🦌︴great-ones

[supple tulip]

Senor moose rolls up outta da woodz

[visual forge]

again

shit my pants

[strong thorn]

Meh meese are poop

[visual forge]

a big meese on ur wall will change ur mind

[supple tulip]

Yeah tbh, just something about the CotW moose feels off

[mighty oyster]

^^

[sudden garden]

The face mostly

An animal's face is the most important thing to get right IMO because once you mount it, that's what you're staring at all the time

[strong thorn]

I don't like them because bison dies faster than them

[supple tulip]

A lot of it is the nose tbh

And the texture looks too smooth

[tribal pawn]

Moose are too blonde in cotw and are the fastest mofos in the game

That's the problem

[strong thorn]

Might be true

[neon cedar]

I see more blonde looking moose and when I think I see a darker colored moose it turns out to be the bad lighting

[pearl tendon]

IMHO I think buffalo are the fastest because they go light speed when they’re away from their herd

[sudden garden]

Bison in this game are slow as shit

[supple tulip]

Well until they get bugged and go a million miles per hour

[pearl tendon]

If you wanna see slow animals to play hunting sim 2. You run faster than the deer which is sad

[strong thorn]

I don't think I'm getting hunter sim, wanna go to #🦝︴off-topic to talk about it?

[supple tulip]

You can run after deer
You just really gotta want it

[sharp junco]

The euro bison are so slow i almost feel bad for them when i see them desprately trying to escape XD

[sage sparrow]

Great one mallard

[sudden garden]

Yea I've seen bison videos irl and those fuckers can run

[strong thorn]

All animals can

[supple tulip]

No no

Bison can run

They evolved to be a grasslands species

So when they run, they keep running

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxaOatIi5R8

[finite jungle]

If aggressive bison ran at a speed like that they’d be a lot more threatening

[strong thorn]

But like frogs fish and other acuatic animals are the only ones that cant run

And some birbs

[mighty oyster]

ah yes

acuatic animals

[strong thorn]

Aquatic whatever

[finite jungle]

Acoustic animals

[pearl tendon]

Autistic animals

[strong thorn]

Sorry, english is not my first language

[chrome sail]

they should add fabled seals to spain

they live in the lakes and river

[violet schooner]

I’m pretty sure your the only one who’s asking for this so it’s probably not gonna happen

[strong thorn]

The only fabled seals that we'll see will come with weapons

[feral silo]

Does anyone know if (some?) of the great ones are still bugged? I don’t mind continue grinding thousands of whitetails, but they are hard enough to find when they are spawning properly, so it’s gonna be even harder to find one if many of them spawn as bugged level 3 whitetails that are above max weight 🙃

[strong thorn]

They are but they are also the rarest animals in the game

[feral silo]

Yeah I know they are supposed to be the rarest of the rare, so to speak, and I love that! But seeing as some of them are bugged, it makes it even harder to find something that is already really hard to find 🤔

[strong thorn]

That is the charming part

[violet schooner]

@strong thorn rare as melanistic wt actually

[strong thorn]

Really that doesn't sounds so rare

[feral silo]

I got 2 melanistic whitetails 😅 I'll gladly trade one of them for a great one haha...

[violet schooner]

Well think about the last time you got a Mel wt

I also hab 2

[strong thorn]

I have 0 rares from layton

[feral silo]

don't know if I would call a bug "charming" though hehe! 😄

[strong thorn]

In my Xbox I had an albino lvl 4 moose

[feral silo]

You'd probably get some fairly soon if you started grinding. I have a "spreadsheet" (just a note really) of how many diamonds/rares I've gotten during my great one grind, and I also (somewhat) keep track of how many whitetails I've shot. I should be at about 5000-5500 right now in the great one grind

[strong thorn]

I shot 60 and got bored

[feral silo]

It's not for everyone, that is for sure

[violet schooner]

If you had Xbox I’d say go to my fifth one

[feral silo]

I just don't know if I should stop grinding for now untill they are fixed, or if I should just continue 🤔 I'm not bored of grinding, but if I get a bugged great one before I get the "real deal", I think my morale will go down quite a bit

Also, are the devs aware of them being bugged? Have they talked about a fix?

[strong thorn]

Yes

[feral silo]

Alright, sweet!

[sharp junco]

GO is much rarer than a mela WT i think

Diamond mela WT, lynx, elk, etc...

Thats a different story

I think those are rarer than a GO

[feral silo]

It’s hard for us to say since we don’t have a big sample size to go by, but I’ve seen 3-4 guys that got a GO after 3000~ harvests, and Flinter got his after 1600~ I believe. But I would assume it’s about the same chance as getting a super rare of the species where rare furs are actually rare. But as I said, there is no way for us to know (yet atleast)

[sharp junco]

Flinter got so damn lucky its unbelievable

Lol

[violet schooner]

It ran past him

[feral silo]

Haha yeah! 2 super rares and a GO in 1600 harvests, that is insane! 🤙

[sharp junco]

Yup

[violet schooner]

That’s unfairly lucky

[sharp junco]

He deserves it tho

No its not unfair

[feral silo]

Damn right he does!

[sharp junco]

Hes done so much for the community if anyone deserves that luck it sure is him

[grim dome]

Yeah

[feral silo]

Agreed!

[grim dome]

For sure

[full cave]

Well yes a GO is rarer than a Mel WT @sharp junco But when u include diamond rare animals youre comparing apples to oranges. A rare fur GO is rare than any rare diamond of any species. Weve never seen any kind of rare GO shot.

Which makes one ponder if the rare fur variations of the GO are actually spawning into the game.

👀

[supple tulip]

People have spawned Rare fur GO’s

[full cave]

I'm not talking hacked rares tho eyepick. I'm talking them spawning in legitimately. Weve never seen that outside of the hacked ones

[supple tulip]

But with the chances of getting one, you’re better off trying to teach a tiger to tie a constrictor knot

[pearl tendon]

They’re called rare for a reason

I diamond rare is hard enough. Imagine something even more rare than a diamond itself

[finite jungle]

You see a diamond rare posted here maybe like once every 2 weeks to a month

A rare GO is gonna take very long before it shows up here

Ok I overestimated

More like once a week

But still

[full cave]

Exactly. Weve never seen a "legit" rare GO outside of hacks. So either theyre beyound rare or are not spawning in legitimately just like the 6 "antler configurations" that were not spawning do to being bugged. My guess is if the past is any indication of the present,the rare GOs arent spawning legit and probably/most likely bugged.

I get your point @finite jungle.

My point with alex is you can't compare a rare diamond to a rwgular GO. If you want to talk rare then you have to talk rare GO as well otherwise theres no comparison really.

What’s the next GO animal species y’all think they’ll add

I think either mule deer or red deer

Mulies would be sweet!!!

Indeed

The new Trumulies look better than the old mulies!!!! If there were GO mulies would be epic!!!

Yes they are waaaaaay better now

Agreed. A GO red was would be amazing too tho!

The old ones were weird especially their brow tines

Yea it’d be like to trees on top of its head 😂

Hahahha pretty much!!! They'd get snagged in trees cause thered be so much trash on their heads!!! 😂😂

🤣🤣🤣

Id love a nasty agressive GO grizzly myself!! One that if youre not in a stand or tripod and aggravate that bear,youre done!! That would be cool

I’d like something like this for GO muley

And yea

That's cool!!

[cold marten]

I would prefer the gos look like the non typical mule deer in classic ngl

They nailed those behemoths in classic

[full cave]

Ive never seen one of those. But I'm game for any insane monster deer!!

[supple tulip]

I disagree, Charrlie

Classic's nontypical mule deer were a bit too random for my taste

I'd prefer something more like this

[finite jungle]

Great One Moose tho 😳

[supple tulip]

Something nontypical, but still reasonably natural

https://www.realtree.com/deer-hunting/galleries/the-6-world-record-mule-deer-by-subspecies

[full cave]

👀

[supple tulip]

Yeah I think we can all agree on the GO moose

[full cave]

BIG MALE

[supple tulip]

Oh you wanna see a big male?

Guys guys
Best GO choice rack for mule deer

Swirley rack best rack

[full cave]

Oof

[supple tulip]

[full cave]

He ugly

[finite jungle]

Great one blackbuck

That’s not a mule deer

It’s a funky blackbuck

[supple tulip]

Fr though, I'd love to see some really bizarre great one rack-types for mule deer/blacktail

[finite jungle]

That’s just a small fallow deer on a mule deer body

Great One bison and it just looks like Bison Latifrons

[supple tulip]

Lol

[supple tulip]

Man ya'll ever get a whitetail so big it just becomes a moose?

[full cave]

Here’s this buck named the goat

[supple tulip]

@finite jungle Nah bison aren't really trophy scored by their horns

It'd be size that the bison GO goes after

[finite jungle]

I’m pretty sure Latifrons was bigger body-wise than modern bison as well

[supple tulip]

Yes I am aware

Oh also beard size

[full cave]

Or are you

[finite jungle]

Great One Moose confirmed

[supple tulip]

Btw bison get wayyy bigger than most people realize

This guy's getting an ear tag

[finite jungle]

Uh wow

[supple tulip]

Omg guys Great One bison spotting!
C O N F I R M E D

[finite jungle]

BIG MALE

[supple tulip]

Alpha chad

[finite jungle]

Honestly I wouldn’t mind a GO elk or moose that looked like the stag moose

Unrealistic? Maybe

Badass? Definitely

[supple tulip]

Damn you're going all the way with paleontology

I'm glad to see more people interested in it

[finite jungle]

Where do you think I learned it from!?

[supple tulip]

Ah true lmao

Chad bison smacks your GF's ass
What do you do?

