#🦌︴great-ones

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full cave
strong thorn
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Thx

tribal pawn
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Brow tines or eyegaurds is what they are called

strong thorn
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We call those defenses

full cave
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Interesting

strong thorn
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Thanks for clarifying

full cave
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🙂

strong thorn
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Most mule deer pics we've sent have terrible brow tines

tribal pawn
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Mule deer aren't known for their eyegaurds they usually are small and alot dont even have them

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Biggest brow I've seen on one was 8" tho

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3"+ is real good

full cave
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Yea
The way they are on cotw are so weird looking

strong thorn
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All right, but the models from CotW should then just be wider with longer tines

tribal pawn
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Cotws muleys look nothing like them

full cave
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Yea

tribal pawn
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Forks are disgusting general rack sizes also disgusting then you have the curly brow tines which is not realistic in the slightest

full cave
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Indeed

tribal pawn
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And mule deer can get 40" wide so I'd like to see a big male with that size of a spread

full cave
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I like the look of velvet mule deer too irl

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This was a decent velvet mule deer I saw in Colorado behind a hotel

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Bedded down

strong thorn
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Rest zone next to the lodge

full cave
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😂

strong thorn
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That is how a small level 4 should look like

tribal pawn
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lvl 3

hollow mountain
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No lvl 1

full cave
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Cotw mule deer look like a 205" mule from classic.

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Maybe even a 195"

tribal pawn
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no

full cave
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Big racks are alright...? they dont really look like mule deer though.

tribal pawn
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a diamond looks like a 160"

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big rack looks horrific

full cave
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yeaa

strong thorn
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Lvl 2 equals a 3year old deer

full cave
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scrap the level system and make it age classes already darn it

tribal pawn
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The lvl 5s are only a 3yr old deer in trophy areas lol

full cave
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Yep

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If they could nail it like classic mule deer but a tad more original that would be perfect.

tribal pawn
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i hate classics

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they all have the same rack

full cave
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hence why i said original.

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Had a nice one walk in looked pretty thin we all said 220s at most

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nope 244.802 #1 lb

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Only thing thats different is spread.

full cave
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That should be a level 2 or 3

warm spade
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so red deer great ones would make sense, for them to pick an animal that is on multiple maps, and it's on 3. mule deer are on 2, including the newest one so also a good pic.

violet schooner
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@warm spade it could be more than one it could be none

warm spade
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true, i sort of assumed they would add fabled one species at a time and one of their recent streams they said something about the fact that they aren't sure how they should do it, if they should announce it or if they should just add it and wait for the first person to find one and say, "yea we did that"

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they did they if they announced it would be ... "hey we added it, go find out which species"

lime oxide
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@warm spade or they could pick an animal that is not on many maps or is a region exclusive and use that to their advantage. Like make a GO reindeer, that'll atract hunters to that region as I barely see anyone play on Medved, and it'll get more people to buy the DLC for medved, just to find the GO reindeer

warm spade
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i assumed they would do the opposite, but white tail are only on one map so that could be

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red deer are on the "other" free map, so maybe they won't do it that way

lime oxide
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But i would like a GO red deer though. Level 9s look hella big, i can't even imagine what level 10 would look like

warm spade
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oh i know, i haven't even killed a diamond but i got a few level 9s

lime oxide
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I have yet to see one in game. Ive been getting a whole bunch of 7s and once a while a 8, but ive been out of luck for any 9s lol

warm spade
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my only diamond, is a goose i got day 1 of having the goose pack

inland orbit
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This one is definitely legit

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But it looks really ugly

violet schooner
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That’s one of the coolest racks I’ve seen, it looks more realistic than other racks to cause of the size and stickers

inland orbit
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But this one is the most realistic so far

violet schooner
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Only realistic thing is the drop tines

fossil spear
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unrealistic that both antlers look almost symmetrical

inland orbit
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Every non typ rack is symmetrical

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And thats the most stupid thing here

strong thorn
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Get that hacked thing out of here

fossil spear
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that is true

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dont post hacked in animals

strong thorn
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I'm just kidding, but real talk we don't even know if that rack is really on the game

fossil spear
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I mean i'm pretty sure its against the rules to post any modded in animals now

inland orbit
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My god, you will probably never see animal like this again, even devs won't show you new go racks. This thing is super super rare so why cant people even see what to look for. Thats weirdo

fossil spear
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super super rare is an understatement

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you have around the same chance of winning the lottery and having one of those spawn

ocean orchid
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Someone posted it on Zaggis discord
@inland orbit Bro I posted it here as well.

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In trophy shots

inland orbit
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Oh I didnt notice it

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Congrats btw!

ocean orchid
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Thanks mate

fossil spear
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lucky to get yours after they fixed the rack variations

ocean orchid
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true. The grind took me an eternity though.

fossil spear
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theres probably people out there who got theirs early dreading how they used up their luck

inland orbit
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@fossil spear yeah so why the hell its against the rules to post possible rack variations. People won't even know what to look for and if it worths. Very stupid rule

fossil spear
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why are you asking me

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i dont make the rules

inland orbit
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Yeah not asking, just saying

fossil spear
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but they made a big deal about it the other day when people posted a bunch of hacked in animals

strong thorn
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I'll start my grind today, I'll keep record of everything, hours, WT kills, how many rares, how many diamonds

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And when I get a GO I'll post it with the stats

ocean orchid
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Best of luck to you @strong thorn . Hope you get it faster than I did!

strong thorn
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Could you possibly send me a picture of your map to see where to put my stuff?

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Please

ocean orchid
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Sure but every map is different. You'll have to find your own zones.

strong thorn
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Right but It will give me a head start

ocean orchid
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no problem

strong thorn
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Thank you man

ocean orchid
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here you go. Marked down my zones too. The red circle is where I found the GO. Not that I think it really matters

strong thorn
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Thank you very much

tribal pawn
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Theres atleast 10 other drink zones for em that are not marked on there. When I was grinding for them (while they were broken) I found nearly 40 different herds/singles

full cave
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Fr

strong thorn
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I'll use this ones as a skeleton for my set up

ocean orchid
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@tribal pawn As I said before every map is different. I know there are more/different zones and they occasionally change too but those are the ones I hunted in the end. If you had 40 different herds you are just very lucky I guess because I estimate like a max. of 25 on my map. And believe me I checked multiple times very throughly. 100s of hours for sure.

wise crane
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I have only 22

ocean orchid
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Yeah thats more realistic than 40 haha

tribal pawn
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was just a heads up there are most likely a few herds you are missing

wise crane
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Prob on baltmont

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And willipeg

tribal pawn
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norden and high lake aswell

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roonachee

ocean orchid
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high lake is a pain in the asss to hunt so I just didnt mind the herd there. I had no more on Balmont 100%

wise crane
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I had nothing there but doesn't matter he got the GO still

tribal pawn
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yee obvously it worked

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just saying there be alot more zones for anyone curious

ocean orchid
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there is a map somewhere on the discord that has almost all zones marked down. Is literally almost at every body of water tho. Id always just suggest to check everything. Thats what I did. Multiple times actually. Whenever I felt like my zones were less productive I rechecked the whole map.

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Theree is a non marked lake in Layton Lows too

tribal pawn
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ye and worked real well

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it seems like the more you find and kill the more zones start to pop up i would take a break from grinding bucks and wander into areas i havent been/ hadnt had herds and often times id discorver some

ocean orchid
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yeah but I feel like theyy arent new herds most of the time but rather old herds that relocated

tribal pawn
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they wont relocate unless their zone has been deleted

ocean orchid
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thats untrue.

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I experienced it a lot of times during my grind

tribal pawn
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how so?

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so you are saying they completly leave to a different area to drink?

ocean orchid
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Some zones just stop spawning animals sometimes, even without big hunting pressure.

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Eventually the zones will disappear

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I only noticed this happening since the GO release though

tribal pawn
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yea weird things happen to zones when GOs spawn it seems

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most people that have gotten one say that ive noticed

ocean orchid
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not just when it spawned. All the time randomly.

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but since the release of the GO

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maybe a change was made to zones then

strong thorn
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I've noticed that since the change of the nervous state animals won't always respawn to the same zones

ocean orchid
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jep that might be it

strong thorn
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Same area but switch zones

ocean orchid
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another weird thing i noticed was when a zone stopped spawning bucks sometimes shooting a doe made them spawn again. I dont quite understand how that works tho

strong thorn
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Any other tips?

ocean orchid
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when you skip time the animals will need a while to get to their zones but thats probably obvious.

