#🦌︴help-and-tips
1 messages · Page 252 of 1
well i did unlock all of them by hand.. so it was my own mistake
i just need for one of each lookout and outpost to lock again so i can do that first mission
I think I found a solution @sturdy coral , i replaced the 'missions' file and that reset the system and woke that Carolina up out of her sleep.. you don't actually have to have a lookout and outposts free to do the mission: the lookout you just have to run up the stairs and the outposts is claimable again during the mission.. although i already have it white, so must be two layers or smth
yes this fixed it
im trying to sort my lodge out . cant add any diamond animals . i have this indicator to place the blackbuck diamond
but there is no E to put it there
wondering if i can remove something or replace it in cfg to make it work again
@proper sable Did you see my post elsewhere about trying to turn missions off then back on in the settings? Haven't tried it myself but it could trigger the event again maybe?
tried that icon disappears with missions off . turn back on it appears . still no E to mount the animals though
just wondering if you remove something or replace it may fix it
its the most important part of the missions and the lodge yet cant do it
Yeah, I've seen a few others with this issue also.
not only that the icon can be seen from anywhere on the reserve never goes away
so you constantly see it where ever you are
Yeah
Any body know why it doesn't let me put the back pack on???
Pc
Thanks
Are you trying to put out tents or something?
If you are just hunting, then you don't want to put the backpack on anyway
Its more to carry extra.
I always carry duck decoys and a hide just in case i come across a pond for quick cash,
Well they scare animals from like 200 meters
I've never used them so I can't help you, I was just gonna suggest not even using them unless you were setting up
Guys, see the rocks to the right and the lines in the shot, I get that alot, got a decent PC but I can't figure out why this is happening all of a sudden ? Happens alot on grass and trees aswell.
@tawny plinth its all good,
Just the bag cost 20k and i cant even equip it 😂..
Rip
@steady yew Try clicking on "Backpack Color" https://imgur.com/bpqT0XT
It seems button placement has been off in these last few builds in a couple of the menu/options screens. Often times the accept button does not work and you need to click the name of the setting your are trying to change instead.
@signal gyro that works yea,
But now its telling me i cant afford to male changed.. i bought the damn thing already lol.. daft game
Interesting. You didn't make any other changes like sex, character, or clothing did you?
Nah even when i back out the menu and try it says the same thing
no ideas about my graphics issue? 😜
is there a best time of day for geese?
no
Anyone that has done the water sample mission on Vurhonga could I get some help? The location of the water samples isn't showing up on my map and I need to coordinates
Im having trouble getting past the dynamite bit on fernando
I had shot the dynamite from the wrong spot earlier and now after the patch and trying it again i cant seem to "hit" it even though im straight on it
I really want to get past this bit and stop the map from being in a constant downpour
Anyone got all the targets for Fernando reserve mission yet? I'm sitting at 14/15 and really wanting the .338
can anybody tell me why the starting screen is asking me to buy content i already bought ? I have all maps/DLC's and still it's asking me to buy some map
if you buy it it wont go away i guess
dont think it should really be obstructing anything tho
its like if you buy cable and youre watching tv and see ads for the cable youre watching it on
It's just an unfinished MOTD thing
yeah i have the content and also get a message about buying the map.
any tips for getting serious money?
I'm shmoking the occasional animal I run across on Layton
Do all the missions you can if you haven't already
I bought a bow, so atleast I have a better chance with hers
herds*
I'm on Hope 3 rn
go after the achievements for killing 50 of each animal. while your busy doing that your money will jump up
should I bother grinding for the regular 270 since I have the engraved?
no reason to
or go straight to grinding for the 7mm
You'll just unlock it as you go regardless
But the next gun you buy should be the 7mm, at least as far as rifles go
I guess my next grind is the hyperion
I'm not gonna get the long range scope at the top for awhile
I really only use the 4-8x
the Hyperion then?
Hyperion yeah
Will take every big animal in the game
I use my 7mm on the big game, takes down buffalo/bison efficiently
And it has great range
so 243 for deer and fox
270 for deer and bear
moose as well
7mm for the big game
.223 for fox
i got the 45 - 70
is there a list of what rifle gives integrity for each species?
that seems to jump from killing things fine to not doing that
.243 for deer, coyotes, etc.
7mm for reindeer and up
thanks
You can kill everything on the maps with the .243, 7mm, and .22
don't have weapon pack 1 so rip
You are missing the crossbow then too
oh so the 45 - 50 is better for deer while the 7mm if better for bigger stuff
45-70 works a lot better on moose and up now than it used too
It'll take up to Cape buffalo down well now
No
I guess I'll have to bring my 243 with me aswell for long shots
I've got my bow on me though, so not much to worry
On Layton
Take the .243, 7mm, and a bow
I never use it but it was one of my favorite guns
not had a diamond yet
Integrity is really easy to keep as long as you have the right weapon
I take a weapon for every animal
but foxs dont wanna play
do dlc animals show up in your map without you having the dlc?
I didn't buy ducks but I see mallards in the lakes
also in start game
Medved, Vurhonga and Parque aren't greyed out
almost like I can start a game on the reserves
Animals are never DLC, only maps and equipment
If you don't have the maps you can't go to them though
unless its multiplayer
Yes, use the 12 ga on ducks and 12 ga or .223 on geese
not done any shotgun or pistol hunting yet
didnt like the brids
id like more deer sized stuff to hunt
i would also like to know if bears will start hunting animals like the puma does
probably not
I've shot one duck
I know in Classic, the wolves hunt animals, however, the other predators in the game do not
wolves could be fun
never played classic
do you want i send you invite to try it
with invite you get some nice stuff for game that you dont need to buy later
im ok thanks
i already suck at call of the wild
i dont need to suck at another hunting game aswell
I guess my main goal is to hunt black bear
since I seem to get 1k cash on them
does the farm tactic still work?
with the atv
How to get rid of hunting pressure?
Just kill stuff elsewhere
It'll disappear over time
Also the birds don't react to hunting pressure, if you didn't already know that
welp
so I shot all over the north of the starter tutorial point
and the tutorial deer pressure is still there
You might need to kill thing further out
Or kill more before it completely disappears.
I just ran around the right sector and some of it dissappeared
the tower by the center lodge of balmont pressure dissapeared
although the area by the lake got pink because I shot 2 moose and 2 whitetail there
How many tents can be placed per reserve?
I haven't ran into a limit yet, so I'd assume it's quite a high amount
I'll try place a bunch next time I play, could very well be
hmm
So basically
I just need to have 1 tent that takes up space
then I can have the others that don't take up any?
that might explain how you can have crazy amounts of ammo
just take 2 pics of bears i guess lol
head to a bear need zone
personally i find alot of bears in those three areas
that dip in roonachee bottom left has tons of bears
if you bring a distressed fawn caller you can easily call two bears into 1 place
atleast for me
level 17 rip
oof
i could help
this is my steam feel free to friend me if you want my help
i myself havent done the mission so
I think you should first say with what you need help
which one ?
gold mine
That mission is bugged @low cosmos
what to do then? @bold patrol
nothing except wait for the dev team to get back from holidays and fix it
How do I find the spreadsheet with the integrity of different guns?
Linked you it in #🦌︴general now 😃
Thank you @tropic stump
hmmmm
ive gotta kill 2 boar from a ground blind
theres no need zones in the field of view
any tips for bringing bear in closer to i can shoot them ?
caller
Try not being prepared to hunt bears at all, maybe even being half-AFK, that's usually when I find them 🙃
how do you save your game to continue on another reserve?
Your game autosaves, you can switch reserves at any point by opening your map and hitting H (or the equivalent button on your controller, should say which one at the bottom right of the screen) to open the reserve selector @hazy sluice
thanks
Looking for suggestions on which skills to take next. Have one point available at the mo, considering:
Stalker - Weather Prediction L1
Stalker - Wind Prediction L1
Ambusher - Spotting Knowledge L3
Not so sure about the utility of spotting knowledge's "reveal information about how aware the animal is of nearby threats," do the animal animations not indicate their behaviour and alert state already? Is this a separate metric I only access by having the skill, or do I only know this by unlocking the skill?
And how useful is Wind Prediction / what changes exactly does that make?
I found spotting knowledge more useful. It's not always easy to see how the animal if feeling
i didnt realise building hunting pressure for the missions would be so much of a pain
Yeah, I think I agree with you there: weather prediction is useless (makes no difference to me) and unless Wind Prediction improves the degree to which ambient noise hides your movement noise and makes it easier to move during that time, there won't be a meaningful stalk bonus as compared to being able to glass the target and know how they're feeling.