[finite jungle]

If they wanted to go more with the typical style for GO moose they could do Irish Elk

I run away before he smacks mine too

[supple tulip]

Good answer lmao

You know, these animals are entirely different

Can't really compare extinct animals to modern ones

[finite jungle]

No not really but it’s fun to talk about

[supple tulip]

Especially since megaloceros antlers are just wide, spiky moose antlers

[finite jungle]

Exactly

[supple tulip]

Nah, the moose silvers beat the megaloceros antlers

[finite jungle]

Can’t really show an example for a GO moose without using bigger, extinct animals, because the current world record moose just looks like a diamond

[supple tulip]

I'd go for nontypical moose all the way

Very spikey

[finite jungle]

Imagine getting charged by that wall of spikes

Wouldn’t be a fun day

[supple tulip]

https://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/hunting/big-game/moose/2012/02/top-40-biggest-moose-ever-taken/

Yeah

Bit of a shame the animals in this game are pussies

[finite jungle]

Ok this has GO potential for typical moose

[supple tulip]

Looks like a gold

Excluding how wide apart they rack is

[finite jungle]

If it was stood up straight those antlers would be almost twice as tall as him

[pearl tendon]

What GO animal do y’all hope is next? I’m kinda hoping for a mulie or elk because I hunt them irl

[supple tulip]

I’m completely 100% sure the next GO is either geese or ducks

[lime oxide]

Im pretty sure the next animal is not going to be an animal that resides in Layton, as people would hate to grind that region again. I imagine it’ll be something like caribou/red deer/mule deer

[finite jungle]

You think they’ll try to have an animal with a base game map?

Because if so, GO fallow deer would be epic

[supple tulip]

I’m hoping for GO caribou or moose personally

[fickle glacier]

I personally want Great one Mule deer I think they would look gud if they make it typical rack

[supple tulip]

Eh

Typical mule deer get smaller than the new golds

Well maybe not this one

But yeah, a GO mule deer would be neat

[sharp junco]

@full cave as long as rare WT spawn rare GOs should spawn too

Excluding fabled piebald

We dunno bout that

[cold marten]

I still believe, a GO mule deer has to either look like the 400 plus non typ classic mule deer, or one of the big world record non typ mule deer

[lime oxide]

I’d imagine it’d be based off a mule deer like this

as GO horns look so much crazier than the rest, and stand out

[finite jungle]

I wish GOs had an antler variation like Hole in the Horn buck

[strong thorn]

I wish axis deer werent the worst animal in the game

[finite jungle]

I wouldn’t say they’re the worst animal

Are their racks small? Yes.

But I think that bighorn are the worst, and will continue to be the worst until they update the horns

[violet schooner]

Bigger base and there good

[strong thorn]

The body and class are also wrong

They should be like WT

[violet schooner]

Same height as whitetail yes same length idk

[strong thorn]

It is and the same weight as a Wt or bigger

[lime oxide]

They said on stream they fixed the bighorns

[full cave]

Bighorn was one of the worst. They have a few animals that have quite a significant flaw in the truRACS.

[strong thorn]

Like what?

[sage sparrow]

I feel the horns are the only thing that was wrong, otherwise they looked pretty good and #🦌︴general

[full cave]

Roosevelt Elk - brow tines and overall improper spacing of tines and the mass is being added in the wrong spots of the antlers.

Whitetail - The diamond racks are fine, but all the gold racks for whitetail have way to thin for main beams to support 8-12 points.

Bighorn - they were addressed, but the curl and bases were way too much.

Caribou/Reindeer - The tops are amazing. The shovels are lack luster. They don't seem to get really developed like the trophy ones you can look up.

[strong thorn]

Ok those I agree but none are as terrible as the Curlyhorns

[supple tulip]

Curlyhorns?

[strong thorn]

"Big" horns?

[supple tulip]

For the sheep?

Also the bighorn sheep curls were fine, it's the mass and tightness of the curl that was the trouble

[strong thorn]

The curls never close on monster bighorn

[supple tulip]

Pardon?

[lime oxide]

I just hate how the diamonds for whitetails are Always 7 point on each side. It’s not like the other tru racs where there are like different forms of diamonds rac with one species

[supple tulip]

I agree, whitetail truracs are boring and all uniform

[full cave]

And the whitetail scores are way to high

[strong thorn]

Pardon?
@supple tulip like in the wild the tip of the horn almost never makes a full circle

[supple tulip]

Ah

[strong thorn]

Like the points of the image

They never overlap

[supple tulip]

Well that is a desert bighorn, isn't it?

[strong thorn]

Then this one

And compare it to that one

[full cave]

yeah they looked more like marco polo sheep rather than bighorn

[supple tulip]

Nah

Marco Polo sheep curls are way more loose

[visual forge]

i do be wanting a bighorn and mountain goat

[supple tulip]

I wanna get my diamond bighorn after the new update with the mass fix

I just hope they don't make the curl less extreme

The tightness is bad but I really like the curl

[visual forge]

yeah same

[lime oxide]

I don’t know what all of y’all are up about on the Diamond bighorn. Obviously, he got a hair curler and used it on his horns

Joking aside, his horns do resemble this sheep

But this isn’t a bighorn of course

[supple tulip]

Is this a New Zealand ram?

[lime oxide]

Now clue. I just saw it on google and the name definently did not say bighorn sheep lol

*no

[pliant oak]

will just have to wait and see how they are with the fix

[cold marten]

I still think the bighorn horns are too, spindly I guess?

I want them to be more mass then curl

[pliant oak]

well they are fixing them will have to see what they like when they are fixed

i like how classics are

[fallow owl]

classics are near perfect tbh

[tribal pawn]

^

[sudden garden]

Yea how hard is it for EW to just ask a museum for a compilation of references of specimens

[supple tulip]

Or just like
Use google

[strong thorn]

Yeah

I bet they did and on the 11th we'll get the most beautiful Bighorn sheeps ever

[supple tulip]

I hope so

[strong thorn]

I was as hopeful on the release date of the map and I was let down

And Heartbroken

I literally just have a diamond bighorn because he rammed me and got stuck

[full cave]

we still have yet to see if the curl was adjusted. The bases looked good however 🙂

bighorn don't make full curls IRL

[pearl tendon]

I’m sure fabled big horn will make full curl. I would assume one that’s as old as dirt would eventually have full curls

[tribal pawn]

They make full curl all the time

[strong thorn]

But the tips tend to break on fighting

[tribal pawn]

you are correct

full curl is when the horn curls back to eye level also

[supple tulip]

Ya'll ever seen farmed fallow deer?

This guy's name is bullwinkle

This one is Thunderstruck

[finite jungle]

What’re you on about Eypick? All I’m seeing is moose with comically small bodies

[supple tulip]

Lmao

[full cave]

All I’m seeing is animals made for lazy ass rich folk to shoot

[pearl tendon]

I want to own a deer farm with a crap ton of land with fences so they can’t get out into nature and screw things up but so people can also get an actual hunting experience

[supple tulip]

So a hunting ranch?

Like Texas?

[full cave]

😂😂😂

I love the assumption that Texas is a hunting ranch

Wdym get an actual hunting experience @pearl tendon

Cause an actual experience would be, ya know, actually hunting

[finite jungle]

High fence= not real hunting

BUT

Texas is not all high fence as well

A good portion of it is free roaming game

And the boars in Texas can get monstrous

and mean

[pearl tendon]

I mean an actual hunting experience in the sense of no help finding the animal and no telling where it roams. I only say with fences so that the animals don’t get out and mess with the blood pool in the real world

[full cave]

Or just, don’t

[pearl tendon]

I just want to see how big of a deer I can make

[full cave]

They’ll always escaped

[pearl tendon]

Idk about that

[full cave]

👀

But like, that’s not fun

Just do the ranch part, not the high fence

[pearl tendon]

I’d have to cut the nads off the bucks so they don’t mess with blood pools

[full cave]

✂️

Or just don’t high fence hunt

I mean, why breed them where they don’t even have a chance?

Not cool

[pearl tendon]

They’ll have a chance. That’s why I wanted a huge plot In the mountains. But who knows. One or ten big ones might accidentally excape

[jagged temple]

i dont know if you realise this or not but for it to seem legitimate you would have to have tens of thousands of acres all next to each other

and put that at a price of $1200 an acre, stuff adds up real quick

[supple tulip]

Breed the deer to eat man flesh

Then they’ll have a chance

[jagged temple]

those big ranches you see aren't just growing the deer, they are selling products, hunts, and things of the sort

and you can grow the biggest buck in the world and he will jump the fence on you, and if you dont have his sperm saved somewhere, you just lost everything

[supple tulip]

Yes the world is not good for making ranches now

||See my plan would be to breed world record-setting rams and then sell those rams to hunting ranches||

[jagged temple]

thats what some whitetail growers do

they grow the deer and sell sperm for specific animals and specific offspring

and you can only hope to god that somewhere down the line genetics give a good buck

[strong thorn]

||See my plan would be to breed world record-setting rams and then sell those rams to hunting ranches||
@supple tulip no, no tell me more

[supple tulip]

That's about it

[strong thorn]

Hmmmmm

[full cave]

Yeah and high fenced hunting is MEGA gai don’t do it

[sturdy minnow]

I live out here in South Texas and ain’t got that many big whitetails but do find you that one every so often, but I wouldn’t mind doin a high fenced hunt 1 time in my life but there’s a difference between a guided hunt and jus a regular high fenced hunt out here atleast

I can go and spend a couple hundred- thousand bucks to go on a piece of land and go shoot whatever buck I see first as others have a specific buck they want you to shoot

[finite jungle]

Either way it’s meat in the freezer

[strong thorn]

Well one of the points of hunting is not knowing whats coming

[jagged temple]

Im fine with hunting a high fence as long as you admit its a high fence deer

i don't like people that try to show of high fence deer and act like it is free range

like sure nice 250in deer but say, "hey heres a big deer i killed on a high fence once", and i will respect that

but be like someone such as Keith warren and try to act like you're a god at hunting while hunting a specific deer that lives in a high fence and has been coming to the same spot everyday for the past 5 years of its life.

that's when it starts to piss me off

[sudden garden]

If we're talking about Texas, those game ranches (at least the exotic ones) are pretty big and the hunting is challenging.

