#🦌︴help-and-tips

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last hemlock
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it has to be stored somewhere right 😂

sturdy coral
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I'd imagine so

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It sounds like a map bug but I'm not entirely sure.

last hemlock
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well i did unlock all of them by hand.. so it was my own mistake

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i just need for one of each lookout and outpost to lock again so i can do that first mission

last hemlock
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I think I found a solution @sturdy coral , i replaced the 'missions' file and that reset the system and woke that Carolina up out of her sleep.. you don't actually have to have a lookout and outposts free to do the mission: the lookout you just have to run up the stairs and the outposts is claimable again during the mission.. although i already have it white, so must be two layers or smth

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yes this fixed it

proper sable
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but there is no E to put it there

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wondering if i can remove something or replace it in cfg to make it work again

signal gyro
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@proper sable Did you see my post elsewhere about trying to turn missions off then back on in the settings? Haven't tried it myself but it could trigger the event again maybe?

proper sable
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tried that icon disappears with missions off . turn back on it appears . still no E to mount the animals though

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just wondering if you remove something or replace it may fix it

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its the most important part of the missions and the lodge yet cant do it

signal gyro
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Yeah, I've seen a few others with this issue also.

proper sable
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not only that the icon can be seen from anywhere on the reserve never goes away

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so you constantly see it where ever you are

signal gyro
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Yeah

steady yew
tawny plinth
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Are you trying to put out tents or something?

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If you are just hunting, then you don't want to put the backpack on anyway

steady yew
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Its more to carry extra.
I always carry duck decoys and a hide just in case i come across a pond for quick cash,

tawny plinth
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Well they scare animals from like 200 meters

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I've never used them so I can't help you, I was just gonna suggest not even using them unless you were setting up

pale island
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Guys, see the rocks to the right and the lines in the shot, I get that alot, got a decent PC but I can't figure out why this is happening all of a sudden ? Happens alot on grass and trees aswell.

steady yew
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@tawny plinth its all good,
Just the bag cost 20k and i cant even equip it 😂..

tawny plinth
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Rip

signal gyro
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@steady yew Try clicking on "Backpack Color" https://imgur.com/bpqT0XT

It seems button placement has been off in these last few builds in a couple of the menu/options screens. Often times the accept button does not work and you need to click the name of the setting your are trying to change instead.

steady yew
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@signal gyro that works yea,
But now its telling me i cant afford to male changed.. i bought the damn thing already lol.. daft game

signal gyro
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Interesting. You didn't make any other changes like sex, character, or clothing did you?

steady yew
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Nah even when i back out the menu and try it says the same thing

pale island
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no ideas about my graphics issue? 😜

carmine galleon
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is there a best time of day for geese?

proper sable
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no

last hemlock
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I don't ever see the geese

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So........

solid karma
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Anyone that has done the water sample mission on Vurhonga could I get some help? The location of the water samples isn't showing up on my map and I need to coordinates

wicked cargo
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I think it's the ponds in the south east part of the map

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next to the river

bold patrol
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Im having trouble getting past the dynamite bit on fernando

I had shot the dynamite from the wrong spot earlier and now after the patch and trying it again i cant seem to "hit" it even though im straight on it

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I really want to get past this bit and stop the map from being in a constant downpour

pastel grotto
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Anyone got all the targets for Fernando reserve mission yet? I'm sitting at 14/15 and really wanting the .338

wary hare
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can anybody tell me why the starting screen is asking me to buy content i already bought ? I have all maps/DLC's and still it's asking me to buy some map

rustic raven
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if you buy it it wont go away i guess

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dont think it should really be obstructing anything tho

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its like if you buy cable and youre watching tv and see ads for the cable youre watching it on

tropic stump
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It's just an unfinished MOTD thing

proper sable
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yeah i have the content and also get a message about buying the map.

last hemlock
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any tips for getting serious money?

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I'm shmoking the occasional animal I run across on Layton

tropic stump
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Do all the missions you can if you haven't already

last hemlock
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I bought a bow, so atleast I have a better chance with hers

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herds*

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I'm on Hope 3 rn

stark ingot
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go after the achievements for killing 50 of each animal. while your busy doing that your money will jump up

last hemlock
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should I bother grinding for the regular 270 since I have the engraved?

tropic stump
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no reason to

last hemlock
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or go straight to grinding for the 7mm

tropic stump
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You'll just unlock it as you go regardless

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But the next gun you buy should be the 7mm, at least as far as rifles go

last hemlock
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I guess my next grind is the hyperion

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I'm not gonna get the long range scope at the top for awhile

tropic stump
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I really only use the 4-8x

last hemlock
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the Hyperion then?

stark ingot
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not gpt 7mm yet

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is it that good ?

tropic stump
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Hyperion yeah

tawny plinth
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Will take every big animal in the game

tropic stump
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I use my 7mm on the big game, takes down buffalo/bison efficiently

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And it has great range

last hemlock
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so 243 for deer and fox

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270 for deer and bear

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moose as well

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7mm for the big game

tawny plinth
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.223 for fox

stark ingot
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i got the 45 - 70

last hemlock
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is there a list of what rifle gives integrity for each species?

stark ingot
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that seems to jump from killing things fine to not doing that

tawny plinth
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.243 for deer, coyotes, etc.
7mm for reindeer and up

last hemlock
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thanks

tawny plinth
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You can kill everything on the maps with the .243, 7mm, and .22

last hemlock
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don't have weapon pack 1 so rip

tawny plinth
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You are missing the crossbow then too

stark ingot
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oh so the 45 - 50 is better for deer while the 7mm if better for bigger stuff

tawny plinth
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45-70 works a lot better on moose and up now than it used too

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It'll take up to Cape buffalo down well now

last hemlock
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270 doesn't give integrity for blacktail?

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the hell

tawny plinth
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No

stark ingot
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but it does for white tail

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odd

tawny plinth
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Whitetail are bigger

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It should anyway, but that is why

last hemlock
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I guess I'll have to bring my 243 with me aswell for long shots

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I've got my bow on me though, so not much to worry

tawny plinth
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On Layton
Take the .243, 7mm, and a bow

last hemlock
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don't have the 7mm as yet

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so its 243, 270 and bow for now

tawny plinth
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Okay

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You can easily kill everything though with the .270

stark ingot
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270 is a solid gun for killing everything

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been using it ages

last hemlock
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i

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am worried about integrity

tawny plinth
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I never use it but it was one of my favorite guns

last hemlock
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incase of golds or diamonds

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I had a run in with a 7 very hard bear earlier

stark ingot
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not had a diamond yet

tawny plinth
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Integrity is really easy to keep as long as you have the right weapon

last hemlock
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hmm

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so 270 and bow for now?

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or include the 243

tawny plinth
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Take .243

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Take as many things as you can without going over on carry weight

stark ingot
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i used to take the 270 and a bow

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now i tend to go out geared up for one animal

tawny plinth
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I take a weapon for every animal

stark ingot
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but foxs dont wanna play

last hemlock
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do dlc animals show up in your map without you having the dlc?

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I didn't buy ducks but I see mallards in the lakes

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also in start game

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Medved, Vurhonga and Parque aren't greyed out

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almost like I can start a game on the reserves

tawny plinth
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Animals are never DLC, only maps and equipment

last hemlock
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o

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so I can shoot ducks and geese?

tawny plinth
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If you don't have the maps you can't go to them though

stark ingot
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unless its multiplayer

tawny plinth
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Yes, use the 12 ga on ducks and 12 ga or .223 on geese

stark ingot
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not done any shotgun or pistol hunting yet

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didnt like the brids

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id like more deer sized stuff to hunt

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i would also like to know if bears will start hunting animals like the puma does

last hemlock
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probably not

tawny plinth
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I've shot one duck

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I know in Classic, the wolves hunt animals, however, the other predators in the game do not

stark ingot
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wolves could be fun

tawny plinth
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Yeah

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I had a good time hunting them in Classic

stark ingot
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never played classic

last hemlock
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do you want i send you invite to try it

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with invite you get some nice stuff for game that you dont need to buy later

stark ingot
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im ok thanks

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i already suck at call of the wild

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i dont need to suck at another hunting game aswell

last hemlock
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I guess my main goal is to hunt black bear

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since I seem to get 1k cash on them

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does the farm tactic still work?

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with the atv

last hemlock
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How to get rid of hunting pressure?

tropic stump
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Just kill stuff elsewhere

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It'll disappear over time

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Also the birds don't react to hunting pressure, if you didn't already know that

last hemlock
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welp

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so I shot all over the north of the starter tutorial point

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and the tutorial deer pressure is still there

stark ingot
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You might need to kill thing further out

wicked moat
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Or kill more before it completely disappears.

last hemlock
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I just ran around the right sector and some of it dissappeared

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the tower by the center lodge of balmont pressure dissapeared

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although the area by the lake got pink because I shot 2 moose and 2 whitetail there

last hemlock
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How many tents can be placed per reserve?

tropic stump
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I haven't ran into a limit yet, so I'd assume it's quite a high amount

last hemlock
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👀

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so 3 in every sector of Layton is possible?

tropic stump
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I'll try place a bunch next time I play, could very well be

last hemlock
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hmm

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So basically

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I just need to have 1 tent that takes up space

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then I can have the others that don't take up any?

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that might explain how you can have crazy amounts of ammo

tropic stump
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Yup

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But you need the same color of tent, so they stack

last hemlock
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any tips for the bear mission?

