Deadlock Megathread - The new Game

[tacit wagon]

knockdown, silence, curse

all of them at the very least help

his camp clearing is honestly pretty ridiculous though

I would be fine if they nerfed his 3 to not have the tesla bullets effect

because that plus the ball is just like

insta clear camp

[elfin umbra]

i'm doing a tournament tomorrow :D

[valid warren]

Whaaaar?

hes been nerfed sorry

rise and grind, gordon freeman... rise and grind...

hello i wanna just give advice for developers im played 10+years dota2 17khours im all life rank top 200-400 playing eu server if u guys wanna do better deadlock game ban russians from eu server or make russian server so they dont play eu west server i was in game with 5 russian they speak all game russian language and flame people fight eachother (just fix russian problem or ur game will die soon like dota2)

[whole star]

https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/Proving_Grounds/Cup_1 ?

found you

[wicked dew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whar-whar-what-cat-whar-cat-cat-whar-slow-blink-orange-cat-whar-slow-blink-gif-6291533950402242103

[whole onyx]

@wicked dew has leveled up! (22 ➜ 23)

[elfin umbra]

i didn't name the team myself lol

4 of us are streaming the match at a 3 minute delay tho

[tacit wagon]

Seven is OP, fight me

[leaden anchor]

Skill issue, i spend my time circling around my enemies at mach 10 as they try to escape in fear from me. Peak trolling

It makes this even more funny now that static charge is self castable

[tacit wagon]

i keep forgetting that it is

i'm considering that partially my build is bad, so i'm trying a different one (i found one thats essentially identical but slightly different)

seems like i've had better results?

idk

all things considered, I haven't really dominated as seven since i was like

low af mmr

this game went better (2nd lowest damage lol)

[tacit wagon]

one of those games

the thing that always bugs me about games like this is like

I'm doing badly (2/13 this time), and I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong

I don't know how much of the issue is me and how much isn't

and what I could be improving

it feels like any time I try to like... attack the enemy i just get immediately surrounded

and just die instantly

and I just have no clue if I pushed in too far or what

I think maybe I play too aggressively but like

idk if I play more passively I do 0 damage while the enemy manages to get me down to 25% hp

[leaden anchor]

Take better fights and don't over extend.

You have stupid amounts of movement, its practically impossible to aim shoot you down unless stunned

This is my preffered guide, its a slight modification of another perrson's guide

Once you are done with the farming prep items you pretty much have the ability to solo kill a good number of people

If the enemy couldn't shut you down before you get surge of power (13.25k) you are practically unstoppable

You can skip on Spirit lifesteal and enduring speed if needed to go a slightly more risky route to your snowball ( get them post surge of power )

Surge of power is primarily what starts your snowball and everything after than just enables your rightclick and then enables your ult.

Your ULT early game is more of a cosmetic and a decent area damage tool.

Lategame its an absolute nightmare which can be used for broken amounts of area control and damage

Oh yeah I forgot monster rounds in the build

[tacit wagon]

interesting, thats kinda similar to my build

different order in some places

just today i swapped out infuser for ammo scavenger, i'd been totally missing out with that item

infuser probably is better late game when you're not constantly denying souls, but during laning its a nice way to just get a bunch of spirit

fleetfoot is interesting, I really wouldn't have considered it since seven goes so fast anyway

[leaden anchor]

infuser is really crucial early game when seven is weak, the additional lifesteal and spirit can either save your life or get you a kill

[tacit wagon]

lifesteal sure, but spirit like I said i think ammo scavenger can be better

[leaden anchor]

the lifesteal is alot, it lets you tower dive and ult

and not lose hp despite the enemy focusing on you

you laning partner can freely dive and secure kills after that

[tacit wagon]

ehhhh

in my experience ulting in a lot of scenarios is just a death sentence

[leaden anchor]

you underestimate the power of micro interactions

[tacit wagon]

even with infuser

the lifesteal just isn't enough

[leaden anchor]

then you tried something very stupid

[tacit wagon]

like using infuser and then ulting

[leaden anchor]

the order of the items till surge of power is rather optimized

[tacit wagon]

why enduring spirit first then infuser?

[leaden anchor]

survivability in lane

early lane

if lane is going really bad you would like for your partner to go healing rite

[tacit wagon]

i just feel like infuser fills the same role, and arguably is better

at least for a first item

[leaden anchor]

no

[tacit wagon]

elaborate

[leaden anchor]

it increases your base health

Infuser is active hence conditional

you don't always have the lifesteal

you always have the enduring spirit lifesteal

infuser is supposed to be used when you want to pump out that extra damage onto the enemies

punish them for their mistakes harder

[tacit wagon]

infuser also adds base health, and your cooldowns are long enough early game that you don't really benefit from the lifesteal most of the time

imo

granted, enduring spirit is 25 more max hp

plus the t1 vit item hp

[leaden anchor]

you understimate how much benifits small interactions can have in this game

also ig you didn't notice the +11% base health on enduring spirit

[tacit wagon]

i'm not hyperfixating on numbers midgame, sorry

my brain isn't suited for that

[leaden anchor]

this is early game

numbers matter way more early game

[tacit wagon]

midgame as in mid round

[leaden anchor]

you are a snowball hero

[tacit wagon]

not middle of the game

[leaden anchor]

if you secure earlygame on such heroes practically the game is won

"hyper carries"