[strong thorn]

But all animals in high fence where raised in a controlled habitat so are 10 times as predictable

[finite jungle]

And are specifically made to be monstrous

What in the wild would be a one in a million buck is just average on a high fence farm

[strong thorn]

Depends on the ranch but yeah

[jagged temple]

i agree with @sudden garden those exotic game ranches are pretty large and it gives people a chance to kill animals without as steep of a price as if they were on a guided hunt somewhere where they are native

[strong thorn]

But you should always say its from a high fence ranch

[jagged temple]

again i agree

but some people just dont have the money to go all the way to somewhere like africa and hunt

because most of the time on safaris you cant just buy a hunt for a specific animal, you have to buy a package

[sudden garden]

Also, a Texas map would be a great wastebasket map

Meaning that there are a metric shitload of animals already in the game that could go in

[strong thorn]

Yes but maybe you have to pay a lot of money in game to get on the ranch And it has 20% more to spawn GOs

Like you have to pay 100'000 of in game currency to enter the texas map because is full of diamonds and rares

That would be cool and your pass is only for 12 hours

[supple tulip]

Texas would be great for a final map

[strong thorn]

That is how I feel they should add a high fence map

[supple tulip]

Cause you could put basically anything there

[finite jungle]

100,000 is nothing for some people

I could grind that up in like 2 or 3 days

[sudden garden]

I say organize DLC map costs by how rich in species they are

[finite jungle]

I was thinking maybe if they for some reason added a Texas map, it would have all the familiar animals but it wouldn’t have increased spawn rate of big boys or anything. It should be another FREE map but with a couple animals from dlc to give players some sort of taste of the game from the other dlcs. Like you can play it when your first start, and it’ll have whitetail, turkey, boar, pronghorn, plains bison, mule deer, and mountain lion or something

It could act as encouragement for players to want to buy the other PAID dlc to see what more is in store for them

Honestly though, I don’t think a Texas map is in store and for good reason. All the animals that are in Texas are already in other maps

It just wouldn’t be unique enough to get other people to want to pay for it

[full cave]

Would need to be non natives

You can find almost every type of sheep/goat at those ranches

[finite jungle]

Do we really need another map that’s for goats and sheep though?

Cuarto colinas is like the goat map

[visual forge]

srp also has 2

like das enough goats for me

[finite jungle]

^

I sorta agree

[visual forge]

i would like to get more deer types

[finite jungle]

If they incorporated a couple more goats into other maps that would be cool

But a Texas map that’s goat dedicated like Colinas is would be eh

[full cave]

This is a ranch in texas

They have everything lmao

[jagged temple]

white-tail, javelina, barbary sheep, the three quail, pheasant, geese, doves, green winged teal, pintail, mallard, wood duck and redhead could be a texas map

lots of new stuff

[finite jungle]

That’s a lot of small game....

[jagged temple]

could be a small game map

[visual forge]

we really dont have a lot of small game but a whole map dedicated to them is meh imo

[jagged temple]

i can do more but i tried to exclude already present animals

[visual forge]

i can see maybe we have an actual planes map with the small critters, while getting bison and pronghorn up there with muley's and whatever else is there

[full cave]

For some reason It wont let me send anymore images https://www.oxhuntingranch.com/hunting/ But if you look at the species Texas is literaly a map you would throw anything in that didnt get featured on other maps

[finite jungle]

A map needs variation to bring in customers though. You can’t just have an only small game map or an only deer species map. It needs a variety of different species from the different weight classes. That’s how’s every current map is

[visual forge]

plains

[jagged temple]

desert bighorn, pronghorn, axis deer, blackbuck, mule deer and pronghorn as well

those could go on it as well

[finite jungle]

Except for desert bighorn all of those are already in the game

[jagged temple]

i know thats what i just said

[finite jungle]

For mule deer it would be their 3rd dlc map

[jagged temple]

aligator

as well if you want

[finite jungle]

I just don’t see it working still. It’ll either have to have a bunch of animals with a specific niche or it would have to have a bunch of repeats with exception to a couple decent animals

[jagged temple]

cottontaail rabbit, jackrabbit, porcupine, prairie dog, bobcat, audad, thompson's gazelle, nilgai, feral hog

there

thats even more and most of those are new

[finite jungle]

That could work

But just have that as the roster nothing else

[full cave]

Axis deer, Muntjac, Whitetail, Oryx, Waterbuck, Dall sheep, Grant/Thomson Gazelle , Ibex, Bighorn, Sika deer, Nilgai Can pretty much throw everything on texas.

[finite jungle]

I mean jimbobs roster has enough unique game and weight class variations to make it interesting

[full cave]

Munjac/sika are probably better reserved for a UK map though

[jagged temple]

i listed 27 animals, so any combination of those would work

[supple tulip]

Prairie dog?

[finite jungle]

cottontaail rabbit, jackrabbit, porcupine, prairie dog, bobcat, audad, thompson's gazelle, nilgai, feral hog

Maybe add alligator and crane and this would be a pretty good map

[jagged temple]

i did

[supple tulip]

For Texas?

[jagged temple]

https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/online-course/wildlife-conservation/exotic-species

thats where im getting this from

[finite jungle]

Yes

Maybe get rid of jackrabbit tho. We don’t need 2 rabbits

[jagged temple]

badger, otter, skunk, nutria, beaver, muskrat

even more stuff

Maybe get rid of jackrabbit tho. We don’t need 2 rabbits
@finite jungle id get rid of cottontail

[supple tulip]

Idk about otter, nutria, or muskrat

[jagged temple]

jackrabbit is more unigue

im just throwing animals out there

[finite jungle]

Jackrabbit is already on Layton

[jagged temple]

add grey fox as well

i thought cottontail was my bad

[finite jungle]

How about this, taking a ton of inspiration from you Jimbob

Cottontail
Prairie dog
Porcupine
Bobcat
Audad
Thompson’s gazelle
Nilgai
Alligator
Javelina

How does this roster sound

[supple tulip]

Porcupine for Texas?

Idk about that one

[finite jungle]

They’re there

[jagged temple]

take out prairie dog and porcupine, add whitetail and gambel's dove

[finite jungle]

Not very common but porcupine are there

[jagged temple]

then im all in

[supple tulip]

Porcupines usually don't hang out in the dry areas

Tbh, I'd prefer a hunting ranch Texas map

Rather than a lot of native species

[finite jungle]

Yellow haired porcupine

[jagged temple]

id rather have native animals

it just seems more fitting

[supple tulip]

Still, Oofie, those live in denser woodland

[finite jungle]

I’m a mix. Nilgai, audad, etc are imported but there’s some native species that could still fit

[supple tulip]

And if porcupines were added to a Texas map, they might as well get added to Layton, SRP, and Yukon

[jagged temple]

you could do like a mix of woods and desert and it would work

[finite jungle]

True

If not porcupine then raccoon is another one

A lot more common

[supple tulip]

Tbh

There's quite a bit of smaller game that could be added to nearly every American map

[finite jungle]

I just don’t want it to be an all deer or an all repeat or an all small game map

[supple tulip]

Same

[finite jungle]

It has to have variety and a certain uniqueness to it

[jagged temple]

thers a lot of different regins where you could do different animals

[supple tulip]

Could have giraffe

[finite jungle]

N o

[supple tulip]

Yeah, Texas is huge

But a lot of it is just areas from the other USA

[jagged temple]

Texas is divided into 10 natural regions or ecoregions: the Piney Woods, the Gulf Prairies and marshes, the Post Oak Savanah, the Blackland Prairies, the Cross Timbers, the South Texas Plains, the Edwards Plateau, the Rolling Plains, the High Plains, and the Trans-Pecos.

quote texas parks and rec

[finite jungle]

They just make 2 Texas maps instead of a 2nd African map 😎

[supple tulip]

Lmfao

Imma go get my roster for Texas

[jagged temple]

im gonna do the same

[supple tulip]

Aight

[finite jungle]

I already posted mine so

[supple tulip]

So my idea for a Texas map would be it's a hunting ranch

And the final map for CotW

[agile steeple]

Doves would be interesting on a Texas map

[jagged temple]

White-tail, desert bighorn, javelina, Gambel's Quail, wood duck, hooded merganser, Nilgai, aoudad sheep, grey fox, Thompson's gazelle, and mourning dove

thats mine

[supple tulip]

Excluding repeats, peacock(1), feral hog(4), jacob's sheep(4), desert bighorn(4), nilgai(6), Pere David's deer(6), Watusi(9), etc

Could have practically anything

Including the native species

[jagged temple]

yeah me and you just have different ideas

[supple tulip]

Indeed

[astral helm]

Jacob sheep and Ankole Watusi are domesticated animals, though.

[sudden garden]

We were referencing this site
https://www.oxhuntingranch.com/hunting/

[astral helm]

Ahh, okay

I always forget that people actually do that

[solid agate]

What about alligators

You can hunt gators in Texas

[supple tulip]

Yes but I don’t think people build ranches in the swampy areas

To my knowledge there aren’t any at least

[solid agate]

Cotw maps are inspired by real places. Their not real places in real life. It is possible to make a ranch in a swampy area, it would just be difficult.