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I felt like most of the bucks respawn when you wait like 4-6 days.

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Most inportantly keep at it. Took me forever. Dont lose hope

wise crane
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In my experiences some bucks respawn the day after, i think It depends of the zone, some zones take more time.

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I think when that a zone stops producing bucks that doesn't mean they dissapeared, they just respawned in another random zone, that explains why a zone that always has 2 bucks suddenly has 4 the next day.

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When you kill a few does from a zone without bucks, the game balances it respawning a couple bucks from anothee zone that had more bucks than average.

ocean orchid
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yeah thatss my theory too.

finite jungle
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Technically you can have a silver scoring GO

strong thorn
ocean tulip
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You’d just have to pelt the GO with a .22 until it died or something like that

strong thorn
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Yeah but why?

full cave
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Technically you can have a silver scoring GO
@finite jungle no, no matter how harvest checks you fail it still will only drop to one tier, so gold

finite jungle
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Oh

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Well with that being the case, wouldn’t it be diamond if it only drops one tier?

strong thorn
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Really?

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GOs are only chad diamonds

full cave
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Well with that being the case, wouldn’t it be diamond if it only drops one tier?
@finite jungle from what I heard it’s actually gold, flinter said it in a video. Just word of mouth though, never personally seen a messed up GO

sharp junco
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There have been several messed up

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100% they turn into golds is old news

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But i still dont get how 1 can mess up a shot on a GO

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Rly angers me

lime oxide
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Buck Fever

wise crane
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Messing up a GO = instant retirenment

sharp junco
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I swear i wouldnt play cotw ever again if i would mess up a GO

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You will prolly find like 5 or 6 until the next GO is released if there finally fixed now

wise crane
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Same

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I will stop the grind when i get the first one, it's just too much time

strong thorn
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If anyone can catch them all is you

ocean tulip
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Its kinda easy to mess up a shot if the animal turns around right as you are already clicking the mouse

marble citrus
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or just randomly fucking stops mid walk

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and you catch shoulder blade

strong thorn
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You can simply not claim the animal and re load the game

marble citrus
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ye

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ez

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unless youre on multuiplayer

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and someone elses server

strong thorn
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Yes

forest marlin
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I just got a Great 1

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😂 😂 😂 😂

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White tail

grim dome
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Nice

full cave
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Really?

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Do you have a picture

strong thorn
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Yes show us

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See 2 believe

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And you have to tell the whole hunt story

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After the pic

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Or fake

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@forest marlin

forest marlin
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Srry my phone was dead, I was I could show u

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But I shot it a Balmot lake

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That huge lake, used a tripod, and I killed I guess around 200 White tails

I played for about 5-6 hours today
And idk what to acctually tell u

lime oxide
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You could show us your latest harvest screen, it will be on there

tribal pawn
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^ Or in your lodge

finite jungle
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^or in the trophy manager

forest marlin
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Kk I will when I get on

strong thorn
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Did you picked it up?

forest marlin
stuck karma
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Did you get it

tribal pawn
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Yay we have another liar here

wise crane
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Liar boi

twin cedar
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If u dont show the harvest history and the whole trophy shot then u are full of crap and lying to try and make yourself look cool@forest marlin

forest marlin
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Wdym harvest history

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That trophie might not even be on that

ocean tulip
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The trophy is almost always in harvest history

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Also why is the harvest screen cropped?

tribal pawn
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To hide that he didint kill it ofc

strong thorn
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I don't believe you and I wanted to feelsbadman

fossil spear
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somebody cant lie very well

violet schooner
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Yes they can but that’s not a good one

strong thorn
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If I get that rack on my grind I'll keep grinding

fossil spear
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Gunoil you pretty much contradicted yourself in only 9 words

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"they can lie well but they can't hide their lie"

strong thorn
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Don't shower poop on him when the bull is elsewhere

twin cedar
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Hes so full of it he has nothing but minecraft and fortnite clips

stuck karma
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Who

sage sparrow
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ice @stuck karma

stuck karma
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What

sage sparrow
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His name is ice

violet schooner
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Ice

stuck karma
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The faker

sage sparrow
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Yes

stuck karma
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Ok

violet schooner
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Not hard to tell

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Idk what your getting At here

full cave
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I feel like he got that pic from when EW showed off the great ones 🤣

strong thorn
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I really love the idea of a GO without grinding

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I love the idea of them not telling us which one is next

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Gives me butterflys in the stomach but also it gives me anxiety

prisma siren
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when you try to lie on the internet

sudden garden
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I cannot imagine what it's like seeing a GO. I nearly shit myself over a diamond grizzly once

prisma siren
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im not into cotw i just came here to see the liar

teal oasis
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How do u know he lied

neon cedar
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How would you even know if a GO is spawned in your map? Also, are they even more jumpy and cautious than regular diamonds?

strong thorn
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Nah

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Same AI as diamonds

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Also animals in CotW are pretty dumb

neon cedar
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I'm aware

strong thorn
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If you spook a GO chances are he runs straight to you

heady lintel
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Great Ones have heightened senses. More so than a Diamond.

violet schooner
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@heady lintel diamonds had heightened senses

heady lintel
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Over gold sure. Great Ones have heightened senses over Diamonds.

strong thorn
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Says who?

prisma siren
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the moderator

heady lintel
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The devs have said it.

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"Great One has a new difficulty of 10 - Fabled, which means its senses are very sharp (although there's still balance between species, so a level 8 lion will probably have sharper senses than a level 10 deer)"

prisma siren
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makes sense

strong thorn
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So GO whitetail deer is like a lvl 5 diamond?

heady lintel
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No, it's like level 10 fabled. LOL

How smart are they compared to Diamond? Who knows, but they are.

strong thorn
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Not sure diamonds are really sharper, a bit yeah but you can get them as close as you need them

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Any given specie

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I'll accept it for now but I'll run my own tests when I got one on my map

full cave
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No, it's like level 10 fabled. LOL

How smart are they compared to Diamond? Who knows, but they are.
They are compared to diamonds

sudden garden
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How hard would it be to make really smart AI animals?

strong thorn
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Really hard but maybe not smart as much as realistic, in CotW an animal can "see" you even if his back is turned , the wind is going your way and you are not making noise

sudden garden
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Yea realistic

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Make the game (both meanings of the term) feel alive

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Most herbivores have godly peripheral vision

strong thorn
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True

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And predators have mostly enhanced senses

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When I get a GO on my map I'll make tests and put them on youtube

pliant oak
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i think they try and keep the balance to a enjoyable rate. classic i think the animals are slightly more keaner on their sense rate. big whitetail in classic 200m out looking straight at you like 👀

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reminds me of a story by abslayer. in real life after a big whitetail for years knows exactly where he goes how he approaches the field same spot all the time. in his view where the whitetail stops is a little tree. just marring the nice shot on the whitetail when he stops there. so one day he nips the offending branch off so next time the whitetail goes back he can nail him....the whitetail never came back again..😁

strong thorn
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So, just for the record a lvl 4 diamond is dumber than a lvl 5 diamond?

heady lintel
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As long as the animals senses are tied to the level and not the medal, yes. Only a dev could answer that with 100% certainty though.

tribal pawn
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Idk seems very random depends the species

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Like a bighorn only maxes at lvl 5 but they by far are the most skittish, wary animal in the entire game

full cave
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All the animals have different senses but x species a 5 should spook easier than a 4

strong thorn
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I would love that devs answered things like this, I love the AI's of CotW and have made some experiments but I don't think I could have a diamond amd a GO on a single map

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I don't have that kind of power for restrain

strong thorn
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Okay today I hunted side by side a diamond lvl 3 musk deer and a lvl 5 reindeer and I got up to 12 meters from the musk and like 50 from the reindeer

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So everything that you guys told me appears to be true so I apologize

warm spade
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i have a hard time getting high levels to spawn anymore lol

full cave
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Just kill all the males bro

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That's all you really can do

warm spade
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i killed all the male level 7 red deer and such and now i have a ton of 5's lol

full cave
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Unfortunate

warm spade
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killed all the level 7 8 and 9 lions and now i have 6's lol

full cave
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Doubly unfortunate

warm spade
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i am keeping at it... not discouraged lol just amused

full cave
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Maybe your next diamond will be a rare too

warm spade
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i got a level 7 albino water buffalo

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i have a diamond cinammon teal and goose lol those are my two diamonds

strong thorn
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KILL ALL THE MALES

warm spade
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this somehow became a feminist rally lmao

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but i will proceed

strong thorn
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That is the best way

ocean tulip
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I remember the same level 9 Red deer kept spawning at a lake 3 times.

pliant oak
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has anyone any proof that fast forwarding 4 days works ? after slaughtering males. doing the grind myself noticed on one group with females that no males are respawning with them

ocean orchid
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Sometimes that happened to me as well. Sometimes shooting one of the does will cause the males to respawn again, sometimes there just wont be any. I don't really know how that works. Also I noticed males of some herds respawn faster than of other. But for me waiting 6 days respawned pretty much all my males.

pliant oak
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when you waiting for 6 days are you going 6 times round the clock or...1 day let it start then doing that six times ?