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from the bear guy

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with the picture of two bears

rustic raven
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just take 2 pics of bears i guess lol

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head to a bear need zone

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personally i find alot of bears in those three areas

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that dip in roonachee bottom left has tons of bears

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if you bring a distressed fawn caller you can easily call two bears into 1 place

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atleast for me

last hemlock
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level 17 rip

rustic raven
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oof

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i could help

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this is my steam feel free to friend me if you want my help

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i myself havent done the mission so

low cosmos
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sup

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need sum help

hazy sluice
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I think you should first say with what you need help

low cosmos
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mission

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in parque

stark ingot
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which one ?

low cosmos
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gold mine

bold patrol
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That mission is bugged @low cosmos

low cosmos
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what to do then? @bold patrol

bold patrol
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nothing except wait for the dev team to get back from holidays and fix it

hollow geyser
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How do I find the spreadsheet with the integrity of different guns?

tropic stump
hollow geyser
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Thank you @tropic stump

stark ingot
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hmmmm

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ive gotta kill 2 boar from a ground blind

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theres no need zones in the field of view

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any tips for bringing bear in closer to i can shoot them ?

rustic raven
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caller

tropic stump
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Try not being prepared to hunt bears at all, maybe even being half-AFK, that's usually when I find them 🙃

hazy sluice
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how do you save your game to continue on another reserve?

tropic stump
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Your game autosaves, you can switch reserves at any point by opening your map and hitting H (or the equivalent button on your controller, should say which one at the bottom right of the screen) to open the reserve selector @hazy sluice

hazy sluice
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thanks

wicked moat
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Looking for suggestions on which skills to take next. Have one point available at the mo, considering:
Stalker - Weather Prediction L1
Stalker - Wind Prediction L1
Ambusher - Spotting Knowledge L3

Not so sure about the utility of spotting knowledge's "reveal information about how aware the animal is of nearby threats," do the animal animations not indicate their behaviour and alert state already? Is this a separate metric I only access by having the skill, or do I only know this by unlocking the skill?

And how useful is Wind Prediction / what changes exactly does that make?

stark ingot
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I found spotting knowledge more useful. It's not always easy to see how the animal if feeling

stark ingot
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i didnt realise building hunting pressure for the missions would be so much of a pain

wicked moat
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Yeah, I think I agree with you there: weather prediction is useless (makes no difference to me) and unless Wind Prediction improves the degree to which ambient noise hides your movement noise and makes it easier to move during that time, there won't be a meaningful stalk bonus as compared to being able to glass the target and know how they're feeling.

rustic raven
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^

main sluice
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How do I add the need zone icons to my map? I've found a few and I see the notification saying they have been added but when I look on my map I don't see any

tropic stump
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You need to zoom in to see them on the map

main sluice
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Nice, thanks for that

wicked moat
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There are weird zoom levels, gotta fidget it with it a bit just like getting the highlighted mission areas.

tropic stump
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The highlighted mission areas display at any zoom level, but they take some time to load in upon opening the map.

wicked moat
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Interesting. The delay is so severe for me that I have to scroll in to a medium-close or so zoom level before the area displays.

hearty jewel
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should i buy .243 polymer tip bullets

compact knot
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yes

hearty jewel
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thank you i bught the bullets but now my gun wont equip

hazy sluice
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Its a thing you have to set it in your inventory

hazy sluice
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Question: Does antler ratler also work on females?

hazy sluice
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Question 2: Where can I find Water Buffalo on Parque?

tropic stump
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Along the east side of the map

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Just run up or down along the east side and you'll find plenty

hazy sluice
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And antler ranttler only works on males?

tropic stump
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I'm unsure about that, sorry

hazy sluice
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ok

hearty jewel
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how do i equip my gun

tropic stump
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Once you have a gun in your inventory (by moving it there in a weapon cache by an outpost or in a tent) you can open your inventory (Escape or F2 on PC) and select backpack, then drag the weapon to your hotbar. Then you drag the ammo and scope you want on your gun to the gun on the hotbar.

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When you exit out of the menu you should then be able to press the corresponding key (hotbar is numbered, matches the numbers on your keyboard, or you can scroll through them with the mousewheel (unsure about controller, sorry)) to bring out your weapon.

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@hearty jewel

hearty jewel
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i did that

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but it doesnt show

tropic stump
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Are you on PC?

hearty jewel
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yeah

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i got it acually thank you

tropic stump
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Try pressing 'H', it might be holstered

hearty jewel
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i had to press F2

tropic stump
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Ah, there you go 😃

hearty jewel
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thank you apreciate it

tropic stump
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Glad to help

hearty jewel
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will a flashlight scare animals in this game

tropic stump
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I'm fairly certain it does not.

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And I'm not finding anything about it scaring them, so I think it's safe to say it doesn't.

wicked moat
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@hazy sluice : Yes, the antler rattler will bring in does also. Often you'll get the does coming in towards you 'running interference' for a more cautious buck (male) at the back of the pack. I found that on Hirschfelden especially I had to shoot between fallow does to get the buck fairly often.

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As for Q2, water buffalo on Parque, they're pretty common. East side of the map is good, as you've been told already, and I find the north side near that large marsh to be a good area for them. Some of the larger lakes in that "North-Central" area also have considerable herds.

last hemlock
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there's an area to the west

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by the most north lodge

hazy sluice
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Anyone know where to find a lot of mule deer?

plush gust
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Anyone know, can you hit all the targets for the challenge circles with the .223 docent?

last hemlock
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does it have bad drop off?

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some of the targets are 300m away

plush gust
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um not sure how do I find that out?

tropic stump
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You can test it at a shooting range or a wall or something at 300m to see how high you have to aim to hit a set point, then compare that to the results of another rifle

plush gust
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Why does it sound like a pig squealing at night in Parque Fernando?

wicked moat
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@hazy sluice : lots of mule deer all over the center area.

main sluice
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I'm quite new to the game and have been working through the missions but I'm stuck on this one. I have been stalking fox but can't get 200+ meters away because of hills and trees, anyone know a good spot Hirschfelden reserve.

tropic stump
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I think I got that one in one of the larger fields either in the center of the map or a bit off to the west of the center

main sluice
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Ok yeah i see what looks like fields, I've not been there yet so I'll try that. Thanks

hazy sluice
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im stopping with story missions on hirsch because of that

stark ingot
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I looked in the fields for that mission. Got lucky

jagged tartan
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@main sluice find the area from the mission photo. There's a hill to the west overlooking the wind farm. You will get it there but will likely need patience

main sluice
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Thanks for the help, I got lucky and spotted a fox on the edge of a field at 218 meters😄 Did take a lot of patience

rustic raven
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wtf

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.270?

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why does it want you to shoot fox with a 270 lol

sturdy coral
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I was able to get that mission by going to the windmills

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There's a fox need zone up near the water there and it's all pretty open territory

celest steeple
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Any good websites for integrity etc?

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But it's not kept up to date

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I might make my own with the new maps

celest steeple
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How do I pick up hides

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The chair onw

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Nevermind, found it

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If and what blinds scare animals when placing them

main sluice
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The game is unplayable for me at the moment, locks up then shuts down with this message. I played my first 40 hours fault free, not changed anything on my PC. Anyone have ideas how I can fix this?

tropic stump
shut mirage
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still locks up occasionally for me buuuut the game just wont launch if you have a ps4 controller plugged in

queen yarrow
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I have a question; in the shotgun perk tree, "Body Control" basically makes aiming in scope mode faster, right? I mean, it doesn't lag behind like it normally does.

wicked moat
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Yes, you either go into "aim mode" faster or your aim mode is more stable while pivoting. One of the two - forget which is which exactly, but those are the features.

queen yarrow
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Thanks Stas!

queen yarrow
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Also, another question: how precise do we have to be to get the wildlife paparazzi achievement (photograph every trophy animal in Hirsh and Layton)? Like in the missions where we have to be really close but foliage doesn't matter, or...?

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Just wondering if it has more loose standards than the missions.

plush gust
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Is the Grunt Snort caller used to call Bison/Buffalo? On it it says it can attract Blue Wildebeest but none of the callers say they attract Bison/Buffalo

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It seems to work but I don't know if that's just because I use it when they are near or if it's actually calling them to me...

hazy sluice
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Bison cant be attracted

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Its probably just the random sound

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theyre probably curious

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Theyre probably like "The frick is doing that noise, lets look"

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ai very good

last hemlock
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mm

queen yarrow
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Technically, it is possible to attract bison and buffalos. There are two skills that give scents and callers a small, random chance of attracting an animal that isn't normally interested in them. It's how you bring in animals that currently have no callers or scents for 'em.

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Is there a way of tracking our achievement progress? I don't mean Steam statistics on how rare a particular 'chieve is, I mean how many critters are left to complete those "Kill 50 X animals".

plush gust
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LoL @hazy sluice love that, and thank you @queen yarrow

plush gust
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Does anyone know the degradation time on tracks? I would try to figure it out in my game but my FPS are low so time runs differently in my game. I tried looking it up but can't find it anywhere. I would take a guess that it takes 5 min to go from Just Now to Very Fresh to Fresh and so on but I want to be sure.

tropic stump
plush gust
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Oh thank you, where did you find that? I tried doing a search on google but turned up nothing....

tropic stump
plush gust
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OMG thank you thank you thank you! ❤ ❤ ❤

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Those spreadsheets are awesome! They have all the info I've been trying to find.

plush gust
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Should I be using a lvl 2 or lvl 3 ammo on Puma, wondering because on wiki it says they are a lvl 3 animal but when I use my lvl 3 bow ammo I don't get 100% integrity, I get 0....

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I just downed 2 with 100% QK and HB but 0 IB, both with the bearclaw and 600gr arrows

tropic stump
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Arrows are a bit weird with integrity it seems

plush gust
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ah ok figures

compact knot
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you need 420gr for pumas

tropic stump
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I just use a 7mm, which is weapon class 3

queen yarrow
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You have to use the medium arrows for pumas I think, red deer are a class 3 animal but if you have a class 3 arrow it gives no integrity.

compact knot
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600gr for buffalo, bison, and gemsbok

plush gust
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Ok so arrows are different than the rest of the ammo cause 600gr says class 3

queen yarrow
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Yeah but those arrows are really just for the biggest game

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The green / medium ones are ideal for nearly everything in-between small and big game.

plush gust
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ok thanks that's what I needed to know.

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😄

queen yarrow
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@plush gust
With bows you don't have to worry much about using a weaker arrow because their penetration is so high it will still do plenty of damage. Maybe some will take a little longer to kill but that's it. Just don't use a blue arrow on a bison. xD

plush gust
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Ok, I love using the bow, I'm better with it but that's because of the distance needed to hit the animals is much lower than some of the other weapons. I can do ok with a scoped rifle but I don't have any of the class 3 or 4 guns yet so I've been using the bow with the class 3 arrows for those animals. Guess I need to work on getting money for those higher class weapons.

compact knot
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bows are the most fun

plush gust
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I agree, I also am good at archery in RL, so I just tend to use bows in games that have them...lol

queen yarrow
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I like bows but I'm starting to like handguns just as well. They're really powerful and can take easily on animals sometimes bigger than intended for their caliber. Also a weapon to be used under 100m, which I like since I'm more a close-range kind of gal.