[supple tulip]

I suppose

[sudden garden]

My idea for gators was that they would be in a Louisiana bayou map

[restive briar]

A cool idea I just had was having a waterfowl map situated in the southeastern part of the US. I know TK expressed interest in something like that since Classic has a waterfowl only map (I think?). I'll work out a boat mechanic akin to the ATV and have gators in the waters for added danger. I doubt a map with only waterfowl will sell as well as typical reverses so adding something incredibly unique would be a good selling point. Pluuuus I really want an excuse to give us a GO gator lol.

[supple tulip]

Yeah

We've talked about this idea before

[sudden garden]

You can get a bunch of mammals as well like deer, black bear, etc

[supple tulip]

I quite like it

Gators would be great

[cold marten]

what do yall think about this leaked teaser?

[cold marten]

surprised how no has questioned this amazing new leak

like it hints so much at the future for this game

they are adding rhinos!

[visual forge]

when they cant because the story line literally ends with the last rhino being killed u-u sad day

[minor hearth]

I'd love to find a fabled deer one day

[full cave]

famished deer

hes a little skinnier but hes got the spirit

[vast geyser]

Did anyone else's Layton population get reset with this update? Was that supposed to happen? I absolutely love suddenly having to setup an entire map again after over a thousand whitetail..

[full cave]

i thought it was on purpose someone posted something about it

[vast geyser]

It probably was, I just hadn't seen anything about it. That's annoying to say the least

[finite jungle]

While it’s a little annoying, in the long term for me at least it’ll be a good thing. My luck on layton for whitetail hasn’t exactly been the best lately so what’s essentially a free respawn for every animal on my map might not be that bad

[merry sand]

so they didnt add a new great one with the patch 😔

[small meteor]

Doesnt look like it no.

[lone hazel]

Yep, they didnt add any new GO

[shadow spindle]

@restive briar late but the bayou map on classic also has whitetail, black bear, feral hog, and bobcat; not just ducks

[vast geyser]

Over/Under on them fixing WT scoring estimates - 3 months

[supple tulip]

Gators

[sharp junco]

That looks rather funny

[plain surge]

why do i get soviet union bugs bunny vibes from this]

[supple tulip]

Then you should see this

“Make it snappy”

[feral silo]

@vast geyser It seems 80-90% of my whitetail zones are gone, but some (oddly enough) still remain. But yeah, I'm right there with you. Gonna be a hazzle to walk across my entire map and find all the drink zones and put tents everywhere again after thousands of whitetail harvested. I knew my map so well in the end I probably could have done it while blinded, so this sucks a lot 😦

Probably just gonna delete the population files and do a clean restart, since some of the zones still remain

[vast geyser]

That's what I did, completely started over. Then did a quick run to see what zones still worked with my old setup, then took everything else down and now I'm working my way through it all again. Not looking forward to it

[feral silo]

Yeah that sucks, but what can you do 🤔 My population went from 30~ bucks on average to 15-20 (per run) in a couple of weeks, but lately I somehow got the numbers up to 30 again, so I was kinda hyped about that. But now I need to visit every single lake and body of water on the entire map to see where the new zones are, which is gonna be quite time consuming 😦

I might just take a few days off the grind to get some motivation to do all the setups again

[merry sand]

@prebz after todays update the need zones are gone?

[vast geyser]

@merry sand Entire Layton population was reset. Some will obviously have the same zones as the old population, but it's all new

[merry sand]

fuck I had like 20 wt drink zones

[plain surge]

0-0

i wish i could say the same

[feral silo]

Yeah, it sucks 😦 @merry sand

[sudden garden]

GO bears should be the super fat ones

[plain surge]

HOLLY HELL

[merry sand]

does that mean that the whole great one grind was for nothing and i have to start from 0 or do the kills still count? killed over 1500 whitetails for be geat one grind already @feral silo

[plain surge]

that bear looks like it's the one that reaches mach 1

[strong thorn]

Bears that live near to cities often get diabetes

[plain surge]

youd be surprised with the black bears over here bud

[sharp junco]

Lmao that bear

XD

I cant anymore

Thats the funniest looking animal ive seen in my entire live

[feral silo]

@merry sand It's completely random when he spawns, so the amount of kills you got so far shouldn't matter at all! 🙂

[merry sand]

@feral silo ok thanks

[dense temple]

Is a light grey elk rare

[small meteor]

No

[dense temple]

Ok

[supple tulip]

Great One polar bear:

[plain surge]

why does he look like he's covered in cookie crumbs

[sudden garden]

Nah, bears get super fat in the wild too as they need it for hibernation

[strong thorn]

Sad one

We aren't going to see a fat polar bear IRL for a while

The poles are melting

[plain surge]

he looks like hes covered in crumbs

and i know how bears work

[visual forge]

absolute units

[sharp junco]

Why do fat bears look so damn funny

[plain surge]

maybe cus they look like they went to a all you can eat buffet and had to much to eat and try to be wwe stars

[supple tulip]

@sharp junco fat animals in general are considered funny because to our caveman monkey brains, they’re easy prey

[plain surge]

thats obiviously photo shopped

[sharp junco]

The squirrel is ok

[supple tulip]

It’s depressing

[sharp junco]

The bears are the only 1s that look truly funny tho

That tiger is truly saddening

[supple tulip]

Not according to r/chonkers

[sharp junco]

Oh boi

[sharp junco]

Its normal for those

[supple tulip]

Frogs get F A T

[sharp junco]

^

[sharp junco]

Pacman frog best frog tho

[sharp junco]

Wtaf

[sharp junco]

Best frog

Along side with goliath frogs

I mean goliath frogs are real hooge

Like only 10cms smaller than beelzebufo iirc

[sharp junco]

Altough beelzebufo was like tripple the weight of a goliath frog

That doggo got stung by some wasps

Lol

[strong thorn]

@sharp junco fat animals in general are considered funny because to our caveman monkey brains, they’re easy prey
@supple tulip yes, I can relate

Me sees chonky animals an go haha

[full cave]

haha fat cat

[cold marten]

ok, so I was looking through the files and found a possible new hint for a new animal or even possible new map

any yall wanna see it?

[full cave]

Yes

[cold marten]

does this mean alligators?

[full cave]

Was that actually the files

[cold marten]

yes

[full cave]

Nice

We getting alligators

[cold marten]

idk if the devs have ever seen alligators, since the model is a bit funky

[full cave]

Kinda looks like a lizard

[cold marten]

the file name was alligator

it was a blender model

[full cave]

Oh

Hmm

[cold marten]

so it's confirmed yall, alligators are coming to cotw

[full cave]

If it is where you think the map gonna be

[cold marten]

speaking of that

I found the possible name of the map

and also this render of the map

[full cave]

Looks like it’s in code

Hmm

[cold marten]

sweawmp ohcean liver is a weird name for a map

[small meteor]

Please keep this channel for fabled ones discussion only. This is unrelated

[full cave]

It’s in code it has to mean something else

Sorry

[vital geyser]

So I logged into layton earlier today and all my whitetail spawns were removed

Could this be from the patch? Or could there be a possible fabled on my map

Ive heard from a couple people that their spawns would swap around when a fabled spawned

[violet schooner]

Then mine should be littered with fabled cause my wt zones never stay

[strong thorn]

They change often

[violet schooner]

No I mean like they disappear every time I log off

[sturdy minnow]

Same here

[pliant oak]

can people check there whitetail zones and normal places see how many you see seems like whitetails have gone on holiday

[full cave]

With the patch all the regular zones are gone. They mustve done a pop reset. So far ive notice all the zones have moved but the chase for the GO just got 100 times harder. Meaning all the new zones ive discovered so far the zones are way off the water. Theyre tucked up deep in the brush. Very difficult to find them unless it's sunny. Laytons so dark a lot of times but the brush is very thick. So look up away from the water. Also the estimated trophy rating when spotting a WT is broken. I just shot a buck that eatimate was 36-72 and final score was 177. I dont have time to post pics of proof as I'm off to work. But just some help for you guys. Again drink zones are now way off the water. Try to look in the deep brush :/

Basically we have to rexplore every. inch of our maps and start over so to speak.

[pliant oak]

yeah i think GOs just got 100x harder

zones wiped

so 0.00016 or whatever just gotta a few more lower decimal places 😁

[supple tulip]

[full cave]

Yea pretty much @pliant oak. I was thinking the same exact thing. Took a while to figure it out but then started noticing g shadows in the trees and realized that I was looking for them around the water like normal. Have found 4 zones and all are up in the thick stuff 😕

[vast geyser]

I'm in the same boat. When I realized what they did, I cleared out everything and deleted my population file just to make sure it was clean. Now I've spent ~6 hours looking for zones, and they are MUCH harder to find. I had done alot of pop reset testing in the past and it was always easy to find 10 drink zones in the first in-game day, but right now I've found 7 in like 10 days. They are more hidden and difficult to find in general. I tested 2 of them with deleting an inconvenient zone, and both did come back in spots much easier to grind. So I would recommend that if you have ones that are just a pain with them being in the brush

[merry sand]

interessting, i lost a few wt needzones after patch, but not all, Pc Player here

[full cave]

Oh wow. Thats good to know @vast geyser. Good tip. Yea the only 3 need zones that werent deleted in the patch are the ones I have on the east coast. They probably figure nobody uses them anyway. Which I never really did cause it wasted a tent and never produced anything g worthwhile anyways. Yea going to be a very long process of collecting all the tents,tripods and such and getting everything restablished again :/ Hope its worth it. Hahaha

[full cave]

... They resetted it? I just got done setting them up a few days ago

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[lucid schooner]

Let me get that for you

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[full cave]

no (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[full cave]

Yea Id k. I've just spent a couple gours racing across my map and can't find a single WT spot. I think they may have accidentally screwed the WT up.with this patch. I know zones are way harder to find now but this is ridiculous. WT seem to be the rarest animals on the map. So odds of a GO are now probably about .0000000000016. Very frustrating. So considering g teophie estimates are broken wouldnt be suprised if WT numbers were accidentally reduced.

