cairn
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guys its ok he just got into the barbecue sauce

visual forge
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damnit who didnt put the ketchup away the axis deer got into it

torpid sluice
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man I cannot find a diamond whitetail to save my life

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idk how many hours i've logged in layton just targeting whitetail and to this day I still have not seen a single level 3 whitetail

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i have plenty of max weights but the closest I've gotten to diamond trophy rating was like 259.5

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frustrating

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particularly frustrating since i know there's nothing i can be doing better to increase my chances

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i've got more drink zones on my map than I can visit in the 3.5 hour drink window, and I hit them systematically, i follow max weight tracks when I find them, i'm checking feed zones when I find them, farming all the max weight and big bucks for respawns, trying multiplayer servers, etc.

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just can't get a level 3 to spawn smh

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oh well, back to the grind šŸ˜›

full cave
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Yea man there's something wrong with WT. Hopefully they figure it out and get it fixed. I myself have stopped all together chasing WT cause there's major issues with them. I experienced the same thing. Its beyound ridiculously frustrating. I was afraid of that with the last update. Meaning when they add something or change something with other speices or add stuff it affects other aspects of the game. Which sucks cause in this case they added several new things,"fixed the GO spawns" and it ultimately broke the WT all together. So after waiting several months for the update I myself am beyound disappointed with the results and wont enguage in WT hunting in this game until EW proves theyre fixed. So it may be quite a while. Just play other games or other maps.

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With all the hype EW created months ago with all this has actually been a huge failure in so many ways,has left an extremely sour taste in my mouth. My advise to anybody chasing a GO is to ignore them until WT are proven that theyre fixed. Hopefully they get this original GO working 100% correctly before even thinking of adding another GO.

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But just my opinion.

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The faCT that 1 maybe 2 GOs have been posted since the update launch 2 1/2 months ago just proves the point. Pre patch wed see at least 1 GO or 2 a month.

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Just like we all saw last week a person will "claim" to have shot a GO with no proof and 0 legit GOs posted again proves the point.

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Actually 3 months ago now.

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Please EW fix the WT!!!!!!! And the GO that has been elevated to "legendary status"!! Was meant to bring players "back into the game" not drive us all away from the chase. Just saying.

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And I'm just saying what everybodys thinking but dont want to say.

sonic zinc
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@torpid sluice after almost 200 whitetail I got my first diamond so idk what is wrong but new zones that are back in the bush now just sucks and getting that diamond may be alot harder now...

full cave
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i think thats the point but its made layton a harder map to play on

vital geyser
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I really hope breaking the WT wasn't what they meant when they said "fixed GO spawns"

strong thorn
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If no deer spawn you cant screw it up

full cave
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@vital geyser they fixed a few of the great one racks, but they are still quite broken. Bucks are still being shot over 100kgs. The other 2 rack variants (that I still have the images for) have yet to be posted by anyone.

vital geyser
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Are they racks that are in DD33s discord?

pliant oak
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hopefully the whitetail are revisited and looked over

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they arent as fun to hunt as they were before the change

vital geyser
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And i want them ti revisit their racks

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I think the fabled racks are more realistic than the 3s

full cave
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most of the earlier on truRACS need some adjusting.

full cave
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Yes the general racks need variation esp the diamonds. They need to totally be revisited and improved. I totally agree that they ruined WT with whatever it was that they were trying to achieve. If they wanted WT in unused areas,so to speak,add more pop. Ive got some drink zones over 200 yds away from water. Id say those are feed zones. Or theyre just drinking from mud puddles? Not very realistic to have animals drink I g up in the forest and away from the water source. Mulies are a lot like that too. On SRP Ive got a drink zone for mulies where theyre literally drinking off of pavement. Again just not realistic. It doesnt take a real life hunter to see that its not realistic.

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Again there's several beautiful,cool places on the river system where WT used to be,but the river being a major water source is now a Barron dessert for WT. Such a waste of the art work so to speak.

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If animals are drinking,they should be right on the water source. Thats how it is in real life.

viscid cairn
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Personally i think whitetail have such plain racks because they were the first to get truracs

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Compare them to mule deer which have at least 3 different diamond racks and you can see how far truracs has come

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So yes whitetail racks should definitely be revisited

sudden garden
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I feel the whitetail racks lack thickness

full cave
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they do @sudden garden

sudden garden
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Yea like I sincerely feel the devs should get their hands on real deer antlers

full cave
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I've made this point several times if a buck is going to have 14-16 points it better have main beams thicker than the width of a pencil

sudden garden
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It would help a lot

full cave
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then again a lot of the deer models either lack in the antlers or the body models

vital geyser
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Unless youre axis and lack in both

supple tulip
sudden garden
vital geyser
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Oh god you couldnt do anything near a group with horns like that

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Stab someone while you try to drink

supple tulip
magic phoenix
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Bro can we get a GO Warthog where the tusks are so long they curve into the head

supple tulip
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Yeah like babirusa

magic phoenix
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Exactly

sudden garden
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Trutusks for all pigs would be nice

merry sand
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saw the hacked gos on dd33s channel, look pretty stupid

lime oxide
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I’m pretty sure we are going to get better improvements for the older TruRacs. Seeing how well the new animals in SRP and how TruRed/Mule look. They definently have the potential and skills to redo older TruRacs

vital geyser
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I think especially considering theyre starting to run out of antler species to add to the game

