Quality of life Improvements For Typhoon

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Below are my proposed changes to Typhoon. While these adjustments will generally serve as a nerf to the item, they will also enhance quality of life, item fluidity, synergy, and overall cohesion—key elements I hope to see more of in the game.

Typhoon

+25 Magical Power
    +100 Max Health
    +8 Ability Haste

Cyclone - On Landing Basic Attacks or Casting an Ability:

• Gain a stack of Cyclone On-Hit for 3s (cannot drop below 1 stack).

• Each stack increases your Attack Speed by 4 (+2% Magical Power)%.

• Stacks up to 5 times.

Mirage - 60s CD - Consume Cyclone Stacks:

• Dash a short distance.

• For each stack above 1 consumed the CD of Mirage is reduced by 12.5% up to 50% Cooldown Reduction.

Notes:

• The effect of Cyclone has been adjusted to always maintain one stack. This ensures that a mage using this item consistently benefits from a 4% + 2% Magical Power attack speed bonus. Additionally, stacks can now be gained when casting abilities, extending its uptime. This is primarily a quality-of-life (QoL) change, aimed at making the item more relevant beyond just being a tower-buster.

• Since Cyclone now always has a stack, the Active Effect needed adjustments. To compensate, Mirage's cooldown has been increased, but it now benefits from a cooldown reduction per stack (up to 50%) upon consumption. This keeps its overall functionality relatively unchanged.

• The Typhoon totals have been reduced to balance the improved QoL. Attack speed has been lowered from 5% to 4%, Magical Power scaling has been reduced from 4% to 2%, and the maximum stacks have been adjusted from 4 to 5.

@spare belfry in case you are interested in more of my lunacy.

[spare belfry]

Honestly I think Typhoon is completely fine as is, this change isn’t really necessary imo

One of the best designed crests

[raw harbor]

As someone who has used it it's not it's very clunky doesn't flow well with the intended role and lost much of its original identity that made it strong

Generally Typhoon is effectively the same here all I did was cut back on the scaling and allow it to function with abilities and nerfed it adequately so it isn't the best Crest in the game.

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@sonic pilot Speaking of which thoughts?

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@knotty depot Thoughts on this?

Quality of life Improvements For Typhoon

@thorn bronze Thoughts?

[thorn bronze]

I like it at first but uhhh 60 sec seems pretty steep

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Look again

[thorn bronze]

I like your idea of using abilities to gain stacks. That's more in theme with mages. I always thought it's for ADC (well just grim) just bc of att spd

I know. 50% CDR is still not enough

It's still 30 sec use

[raw harbor]

It's only 10s above original

[thorn bronze]

And does the dash only work after 5 stacks?

[raw harbor]

No it works at any level of stack

[thorn bronze]

Ye it makes it usable once for most of team fights

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1 to 5 stack

[thorn bronze]

Ahh i seen

[raw harbor]

Use it at 1 stack and you need to wait 60s

Use it at 5 stacks and you wait half as much

And with the ability to stack it with abilities it removes the major flaw it has

[thorn bronze]

Ye it's more flexible

I like it

[raw harbor]

It's also usable on mages

A sustained damage for some and it's a boon for heroes with dual scaling or heroes like Kwang and Shinbi

[knotty depot]

This clarified a lot lol. My first read was all over the place. I like it

Typhoon’s problem is it ends up being only a small number magic damage heroes because you need to land basics to access the short dash AND abilities do not count toward stack generation. I’ve forced in on fey but the hop mostly gets used preemptively

[raw harbor]

Yeah generally my change is a QOL change it has been nerfed a bit due to the massive increase in utility it has now

[spare belfry]

Yeah same, reading it now it’s not a bad change. It’s a nerf to how frequently the dash can be casted, as well as a slight nerf to how much attack speed it grants, in exchange for being easier to get stacks and a notable increase in base attack speed. This still wouldn’t make it something frequently used outside of magical on-hit, but I guess it makes it a bit more accessible in that it’s easier to grab typhoon for the dash itself. Immobile mages could benefit from it maybe

[raw harbor]

Yeah that was my intention for example iggy can kit dump and dash away and do it again in 30s.

Reason why there was a 10s increase

If they do this and Prophecy I would be happy I don't care about AP Bruiser anymore

[spare belfry]

That sounds annoying to fight xD I see the vision though. I mean, just keeping it stack off basics and making the dash usable at anytime would make it usable for more mages, but they wouldn’t maximize uptime unless they actually use basic attacks. That would work too really

Keeping the CD reduction on stack mechanic

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Kinda the point it's not like you can spam at best it's a 30s CD so only twice in 30s for a short Dash. It just gives non mobile mages a way to gain distance and AP Marksmen a way to build Attack Speed.

It can also be used by AP Bruisers as they can weave abilities and Basic Attacks

[onyx panther]

why are you trying to tweak a warlock's crest option towards mages? warlock's isnt meant for mages, its for ap bruisers.

also i dont think typhoon needs a nerf in any way. for the bruisers it is meant for, it is usually inferior to tempest. so if anything i think itd need sth that twists it towards something that properly fits bruisers as an alternative to tempest, rather than being a questionable option mostly for hybrid marksman, as well as certain other characters memeing as ap marksman