[full cave]

What I'm doing is scouring my map past drink zone time and the drink zone tracks are still out there. BUT am finding nothing. Somethings not right. Ive covered half of the river system so far and have only 4 zones to show for. Before the patch there were 10 along that same stretch. So far after waiting 2 months for this GO patch Ive got to say I'm not impressed. But just my opinion. Was hoping for more excitement.

[restive briar]

I wonder if a pop. reset would end up fixing this new issue? I've been wanting to get back into the grind but with all these issues I don't think wasting my time will be worth it. Especially if all my hard work will just end up going down the drain. I'm still salty that any GOs harvested before the hotfix can't be placed in a lodge without the entire game crashing.

[full cave]

Yea Idk. Once the GO came out thats all I chased. I know Layton better than any map in the game. Yes there's way more male moose around and lots more Elk but WT are messed up. Pop seems way down and also this.......

Clear trophy rating of 38-76. Shot it as he lay........

153.43 actual

[strong thorn]

Happy male

[main berry]

I agree with every word of that statement @restive briar

[fickle glacier]

Does any of this wt zone stuff happen of console? or only known on pc?

[full cave]

Both

[median spire]

I'm just about ready to throw in the towel on this GO hunt. Whitetail have always been the rarest species on Layton for me. Entirely too many moose, though. Be nice if they'd half the moose pop and swap those numbers over to WT.

[full cave]

Yea Id k. I do know before the patch there was no problem finding WT and they were all over my map. But I do know that after playing the game for 4 days,post patch,that I'd see more than 15 WT. Ive noticed the new drink zones are farther up in the brush/trees. So if the pop hasnt changed then the only explanation is the new zones have accidentally been put way too far up.in the forests. The max distance Ive been searching is about 250-275 yds away from the water. So if the drink zones are farther than that into the thick forests that it was a mistake and they should be considered feed zones.I havent explored that deep into the forests so far as I'm hunting a drink zone. All I can say for certain after hundreds of hours playing on Layton is that there's something not right with this patch. If just finding WT is this difficult the average player,such as myself,may as well move on and forget the GO cause it'll never happen. Meaning if a GO spawn depends on volume of WT shot and RESPAWNS,the odds are more like 1 in 5bmillion. But just my opinion. Just buy a Powerball ticket and you'll have the same odds of winning the lottery. 😹

[supple tulip]

I sure do love delicious water

[desert drift]

Has anyone got a piebald great one?

[violet schooner]

No

[strong thorn]

Yes I have 3

I got lucky on multiplayer

Jk

There are like 12 registered GOs

And none have fur variants

[full cave]

Right. Not a single "rare" GO has ever been taken legitimately. And since the PC patch was released 2 months ago weve only seen 2 antler variations. Well Ive seen one but the rumour is a second variation was shot but I myself havent seen that pic.

I believe only 2 GOs have been shot since the PC GO patch launch. Before that launch at least 10 GOs that ive seen were taken. Coincidence?

But good news,after 2 1/2 hours of "real life time" of racing through more of the river system I finally found a tiny herd of 4 WT that had 2 max weights in it. Both scoring 258 by coincidence. Hahaha 😹

[strong thorn]

A guy with the username Smoke got one

Of the second rack

Is in this chat

Way way up

[full cave]

Cool. Will look for it tomorrow. After 3 hrs tonight and only seeing 4 deer Im bummed. WT were funner before the patch. Which is even more of a bummer after waiting so long for this.

[strong thorn]

Patrick, PRO, Smoke(got banned)

They got GOs

[violet schooner]

@strong thorn why

[strong thorn]

But Smoke got the different Rack

@strong thorn why
@violet schooner maybe he left

But I just scrolled up to where his GO should have been and the text was gone

[full cave]

Saddest part is I took Monday off to have a 3 day COW/WT GO holiday. 3 hrs into it and I just put in a differnt "hunting game" to go shoot some ducks! 🙈🙈

[feral silo]

@full cave I manually reset my population a few days after EW did it, and whitetails are spawning just fine for me. I obviously had to check my entire map and find all the new zones, but I think I have 1-2 more zones than before the patch. Have you checked every single lake at the correct times? Because from my experience, with about 6000~ whitetails harvested so far and multiple runs across my entire map to find zones, it seems like they can spawn at every single lake and/or body of water on your map, even the coastline on each side and the smaller lakes (like the ones next to balmont lake).

But if you can’t find any zones anywhere, maybe you could try resetting your population like I did (if you’re on PC).

[full cave]

Thats cool. No I play console

[feral silo]

Ah, then I don’t know 😅 Hope it works out for ya

[vital geyser]

Does anybody know if they can still find a photo of both GO variants

Or do we just have the main one

[restive briar]

If Smoke's ain't here then I guess the mods removed it thinking it was a hacked GO (which it wasn't). There's more than two variants though. I think there's six in total if I recall? Only two variants have been killed legit though. There's pics around of the hacked/cheated GOs, you'll just need to do some digging. They aren't allowed to be posted here.

[full cave]

Check dd's if you wanna see them

[vital geyser]

Thanks

But like is there much difference

Or are they all just a giant porcupine of antlers

[strong thorn]

The hacked GOs are here tho

[vital geyser]

I saw the GOs that were melanistic,albino, piebald, etc.

I just didnt see the different rack

[strong thorn]

these were posted in trophy shots
And as I Checked again, I noticed @ocean orchid is still in the discord

He has the different rack

[vital geyser]

I appreciate it

If I cant find it in DD's ill probably DM him

So would it even be worth trying to grind a GO right now with how the WT are

[strong thorn]

I don't even know man, haven't put a foot on Layton since a month before the update

[vital geyser]

I walked through a bit ago from 12-1530 and found like only 2 WT drink zones

But yeah I see the other fabled racks

The other ones actually arent too bad

[merry sand]

@full cave what is dd's? i wanna see them

[strong thorn]

The hunter DD33

The worst CotW youtuber

[mellow matrix]

I wouldn’t say the worst but definitely one of the worst

[vital geyser]

Yeah I dont like watching his stuff that much

[strong thorn]

Pretty darn bad also he spreads wrong info

[mellow matrix]

Yea like that time he said to save your diamonds for truracs but there was a pop reset that was already announced

[vital geyser]

And he also talked about how there's size differences for the turkeys and ducks when their isnt any at all

[strong thorn]

Not in the model at least, in classic there is

[vital geyser]

Yeah I wish they did that for COTW

After they get the last antler TruRAC I want them to try to do something like that

[full cave]

I realized half the problem with WT is theyre literally making no noise in any fashion. You can hear the vegetation if youre close enough to hear them walking in it. Something went horribly wrong with the console "patch" WT are unplayable right now. Again the chase for the GO will be suspended until WT get fixed.

[vital geyser]

This patch def brought some crazy bugs

[paper apex]

What animals can be a fabled one...

[restive briar]

Just whitetail deer at the moment.

[paper apex]

How do I get one.

Or is it great one

I saw someone by the name of haunter_call of the wild I'm pretty sure and he got a 10 fabled caribou

[clear current]

Yeah they was a bug only 10 fabled whitetail at the moment

[restive briar]

Fabled animals (level 10s) when harvested proper get their own special trophy rating (Great One). That should clear that confusion up for ya. Now to actually kill one you'll basically need to hope on respawns or just get extremely lucky. Their rarity is essentially comparable to super rares, if not greater.

[pliant oak]

the belief is you kill whitetails until one either randomly spawns or their is a minimum amount you may have to kill to force one to spawn. no one but the devs really know how this works

there has only been a handful of legitimate GO killed

the latest patch has made whitetail hunting a lot harder

zones changed and now whitetails are all over the map

so the probability of getting a great one now has dropped even more.

i personally think it was fine as it was previously and now these changes will actually effect how many people hunt whitetail. probably for the worse

i guess we will see over the next few months. its certainly killed my drive to even look for a great one now.

also took the fun out of hunting whitetail.

[full cave]

Yep. WT in this game is dead. I totally agree @pliant oak. This update had screwed everything about them up. Trophy rating,they don't make footsteps,zones up in the thick brush/forests,and population is def down. Theres no way to prove that just cause nobody knows how many exactly are on the map but I knew my map inside and out and can say for certain theres maybe half the pop there was before? Yea I think theres been 2 GO shot since the pc release. The other few were shot on consoles that were just the original GO. So yea I feel the same way and tell people not to waste their time/lives on chasing the GO until WT are fixed. Hope it doesnt take a couple months. Ive waited 2 months for this update and can't stomach another 2 month wait. Everybodys calling for more GO's,EW needs to figure out to make the first one and its species work flawless first then maybe add another if they can make just one work.

If this new version is on purpose then they need to bump GO spawn rate way up then. I hope its not supposed to be this way cause now theres so much dead space and waste of the map for WT at least.

[pliant oak]

the whitetail are on your map just more spread out in new locations

theyve basically spread them out more across layton]

instead of having say maybe 10 at a big known locations.

the thing with this is it makes it more grindy and less fun to hunt them. as you will have to visit more locations find more locations with fewer whitetails at those spots

[full cave]

Just been playing on SRP. Man I wish animals were as plentiful on Layton. Esp deer.
Yea tha5s what I'm Say in Ron. If it's going to be like it is now with WT they def need to up GO spawn rate cause at tbis rate it'll take 10 years to find one. I understand they want them to be rare but things as they are,whats the point?? Lol

[ocean orchid]

@strong thorn Have neither been banned nor left :) Just been kinda busy with non hunter stuff recently. Have not gotten around to play at all so I havent checked in much here either.

[strong thorn]

I noticed, sorry for spreading the fake news of your departure from the discord

[ocean orchid]

No worries

Mine is still the only other rack found so far?