^
How do I add the need zone icons to my map? I've found a few and I see the notification saying they have been added but when I look on my map I don't see any
You need to zoom in to see them on the map
Nice, thanks for that
There are weird zoom levels, gotta fidget it with it a bit just like getting the highlighted mission areas.
The highlighted mission areas display at any zoom level, but they take some time to load in upon opening the map.
Interesting. The delay is so severe for me that I have to scroll in to a medium-close or so zoom level before the area displays.
should i buy .243 polymer tip bullets
yes
thank you i bught the bullets but now my gun wont equip
Its a thing you have to set it in your inventory
Question: Does antler ratler also work on females?
Question 2: Where can I find Water Buffalo on Parque?
Along the east side of the map
Just run up or down along the east side and you'll find plenty
And antler ranttler only works on males?
I'm unsure about that, sorry
ok
how do i equip my gun
Once you have a gun in your inventory (by moving it there in a weapon cache by an outpost or in a tent) you can open your inventory (Escape or F2 on PC) and select backpack, then drag the weapon to your hotbar. Then you drag the ammo and scope you want on your gun to the gun on the hotbar.
When you exit out of the menu you should then be able to press the corresponding key (hotbar is numbered, matches the numbers on your keyboard, or you can scroll through them with the mousewheel (unsure about controller, sorry)) to bring out your weapon.
@hearty jewel
Are you on PC?
Try pressing 'H', it might be holstered
i had to press F2
Ah, there you go 😃
thank you apreciate it
Glad to help
will a flashlight scare animals in this game
I'm fairly certain it does not.
And I'm not finding anything about it scaring them, so I think it's safe to say it doesn't.
@hazy sluice : Yes, the antler rattler will bring in does also. Often you'll get the does coming in towards you 'running interference' for a more cautious buck (male) at the back of the pack. I found that on Hirschfelden especially I had to shoot between fallow does to get the buck fairly often.
As for Q2, water buffalo on Parque, they're pretty common. East side of the map is good, as you've been told already, and I find the north side near that large marsh to be a good area for them. Some of the larger lakes in that "North-Central" area also have considerable herds.
Anyone know where to find a lot of mule deer?
Anyone know, can you hit all the targets for the challenge circles with the .223 docent?
um not sure how do I find that out?
You can test it at a shooting range or a wall or something at 300m to see how high you have to aim to hit a set point, then compare that to the results of another rifle
Why does it sound like a pig squealing at night in Parque Fernando?
@hazy sluice : lots of mule deer all over the center area.
I'm quite new to the game and have been working through the missions but I'm stuck on this one. I have been stalking fox but can't get 200+ meters away because of hills and trees, anyone know a good spot Hirschfelden reserve.
I think I got that one in one of the larger fields either in the center of the map or a bit off to the west of the center
Ok yeah i see what looks like fields, I've not been there yet so I'll try that. Thanks
im stopping with story missions on hirsch because of that
I looked in the fields for that mission. Got lucky
@main sluice find the area from the mission photo. There's a hill to the west overlooking the wind farm. You will get it there but will likely need patience
Thanks for the help, I got lucky and spotted a fox on the edge of a field at 218 meters😄 Did take a lot of patience
I was able to get that mission by going to the windmills
There's a fox need zone up near the water there and it's all pretty open territory
Any good websites for integrity etc?
But it's not kept up to date
I might make my own with the new maps
How do I pick up hides
The chair onw
Nevermind, found it
If and what blinds scare animals when placing them
The game is unplayable for me at the moment, locks up then shuts down with this message. I played my first 40 hours fault free, not changed anything on my PC. Anyone have ideas how I can fix this?
@main sluice Try running through this list of bugfixes https://support.thehunter.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003549987-My-game-won-t-start-from-Steam-Game-crashes
still locks up occasionally for me buuuut the game just wont launch if you have a ps4 controller plugged in
I have a question; in the shotgun perk tree, "Body Control" basically makes aiming in scope mode faster, right? I mean, it doesn't lag behind like it normally does.
Yes, you either go into "aim mode" faster or your aim mode is more stable while pivoting. One of the two - forget which is which exactly, but those are the features.
Thanks Stas!
Also, another question: how precise do we have to be to get the wildlife paparazzi achievement (photograph every trophy animal in Hirsh and Layton)? Like in the missions where we have to be really close but foliage doesn't matter, or...?
Just wondering if it has more loose standards than the missions.
Is the Grunt Snort caller used to call Bison/Buffalo? On it it says it can attract Blue Wildebeest but none of the callers say they attract Bison/Buffalo
It seems to work but I don't know if that's just because I use it when they are near or if it's actually calling them to me...
Bison cant be attracted
Its probably just the random sound
theyre probably curious
Theyre probably like "The frick is doing that noise, lets look"
ai very good
mm
Technically, it is possible to attract bison and buffalos. There are two skills that give scents and callers a small, random chance of attracting an animal that isn't normally interested in them. It's how you bring in animals that currently have no callers or scents for 'em.
Is there a way of tracking our achievement progress? I don't mean Steam statistics on how rare a particular 'chieve is, I mean how many critters are left to complete those "Kill 50 X animals".
LoL @hazy sluice love that, and thank you @queen yarrow
Does anyone know the degradation time on tracks? I would try to figure it out in my game but my FPS are low so time runs differently in my game. I tried looking it up but can't find it anywhere. I would take a guess that it takes 5 min to go from Just Now to Very Fresh to Fresh and so on but I want to be sure.
@plush gust
Oh thank you, where did you find that? I tried doing a search on google but turned up nothing....
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e94Wqyh4sWEopfZWQzW6GNFFg_bga8TvTC9SOnWpO2w/edit#gid=0 Bottom of this spreadsheet, which has some other useful info too
There's also this one for diamond requirements https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xHSUvCw8UPjlQVE22YRvDYOgpRmhivBS7Ejvqx1izdA/edit#gid=0
OMG thank you thank you thank you! ❤ ❤ ❤
Those spreadsheets are awesome! They have all the info I've been trying to find.
Should I be using a lvl 2 or lvl 3 ammo on Puma, wondering because on wiki it says they are a lvl 3 animal but when I use my lvl 3 bow ammo I don't get 100% integrity, I get 0....
I just downed 2 with 100% QK and HB but 0 IB, both with the bearclaw and 600gr arrows
Arrows are a bit weird with integrity it seems
ah ok figures
you need 420gr for pumas
I just use a 7mm, which is weapon class 3
You have to use the medium arrows for pumas I think, red deer are a class 3 animal but if you have a class 3 arrow it gives no integrity.
600gr for buffalo, bison, and gemsbok
Ok so arrows are different than the rest of the ammo cause 600gr says class 3
Yeah but those arrows are really just for the biggest game
The green / medium ones are ideal for nearly everything in-between small and big game.
@plush gust
With bows you don't have to worry much about using a weaker arrow because their penetration is so high it will still do plenty of damage. Maybe some will take a little longer to kill but that's it. Just don't use a blue arrow on a bison. xD
Ok, I love using the bow, I'm better with it but that's because of the distance needed to hit the animals is much lower than some of the other weapons. I can do ok with a scoped rifle but I don't have any of the class 3 or 4 guns yet so I've been using the bow with the class 3 arrows for those animals. Guess I need to work on getting money for those higher class weapons.
bows are the most fun
I agree, I also am good at archery in RL, so I just tend to use bows in games that have them...lol
I like bows but I'm starting to like handguns just as well. They're really powerful and can take easily on animals sometimes bigger than intended for their caliber. Also a weapon to be used under 100m, which I like since I'm more a close-range kind of gal.
And easy to do heart shots with.
Sounds like me, I prefer close range because I have less chance to miss. lol
Handguns are similar to bows in practicality. There's only 3 of them so less fuss on what to pick, the first gun for smaller game, the second for medium and the last for for bigger critters. Not like rifles where there's one for each day of the week, some of them similar in caliber... just a big waste of money to get them all.
I don't like how loud guns are as well they spook everything 250m from you
I heard it's only 150m.
But I wouldn't know.
The quietest weapon in the game is the recurve bow.
Managed to hunt with that one without spooking a herd that was 50-100m from me.
The compound bow is a little noisier than that and the crossbow even more (though less than a normal gun).