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im trying to dial it in so we know what works what doesnt 😁

ocean orchid
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I just went 6 times round the clock.

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I sometimes had the feeling reloading the map helped too. Like just travelling to another map and back, but that might just be my superstition haha

pliant oak
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yeah just trying to work out if its even worth doing 4 or 6days

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or if it even has any effect

ocean orchid
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well I felt like it did help. But saying that I didn't always do it. And sometimes after waiting only one day bucks had also respawned. So can't really say for sure. But as I said, I felt like different bucks toock different amounts of time to respawn.

pliant oak
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yeah its hard trying to work out what works and what is just hearsay

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think its about 1 in 1600 chance of one spawning isnt it ? sure someone posted something like that

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realistically even if grinding you gunna kill 50 - 100 whitetails a day if hunting all day

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50 is more likely than one hundred

pliant oak
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while doing this grinding im coming to the conclusion that fast forwarding time might be pointless

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which in a way i dont think is right. as time should effect hunting pressure. animals would over time come back to a area

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also noticing some whitetails are not respawning.

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so the 50 -100 a day grinding would become less and less the more you do it

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so to kill 1600 if it is 1 in 1600 chance could take months

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hunting all day every day

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right lets see when gos came out

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12 weeks ago 😁

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so based on flinter bagging about 1600 before getting one thats if he started day one of release 200 whitetail per week ever week until he got one it was basically 8 weeks after release

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@fallow owl did you start day one of release on grinding for whitetail GO ? trying to work out how many are needed per day to get one 😁

neon cedar
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wouldn't it still be random to have a GO to spawn within those 1600?

strong thorn
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AotA says that if you kill most of your males is more likely for them to spawn in less time

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Its just luck I guess

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AotA says that if you kill most of your males is more likely for them to spawn in less time
That has worked for me so far

fossil spear
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There's always the chance of never seeing one

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It does all come down to the magic of rngesus

pliant oak
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yeah should be a chance but there will be a percentage number at min that the system says hey lets spawn a go 😁

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so if you kill the amount needed you should 100 percent get one spawn

ocean orchid
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I killed about 2500-3000 before I got my GO

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probably closer to 2500

pliant oak
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you killed 2500 when did you get the GO

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also time you were spending per day basically im trying to put together a proper go hunting guide with actually factual data that works

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there is a lot of hearsay we need to dial in whats true what isnt

strong thorn
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I'm counting my kills on paper and my hours in some what accurate way too

wise crane
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There Is a guy who needed only 600 kills

full cave
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I got pretty lucky and killed my GO on my third grind

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I probably only killed 200-300 whitetail bucks

finite jungle
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How long does one grind take?

full cave
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I took about 4-5 hours per grind

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But my reserve doesn’t have that many bucks which was kinda the funny part

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My first grind I shot a 260s buck in calburn then came back to that same spot on third grind and he respawned as GO

wise crane
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Damn

full cave
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And I think I killed it on May 1st

fallow owl
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@pliant oak yeah, tho i really didnt narrow down my spots for at least a week. For the other question you had, I was cycling 6 days, but I stopped doing that. My runs went like this: Start at 12:30 - shoot all bucks by fast traveling to all the different tents - then go to a lodge, change the time to about 12:15 - exit to desktop - open game again - and I would walk to my first spot, which took around 5 mins, and that got me to about 12:30 in game, and usually that was enough time for the deer to be in their zones

full cave
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Hi flinter🙂

fallow owl
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Hey

full cave
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You’re GO kill video is my favorite video

fallow owl
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Thanks haha 🙂 I have to go back and watch it every now and then still. It was such a cool moment. I just realized what ur pfp was lol xD nice

full cave
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Hehe 🤣

ocean orchid
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@pliant oak yeah, tho i really didnt narrow down my spots for at least a week. For the other question you had, I was cycling 6 days, but I stopped doing that. My runs went like this: Start at 12:30 - shoot all bucks by fast traveling to all the different tents - then go to a lodge, change the time to about 12:15 - exit to desktop - open game again - and I would walk to my first spot, which took around 5 mins, and that got me to about 12:30 in game, and usually that was enough time for the deer to be in their zones
@fallow owl Thats actually pretty close to how I did it too. I cycled the six days occasionally when I felt like I disn't get enough bucks. It always did feel like they respawned after that, but as I said maybe it just feels that way. But yeah. Also started all my hunts at about 12:30, proceeded pretty much the same way Flinter did. I sometimes restarted the game but I have the feeling that just changing the reserve away and back to Layton had pretty much the same effect. As for time invested I am not really sure. I had some 2 hour grinds but also some like 5 to 6 hour sessions and a few even longer.

fallow owl
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I believe you’re right about changing maps actually

vast geyser
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When you guys get your respawns, are you getting bucks on most whitetail zones? I'm ~150 bucks in, and it seems like no matter what I do, whether it be cycle 6 days, switch reserves, shoot other species, relaunch the game, etc, I'm only getting buck respawns in 3-4 spots at most at a time. It's really putting a damper on it for me when I can't find anything to do that will consistently get me even half of my respawns at once

full cave
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Yea it just seems to be the lottery style system. Of odds are 1 in 3000 you play 3k times eventually you'll win. Or you could be 9ne of the lucky few who play the lottery for just the second time you could win.

pliant oak
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cycling time has no effect

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also thanks flinter @fallow owl for your input same @ocean orchid

tribal pawn
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100-200+ whitetail kills a day is also very doable lol

pliant oak
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you think it is until you do it

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also the delay of them respawning

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also finding them

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time doesnt effect respawn either

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so cycling 4 -6 or whatever days doesnt make them respawn

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so your first few days you may hammer them maybe get 100

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then show your following days

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think logically

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100 for eg is the max when they dead you have to wait for them to respawn

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so you cant shoot 100 again

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if you understand what i mean

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100 isnt the max but im using a number to respresent it

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so basically the amount you can shoot daily drops off the more you do it

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because you waiting for respawn

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so simply put the numbers will go down and down each day you grind 100 - 80 - 60 for eg until respawn occurs but if you always shooting them how does it go back up to 100 ?

tribal pawn
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I literally have already done it tho. I was shooting 150-250 each day...

pliant oak
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just males ?

tribal pawn
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98% were males

pliant oak
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with no drop off ?

tribal pawn
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What drop off?

pliant oak
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respawning delay

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so say you shoot 150 today

tribal pawn
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There is no respawning delay if you shoot enough males

pliant oak
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the next day you have to wait for those bucks to be back

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which isnt effected by time

tribal pawn
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No. They will already be respawned in if you kill enough of them without changing time or leaving game

vast geyser
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About how many were you set up on to not get a respawn delay? How many bucks per run?

pliant oak
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this is what we need to find out and how the balance is achieved

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as 150 bucks would probably be all of em in every place

tribal pawn
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Depends but usually 30-40 bucks per run

pliant oak
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so most of the zones would be screwed

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so you shooting 2 males roughly a spot

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and not changing time

tribal pawn
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Some zones have 1 male some have half a dozen average is usually 3-4

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Atleast on my map all maps are different

vast geyser
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I'm set up on 10 zones with 32 total bucks. I usually get 8-10 bucks per day. If there is a number that you can harvest per day that prevents respawn delay, I may hit it soon. I'll pay close attention to it because that would be crazy helpful info

tribal pawn
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I'll also try to see what the exact number is when I grind again after they fix the GOs

strong thorn
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How many zones should I have?