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And easy to do heart shots with.

plush gust
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Sounds like me, I prefer close range because I have less chance to miss. lol

queen yarrow
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Handguns are similar to bows in practicality. There's only 3 of them so less fuss on what to pick, the first gun for smaller game, the second for medium and the last for for bigger critters. Not like rifles where there's one for each day of the week, some of them similar in caliber... just a big waste of money to get them all.

compact knot
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I don't like how loud guns are as well they spook everything 250m from you

queen yarrow
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I heard it's only 150m.

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But I wouldn't know.

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The quietest weapon in the game is the recurve bow.

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Managed to hunt with that one without spooking a herd that was 50-100m from me.

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The compound bow is a little noisier than that and the crossbow even more (though less than a normal gun).

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I'm hunting bison with a handgun caliber 2 with a shot straight in the heart, they last about 5 seconds before dropping (max 15m distance) yet the QK sits at 95%~? What gives?

plush gust
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I won't use the crossbow, I don't like them, I haven't played with the recurve bows yet but I will at some point. I just really like using the compound bearclaw.

queen yarrow
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The recurve bow is hard because you have to aim the old-fashioned way. No scope, sight or aim to help you.

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Some people use a crosshair thingie to help

plush gust
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Oh that doesn't bother me so much, though if they work like a recurve does in RL I shouldn't have any issue.

queen yarrow
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Also it only has one type of arrow and it is for class 3 or above animals

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Can't use compound arrows on it

plush gust
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Yeah each bow has their own arrows. Which is part of the reason I have yet to use the recurve. I just hate switching all that stuff out when switching weapons. Right now I have the first 5 quickslots full with my rangefinder, bow, rifle, shotgun, and handgun, in that order, each with a different weapon class ammo. so I can just switch weapons without changing out my ammo.

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the rest have my callers/scents/deployable and such which those get shuffled and changed as needed

queen yarrow
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You're carrying a lot of weapons... do you even have space left for callers and a tent? 😮

plush gust
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yep i do

queen yarrow
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I usually only carry 1-2 guns with me.

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Easier that way´

plush gust
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i have a tent on me at all times and callers for all the animals in the reserve i am in

queen yarrow
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You're using a backpack aren't you?

plush gust
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yep

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lol

queen yarrow
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That explains it, I don't use any

last hemlock
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why I did not get a license for 3 months membership at all because I've been so un-active and has gone to waste it

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?

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i am sad

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😦

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😢

queen yarrow
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Wrong game

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This is CoTW not Classic

wicked moat
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@plush gust : Don't you find the backpacks to really mess up any kind of under-150m stalking?

plush gust
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@wicked moat Actually now that you mention it it could be why I have trouble now getting close to the animals...I'll have to take my pack off that i've been using and change out some stuff and see if it changes.

compact knot
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I use to bring the 45-70 and a bow that's it

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then a bunch of callers

wicked moat
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It's definitely a factor; packs make you louder and easier to spot. I usually bring two weapons, ammunition for both, optics (rangefinder/binocs/both), appropriate lures for the reserve I'm in, and sometimes a blind or tent but not always. I have scent blocker and the aid kit usually, also.

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Often I carry a shotgun because the different ammo types let you deal with Class 0 to Class 3 targets. The same is true of bows.

plush gust
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If I rest, like in a tent close to an area where I know animals usually are at a set time, and wake up around the time the animals should be in that area will they be? Trying to figure out how to set myself up for a buffalo hunt. I have a spot that they always seem to be at multiple times a day but waiting is...boring so I want to try and get the time as close as possible so I don't have to wait to long

wicked moat
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If the wind doesn't shift on you so it's blowing across your killzone and spooking the animals, yes, that would work. I usually camp a ways away from where I want to hunt and then based on the wind, approach the target area accordingly.

plush gust
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Ok cool I thought it would work like that but so far I've not had to much luck with it

wicked moat
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Sometimes I've had deer right outside the tent. There's probably some kind of spawn radius factor to consider; I consider close to be ~250m or so, if I were right on top of a need zone I don't think it would work.

queen yarrow
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@plush gust
Yeah, in this game backpacks aren't really worth it because their cons are a lot more consequential than their benefits. You're more visible and audible to critters, even when standing still, so for close-range hunting you're shooting yourself in the foot with a backpack. It's a way of punishing you for not packing lighting and being more practical with your setup.

And yeah, diamonds aren't just rare, they're also the hardest animals to hunt because of how aware they are and how likely they are of just running away as soon as they -think- you're there. They don't give warnings, one or two mistakes and they're gone. They're not as responsive to callers and scents once alerted as well, so you can't just wait for them to return like with other animals.

queen yarrow
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How do we complete the Blind Shot achievement? It's one where we have to hit an animal that is barely visible. I heard it involves bushes but does the critter have to be in them or behind them?

last hemlock
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not sure

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I hit the legendary marksman luckily on a whitetail deer

queen yarrow
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I'm not even sure I'm going to be able to get that one given the game doesn't render animals past 400m anymore.

queen yarrow
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So, for those of you who don't know, apparently in order to get the Blind Shot Achievement you need to shoot an animal at least 150m, at night. Just need to land the shot, no kill necessary.

wicked moat
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Need some guidance on the Hirschfelden Bhandari #8 mission.

Mission OBJ:

  • Travel to the bridge at Ernsdorf
  • Harvest a hurt bison downed with a handgun
queen yarrow
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I did that one not too long ago, may be able to help.

wicked moat
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So I read that as "go to Ernsdorf bridge, find the injured bison, kill it with a handgun," which if you haven't been handgun hunting and so have decent ammo unlocked is gonna be the opposite of humane, but that's not the point: I did all this, got the bison, harvested the bison... aaand mission did not complete.

queen yarrow
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Probably need to kill it within the area (some missions allow you to go beyond that).
Exit your game and re-enter, wait a little, it will respawn the bison.

wicked moat
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Good to know. It may have run outside of the mission box.

queen yarrow
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Killing a bison with the first handgun is a real challenge though, you need at least the .44 to do some damage. The bison is wounded so it doesn't have as much HP but it is still tough.

wicked moat
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It took three .357 solid projos (instead of the JHP default) to put it down with 2x thoracic spine + lung hits and one skull + brain + neck shot.

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But yeah it did go down. Just only after running out of the mission box I suppose.

queen yarrow
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Yeah, some of the bison missions aren't as finicky with the mission area. Nevertheless, when it comes to missions, exiting the game and re-entering allows those animals to re-spawn... just have to wait a little sometimes.

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My tip is to try and get the bison to charge you and then fill him with bullets... it's very unethical and will give a terrible score but hopefully it will go down faster.

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ALSO

wicked moat
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Yes.

queen yarrow
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I think only your first shot has to be from a handgun

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the rest can be with any other weapon

wicked moat
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That is good to know. What I will do next time is make a better approach and double lung him.

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This time I just walked over the bridge hey-diddle-diddle straight down the middle and wnet "Oh hai the bison."

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Because for whatever reason I didn't think he'd be hanging out in the middle of the road like that.

queen yarrow
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Yeah, he's right by the bridge

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Try shooting him first with the handgun and then finishing with other weapon. I've heard it worked for other people in other missions

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Borderline exploit buuuut.... ya know. 😛

wicked moat
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Yup, I've done that before. In this case the .357 solid cast are enough with 50pen to hit vitals, so I'll practice with that instead of going for a quick switch and trying to .338 him or something while he's running away / rushing me.

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Thanks for the guidance on the whole reboot and wait mission reset.

queen yarrow
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Np

quartz rock
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What is the max weight for mule deer?

hazy sluice
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idk but the min to get a diamond is around 197

quartz rock
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Ok, thanks

plush gust
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If I want to be in a need area before the animals get there how much time should I give myself before they are estimated to show. Is an hour enough or will they be to close at that point? I can't seem to figure it out I always end up being there either just as they are getting there or after they are already in the area.

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This dang water buffalo herd is giving me hell. I'm now on day 3 of trying to get in front of them so I can get close enough to the leader. He's a Mythical and my Moby Dick.

queen yarrow
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In my experience animals can show up at any time around a need zone so I tend to ignore the hours it indicates and just visit the area on occasion. If you want to go by the tool tip, the rule of thumb is to prep a good half-hour to 1 hour earlier, depending on how long you take to get there. Also setting up tents scares pretty much anything on a 150-200 radius so good keep that in mind.

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And you need an albino DEER for moby dick, not a buffalo.

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@plush gust

plush gust
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@queen yarrow thanks for the help I will try getting to the area about an hour before.