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Thatd be probably their best bet

lime oxide
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Well, there are still a lot left. Blackbuck, Axis Deer, Musk Deer, Springbok, Gemsbok, Cape Buffalo, Warthog, Wild Boar, Lesser Kudu, Wilderbeest,

And possibly: Plains Bison, European Bison

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And not including possible animals TruSkull animals that could possibly come like bears, mountain lions, etc

vital geyser
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True but i mean like new animals in general

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They will probably do a short revisit on the old truracs at some point

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And maybe we can get some smexy whitetails

lime oxide
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Hopefully

lilac maple
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what is the average time for running across a great one? is there an average time ? Ive been grinding whitetail for 2 weeks and havent ran across anything but a possible track that was a heavy animal

vital geyser
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Well i mean the fabled update came out right before may

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And the first fabled was shot around may 1st actually

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But people like flinter havent shot one until like 2-3 months ago

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So i mean if you put the time i to grinding it youll get jt eventually

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But considering no other fabled racks seem to be showing up along with WT having weird drink zones and I havent seen a GO in a while

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Itll take you a bit or you my get it tomorrow

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All i can say is best of luck keep the grind up and itll pay off

lilac maple
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Right on ,I get it ,thank you @vital geyser

pliant oak
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what is the average time for running across a great one? is there an average time ? Ive been grinding whitetail for 2 weeks and havent ran across anything but a possible track that was a heavy animal
@lilac maple there is none really someone worked out somekinda percentage and it was very very low since then whitetail have been changed also whitetails that should be gos are spawning with higher than normal weight over 100kg or left over . also the zones have changed. so now its even harder than before.

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i spent a month grinding them all day every day

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shot about 1500 had one whitetail that should of been a GO but it was one of the fake over weight ones

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105kg

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personally think they should return the whitetail to how they were i dont think that would happen though but it was more fun to hunt them. the zones now and how they split them up will make it a lot harder to find a GO than before. so it was very hard before now its very very very hard.

lilac maple
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Wow,that's very disconcerting.@pliant oak I suppose all I can do is either keep at it or just hunt as normal. Pity. Thanks for the info.

pliant oak
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no just keep at it

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the thing is you never know the next one could be a GO

vital geyser
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They might talk about it in todays stream

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Or you can try to talk about it

magic phoenix
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Can we get a great one red deetmr which is literally a diamond but with insane rack size

pliant oak
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They might talk about it in todays stream
@vital geyser there was a little chat about it little funny tk mentioned flinter when i spent a month on about it 😁

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one day...one day...šŸ˜†

vital geyser
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Lol rest in peace man

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Im glad he at least mentioned the zone issues

pliant oak
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yeah ideally id just put it back to how it was pre patch

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it was more fun to hunt whitetails

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the only thing that really needed changing was getting rid of phantom GOs

small meteor
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TK said he would ask the devs about it and get some info for us about these issues.

torpid sluice
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i didn't think i'd say this but i kind of like it better now than how it was before tbh

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it was very annoying having all my WT zones wiped and having to re-find herds and set up new tents and tripods but

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the old way where going after whitetail was literally a run, where you just made your way upriver and scoped all the zones along the way and shot for respawns was extremely gamey

supple tulip
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I think it's annoying and rather bizarre where they drink so far from water

torpid sluice
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it's just as grindy now obviously but at least there is some variety in the terrain they're in

supple tulip
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But I think it's neat to have them stick to foliage

torpid sluice
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and rn i have more drink zones than i can cover in the 12-15:30 drink time

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so it's not like i'm lacking for places to hunt them

small meteor
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Its more about the change not being mentioned in any patchnotes: it came as a suprise to many so people wanted some clarification

torpid sluice
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yes exactly i agree

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i originally had thought they put it in the notes, in a cryptic way like "fixed whitetail spawn zones" but i rechecked twice and there's absolutely nothing in there about it

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and that wasn't the right thing to do

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it's also kinda weird how they seemingly moved literally all the whitetail except 1-2 herds away from highton river, such that the area that used to have almost all the whitetail on the map now has almost none

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but ultimately i'm alright with it now that i've re-found their zones and done my setups (of course if they change it again i'm gonna have to do that all over again for a third time lmao)

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there's one zone i have that i really really hope doesn't get changed because it almost always has at least 2 max weight bucks drinking there

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and it's wide open so i can pretty much always see them from my tripod without having to move around

pliant oak
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it not being mentioned in a patch notes is a big a thing and ive said this already all changes need to be mentioned . sometimes though things will happen by mistake or bug that is unforseen.