I'm hunting bison with a handgun caliber 2 with a shot straight in the heart, they last about 5 seconds before dropping (max 15m distance) yet the QK sits at 95%~? What gives?
I won't use the crossbow, I don't like them, I haven't played with the recurve bows yet but I will at some point. I just really like using the compound bearclaw.
The recurve bow is hard because you have to aim the old-fashioned way. No scope, sight or aim to help you.
Some people use a crosshair thingie to help
Oh that doesn't bother me so much, though if they work like a recurve does in RL I shouldn't have any issue.
Also it only has one type of arrow and it is for class 3 or above animals
Can't use compound arrows on it
Yeah each bow has their own arrows. Which is part of the reason I have yet to use the recurve. I just hate switching all that stuff out when switching weapons. Right now I have the first 5 quickslots full with my rangefinder, bow, rifle, shotgun, and handgun, in that order, each with a different weapon class ammo. so I can just switch weapons without changing out my ammo.
the rest have my callers/scents/deployable and such which those get shuffled and changed as needed
You're carrying a lot of weapons... do you even have space left for callers and a tent? 😮
yep i do
i have a tent on me at all times and callers for all the animals in the reserve i am in
You're using a backpack aren't you?
That explains it, I don't use any
why I did not get a license for 3 months membership at all because I've been so un-active and has gone to waste it
?
i am sad
😦
😢
@plush gust : Don't you find the backpacks to really mess up any kind of under-150m stalking?
@wicked moat Actually now that you mention it it could be why I have trouble now getting close to the animals...I'll have to take my pack off that i've been using and change out some stuff and see if it changes.
It's definitely a factor; packs make you louder and easier to spot. I usually bring two weapons, ammunition for both, optics (rangefinder/binocs/both), appropriate lures for the reserve I'm in, and sometimes a blind or tent but not always. I have scent blocker and the aid kit usually, also.
Often I carry a shotgun because the different ammo types let you deal with Class 0 to Class 3 targets. The same is true of bows.
If I rest, like in a tent close to an area where I know animals usually are at a set time, and wake up around the time the animals should be in that area will they be? Trying to figure out how to set myself up for a buffalo hunt. I have a spot that they always seem to be at multiple times a day but waiting is...boring so I want to try and get the time as close as possible so I don't have to wait to long
If the wind doesn't shift on you so it's blowing across your killzone and spooking the animals, yes, that would work. I usually camp a ways away from where I want to hunt and then based on the wind, approach the target area accordingly.
Ok cool I thought it would work like that but so far I've not had to much luck with it
Sometimes I've had deer right outside the tent. There's probably some kind of spawn radius factor to consider; I consider close to be ~250m or so, if I were right on top of a need zone I don't think it would work.
@plush gust
Yeah, in this game backpacks aren't really worth it because their cons are a lot more consequential than their benefits. You're more visible and audible to critters, even when standing still, so for close-range hunting you're shooting yourself in the foot with a backpack. It's a way of punishing you for not packing lighting and being more practical with your setup.
And yeah, diamonds aren't just rare, they're also the hardest animals to hunt because of how aware they are and how likely they are of just running away as soon as they -think- you're there. They don't give warnings, one or two mistakes and they're gone. They're not as responsive to callers and scents once alerted as well, so you can't just wait for them to return like with other animals.
How do we complete the Blind Shot achievement? It's one where we have to hit an animal that is barely visible. I heard it involves bushes but does the critter have to be in them or behind them?
I'm not even sure I'm going to be able to get that one given the game doesn't render animals past 400m anymore.
So, for those of you who don't know, apparently in order to get the Blind Shot Achievement you need to shoot an animal at least 150m, at night. Just need to land the shot, no kill necessary.
Need some guidance on the Hirschfelden Bhandari #8 mission.
Mission OBJ:
- Travel to the bridge at Ernsdorf
- Harvest a hurt bison downed with a handgun
I did that one not too long ago, may be able to help.
So I read that as "go to Ernsdorf bridge, find the injured bison, kill it with a handgun," which if you haven't been handgun hunting and so have decent ammo unlocked is gonna be the opposite of humane, but that's not the point: I did all this, got the bison, harvested the bison... aaand mission did not complete.
Probably need to kill it within the area (some missions allow you to go beyond that).
Exit your game and re-enter, wait a little, it will respawn the bison.
Good to know. It may have run outside of the mission box.
Killing a bison with the first handgun is a real challenge though, you need at least the .44 to do some damage. The bison is wounded so it doesn't have as much HP but it is still tough.
It took three .357 solid projos (instead of the JHP default) to put it down with 2x thoracic spine + lung hits and one skull + brain + neck shot.
But yeah it did go down. Just only after running out of the mission box I suppose.
Yeah, some of the bison missions aren't as finicky with the mission area. Nevertheless, when it comes to missions, exiting the game and re-entering allows those animals to re-spawn... just have to wait a little sometimes.
My tip is to try and get the bison to charge you and then fill him with bullets... it's very unethical and will give a terrible score but hopefully it will go down faster.
ALSO
Yes.
I think only your first shot has to be from a handgun
the rest can be with any other weapon
That is good to know. What I will do next time is make a better approach and double lung him.
This time I just walked over the bridge hey-diddle-diddle straight down the middle and wnet "Oh hai the bison."
Because for whatever reason I didn't think he'd be hanging out in the middle of the road like that.
Yeah, he's right by the bridge
Try shooting him first with the handgun and then finishing with other weapon. I've heard it worked for other people in other missions
Borderline exploit buuuut.... ya know. 😛
Yup, I've done that before. In this case the .357 solid cast are enough with 50pen to hit vitals, so I'll practice with that instead of going for a quick switch and trying to .338 him or something while he's running away / rushing me.
Thanks for the guidance on the whole reboot and wait mission reset.
Np
What is the max weight for mule deer?
idk but the min to get a diamond is around 197
Ok, thanks
If I want to be in a need area before the animals get there how much time should I give myself before they are estimated to show. Is an hour enough or will they be to close at that point? I can't seem to figure it out I always end up being there either just as they are getting there or after they are already in the area.
This dang water buffalo herd is giving me hell. I'm now on day 3 of trying to get in front of them so I can get close enough to the leader. He's a Mythical and my Moby Dick.
In my experience animals can show up at any time around a need zone so I tend to ignore the hours it indicates and just visit the area on occasion. If you want to go by the tool tip, the rule of thumb is to prep a good half-hour to 1 hour earlier, depending on how long you take to get there. Also setting up tents scares pretty much anything on a 150-200 radius so good keep that in mind.
And you need an albino DEER for moby dick, not a buffalo.
@plush gust
@queen yarrow thanks for the help I will try getting to the area about an hour before.
Also I was just referring to his elusiveness, I didn't know that there was an actual Moby dick thing in game. Lol
Yeah it's an achievement, need to harvest an albino deer to unlock it. 😛
Haha ok, I had no clue about that one. I looked the achievements over but didn't pay to close attention to them. I get most of them by chance lol
i have a question for the parque fernando trophy lodge, do the diamonds have to be taken down only on single player or can they be harvested on your multiplayer map?
to get a diamond does it have to be it's max level?
Yes
thought so
Not always
Wildebeest and kudu (at least used to) have a decent shot at being diamonds at "Easy"
easy is what level? in numbers
5-medium
Does the visibility indicator adjust at all for illumination? I know it adjusts (especially if you have perks to make you harder to see in the rain, for example) for weather, but does night mean anything besides making life harder on you?
anybody know why parque fernando has no animals i actually thought the game was bugged. or can you explain how to hunt in parque fernando
@vivid scaffold that's a glitch on your part, I can't step out of a tent without getting barreled over by something being chased by a puma
i reloaded and the same thing
i went 2km without seeing a single animal
me and my buddy were crouch walking so like we didnt spook anything
i dont understand it lmfao im in the savanna and i see huge migrations and everything but in parque fernando there's nothing
its a glitch on your part
either that or too much pressure
🤷
like if you hunted PF before you had the dlc
the pressure from the other players on the MP will go to your server when you boot it up in SP
I have pressure in VH from the north part from the MP I played before I had it
i dont think it was the pressure because i play with my friend everyday on this game and in every map we hunt in the south but in parque fernando we decided to hunt in the north this time
and yeah nothing for a long time
ever
When you buy one of those stands in the open does the construction of it scare animals like the tents and blinds do?