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Please don't say 20, i have like 7

tribal pawn
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Depends ik after my grinding I had nearly 40 different drink zones with about 5 feed zones I hit up regularly but usually you dont have that many untill you shoot alot of them and they start respawning to other areas

strong thorn
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Okay so dang it

vast geyser
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I would bet there are at least 3-5 more hidden somewhere for you. Unless all 7 of those herds are the massive ones with 5+ bucks

tribal pawn
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Guarantee theres even more

vast geyser
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@tribal pawn So you just shoot, rest to the next day, repeat? No closing games, shooting other species, switching maps, etc?

tribal pawn
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Shoot untill ik every buck on my run is dead or atleast 90% of them with resetting back to drink time whenever I run out of that time

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Nothing besides shooting whitetail never leave the map untill I was done for the day usually

vast geyser
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Appreciate the info, it makes me think I actually have a chance. I'm tracking every buck I shoot at each spot in an excel file hoping it would help and so far it really hasn't. Only interesting thing is my one big herd with 7 bucks in it, hasn't produced a single buck over 83 kg in almost 50 harvests from it

tribal pawn
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Dang. Well tell me if ya have any luck I wont be trying again untill ik they are fixed for sure atleast 2 racks are spawning now atleast so better chance than last time

vast geyser
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I must have missed something, what's wrong with them?

tribal pawn
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So theres supposed to be 6 different GO racks spawning but before the last update only one was spawning and the others were just over 100kg lvl 3 diamonds

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Now there still are over weight bucks after the last update but there has been atleast 2 of the racks killed now but still confused on those lvl 3 100kg+ bucks

vast geyser
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Ahhhh I had seen a few people post over 100 diamonds, but didn't realize those were supposed to be GOs.

tribal pawn
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Ye

strong thorn
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I know there must be like 15 more zones next to the river but its hard to put a stand in those zones

full cave
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Use tripods dragon. Stands are unfortunately pretty useless in the game. Either theres no good trees around or IF there is the " beaver" will take ur stand down almost all of the time. Ive got a pile of tree stands that just sit in my inventory.

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Yep what @tribal pawn said. I had been an extreme pest about the GO and got confirmation from somebody at EW that if you had the last update that all issues with GO were fixed. Thats not the case at all. Ive shot WT over max weight after the update. There's issues that EW doesnt even know about I'm guessing. I'm not a game designer/developer,whatever you want to call it. But my best guess is theres something wrong with the programs they use to test the product. If they test it and they say its all good but when released the players find all the flaws,thats the only explanation. Wished they listened to the Ayers more cause after all we put in the hours using their product. One example we players kept telling them over and over Elk and BT were broken and they kept saying we were wrong,and in the end,what do ya know they were broken.

strong thorn
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Use tripods dragon. Stands are unfortunately pretty useless in the game. Either theres no good trees around or IF there is the " beaver" will take ur stand down almost all of the time. Ive got a pile of tree stands that just sit in my inventory.
@full cave I use them but on the edge of the map is hard either way

vast geyser
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Has anyone else had something like this happen? My GO hunting was going as normal, harvesting 10-15 per run. Then suddenly it just flipped off. My last 6 days have combined for 8 bucks, with 5 of those coming at the same spot on the same day and 3 straight days with no bucks. I didn't change anything but have since tried waiting multiple days, hunting other areas to see if they moved, shooting does (getting doe respawns fine..), hunting a different map, and letting myself afk in the map for 9 hours. I'm dumbfounded at this point, any buck seems as rare as the GO currently. Is this normal, or is my population screwed?

strong thorn
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Change things, herds move

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You should look for the new herds

pliant oak
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they will probably just be in a different location dont expect them to return to where you shot them. also swapping time day or days makes no difference to respawns

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i know what you talking about im doing it myself at the moment. i have a kinda idea whats happening but im just trying to nail the processes before saying if its correct or not

vast geyser
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Pretty annoying if I have to change my whole setup after only ~200 bucks. Weird that the does would respawn in the same place and not bucks, but I'm going to spend a few in game days looking around now I guess. Also throws off my spreadsheet of what I shot where if they did. But I know Flinter had his herds move so obviously it can happen

vast geyser
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I just did 3 in game drink times searching - zero new zones, and I'm now at 1 buck spawned in my 13 normally hunted zones in the last 4 days. At this point all I can think to do is hunt other times/species and see what happens, because I've tried every trick I've heard of and I can't get a buck to respawn. Just when you think you have things figured out a bit...

full cave
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Yep. Thats the way it goes @vast geyser. Of you I my have 13 drink zones on gour map Id continue searching every inch of water on your map. I know all maps are different but you should have a lot more undiscovered zones. Ive got at least 30 on my map and k ow of others who have close to or 40 drink zones. And sometimes the bucks are at a zone but they maybe back in the brush where you can't actually see them. I have that happen all the time.

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If you only *

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Oh and another thing,sometimes a herd maybe consistently showing up at day 1230 but other times they may not show up until say maybe 1330. Have had a herd that was supposed to be at their zone aroumd 1200 but didnt show up until close to 1400. So different times also afect the herds too

pliant oak
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times are very important and to experiment

pliant oak
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hmmm isnt the max weight for whitetail 100kg

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well i nailed a 105kg diamond

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yet it had a normal rack

strong thorn
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Ye they're broken

wise crane
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Ye, that is a broken GO

strong thorn
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I think its good they arent as common but diamonds shouldn't go up to 105

neon cedar
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it's cause 2.0 needs to be tweaked

full cave
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2.0 should of never happened tbh

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I miss the 0-1000 score

restive briar
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I'm in agreement. ^ Not a fan of all the numbers and decimals (fine for truscore). Makes it hard to remember what's what.

full cave
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Indeed

neon cedar
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They could've just taken the quick kill bonus out, and add in the vital organ requirement, and best scoring system

full cave
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Yep. I gave up wasting time on the GO chase until they fix it. But will take several months till that happens.

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Whats funnier still is you guys are playing the "updated GO patch" and its still broken.

neon cedar
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2.0 has been needed-to-tweak since day 01

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of it being released

full cave
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Just meaning they insist the last patch fixed the issues but they don't realize whatever it is they "fixed" had no affect. Thats the funny part. They dont actually know what the problems are with the game until we complain enough. In the meantime they say they double/triple checked everything and makes us feel like we're imagining thin gs. Lol

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Would say that you should post that in bug reports @pliant oak if you havent already. Probably wont help but proves that there's still issue with GO

full cave
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@pliant oak I'm certain that whitetail are having issues with what you posted. They mentioned a while back they had to change something with the old great ones. That being said an old great one on your map that wasn't shot before the hotfix was to be an overweight level 3 buck. I've reset my pop after the hotfix took action. Still ended up getting an overweight level 3 buck. So the issue still occurs. Now that I think of it. The great ones have multiple racks (or that was the plan) however I've only seen 2 unique racks posted since they were released.

restive briar
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Many of us have mentioned issues with whitetails since the GOs were added. My entire herd management system essentially went down the drain because of it.

wise crane
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Hopefully we get a real fix the next update

restive briar
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Doubt it. I reckon a lot of these "issues" are planned features to make hunting more difficult.

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I also believe there's been a hard limit on the number of diamonds, golds, silvers, etc on a map. Also a recent change imo. I spent months grinding my whitetail herds (before GOs) so that most of my bucks were around the 220-230+ range. When the update finally dropped though I noticed the new respawns were essentially going back down to low level 1s.

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So there's def been tweaking done on their side of things.

pliant oak
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just have to wait and see whats what

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just hoping that wasnt my GO or that could be another few thousand before i get another chance

tacit latch
sage sparrow
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Harvest history?

tacit latch
plain raptor
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That rack is beautiful

tacit latch
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Thanks!

violet schooner
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Why would anyone lie about getting the Great One lol
@tacit latch you be surprised the stinginess of some people

fossil spear
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there have been a TON of hacked and fake GO's in this chat. some people are just suss now

sage sparrow
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Yeah people are liars sometimes, Congratulations tho dude!

strong thorn
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@tacit latch Tell me the story man please

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Congrats

plain raptor
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People want their 5 minutes of fame so badly that they would lie about a game deer just to get it

strong thorn
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They do

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Also people who want to troll experienced people into thinking they got a GO

pliant oak
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nice what did he spawn off ?