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mule deer i can tell you from hunting them every day all day since the truracs patch are not the same as they were previously

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some will debate this but i can tell you from hunting them 24/7 for 3 weeks solid the rarity of diamond truracs mule deer isnt the same as pre patch

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sometimes what happens in a perfect coding enviroment isnt the same as ingame

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@torpid sluice your zone will change.

torpid sluice
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if they code it as such it will

pliant oak
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they do change regardless of if you kill them or dont

torpid sluice
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don't think there's much point in speculating what will definitely happen to a map or not when EW hasn't expressly said what, if anything, it will do to whitetail on layton

pliant oak
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from what i noticed hunting them for 1 month solid all day every day

torpid sluice
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they change if you blow them up by overharvesting

pliant oak
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no sometimes they just vanish

torpid sluice
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afaik they don't just disappear randomly unless it's from overharvesting or due to multiplayer

pliant oak
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why who knows?

torpid sluice
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but i keep a backup need zones locations file to copy over after i finish a multiplayer session

pliant oak
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flinter had this also

torpid sluice
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idk, not saying it's impossible but i haven't had a zone spontaneously vanish without an overharvest, overwrite due to multiplayer, or game update

pliant oak
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i think some zones overlap

torpid sluice
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so i'll work that zone as long as it's there šŸ˜›

pliant oak
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odd times or some weirdness

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i think the hard thing to get right is some people on one hand want to grind to get a great one

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some are happy with maybe getting one through luck

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some are happy just know they might be there but not bothered if they see one

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to cater for all people its hard

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as the system has to work for all

torpid sluice
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if I never got one for the entirety of the game's lifespan I'd be disappointed but i wouldn't feel cheated

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they should be so rare that most players, even most players who really grind whitetail, will never get one

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it shouldn't be a guarantee that comes with dedicating a disproportionate amount of hunting time to whitetail imo

full cave
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great ones are still bugged that's why a lot of people stopped grinding whitetail.

sudden garden
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Is there a pic of the first GO?

supple tulip
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@restive briar

heady lintel
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Actually... they are pinned in this channel too.

magic phoenix
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You know what i wanna see?

The whitetails fighting multimount with 2 GOs

magic phoenix
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Precisely

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Especially an albino and piebald

vital geyser
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Piebald v Fabled Piebald

magic phoenix
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Bruh

full cave
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I agree. If theyre way up in the forest or foliage tjeyre not actually drinking but should be feed zones. Ive never seen a WT in real life drinking from the forest floor or off a road. If theyre drinking its from a water source. Also if people are WT hunters and thats what they play the game for its beyound disappointing if they dedicate their time to WTs if I played through the games entirety of its life span and never saw a GO is a major bust. Thats not reality. The more time IRL you spend chasing trophies,the greater the chance you have of seeing one. So on one hand they want the game to be realistic,but on the other hand they make it "just a video game". When animals drink off of roads or in forest or have a monster trophy that nobody has a chance at,is just a video game style of hunting. I myself am confused as to what the real "style" of game this is? Is it just a game to have fun with or is it an unrealistic "reality" video game? It is nice to have "different scenery" that theyre in but now in a lot of my zones its not realistic to watch them drinking out of a bush. Plus the rivers beautiful in many areas but "unrealistic" that there's no deer around the river. Just my opinion. I live in WT country IRL. So what WT have become in this game is very strange to me.

full cave
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Just watched the stream from today. Glad question was asked about WT and they'll be looking into it. I dont think people are "complaining" about WT just stating observations about the new way WT zones are and issues with them. Some put hundreds of hours into the game in pursuit of a GO and notice the "issues" and try to raise them so they get addressed so to speak.

full cave
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Some see "complaints" others see "constructive criticism".

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But that kind of "feed back" about "complaints" is why I dont play the game anymore for WT and the GO. If I'm bored will play SRP because I love deer hunting so the new mulies will do. When I get bored of chasing Mulies in the same old environment theres another option and you can change things up and not see the same old scenerie over and over. But as far as chasing the GO and WT my IRL time is better of investing into other games or real life activities. 😹😹 There's issues and WT are only on one single map that gets beyound boring chasing the same 5 "antler variations" in the same map over and over until you get so sick of that one map that theyre on. But again just one players feed back or "complaint" so to speak. 😹

past sleet
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I don’t have a complaint or criticism I just have a simple question are the great ones possible to get? About two months ago EW came out and said that they had fixed the bug that was causing the great one to spawn back as a white tail with a higher weight total. Is this bug fixed or not? Should I keep trying to hunt for a great one?

full cave
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you can get them, but as we know of 2 variations in specific haven't been posted and they can still spawn with the over 100kg weight, but have a normal diamond rack.

past sleet
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@full cave Thank you that’s all I needed to hear.

magic phoenix
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Can we remodel the great onea so they look like fat deer

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And they weigh 150kg

vital geyser
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Not mine but someone on reddit got a phantom GO i think

cerulean palm
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ah so they are still there..interesting

full cave
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Oh yea. Theyve been there the entire time. Ive shot at least 3. That was supposed to be fixed like 2 patches ago?

cerulean palm
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I hadnt seen any since the last patch thats all.

vital geyser
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So im guessing GOs are more common that i thought

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They are just broken in terms of rack diversity

full cave
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I hope they know about that issue. It's one of the bigger bugs in the game imo. You grind hours and hours (for some people hundreds of hours) killed hundreds of whitetail. Then you get one of the over weight bucks like myself. That's a pretty easy way to lose people.

vital geyser
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I mean there was that fixed GO spawn thing but we should definitely try to bring it up again if they arent already aware of it

magic phoenix
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Guys we need to get a GO Red Deer Which Literally Has lots of abnormal tines

full cave
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I think they need to get the first GO to function perfectly first before adding more. Otherwise whats the point? Lol

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^

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I totally agree Mchunter. Thats my point as of lately. Ive shot many,many,many diamonds and hundreds upon hundreds of deer in between each over weight diamonds. So I def wouldnt call them common. Thats all Ive played the game for and what brought me all the way back into the game. Yes Ive been venting a lot but thats to be expected esp after Wait ing months for an update that just made things worse and why I wont continue until theres proof that everythings fixed cause I'm so tired of wasting my real life time.