@celest steeple
Yup. Sometimes I'd get warning calls nearly instantly after setting up those structures.
never got it
set one up 150 yards from a red deer
didnt care
called it right in to the stand
man im so confused as to what bullet type to use and when to use it
poly or soft
i saw online poly is better for long range and soft is better for close
that just doesn't seem right
Why?
why what
@celest steeple
There's only one type of ammo currently worth the investment in this game; high-penetration rounds. The idea behind expansion is to bleed your target to death, unfortunately, anything with enough 'oomf' to pierce both lungs is still going to be deadlier than a relatively high bleeding rate. The idea is to drop the animal on it's tracks, or close to it, expansion rounds aren't for that.
Also, they require a bit more precision when aiming to do any 'real' damage; hit a bone and that's going to be a flesh wound, hit the non-vitals and you're going to be tracking that animal for a while, hit the vitals and it still doesn't guarantee a good kill bonus. I've managed to drop fallow in 2-3 seconds using the .357 (class 1) and bison in 5 seconds with the .44 (class 2). How? Penetration rounds to the heart.
I would have never been able to pull that off with their measly expansion rounds.
I also use exclusively high penetration rounds because a double lung puncture is better than an exploded single lung; and you're much more likely to hit something vital especially on a moving target.
In terms of ballistic science the game is garbage. Representation of projectiles with v-loss, wind, intermediate barriers, terminal effects, all of this is just "lol, no", so don't look for an intuitive understanding of what's going on. There's the game systems, which are consistent (except when they change something and suddenly a class two is too much for class two animals because reasons) and, with the exception of class zero targets, you're gonna want the pen.
Realistically speaking the notion that a poly tip is better than a soft tip is bullshit, both are modern spitzer projectiles out of modern MOA-or-better hunting rifles and we can't fire past 400 because animals don't render beyond that anyway, so "ballistic capped" polymer tipped projos would mean jack shit. Don't worry about ranges other than what you can precisely hit vitals at.
Just today I confirmed this for myself by using .357 solid cast bullets; I messed up my stalk by losing track of my target through some brush, spooked him accidentally, and reflexively shot him through the torso because I play too many FPS and that's center mass on a fleeting target. I had been trying for a central nervous system shot, which is why I wanted the solid cast loaded. Previously I'd have gone for a lung with .357 hollowpoints. The round went through one lung, stomach, liver, and intestines and he fell over 75m away from the first blood spoor.
"Kebab skewer" for the win, in short. At least with how ballistics and terminal ballistics is currently modelled.
im getting fuck all penetration on gemsbok with polymers though
@celest steeple
What weapon are you using to hunt gemsbok? They're a class 3 animal, on par with red deer and bears. .270 poly rounds should drop them on their tracks, same as the .44 revolver, just aim for the heart.
@queen yarrow 7mm, going to spine shots and keep getting flesh wounds
Could be hitting shoulder blade
The trajectory of the arrow is aiming for the spine when j harvest it though
Yeah sometimes I do but I didn't realise it does so mucb
Much
Does it really slow down the bullet that much
Yeah, don't aim for the shoulder if you're doing spine hits.
i never seem to hit animals in the heart
They're easy, at least on deer.
And bison to some extent
It helps to take a good look at the harvest screen. Place your mouse at the heart and switch between x-ray and live mode
I know where most of the hearts are I just find it easier to go for spines
It's only gemsbok I struggle on though
Do the same thing I suggested kernal, when you harvest one, place your mouse where you want to hit in the future and let it spin (x-ray or live mode) to get the angles right.
Eventually you'll get the hang of it
Is it possible to catch up to an animal by following it's Very Old tracks?
Yes, but I wouldn't bother unless it's diamond potential
I just run around waiting for a call tbh
I am doing the mission where I have to spot 3 different fur colors, I have a hard time finding them but found a cinnamon and blonde trail both very old but I figured I got nothing else to do why not?
plus i have an atv so if the trail doesn't got to crazy I can get closer faster maybe
@plush gust I have found that it's easier to leave the mission on the side and do another one. Next time you see a bear, just spot it, and eventually you'll complete that mission. It didn't take me long to get them, even when not actively trying to get the mission. Also, the ATV has a crazy spook distance, so any and all bears will run for the hills long before you even get them in view.
@autumn sparrow Ok cool, thanks for the tip on the ATV, I hadn't considered that lol...
@plush gust Yeah no problem. I know from experience since I have tried to outrun animals in the ATV. They're speedy little devils, I can assure you.
And more agile and you'll drive them up somewhere the ATV won't go
I sort of just followed the western side of the map myself, where I usually find bears in said area that is
@plush gust
Track age isn't 100% reliable because sometimes animals stop by need zones and stay there for a while, you'd be thinking they're far away only to stumble upon them in the next corner. Similarly, very fresh tracks become redundant when the animal is on the run, as by the time you get to the next one it probably already covered a good distance.
Personally I'd use a caller every once in a while to see if I can pin-point their location or at least proximity.
Trying to do Doc #22; harvest a whitetail around Balmont Lake at at least 75m. Thing is... there's no whitetails in that mission area, only blacktails. Bug? Intended? Or just bad luck?
I've seen some whitetails there before, they just aren't quite as common as the Blacktail are there
Bad luck then
Whitetails and blacktails are rare for me all I see is moose and bears
Really don't like layton
Do you spot a lot of moose and bears?
Because I've heard that the animals you spot have higher chances of spawning in that area than the rest.
I spot them a lot because it's all I see, I normally just do river runs
Rarely away from the river
Ah, I usually trek all over, rivers, mountains or fields, I'm everywhere so I tend to find all sorts of critters. Except the ones needed for missions... it's like they know and go into hiding.
Interesting that the spotting influences it.
Start at the outpost just south of the lake. Then head left and there are usually some whitetail around the mountain that has the little split gap in between it. Use you lure to draw them down to the zone for the mission.
I went to the north of that mountain and called a bit then as I was heading up, a herd started to come down.
Recently started playing, and i noticed i have two calls in my inventory already. However, i dont know what animals theyre for, can anyone help me out?
Roe deer caller is for roe deer and deer bleat caller is for whitetail, blacktail and mule deer
How do i know which one is which though?
Roes can be found in Hirschfelden and white & blacktail in Layton
You can check their names from inventory 😃
Oh, derp lol
Also they say in the inventory which species they attract
So, second question: im really struggling with hitting anything i see, is there a better way to calculate the trajectory then just "aim and hope for the best" (which is all i can do rn)
Is it just something that you learn to estimate after awhile?
You can buy rangefinder after a while which you can use to check the distance and I'd also suggest to visit the firing range in Hirsch to get an idea how the gun handles different distances 😃
Ah, ok, didnt realise there was a firing range, perfect
But at the beginning I wouldn't worry about it too much really. Explore and have fun!
So, uh, just checked my map. Where is hirsch lol
The range is in the bottom right corner of the map. There is like an island so you need to run there. But will be able to fast travel once you visit it.
Lol you started in Layton? Open the map and press H to open reserve selection
Oh yea they changed the first map to be Layton awhile back. It was Hirsch before 😄
But you can change between the reserves anytime
Hirschfelden is the name of the reserve? Im not seeing it on the list of reserves
Nvm
Map was being weird
Found it
Awesome! 😃
Now if i could just get a blacktail or whitetail at night, id be set
They are in Layton and really common. Should not be too hard to come across some. Lakes are good areas to check out. Good view distance and lots of needzones.
Yeah, ive seen a few, just keep missing my shots lol
Animals don't care about the headlight so use if when need to check tracks at night
Ah ok, was wondering about that
That happens to everyone! If I remember right the started weapon is zeroed to 150m by default.
Oh, wow, 150? Maybe thats why i was missing, mlst of my shots have been ~40m id say lol
That's possible 😄 I remember missing a lot when I started too but you get used to them 😃 And if you want to know the right range then firing range is your friend.
Yeah, definitely gonna check that range out
And later you will open zeroing skill which will help a lot
Are the compounds any good, or should i stick to rifles? Id love to use a bow, but not if its going to be hurting my chances
Personally I love the bows most and they are awesome weapons. But need animals to come close! But yes, they are really good.
Ah ok, nice
So it's up to you what you want to do and what to unlock 😃
Alright, thanks for all the help!
Glad to help! Have fun and happy hunting 😃
does anyone know when they'll add challenges for the two newest maps to multiplayer?