By the way. I still think we should have a "Great One" room, similar to the "Super Rares" one, where all the great ones that have been shot could be posted.

[strong thorn]

Yes to both

[full cave]

Yea forget the GO. Go to SRP instead. Its as fun as Layton used to be. I know theres no GO on that map. But GO there you'll have 100 times the fun opposed to chasing the GO until WT are fixed!!!

[coarse grotto]

@ocean orchid Could you maybe post your GO again? I've only seen the one rack, and someone said yours is different from others?

I looked but couldn't find it for the life of me.

[ancient nacelle]

Is there talk of when the wt will b fixed

[full cave]

?

[ancient nacelle]

Thats there fix

[coarse grotto]

Essentially they made them less fun to hunt.

[ancient nacelle]

Dumb

[coarse grotto]

Yep 😔

Explains why I saw them at the Ronachee lake.

[full cave]

oh

[cold marten]

don't take advice from ron

[full cave]

idk i dont play wild and thats what i saw

isnt ron the guy who spawmashed mentioned in classic?

[cold marten]

well yeah, he's also wrong about most of the things he says

[full cave]

oh my bad

lmao

[coarse grotto]

I guess we'll have to wait and see from more Great One hunters.

[ocean orchid]

@coarse grotto

[pliant oak]

well yeah, he's also wrong about most of the things he says
@cold marten dont troll me its a waste of time. 😁

[cold marten]

I'm ngl, although your suppose to be excited about getting a great one, I don't like most of the racks that the great ones have

they are either too small, too weird or just a bunch a points slapped onto antlers

not enough randomness in my opinion

[pliant oak]

whats that got to do with the info ? 😁

what i put is true. the whitetail have been spread out now across the whole of layton lakes.

so people will assume they not there now.

[cold marten]

that's weird, I don't have em across the whole area

maybe that's just my whitetail spawns though, since they are shitty

[pliant oak]

everyone does your game isnt different to anyone elses

[cold marten]

hm

[pliant oak]

also randy @full cave if you wanna know something ask. far easier to be a clown than be genuine.

[arctic comet]

@ocean orchid hax or real?

[coarse grotto]

@ocean orchid Interesting, thank you!

[strong thorn]

SmOke is for real

He shot like 10'000 deer

[full cave]

is it just me or have they made rabbits like 10x more common in layton since the patch?

They are everywhere

[cold marten]

they have always been everywhere

[full cave]

Yeah I know, but it feels like there's far more of them

but 🤷‍♂️

[full cave]

well whitetail got fucked

so probably

Really? Just about done rediscovering my WT drink zones and it seems to be just as many as before the patch

if not more

atleast on my map

[torpid sluice]

really? i have half the amount i had, at best

and i've been pretty much everywhere with water on layton from 12-15:30

weirdest thing is how they seem to almost entirely avoid highton river now, like i understand dispersing them from the river but now they avoid it like the plague, i only have 1 drink zone along the entire thing

[pliant oak]

you have the same amount of whitetail as before they just spread out more across layton

so it is harder to hunt for whitetail now

as you will have to visit more locations to get the same kinda amount

[vital geyser]

Was the respawn thing intentional?

[full cave]

Yea I play on console and have scoured my map. I def dont have the same population. So Id k but somethings not right

[main berry]

I did a quick check and found somethings not right I guess its a good thing I got the wt I wanted back in May. Though still waiting for the GO placement bug to be fixed.

[full cave]

Hey Ferrell. Yea I'm trying the last couple spots on my map I havent checked before I say F it with WT. Ive heard from a few pc players that said they experienced the same thing and they reset their pop files and they seemed to go back to normal. That doesnt help console players at all but just shows theres some issue there. Just throwing out what ive heard from others to help if any devs read this chat. But def something not rigit. The games time consuming as it is but the way WT are now its a complete waste of tume and most of all its beyound boring. I'll play other games or other maps for some action. Who wants to at for several hours to kill a couple of the "stick figure" racks as I refer to them as. At least the new mulies are fresh have way more variation to them. Sad to say. Just as a hardcore WT hunter in real life. But I'm also a hardcore duck hunter too and we all know what mallards are in the game.

Another thing ive noticed with the few zines ive found is about half of them the WT show up at 14-1430 and take off at 1458. So you may have half an hour to try and get what you can. So there seems to be an issue there as well. I thought mulie drink zones were too short at 1 1/2 hours. An hour or less is ridiculous.

[full cave]

Also after hours of playing the update I havent heard a single WT make any kind of call. No warning call,mating call or even footsteps for that matter. Beyound frustrating g to wait months for tbis update only to be even more frustrated and upset that the update just broke them all together.

[full cave]

Yea forget Layton and the GO guys. I just spent 1/4 of the same time on SRP and have shot 13 animals. Way more fun and action. Unless you like the super slow,boring style of a couple animals an hour. Just avoid Layton WT and the GO.

[vital geyser]

Yeah thats a shame

The GO is already rare enough

[full cave]

Yep exactly. Ive already shot 10 mulies on SRP and havent seen the same antler configuration twice. With WT you'll matbe see 2-3 antler variation of the same rack some smaller and some larger. Just boring. WT need a total overhaul so to speak. I lived for the GO since its release and I'm so burnt out and bored not just with Layton but also the same 6-8 antler variations. Every diamond looks the same. Just size variation. Ive shot the only 14 pount variant so many times. I myself am.done with it. So boring. I know theyve added new GO variations but we have no idea if all of them are actually spawning correctly and with the new difficulty llevel of WT and the GO rareness pretty safe to say well never actually know. Id be upset if I was the artist who created it but little to nobody ever got to see the artwork. But just my opinion. If theyre just In it for the paycheck then they probably dont care. But if theyre true artists then I'm guessing theyre disappointed as well.

[full cave]

I think I had 20ish WT drink zones prepatch, got done last night and on my first scouring I got 18 drink zones, and that number will only increase the more I hunt them.

Odd how it differs.

[torpid sluice]

where are you finding the largest concentrations @full cave ?

i'll admit there's maybe 3 lakes i haven't been to, including the big one in mount leviathan, maybe i have like 8 WT drink zones there lol

[full cave]

@torpid sluice by the two rivers that split in the middle

Balmont is decent aswell for me

[torpid sluice]

i only have one drink zone at the river

i used to have about 15 on the western river, all gone now, replaced by 1 new one

[main berry]

All thats makes complete sense @full cave

[mellow matrix]

@main berry aren’t you the guy who got the first GO

[restive briar]

Nope.

[main berry]

Nope 1st on playstation. overall i was 3rd this man was first^

[full cave]

Thanks Ferrell. Some think I'm insane but I know layton better than any map. Some disagree but just watched a vid on Layton specifically and it proved the point. Yes there's a few WT in previously unused or rarely used by WT but over all theyre either very difficult to find or theres not as many. All maps are different but I know on my map theyre way harder to find and seems that overall theres less of them for whatever reason.

[full cave]

Before patch I had 30 drink zones,43 collectively with feed zones included. After patch ive got 16 in total. 7 that didnt get changed from the patch which includes drink zones,am and pm feed zones. Pretty easy to do the math 😹😹 But thats just my map.

[full cave]

Also one thing that really bothers me about the GO and WT in general is the fact that the devs dont respect the fact we as players put in hundreds of hours into building up our maps. Then they decide to change everything,which I'm ok with if they can be honest and disclose this to us. That and if youre you g to make changes you better make sure tjeres no issues/bugs with the change. Like WT not making calls,no foot steps,drink zones way out of normal positions and such. Makes it very hard to want to go back and at the game cause I feel theyre a playing games with us. I'm talking hundreds of hours of playing time and building and there's zero mention from devs on the current changes. I get wanting to make some thimgs a suprise but to basically flush all of our hard work and dedication down the shitter just cause,is really not cool. Makes it so had to rebuild again. Esp when you think of the next "update" One asks themselves is it worth it to at the game and rebuild cause they'll probably blow the whole thing up again and make you start over. Whats the payoff for us players is the real question?!?!?! It def isnt a GO that were all chasing and obsessed with. Id k again just my opinion. Whats happening to us is def not cool. Makes you want to play the game less and move on to other games. Just a thought for the devs that are coming up with these ideas. Just be honest with us. Tell us whats going on man.

[full cave]

I dont care what any body has to say in Dm. If you dont like.my opinion say it here in chat. This chats about the GO. Theres obviously an issue about WT. I'm.Just raising the issues. Thats what the chats about.

[lime oxide]

For some reason, I can’t find the in game picture, but I swear this deer looks like one of the Great One variations, possible inspiration?

[pliant oak]

yeah there is a similar version to that someone has shot i believe.

Tdogg quite a few agree. i think personally its made whitetail hunting worse. hopefully feedback is taken in maybe reviewed.

[main berry]

There waa a rack shape spoiled by hackers that looked like that

[vast geyser]

I'm in the same boat with the grind. I track every WT kill, my plan was always to make some big post with stats and tips and stuff when I finally got a GO. I was ~1500 in, which isn't that much compared to some but still. I have since reset my pop just to make it completely clean. I've found 11 drink zones. I know there are some more, but goodness they are hard to find. On top of that, the zones I am harvesting from have stopped spawning bucks, even with doing every trick for getting them to spawn. This is after only 57 total harvests. Because of that, I'm just not motivated to scour the map for more zones that probably won't even get respawns. I've thrown in the towel unless something changes. I'm still playing the game because there are a few maps I don't feel I have truly completed, but whether this was an intentional change or a bug, it's caused me to have little desire to play cotw.

[full cave]

Why is this channel still a thing xd?

[supple tulip]

As a testament to Lucretius

[full cave]

xd thats true. I remember the hype when that happened

Why wouldn’t this chat be a thing? It’s useful.