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can you remember ?

full cave
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Sweet!! Congrats

tacit latch
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@pliant oak I actually got a diamond earlier in the day there while running drink zones

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@full cave thanks man

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@strong thorn I see, that's terrible

strong thorn
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Tell us the hunt story please feelsgoodman

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So you had a diamond and a great one in the same map?

full cave
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I’m a little late but congrats on your Great One @tacit latch

tacit latch
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Yeah I was running drink zones and got a diamond at same zone earlier in the day.

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@full cave thanks

full cave
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What area of the map?

wise crane
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Dont give me hope

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Congrats

tacit latch
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He was at border of willipeg and high lake right above that ground blind along the river.

full cave
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Cool

strong thorn
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Dude tell the story as a hunter would, "it was a foggy morning in Layton" and all that

sharp junco
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It prolly was a annoying repeat of the checking the same spots over and over than he spotted it either at some drink zone or walking around then he either just shot it from the drink zone or followed it until he had a good shot then he shot it

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Reee

strong thorn
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That's zero fun for a once in a lifetime deer

tacit latch
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@sharp junco actually your pretty spot on lol

strong thorn
sharp junco
full cave
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The overweight buck I had respawned from a diamond, probably should have been a great one and now it's back to square 1 on the grind.

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The odds of a diamond respawning after another diamond is pretty unlikely. Thats what leads me to believe it should have been a GO.

strong thorn
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Yeah because GO spawn after diamonds more often than not

ocean tulip
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Man I’d love to get a GO but cotw is a game that I just cannot grind

wise crane
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Yeah, my first overweight also respawned from a 100 kg diamond

pliant oak
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just gotta keep at it.

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smashed a load more just hoping i get a good respawn

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not done bad this week with the grind ended up with two diamond whitetail and a big albino whitetail male

restive briar
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I know someone killed a lower level male and had the GO spawn from that or so he thought anyways. They're in the Discord somewhere. If that is the case then GOs work more like a rare fur type, imo, then hoping that a diamond WT respawns as a GO.

forest marlin
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Boi, when I posted my pic of my Great one, everyone been hatting on me calling "its fake"
But
When dis other dude comes and posted his pic everyone all silent

restive briar
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Because he showed his entire harvest screen and harvest history. While you shared a cropped image of a GO.

ocean orchid
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My GO respawned from a random low tier buck too

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And I had one over 100kg diamond as well that also spawned from a random low tier buck.

full cave
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My GO respawned from a 260s buck

restive briar
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Seems to me that GOs are indeed classified as a fur type if any ol' buck can allow a GO to spawn in or maybe there's another factor to them involved that we aren't paying attention to.

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Hell, maybe everything is considered random at this point. I do believe there's a hard limit on the number of trophy scoring animals allowed on a map at any given time.

forest marlin
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Mine doesnt show on my harvest anymore, but heres they weigght ect

strong thorn
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Hey people with GOs who has the biggest one?

wise crane
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@forest marlin thats flinters GO, what a liar

strong thorn
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Yeah show the shot

violet schooner
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@wise crane almost everybody knows already from his first time he lied 🤥 because he never showed the shit and it matched flinters

full cave
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same tracking distance same weight same score same horns

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lol

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i guess the technical term is antlers but still

violet schooner
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But still he’s a lier

strong thorn
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And now he won't even defend his case

neon cedar
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didn't everyone call him out when he posted the same picture

full cave
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yes

neon cedar
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lmao

full cave
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Not really much to defend

violet schooner
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Very yes

full cave
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If he had any pride he wouldn't be lying

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So it's not like he can defend that

strong thorn
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If you gonna lie at least you can rant to make it fun for others

neon cedar
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ikr

violet schooner
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Let me guess he forgot to tax it to cuz he was to excited

full cave
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I did that with a coyote once :(

strong thorn
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Things like that could never happen ever

full cave
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Wasn't a diamond though

strong thorn
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On a GO

full cave
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If I forgot to taxi a GO I would cry tbh

strong thorn
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Can happen on diamonds tho

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But you could go to your lodge right away

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If you hunt a GO and don't inmediately go to your lodge to check it out, did you really hunted a GO?

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Its literally the mayor trophy on the game at the moment

violet schooner
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Idk did that guy really drive up on the four wheeler and take your diamond

strong thorn
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Wut?

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My diamond?

violet schooner
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This guy posted a clip in the Xbox cotw club where this one dude drove up on a four wheeler and took a dudes diamond springbok,

strong thorn
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Damn sad lol

violet schooner
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Honestly that makes me more mad than hackers

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Because, really you’ve gotta take off from another dudes harvest because your to lazy to find your own

strong thorn
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Like how desesperate you have to be to steal a dead diamond

violet schooner
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And it was back with consecutive so the dumby messed up the diamond as well

pliant oak
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i once forgot to taxi a albino blacktail nice buck so it can happen but on a go it would crack me 😂

violet schooner
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Ron would pull a Tyler one

pliant oak
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i do think its not just big bucks it respawns off either

full cave
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So far what’s the biggest GO y’all have seen posted

violet schooner
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750

full cave
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650 or 750?

violet schooner
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Jk

full cave
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Oh 😂

violet schooner
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More 647 ish I think

full cave
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Oh well mine might have the chance of being the biggest it scores at 658 😲

violet schooner
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😋

full cave
tribal pawn
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@forest marlin just leave please, liars like you are not liked

full cave
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Hey AOTA what’s the biggest GO you’ve seen posted so far?

restive briar
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Mine was 642.4 so you def got me beat.

tribal pawn
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I haven't payed attention to scores on them so idk

full cave
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From all the "hacked" ones posted it seems this original GO is the largest of them all.

strong thorn
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Ugh its the ugliest

heady lintel
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@forest marlin Post the full photo uncropped.

full cave
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@full cave from every GO I’ve seen, hacked and not hacked, that’s the biggest variant. There might actually be a 700+ score but I don’t think so

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Cool

cold marten
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700+ GOs could exist, but knowing the rarity of them already it's unlikely anyone will find one any time soon

full cave
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That would be crazy to see

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Can’t imagine how big that would look 👀

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My favorite variation is like the 400

merry sand
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any trick for the fabled ones? shot so many whitetails and like 8 diamonds but cant find him

pliant oak
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keep at it

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right back to hunting whitetails...😂

strong thorn
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Shoot 13 diamonds

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That is the magic number, after that a light comes out of the cavern of layton and a monster buck emerges on the search for blood

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And after killing a GO from each specie Bigfoot is summoned

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Jk

full cave
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@forest marlin what @tribal pawn said. Please don't try to claim other people's kills as your own. It's not a good impression you want others to think of you. 🙂

plain raptor
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Smh

woeful lark
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bruh

strong thorn
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@forest marlin literally got called out by the mods

violet schooner
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People Lying like this makes them look pathetic

hollow mountain
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It’s weird how he only got a 200 session score too. I’m surprised they didn’t make the GO a 1000+

strong thorn
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Session score is worthless

violet schooner
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^

vast geyser
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Over 300 bucks in and I hadn't seen a diamond yet. Then suddenly I get 2 level 3 respawns in the same herd at the same time, and they are both trolls. Gotta love it!

strong thorn
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Troll lvl 3? Lets see that

vast geyser
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I'll SS the second when I shoot it tonight. They were 308 & 307 for high end of estimate which is just below what it takes for diamond. Didn't shoot the second yet because I wanted to make sure I got a good shot on it

vast geyser
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Well I must have either been blind or something went funky, because I went back for the 307 and he was then a 318 that make diamond by quit a bit. Probably user error. Still neat see a diamond and a troll level 3 in the same herd from respawns

wise crane
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They change their TR when you restart

ember nest
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I forgot can u hunt that on console

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The great one

vast geyser
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Huh, not sure how I didn't know they changed on a restart. Wouldn't have taken that first troll then. Good to know thanks

merry sand
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where can i see all the hacked great one racks?

