Sbmm

[open wasp]

Is this like some sick joke this game feels like call of duty at this point with the bad matchmaking. Feels like a toxic manipulation tactic to try and keep people engaged. Like its social media this game hasn't felt the same for the last 2 updates. Soulless matchmaking just no point of ranked anymore.

[limpid hill]

there is sbmm and mmr lol

[open wasp]

I'm assuming you cherry picked what you read... Like I said, it's starting to feel like Call of Duty "sbmm" even though its really Intermittent Reinforcemen more common words and phrases would be: moving the goal post, false hope and probably more common for people nowadays gaslighting/control. This manipulation tactics work by making the initial attempt almost impossible to win, they manipulate the difficulty. When they allow a win later, it reinforces the belief that if you just try harder or wait, you will get what you want.

[limpid hill]

The game doesn't have eomm even tho it does feel like it sometimes

[open wasp]

Please reread everything... Because it seems like your talking to someone else or the voices in your head tbh...

[open wasp]

A comparison, it is literally me stating that this is what it feels like to make it easier reference for more common people to latch onto aka understand

[limpid hill]

I did. What you described is EOMM. Which this game doesn't have

[open wasp]

Again you're correcting somebody who's not even here. It 's a comparison!

[limpid hill]

Very well
No the game doesn't optimise your expected win and losses to make you want to keep queueing

[open wasp]

Not everybody knows what s b m m is and e o m m is so comparison was used..

[open wasp]

Why even reply to this? Replying like an AI on repeat 😐 like and feel are adjectives and also a verb these are things meant for expression. I am making comparisons.Similarities, there was no question of it being like that? I am making a comparison, so why are you repeatedly telling me something I already know?

[limpid hill]

If you know it doesn't exist why do you complain about it

Im just making sure u know that feature doesn't exist in this game

[open wasp]

Please, for your sake, before you look more condescending, go and figure out what's similarities in comparisons are... And you're confusing this for a complaint.When this is an observation, another thing you should go and look up and read... Dictionaries are wonderful things, along with the thesaurus, they're very good to help you with a lot of the misinterpretations.You are displaying here.

[limpid hill]

The only way they could remove this feeling of yours is to actually add eomm to make it feel like a more natural 50 50 win loss ratio. Win one lose one etc
Loss streaks suck I understand but they can't change a feature that doesn't exist

Theres also no need for insults to people's intelligence. I simply asked a question

[open wasp]

I didn't mean that why I edited it.🙏

[open wasp]

This isn't it though like, I stated in the very first comment. This has only been a feeling for the last 2 to 3 updates this was never a thing before.This was never this evident. This comment was only put here, because I also was hearing these same things from others. Because they feel like they are playing on their alt accounts more. Because of this coincidence that has been going on for like I said the last few updates.

Now I am aware there could be multiple things at hint. The influx of people again
But that's a very small portion, and most of those as we've seen with other datas from previous seasons and updates that most people.When they come back for an update, usually leave and don't really come back.Tell the next one within the first week or two. That's a small factor in the grand scheme. Just like the example I used Call of Duty. They never admitted it. There was having to be files, leaked of people. Doing illegal activities to find out their actual code source and how it operates in order for their fanbase to figure that out that they were truly manipulating. Nobody's going to come out and say that they're manipulating...

[grim herald]

There's just one problem with this type of MM there is no way to accurately predict player performance consistently enough to do this. Silver players in the right conditions can play like plat players and vice versa so they somehow have to find the perfect player to manipulate your game when there are multiple variables they don't have control of

[open wasp]

Huh... Call of duty code sure said otherwise... its been confirmed for several games befor this game had footing... even arc raiders has an even more in depth for lack of better words atm game segregation method. It's more then possible.

[grim herald]

There's no real proof games are using this aside from a patent. Game segregation method is just MM I don't think u understand how complex eomm has to be to consistently work even if omeda wanted to pull this of I doubt they have the resources to pull it of

[open wasp]

You're just showing me your ignorant... Literal game developers on live stream, asking questions about how their matchmaking is made.And it's literally determined on how you talk and interact with people along with how aggressive and et cetera, they went into great lengths on arc creators and how they did it, and also like i've said in previous comments, there has been several people that have dug into the files of call of duty and proven that they have the capability of doing such things.