Also I was just referring to his elusiveness, I didn't know that there was an actual Moby dick thing in game. Lol

queen yarrow
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Yeah it's an achievement, need to harvest an albino deer to unlock it. 😛

plush gust
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Haha ok, I had no clue about that one. I looked the achievements over but didn't pay to close attention to them. I get most of them by chance lol

bold patrol
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i have a question for the parque fernando trophy lodge, do the diamonds have to be taken down only on single player or can they be harvested on your multiplayer map?

celest steeple
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to get a diamond does it have to be it's max level?

hazy sluice
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Yes

celest steeple
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thought so

proud mist
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Not always

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Wildebeest and kudu (at least used to) have a decent shot at being diamonds at "Easy"

hazy sluice
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easy is what level? in numbers

last hemlock
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5-medium

proud mist
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Easy is 4

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Most of my kudu/wildebeest have been 4's, but I've seen 5's

wicked moat
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Does the visibility indicator adjust at all for illumination? I know it adjusts (especially if you have perks to make you harder to see in the rain, for example) for weather, but does night mean anything besides making life harder on you?

vivid scaffold
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anybody know why parque fernando has no animals i actually thought the game was bugged. or can you explain how to hunt in parque fernando

last hemlock
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@vivid scaffold that's a glitch on your part, I can't step out of a tent without getting barreled over by something being chased by a puma

vivid scaffold
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i reloaded and the same thing

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i went 2km without seeing a single animal

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me and my buddy were crouch walking so like we didnt spook anything

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i dont understand it lmfao im in the savanna and i see huge migrations and everything but in parque fernando there's nothing

last hemlock
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its a glitch on your part

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either that or too much pressure

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🤷

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like if you hunted PF before you had the dlc

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the pressure from the other players on the MP will go to your server when you boot it up in SP

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I have pressure in VH from the north part from the MP I played before I had it

vivid scaffold
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i dont think it was the pressure because i play with my friend everyday on this game and in every map we hunt in the south but in parque fernando we decided to hunt in the north this time

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and yeah nothing for a long time

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ever

celest steeple
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When you buy one of those stands in the open does the construction of it scare animals like the tents and blinds do?

queen yarrow
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@celest steeple
Yup. Sometimes I'd get warning calls nearly instantly after setting up those structures.

rustic raven
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never got it

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set one up 150 yards from a red deer

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didnt care

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called it right in to the stand

celest steeple
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man im so confused as to what bullet type to use and when to use it

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poly or soft

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i saw online poly is better for long range and soft is better for close

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that just doesn't seem right

compact knot
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Why?

celest steeple
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why what

queen yarrow
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@celest steeple
There's only one type of ammo currently worth the investment in this game; high-penetration rounds. The idea behind expansion is to bleed your target to death, unfortunately, anything with enough 'oomf' to pierce both lungs is still going to be deadlier than a relatively high bleeding rate. The idea is to drop the animal on it's tracks, or close to it, expansion rounds aren't for that.

Also, they require a bit more precision when aiming to do any 'real' damage; hit a bone and that's going to be a flesh wound, hit the non-vitals and you're going to be tracking that animal for a while, hit the vitals and it still doesn't guarantee a good kill bonus. I've managed to drop fallow in 2-3 seconds using the .357 (class 1) and bison in 5 seconds with the .44 (class 2). How? Penetration rounds to the heart.

I would have never been able to pull that off with their measly expansion rounds.

wicked moat
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I also use exclusively high penetration rounds because a double lung puncture is better than an exploded single lung; and you're much more likely to hit something vital especially on a moving target.

In terms of ballistic science the game is garbage. Representation of projectiles with v-loss, wind, intermediate barriers, terminal effects, all of this is just "lol, no", so don't look for an intuitive understanding of what's going on. There's the game systems, which are consistent (except when they change something and suddenly a class two is too much for class two animals because reasons) and, with the exception of class zero targets, you're gonna want the pen.

Realistically speaking the notion that a poly tip is better than a soft tip is bullshit, both are modern spitzer projectiles out of modern MOA-or-better hunting rifles and we can't fire past 400 because animals don't render beyond that anyway, so "ballistic capped" polymer tipped projos would mean jack shit. Don't worry about ranges other than what you can precisely hit vitals at.

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Just today I confirmed this for myself by using .357 solid cast bullets; I messed up my stalk by losing track of my target through some brush, spooked him accidentally, and reflexively shot him through the torso because I play too many FPS and that's center mass on a fleeting target. I had been trying for a central nervous system shot, which is why I wanted the solid cast loaded. Previously I'd have gone for a lung with .357 hollowpoints. The round went through one lung, stomach, liver, and intestines and he fell over 75m away from the first blood spoor.

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"Kebab skewer" for the win, in short. At least with how ballistics and terminal ballistics is currently modelled.

celest steeple
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im getting fuck all penetration on gemsbok with polymers though

queen yarrow
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@celest steeple
What weapon are you using to hunt gemsbok? They're a class 3 animal, on par with red deer and bears. .270 poly rounds should drop them on their tracks, same as the .44 revolver, just aim for the heart.

celest steeple
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@queen yarrow 7mm, going to spine shots and keep getting flesh wounds

compact knot
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Could be hitting shoulder blade

celest steeple
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The trajectory of the arrow is aiming for the spine when j harvest it though

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Yeah sometimes I do but I didn't realise it does so mucb

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Much

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Does it really slow down the bullet that much

queen yarrow
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Yeah, don't aim for the shoulder if you're doing spine hits.

rustic raven
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i never seem to hit animals in the heart

queen yarrow
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They're easy, at least on deer.

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And bison to some extent

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It helps to take a good look at the harvest screen. Place your mouse at the heart and switch between x-ray and live mode

celest steeple
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I know where most of the hearts are I just find it easier to go for spines

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It's only gemsbok I struggle on though

queen yarrow
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Do the same thing I suggested kernal, when you harvest one, place your mouse where you want to hit in the future and let it spin (x-ray or live mode) to get the angles right.

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Eventually you'll get the hang of it

plush gust
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Is it possible to catch up to an animal by following it's Very Old tracks?

compact knot
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Yes, but I wouldn't bother unless it's diamond potential

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I just run around waiting for a call tbh

plush gust
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I am doing the mission where I have to spot 3 different fur colors, I have a hard time finding them but found a cinnamon and blonde trail both very old but I figured I got nothing else to do why not?

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plus i have an atv so if the trail doesn't got to crazy I can get closer faster maybe

autumn sparrow
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@plush gust I have found that it's easier to leave the mission on the side and do another one. Next time you see a bear, just spot it, and eventually you'll complete that mission. It didn't take me long to get them, even when not actively trying to get the mission. Also, the ATV has a crazy spook distance, so any and all bears will run for the hills long before you even get them in view.

plush gust
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@autumn sparrow Ok cool, thanks for the tip on the ATV, I hadn't considered that lol...

autumn sparrow
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@plush gust Yeah no problem. I know from experience since I have tried to outrun animals in the ATV. They're speedy little devils, I can assure you.

wicked moat
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And more agile and you'll drive them up somewhere the ATV won't go

proud mist
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I sort of just followed the western side of the map myself, where I usually find bears in said area that is

queen yarrow
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@plush gust
Track age isn't 100% reliable because sometimes animals stop by need zones and stay there for a while, you'd be thinking they're far away only to stumble upon them in the next corner. Similarly, very fresh tracks become redundant when the animal is on the run, as by the time you get to the next one it probably already covered a good distance.

Personally I'd use a caller every once in a while to see if I can pin-point their location or at least proximity.

queen yarrow
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Trying to do Doc #22; harvest a whitetail around Balmont Lake at at least 75m. Thing is... there's no whitetails in that mission area, only blacktails. Bug? Intended? Or just bad luck?

tawny plinth
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I've seen some whitetails there before, they just aren't quite as common as the Blacktail are there

queen yarrow
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Bad luck then

compact knot
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Whitetails and blacktails are rare for me all I see is moose and bears

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Really don't like layton

queen yarrow
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Do you spot a lot of moose and bears?

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Because I've heard that the animals you spot have higher chances of spawning in that area than the rest.

compact knot
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I spot them a lot because it's all I see, I normally just do river runs

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Rarely away from the river

queen yarrow
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Ah, I usually trek all over, rivers, mountains or fields, I'm everywhere so I tend to find all sorts of critters. Except the ones needed for missions... it's like they know and go into hiding.

wicked moat
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Interesting that the spotting influences it.

neat thistle
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Start at the outpost just south of the lake. Then head left and there are usually some whitetail around the mountain that has the little split gap in between it. Use you lure to draw them down to the zone for the mission.

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I went to the north of that mountain and called a bit then as I was heading up, a herd started to come down.

heavy dome
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Recently started playing, and i noticed i have two calls in my inventory already. However, i dont know what animals theyre for, can anyone help me out?

shrewd hare
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Roe deer caller is for roe deer and deer bleat caller is for whitetail, blacktail and mule deer

heavy dome
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How do i know which one is which though?

shrewd hare
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Roes can be found in Hirschfelden and white & blacktail in Layton

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You can check their names from inventory 😃

heavy dome
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Oh, derp lol

shrewd hare
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Also they say in the inventory which species they attract

heavy dome
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So, second question: im really struggling with hitting anything i see, is there a better way to calculate the trajectory then just "aim and hope for the best" (which is all i can do rn)

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Is it just something that you learn to estimate after awhile?

shrewd hare
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You can buy rangefinder after a while which you can use to check the distance and I'd also suggest to visit the firing range in Hirsch to get an idea how the gun handles different distances 😃

heavy dome
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Ah, ok, didnt realise there was a firing range, perfect

shrewd hare
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But at the beginning I wouldn't worry about it too much really. Explore and have fun!

heavy dome
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So, uh, just checked my map. Where is hirsch lol

shrewd hare
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The range is in the bottom right corner of the map. There is like an island so you need to run there. But will be able to fast travel once you visit it.

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Lol you started in Layton? Open the map and press H to open reserve selection

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Oh yea they changed the first map to be Layton awhile back. It was Hirsch before 😄

heavy dome
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Yeah i started in layton

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Ah ok

shrewd hare
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But you can change between the reserves anytime

heavy dome
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Hirschfelden is the name of the reserve? Im not seeing it on the list of reserves

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Nvm

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Map was being weird

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Found it

shrewd hare
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Awesome! 😃

heavy dome
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Now if i could just get a blacktail or whitetail at night, id be set

shrewd hare
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They are in Layton and really common. Should not be too hard to come across some. Lakes are good areas to check out. Good view distance and lots of needzones.

heavy dome
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Yeah, ive seen a few, just keep missing my shots lol

shrewd hare
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Animals don't care about the headlight so use if when need to check tracks at night

heavy dome
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Ah ok, was wondering about that

shrewd hare
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That happens to everyone! If I remember right the started weapon is zeroed to 150m by default.

heavy dome
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Oh, wow, 150? Maybe thats why i was missing, mlst of my shots have been ~40m id say lol

shrewd hare
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That's possible 😄 I remember missing a lot when I started too but you get used to them 😃 And if you want to know the right range then firing range is your friend.

heavy dome
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Yeah, definitely gonna check that range out

shrewd hare
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And later you will open zeroing skill which will help a lot

heavy dome
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Are the compounds any good, or should i stick to rifles? Id love to use a bow, but not if its going to be hurting my chances

shrewd hare
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Personally I love the bows most and they are awesome weapons. But need animals to come close! But yes, they are really good.

heavy dome
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Ah ok, nice

shrewd hare
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So it's up to you what you want to do and what to unlock 😃

heavy dome
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Alright, thanks for all the help!

shrewd hare
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Glad to help! Have fun and happy hunting 😃

celest steeple
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does anyone know when they'll add challenges for the two newest maps to multiplayer?

vestal cipher
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Does anyone knof of a good time and place in Spreeberg on Hirschfelden to hunt red fox with a bow?

shrewd hare
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Foxes are night animals but I've had best luck early mornings like 3-6am

vestal cipher
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Did you find them in like a certain spot

shrewd hare
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Been awile since I hunt them but not really. Wandering around and picking tracks and need zones.

celest steeple
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just chase them down you can outrun them if you're doing that annoying bow mission

shrewd hare
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True haha

vestal cipher
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I cant find them thats the problem

compact knot
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Only call once when calling them in they take a long time to come in but they will come in at some point

wicked moat
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Foxes will circle around to check downwind of what they're sensing, too, so be sure to be in a very well hidden position with a good line of sight from that point.

