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Yeah yikes
Mule deer does need a little tlc when it gets truerac a
Here's what they're normally like
Like bison are very square
Plains bison have a distinct sorta sharp hump behind their rectangle head
And wisent hold their heads high without a hump and are practically rectangular
And they have pretty flat foreheads
The cape and water buffalo look perfect though
Whitetail deer need a remodel too
Just something about them feels off
The coloration too
Yeah
Like the white goes too far up
as i like to describe them sometimes
donald trump looking assholes
No offence ofc but there orange as hell lmao
They also dont even have whitetails?
Yeah i wish they could of nailed them that good
Like Cotw VS irl
Mr whitetail got the mumps
How can you say classic has proper whitetails, when the large ones look like they came out of fucking Chernobyl lol
No I mean the texture and model
The bodies are much better I do agree
All the cotw whitetails have a bit of snake in them. Their necks don't have bones lol
Better than a 25kg deer in sim 2
Like this is world-record size
How do u mount that
Classic big whitetail are pretty accurate its the non typical that are not
Though i like the twist they took as if they did the standard typical shape but Nontypical points most would look the same and only vary really between wide rack and high rack
@full cave and @supple tulip I think the mule deer needs to be remodelled because they are tiny. In real life mule deer are the same size if not larger than white tails, but in cotw white tails are twice as big as them. In my opinion they need to be larger in size.
And blacktail deer are just mule deer
Arenāt there regional differences regarding bt and md
Are there?
Making them have slightly different characteristics
And donāt wt share ancestry with axis fallow and roe
The last bt harvested In WI was around 2013
Here is a mule deer compared to a whitetail
And from what I researched said nothing about their being differences in sizing in different region
Here in saskatchewan, Canada our mule deer are considerably larger than the whitetail, and we have some of the largest body whitetail in the world. Our whitetails are big cuz of the cold so they put on more pounds. Thing is our whitetail hide in bushes a lot but our mule deer stand out in the open, hence out mule deer getting jacked as hell lol
Whenever I hear the word Saskatchewan I always hear Sasquatchland
So we agree that the mules need to be jacked up a bit.
Yes
Yes I suppose
Aight let's see what we got...
Remodel/retexture black bear
Remodel bison
Remodel and retexture whitetail
And buff up the mulies
Also I think we need an update with the brown bear because they just look to different from the grizzlies and they are the same species. Itās mainly their faces
The brown bears face looks like more of a black bears.
I like the grizzly bear tbh
The brown bear looks like a black bear
And the black bear looks like ass
Also need to give the black bears better ai cause I NEVER see them
@solid agate i think mule deer models should depend where theyre from. desert mulies have tiny bodies in comparison to ones that live in the cold or in the rockies.
Yea maybe
@worthy drum ever shot any hybrid
@violet schooner yeah theyre all over around me. i live just outside of the boreal forest, where the prairies end. The past 15-20 years has seen mule deer push themselves right up to the forests now. Our hunters manual each year states shooting hybrids around here is common so as long as it carries a few traits of the animal youre hunting, you arent in trouble for harvesting it. ie - a lot of whitetail around here have the forked G2 tines and no brown tines and really dark fur (our mule deer here are super dark, nearly black some of the times), so sometimes people near end of legal light could mistake it for the other species. They arent punished or criminalized for it
Greytail deer
our mule deer dont really 'bounce' much either, they kinda just run like normal deer lol
just to throw this out ther
brown bears and grizzlies are two different species of bear
very common for people to think they're the same/different names for the same bear
Eh not entirely true per se. Grizzlies ARE indeed brown bears but are considered a different subspecies (big difference). The ingame "brown bears" are most likely of the Eurasian subspecies versus the grizzly subspecies that are featured on Yukon. But both are brown bears regardless. Cladistics is confusing sometimes, lol.
This is weird saying this but classic has better skins for all the animals
@normal lake was that posted by the devs?
@lapis carbon Yes 2 years ago on their facebook, and that with "Where the doc is ... ?"
We have all the reserv where the doc was go (Savannah, Parque, Spain) the one that miss is New zealand, so 100% the map's comming
And TK say "the turkey are comming this year" The turkey are on New zealand, so.... I'm pretty sure that the map is new zealand
@supple tulip Might be worth mentioning that the brown bears currently got two models ingame
(Also that you picked the female euro bison screenshots against male real life bison)
Well the males look too round as well
But at least with them they look a bit better because male European bison are much more round
Hey @supple tulip why did you compare a real whitetail to an og rack instead of a new one?
@mental flint rack is ok, but models not really ;v
Cause Google
Black bear in real life are more skittish than anything. So it makes sense, why they aren't super common to see for a casual player.
Well it seems my luck with adding the beta fabled whitetail to my main save has run dry. The game crashes whenever I try entering the lodge after the recent update/patch, rip. My other lodge is totally fine so I can only assume it has something to do with that.
Not sure if this is a GO bug or a bug with transfering the save file around.
If I were to delete the lodge, would the trophies appear in my trophy manager? Yes, yes it does.
Can confirm this is a fabled Great One whitetail bug. Deleted the crashing lodge and when adding the GO to a wall plaque the game crashes.
You should get a role for slaying the first great one
A shame you canāt put it in your main lodge though
It was in there for a good while when I transfered the beta save file to the main one. But I guess while they were doing all the bug fixes for the trured update that something was changed/forgotten without the devs knowledge. I'm not too worried though. I'll just not showcase it until the bug is fixed lol. It'll be in the trophy manager for the time being.