Does anyone knof of a good time and place in Spreeberg on Hirschfelden to hunt red fox with a bow?
Foxes are night animals but I've had best luck early mornings like 3-6am
Did you find them in like a certain spot
Been awile since I hunt them but not really. Wandering around and picking tracks and need zones.
just chase them down you can outrun them if you're doing that annoying bow mission
True haha
I cant find them thats the problem
Only call once when calling them in they take a long time to come in but they will come in at some point
Foxes will circle around to check downwind of what they're sensing, too, so be sure to be in a very well hidden position with a good line of sight from that point.
The scent may not spook them (it will higher level animals but you just need any fox for that mission, n00b-foxes count) but it will put them on alert and then if they see you they'll bolt.
If im in a blind will they not sense me
Look at your indicators: if you're moving too much or too fast they might hear you, but they shouldn't see you. IIRC, blinds also reduce scent by something like 20-33%, so they shouldn't spook because they smell you until they're a lot closer.
Someone else will know better than I do on that last point.
I hate this mission
Hey I’m on Xbox 1 and I bought a backpack to move duck decoys, it allowed me to put the backpack on but now I can’t take it off and it makes it really hard to hunt for a level 23 player. If anyone knows how to fix it plz tell me
You should be able to take it off like how you put it on
@vestal cipher I tried it didn’t work
I dont know then, Im a pc player
I got my fox
It helps to have a map of the animal locations
I made my own intergrity guide that i feel is somewhat easy to read since most i saw weren't so easy, please check it out
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1630554022
So I shot a decent moose and it showed the hunting pressure so I know I killed it. It was a high bleed rate and the health said 0-25 on the blood spot in the picture. But the tracts ended right there I searched and searched but found nothing. I went to the outpost then came back to see if it would load in. Nothing changed. :/ can anyone tell me why this might be happening?
might have run off into the bushes
ive had tracks stop while the animal goes off and dies
^
It might also somehow fall into water or shoot off in some random direction, but only had that happen on Medved here
It's wierd tho cause I searched all over and still couldn't find it
It was a level 4 too
:/
level 4 aint diamond
I don't have any diomands yet and I like got the game like 3 weeks ago
So any money is a help
ive owned it since launch day and i only got 1 diamond
2019?
Like the 2019 version
no
i dont own the 2019 edition
all it is is a bundle
im talking when the game firstcame out
i got it like 2 hours after it came out
2017 i think
I just got my first diamond at around 70 hours
Does hitting an animal with an atv damage them?
Ah, and here i thought i was being smart aiming for the giant buck running towards me lol
So, for coyotes, i know it says theyre nocturnal, but ive seen them walking around in the daytime too. Would my chances be much better trying to hunt at night instead of day?
I'd do early morning instead
Whats the best way do go about it? For blacktail, i usually walk into the wind, and just go until i hear a call, then i use my lure and wait for them to come. Same idea for coyotes?
Pretty much
Coyotes take longer to come in though and could come in from anywhere completely different to where it called from
So gotta be patient
Ah ok
You gonna use a bow?
@teal breach I usually find them out on the ice or in the forest near where you fix a bridge
Took me a while to find enough however
how do callers work in this game? it seems like animals are ignoring them
Is there really a difference in Nenet Reindeer and Wild Reindeer? Cause I'm not seeing anything to different...Maybe I'm missing it?
It says so when you spot them
You just have to be in the right area for it and it's a one time thing for the mission
hello, guys!
i need a bit of help but i might need a dev or a moderator for the topic in question
actually, you know what, maybe not
@tawny plinth Ok so once I do that for the mission I don't have to worry about which is which I can freely hunt any I come across?
Yes, you don't have to worry about them anymore
What should i be using for coyotes, a .270 or a bow? Not sure how you guys figure out what to use
Ah ok, ill switch it out then
The .223 is a varmint rifle so should be good for coyotes.
Or just use the .357 handgun... or 300g arrows.
Or just fire them all at once and hope one does the trick. 😛
Something else im wondering, when i turn my camera i can hear branches and stuff breaking, but my noise meter doesnt go up. Can animals still be spooked by that?
Nope.
Oh ok, i was always super nervous about looking around because i thought they wouldhear me and run off lol
If it doesn't register on the visibility or noise meter then you're fine.
Alright, good to know
I copy the whole theHunter Call Of The Wild folder to cloud every once in a while
is the trailblazer out yet?
Literally just come out this second
umm Im totally new to cotw, comming from classic and i wonder what is the point of hunter mate here ? what does it do ?
You don't really need the huntermate in cotw
It can help you to follow tracks but I normally don't use it
btw - is there a way to mark the animal or spot via binoculars on map ? like in classic
Not really but if you use the binos and "spot" them it will indicate on the map (or huntermate if close enough) where it was last seen.
really? i think I already tried that but with no success. I spotted the animal but was not marked on map... will try again
any tips on diamond hunting in Parque
run as fast as you can
Gather need zones, kill males from the zones but don't kill more than 3 in same spot so hunting pressure won't delete the zone. The males will spawn back but might spawn as bigger ones. Explore a lot and keep eyes out for big tracks which you can follow. Not much else you can do. Get lucky? haha
@teal breach use my sheet so you got basic diamond info and you can see what gun is best for what animal
@celest steeple
I just noticed something on your PF spreadsheet. 300g arrows give zero integrity on the cinnamon teal? That must be a first, usually those are ideal for rabbits and fowl...
let me test
@queen yarrow Fixed, thanks for the heads up
Np 😃
Couldn't get it to work @queen yarrow
Aw, that sucks :/ I wish there was a way for me to give you the folder directly
that would have made things easier
@compact knot
Yeah, thanks for helping anyway. I've started a new game and have done the ammo glitch so that's something lol
@compact knot
For the record, it is a good idea to make a backup of your saves every once in a while, to avoid these situations. It's in the place I told you before, just copy that folder and place it elsewhere for safekeeping.
I mean your actual saves not the ones I sent you. 😛
Yeah, will do
@queen yarrow @compact knot Did you use the player.something file?
I KNOW it should work in the case of lost/corrupted saves, even if you have hit new game
Restores stats but replaces your gear, perks, skills and money with the original files owners
@proud mist
No, I compressed my whole save folder unto a 7zip and sent it to Fred but they were having issues on their end on how to use it.
I wanted to send the folder as is to facilitate things but discord doesn't allow it.
what are good medved tent spots?
What animal class are the lions at?
Well you can keep integrity with the 470 I think
where do i get/go to shooting range ?
There is one in Hirschfelden bottom right corner
Like a separated island. And archery range is in Parque Fernando
i look forward to hunting a lion but im gonna have to wait until they are out of beta
Not sure whether to be impressed or worried; there's a surprising lack of critical reports regarding the beta... either it's more fine-tuned than before or there's not enough people thoroughly testing it to be certain.
Out of curiosity, would you guys mind if they replaced mule deer in Fernando with fallow
I wouldn't mind but then where would you place the mule deer? In the overpopulated Layton reserve?
^ this
bighorn too
jackrabbit
and geese
or pumas too but
alot of recycling
grizzly wolf
do u mean grizzly bear and wolf
is there a way to "reset" a map at all? including all the missions and such?
im tired of this constant rain on fernando from the goldmine mission and i want to play on it badly, but the rain annoys me so muchthat im driven away from it
i would, if the mission wasnt bugged :P
yeah this mission is bugged forme
i can unload my entire stock of ammo on it and it still just sits there
im surprised this bug hasnt been fixed considering the impact it has on the map
It worked for me when I shot from closer range
Yeah just stand on it 😂
How worth is scent remover
I have the same question as @celest steeple . Is the scent remover a bit of god-mode no scent equipment or is there a scale/randomness to how well it works?
from what I've seen
sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
sprayed myself twice to make sure and I still spooked a bear by staying absolutely still
in the brush
no raised vision or sound indicators
My guess is that it depends on the animal difficulty
And how good that animals sense of smell is in the first place
@celest steeple @young star
The scent eliminator doesn't make you undetectable, it merely masks a portion of your scent so you can get closer to your prey before it runs away. It's definitely not a "god-mode" tool for laziness or sloppy hunting.
To clarify, animals will still be able to smell when from downwind, specially if they have good noses or have already been alerted to your presence. Using scent lures, the scent eliminator and the layout blind (from geese DLC) should, in theory, wield better results when hunting under these circumstances.