[strong thorn]

And its one of the only chats where conversation can derail without the mods sweeping in to delete the convo

[cerulean palm]

@strong thorn don’t tempt fate. We watch.

[strong thorn]

But we can speculate in here right?

[cerulean palm]

correct

[strong thorn]

Then Ok

[mellow matrix]

@strong thorn finally somebody had to say that

[strong thorn]

I wasn't trying to be rude

[mellow matrix]

Ik I agree with u

[supple tulip]

Yeah I agree there isn’t much a point to this chat

Well except for talking about GO’s

[full cave]

Yep exactly Ron. I just try to leave feedback. Sometimes its good and lately its just been constructive feedback.
Yea this chat has become just feedback and speculation. Without it it would be dead since theres little to no GOs being shot. Myabe another clue to the devs that GO is too rare? Just a thought

[restive briar]

This chat will become a lot more active when other GOs are added. The big reason why this chat stayed up after the initial beta was due to the overwelming comradery between everyone working together. Whenever another GO is added you'll see that same amount of buzz pick back up. Better than flooding General with GO chatter nonstop for days on end.

[vital geyser]

What do you guys think the next GO will be

[full cave]

Oh I totally agree better here than in general. And yes without any "hype" its not like it was in the beginning when it was fun cause there's little to no GOs being shot. So its just become a lot of banter. At least seeing a GO being shot even once in a great while would keep the "hype" going and probably fuel more of that comradery. Example is after this post patch for pc we saw one new version posted here and that stoked the fire a Tiny bit. Ive heard of a second but never seen it posted here. After that there's been nothing and the fire died out right away. I know there were a couple others but I don't count them as part of post patch cause they were taken on consoles without the patch and were the OG GOs. I could very well probably be wrong but seems from discord anyways that in the 21/2 months or so since the patch release started with pc theres been maybe 2 GOs shot off this patch? That's way less than before. Maybe thats what they want is for them to be rarer than "super rares" ? Hard to say cause theres no transparency so to speak which also fuels a lot of incorrect speculation.

[vital geyser]

Wait so i looked back in pins and tree kiwi said that GOs arent non-typ features

Does this mean we can get non typicals in the lower levels down the line?

[cerulean palm]

I believe that was said because everyone thought we were getting non typicals in lower levels at the same time, this was not the case its that the GOs are non typical style racks but anything is possible in the future. As they tend to say in the dev streams, look at the content in classic

[vital geyser]

Truue, i would like to get more non typ styles though, especially like the ones in classic

[mellow matrix]

But I feel like they would overdo it and make non-typicals really common even tho they aren’t irl

[full cave]

At the very least they could add some variation to the antlers. I myself am.So sick of the cookie cutter diamond 14 point that every diamond Ive shot has. Maybe make the diamonds the different nontypes. Id k but they need to do something cause after the new mulies and all their variations I myself am done with WT. Which isn't easy cause thats what brought me into the game. They got stale fast and the GO brought me back. And after waiting months for an update that was just a debacle on the release date. Waited a xouple more months and realized this hyped up patch just messed them up I'm too sour and lost any joy I had in WT hunting in the game. The only way I myself will renguage with Layton and WT is if they do something different with the GO and WT. Not holding my breath tho.

[vital geyser]

They should redo the WT racks as a whole

They are so unrealistic

I dont want them to do what they did with Elk either by adding a couple better racks and calling it a day

I think they should just redesign WT

[full cave]

SRP and how its set up and done is way more funner than Layton. Layton used to be fun but now its just lame. Such a shame cause there's some really cool spots on the river and now the river is a dessert so to speak as far as WT GO. Just avoid the river. Where I live is what the river system used to be like. You find the sweet spots and the WT are everywhere on the river.

Having said that there are a couple zones on the river but theyre so far up in the brush its not the same so to speak. So keep looking around the river but more so up into the brush areas

[vital geyser]

On a side note of the conversation I think this is what the GO everyone is getting is based off of

[supple tulip]

Look at that man

Does he even have a chin outside of that neck

What a man

[full cave]

I agree master b that they need a total rework. The small 2 stick figure racks are ridiculous. There's the few 8 and 10 poimt cookie cutter racks and the 14 point overly repetitive cookie cutter lvl2s and diamond rack. Trurac has 0 imagination with WT. Mulies well it seems to be working very well.

Yes I do like the OG GO myself. It's actually the highest scoring variation weve seen. I think it was meant to be the grand daddy rack but unfortunately was the only one spawning into the game. The other variants score much smaller than the OG

[slate grotto]

I personally haven't run into any animals with Trurac yet but seeing screenshots and such, some of the Cervidae could get a remodeling for antlers/horns.

[full cave]

Whatever it was they were trying to achieve with this new patch actually has killed WT as far as I'm concerned. But just my opinion cause thats all I chased. If it aint broke dont fix it. Maybe relocate a couple of the zones. But the maps so big if they really wanted WT in unused areas just add more population to the game in the unused areas. Now the river is just a stretch of dead space. If theres more pop and the GO depends on respawns,it ups the excitement and the odds of people actually having a legit chance at a GO and the game overall more action packed and funner. I myself dont want to spend hours for just a couple kills. I go to SRP where you can have 5 different species ish g a lake or field and be overwhelmed with excitement where I dont know what to do. Hahahhaa

And I'm saying that as a "former" obsessed player of Layton and the GO. Now I avoid it like the corona virus. Its just not fun anymore. But again just my opinion. I know others think its amazing. We all have our own opinions.

[slate grotto]

I've never really stuck to layton sadly, right now I'm at Hirschfelden and I'm just standing here having Roe and Fallow deer walk up to me and just catch me off guard lol (luterally had like 6 fallow in front of me as I'm typing this :l) but on another note, I wanna get SRP soon

[full cave]

Nice @slate grotto !! Yes get SRP as soon as you can. The more I play it the more I love it. Layton used to be that map but now I dont even think of Layton and the GO anymore.

[slate grotto]

Payday is coming so you've convinced me @full cave

XD

[full cave]

Which is a shame because I myself and hundreds of others spend hundreds of hours investing into that map and now that means nothing. Yes def do!!!! I was at a stand just tbis mothing and had at least 25-30 animals right 8n front of me and I froze cause I didnt know what to do!! I had mulies in front of me'turkeys on top.of me,big horns just up the hill,goats up the hill to the left of me,prong up the field to the right of me and I didnt know which to go after!! It was awesome!!!! Thats why I dont pay attention to Layton anymore. Yes every once in a great while you'll see WT and BT at the same area and maybe a fee female moose and some female Elk. Rabbits seem to be a plague in the "new layton" But absolutely no excitement like that!!!! BT and WT have a very limited few cookie cutter antler variations but man the mulies are amazing and are more exciting than BT,WT and RE all put together!!!

[slate grotto]

:o I'm definitely buying it now omg, i have a hard enough time just finding a fox! Yukon is my favorite map at the moment because the game mechanics for the wolves is incredible. I've gamed hunting simulators for years like Cabela's dangerous hunts and big game hunter but i swear COTW won my heart since I first heard about it coming out

[full cave]

Yep it def did for me too. It was the WT and geese that sucked me in. The geese are still great WT well you know how I feel about them. You'll love SRP!!! Its so much more fun and actual action so to speak. Def worth it.

[slate grotto]

Ahhh I can't wait now! I was excited just seeing the launch of SRP but to experience it, that'll be one helluva night. I'll probably be playing that reserve all night the day I buy it

[full cave]

If I was a dev and knew nothing about WT would change and just be cookie cutter style I wouldve waited and intoduced the GO with the new mulies.

Hahaha yes you probably will!! I know I ignore the GO now and just spend every minute on SRP now!!

[slate grotto]

I agree and oh yeah, it'll definitely have me up all night ahah

[full cave]

That's good!! And I know a lot of people dm me and say I'm so negative. But thats who I am. I call a spade a spade. I call it like I see it. Theres so many people in the community where in any EW stream or discord they say everythings perfect and anybody associated are perfect and its amazing. And then in a different discord where they think nobodys watching they belly ache about it. Thats not how I roll. If I have an amazing experience I pump that up. If I have a negative experience I point that out. Thats how life is. Constructive criticism is a very goid thing. I know I adopt and apply that principle to my life and the business that I'm in. It raises issues and presents an opportunity to make things better. Opposed to the "fakes" who say eveythings amazing but are truly unhappy down deep and belly ache about it. But just how I live life so to speak.

[slate grotto]

Preach that up, constructive criticism gets things straightened out and be who you want, don't let others change you. I don't think you're negative at alleither because if anything, you're helpful and get whatever needs to be said out there!

[full cave]

Thanks @slate grotto !! Oh yes nobody will change my style and how I roll. Non of the trolls will suck me in and change my opinion. It's a discord and what its meant to be so to speak. If nobody speaks up nothing will change. Regardless of some peoples opinion I still love the GO principal and what its meant to be. But the way this gs are theyre going farther and farther away from the overall goal. I see that and understand it. I just want to help in the end. I want that "amazingly awesome experinece" with Layton and WT and esp mallards since I'm a "gun dog trainer" But things as they are are far from Amazing. Lol. So hopefully my feedback helps. Thats all I truly want and what the goal is regardless of what most people think.

I'm not here to just bash on EW and the people related to it. I'll make that clear right now. My goal.is to express my experience with the game whether its good or bad. The door swings both ways. I'm not just going to suck up and only pimp the good things and ignore the negative things. I just live the game and hope to help to develop more good things. Thats all my goal is.

[main berry]

^

[slate grotto]

You're definitely helping and your experience helps others as well. Reviews and opinions can change a community for the better!

[lethal mortar]

^

[full cave]

Truth to that!!! Thanks man!!! And thanks ferrell!!! Appreciate you guys!!! And @lethal mortar.