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The scent may not spook them (it will higher level animals but you just need any fox for that mission, n00b-foxes count) but it will put them on alert and then if they see you they'll bolt.

vestal cipher
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If im in a blind will they not sense me

wicked moat
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Look at your indicators: if you're moving too much or too fast they might hear you, but they shouldn't see you. IIRC, blinds also reduce scent by something like 20-33%, so they shouldn't spook because they smell you until they're a lot closer.

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Someone else will know better than I do on that last point.

vestal cipher
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I hate this mission

hollow geyser
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Hey I’m on Xbox 1 and I bought a backpack to move duck decoys, it allowed me to put the backpack on but now I can’t take it off and it makes it really hard to hunt for a level 23 player. If anyone knows how to fix it plz tell me

vestal cipher
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You should be able to take it off like how you put it on

hollow geyser
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@vestal cipher I tried it didn’t work

vestal cipher
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I dont know then, Im a pc player

vestal cipher
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I got my fox

rustic raven
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congrats!

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still haven't done that mission haha

vestal cipher
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It helps to have a map of the animal locations

celest steeple
stable pier
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So I shot a decent moose and it showed the hunting pressure so I know I killed it. It was a high bleed rate and the health said 0-25 on the blood spot in the picture. But the tracts ended right there I searched and searched but found nothing. I went to the outpost then came back to see if it would load in. Nothing changed. :/ can anyone tell me why this might be happening?

rustic raven
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might have run off into the bushes

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ive had tracks stop while the animal goes off and dies

proud mist
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^

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It might also somehow fall into water or shoot off in some random direction, but only had that happen on Medved here

stable pier
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It's wierd tho cause I searched all over and still couldn't find it

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It was a level 4 too

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:/

rustic raven
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level 4 aint diamond

stable pier
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I don't have any diomands yet and I like got the game like 3 weeks ago

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So any money is a help

rustic raven
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ive owned it since launch day and i only got 1 diamond

stable pier
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2019?

rustic raven
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dunno

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leme check

stable pier
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Like the 2019 version

rustic raven
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no

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i dont own the 2019 edition

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all it is is a bundle

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im talking when the game firstcame out

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i got it like 2 hours after it came out

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2017 i think

stable pier
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Oh

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I bought the 2019 cause I thought it was newer

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Well rip &44

celest steeple
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I just got my first diamond at around 70 hours

heavy dome
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Does hitting an animal with an atv damage them?

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Ah, and here i thought i was being smart aiming for the giant buck running towards me lol

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So, for coyotes, i know it says theyre nocturnal, but ive seen them walking around in the daytime too. Would my chances be much better trying to hunt at night instead of day?

compact knot
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I'd do early morning instead

heavy dome
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Whats the best way do go about it? For blacktail, i usually walk into the wind, and just go until i hear a call, then i use my lure and wait for them to come. Same idea for coyotes?

compact knot
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Pretty much

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Coyotes take longer to come in though and could come in from anywhere completely different to where it called from

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So gotta be patient

heavy dome
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Ah ok

compact knot
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You gonna use a bow?

heavy dome
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Ive got a bow, and a .270

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Not sure which to use

teal breach
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Where are the reindeer on Zverolova hill

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Federal eco service #8

proud mist
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@teal breach I usually find them out on the ice or in the forest near where you fix a bridge

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Took me a while to find enough however

heavy hamlet
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how do callers work in this game? it seems like animals are ignoring them

plush gust
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Is there really a difference in Nenet Reindeer and Wild Reindeer? Cause I'm not seeing anything to different...Maybe I'm missing it?

tawny plinth
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It says so when you spot them

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You just have to be in the right area for it and it's a one time thing for the mission

compact knot
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nenet are owned by the natives

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wild reindeer have no owners

last hemlock
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hello, guys!

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i need a bit of help but i might need a dev or a moderator for the topic in question

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actually, you know what, maybe not

plush gust
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@tawny plinth Ok so once I do that for the mission I don't have to worry about which is which I can freely hunt any I come across?

tawny plinth
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Yes, you don't have to worry about them anymore

heavy dome
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What should i be using for coyotes, a .270 or a bow? Not sure how you guys figure out what to use

shrewd hare
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,243 is good from rifles

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270 is too big and won't give integrity

heavy dome
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Ah ok, ill switch it out then

queen yarrow
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The .223 is a varmint rifle so should be good for coyotes.

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Or just use the .357 handgun... or 300g arrows.

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Or just fire them all at once and hope one does the trick. 😛

heavy dome
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Something else im wondering, when i turn my camera i can hear branches and stuff breaking, but my noise meter doesnt go up. Can animals still be spooked by that?

queen yarrow
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Nope.

heavy dome
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Oh ok, i was always super nervous about looking around because i thought they wouldhear me and run off lol

queen yarrow
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If it doesn't register on the visibility or noise meter then you're fine.

heavy dome
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Alright, good to know

celest steeple
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is this my save file i got to back up?

shrewd hare
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I copy the whole theHunter Call Of The Wild folder to cloud every once in a while

rustic raven
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is the trailblazer out yet?

compact knot
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Literally just come out this second

heavy hamlet
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umm Im totally new to cotw, comming from classic and i wonder what is the point of hunter mate here ? what does it do ?

compact knot
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You don't really need the huntermate in cotw

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It can help you to follow tracks but I normally don't use it

heavy hamlet
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btw - is there a way to mark the animal or spot via binoculars on map ? like in classic

queen yarrow
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Not really but if you use the binos and "spot" them it will indicate on the map (or huntermate if close enough) where it was last seen.

heavy hamlet
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really? i think I already tried that but with no success. I spotted the animal but was not marked on map... will try again

queen yarrow
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You have to zoom in for it to show I think

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It's a green icon with a boar in it

heavy hamlet
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ah yea

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thnx

teal breach
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any tips on diamond hunting in Parque

celest steeple
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run as fast as you can

shrewd hare
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Gather need zones, kill males from the zones but don't kill more than 3 in same spot so hunting pressure won't delete the zone. The males will spawn back but might spawn as bigger ones. Explore a lot and keep eyes out for big tracks which you can follow. Not much else you can do. Get lucky? haha

celest steeple
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@teal breach use my sheet so you got basic diamond info and you can see what gun is best for what animal

queen yarrow
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@celest steeple
I just noticed something on your PF spreadsheet. 300g arrows give zero integrity on the cinnamon teal? That must be a first, usually those are ideal for rabbits and fowl...

celest steeple
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let me test

celest steeple
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@queen yarrow Fixed, thanks for the heads up

queen yarrow
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Np 😃

compact knot
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Couldn't get it to work @queen yarrow

queen yarrow
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Aw, that sucks :/ I wish there was a way for me to give you the folder directly

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that would have made things easier

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@compact knot

compact knot
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Yeah, thanks for helping anyway. I've started a new game and have done the ammo glitch so that's something lol

queen yarrow
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@compact knot
For the record, it is a good idea to make a backup of your saves every once in a while, to avoid these situations. It's in the place I told you before, just copy that folder and place it elsewhere for safekeeping.

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I mean your actual saves not the ones I sent you. 😛

compact knot
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Yeah, will do

proud mist
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@queen yarrow @compact knot Did you use the player.something file?

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I KNOW it should work in the case of lost/corrupted saves, even if you have hit new game

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Restores stats but replaces your gear, perks, skills and money with the original files owners

queen yarrow
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@proud mist
No, I compressed my whole save folder unto a 7zip and sent it to Fred but they were having issues on their end on how to use it.

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I wanted to send the folder as is to facilitate things but discord doesn't allow it.

proud mist
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Ahhhh

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Sent them my file directly just now so we'll see how that goes

rustic raven
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what are good medved tent spots?

queen yarrow
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What animal class are the lions at?

compact knot
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Well you can keep integrity with the 470 I think

heavy hamlet
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where do i get/go to shooting range ?

shrewd hare
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There is one in Hirschfelden bottom right corner

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Like a separated island. And archery range is in Parque Fernando

stark ingot
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i look forward to hunting a lion but im gonna have to wait until they are out of beta

queen yarrow
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Not sure whether to be impressed or worried; there's a surprising lack of critical reports regarding the beta... either it's more fine-tuned than before or there's not enough people thoroughly testing it to be certain.

teal breach
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Out of curiosity, would you guys mind if they replaced mule deer in Fernando with fallow

queen yarrow
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I wouldn't mind but then where would you place the mule deer? In the overpopulated Layton reserve?

teal breach
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How about a Wyoming map

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Bison, mulies, pronghorn, etc

rustic raven
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^ this

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bighorn too

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jackrabbit

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and geese

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or pumas too but

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alot of recycling

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grizzly wolf

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do u mean grizzly bear and wolf

bold patrol
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is there a way to "reset" a map at all? including all the missions and such?