[grim herald]

Nothing u said is proof tho u haven't shown any evidence and again u don't understand what ur implying if it's not skill based match making how are the best competitive players consistent reaching high ranks of MM isn't based on skill

MM that determines how u talk and interact + how aggressive you play is not enough for eomm or has to perfectly predict the outcome of matches so it can lead u on. I could maybe see it working in games like cod and arc but not in MOBAs its just to complex

[grim herald]

Like sbmm works exactly how the thing ur complaining about works. MMR goes up when ur on a win streak eventually u will face people Better than you force a loss streak to drop u down again if u lose enough ur going to get dropped down below ur level then u start climbing again

Somehow eomm has to predict the role u play and that someone beat u in a 50/50 to get that role

Or that ur jungle made the wrong decision costing you the objective bro if omeda had this they would run the industry

[limpid hill]

i agree some games do have predatory matchmaking systems
activision holds a patent for a microtransaction based matchmaking system, putting you with people with skins you dont currently own to convince you to buy them among other things

[grim herald]

Yea but that's still very different from eomm op is describing

[limpid hill]

it is

its just a fun shitty fact that the company who made cod owns that patent

[grim herald]

Lol

Every video I watch about eomm always starts with a disclaimer I have no proof of this just of vibes

[limpid hill]

yup

i dont think any game has officially come out and said they use it

marvel rivals had a big scandal recently

[open wasp]

I feel like you're not even reading... Reread and come back when you understand. Your talking is cycles...😐 i don't need to drop a link to show proof that game devs have explained that it is possible. But the main thing that is probably the real reason is the people that play predecessor are extremely toxic, self absorbed and inflated egos. Solo q is the worst experience I've had. I've been Dimond 1 stuck all season except this season its like I can only get disconnecting/quiting toxic teammates and blocking does literally nothing ill get them the next game... reporting is useless 😒 matches where fun till this update something has changed with how they match make.

[open wasp]

Dont use game chat............. game company have been caught lying before... complexity doesn't = impossible....

[open wasp]

This is all im saying just like when I said this long time ago about cod doing it I was called "crazy" "stop complaining your at the top of the leader boards anyway" like i said back then and called it out 10 years ago then confirmed it 8 years later now I dont sound crazy when devs from several different games explain how all types of mm they use. All im saying is this updates mm is extremely different feeling it feels tomuch like a manipulation tactic...

[open wasp]

The league of legends already runs this industry. Almost nothing they can do to change that.
Look cod took stats away just before they did the manipulation tactics so they couldn't see proof just like omeda.city doesn't have mmr anymore. Claiming its cause people are to mean to people with low mmr for the reason for removing it. So now I have to use a 3rd party app to see mmr/ps to see that yes this shit is rigged. My team averages a 98.9 mmr on average (mine 122) enemies 115mmr thats just the average from my last 54 matches. Not to mention the 50 50 chance that its a 5 stack... like rank isn't ranked anymore quick play have better players rn. Now it could just be that too no one really playing ranked but the toxic ones... that is a possibility.. I also didn't get to complete all my promotion matches; and thats knew too that could also be part of the problem. Im used to being reset to gold 2/3 not bronze... but when im on my alt account I have no problem ranking up im already Dimond 1 on both alt accounts but my main is absolutely filled with bad cod lobby vibes.

[grim herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4IqlPB_AaBI?si=TM7LWdFP9OXkyD9N

Its fine if u don't want to drop support evidence just keep complaining to the void

[open wasp]

Stop trying to put words in my mouth... Literally nowhere on these comments did I state this is a fact this was expressing now it's been feeling this last update.
Like the last update before felt like it was trickling to get to this testing. Nowhere did I say there are a hundred percent doing it.I said it feels, do you understand what the word feels means? Balance mm ig by your logic

[open wasp]

You do know, this is where you put your feedback at right? I hope you're deliberately choose not to make the attempt to comprehend the original comment. Hope this is just trolling and not genuine search for your next internet ego trip.

[open wasp]

https://www.bchlaw.com/video-game-addiction/fortnite-addiction-lawsuit/ Again there is proof the video games have done it. And you can even look it up for the data miners that expose call of duty and how they use their metrics to dictate quality of lobby. "Remember this was a feed back comment originally" do not blatantly, ignore keywords that highlight this is not saying this is 100% what's going on.👌 so please don't put your interpretation of what you read as fact of what I said thank you. Feed backs involve expressing how it felt with said thing.