Imagine since you killed the first go you got to pick the next map and youāre just messing with is ššš
dont transfer anything beta to live
they arent the same
if you mess with files you are going to mess things up
leave live as live and beta as beta
^
@restive briar I have this same bug i cant place my great one without the game crashing I'm supposed to be getting answers from the dev's today I believe
The fabled kangaroo Great One will be wearing boxing gloves š
Good to know that someone else is having issues with their GOs crashing the game. Doesn't seem to be a Beta bug because of that which is great news for me haha.
insert wilhelm scream here
Also behind it is my troll diamond red stag
big rip
First legendary stag I have seen
And it was silver

The new racks look a lot better on the stags then before
if it was silver you messed up either the gun class or didnt hit a vital
lowering ur trophy rating
probably would of gotten a high gold
Ok, listen here, Rocky Mountain map. ?
are you announcing something or asking something?
i think timbergold style map would be cool
Sheās happy cus her ex is getting eaten xD
Iām grinding out whitetail to try and get a GO to spawn. Where should I look to find whitetail? I donāt see any big herds on any of my known drink zones
@hollow mountain Use this map
@solar pumice what times should I hunt them
12:30-15:30
watch my newest whitetail video simple and you will get loads of them
the sweet time is about 2pm
Great vid as always- ive never seen herds like that!
Glad to see people find my map useful š
Fabeled
So if I understand this right, whitetail can be levels 1-3 for like the regular and then it just skips all the way up to 10 if itās a Great One
Correct.
I thought it was levels 1-5?
Blacktail are 1-5
Bison oddly are
1-3 for normal whitetails with 2-3 can make diamonds fabled is level 10
Does anyone know the best way to get a GO to spawn
Is there a chance for an albino one?
Believe it or not this is a elk in Far cry new dawn
To be fair its irradiated as hell
That looks more like farm new zealand red deers lul
last time I checked elk didnt have stripes either
Last time I checked far cry new dawn was a nuclear fallout
Well think we found the great one for the elk
probably gonna be a NT for elk for a 500"+ bull
Or palmate antlers https://huntdrop.com/uploads/drops/southwest-non-typical-elk.jpg
finding elk much more fun to hunt now tho since they reworked their racks
still needing that new diamond rack
the elk in Red dead 2 loom alright too
I mean...
Every animal in RDR2 looks amazing
So do the animals on cotw.
I strongly disagree.
In my opinion the animals all look amazing. Although I do think Blackbears need a retextured
I think they all look great. Incredible game.
The foxes and coyotes could@use a retexture too tbh
That def looks more like a red deer
Personally, I think the grizzly bears and lions need some TLC but overall the animal models in this game are pretty good as far as that goes
Especially since most of these animals are covered in fur, one of the many enemies of 3D artists
This image, IMO, is the best showcase of an elk vs. a red deer
As well as the brown and black bears
Almost everything could use a remodel
or redone animations
I don't think the elk model is bad but the animations don't make it feel like a proper elk
and the red deer look underweight almost
An animation overhaul would be nice
not to mention every deer species has broken shoulders
Red deer/ deer in general have such short stumpy muzzles
the fallow deer are the only ones I don't mind much
I've done some research on red deer lately and there are quite a few different looking reds around the globe. Some are skinny and others get bulky so not sure which reds are modeled in the game. They are pretty lean in the game. Some stags get really muscular and those look awesome.
Like some reds living on mountains don't gain much weight but they are more agile.
I feel that they've done this way mostly for cost/efforts sake? Anyways, far as models go ingame I do feel a few could use a bit more work while others are "okay"
I like pretty much all the animals on Medved for example
Lynx have a derpy look due to the eyes now and then, but thats mostly "it"
Vurhonga? Only bad models there are the lion and jackal
Overall the animal I find to be the most "in need" of some more model work would likely be the caribou
Like... least the black bears have a "thick fur" variant
Worst truRacks? The elk
didnt they just update the elk tho
Have you seen the elk after the update? They were fixed and are a lot better now
i havent even gotten a post update elk yet. gonna go get one right now.
Only a few but I havent noticed much myself
Then again my primary "issues" is with the lvl 3's and low 4's
I know the big 4's as well as 5's can look fantastic
Now 4s are same as 5s before update
and 5s are even bigger
And smaller are less wonky too
The shape is closer to the legacy racs now
Which were great
Yeeeeeee that sounds good
I really liked the legacy racks, even if they werent too unique
Was my fav animal before it got the truRacs
There are still trurac random bending and so on but they are better now.
Yeah the bending really just hurt on elk
Felt like some values were overtuned or someshit
Like I dont mind a super crooked antler rarely appearing but when 90% of the animals have wonky antlers it feels wrong
I still find elk racks to be my favourite just because I like the simplicity of their antlers over the red deers absolute bonkers trees
as much as I do like red deers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDOV2emdjHU Wonderful video showing the size of an elk and a red deer
love how the red is still down to take its chances with an elk
I'd love to see a comparison like that between elk and moose
Brutus was wide af too
still yet to find a new big 5
been getting some diamond 4's tho
still rip brutus
real life diamond
@fossil spear is that your pet elk?
if only
Brutus was a wild elk in Wyoming, one of the largest wild elks at the time
died to natural causes because you would probably have been shot if you shot him
thats awesome that no one shot him because he was so big
well if you ask me I think an animal looks much better in a photo than on someones wall
when the right person takes the photo it can look 10x better than a taxidermized animal
It also costs 10x less as well, lol.