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And just a thought,I dont believe its a coincidence that after the patch was released to PC months ago that all of a sudden we rarely ever see a GO posted now days. Pre patch there were at least 1-2 a month posted. Some may say thats a lot but is it really when you consider thousands of people were putting in untold number of thousands of hours and thats all we saw? Seems about right. Now we see little to non and see way too many people lying about shooting one or hacking them.into their games. That in itself is an indicator its too rare esp considering theres 6 of them. If the point of their "rarity" is less than 1/2 a percent of people will actually see 9ne,again whats the point? They could be paying all the people who created them and their hundreds of hours of development into other aspects of the game that'll keep.people interested in staying with the game. Just a thought.

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After all,its just a video game. If I put that many hours into Real life hunting,I'll come across way more trophies than this video game offers.

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@full cave I've been trying to bring it up for months at this point. Emailed the support team 3-4 times about this topic. Feels pretty ignored to me. I would think the rarest animal in the game would be more important to fix. Imagine being that guy who worked for hundreds of hours to get one and got trolled at the end like me...

That was my first step towards not playing the game anymore.

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Yes exactly!! And same here. Cause thats the species I love and am obsessed with IRL. Ive done the same as well with support. That was the entire point of the GO is to have an insane trophy that brought players back into the game. Thats hasnt exactly worked out as intended. So since support isnt responding Ive went wild here "hoping" they'll get the point. But yes if I was one of the artists that played apart in creating these guys,Id be happy to collect the paycheck but severely disappointed that literally nobody would enjoy my master piece. Thats also why I'm so bummed about whats happened with the new need zones. There's many awesome,beautiful spots on the river where WT used to use but are now non existent cause a lot of my zones on console the deer drink from bushes or in the forest far away from water. Its the opposite of a "realistic/realitybased" video game.

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Ive never once in real life seen an WT deer drink from a bush or on a road. So far from realistic.

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Also if anybody happens to actually get a GO. Can you please make sure to take a pic of their track?!??! The GO track is supposed to look differnt,stand out beyound doubt that there's a huge monster around. That was supposed to be fixed from the beginning and so far the proof says it's not fixed. The very few people Ive talked to said there was no difference in their tracks to any other WT track. So off of that proof that issue hasnt been corrected either.

full cave
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And just a nother thought here as well. One thing that really bothered me about yesterdays stream,is mods here say we are "complaining" here. No were not actually. Some of us really love the game and experience "flaws" in the game that for whatever reason the team doesnt experience in the "dev build" or whatever its called. We the people put in the time in this product to help support and make it what it is today. We "complainers" are just trying to help. While also following the rules cause we want the team to know about issues so they get fixed. So take it as feed back and not just people "complaining" or intentionally trying to "start stuff" and be "trolling" . Put trust into the players that love the game.

worldly girder
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And just a nother thought here as well. One thing that really bothered me about yesterdays stream,is mods here say we are "complaining" here. No were not actually. Some of us really love the game and experience "flaws" in the game that for whatever reason the team doesnt experience in the "dev build" or whatever its called. We the people put in the time in this product to help support and make it what it is today. We "complainers" are just trying to help. While also following the rules cause we want the team to know about issues so they get fixed. So take it as feed back and not just people "complaining" or intentionally trying to "start stuff" and be "trolling" . Put trust into the players that love the game.
@full cave

wise crane
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The tracks are the same as any other whitetail track, you can't tell it Is a big one untill you see 97 - 110 kg

neon cedar
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All GOs have been strictly from PC players right?

full cave
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Pretty sure there’s been an Xbox one.

neon cedar
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I thought GOs were completely bugged for console players, or at least that's what it was whenever they initially released GOs

full cave
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they work they're just slightly broken still

neon cedar
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Ah just wasn't sure cause I remember that being the buzz for console players when GOs were released.

torpid sluice
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took so many dozens of hours of grinding, found him at the southern tip of south lake (the big lake northwest of mushroom lake)

magic phoenix
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Umm this for GOs but okay

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Pretty sure

mellow matrix
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@magic phoenix he probably got it while grinding for the GO

torpid sluice
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i was

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all the chat in here and you have a problem with that of all things lmao

mellow matrix
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Yeah people will complain about anything

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Even little crap

torpid sluice
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obviously still on the GO grind but i'm happy to at least have gotten that

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was literally the first class 3 i've ever seen and i have like 300 hours

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and at least like 120 of those hours were on layton hunting whitetail and blacktail to a lesser extent

mellow matrix
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Yea I still haven’t gotten a diamond since I started the GO grind. Mainly cause my need zones are constantly deleting themselves and changing

torpid sluice
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yeah i had one really good new zone since the update that depopulated

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have had a few depopulate actually, idk what causes it since it wasn't overharvesting or due to multiplayer

mellow matrix
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Yea

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Hopefully they fix it soon but I highly doubt it

torpid sluice
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i get the sense they're gonna do something to whitetail again, based on the stream the other day, it sounds like they know people wanna see some change away from what they did last update