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heard there are 6 different racks

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where can i find those pictures?

full cave
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Id k. They were posted but people complained about the GO being "spoiled" so they were taken down. I don't understand why cause SRP is "spoiled" for all of us who have to wait another 2 weeks to play.

heady lintel
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They were taken down because they were hacked into the game.

full cave
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Who knows what's "legit" anymore. So many people use hacks/mods/cheats,whatever u want to call it and post their stuff.

upbeat agate
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agreed

full cave
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Right! And their pics stay up. Id k just sayin.

restive briar
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They should've been spoilered instead, imo. So only those who click the spoiler can actually see the pics. It's user discretion and their own fault.

full cave
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Totally agree. Would say the same about anybody posting SRP pics too. Just being an almost 2 month difference between release of SRP to pc and console players

heady lintel
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They were removed per the rules.

" k- Share Images of, or discuss cheats, hacks or Mods"

strong thorn
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what where?

full cave
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Agree with you pic. Not debating that. Same should go for the pics of animals taken with hacks/mods/cheats.

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Not hard to tell out fake stuff

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Because usually there taken with a 243 soft point in a area with no trees

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There’s really not a lot of hackers, just 1 main one who posts shiiii like mad

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2 actually

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That’s were 99% of hacked pics come from

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400 deer in 5 hours? Doesn’t seem to hard...

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Lol actually

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Maybe a lil hard

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But in 6 or 7 hours that’s easy

astral helm
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You'd need to be killing at least one a minute to do that

full cave
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I redact that statement

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But 6 or 7? Not impossible

astral helm
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You'd still need to kill about one a minute to do that in 6-7 hours lol

full cave
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But yeah anyone with 2 hours in the game can figure out when there’s a hacker

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Exactly @full cave.

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The point being people do that but their pics can remain but other hackers are removed.

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And there was a person from DD33 server who’s pics got posted in here. They weren’t even posted by him, just dd fan boys. They said they were just sharing, not even saying it was theirs and also said it was probably hacked

heady lintel
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If it's a clear case of hacking, it's removed.

full cave
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But not talking about that 🤫

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That means the animals have to be at each and every spot every time to achieve that. Thats impossible being that they do move and arent always at the same place at the exact same time every time. Theyre just cheating.

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Everyone got pissed cause the racks that weren’t spawning we’re spoiled haha

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GO racks

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They might be spawning now

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Yep!! They may or may not be. We've seen 2 of the variations spawned. Who knows until we see them all spawn if all the variations are working properly.

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Exactly @astral helm. Killing 1 deer per minute every minute is impossible

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I’ve seen like 6 GO variations

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Well without cheating g that is. Lol

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Yes we've all seen the 6 variations. But only 2 that are known to be taken without hacks.

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That have actually spawned without cheats.

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@full cave two have been confirmed to spawn in legit, the other 4 who knows what's up with them.

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There not “fake”

strong thorn
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In a spot you can kill 5 in 1 minute if you have a weapon with little recoil

full cave
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yeah but to continue that for an hour is impossible

strong thorn
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5 in 1 min then 4 minutes later another 5

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Etc.

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I mean, close to impossble

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Probably cheating

wise crane
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And being totally accurate

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Impossible without cheating

full cave
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Exactly @wise crane

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And @full cave

strong thorn
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Ok got it

heady lintel
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@full cave Ok but..... Where did someone post "how they take 350-400 deer in less than 5 hours and posting their pics" ? That was your argument and I don't see anyone saying they killed 350-400 deer in less than 5 hours and posting photos of it.

full cave
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Yo the great one caribou can just have a red nose lmao

heady lintel
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I wouldn't mind seeing a few different ideas used on the same species. Like adding a half rack to WT GO's for example.

strong thorn
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Or maybe just one very very very long tine

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Like this

tribal pawn
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Should just be a special rack not necessarily a GO imo

hollow mountain
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Should just be a special rack not necessarily a GO imo
@tribal pawn A special lvl1 rack maybe?

tribal pawn
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Ye

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Tho its usually old bucks that are like that so maybe lvl 2

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Since lvl is based off weight they say

hollow mountain
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Really? Here where I live our spikes are the young bucks. But then again I haven’t seen very many spikes so

tribal pawn
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No I mean those giant spikes

strong thorn
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They get pretty big since their racks can pierce the other deers heads

tribal pawn
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4-10" spikes are usually young bois but those big ones in that picture are definitely old

hollow mountain
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Ohhhhh yea yea, my bad, I forgot we were talking about the big ole ones😂

strong thorn
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Yeah like real 2 pointers

tribal pawn
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I have a 2 point muley in my room that has as big of a frame as my 160"

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Big 2 and 3 points be epic

strong thorn
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Yeah but nobody really wants to hunt one

tribal pawn
hollow mountain
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I’d 100% go for a 2 point mulie like that

full cave
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Are there any other Great ones besides the whitetail?

plain raptor
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No

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Just whitetail currently

full cave
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I though tk said they’d add them secretly

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What if there is more

plain raptor
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I haven’t seen any other big ones other than whitetail so pretty sure it’s just them

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But if there were more that’d be cool

analog flower
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No new ones have been added yet. They will put in patch notes "Great one added" when they put new one.

strong thorn
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^

pliant oak
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or will they....i wouldnt say anything and just add them 😁

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just say a new great one is out

merry sand
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3 new whitetale drink zones on my hunt for the great one, maybe interessting for you that there are so many on the side lake

full cave
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You got some perk points and skill points to spend ^^^

merry sand
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@full cave yeah i know ^^

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maybe there are even more on the sides, had to stop playing for now

vast geyser
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Finally got my first 100 kg on the grind (forgot to tax it of course, realized about 10 harvests too late). Interesting thing was it was a spot that had never once had multiple bucks at it, and the next day there were 3 bucks there. Probably just a coincidence, but still noteworthy

twin cedar
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How do u forget to tax a 100kg withetail

strong thorn
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Indeed

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Everytime I hunt a diamond I take a break

vast geyser
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I was in a groove. Shoot, harvest, enter data into my spreadsheet, accept, and repeat. At least I probably won't make that mistake again haha

full cave
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enters data dang max weight WT just like all the other wt I’ve shot nothing out of the ordinary here

pliant oak
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i dont think it matters what whitetail you shoot

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its just the luck of the respawn

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about 500 whitetail in now

full cave
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I heard that the animals TRY to respawn in the same weight class soooo

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I think shoot all the big guys first, but I’d do that either way

median spire
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So, if I open my map to multiplayer in order to expedite the genocide of whitetails and spawns, will the fabled one spawn in multiplayer? If someone shoots it while on my map, do I miss my chance?

wise crane
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Yes, don't risk

vast geyser
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Yeah and also they will no doubt destroy zones. And you won't even know if your map spawned one and someone else got it

merry sand
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just got my max weight, guess the next one will be finally the great one

terse rain
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Ha das funny

merry sand
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why? i shot already like 10 diamonds of my own map since great one added and thats first max weight, so next should be great one

vast geyser
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Some people have said they got a GO after a max weight. But I promise it's not guarantee. My last 100 kg came back at a whopping 81 kg, which is better than any of the next 11 that have respawned there

terse rain
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Oh, you just sounded like it’s a guarantee and it’s going to happen. Just because you get a max weight doesn’t mean anything

wise crane
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Most will respawn a lot smaller

vast geyser
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I am over 500 in and track each buck at each zone. There is slight correlation of respawns being similar to the prior buck, but it is very slight.

pliant oak
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im about 700 whitetails in now

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just gonna shoot 85 -100 kg now see how it goes it deffo gets harder the more you grind

vast geyser
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It most certainly does. Spots get hot and cold, and after awhile they seem to be much more likely to be cold. I noticed a big drop off at about 250, and there have been points where I wanted to just reset my population and start over

pliant oak
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well im on my 2nd week of soley hunting for the OG whitetail 😁

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currently on about 700 whitetail

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just got my 2nd diamond

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so yeah this weeks been tough

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fingers crossed we get a nice whitetail spawn off the diamond

neon cedar
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good luck man

main berry
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@pliant oak ive saw you mention you dont think fast forwarding days actually works. Care to explain?

pliant oak
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it would be too easy to get round

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kill animal just fast forward

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so i dont think it plays any part

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probably more than likely when you close or change reserve and back it probably checks your whitetails

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if less than whatever amount it puts one in

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thats a guess

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it may just check all the time

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who knows 😁

vast geyser
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I've tried the fast forward 6 days plenty of times too. Never noticed any difference than if I just went to the next day. Some zones get hot and you can shoot all the bucks, come back later the same day and they will be respawned. Others stop completely, some consistently every few days... Basically in over 600 bucks now I've learned very little 🤣

visual forge
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you dont go by "days" per say in cotw

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the purpose of the time is to obviously change it to time zones and for just making it night and day

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but thats all it functions for, doesn't change respawns or anything

pliant oak
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does anyone think there could be changes to make the Great Ones better ? if so what would you change

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reason im asking is im making a video on the whole aspects of hunting them

finite jungle
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Drop tines/more pronounced drop tines would be cool

full cave
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Longer tines would be nice too

pliant oak
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what about how you go after getting one ?

finite jungle
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Like not relying on respawns for one to come in?