mhmm
one reason why i want to go to New Zealand is for photography of the deer
would love to get up close to a big bull red or elk and get some nice shots
@fossil spear See my issue isnt with the "big racks" in terms of elk
Its the small racks
And "normal sized" ones
But yeah, other than a big lvl 4 I saw almost every elk I've seen have had the wonky "broken off" antlers as usual @analog flower
small levels 4's and big lvl 3's im always seeing as the old lvl 4s now
usualy the small lvl 3's and lvl 2's are the weird ones
sometimes a lvl 3 will have the old "broken" one
but never a level 4
Almost all of my lvl 3's have the broken off variant, while the rest have the twigs with thorns
most of the level 4's im finding though are toned down old level 5's
atleast they are lvl 3now
Like... screw these racks
Poor shot as I just sort of chucked one after it but still
I really dislike this particular variant given how they make up the majority of the elk
Another one
A third
I dunno, they just look like someone took a good grip on their antlers and tried to bend them off
Two rare good ones
One in the back being a relatively big 4
Those weird lvl 3s are everywhere
those better ones make up my majority for me
@radiant mortar Pretty much
Those weird dog legged tines throw me off
Yup, sort of spoils the bunch for me
I had a level 1 bull elk today, I honestly don't remember seeing one before
Rip Brutus
Yeah he had a year where he could hardly stop his head from rolling backwards
why do uu gotta chop their head off š¦
he was already dead
he died of natural causes and they decided to get his skull and deify him
They 100% went in to retrieve his body so it didnt get stolen by poachers
A elk like that would easily go for thousands considering how much popularity he had
oh ofcourse
altho would be a hard thing to get out of yellowstone
imagine being caught with his body in your truck coming out of the park where he was pretty much a legend
Damn, just found my tenth!!! diamond whitetail since the GO update haha. This is getting kinda weird. (Also only got two rares, feels kinda out of proportion)
atleast rares arn't as rare as they would be irl
How are you finding all these whitetail diamonds???
Kill all the biggest white tail bucks you can find and hope some of them will respawn as a diamond. That's all you can do.
@placid scaffold same question. Iāve been decimating my WT populations and have only seen one diamond
Your doing better than me, I shot a maybe, but he was like 10 points short
I dont know man. Just grinding the zones
Yea the GO spawn is completely random. Some have been shot off high lvl respawns,others off of lower respawns. Just a crap shoot so to speak.
I remember one of the dataminers mention something about that the GOs are attached to a level and a furtype. Not sure if that means that killing all WTs is a good idea (the same technique if you wanted a rare furtype to spawn) or only killing the big ones do (more diamond potentials).
What weight tracks do the GO leave behind
Do great one whitetail have unique calls vs their normal counterpart?
Yea the only technique thatāll up your odds of finding a GO is just to play more š¹ Idk never seen a GO track @hollow mountain Iāve heard theyāre āsupposedā to look different but have never even seen a track posted. As far as Iāve heard @finite jungle they have the same calls as the normal ones. I could be wrong but only the devs or people whoāve encountered one know š¹
Pretty sure their tracks atm are normal max weight ones for WTs. Prob a bug since the GOs can get over 230lbs. Unless that was fixed in an update.
I believe youāre 100% right @restive briar I know theyāve been trying to fix that and the appearance of it too for a bit now. Hopefully next update?? That and diamonds that weigh well over 100kgs
Late
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I just got my first Great one. in a place where i have never hunted before. I went trough there and shot some whitetail, then after a few nights away from the place i wnet back. and there he was.
Can i post it here?
daamn
So i just heard that we should not mount great ones, becuse there is a bug. Where can i find info about that?
Ok. Well i guess he will stay where he is for now. Bleh.. xD
I reckon that'll get fixed in the next patch/update. It was working fine before the truRed update.
Oh ok. š Oh! its you! Congrats on the first Great one! š
Will the great one be deleted if you mount it?
Thanks. Congrats on yours as well.
No, it shouldn't get deleted. But I did have to delete the lodge where mine was mounted in since it kept crashing. Thankfully, deleting a lodge just adds those trophies into your manager. Trying to remount it though causes a crash.
Hmmm, i think i will wait. Dont wanna risk anything. Thank you for the info
No problem.
I know someone else on here mentioned that he told the devs about it and they are looking into it. Hopefully they won't need to get wiped for this to fix itself.
In total? Probably upwards of 30-40+ by now, discord so far has had about 10 posted
Thereās gonna be people that shoot them and never say so the numbers are always gonna be iffy
@restive briar Im the one who contacted the devs about it im supposed to get a response from the devs about it but im on the low list of priorties
Might be something to mention during one of TKs streams. Would be nice to get some clarification on the matter if anything has been figured out yet or not.
Yeah i have alot of doubt i reported the first time on may 7
If phil is in the stream on Tuesday ill ask him about it @restive briar theres no point in asking tk
@winged rampart where did you find your great one on the map š ? Congrats mate
@tawdry matrix Thank you š I found him in Calburn, by the water just below the outpost! š
Found Bambi and falene
Fuck emā up
I donāt find it funny
Nope not at all
is it just me or have all the great ones looked exactly the same
there's probably only 1 seed for the racks on the great ones
meaning the layout will be the same but there will be tiny adjustments
hmm nevermind, seems like there are 6 atypical models and 9 per normal rack
dont know then, maybe everyone has just been landing on the same rack model each time
6?
Or it's bugged and those other models simply don't show, lol.
how do u know if there is a fabled one on ur map without seeing them up close
like whats there size and trophy rating?
They are big, very big
Looking at 600+ trophy rating
Youāll know when you see it
Dont quote me but i'm pretty sure there suposed to have there own track estimate from what i've heard but its bugged currently.
Take that with a grain of salt though
Def bugged in terms of tracking. Or maybe it's a planned feature to increase the difficulty in hunting them but anyways. Their tracks atm read a max WT track but considering they weigh 230+lbs makes 'em bugged, imo.
100kg? or 85-100?
All the extra weight is antler
The tracks of the great on on my map had diffrent weight on it tracks. Cant remeber the exact nr but the last nr was over 100
Good to know :o
I found this. And the tracks said the same. Just not the lvl ofc
Oooh makes sense
@winged rampart
You lie, you claim you just shot one a couple days ago
Or is that screenshot the same GO as before?