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have no idea what that something will be though

mellow matrix
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They just need to find something and stick to it. Not just with whitetail but with the game in general

full cave
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Congrats on the diamond. Those are way rarer than Pre patch WT for some reason.

torpid sluice
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yeah TK did say that they've cut like 50% of their planned new content in favor of dedicating that dev time to bugfixes

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which is good, but i still think they should get in the habit of doing hotfixes, it's odd that they don't

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especially for serious bugs

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thanks @full cave and yeah they do seem rare as hell now lol

full cave
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Yea I saw that. Thats a very smart move IMO. Yes theyre very rare these days!! So enjoy that one!! May be a while till you see another. Lol

torpid sluice
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i usually do like, start at 5 am and hit my whitetail feed zones and when i run out i go after blacktail until 9, then either skip to 12:40 or hunt moose till then, and then hunt WT drink zones

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and in 100+ hours of that i got 6 diamond blacktails and 0 diamond whitetails lol

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so yeah they definitely seem to be rare

full cave
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Nice. Good strat. When I chased WT all the time Id do the same. I'd hit am FZ,then DZ them pm FZ. A lot of the feed zones werent that hard to hunt. So it maximised the chance at getting deer I would see or that I couldnt get at in their DZ in time.

magic phoenix
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@torpid sluice im sorry im kinda dumb

torpid sluice
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no worries bro it's all love

solid agate
visual forge
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still got me fucked up on the fact its head is staying straight up with nothing holding it

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heads too big for it to lean against guys knee

vital geyser
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Yeah idk how its doing that

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Gotta get an explanation

fossil spear
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Probably has it propped up with a stick

supple tulip
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Or like fishing line or something

visual forge
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theres no way

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not with a stick

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but maybe a fishing line

magic phoenix
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I wanna see a GO fallow deer where the antlers are literally massive

vital geyser
finite jungle
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@magic phoenix so a moose

magic phoenix
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Yes

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But bigger

magic phoenix
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Can we get a saber toothed puma GO

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Or a musk deer that has walrus tusk sized fangs

finite jungle
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GO water buffalo. The horns droop down to the ground and curl back up above the head in a heart shape

magic phoenix
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GO Beceite Ibex. Literally just horns

lilac maple
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Go wabbit with huge ears amd a cottantail like a mop šŸ˜›

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Just being silly ,but probably more possible than the gO whitetail ,I sat on a wt needzone 4 hours and saw 2 whitetail 😦

full cave
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So just wondering if there's a single console player that has even seen a GO since the "post patch" in the last 5 weeks?????

supple tulip
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Well they are broken last time I checked

full cave
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I know WT have changed amd are "broken" I saw last weeks update where "they will look into it" . just wondering cause I avoid the game like the "plaque" or the "corona" and havent played the game since or paid any attention to the discord. Just wondering just incase I'm wrong and they actually are spawning. Thanks EYEPICK. Just checking incase I missed something. So hopefully within the next couple months there will be a "fix" . Back to other games I GO. Lol Pun intended 😹😹Glad I waited 2 months for the update 5 weeks aGO . Lol 😹

full cave
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Funniest part is after almost 5 months since the GOs inception that theyre still not working properly and the related species are worse than ever. Hopefully with the new change of dedicating more of the staff being dedicated to fixing bugs instead of cramming out new DLCs to buy that they can get the GO and related species to function properly and realistically.

crude granite
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That would be great because I am currently trying to get the GO on ps4 so I will take a break if what you say is true and try for another rare in the mean time

full cave
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That would be great because I am currently trying to get the GO on ps4 so I will take a break if what you say is true and try for another rare in the mean time
@crude granite it's definitely true

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I bet you it's the last 2 rack variations not spawning is the issue.

ocean orchid
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@full cave How many rack variations are there?

crude granite
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So there is a chance of it spawning you just have to be really lucky with getting the right rack?

full cave
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Well I have screenshots of 4 and (two of them were hacked in)

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not me of course, from someone else who did such thing

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So there is a chance of it spawning you just have to be really lucky with getting the right rack?
@crude granite no chance. If they aren't the 2 rack shapes already in game you'll get a 102+ kg whitetail every time. With a normal diamond rack.

crude granite
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I think I am just fishing for the answer I want :( Will wait for an official announcement for a fix. Thank you for confirming it for me and saving me a ton of time šŸ‘

tribal pawn
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6 GO racks for whitetail. Only 2 are "spawning correctly" as far as we know

full cave
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šŸ¤” I wonder what the 6th one looks like

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Hopefully it will look better than the main one we've all seen by now.

main berry
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They were posted here by modders they look really good by i wish I could unsee them

full cave
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yeah I have those screenshots, from them, but I only have 5 in total

main berry
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šŸ¤”

full cave
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It'll be a while before all of them are fixed I'm sure. My guess is 8 months šŸ˜‚

main berry
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Still cant see mine in the lodge xd

full cave
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that'll probably never get fixed

main berry
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Sadly

full cave
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I'm not surprised.

crude granite
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Such ashame as it really pulled me back into the game. To find out they are broken is hard to stomach

full cave
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it's even harder when you should have gotten one, but they're bugged so you get an overweight diamond instead.