[lethal mortar]

Hehe typo gang

[obsidian token]

Whats fable ones?

[full cave]

I def appreciate that cause as of lately ive expressed a lot of opinions and recieved too much hate in Dm cause of my opinions. But I just want to progress the game that I love and esp the species I love (WT) obviously. Lol.

[lethal mortar]

Yeah your good man speak your mind

[full cave]

Fabled one is a grand "ultimate" trophy in the game which right now is a whitetail deer.

[lethal mortar]

Also anyone not getting any whitetail respawns or only me?

[main berry]

Its same for everyone

[lethal mortar]

Yeah so I’m kinda done with the game rn

I’ll cya guys

[obsidian token]

So are they like the great ones?

[full cave]

Cya @lethal mortar !! Yes it's the GO milkman. Same thing. Fabled is one of the rare fur variations of the GO

[obsidian token]

Ahh that's pretty cool, im quite new to the game

[full cave]

Supposed to be a cross of PIEBALD mela fur variation.

[slate grotto]

My fiance and I were actually playing not that long ago amd we saw a moose that was the color scheme of a black and white cow

[supple tulip]

Piebald

[slate grotto]

When we went to shoot, game crashed DX

Yeees that's it!

[supple tulip]

Yes those are very rare

I've only seen 1

And I've got 320 hours

[full cave]

HAJAJA THATS awesome youve got a FIANCE thats into the game!! Shes a "keeper" 😹😹😹

[slate grotto]

He bought it for me :p

Btw im the keeper xD

[full cave]

Awesome!!

Hahahaa 😹😹

[slate grotto]

Here's a question for rare fur variants, are there any for wolves other than white?

[full cave]

I'm out. You guys have a great night!!

[slate grotto]

You as well!

[obsidian token]

Cya

[supple tulip]

@slate grotto There are

I've got a melanistic wolf

Right above the bed there

For gray wolves, there is melanistic, eggshell, red brown, and albino if I recall correctly

[slate grotto]

Oooo ive got one of those but wasnt sure if it was rare or not. Luckily i taxidermized it :o but egg shell i havent seen yet as well as red brown

[supple tulip]

Yeah

They're rare

[slate grotto]

Definitely gonna keep my eyes open for em then, wolf hunting is one of my favorites when on Yukon

[full cave]

One final thought to the GO chasers. When im most frustrated with everything I remind myself. That the games made by an overseas company and theyve openly admitted that a small percentage of the devs are actually real life hunters and they build the game off of tbose peoples experiences and the rest off what they read in books. So as far as Layton goes theres probably little if any of the devs that have actually picked up a bow or rifle for that matter and walked into the woods and hunted WT in real life. I'm not making excuses but helps put my mind at ease at leaste a little bit 😂😂😂

[slate grotto]

^ yes xD and speaking of WT, i wish hunting season would get here quicker!

[full cave]

Only 3 weeks away my man!!! At least for bowhuntings opener where I am!!! Same with grouse!! I love it cause bow season and small game open on the same day!!$$

I usually start with WT bow cause the woods are still super thick for chasing grouse. But at the same time when opener hits theres the most grouse available. So thats when a good dog comes in handy!!!!

[slate grotto]

I got wait till halloween for deer season here sadly BUT bear season opens up in September I believe for bow hunters which is EXCITING AS HELL

[sudden garden]

@full cave I agree. Criticizing the game is the only way to get this game fixed

[thorn vessel]

Hello, after taking 1654 wt 6 diamonds one being 107kg I am finding it really hard to continue the grind, anyone else feeling really discouraged

[mellow matrix]

107kg is a great one

I think

[thorn vessel]

My understanding is that some of the GO racks are broken so they spawn as diamond racks

[mellow matrix]

Oh that’s right. They need to fix that

[thorn vessel]

Think it is the worst part of the GO grind

[mellow matrix]

But to answer your question, yes whitetail have been harder to find because their zones delete constantly and they move

[gusty brook]

Been hunting layton today. going from tent to tent and walking around/along rivers and lakes trying to at least find some zones. in like 2 hours or so ive found maybe 3 zones. I think i will stay away from white tail hunting for now.

[vital geyser]

Ive had more fun hunting blacktail than whitetail

They cone in such bigger groups

And imo their racks looks much better and realistic

[olive jackal]

id like to see more wide rack diamonds all the ones ive seen are like high racks with more mass

[shadow spindle]

the blacktail racks look like actual shit wdym

they're probably the worst racks in game

even worse than the rosie elk racks

the diamond blacktail racks should be like silvers or small golds

[full cave]

They're very "cookie Cutter" indeed

The only antlers that have variation and look good are the new mulies. But just my opinion.

[tribal pawn]

blacktail are tiny irl, a 140" buck irl is once in a lifetime kill for them hence them being so small ingame. i do think the diamond racks need a tiny bit of tweaking but not really a upsize just a better looking rack @shadow spindle

[full cave]

100% truth there brotha

[vital geyser]

I think after they get done giving those TruRAC axis deer I think they should probably go back to the first few truracs

and redo them

Whitetail really need a tweak

And I think the models for white/blacktail could be redesigned

[shadow spindle]

yeah i don't mean an upsize, i mean it needs more tines and such

the size is fine

could be a little bigger maybe

but the tines and such suck

[vital geyser]

They should make them basically like smaller mule deer

[tribal pawn]

nah they dont need more tines

like mule deer they are typically 4 points when they are mature

[sudden garden]

I forget, what do big ones look like irl compared to the game blacktails

[vital geyser]

Imo not that bad actually, but i think the antlers should be retextured and the 5s should get more variation

[supple tulip]

Blacktail have toothpick antlers in CotW compared to real life

[vital geyser]

That too theyre very thin

Yeah theres a few other racks out there

The blacktail definitely lack

But better than whitetail to me

I cant wait to see how the next GO looks

[sudden garden]

Yea some antlers in this game lack girth

[supple tulip]

Didn't the devs say the next GO isn't going to be revealed?

[vital geyser]

Yeah itll be secretive

Unless nobody can fund it

But im putting money its blacktail

[supple tulip]

Well if that's the case, I think it'll be quite a while before we find the next GO

And honestly, I like it better that way

It creates some mysticism and illusion to GO's

[vital geyser]

Yeah i like thay part

But i also feel they are just so rare and the hype for them dies down very fast

[supple tulip]

Well that sort of goes for anything

[vital geyser]

True but i mean it feels like theyre rarer than the non typs in classic

I feel they should at least make them about as rare as ultra rares or maybe a tad bit rarer

[supple tulip]

The thing is they aren't like Classic's nontyicals

These are meant to be absolute legends of animals

Stuff that hunters hear stories about

[vital geyser]

Eh true, but i think itd be cool if they added proper non typs then

[viscid cairn]

I think with truracs it’ll be this first wave of all antlered/horned animals getting truracs to begin with, the second wave being adding minor improvements and antler variations and then the third wave will be adding non-typs.

Non typs that aren’t as impressive or rare as the GO but not as bland and common as typical racks either

[torpid sluice]

kinda have a feeling if we get another species GO it'll be red deer next time

[full cave]

Blacktail have toothpick antlers in CotW compared to real life
@supple tulip idk if you noticed but the deer models in general aren't the strong point. If you get what I'm saying.

[iron bison]

@thorn vessel i stopped grinding for a WT GO. I feel like if I ever get one, it’ll be a random encounter, not when I’m specifically going to a zone looking for WT

Idk how many WT I bagged, but I’ve been grinding since the release, few hours a day. Stopped 2 weeks ago to play Silver Peaks (xbox here)

[tidal laurel]

hello, I have a problem when clicking the left mouse button when the scope is on, the "hunter" opens

[thorn vessel]

I want to play SRP but I know when I stop the grind I won’t go back to it.

[iron bison]

Well worth it. Incredible map

[vital geyser]

Oh yeah SRP will drag you away from layton in general

I love that map so kuch even with its issues

[vast geyser]

Just had a random thought that got me back into the GO grind - I am on PC and backup my complete game every few days. I keep all the old backups, mostly because I'm too lazy to clean up my computer, but also incase something very stupid happens. I took the Layton pop file from one of my old backups and replaced my current one with it. Had to re-configure my tents and stuff to the old pop drink zones, but a few days post set-up and respawns seem to be working normally, and I don't have the annoyance of the difficult to find spots, drinking way up in brush, changes in zones being spread out (I didn't have a single zone with more than 2 bucks since the update), etc. Worth looking into if you are like me and had quit with the recent changes

[thorn vessel]

For those of you on the grind, how many need zones have you found?

[torpid sluice]

maybe like 12 drink zones

compared to the 20 i had prior to the update

i'm assuming the other 8 are there, they're just either in weird areas or they're much further back from the shoreline and buried in deep brush on areas i've already checked

a few of the 12 were kinda difficult to find already

[thorn vessel]

I’ve noticed too a lot smaller groups of bucks

[torpid sluice]

i have a few zones with like 5 bucks at them

not any with many more than that

[thorn vessel]

That’s awesome my biggest is 3

[torpid sluice]

i would scour the swamp and south lake more

each of those have 3-5 drink zones for me

whereas pre-update they were whitetail dead zones

[thorn vessel]

I’ve found 34 zones after the update still need to check the swamp and western coast

[torpid sluice]

oh damn nevermind then lol

[thorn vessel]

Only 13 are still producing bucks tho

[torpid sluice]

wait 34 need zones in total or 34 drink zones

[thorn vessel]

34 drink zones

[torpid sluice]

jesus

are u on pc?

[thorn vessel]

I’m sure there are more that I’ve accidentally covered up with rabbit or moose zones

No xbox

[torpid sluice]

ah okay

try resting for like 4 or 5 days in a row