Its the same one yes. I dont lie....'
has anyone thats been shooting lots of whitetail had all their herds completely change? I've shot somewhere between 1500 and 1700, and suddenly, I have a lot of lakes with no herds, where I've had them since this started, and a few lakes with huge herds. Seems odd
I mentioned having had the same thing happen to me about a month or so back during my grind on whitetails. Essentially herds were disappearing and whitetails were appearing in areas that never had them. Also had issues with respawns as well that I never had previously. Took a step back and simply stopped grinding WTs because of it honestly.
I would say my total number of deer is about the same, but its much harder to kill like 20-25 in a 45 min span as I was able to before that, since those few big herds hold like 6-7 bucks, instead of a bunch of spots with 1-4 bucks
A lot of my usual places don't have any whitetail anymore. But some only have like 1 or 2 females. I have the same problem with Red Deer in Hirschfelden. Red Deer does not exist in Jonsdorf anymore.
Have not hunted them like I have the whitetail, but it feels like something happend there. And that the same thing is happening with the whitetail.
Oh and I don't have any big herds with Whitetail. The biggest I know of has 9 females in it
@fallow owl Same happens for me. I have about 1500 shot so far as well. Zones changed a couple times. I don't have big herds at all anymore. A couple zones with only females. Some zones are just declining. Like spawning less and less each run I do. It's weird.
@ocean orchid @fallow owl Exact same for me. Been grinding WT and no longer have any herds. I actually commented a week or two ago about how large the herds I see on some streams are versus the 2 or 3 (maybe 5 sometimes) I now have. Iām also finding them in totally random spots away from regular need zones
Same here. Has anybody tried killing those week zones to see if a new zone comes back with a different population to it?
Was thinking of trying that but not sure if thatāll screw things up
You might want to try population resets
I play console so canāt do that
Same.
Iāll give it a try later. Iāve got 2 zones that used to hold 3-4 bucks but havenāt had anything but 1 doe for 2 months of playing.
What will you be trying? @full cave
Will try killing those need zones and see if the new ones that come back will have a different pop to it @iron bison I figure may as well try something different cause those 2 zones are useless as they are.
Iāll give it a go. Like others- I have decimated my WT buck population on all need zones. On occasion, a new level 2 (187-220lb, 250ish trophy level buck will show up, but Thats about it now). @full cave
Yea Iām experiencing the same exact thing. So itās worth a shot?? I figure at least that way I donāt have to keep checking those spots and wasting time to find the same exact lonely doe every time. May as well put her out of their misery š¹š¹
Haha š¤š½
I've had zones slowly switch. Like certain zones slowly stopped producing bucks, and new zones appeared, but all at once like this was odd. Just casually hoping there's a great one that spawned and thats what it means, but i highly doubt that xD
i think tweaks maybe have happened maybe to keep it fresh so we don't just rinse same areas. who knows. š
@fallow owl Same thing happens to me. Though sometimes a zone which has had only does for an eternity will produce like a single buck haha. Really dont get that.
@pliant oak I know they've done stuff like that in the past. Red Deer being moved out of Jonsdorf, Mallards getting moved around, etc, but usually thats after an update, mine was just after a normal run last night everything switched, I know they had control over stuff like that in classic without updating, so maybe? that would be interesting to say the least
My whitetail need zones vanished twice now after the most recent update, they are all over the place. Every time I look for them I find them in new zones and then when I launched the game again a day or so later their zones would be gone..odd.
Me too.
@fallow owl Oh! So thats why i dont find any Red Deer there! I did not know š
@fallow owl my herds did the same
classic was server side change which i dont think cotw works like that. who knows. @fallow owl
Yea I donāt have automatic updates on or anything cause I like to see if thereās issues with the updates before I do. So my map hasnāt been updated
I am having a diffrent problem as well. The drink need zones for whitetail dont always show on the map.
I've noticed I cant get more than one zone for any herd. I tried hunting whitetail feed times just to see if that helped, I found my same herd's feed zones, and that removed the drink zones off the map, relocating the drink zones added them and deleted the feed zone icon. Idk why that happens
@pliant oak yeah thats what I thought since it can be played offline, just seems bizarre it could change like that without an update. Could be some intentional mechanic I suppose, as a way to keep the game fresh
@fallow owl can you dm me quick i have a question for you?
Sorry for asking in this channel just saw he was here
@fallow owl i have the same issues with them disapearing i had one zone in particular where I kept going and then after reseting the time the next time I checked the zone only 1 female was left so I left it alone for about 3-4 days but nothing respwaned so I decided to kill it if the spot would respawn anything but all it did was delete the zone and not open up a nother one.
I lost a couple whitetail drink and eat zones as well recently
interesting š¤ i just ran around and found like 8-10 new zones, thats so odd
Lol have not checked on layton yet for a while
@fallow owl can you please dm me or send me a friend request?
I have the question for you
Itās not a bug, itās a feature
Whats a feature?
yeah like i spent like 2 hours just running around my map yesturday looking for new zones found 0 and thats like a week after like 5-6 got deleted
yeah im worried about something like that
@fallow owl are you gonna stream tonight?
the same thing is happening with my red deer zones on cuatro too not parque thoš¤
@fallow owl I tried grinding for a great one but gave up as my wt zones got deleted every time I logged off, went to mp, tried shooting a single deer in a zone it gets deleted when I logged off after that
thats super weird =/ zones do seem to be slightly off atm
Hey @fallow owl ter, in case you see this, I've shot several trophies on med ved that I taxidermied but they dont show up when I want to mount it, message me if you want to see proof. I saw you were playing on med ved the other day and thought you might want to know
oh thats odd. just medved?