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that lost 70% of my motivation to play the game.

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I've talked with support about it and they literally asked

"what map is this on" when I was talking about the great one whitetail 🤣

crude granite
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Yeah that's really rough. At least I had only just started grinding! I can't imagine it would be a massive patch either

full cave
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shows how much they know

violet schooner
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I've talked with support about it and they literally asked

"what map is this on" when I was talking about the great one whitetail 🤣
@full cave BRUH

full cave
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I still have the email

violet schooner
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Ya think they’d know their own game

full cave
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I sent them screenshots of the ones that aren't spawning and what the issues is, they asked if I could clip the next one I get. My response would have been

"no, I don't play the game anymore."

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too buggy for me :S

crude granite
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Wow really!? This game has so much potential. If another top game designer wanted to challenge it, might be the push EW needs

full cave
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another one is around the corner, "soon" is the word on the street šŸ˜‰

violet schooner
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I bet their will be a hunting game soon that shits on all the rest

full cave
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if you look up "ultimate games hunt game" you'll find news about it.

violet schooner
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Hmm

full cave
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hunting*

violet schooner
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Could be good could be shit

crude granite
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Oh! I mean the hunting game community is really been patient so if another great hunting sim dropped im sure lots of them would shift

full cave
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the bighorn models are 12x better than cotw's

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EW will really be in some serious trouble if the gameplay is as amazing as the audio and models.

violet schooner
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What is this game

full cave
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doesn't have a name yet.

violet schooner
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How? What?

full cave
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I'll send you more information in DMs later if you want?

violet schooner
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Sure

full cave
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who's?

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we aren't even talking about that game lol

vital geyser
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I remember when people talked about hunting sim 2 crushing COTW

full cave
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it never stood a chance because HS1 was garbo as well.

full cave
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Yea its pretty bad. As diamonds seem to be at the same percentage as piebalds. Way too rare for diamonds and esp with the GO depending on respawns. Pre patch it seemed youd maybe have a chance if you dedicated 4-6 months grinding. At this pace maybe you'll find a GO in a year or two of grinding. Id k when the last GO shot has been reported. Its been months. But post patch has affected that severely. The patch has been available for around 3 months and we've seen 1 posted? I could be wrong,maybe 2 or maybe non. Eother way it's way too rare and the new "set up" for WT makes it nearly impossible. Such a shame.

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I guess if you have no life and put in 6-10 hours a day of grinding over and over maybe its fun? But for anybody who's an average player with work and real life responsibilities its just a joke and a "ploy" to keep people interested. Just my opinion but have better things to do in live. 😹😹😹😹😹

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Id love to see a new game esp with "working water fowl" and "upland birds" or "monster" WTs!! I'm in for that!!! A video game is for fun and hearing 2 streams ago TK say theyve added to mallards pop made me laugh. I'm mean really,mallards right now just swim in circles and you hunt them with a rifle. We dont need more of that. We need them to perform like geese and be realistic,not even more of them swimming in circles and being annoying as f. Bit just my opinion.

strong thorn
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has a new GO been added? or WT are still screwed?

viscid cairn
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I think it was said that the next GO will not be announced, only found out about when it’s, well, found

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But I assume it will be on Hirsch or Layton since otherwise it might deter players who don’t have the dlc maps from trying to get a GO

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Plus it will be much more accessible to hunt them for new players that way

supple tulip
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True

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šŸ¤”what about red deer?

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Or roe?

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Something on other maps as well as Hirsch

viscid cairn
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If the diamonds stay the size they are, then a GO reddeer rack will be the size of its body

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i wonder how predator GO will be handled

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If it’s something planned at all

supple tulip
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Nah the current big diamond red stags’ antlers are the size of its body

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Wait what if it isn’t for an antlered animal at all?

viscid cairn
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lol yeah

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like bugged?

supple tulip
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What if it’s for hogs or so something?

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No not like bugged

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Just they’re fucking huuuuge

viscid cairn
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I think it would have to be a map-specific animal though

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Otherwise it increases the chances

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(Of finding one)

supple tulip
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I don’t think so

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Cause aren’t they planning to do a lot more?

viscid cairn
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Like your reddeer example, everyone would theoretically have twice the chance of finding one as long as they have parque

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hmm

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idk

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Maybe it’s only the first few animals that will be map specific

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Or maybe I am totally wrong

supple tulip
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What if...
It goes to Reindeer on Medved

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And no one will ever know

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Cause no one plays Medved

viscid cairn
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full circle antlers..

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that moment when medved has the best landscape and an epic super rare but it’s the most slept on map feelsbadman

supple tulip
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Yeah

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I’ve been playing it a bunch

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It’s honestly my favorite map

viscid cairn
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i’ve noticed lol

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that moment when medved has the best landscape and an epic super rare but it’s the most slept on map feelsbadman
although ill admit i have slept on it for a while

supple tulip
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Yeah why do you think people don’t play Medved so often?