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I’m not exactly sure how else they would do it without making it too easy

pliant oak
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yeah thats the tricky part

finite jungle
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I could see maybe they already spawn in but their senses are jacked up super high and they spawn in a difficult area for shot opportunities so it’s just a really difficult hunt

pliant oak
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basically was seeing if you could come up with a way that removed a lot of the luck aspect

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i myself prefer skill over luck

finite jungle
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It would be less grindy

full cave
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Kinda crappy pic but this be nice is to add more length to the g1s g2s and g3 tines get rid of some of the junky tines and add drop tines, make the crab claws bigger and add a little junk but not all over the antlers like there already is already is. By the way green stands for taller tines and red is to get rid of the junk

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All those junk tines do make it a bit much imo

finite jungle
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Maybe to remove at least some luck factor as to finding it, maybe have the game give you a little message when it spawns in and it gives you the region it’s at

full cave
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or

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scrap that varation

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and replace it with classics 330"+

supple tulip
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Classic's nontypicals are a fuckin' mess

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Like damn

finite jungle
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Like you’re just chillin then you see Great One has spawned. Location: Layton Lows

full cave
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That’d be interesting

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Would be crazy to get that notification

supple tulip
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Yeah

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Or something like "Hikers have spotted a fabled whitetail on Aisle 4"

finite jungle
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Imagine the adrenaline as you freak out when it comes in

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And then you go to that area and search for it for several hours

full cave
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Classics look crazy lmao

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That variation just looks like a typical with a shit fuck ton of points

finite jungle
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I agree the racks could be a bit more non typical in appearance

full cave
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Classic you take one look at it and your like yep... thats a non typical.

supple tulip
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Well that isn't the only rack

finite jungle
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Classic this, classic that

full cave
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bruh

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ngl the other racks are fire

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Here’s something random. I wonder why cotw don’t count brow tines as a point for whitetail

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They dont...? odd.

lime oxide
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I mean, it ain’t it the realm of fantasy...

supple tulip
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Those are farmed deer

lime oxide
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But doesn’t mean it impossible to grow such antlers

supple tulip
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Well in the wild it sorta does

sturdy minnow
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Yee most wild whitetail don’t have access to enough nutrients like the farm whitetail do, plus their genetics as well

full cave
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these are all “wild” bucks. They can get as big as farm deer.

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I dont know what you guys are talking about, they clearly do get as big and wacky as farm bucks

supple tulip
sturdy minnow
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Ya idk what you talkin about HV but whitetail that live in the wild can’t ever get as massive as a farm raised whitetail, they can definitely look pretty wacky but never as massive and as many points

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Pretty positive the record whitetail killed not behind a high fence had 47 points

supple tulip
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Oh yeah

sturdy minnow
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Geez jus wonderin how his reaction was when he put em down lol

finite jungle
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Farm deer really do be lookin like they have 🍄 on their heads

full cave
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you do realize that not every farm deer looks as odd as those right?

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I’m pretty sure people would rather the buck I posted over the mushroom lookin buck anyways lmao

supple tulip
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That isn't the point

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Objectively, wild deer simply have not been able to reach the sizes farm deer are able to be bred to

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That is the conversation that transpired

full cave
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I didn’t say it was, that’s just something I believe.

supple tulip
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Fair enough

full cave
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yes I know

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dawson7palmer is typing

finite jungle
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Well if you want to be like that

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some farm deer appear to be oddwhen they are fed certain diets. And of these occasional farm deer, a fewappear have have antlers in the shape of a mushroom

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however the mushroom deer is not representative of all cervids raised on a domestic farm

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Better?

full cave
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once again, I never said that it was lmao. But yes, that is much better

astral helm
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I think a lot of those farmed deer also have extremely high protein diets in order for them to convert energy into antler mass

I'm pretty sure that if you took wild bucks and fed them the same diet, they'd produce antlers comparative to the farm bred animals pretty quick once they started producing F1's and whatnot

full cave
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The free range natural bucks that are as big as farm deer are way more impressive. I agree with HV.

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yes

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thank you

strong thorn
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Farmed bois be gross

full cave
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There's a lot down in "corn country" not as many but thats what makes them impressive and an "achievement" so to speak. Anything killed thats kept behind a fence is weak.

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^

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You can put out protein and corn obviously for the free range bucks. It’s not like they have to be on their own

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I hate people who shoot farm raised bucks. It’s way too easy, and then they brag about the 20 point nontyp buck they killed with a rifle from 30 yards out in the first 5 minutes of “hunting.”

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Right. And the biggest thing is that these free range monsters are out there. There's way more of them out there that never are actually seen. Theyre so smart and thats how they get that big.

finite jungle
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^

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Farm buck hunting is wack

full cave
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I don’t think Eypick knows much about what he’s talking about

sturdy minnow
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Yo what’s up HV

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I was typin but I wasn’t gon say anythin since you said it’s your opinion

full cave
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If youre trapped behind a fence obviously you can find them and kill them. Theres many free range bucks that are out there that are just as big but if somebodys lucky they'll find their shed or the skeleton after its died of old age.

sturdy minnow
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Can’t dog on people’s opinions

full cave
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exactly

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that’s all Eypick really does

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I’m perfectly fine with deer being bred to maximise antler growth for velvet and stuff (long as it isn’t harming the deer) but shooting those things nah... that’s just shitty there’s no skill in that....

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I'm not dogging an opinion. I just live in whitetail country and know that there's many,many free range WT that are as big if not bigger than some of these farm deer.

sturdy minnow
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But from what I’ve read you say they look better yes “Wild” whitetail obviously look a lot more better to me than a farm raised but what I said is that the farm raised jus get a lot more massive in sheer mass and points

full cave
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True tdog

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The biggest whitetail in history probably would of been wild... we will never know though sadly

sturdy minnow
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Yee back in the ol days definitely sum big ol boys

full cave
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yes

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You got that right sol!! That's why im obsessed with WT in the game but more so in real life. They're so hard to find and one of the biggest "challenges" as far as big game gies in North America. I love em!

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as do I

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with the exception of farm deer

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😂😂😂

sturdy minnow
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Ehh whitetail are pretty easy down in south Texas

full cave
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the worst part is that people have to pay 15+ thousand dollars to walk outside and pop one in 5 minutes

sturdy minnow
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For real tho

full cave
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Then try to take on the challenge of chasing one of those monsters with a bow. No bigger challenge IMO

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We’ve been breeding them for like 150yr...? Though the big boys are fairly recent probably less than 20 generations

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Yea I have no respect for people who do that. Theyre not considered hunters in my eyes. Anybody can do that.

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ahem Keith Warren

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The animal has no chance

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well that’s because it stands there expecting you to hand feed it

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and then you shoot it and call it a “trophy of a lifetime*

sturdy minnow
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Oh I’ve been settin up me a challenge, I have this buck for the past 3 years now that is about 22in n up but only comes out at night but last year I had a camera were he came out in the mornins at this certain spot next to our lake so I’ve been settin out the pit him down this year

full cave
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Yep pretty much. Or it just goes to the feeder. Just lame

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Nice!! Good luck dawson!!