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im tired of this constant rain on fernando from the goldmine mission and i want to play on it badly, but the rain annoys me so muchthat im driven away from it

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i would, if the mission wasnt bugged :P

bold patrol
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i can unload my entire stock of ammo on it and it still just sits there

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im surprised this bug hasnt been fixed considering the impact it has on the map

slow zenith
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It worked for me when I shot from closer range

tepid prairie
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Yeah just stand on it 😂

celest steeple
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How worth is scent remover

young star
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I have the same question as @celest steeple . Is the scent remover a bit of god-mode no scent equipment or is there a scale/randomness to how well it works?

last hemlock
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from what I've seen

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sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't

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sprayed myself twice to make sure and I still spooked a bear by staying absolutely still

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in the brush

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no raised vision or sound indicators

celest steeple
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My guess is that it depends on the animal difficulty

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And how good that animals sense of smell is in the first place

queen yarrow
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@celest steeple @young star
The scent eliminator doesn't make you undetectable, it merely masks a portion of your scent so you can get closer to your prey before it runs away. It's definitely not a "god-mode" tool for laziness or sloppy hunting.

To clarify, animals will still be able to smell when from downwind, specially if they have good noses or have already been alerted to your presence. Using scent lures, the scent eliminator and the layout blind (from geese DLC) should, in theory, wield better results when hunting under these circumstances.

The blind covers about 20% of your scent (according to it's stats) which combined with the scent eliminator (unknown number) and the scent lures (theory is they can somewhat conceal your scent from that particular species), means you should have a wider time frame to get a good shot... better use long ranged weapons in these situations though.

Don't forget, hunting upwind is still more efficient and practical than all these things combined.

heavy hamlet
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I have a rather odd question about mallard DLC - do I need to get the DLC in order to see and kill ducks? Or is DLC just for lures, shotguns and blinds ?

shrewd hare
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Just for the shotgun, lures and blinds. You can still see ducks in water and shoot them with the shotguns which come with the game. It's just more efficient to hunt them with the dlc.

compact knot
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It's hard to sneak up on the ducks and take a shot, they spook easily

heavy hamlet
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@compact knot is this a subliminal hint for me to buy the missing map?

compact knot
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If you wanna hunt ducks then you gotta get the dlc, it's pretty cheap tho.

rustic raven
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ye its like 4 dollars

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worth it

heavy hamlet
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dammit guys .. you are like a little devils on my left shoulder ...

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whispering in my ear ... spend spend spend 😃

rustic raven
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spend

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spend spend

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on

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duck dlc

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Add all DLC to Cart

heavy hamlet
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who's gonna feed my kids? the meat I hunt down in COTW is too hard to chew for them

autumn sparrow
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@heavy hamlet I actually like using the goose DLC shotgun on ducks, and it works pretty well. Plus, ducks aren't the sharpest creatures, so they won't see you coming if you sneak through the reeds 😈 seriously though, COTW DLCs can get pretty pricy

rustic raven
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3$ is cheap

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especially compared to classic

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5$ for a gun

autumn sparrow
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@rustic raven It's not the individual purchases that are pricy, it's when they add up

heavy hamlet
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kernal is right ... I've played classic (still do), that's the real money sink ...so i guess eventually I'll get the missing dlc ...

autumn sparrow
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@heavy hamlet Not counting gun purchases, any game where you have to pay to keep accessing the content (at least the majority) is already a money sink 😂

celest steeple
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how much do backpacks affect you?

nova goblet
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in my experience (which was a while ago) a lot, and are generally not worth the extra space for the sheer amount they increase noise and visibility

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even the smallest pack is enough to make hunting extremely difficult to do

proper sable
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backpacks really could do with reworking . too much penalty for use makes them in general a waste of time to use.

celest steeple
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I bought the smallest one and standing still is one bar of sound

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One fucking bar

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What the hell

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Standing completely still

teal breach
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Oh yea I hate backpacks

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But I use them because I need to fit all the good guns

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for some maps

wicked moat
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Is there anything along the trail in the North East of the Norden subsector of Layton Lakes?

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Basically the NE corner of the Northern Ridge sector/area. There's nearly 2km of trail that links Norden Eastern and Norden Northern outposts, but no indication there's anything along it except maybe easter eggs.

autumn sparrow
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Yeah, tons of jackrabbits and elk. That's where I do most of my elk hunting, actually

wicked moat
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Northern Outpost does have a lot of elk around it, but I approached it from the West. Cool, good to know it's a good hide for elk.

autumn sparrow
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Well, everyone's map is different, so keep that in mind 😉

wicked moat
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I didn't realize there was that much variability in animal placements: exact locations of need zones being different makes all the sense, but that some areas would have totally different populations is a different thing.

proud mist
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That longass road there tends to have some half decent bear spawns as well but the terrain is iffy

queen yarrow
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Yeah, a maps' population and animal concertation tend to change from person to person. It depends on how you treat it; if you over-hunt or try to be careful. Also spotting influences how often you're likely to encounter said species.

wicked moat
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So anybody publishing maps of general animal areas is full of shit then?

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I am not talking about need zones specifically, I am talking about areas in which those zones can spawn and which type of zones.

queen yarrow
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No, those are alright.

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Because, despite maps being a little different for everyone, there are some things that remain equal for all.

wicked moat
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That's what I was saying.

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So general guidance like the 2km area NE in Norden having elk/bear/jackrabbits is fine.

proud mist
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Plateu in Vurhonga being hare heaven

queen yarrow
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Yeah, though a beginner may have a different experience because maps need time to grow and to spawn animals in further regions.

autumn sparrow
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There's actually one post on steam that everyone keeps sending pics on discord of, though everyone knows about it already, it's so publicized. I think the user was something along the lines of Xi Law, and it's got general tips on where to find animals on all maps

wicked moat
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Yes, and if you're zipping everywhere in an ATV unlocking Outposts then maps tend to look very barren

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Yes, that's exactly the reference I was just about to Google to show you what I meant by the difference between "general areas in which animals will spawn" and specifically maps of need zones, which will differ from player to player.

autumn sparrow
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However, there are certain zones on each map that are guaranteed to be the same across the playerbase (Willipeg for blacktail, that giant lake on the eastern side of Medved for moose and reindeer, etc.)

queen yarrow
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Yeah, I feel like each region have their own "theme" when it comes to animals. Rinderland is the hotstop for bison for example.

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And Rotwald for red deer

autumn sparrow
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^and Tichenau for bison too

queen yarrow
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Rinderland includes tichenau 😛

autumn sparrow
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my bad

last hemlock
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Can I get a diamond axis deer with a .270?

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thanks

near haven
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@autumn sparrow @queen yarrow @wicked moat - thanks for your discussion on this and the spawning. Learnt some stuff! I was particularly interested in how you were saying that beginners need time before the maps populate more readily. I'm suprised there isn't a pinned post in this channel for "Beginner claims there is no animals" or "beginner doesn't see tons of deer like on those youtube videos" type helpful factoids 😄

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I sometimes crawl on my belly from one place to another with autorun and it still doesn't see anymore animals (eliminating or de-risking most of the sound / sight / smell aspects)

queen yarrow
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Can anyone confirm whether or not Wind Prediction (last tier on Stalker) actually reduces your noise whenever the wind picks up?

rustic raven
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^

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this

autumn sparrow
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@near haven 😉

queen yarrow
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@rustic raven
After doing a more thorough research on Wind Prediction, it seems like it is just a waste of a point. According to the codex and posts from 2017, strong gusts already mask some of the noise you make so all the skill provides is a way to predict when and how much the wind is going to change so you can take advantage of it... similar Weather Prediction for fog and rain.

wicked moat
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Neither of which do anything for you if you pay attention to what the gameworld is doing.

queen yarrow
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Heavy rain and thick fog do affect my visibility, the dilemma here is the wind... I have yet to see it mask my noise. Just climbed a mountain under strong gusts and it didn't do jack, same on fields.

wicked moat
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I don't know if it's a mechanics issue or a GUI issue in that regard. If it's that the GUI indicator for noise does not reduce itself in the presence of high ambient noise (wind) that's one thing, but if the engine models it at all, I can't tell. I haven't noticed a significant difference, but I also haven't done something like "stand up and walk during wind gusts" because usually I've got LoS on an animal and don't want them to see me standing up even when the wind is up... and even if it is modelled, if that's your tactical circumstance most of the time (as it is for me), then it's kind of a moot point.

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I would still like to know if night matters for anything other than the player. It's not clear; a lot of animals have better night vision than humans but not all of them.

queen yarrow
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I don't think night affects animals.

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The only thing I've heard night doing is that it increases the chances of rares showing up.

wicked moat
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I'll believe that. I've seen higher level animals at night and into early dawn in the appropriate night time feed zones than I have during the day.

queen yarrow
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I mean, even if the dark did something it all depends on what kind of animal you're up against. Higher difficulty game with good senses will always be harder in general, day or night. Besides, less visibility at night could be countered by noise, as everything's quieter than in the day. At least as far as common sense goes... no idea if that's into the game.

wicked moat
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Yeah, it should reduce your visibility somewhat but this is not indicated on the UI. Animals don't benefit from perfect vision at night: they see better than humans, but they're still affected by the dark. What that means is you should be able to move upright without being spotted instantly from across a 300m wide field.

queen yarrow
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The thing with animal senses is that only of them has to "go off" for the animal to high tail out there.

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So even if they don't see you that far, they will be able to hear you walking around.

wicked moat
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We do have figures on what the "audibility" of movement states is though; one orange bar is only audible/spooks to 100m, is it not?

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Additionally we need some kind of upright slow walk movement mode, because that's how most stalking is done: not as an exercise in quad and glute strength from the crouch. 😉

queen yarrow
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Depends on what you think the max is. My old estimations was that the cap for visibility was 100m, 150m for noise and 200m for scent.

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But it might just be they're all 150m

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Again, i also depends on the animal.

wicked moat
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And the animal's level, yes

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The last figures I heard were that at a full sprint through brush - so maximum noise the GUI indicates with full orange bars - you're spooking everything in a 250m radius.

queen yarrow
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I honestly have no idea... this is one of the things I wish the devs had made clearer from the get go.

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People say that because the ATV scares everything in a 300m radius, and it makes 3 red bars of noise, that means 3 red bars = 300m.

wicked moat
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All of the engine mechanics being clarified would be welcome, especially as they make changes.

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Because I don't know if I'm seeing bugs when things change or if this is an intended change, right?