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Same

viscid cairn
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maybe the barenness of it

full cave
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What animals it got

viscid cairn
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That’s a word now

supple tulip
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Bareness is a word

viscid cairn
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Musk deer, Brown Bear, Boar, Reindeer, Moose,

supple tulip
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But yeah I agree

viscid cairn
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ah

full cave
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Not interested in those animals

supple tulip
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Although Yukon is the same

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Well

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Similar

full cave
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Yukon got wolfs

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I hunt wolfs

supple tulip
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Ah

full cave
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I go to the burnt forest and have a path I take

viscid cairn
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Not interested in those animals
not even glorious soviet caribou

supple tulip
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To be honest, I’m really hoping for capercaillie, snow sheep, and wolf to come to Medved

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The reindeer look so much better than the caribou model-wise

viscid cairn
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I would love wolf

supple tulip
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A lot less.. lumpy

viscid cairn
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Although that would make it yukon’s twin more or less

supple tulip
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I guess

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Well they are twins

viscid cairn
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true

full cave
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I like how it snows on Yukon sometimes

supple tulip
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Alaska and Siberia used to be conjoined twins at a point

full cave
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It’s pretty when it snows

viscid cairn
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@full cave same but sometimes it’s so sudden

supple tulip
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Yeah I think if it snowed more on Yukon, and the snow stayed longer, I’d play Yukon more

full cave
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Do scents in the game work

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Or no

supple tulip
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Yes

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But it’s up to chance

viscid cairn
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Like, I’ll go get a glass of water and come back and it’s snow everywhere

full cave
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But it’s up to chance
Wdym

supple tulip
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With scent spray, there’s a chance they won’t smell you

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And a chance they’ll come to the smell if you’re using that scent spray

full cave
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I meant animal scent

supple tulip
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Ah

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Then yeah

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It’s a chance for the animal to come to animal scent spray

full cave
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O

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I sleep now

viscid cairn
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Good night

supple tulip
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It’s usually just easier, cheaper, and more effective to use callers

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Guten nacht, Dimmy

full cave
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Got so much school stuff to do and missing

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Got an F

supple tulip
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Don’t we all...

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Well I won’t keep you

full cave
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Luckily school opens up next week

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And yes, see you

supple tulip
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@viscid cairn care to talk more about Medved?

viscid cairn
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Sure

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although we should move to general then

supple tulip
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Aye

full cave
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has a new GO been added? or WT are still screwed?
@strong thorn no new great one, great one whitetail are VERY screwed up along with whitetail in general. When will it be fixed? Not sure. Knowing how most things go it'll be 6+ months.

crude granite
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It was really exciting for me to have something like a great one to hunt! I am a player that likes to have something rare to aim for so when this was announced it, it was a fantastic idea, I set up my map and then slowly I realised that they weren't working properly and then started listening to the community and a fix seemed way off is frustrating. I think it could have been so great and has ended up leaving lots of players like me frustrated. I know if it was my company that I would have put out a hot fix for this

vital geyser
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Its a shame actually

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Some of the GOs look awesome that ive seen

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And for them to be broken it just sucks

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And theyre probably thinking of adding another soon while WT are broken

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Im probably still going to try to grind whitetail i have a setup and have found a few good spots on the water

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But my god its go8ng to be a long hunt

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And does anyone know if fabled piebalds are for normal WT or just GOs

crude granite
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Because I have my map and zones dialed in, I am just going to try for a diamond then wait for a patch

full cave
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Just for the GO @past linden

past linden
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Huh?

full cave
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Sorry. Hit the wrong button

past linden
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Poggers

full cave
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That was for beta

vital geyser
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Yeah thats what im doing

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Even though the drink zones are broken their levels arent

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Besides the phantom GOs I can still at least help my chances with a diamond or the GOs that are currently working

crude granite
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@vital geyser Let me know how you get on, I am going to do the same. If I know it's possible I will still go after it, even though my chances are slim

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I also don't get board hunting Whitetail

vital geyser
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I was able to set some stands and tents at some of the lakes that i find a decent group of WT at

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And i just run qround and shoot

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So i dont get bored i hunt axis and/or mule deer before WT drink time

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It seems to have been working well so far shot like 5 max weight estimates today

crude granite
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@vital geyser I am trying yhe hard management theory that has been thrown about. Will keep you posted on how I get on

vital geyser
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Whts tge hard management theory?

viscid cairn
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@supple tulip roebuck you say?

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WaW flashbacks

crude granite
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If you go to YouTube and look for jaxy beard and search for his heard management vid. Flinter has also mentioned it. You find a herd and only shoot the largest male it the heard. Leave any level ones and all the mid sized ones alive. The theory is that yhe game balances each herd and you will get larger respawns if you only shoot the largest (in theory) If you shoot all miles you will find that you will always get a herd with mostly mid sized animals respawning and it will take a lot more kills to reach a diamond respawn. Hope that makes sense. I am trying it out at the moment and have just gotten a nice piebald male response today.