Nope just had a diamond kudu as well
So far a diamond lynx, diamond boar, peibald musk deer, and a diamond kudu
Hmmm @sage sparrow i had the same issue but it fixed itself after logging back into the game and going into the trophy lodge. They would reappear and let me place them
I tried that but no luck
Hmmm ok worst case did u try reinstalling the game? It sounds drastic but it did help some people with other trophy lodge issues before
I'll try later, I'll need to update my saves
Ok sounds good
The whole zone disappearing stuff seems to really have worked for you though Flinter. Its just plain annoying for me as of now. By now I really have a ridiculous amount of whitetails shot and now I see less and less each run. I've been trying to find the new zones but they always seem to only be temporary. Like I'll get one or two respawns before zones shift again. Its ridiculous
it must of worked he was on about zones dissapearing then got a great one š congrats by the way flinter ! @fallow owl
@fallow owl my zone have scrambled as well. Day before everything went sideways I played MP on Layton for first time in a long period so I thought it was because of this.
And yeah congrats!š
By me I am going down to 6 whitetail zones now that actually stay and work with respawnsš” i keep looking for new zones but they disappear after 2-3 time resets so its frustrating hunting them as progress is like finding a needle in a haystack
The new zones are not established your over hunting white tails š¤£š¤£š¤£ let them re stabilise.
thanks @pliant oak š I nearly gave up when that happened, it felt like a gut punch, but he was just around the corner lol
@serene iron thanks š I have done a bit more multiplayer lately, tho I hadnt for a while before mine shuffled around
yeah hopefully bag one at one point had a little break from them in last week shot so many diamonds whitetail then had a week of grizzly bear hunting š fingers crossed i see the great one .
i never even got a diamond whitetail yet lol. gotta up my game a lil
looking at track weight is the best way to find them, from what i gather?
@graceful mural Nah probably just setting up tripods and tents at your zones. Way more efficient
Im up to 13 diamonds by now... And 4 rares
aight cool
Flinter did a video recently on how to grind for specific species. That explains it very well.
Btw Iām one the lucky ones that have 108 kg diamond wt in lodge ... and itās not the GO
ahh no š¦ I have to be honest that would have killed my drive. Though I would have eventually gotten back at it seeing people get them
@serene iron Aw man that sucks.
@ocean orchid thats a lot of diamonds! š® I think I killed like 7 or 8 total, but I had way more rares! 2 of those were diamonds somehow, but I think I had like 8 rares? pretty sure 8
"way" more... I guess not xD a few more
@fallow owl Haha yeah its weird. I kinda get annoyed when I see a lvl. 3 by now because id much rather get a rare. All my diamonds were common too so yeah. Your multimount is beautiful btw. Best whitetail so far is a gold mela for me.
But game compensated me sorta say... I got 3 diamond wt back to back when this happened
So I killed the fake go and next 2 was literally sitting and waiting in my next spot
I definitely would like a nice melanistic but I was very lucky so I wonāt complain :p but thanks man! Whitetail were always my favorite but I didnāt expect all the cool ones to show up in a 2 month stretch
After that it was loooong nothing ... yesterday I killed lvl 3 that didnāt make diamond
Those are the worst š¦ just big trolls
@fallow owl Id really like an albino too. The other 3 rares are all piebalds
@serene iron Aww man. Trolls are the worst
Ps since I began grind I havenāt any rare diamonds. And I only had 2 gold piebalds
How do you estimate your total wt count btw? @fallow owl
Thatās so interesting. But one thing is for sure, piebalds seem the most common. I had I think 5 piebalds and 3 albinos. 1 piebald was multiplayer now that i think of it
But I donāt have as much kills u have flinter. I donāt have that much time to play š„ŗ
Btw Iām in the middle š¤Ŗ
I was mostly counting my whitetail runs. I almost always managed 20 kills per run or more, and I lost count at 50 cuz once I figured I passed 1000 kills I didnāt care as much, but I keep track of my total harvests pretty closely. And I know I only shot like 100-120 red deer, maybe an additional 100 animals while hunting those, and a few hundred animals in freaks and videos, so 1600 I think is quite accurate
Oh hey I know that guy!
streams* and videos lol. Freaks? Really iPhone xD
@fallow owl Ahh I see. I unfortunately didn't really count anything. Didnt watch my total harvests either. Id really like a little more statistics. Would be cool if there was like a harvest counter per species in the statistics somewhere. Im pretty sure Im along the lines of maybe 1500-2000 tho.
If you have 13 diamonds, even with above average luck you must be at least 1500 I would think
I hopped into mp earlier today and after going back to singleplayer my map was totally messed up. All zones were really weird. That has happened once before when I played multiplayer. Really annoying. Im setting up my map basically from scratch rn xD
i do a lot of multiplayer, but that never seemed to hurt my zones. ya know.... I did do multiplayer right before that change happened on my map, i totally forgot, but i shot an albino doe, I was going to record a video just doing multi, but i changed my mind, maybe that was why
Maybe. It seems a bit weird at the moment. I liked it when my zones were steady and I could just do my runs without worrying about if they would be there next run xD
yeah, right? š it takes a lot to set everything up and its much more fun pulling the trigger xD
Absolutely š And I also feel like they normally don't just straight up disappear. Like at some point just no more bucks spawn, but I still keep checking the spots just in case. But its really just a waste of time
yep, I had a few spots like that where I eventually stopped checking, but then I had the one that spawned bucks like once every 15 runs, but one of them was a piebald xD like now i have to keep checking
Just yesterday I got a diamond from a zone i never really check anymore š
see thats the thing! I had some deer on the east coast of the map, and I was always afraid maybe I'd have GO spawn there, cuz I did shoot some, but that area is a pain to hunt so I usually dont bother, but I ran through the areas I dont go to much the other day, including there and didnt see one, so decided I wouldnt be touching those xD
I hate hunting the east coast. I go along it every once in a while just to be safe but I avoid it if I can. Had one piebald in a zone I used to have there. I also really hate north lake. WT are really hidden there and you can't really set up well for it. I used to have loads at balmont lake. Got probably 4 or 5 diamonds there, but now I dont even have wt there anymore.