The blind covers about 20% of your scent (according to it's stats) which combined with the scent eliminator (unknown number) and the scent lures (theory is they can somewhat conceal your scent from that particular species), means you should have a wider time frame to get a good shot... better use long ranged weapons in these situations though.
Don't forget, hunting upwind is still more efficient and practical than all these things combined.
I have a rather odd question about mallard DLC - do I need to get the DLC in order to see and kill ducks? Or is DLC just for lures, shotguns and blinds ?
Just for the shotgun, lures and blinds. You can still see ducks in water and shoot them with the shotguns which come with the game. It's just more efficient to hunt them with the dlc.
It's hard to sneak up on the ducks and take a shot, they spook easily
@compact knot is this a subliminal hint for me to buy the missing map?
If you wanna hunt ducks then you gotta get the dlc, it's pretty cheap tho.
dammit guys .. you are like a little devils on my left shoulder ...
whispering in my ear ... spend spend spend 😃
who's gonna feed my kids? the meat I hunt down in COTW is too hard to chew for them
@heavy hamlet I actually like using the goose DLC shotgun on ducks, and it works pretty well. Plus, ducks aren't the sharpest creatures, so they won't see you coming if you sneak through the reeds 😈 seriously though, COTW DLCs can get pretty pricy
@rustic raven It's not the individual purchases that are pricy, it's when they add up
kernal is right ... I've played classic (still do), that's the real money sink ...so i guess eventually I'll get the missing dlc ...
@heavy hamlet Not counting gun purchases, any game where you have to pay to keep accessing the content (at least the majority) is already a money sink 😂
how much do backpacks affect you?
in my experience (which was a while ago) a lot, and are generally not worth the extra space for the sheer amount they increase noise and visibility
even the smallest pack is enough to make hunting extremely difficult to do
backpacks really could do with reworking . too much penalty for use makes them in general a waste of time to use.
I bought the smallest one and standing still is one bar of sound
One fucking bar
What the hell
Standing completely still
Oh yea I hate backpacks
But I use them because I need to fit all the good guns
for some maps
Is there anything along the trail in the North East of the Norden subsector of Layton Lakes?
Basically the NE corner of the Northern Ridge sector/area. There's nearly 2km of trail that links Norden Eastern and Norden Northern outposts, but no indication there's anything along it except maybe easter eggs.
Yeah, tons of jackrabbits and elk. That's where I do most of my elk hunting, actually
Northern Outpost does have a lot of elk around it, but I approached it from the West. Cool, good to know it's a good hide for elk.
Well, everyone's map is different, so keep that in mind 😉
I didn't realize there was that much variability in animal placements: exact locations of need zones being different makes all the sense, but that some areas would have totally different populations is a different thing.
That longass road there tends to have some half decent bear spawns as well but the terrain is iffy
Yeah, a maps' population and animal concertation tend to change from person to person. It depends on how you treat it; if you over-hunt or try to be careful. Also spotting influences how often you're likely to encounter said species.
So anybody publishing maps of general animal areas is full of shit then?
I am not talking about need zones specifically, I am talking about areas in which those zones can spawn and which type of zones.
No, those are alright.
Because, despite maps being a little different for everyone, there are some things that remain equal for all.
That's what I was saying.
So general guidance like the 2km area NE in Norden having elk/bear/jackrabbits is fine.
Plateu in Vurhonga being hare heaven
Yeah, though a beginner may have a different experience because maps need time to grow and to spawn animals in further regions.
There's actually one post on steam that everyone keeps sending pics on discord of, though everyone knows about it already, it's so publicized. I think the user was something along the lines of Xi Law, and it's got general tips on where to find animals on all maps
Yes, and if you're zipping everywhere in an ATV unlocking Outposts then maps tend to look very barren
Yes, that's exactly the reference I was just about to Google to show you what I meant by the difference between "general areas in which animals will spawn" and specifically maps of need zones, which will differ from player to player.
However, there are certain zones on each map that are guaranteed to be the same across the playerbase (Willipeg for blacktail, that giant lake on the eastern side of Medved for moose and reindeer, etc.)
Yeah, I feel like each region have their own "theme" when it comes to animals. Rinderland is the hotstop for bison for example.
And Rotwald for red deer
^and Tichenau for bison too
Rinderland includes tichenau 😛
my bad
@autumn sparrow @queen yarrow @wicked moat - thanks for your discussion on this and the spawning. Learnt some stuff! I was particularly interested in how you were saying that beginners need time before the maps populate more readily. I'm suprised there isn't a pinned post in this channel for "Beginner claims there is no animals" or "beginner doesn't see tons of deer like on those youtube videos" type helpful factoids 😄
I sometimes crawl on my belly from one place to another with autorun and it still doesn't see anymore animals (eliminating or de-risking most of the sound / sight / smell aspects)
Can anyone confirm whether or not Wind Prediction (last tier on Stalker) actually reduces your noise whenever the wind picks up?
@near haven 😉
@rustic raven
After doing a more thorough research on Wind Prediction, it seems like it is just a waste of a point. According to the codex and posts from 2017, strong gusts already mask some of the noise you make so all the skill provides is a way to predict when and how much the wind is going to change so you can take advantage of it... similar Weather Prediction for fog and rain.
Neither of which do anything for you if you pay attention to what the gameworld is doing.
Heavy rain and thick fog do affect my visibility, the dilemma here is the wind... I have yet to see it mask my noise. Just climbed a mountain under strong gusts and it didn't do jack, same on fields.
I don't know if it's a mechanics issue or a GUI issue in that regard. If it's that the GUI indicator for noise does not reduce itself in the presence of high ambient noise (wind) that's one thing, but if the engine models it at all, I can't tell. I haven't noticed a significant difference, but I also haven't done something like "stand up and walk during wind gusts" because usually I've got LoS on an animal and don't want them to see me standing up even when the wind is up... and even if it is modelled, if that's your tactical circumstance most of the time (as it is for me), then it's kind of a moot point.
I would still like to know if night matters for anything other than the player. It's not clear; a lot of animals have better night vision than humans but not all of them.
I don't think night affects animals.
The only thing I've heard night doing is that it increases the chances of rares showing up.
I'll believe that. I've seen higher level animals at night and into early dawn in the appropriate night time feed zones than I have during the day.
I mean, even if the dark did something it all depends on what kind of animal you're up against. Higher difficulty game with good senses will always be harder in general, day or night. Besides, less visibility at night could be countered by noise, as everything's quieter than in the day. At least as far as common sense goes... no idea if that's into the game.
Yeah, it should reduce your visibility somewhat but this is not indicated on the UI. Animals don't benefit from perfect vision at night: they see better than humans, but they're still affected by the dark. What that means is you should be able to move upright without being spotted instantly from across a 300m wide field.
The thing with animal senses is that only of them has to "go off" for the animal to high tail out there.
So even if they don't see you that far, they will be able to hear you walking around.
We do have figures on what the "audibility" of movement states is though; one orange bar is only audible/spooks to 100m, is it not?
Additionally we need some kind of upright slow walk movement mode, because that's how most stalking is done: not as an exercise in quad and glute strength from the crouch. 😉
Depends on what you think the max is. My old estimations was that the cap for visibility was 100m, 150m for noise and 200m for scent.
But it might just be they're all 150m
Again, i also depends on the animal.
And the animal's level, yes
The last figures I heard were that at a full sprint through brush - so maximum noise the GUI indicates with full orange bars - you're spooking everything in a 250m radius.
I honestly have no idea... this is one of the things I wish the devs had made clearer from the get go.
People say that because the ATV scares everything in a 300m radius, and it makes 3 red bars of noise, that means 3 red bars = 300m.
All of the engine mechanics being clarified would be welcome, especially as they make changes.
Because I don't know if I'm seeing bugs when things change or if this is an intended change, right?
Yes, that's probably where those numbers came from.
That's the thing, 300m is a lot. It doesn't make sense that we running around at full red bars means we're doing as much noise as a quad.
I'm not wearing cement boots with whistles and bells all over me. I think...
Right.
I've noticed from walking around that most areas only have ~100-200m visibility anyway. There are exceptions obviously; when you get on high ground and can see down into nearby fields, so on, you can range out to the render limit at 400m very quickly. Layton Lakes especially you have a bunch of contour lines you can be on that'll let you see out well beyond render range and up to maximum LRF return range of 1km.
But for the most part you're in fairly dense woods with lots of undergrowth, you're moving from fairly compact field to fairly compact field, and there are contour lines acting as intervisibility lines "compartmentalising" the terrain.