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Its unproven but I will try anything atm 😩

supple tulip
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Inb4 troll GOs are a thing and we just do not know

vital geyser
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Ah yeah i remember somethinf like that

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Might try that as well, ive just been shooting every male

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And i swear if GOs can troll even to diamonds

tribal pawn
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@crude granite that was a myth made up by a hacker that doesn't work

crude granite
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Oh! Well I feel stupid and @vital geyser forget it m8 just shoot everything šŸ˜„

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I think I am just looking for an answer that isn't there! Just got to be patient and wait for that patch!

vital geyser
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Oh yeah if/when they do that patch and fix the GOs itll be a lot more fun

full cave
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it won't be fixed for quite a while I would imagine

crude granite
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Well TK did say that EW are putting efforts into bugs instead of dlc so fingers crossed

full cave
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I'll believe it when I see it.

strong thorn
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yeah EW likes its money

supple tulip
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Well it’s a company

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It has to stay afloat

vital geyser
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Well

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Found the blacktail EW probably got inspiration from

supple tulip
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Nah that one has got too much mass

vital geyser
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True but in terms of the tines and shape it seems to be almost exact

supple tulip
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Yeah

vital geyser
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Blacktail do need much thicker antlers

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And their color should be more brown

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Like the mule deer

supple tulip
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And larger antlers

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And more rack-shapes

vital geyser
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Definitely a lot more rack shapes

supple tulip
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Honestly they gotta fix earlier truracs

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Like whitetail, blacktail, moose, Roosevelt, etc

vital geyser
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Oh yeah they need a lot of fixing

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I think moose are alright though

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Just their scoring is wack

supple tulip
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Yeah

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Apart from the scoring, the texture is kinda funky

vital geyser
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A lot of the earlier textures are weird

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and for WT I dont know why the tips of their tines are white like that

supple tulip
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Yeah Imma go get screenshots

vital geyser
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Yeah I can see what you mean

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Tbh I think the moose need the least work

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Their color never really phaased me

violet schooner
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Whitetail rework🦌

supple tulip
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Tbh I could never have another gun pack and be pretty pleased as long as they were working to make the animals look better

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Whitetail rework I would love

vital geyser
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Well its those frosted tips

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The giant G2s

supple tulip
vital geyser
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All of them being 14-16 pointers

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But all of the tines are so short

violet schooner
supple tulip
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Yeah and like the one rack-type

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Gets bland really quick

vital geyser
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every diamond looks the same

supple tulip
violet schooner
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Indeed

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No u can’t

supple tulip
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Weird

vital geyser
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would love to get a leucistic variant for WT

supple tulip
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Honestly, I think Layton needs an update for its animals

violet schooner
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Would love antlers that didn’t look like crinkled up paper

supple tulip
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Model tweaks, Trurac tweaks, bug fixes, animal fixes

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Like why aren't there rare black bear?

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It's so weird

vital geyser
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This is what a whitetail the size of the diamonds should look like

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The mule deer have better whitetail racks

supple tulip
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Honestly I think whitetail as such an early Trurac was a bit of a poor choice

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Whitetail are amazingly diverse for deer

violet schooner
vital geyser
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Tbh I think the GOs are pretty good

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and show how much better their trurac making has gotten

violet schooner
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They could also make the coats more saturated and darker

supple tulip
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Yeah

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That's an issue that seems to plague a lot of CotW animals

violet schooner
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Best modeled animal in cotw is pronghorn I’d have to say

vital geyser
#

I think the pronghorn look the most realistic to their real life counterpart

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and same goes for their horns

supple tulip
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I agree they nailed the pronghorn

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The bighorn are looking pretty great too now

vital geyser
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Although I wish the bighorn didn't curl so tight

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I think they look descent

tribal pawn
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The horns on the big ones are worse than anything else in the game

vital geyser
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Yeah I hate how close they are to the head

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And basically all they had to do was copy paste muflon

supple tulip
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Well not really

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Bighorns curl a lot more, and have a lot more mass

full cave
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@supple tulip probably because the "perfect whitetail" to them is an 8x8

supple tulip
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They're a European company, right?

full cave
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they also have whitetail lol

supple tulip
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Exactly

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I should think they'd know how to do them

full cave
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pretty much all bucks that score in that low to mid gold range are horrendous

supple tulip
#

Especially with how popular whitetail are, finding a good reference shouldn't be hard at all

full cave
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let's give them pencils for main beams, but let's also give them 14-16 points

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the antlers are passable, but they're way too fat

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the body models that is

supple tulip
#

Tbh I don't mind how many points they could've added

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but the length is the issue

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And the configuration of the points

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Cause you've got 16 points that look nothing like the CotW whitetail

full cave
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to be fair whitetail were apart of the early stage truRACS, which most of them in that group being rough

supple tulip
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Yeah

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I just hope they'll update them and a couple other older animals

full cave
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yeah once everything get's truRACS, which will be what. 3-4 years I would imagine?

supple tulip
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Everything?

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Even bison?

full cave
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pretty sure that is what was said

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"after all the species have truRACS" or something like that

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so really that would mean bear, wolves, mountain lions, coyotes and lynx in that group as well then

supple tulip
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Also I think they said they want to keep supporting the game 'til at least 2023

full cave
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it'll be around longer than that

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came out in 2017 iirc and look how old classic is (which is still being supported)

supple tulip
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Well comparing Classic to CotW doesn't work

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Classic is very different gameplay and development-wise

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Like with Classic I was told of a lighting bug, and the very next day it got patched

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Meanwhile, we have moose scoring that haven't gotten diamond in who knows when

full cave
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Meh trueracs should be finshed within a year and a bit.

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Most of these horns are all the same presence.

vital geyser
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I think considering from a business standpoint they will do at least 10 years with cotw like classic

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Because i believe they still nake decent money on this game