I never did kill a diamond at balmont lake, and I'm sure I shot well over 100--probably over 200 bucks there, and consistently at least one 85-100kg buck, but yeah, it did the same for me, they all went away
lol thats a common one no worries š whats up
Well I gotta go do some Uni stuff. Congrats on your GO again. Ill keep grinding xD I'll post mine in here once I get it haha
thanks š good luck man
i never get a lot of blacktail, i have always felt whitetail took over layton maybe 2 years ago, but maybe its just the areas i hunt š I mean I see a lot of them, but i see that a lot, people saying they dont have many whitetail. its interesting
The blacktails are a bloody plague
lol
@fallow owl what should I do if I canāt find any WT drink zones? I have three on my map and I have searched during their drink times on all the lakes
I only got 5 and the rest are blacktail Gonna need Godzilla to kill more blacktails
balmont lake i shot 2 or 3 diamond whitetails there now. mainly all the ones i shot are in my new whitetail guide probably 8 -10 diamond ones. love the melanistic ones but only shot small ones of them.
2pm seems to be the best time there abouts for whitetail and water
@fallow owl Ahh I see. I unfortunately didn't really count anything. Didnt watch my total harvests either. Id really like a little more statistics. Would be cool if there was like a harvest counter per species in the statistics somewhere. Im pretty sure Im along the lines of maybe 1500-2000 tho.
@ocean orchid u can check total harvest in your codex hunter profile
My map is also heavily skewed towards Blacktail
I'm hoping to find a great one before my first diamond that would be greqt
@fallow owl i got my first diamond whitetail from doing the same as what you did
Grinding for great one now
Also speaking of grinding when we get truracks for mule deer I wonāt needa do the grind cus I already have 2 diamond mule deer
@iron bison I know that. I was only talking about whitetails tho.
@plain surge Congrats. Keep it up š
And my first albino was a female Siberian musk deer
Later Iāll get pics of all my diamonds and rares
And uncommons
Whatās the difference between rare and uncommon fur types???
@ocean orchid my apologies
I'm actually interested how Flinter was able to mount the GO without the game crashing. Maybe the issue is with Spring Creek (where my crashes were occuring in). I'll have to see if multimounts and the African styled lodge causes a crash for me or not. Interesting.
@restive briar i believe its because ours were shot pre hotfix and there is something wrong and the game gets confused
I was told by konrad it is going to get fixed though @restive briar
Glad to have some confirmation finally. For a moment there I was thinking that they'll be no way to recover our GOs.
Yeah
someone told me about that after I had already placed it, otherwise I probably wouldnt have done it for fear of it corrupting the data or something š but all I did was use the multimount, and I did add him first if that makes a difference
@fallow owl do you have any screen shots of your GO? I have crappy internet so the video quality on my phone wonāt do it justice. Also I have several questions about the whitetail hunting grind that your videos canāt explain.
Yeah I can post one in here, go ahead and PM me the questions as well š
2 because this multimount 
@fallow owl Next step, albino great one šš
@fallow owl i have a question about the grinds of where to look at but cant send you a dm
@lime oxide albino GO would look awesome
A whole huddle whitetail of different fur variations Great Ones
from what i have seen i think it's the antlers and amount of points
some have more then others
I havnt seen any variation at all, i know there are not so many pictures yet
but they all look the same :S
@fallow owl
someone told me about that after I had already placed it, otherwise I probably wouldnt have done it for fear of it corrupting the data or something š but all I did was use the multimount, and I did add him first if that makes a difference
@fallow owl That was me lol And after i saw you do it. I did it as well. And it worked just fine ^^
I wonder how the great one would look in the side by side mount
for those who want to smash whitetail follow my guide hit those spots from 1 45 - 3pm
After this weāll be hunting Loch Ness
Reason: Duplicated text
Gonna take pics of me diamonds
It says I got 7 but I got 6 diamonds
Two of my truwater buffalo
thanks @real panther!
Most welcome my friend nice shot bet you was jumping lol
sure was lol xD

š
When you miss a shot on a animal they be like XD
@fallow owl Oi flinter you got any problems with the models in game cus this doofus keeps saying there all trash
Mule Deer models are bad, general consensus among players
I did not need your opinion
Cool, well you got it
And I donāt need it
I donāt enjoy being called a doofus so you will get my opinion
By doofus it wasnāt you
@full cave i agree cant wait for mule tru racs i hope they do good on them the ones now look really plastic
Yah I honestly hope the redo the entire model lol
possibly i hope
maybe trurac mule deer will be the next species with them going on silver ridge peaks
they did say they wanted to work on mulies "more" so they wont be implemented in SRP
but I think thats a pretty good hint as to what the next truracs will be
clearly, next up is TruProng
Pronghorn allready have tru racks
exactly
Oh now i get it
Next tru rac is mule deer I thought that was confirmed
Because itās just that and axis deer
Probably much farther into the future
Hey itās ronmctube I love that dudes accent
One of my if not my favorite classic youtuber
Rudy is my favorite tho
Nice
Rudy canāt say ridge
No offense but I see in the silver ridge reserve he can hardly pronounce it
my accent ahh you mean game of thrones š basically its nottingham mixed with yorkshire sheffield
Great one lion XD
Yess the Barbary lion would be cool to base the G1 off of
(I say base off of because unfortunately these guys are extinct in the wild)
I got this great one 3-4 days after update!