So I absolutely get why some folks insist that if you move faster than a walk on clear ground with two white bars you're basically screwed for coming across good quality animals.
I know this is a bit late, but yeah, I'd be nice if the devs posted official numbers and stats on noise, scent, and visibility.
I wish the noise meter would better correspond to the noise a player was making. Sometimes, ill be running through water and only have 2 bars, but as soon as i get back on land the meter goes up to 1 red, even though the actual noise is quieter
^this
^this
I can tell you that lately the noise you make when you are standin next to a bush or tree trunk is now like 2 bars and you're just standin still. It used to be zero bars and flat lined for visibility but not anymore, you are still not seen but you are heard like your movin in the crouched position slowly.
Seems like they fix one thing and mess up 10 others.
Are you on console or PC? Mine does not do this on PC.
I am on PC.
The closest I have is that I don't have noise indicator bars at all but I can hear the leaves rustling. I move very slightly and the noise stops. That's not a good bug to have.
Do we know if animal line of sight is interrupted by the whole bush? If you're behind a bush, but not in it, and they are looking past the bush towards you, they won't see you unless you're on their side of the bush / move around the bush, hey?
I would assume it blocks their line of sight, but I'm not 100% sure
It seems to through the center of the bush object, but the degree of camouflage conferred by for example a branch or the edge of a bush is not clear.
@rocky lodge
Are you wearing a backpack? Those increase your noise even when you're standing still.
I have a small one on.
@rocky lodge
There's your problem
Fanny packs and backpacks increase your noise even when you're standing still, it says so in their description and stats... it's not the game's fault... 😉
@queen yarrow Well, that sucks
?
The backpacks. You'd think that if you stood still you wouldn't make any noise. Maybe the backpack is heavier so it makes you breathe harder, which results in the animals hearing you. 10/10 realism
I don't get it either but one day suggested that the wind blowing through certain materials make more noise than, say, something made of buckskin.
I still think that's BS for fanny-packs though
It's BS anyway
Who knows? Maybe my breathing harder theory is the actual reason why they added that!
And the devs stated it was a "gameplay over realism" thing if I remember right
I think in order to compensate for the noise backpacks do, clothing should actually offer better concealment then.
Like in Classic.
Possibly the backpacks should be making more noise when walking through bushes and shrubbery, but not standing still
But I guess there's some people out there that doesnt like giving people the option there. Doesnt make people better shots, just lets them carry the needed gear
^the inventory system is already a nightmare in how little space you have to work with
I mean, backpacks at this point are just sort just there for those who want to make their game deliberately harder. No one else uses them after knowing their effects so may as well not even have them and just force people to be more practical with their loadouts.
Yuuuup
I mean, I use the largest along with the ATV if I plan to set a tent somewhere but thats it
Other than that... well, they are frankly wasted
Plus, I wanna carry 5 rifles, 2 tents, a blind, and my handguns.
^Lol, not going to happen.
I just want my rifles
Because if the game forces me to use one on each species then I just have to do it that way
But Ivory, it's "just a game" 😜
Like, hunters IRL only bring a gun or two with them because when they go hunting they are after a specific target, whereas in the game we basically shoot anything we come across, big or small.
Yeah, I've seen them take like one rifle, a handgun for personal protection, and a pair of binoculars
But it seems to me that the main people calling for more noise in backpacks are bow mains
Who doesnt have to carry much ever
1-2 bows and a pile of arrows
That's true, but bow mains tend to carry at least one other gun, in my experience. Bows have too little range to really be effective.
I'm trying to re-acquire my taste for bows. Sometimes I think their biggest advantage is that you only really need one weapon for everything, and that's more tempting than you may think.
I love handguns but whenever I go out I try to keep to only take two. It forces me to do a lot of heart shots (hey, free practice!) on bigger game just so I don't have to take the .457 as well.
I mean, I like guns for the range they provide myself
More "secure" and all
But the integrity system really makes using them an annoyance from time to time
At one point I was only using bows because I found that, like you, there are very versatile. But at some point, I realized that with a gun I could take out 10x the amount of animals in the same period of time than with a bow. So, I took guns and never looked back.
There's always 1-2 species I have to "leave alone" if I go full gun build
Yeah, once the new update goes live and the threshold for QK bonus goes up by 60% in general, I'm not going to need the .457 at all. xD
If they fix the RNG and make bows actually effective at their max zeroing range, I think I'd make them that much more viable and I'd give them another shot.
Does anyone know what's the scare radius on compound bows?
and weapons it's 150m?
250
Damn
don't quote me on that
Yeaaah, if the QK bonuses go way up a lot of things will be fixed, I agree
It'll really allow for whole different style of play. Since I first got the game and learned about spine shots, that was the one thing I looked for on the animal. Now, it's gonna be lungs or heart. We'll have to see how that change of mindset goes
I'd have done lung shots more often if they didnt ruin my trophies more than braining them did
Add that neck shots were the "only" option from behind
Oh yeah, neck shots are gonna be in a bad position now.
In regards to the update, ATM if you shoot a moose in both lungs with the Rhino .454, it will run 5 kilometers and die. By increasing the amount of time before the quick kill starts going down, it really doesn't fix the problem. The moose still runs 5 kilometers. I'm not going to care whether he still has 100% QK by then
I'm wondering if they're going to make lung shots more damaging rather than just tweaking stats here and there.
Just.aim.for.the.heart.
Really, practice your shots and it will feel 10x more rewarding. Animals drop on the spot even with slightly weaker calibers.
No doubt heart shots are satisfying. I go for them whenever possible. But if spine shots are nerfed, and lung shots still remain an inconvenience (as in the animal crosses too much distance before death), I'm thinking about the grind. Currently, I've gotten past the majority of the grind, but for newer players, if heart shots are the only viable option, that grind is going to also be 10x longer. That's what I'm worried about.
might I add that COTW already has a very long grind
You're supposed to get better along with that grind.
Really, only bigger animals are an actual pain when it comes to lung shots. You do a DLH on normal and smaller critters and it's usually their instant death.
Bigger animals an unnaturally larger health pool combined with "thicker skin". It's why a double lung shot doesn't kill them as fast as a similar shot placement in a smaller animal.
I totally agree with you: the grind is important for skill development. However, I've spent many a weekend going on river runs on Layton to grind out moose to buy weapons and level up. Smaller and normal animals (including deer like blacktail) don't really jump out at me as good "grind" options. However, this is all from my POV. You probably have a completely different view on the game.
Ducks, my friend. Ducks
Just find 2 or 3 good spots and cycle through them all day long, that will level your guns faster than tracking anything for 30ms.
And if your aim is good, you can bag more than 1.
Before the duck update was when I did most of my moose grinding, and I still see them as the best option (for cash, not necessarily just XP).
But, anyhow, that's my $0.02. Only time will tell, and that time is Feb 5th.
Oh, that's the official release date?
Yeah, all platforms
Yussss, can't wait! 😄
Liooooonnnnsss
BUG FIXES!
BUG FIXES!!!!
I mean, my game's not that bad, most bugs I've stumbled upon are more annoying than actual deal-breakers but ya know... anything that promotes stability and improves the overall gameplay is good in my book. Perhaps just as important as new content.
^I'd toast to that
When you're like me and animals I kill like to teleport their dead corpses 300 meters away, bug fixes are even better
RNG was both kind and cruel to me the other day.
I found a mythical fox that had gotten stuck in place but my consecutive harvest had been ruined previously so I had to let it go. 😢
But... You coulda waypointed it, and gone and got your consec up
The menu bugged out when I clicked on Continue and gave me a New Game instead. Luckily that profile was new so it didn't upset me as much.
Grandchild
Oh please, no...
I stepped on Vurhonga once some days ago, just to see how it was. The fact the warden keeps referring to as "grandchild" is going to grater my ears throughout the whole thing.
The cringe is real.
I know right? 😂
If I had a dime for every time he said grandchild, I'd be rich by the end of the week
I know he's just an old dude trying to be endearing to us but... it's like being called a kid by someone who's 10 years older than you. Like. No.
I know I'm 26, pretty young compared to the average player here, but I ain't no kid! >:|
Damn right you ain't! What makes me laugh, though, is how by calling the player grandchild, he manages to get away from actually mentioning your name, like with all the other maps. You never do know your characters name
Not just your name but your gender as well. I understand why they did it, but it's still cringey.