Yes, that's probably where those numbers came from.

queen yarrow
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That's the thing, 300m is a lot. It doesn't make sense that we running around at full red bars means we're doing as much noise as a quad.

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I'm not wearing cement boots with whistles and bells all over me. I think...

wicked moat
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Right.

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I've noticed from walking around that most areas only have ~100-200m visibility anyway. There are exceptions obviously; when you get on high ground and can see down into nearby fields, so on, you can range out to the render limit at 400m very quickly. Layton Lakes especially you have a bunch of contour lines you can be on that'll let you see out well beyond render range and up to maximum LRF return range of 1km.

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But for the most part you're in fairly dense woods with lots of undergrowth, you're moving from fairly compact field to fairly compact field, and there are contour lines acting as intervisibility lines "compartmentalising" the terrain.

So I absolutely get why some folks insist that if you move faster than a walk on clear ground with two white bars you're basically screwed for coming across good quality animals.

autumn sparrow
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I know this is a bit late, but yeah, I'd be nice if the devs posted official numbers and stats on noise, scent, and visibility.

heavy dome
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I wish the noise meter would better correspond to the noise a player was making. Sometimes, ill be running through water and only have 2 bars, but as soon as i get back on land the meter goes up to 1 red, even though the actual noise is quieter

rustic raven
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^this

autumn sparrow
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^this

rocky lodge
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I can tell you that lately the noise you make when you are standin next to a bush or tree trunk is now like 2 bars and you're just standin still. It used to be zero bars and flat lined for visibility but not anymore, you are still not seen but you are heard like your movin in the crouched position slowly.

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Seems like they fix one thing and mess up 10 others.

wicked moat
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Are you on console or PC? Mine does not do this on PC.

rocky lodge
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I am on PC.

wicked moat
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The closest I have is that I don't have noise indicator bars at all but I can hear the leaves rustling. I move very slightly and the noise stops. That's not a good bug to have.

Do we know if animal line of sight is interrupted by the whole bush? If you're behind a bush, but not in it, and they are looking past the bush towards you, they won't see you unless you're on their side of the bush / move around the bush, hey?

heavy dome
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I would assume it blocks their line of sight, but I'm not 100% sure

wicked moat
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It seems to through the center of the bush object, but the degree of camouflage conferred by for example a branch or the edge of a bush is not clear.

queen yarrow
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@rocky lodge
Are you wearing a backpack? Those increase your noise even when you're standing still.

rocky lodge
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I have a small one on.

queen yarrow
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@rocky lodge
There's your problem

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Fanny packs and backpacks increase your noise even when you're standing still, it says so in their description and stats... it's not the game's fault... 😉

autumn sparrow
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@queen yarrow Well, that sucks

queen yarrow
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?

autumn sparrow
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The backpacks. You'd think that if you stood still you wouldn't make any noise. Maybe the backpack is heavier so it makes you breathe harder, which results in the animals hearing you. 10/10 realism

queen yarrow
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I don't get it either but one day suggested that the wind blowing through certain materials make more noise than, say, something made of buckskin.

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I still think that's BS for fanny-packs though

proud mist
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It's BS anyway

autumn sparrow
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Who knows? Maybe my breathing harder theory is the actual reason why they added that!

proud mist
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And the devs stated it was a "gameplay over realism" thing if I remember right

queen yarrow
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I think in order to compensate for the noise backpacks do, clothing should actually offer better concealment then.

proud mist
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"Too easy!"

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I mean, the backpacks shouldnt really be making noise at all overall

queen yarrow
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Like in Classic.

autumn sparrow
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Possibly the backpacks should be making more noise when walking through bushes and shrubbery, but not standing still

proud mist
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But I guess there's some people out there that doesnt like giving people the option there. Doesnt make people better shots, just lets them carry the needed gear

autumn sparrow
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^the inventory system is already a nightmare in how little space you have to work with

queen yarrow
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I mean, backpacks at this point are just sort just there for those who want to make their game deliberately harder. No one else uses them after knowing their effects so may as well not even have them and just force people to be more practical with their loadouts.

proud mist
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Yuuuup

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I mean, I use the largest along with the ATV if I plan to set a tent somewhere but thats it

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Other than that... well, they are frankly wasted

autumn sparrow
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Plus, I wanna carry 5 rifles, 2 tents, a blind, and my handguns.

queen yarrow
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^Lol, not going to happen.

proud mist
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I just want my rifles

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Because if the game forces me to use one on each species then I just have to do it that way

autumn sparrow
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But Ivory, it's "just a game" 😜

queen yarrow
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Like, hunters IRL only bring a gun or two with them because when they go hunting they are after a specific target, whereas in the game we basically shoot anything we come across, big or small.

proud mist
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More or less yeah

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Anyways, like... I dont want to use bows as one example

autumn sparrow
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Yeah, I've seen them take like one rifle, a handgun for personal protection, and a pair of binoculars

proud mist
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But it seems to me that the main people calling for more noise in backpacks are bow mains

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Who doesnt have to carry much ever

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1-2 bows and a pile of arrows

autumn sparrow
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That's true, but bow mains tend to carry at least one other gun, in my experience. Bows have too little range to really be effective.

queen yarrow
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I'm trying to re-acquire my taste for bows. Sometimes I think their biggest advantage is that you only really need one weapon for everything, and that's more tempting than you may think.

I love handguns but whenever I go out I try to keep to only take two. It forces me to do a lot of heart shots (hey, free practice!) on bigger game just so I don't have to take the .457 as well.

proud mist
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I mean, I like guns for the range they provide myself

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More "secure" and all

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But the integrity system really makes using them an annoyance from time to time

autumn sparrow
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At one point I was only using bows because I found that, like you, there are very versatile. But at some point, I realized that with a gun I could take out 10x the amount of animals in the same period of time than with a bow. So, I took guns and never looked back.

proud mist
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There's always 1-2 species I have to "leave alone" if I go full gun build

queen yarrow
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Yeah, once the new update goes live and the threshold for QK bonus goes up by 60% in general, I'm not going to need the .457 at all. xD

autumn sparrow
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If they fix the RNG and make bows actually effective at their max zeroing range, I think I'd make them that much more viable and I'd give them another shot.

queen yarrow
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Does anyone know what's the scare radius on compound bows?

autumn sparrow
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I think it's 50m

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Don't quote me on that

queen yarrow
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and weapons it's 150m?

autumn sparrow
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250

queen yarrow
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Damn

autumn sparrow
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don't quote me on that

proud mist
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Yeaaah, if the QK bonuses go way up a lot of things will be fixed, I agree

autumn sparrow
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It'll really allow for whole different style of play. Since I first got the game and learned about spine shots, that was the one thing I looked for on the animal. Now, it's gonna be lungs or heart. We'll have to see how that change of mindset goes

proud mist
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I'd have done lung shots more often if they didnt ruin my trophies more than braining them did

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Add that neck shots were the "only" option from behind

autumn sparrow
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Oh yeah, neck shots are gonna be in a bad position now.
In regards to the update, ATM if you shoot a moose in both lungs with the Rhino .454, it will run 5 kilometers and die. By increasing the amount of time before the quick kill starts going down, it really doesn't fix the problem. The moose still runs 5 kilometers. I'm not going to care whether he still has 100% QK by then

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I'm wondering if they're going to make lung shots more damaging rather than just tweaking stats here and there.

queen yarrow
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Just.aim.for.the.heart.

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Really, practice your shots and it will feel 10x more rewarding. Animals drop on the spot even with slightly weaker calibers.

autumn sparrow
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No doubt heart shots are satisfying. I go for them whenever possible. But if spine shots are nerfed, and lung shots still remain an inconvenience (as in the animal crosses too much distance before death), I'm thinking about the grind. Currently, I've gotten past the majority of the grind, but for newer players, if heart shots are the only viable option, that grind is going to also be 10x longer. That's what I'm worried about.

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might I add that COTW already has a very long grind

queen yarrow
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You're supposed to get better along with that grind.

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Really, only bigger animals are an actual pain when it comes to lung shots. You do a DLH on normal and smaller critters and it's usually their instant death.

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Bigger animals an unnaturally larger health pool combined with "thicker skin". It's why a double lung shot doesn't kill them as fast as a similar shot placement in a smaller animal.

autumn sparrow
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I totally agree with you: the grind is important for skill development. However, I've spent many a weekend going on river runs on Layton to grind out moose to buy weapons and level up. Smaller and normal animals (including deer like blacktail) don't really jump out at me as good "grind" options. However, this is all from my POV. You probably have a completely different view on the game.

queen yarrow
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Ducks, my friend. Ducks

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Just find 2 or 3 good spots and cycle through them all day long, that will level your guns faster than tracking anything for 30ms.

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And if your aim is good, you can bag more than 1.

autumn sparrow
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Before the duck update was when I did most of my moose grinding, and I still see them as the best option (for cash, not necessarily just XP).
But, anyhow, that's my $0.02. Only time will tell, and that time is Feb 5th.

queen yarrow
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Oh, that's the official release date?

autumn sparrow
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Yeah, all platforms

queen yarrow
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Yussss, can't wait! 😄

autumn sparrow
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Liooooonnnnsss

queen yarrow
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BUG FIXES!

autumn sparrow
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BUG FIXES!!!!

queen yarrow
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I mean, my game's not that bad, most bugs I've stumbled upon are more annoying than actual deal-breakers but ya know... anything that promotes stability and improves the overall gameplay is good in my book. Perhaps just as important as new content.

autumn sparrow
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^I'd toast to that

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When you're like me and animals I kill like to teleport their dead corpses 300 meters away, bug fixes are even better

queen yarrow
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RNG was both kind and cruel to me the other day.

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I found a mythical fox that had gotten stuck in place but my consecutive harvest had been ruined previously so I had to let it go. 😢

autumn sparrow
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But... You coulda waypointed it, and gone and got your consec up

queen yarrow
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The menu bugged out when I clicked on Continue and gave me a New Game instead. Luckily that profile was new so it didn't upset me as much.

autumn sparrow
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Grandchild

queen yarrow
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Oh please, no...
I stepped on Vurhonga once some days ago, just to see how it was. The fact the warden keeps referring to as "grandchild" is going to grater my ears throughout the whole thing.