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^

sturdy minnow
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Much appreciated, once I get back up to my ranch I’ll shoot a pic of him

full cave
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nice

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And thats just it. The monsters usually only move at night. Lay in the thickest,nastiest cover no human would tred into during the day. Thats why few people ever see them. Theyre kind of like big foot 😂😂😂😂😂

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Exactly

finite jungle
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Honestly eventually I want to buy some gear for night hunting see if I can find any of the big ones coming around

full cave
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Eypick has no idea what he’s on about, there easily could be some monsters out there that are too smart to go out in the open During the day

finite jungle
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Wait what about eypick can I get a tl;dr?

full cave
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A what

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he’s saying that farm raised animals are way bigger than “Wild” ones.

finite jungle
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A summarization

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Or just what did he say

full cave
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Farm raised are bigger.. usually, they have more potential

finite jungle
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I mean depends on the location

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Some states have bigger deer than others

full cave
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here we go again

finite jungle
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So if you have a farm deer in a state with bigger deer, then it’s probably gonna be bigger than a wild deer in a different state with smaller deer

full cave
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they’re also ugly as hell

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I'm saying, there are more big farm raised deer, than big wild deer

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we don’t know for sure

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the big wild deer are smart as hell, and they don’t come out to feed during the day. They don’t make stupid decisions.

finite jungle
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Yes. Farm raised deer are made SPECIFICALLY to have large antlers. Wild deer have large antlers if they survive and grow. A farm deer doesn’t really need to survive as hard

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So they can technically be the same size but a farm deer is more likely to be bigger than wild, statistically

full cave
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yes

finite jungle
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Not to say that wild deer are small

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Some wild ones are monsters

full cave
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Yes we def dont know for sure. Were comparing apples to oranges. And yes OOFIE is right. I live in northern MN and theres some giants here but not nearly the numbers compared to even southern MN where theres tons of corn,soy beans and other crops they can fill their fat bellies with

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yes

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I’m gonna go now, someone tell me when Eypick starts up another pointless arguement

finite jungle
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But it’s like 99% of farm deer grow to be monsters
And the chances of a wild one becoming a monster before it dies in a fight with another buck or is hunted by a predator or dies of disease is like1 in a million

supple tulip
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Hmm?

full cave
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And nobodys taking into acxount that farm deer are fed steroids and hormones to make that happen.

supple tulip
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Why are you such an ass about me, HV?

full cave
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He likes u

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Obviously

supple tulip
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Lmao

full cave
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hmmm I wonder why

finite jungle
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So like what’s the problem with Eypick then? The farm deer are, logically, bigger than wild

supple tulip
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Because I disagree with him

full cave
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not anywhere close to that lmao

supple tulip
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Might be a misunderstanding

full cave
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No, not that we disagree

supple tulip
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As emotions can be misunderstood with typing

full cave
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we’ve had that happen before

supple tulip
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Aye

finite jungle
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Emotions can be very misunderstood with typing

supple tulip
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Lmao

full cave
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Oop

supple tulip
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It got deleted

heady lintel
finite jungle
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Yeah GOs

full cave
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Cotw gay

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👀

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^

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Id disagree that the chances of a free range deer becoming as big as a farm deer is 1 in a million. Again there tons of them out there that are never seen or found

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thanks to the devs

finite jungle
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I want a moose GO tbh it’d be neat

full cave
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ye

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a GO anything would be best

supple tulip
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Moose nontypicals are metal

full cave
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What is a GO

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Great One

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o

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Red deer GO would be interesting

supple tulip
finite jungle
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Yo why his face look like a turtle

full cave
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Basically the GO is like the real world chance of anybody seeing g a free range monster WT 😂😂😂

finite jungle
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First pic

full cave
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I saw one of those mounted today

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Rabbit GO

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was very cool

finite jungle
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Bear size rabbit

supple tulip
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Rabbit Great One would have Shope Papilloma virus tbh

finite jungle
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Still dies to the .22LR

full cave
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Fukin jackalope up in this bitch

supple tulip
full cave
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Ok now I’m gonna go cya everyone

supple tulip
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See ya

full cave
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Finally, shit..

finite jungle
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Adios

full cave
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Hahaha yes!!!! A rabbit GO should be a jackalope!! Agree with @full cave

finite jungle
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Save the cryptids for a Halloween event guyssssss

full cave
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Only classic is cool enuf to have events

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oh yeaaa

supple tulip
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That is essentially what shope papilloma virus does

finite jungle
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Wait if we’re talking about classic then we should talk about it in a non-COTW channel

supple tulip
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It turns it into a jackalope

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Which was originally just taxidermists being quirky

finite jungle
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Still funny to me

supple tulip
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It’s as close as we get

full cave
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Imagine creeping around and you look over and see a massive 8 point NONTYPICAL jackalope!!

finite jungle
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“Oh haha what if I put these antlers on a rabbit that’ll be so funny”

and imagine the horror when the taxidermist realizes that people believe in it

supple tulip
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Lmao

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Pretty much, Oofie

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The Germans did it as well

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It's just a mess of local small game with some antlers

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But a jackalope multimount would be pretty funny

strong thorn
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Thanks I hate it

supple tulip
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Oh you should see some of the other shit taxidermists make

wise crane
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with the recurve btw

full cave
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👏

clear current
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Thats sick congrats

wise crane
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Thanks

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I leaved the grind after getting diamonds over max weight but when smOke got his i realized It was possible to get one

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That Is around 3200 wt killed in almost 2 months with a break of 2 weeks

full cave
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Holy! Congratulations welcome too the GO gang

strong thorn
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@full cave you have one? I always forget who has one

full cave
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Yep

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658 score but with my 30-06

strong thorn
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I wish I could welcome people to the GO club

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Can I be the doorman?

full cave
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Sure 😉

ocean orchid
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@wise crane Awesome you finally got it. Well deserved. Congratulations. Glad to have reinspired you.

full cave
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Congrats @wise crane !!!

wise crane
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Thanks!

clear current
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Should i be killing every buck in a herd or should i leave the really low 1s ?

tribal pawn
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All bucks

wise crane
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All males must die, just be careful with the hunting pressure. Prob killing 3 per run is a good idea

clear current
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Ok thats what i been doing some herds have just been respawning with only females so i though i was doing something wrong

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Yeah i got tripods near all my zones

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I started 2 days ago and this is the best respawn ive had so far

wise crane
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Not bad

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With your luck maybe you get him before reaching 1000 lol

clear current
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Lol hopefully

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Doubt it tho

strong thorn
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No, peacock has to cooldown his luck

visual forge
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@wise crane congrats homie 👍🏻

sharp junco
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dont have the motivation to play enough to get enough cash to set up my map atm XD

violet schooner
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I have 3.6 mil I’m good until srp comes out

strong thorn
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I got 10 tripods and like 15 tents

violet schooner
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I have some and I could get even more

strong thorn
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Goose hunting or buffalo massacre am I right?

sharp junco
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im too broke to tax stuff XD

strong thorn
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Shoot everything

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Follow me for more tips

pliant oak
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what did the GO spawn off @wise crane

wise crane
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Not sure but prob he came from a big lvl 2 that i got near that zone.

pliant oak
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have you got the hunt history for the last few whitetails you shot before him ?

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interested to see if it was off a low class or diamond

wise crane
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Is full of other stuff now, still the buck that respawned the GO wouldn't appear in the history cuz i got the GO at the end of a run, like 50 bucks later.

feral silo
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Has anyone else noticed that the amount of bucks spawning decrease drastically after you’ve been grinding for a while? I used to average around 28-33 bucks per run when I first started, but now I average 15-20 after about 5000~ whitetail harvests... Really hope I find the big guy soon!

visual forge
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yeah

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layton used to be covered in white and black tails

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but i did a huge sweep

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n now i only got moose

feral silo
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Glad I’m not the only one. I thought about resetting my map, but it would be such a hazzle to find all the drink zones again 😅

visual forge
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i think i need to do that anyway

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no new animals are showin

full cave
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@feral silo Whenever It did that for me, I did a new sweep around the map fopr new zones. More times than not, the WT had found new drink zones to use instead

feral silo
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I just did a sweep along the east coast, actually! Found 3 new zones in an area I had never checked, but I'm not allowed to place more tents on my map, so I had to remove the tent from a zone that sometimes spawn bucks, but mostly not. I really wish you could place more tents so I could cover every single zone, but oh well!

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@full cave

hazy helm
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Decent gold piebald from great one grind

feral silo
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Nice one 👌

full cave
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That's a very decent size

lime oxide
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This is definitely going to be a GO moose, it screams fabled

full cave
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God, imagine that beast coming out of the woods.

visual forge
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id shit myself

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in game and irl

full cave
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That would be sweet. Its def time for a new GO. I just hope they make it so its an animal thats on multiple maps such as red deer as an example.

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Ive been grinding for a GO and I'm so sick of Layton. Lol same scenery over and over again. Burns the map out.

supple tulip