Or maybe it's a common thing in certain regions of Africa and I'm just culturally ignorant.
Possibly, but then again, your grandfather doesn't refer to you as grandchild. He calls you by your name.
It's just making me cringe now, imagining that...
It's funny; when we're referring to our parents we just call them mom and dad but if it's the other way around it's just cringey. Well... not quite... some parents do refer to their children as such.
That's one of the facets of life that never ceases to amaze me.
"By the way, daughter, can you do such and such"
Versus
"How's it going, mom?"
Hey, trying calling your parents once by their given names. See how they react. xD
I have a friend that does that. Gives me shivers just thinking about it.
That and when we're going on the street and someone refers to you very formally.
I think I shrivel a little inside.
Also, that moment when you are with non-family members and your parents refer to each other by their given names when you are used to hearing your parents call each other "mom" or "dad".
Makes you think that you have somehow ended up inside Inception.
Something's wrong with the world
Anyhow, on another note, I want to Rhino .454 a lion. In the face.
^ -brain-
At least it's deadlier that way.
😛
Speaking of which, I still need to get that achieve for shooting animals in the brain.
I've been playing for hundreds of hours, and have hit I don't know how many animals in the head, and they die instantly, but I just never got the achievement.
Maybe someday
I mean, how hard is it to headshot 10 animals
10. Animals
sneak in SAM
why did my shoot scare other animals even though they were 300m away and i insta killed the animal
@celest steeple
What map were you on?
Because pumas have a tendency to scare all nearby game.
africa
killed a gemsbok
scared the other gemsbok
but then did it again on a different lot
nothing happened
afternoon all, So I recently learnt you can play "game warden" and basically go around spotting animals and need zones and that helps at least increase population on the maps. Is this actually true? I mean I have no problem with basically leaving alone "lone" animals and only taking the males from the herds (however slow that is going to make the XP grind)
I was walking up and down layton lakes near the water. the visibility across allows for me to actually see animals before they see me (glorious idea I know) so I just wondered what other peoples tips and tricks are for maintaining animal populations and finding decent animals to kill
@near haven
Animals can spawn anywhere, and they will continue to do so despite your best or worst efforts, but spotting them seems to increase the likelihood of seeing more of that particular species around. It is important to discover and preserve need zones because they are sometimes linked to spawn nodes and if you encounter a rare somewhere, in a particular area, chances are more will come out of it.
In the past, if you stumbled upon a need zone with only one individual, it was recommended to leave said animal alone because in killing it you risked losing the need zone as well; the animal associated to with no longer existed, causing the node to despawn along with it. Nowadays that rarely happens... no idea of intended or just a bug... though there is a caveat.
Now, so long as you discover the need zone BEFORE harvesting the lone animal, it will remain there on the map. For the most part at least. I've adopted a new strategy because of this; I don't collect the animals I kill right away, instead I follow their tracks back to where they came from in the hopes of finding a need zone. Or at least I try, it also depends on the distance and my mood.
Also, the number of animals associated to a need zone tends to grow, or at least change, each session. Now it's one but in the future you could have a small group or a whole herd in there.
I guess there is a direct correlation between how many animals I'm seeing these days and the fact that I don't run everywhere and I try and scope out places like lakes and hills because of better visibility
but my god. crouchrun is soooo slow
thanks again for your input @queen yarrow
I don't find the default walk to be a bad thing: it's not good, but you can move between areas easily enough (reasonably quickly) without spooking everything (only L4+ animals in my experience) in a 200m radius or more like running will, you can spot tracks easily enough and follow up on them reasonably fast, you'll trigger warning calls and can start moving quietly after that.
With regards to the grind, do people just not enjoy playing the game or what's the issue there? I found it a bit slow at first because I had no idea what I was doing, but doing storyline and side missions and just walking from A to B for those and killing things along the way with decent shooting has bumped me up to L42 very quickly.
@wicked moat
Some people don't like the grind because it gates skills and perks that are fundamental to their playstyle. They want everything unlocked from the get go so they can focus on what is actually important, not dealing with an RPG element that, to them, feels out of place on a hunting game.
Keep in mind, not everyone wants or likes to do missions. Leveling through kills only must be excruciating... I mean, even mission-doers can tell you how slow progress is now imagine it without them. Then we have those who lost everything to a bug and have to climb the whole mountain again just to get to where they were before...
has anyone ever got a diamond scrub hare?
do those even exist
@queen yarrow : Yeah, I thought the grind was stupid and then simply just did what I could and got on with it. I'm not too interested in the missions myself, but inasmuch a they're a means to an end; and since I refuse to shoot red fox for my own reasons I'm obviously "stuck" on an early Hirschfelden story mission.
In terms of 'balancing' I don't know that this is a valid concept for a SP / noncompetitive MP game. At the same time I understand the desire to not, as devs, have everything available from the get-go; one loses player interest quickly in this way.
grandchild
If I sit in a bush in an unpopulated spot and spam me bleat will i eventually get a buck?
Yes, but you might be waiting a long time
@Logidot
Not the most efficient way of hunting, that's for sure. Deer will have to walk within earshot of the caller to be attracted to it and the bleat only has a 150m range... plus there's a small chance they may just ignore it.
@Logidot#7005 I agree with Ivory, it's not very efficient (for the reasons he mentioned), and whitetail deer are the kings of ignoring callers. You'd probably be more efficient if you actively looked for deer and then used the caller. You'd have more success then.
@proud mist brought the discussion here cause I need tips, I have yet to come across a single 9 in any of my maps, heck this was the first 8 I had seen anywhere too. I know they are supposed to be rare but seems like you got a few of them. How did you find them?
WELL. The diamond difficulty varies from species to species and they seem more common on Parque than other maps. In the buffalo case I've found pretty much all of my diamonds along the "coastline"
Ignore the small circles, had to nab an image off of Google
The "worm" is where I find most of my large water buffs
@plush gust
Diamonds are supposed to be rare; you could go several weeks or even months without ever seeing one, it all depends on your luck. Parque Fernando has the highest ratio so far when it comes to spawning one, ducks, pumas and buffaloes are the most common from what I've heard.
Ducks are the least common for me wont lie ^
Ok good to know
I'll just have to keep looking then bound to find one at some point right?
Now checking my list here... 3 of my diamond water buffs were down in the lower right area on that map
But yeah basically
Yeah, keep track of need zones where you've seen really high levels and there's a chance one day a diamond may come out of it.
Did I go overboard with the decoys? I don't know how many there are I lost count....
i got that many
I think you may have gone overboard. The decoy's effects only stack up to 20 so the rest is just going to waste, plus I don't know if it's a thing or not but that many objects may block your aim from hitting a good duck.
@plush gust
@plush gust i swear to god i got the exact same place as you
can you provide a pic of the area
It's the area close to the broken work equipment....
by the large log
@rustic raven I don't have any pics of that area and I moved them from there they didn't land close enough for my liking there.
ye p sure same spot lol
me raven and another dude put a setup there
nothin
for like 20 mins
saw 2 flocks
aww man yeah I got a couple flocks to land but they were more out towards the middle of the water area
and I couldn't really hit them from where I was sitting
I found a better location I would have to log in to see it and take a pic
I can get them to land fairly close to where you can hide completely in the brush right off the edge of the water.
Yes
yes
also. Diamonds. What are diamonds. One day I'll get a sweet sweet diamond.
I've got to retrain myself on my guns first. learn the heart and double lung shots
I'm a bit worried this means soft tip bullets are even more useless than they were before 😦
They always were, I'm afraid.
This game rewards you for killing animals quickly and expansion bullets were never meant for that, as they are bleed their targets to death rather than dropping them on the spot.
Now, if they make expansion bullets make better use of their spread to hit small targets, like the spinal cord, people may reconsider.
when will I be able to taxidermy my trophies ?
Do you have Parque Fernando?
@heavy hamlet
yes
I believe you have to do a chain of quests in order to unlock it.
Someone else correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's carolina's challenges.
Then you'll gain access to your trophy lodge, where you can mount your kills.
so that means i need to finish the mission with all the diamonds ?
I think if you manage to get a diamond before that it will trigger the quest.
Start one of them and see if that does it. No idea if only have to start it or finish it.
i mean i've finished the mission with that taxidemy guy ... and i thought that would be it
but i guess i was wrong
I haven't played PF yet, only read what other people have said. Someone else may have a better clue on what to do.