Very nice
Lucky
@fossil spear when did they say mulies arent going to be in SRP?
Never
Finally we got a new reserve for hunting mulies
I just hope theyāre not puny
talking about mule deer -> posts pronghorn
Pronghorn are chad tbh
But once TruMule drops, they gonna be the new chads
Yeet
They said mulies TRURACS wont be in SRP when it drops, they said they wanted more time to work on them
I never said mulies wont be in SRP
Idk whatās my favourite in the new reserve
favorite way to shoot bison?
big bois
They're so thicc
Those would most likely make diamond
There are bigger
Much bigger
I hope with truRAC mulies they do truBODIES too because they need a remodel
I think they wonāt be able to perfect tru racks for mulies, a basic 4 point is usually tiny, thereās just so much possible from 8 different points
To actually get larger
I also hope they do a great one mule deer with nice droppers
TruSize?
Also
They're taking their time with the TruRAC mulies
To make sure it's good
They're not rushing it for Silver
Thatās one big ram
One head butt from that thing and punctured lungs
At some point, a great one bighorn..thatāll be crazy
It will looks like a Marco Polo sheep hopefully
It would probably be a 2 curl and Half or so
I just don't want them to be like the mouflon
Everything excluding animation
I think that one's for the weight, Blue
Thickness?
By pope and young and Boone and Crockett score
Boone and Crockett Club
One sec let me check that out
Oh no
I know why
A sheep in Montana was found bigger dead
But the one I showed was largest killed
Why would you want bighorn sheep to be smaller?
What?
Thatās not a Rocky big horn
The last one
This is the picture of the largest ever found dead in Montana
100% true
Okay, but why would you want much smaller bighorn sheep diamonds?
Sad, you canāt hunt on the area where this guy lived. Top 3/5 of the biggest sheep were on wild horse island, Montana
Iād say that world record is good enough
But that'd be considered a great one
No
Yes
Would it?
Or at least high golds
Itās hard for antelope though
Cause antelope, 3 inches is a crazy difference, they donāt have much to show
These ain't antelope, chief
These are better
Idk why, but bighorn sheep fascinate me
Wow, looking back at this guy, Iāve realized heās really thick and has broken tips, imagine seeing him with them on
Yes, but in the matters of a great one antelope, it would look weird
I hope they do rme next for great one
Spyder bull
Lol
Not Layton
Cue the theme song
Thereās not good pics of him for some reason
Moose isnāt Layton specific
It is still Layton
Monster typical mule deer
Itās just so hard to code random 8 prongs
Mulie looks like a diamond
This will probably be a diamond for tru racks, even though it looks dumb. Mule deer have a very similar template, but change drastically
Itās hard to code drops and spike a
Is a big 4 point, but like, he isnāt cool. All my family has shotten atypical mule deer itās not hard
I really like my uncles, it has a 5th point where the 2 parts intersect
Imagine coding that though, itās impossible
you think he was standing far enough back
What do you mean
What
Howās his head standing up like that if nobodyās there to hold it up
Oh yeah how could I have not known that this deer was actually as big as Clifford
My bad
he should stand farther away to make the deer look bigger
would make for a funny picture
I donāt think itās taxidermised
Would have his head staring at the ground if so XD
I think I know the video that photo is from. Itās called āhunting stereotypesā
hehe
Would have his head staring at the ground if so XD
@lucid schooner bruh, you realize not all mounts stare forward deadpan right?
Have the devs said anything if they are going to do great ones on other species or it was a one time thing?
they are going to
we just dont know when
might even get one with the new map
because I thik something was thrown around about having great ones added and not telling the community
Oh thats nice, great ones are a great addition for sure
Nice spread on the boy
@devout night is that one staring at the ground? No
Plus
Itās not even taxidermised
They had just shot it
I hope the great one predators arenāt extra aggressive
Iād rather not have my soul leave my body
I want all the predators to be a lot more aggressive
Like how in RDR2, you could be charged by a bear but if you hold your ground, itāll bluff charge and run off
And how irl, you have to make sure a buffalo is dead before you approach it cause it could jump up and kill ya
Cape buffalo pull that shit
Tim Wells, the āMaster Spear Hunterā fell for it
I donāt get attacked enough by the aggressive animals other than the Cape buffalos. I either get killed by fricken deer or cape. No bear or wolves hardly or even lion
Yeah bears attack you only when youāre directly under them and as relentless as a fat acceptance speaker trying to walk up stairs
In other words, they roar, run at you, roar again, then run off into the woods to die
No mauling or anything
Idk, I donāt want a game to specifically deliver on the accuracies of a bear mauling you
But Iād like it if it portrayed the animals as more unpredictable rather than getting easily spooked away
@devout night is that one staring at the ground? No
@lucid schooner I quoted that, those weren't my words, they were yours, and how tf would its head be up if it wasnt taxidermized
Any ways I was talking about your picture
I know
I watched them
So is the mount supposed to be a standing one or a laying one?
standing, they just laid it down
also, you can tell its taxidermy for there is no blood or exit-entry hole
fucking love the animal ai in rdr2
its cool
Is the GO in MP? Iām curious if I can get a group of friends on and help me look for him
Look is an understatement
Like looking for a needle in a hay field
like looing for life in the universe
In the long dark I like the super aggressive animals but theres something about going through bushes in vurhonga with lion breathing noises everywhere that really terrifies me
is it tuesday yet?
feels like that

I want tuesday so bad but also want the rework on the TRU horns of the Bighorn
Yee
This last week felt like a month
This may be a dumb question but I'm still kinda new at cotw. Did the great one spawn on everyones map when the update hit or do you have to kill a ton of big whitetail before it will spawn to your map? š¤
It works like having a rare spawn
Question about respawns
If I were to kill a big animal but itās not max level
Like letās say a 4 gemsbok with the same trophy estimate as a 5 gemsbok
If it respawns at a higher level, will it have random values or will it still have the same general horn/antler shape as it had when it was lower level
Like for example, I killed a mythical buffalo that had the same exact trophy estimate as a legendary today (very big for mythical) . If it respawns as a legendary, will it be a huge legendary or will it respawn with a different horn shape so itās not guaranteed to be a massive legendary?
