Harvesters

[random aspen]

Omeda should consider adding harvesters. There could be 1 in each jungle quadrant and another 2 replacing both of the trees blocking vision from mid to sidelines. 4-6 harvesters on the map could be too many for the size of the map so alternatively after about 15 minutes harvesters could spawn replacing the side lane buffs.

This would encourage more aggressive/active play especially around the mid-late game while objectives are down as well as giving pred's jungle more of an identity.

For those unaware harvesters are an objective that existed in paragon for a short while. Once they spawned in they could be activated. After sometime they would become full and you can collect the amber? (This would give your whole team xp ). While the harvesters has not be collected it can be destroyed by enemies, however it also acts as a ward.

[hallow heart]

Maybe.

But two things:

1. 6 is too many. I think 3/4 is enough
2. Adding harvesters would mean reworking the entire economy and item cost

Also side note. Harvesters gave amber (gold equivalent) not xp

[humble kayak]

Harvesters add something extra for junglers to do im all for it. I think it would be better to wait for the new map for this though.

[median ledge]

We don't need harvesters in Pred

[hallow heart]

I agree. Not in in its current state

[rancid junco]

Yeah they need to gank lanes not stand on the spot doing nothing 😂

[sinful solar]

What if you had to cross a lane to access the harvester?

[proven pilot]

Idk harvesters were a neat objective but Paragon’s economy was balanced around it and it also lead to huge snowballing if you lost control of them. There’s enough to worry about with laning phase and current objectives / map awareness, adding something else to constantly babysit like harvesters would ruin flow of the game and make the mid game more brawlly instead of strategic

If we had some other original objective that would fit right into the balance of the game then by all means

Either way though, we literally have no space on our map to add anything else

We need map changes first

[humble kayak]

There's not enough to worry about

The games over simplistic atm

That's why the differences rank to rank are so slim

[proven pilot]

Map too small for anything

Add another obj with this size and it’s brawl mode

[humble kayak]

Why i said new map wait for the new map

[proven pilot]

Yeah

[random aspen]

Harvesters could encourage ganking. For example if there was a harvester in each quadrant and I had a strong botlane. I would clear my weak side camps then activate the harvester on my strong side. While my harvester is mining I would be free to gank mid/bot or potentially invade. After that I can either go straight for my harvester if enough time has passed or clear my weak side camps again then go for my harvester(since I know it's safe with bot prio). Then I can just repeat the process if nothing changes.

In game this is viable without harvesters, but harvesters would add an extra level of depth for both teams as its resources can be stolen or the harvester could be placed in a sub optimal position.

[foggy heron]

hear me out - the harverster come out after fangooth is taken (like right after) and the already beat-down team that just got done taking the fangtooth needs to decide to stick around and collect x,y,z of something or retreat so they don't get wiped

on the other side - the now late to contest fangtooth team needs to decide to all in and get at least contest/defend harvester

they could work just like teleporters do contesting the charge up

it's too good of a resource to not do anything with it - yall can come u with something creative like that

[hallow heart]

Would just lead to the game being even more brawly than it already is

[foggy heron]

true

maybe like after primal only

[hallow heart]

Then that’s too late in the game for harvesters to matter

Harvesters can’t exist on the map we have now

[foggy heron]

what about that shit comes out in mid so it's like mini objective for midlaners to duke it out

like out of the water...

yeah you are right

[hallow heart]

I think your misunderstanding what harvesters do

[foggy heron]

i am just overcomplicating this shit

[hallow heart]

They aren’t something you contest constantly

[foggy heron]

ohh i know what they do I used them on agora

boring as hell standing there

but visually i like wheny they would activate

they had that propller shit that's how you knew they were active

[hallow heart]

Then you know they weren’t contested constantly. Was something you risked as a jungler going for. Remember you also needed a key to activate them

[foggy heron]

it was an item no?

like you had to build it

[hallow heart]

Yeah

[foggy heron]

maybe as just as a visual indicator that the teleporters are now open

you know just like that shit slowly comes out

some star trak shit