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The cringe is real.

autumn sparrow
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I know right? 😂

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If I had a dime for every time he said grandchild, I'd be rich by the end of the week

queen yarrow
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I know he's just an old dude trying to be endearing to us but... it's like being called a kid by someone who's 10 years older than you. Like. No.

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I know I'm 26, pretty young compared to the average player here, but I ain't no kid! >:|

autumn sparrow
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Damn right you ain't! What makes me laugh, though, is how by calling the player grandchild, he manages to get away from actually mentioning your name, like with all the other maps. You never do know your characters name

queen yarrow
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Not just your name but your gender as well. I understand why they did it, but it's still cringey.

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Or maybe it's a common thing in certain regions of Africa and I'm just culturally ignorant.

autumn sparrow
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Possibly, but then again, your grandfather doesn't refer to you as grandchild. He calls you by your name.
It's just making me cringe now, imagining that...

queen yarrow
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It's funny; when we're referring to our parents we just call them mom and dad but if it's the other way around it's just cringey. Well... not quite... some parents do refer to their children as such.

autumn sparrow
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That's one of the facets of life that never ceases to amaze me.
"By the way, daughter, can you do such and such"
Versus
"How's it going, mom?"

queen yarrow
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Hey, trying calling your parents once by their given names. See how they react. xD

autumn sparrow
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I have a friend that does that. Gives me shivers just thinking about it.

queen yarrow
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That and when we're going on the street and someone refers to you very formally.

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I think I shrivel a little inside.

autumn sparrow
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Also, that moment when you are with non-family members and your parents refer to each other by their given names when you are used to hearing your parents call each other "mom" or "dad".
Makes you think that you have somehow ended up inside Inception.

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Something's wrong with the world

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Anyhow, on another note, I want to Rhino .454 a lion. In the face.

queen yarrow
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^ -brain-

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At least it's deadlier that way.

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😛

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Speaking of which, I still need to get that achieve for shooting animals in the brain.

autumn sparrow
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I've been playing for hundreds of hours, and have hit I don't know how many animals in the head, and they die instantly, but I just never got the achievement.

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Maybe someday

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I mean, how hard is it to headshot 10 animals

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10. Animals

queen yarrow
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sneak in SAM

celest steeple
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why did my shoot scare other animals even though they were 300m away and i insta killed the animal

queen yarrow
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@celest steeple
What map were you on?

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Because pumas have a tendency to scare all nearby game.

celest steeple
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africa

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killed a gemsbok

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scared the other gemsbok

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but then did it again on a different lot

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nothing happened

near haven
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afternoon all, So I recently learnt you can play "game warden" and basically go around spotting animals and need zones and that helps at least increase population on the maps. Is this actually true? I mean I have no problem with basically leaving alone "lone" animals and only taking the males from the herds (however slow that is going to make the XP grind)

I was walking up and down layton lakes near the water. the visibility across allows for me to actually see animals before they see me (glorious idea I know) so I just wondered what other peoples tips and tricks are for maintaining animal populations and finding decent animals to kill

queen yarrow
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@near haven
Animals can spawn anywhere, and they will continue to do so despite your best or worst efforts, but spotting them seems to increase the likelihood of seeing more of that particular species around. It is important to discover and preserve need zones because they are sometimes linked to spawn nodes and if you encounter a rare somewhere, in a particular area, chances are more will come out of it.

In the past, if you stumbled upon a need zone with only one individual, it was recommended to leave said animal alone because in killing it you risked losing the need zone as well; the animal associated to with no longer existed, causing the node to despawn along with it. Nowadays that rarely happens... no idea of intended or just a bug... though there is a caveat.

Now, so long as you discover the need zone BEFORE harvesting the lone animal, it will remain there on the map. For the most part at least. I've adopted a new strategy because of this; I don't collect the animals I kill right away, instead I follow their tracks back to where they came from in the hopes of finding a need zone. Or at least I try, it also depends on the distance and my mood.

Also, the number of animals associated to a need zone tends to grow, or at least change, each session. Now it's one but in the future you could have a small group or a whole herd in there.

near haven
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I guess there is a direct correlation between how many animals I'm seeing these days and the fact that I don't run everywhere and I try and scope out places like lakes and hills because of better visibility

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but my god. crouchrun is soooo slow

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thanks again for your input @queen yarrow

wicked moat
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I don't find the default walk to be a bad thing: it's not good, but you can move between areas easily enough (reasonably quickly) without spooking everything (only L4+ animals in my experience) in a 200m radius or more like running will, you can spot tracks easily enough and follow up on them reasonably fast, you'll trigger warning calls and can start moving quietly after that.

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With regards to the grind, do people just not enjoy playing the game or what's the issue there? I found it a bit slow at first because I had no idea what I was doing, but doing storyline and side missions and just walking from A to B for those and killing things along the way with decent shooting has bumped me up to L42 very quickly.

queen yarrow
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@wicked moat
Some people don't like the grind because it gates skills and perks that are fundamental to their playstyle. They want everything unlocked from the get go so they can focus on what is actually important, not dealing with an RPG element that, to them, feels out of place on a hunting game.

Keep in mind, not everyone wants or likes to do missions. Leveling through kills only must be excruciating... I mean, even mission-doers can tell you how slow progress is now imagine it without them. Then we have those who lost everything to a bug and have to climb the whole mountain again just to get to where they were before...

celest steeple
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has anyone ever got a diamond scrub hare?

rustic raven
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do those even exist

wicked moat
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@queen yarrow : Yeah, I thought the grind was stupid and then simply just did what I could and got on with it. I'm not too interested in the missions myself, but inasmuch a they're a means to an end; and since I refuse to shoot red fox for my own reasons I'm obviously "stuck" on an early Hirschfelden story mission.

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In terms of 'balancing' I don't know that this is a valid concept for a SP / noncompetitive MP game. At the same time I understand the desire to not, as devs, have everything available from the get-go; one loses player interest quickly in this way.

proper sable
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grandchild

remote wraith
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If I sit in a bush in an unpopulated spot and spam me bleat will i eventually get a buck?

compact knot
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Yes, but you might be waiting a long time

queen yarrow
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@Logidot
Not the most efficient way of hunting, that's for sure. Deer will have to walk within earshot of the caller to be attracted to it and the bleat only has a 150m range... plus there's a small chance they may just ignore it.

autumn sparrow
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@Logidot#7005 I agree with Ivory, it's not very efficient (for the reasons he mentioned), and whitetail deer are the kings of ignoring callers. You'd probably be more efficient if you actively looked for deer and then used the caller. You'd have more success then.

plush gust
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@proud mist brought the discussion here cause I need tips, I have yet to come across a single 9 in any of my maps, heck this was the first 8 I had seen anywhere too. I know they are supposed to be rare but seems like you got a few of them. How did you find them?

proud mist
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WELL. The diamond difficulty varies from species to species and they seem more common on Parque than other maps. In the buffalo case I've found pretty much all of my diamonds along the "coastline"

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The "worm" is where I find most of my large water buffs

queen yarrow
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@plush gust
Diamonds are supposed to be rare; you could go several weeks or even months without ever seeing one, it all depends on your luck. Parque Fernando has the highest ratio so far when it comes to spawning one, ducks, pumas and buffaloes are the most common from what I've heard.

proud mist
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Ducks are the least common for me wont lie ^

plush gust
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Ok good to know

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I'll just have to keep looking then bound to find one at some point right?

proud mist
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Now checking my list here... 3 of my diamond water buffs were down in the lower right area on that map

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But yeah basically

queen yarrow
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Yeah, keep track of need zones where you've seen really high levels and there's a chance one day a diamond may come out of it.

plush gust
rustic raven
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i got that many

queen yarrow
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I think you may have gone overboard. The decoy's effects only stack up to 20 so the rest is just going to waste, plus I don't know if it's a thing or not but that many objects may block your aim from hitting a good duck.
@plush gust

rustic raven
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@plush gust i swear to god i got the exact same place as you

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can you provide a pic of the area

plush gust
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It's the area close to the broken work equipment....

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by the large log

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@rustic raven I don't have any pics of that area and I moved them from there they didn't land close enough for my liking there.

rustic raven
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ye p sure same spot lol

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me raven and another dude put a setup there

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nothin

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for like 20 mins

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saw 2 flocks

plush gust
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aww man yeah I got a couple flocks to land but they were more out towards the middle of the water area

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and I couldn't really hit them from where I was sitting

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I found a better location I would have to log in to see it and take a pic

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I can get them to land fairly close to where you can hide completely in the brush right off the edge of the water.

gusty otter
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Are Lions in the game yet

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Just a yes or no

queen yarrow
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Yes

near haven
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yes

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also. Diamonds. What are diamonds. One day I'll get a sweet sweet diamond.

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I've got to retrain myself on my guns first. learn the heart and double lung shots

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I'm a bit worried this means soft tip bullets are even more useless than they were before 😦

queen yarrow
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They always were, I'm afraid.

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This game rewards you for killing animals quickly and expansion bullets were never meant for that, as they are bleed their targets to death rather than dropping them on the spot.

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Now, if they make expansion bullets make better use of their spread to hit small targets, like the spinal cord, people may reconsider.

heavy hamlet
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when will I be able to taxidermy my trophies ?

queen yarrow
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Do you have Parque Fernando?
@heavy hamlet

heavy hamlet
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yes

queen yarrow
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I believe you have to do a chain of quests in order to unlock it.

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Someone else correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's carolina's challenges.

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Then you'll gain access to your trophy lodge, where you can mount your kills.

heavy hamlet
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so that means i need to finish the mission with all the diamonds ?

queen yarrow
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I think if you manage to get a diamond before that it will trigger the quest.

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Start one of them and see if that does it. No idea if only have to start it or finish it.

heavy hamlet
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i mean i've finished the mission with that taxidemy guy ... and i thought that would be it

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but i guess i was wrong

queen yarrow
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I haven't played PF yet, only read what other people have said. Someone else may have a better clue on what to do.

heavy hamlet
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it does kinda suck to finish all missions just for that ...

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on some form it said :" However, trophies and taxidermy animals should appear after you get diamonds."

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so i guess i need to start hunting diamonds ...