Depends itās the roll of a dice
The dice has four sides big drop slight drop slight raise big raise
no one really knows
I know for a fact where I got my 4th WT diamond this morning, the buck that spawned before the diamond was a lvl 1 that had a score like 150, and the next spawn was the diamond.
So it would seem to me that any spawn has a chance of a bronze/silver/gold/diamond, and each bracket has its own weight
What does WT stand for?
Whitetails
Oh
Hey guys, do dead females have chance to spawn male(and vice versa) or is it only male to male, female to female?
CotW doesnāt spawn dead animals
But in Classic, it spawns dead Rocky Mountain elk carcasses
They always spawn female
A male will always respawn as a male, a female will always respawn female
Or sometimes they donāt respawn
If zones deleted
Which my wt zones always do cause apparently leaving the game makes 90% of them disappear
Im sure they always respawn but may be in a random zone
Yeah deleting zones wonāt delete the animal
went out night time for the first time in forever
so that's where all the animals have been hiding
have they shown off any new weapons for the new map?
yes, its a longbow
its really cool
yeah but which video is it in?
watch foosters latest video
a simple google search away
is it sighted?
fun
Recurve with more penetration and easier to aim
No. You look along the arrow. Meaning arrow head is point to the center.
oohh noice
You can use the arrow tip to aim
But it also comes with more arrows which fit recurve too! So you can kill all the species in the game with the traditional bows.
350gr, 540gr and 700gr arrows
I'm so hyped about that š
Main question though.. will 350gr and 700gr be available without the map
Really hope they are.. if not i'm gonna be disappointed as hek
That I do not know but I'd say maaaybe since they can be used with the recurve. But can't say.
Anyone have any insight into the next great one? Sorry if I missed this in the chat
Rumors, insider, anything
If youāre talking about new species great one, no
Thereās no news, and thereās not gonna really be any news. From my understanding, when they release a GO species, itās gonna be in patch notes simply saying āGreat One Addedā
Why does this channel still exist? there isn't even much fabled ones talk it in. the big majority of it is like a general/cotw chat lol
What is fabled?
"fabled ones chat"
Fabled, aka "The Great One" is a more rare version of a diamond
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Oh ok so it's the great one
Thank you Ref
might be more of a useful answer
Don't face palm, you didn't answer correctly
I've never even seen cotw before let alone play I didn't know
But you're in a cotw chat, So it'd be safe for me to assume you have atleast played the game
Aaand, I'm pretty sure I can face palm if I want to š
-_- that's like saying a toddler is in preschool so they should already know the whole alphabet
I'm here cuz I'm stupid and asking about the game
Well yes, I can tell you're stupid
Have a good day
Now that was just unnecessarily rude lol
How is it rude agreeing with her?
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the sound of me vomiting due to 2 Muppets fighting over somethink stupid
I hate muppets š
ngl hotbread ur making urself sound like ur missing a few brain cells bud
no cause the way you act
I honestly don't give 2 shits
I mean, you are not behaving much better @stiff trench just saying.
i mean i dont remmeber you being in this convo bud
i would stay out of it before i make another kid cry
i certainly in heck didnt and when u was in this convo bud
i would also stay outa before u have to cry to daddy cotw
That's dope
You literally wasn't part of this convo to begin with either 
you know what would be neat, a fabled lion with black manes
That would be cool
@stiff trench
you not ping me you idiot
bwhahaha
whilst im literally here typing
i was trying to change to fabled lions actually š
maybe a silver one
and it has mech cyborg parts
š¤
i just pointed out they should fix the bugs
wrong channel for that
get on topic
maybe fabled bunnies
with mech parts of course
im certain mech cyborg stuff isnt related to cotw
well
get on topic retard
you tryna reference me as a boomer
lol
kid i think u are literally 12 only 12yr kids use Boomer references
ok boomer
ok zoomer
or what if the fabled one just had laser eyes so you can see em in the dark and its spoopy
your stupid.
The intelligence of this chat is incredible
indeed
i think he means u bud
your the one who is talking about animals being mechs
that sound pretty retarded for a hunting game
no, you do š
why are there so many grumpy old people here
Cause Great ones
Iwannacuddle are u mentally ok
Tf happened here
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Iām confusion
are brown bears messed up?
every brown bear Iāve seen has had a rare fur pattern
but Iāve only seen 2 so
Well
The brown bears have tons of fur patterns
But most arenāt rare
I think only the melanistic and albino brown bears are rare
Spirit it the hardest uncommon to find
:/
@lone hazel they are uncommon not hard to find but they count as uncommon
I know they count as uncommon but imo they are way to common to call them uncommon xd
You can call them common
Something like piebald moose is uncommon then
Thats how i look at it too
wait so
i just joined
so you have to kill whitetail u get a chance of the great one spawning in layton?
apparently there is a message that pops up when it spawns or so,ething
Think of the GO as a rare fur type. The more whitetail you kill the higher chance you get of one spawning on the next respawn. But expect to kill 1000s of WTs or just get extremely lucky.
No message pops up.
Fabled Piebald
well ty
@restive briar have you tried to place your great one after the update
I haven't. I'll try that out whenever I'm done on Silver Ridge.
Ok i was iust curious im on ps4 so š