[leaden anchor]

optimizing playstyle and item builds play a huge role in dota like games

[tacit wagon]

also to be completely honest, I think being in a situation early game where the extra HP and passive lifesteal of enduring spirit helps before you can buy a second item is... pretty limited

[leaden anchor]

and you aren't going to achieve much with a infuser either

[tacit wagon]

I know that, i'm just saying my brain isn't suited for it

[leaden anchor]

early game if you are in a duo lane there will be two people who will be trying to make your life miserable. enduring spirit helps alot witht he extra hp

[tacit wagon]

you're not going to achieve much either way

[leaden anchor]

you are going to be able to stay in lane longer and secure souls

it achieves alot

the faster you are done jungling and can join the team, the better

[tacit wagon]

wait jungling

we're talking EARLY game

[leaden anchor]

There are different phases in the game

[leaden anchor]

Yes and you need souls to get items to jungle

you can't jungle without those items

the creeps won't die fast enough

[tacit wagon]

who tf is jungling with 1 item

this is irrelevant

[leaden anchor]

;-;

[tacit wagon]

by the time jungle camps spawn you have both items and more

unless you're really struggling

[leaden anchor]

okay you seem to have too little experience in these types of games ;-;

and i kinda don't have the time atm to explain everything

[thick raven]

*and i kinda don't

have the time atm to

explain everything*

- lonely potat

[tacit wagon]

how often have you been in situations where jungle camps spawn and you have 500 souls

and thats it

thats your net worth

maybe the one small jungle camp

[leaden anchor]

basically the faster you snowball the better

[tacit wagon]

but the other jungle camps?

[leaden anchor]

you know how snowballing works?

[tacit wagon]

yes but I don't see how this is relevant

[leaden anchor]

see basically

if you don't get farm within the first 5 minutes and the lane collapses

you won't be able to farm lane creeps without being targetted (you are a easy target)

and you will snowball way slower

[tacit wagon]

ok yes i know this

[leaden anchor]

enduring spirit helps you get as much as you can within the first 2-3 minutes of the lane

infuser doesn't help at all in this case

it increases your hp pool way more than infuser

more hp = more time you can spend taking enemy hits while last hitting the lane creeps

more time spent last hitting = more souls for your next items

[tacit wagon]

idk, i'm not fully convinced tbh

I get the max hp thing but everything else seems... eh?

it seems really like preference imo

[leaden anchor]

and like i said infuser is an item to punish enemy mistakes, you dont' have spells at that point to punish

[tacit wagon]

the only ability that has a cooldown shorter than infusion's CD is ball and stun (if you put a level in it)

[leaden anchor]

once you get your three abilities you can easily punish enemies by timing your infuser

like even kill them

[tacit wagon]

or you can start pushing them back early with infuser and last hit more

[leaden anchor]

you need to watch experienced people play deadlock

just the early laning phase

[tacit wagon]

probably

[leaden anchor]

or just watch an average dota match laning phase

[tacit wagon]

but i'd rather claw my eyes out

oh man i'd REALLY claw my eyes out before doing that

[leaden anchor]

it teaches you alot

[tacit wagon]

like racial slurs

[leaden anchor]

sigh

alright

[tacit wagon]

idk tbh i'm also biased because I hate like

following in others footsteps

i'd rather learn things on my own

and I also hate hyper-optimized metas

[leaden anchor]

learning with guidance never hurts

[tacit wagon]

like if you know every single thing you're going to do, whats the fun in that

granted of course there's more to macro game than that

counters, etc.

[leaden anchor]

dota's early game has similar tropes, its cause how the early game is limited in the items you can buy

beyond early game what you buy is upto you

[tacit wagon]

I guess it does make sense that before you get all your abilities spirit's usefulness is limited

but I still think that an early game infuser can help just put a lot of pressure on someone to back up

even with 1 or 2 abilities

[leaden anchor]

sadly that is not your job, your job is to get the souls

[tacit wagon]

I mean pushing someone back means less contest for them

push them into a position where they might not be able to easily get souls without you being able to deny them

[leaden anchor]

you just don't magically push someone back without them retaliating

and if you have good laning heroes on the enemy team you are going to get harrased the shit out of

seven isn't very strong in the laning phase

[tacit wagon]

i guess

[leaden anchor]

like i said its not your job to harass

you aren't good at it at the start of the game

there are other heroes that can completely destroy you if you try to manfight them as seven during laning phase

heroes that out damage you have have way lower spell cooldowns

[tacit wagon]

idk why, but this convo is kind of annoying me. not your fault at all, but i'm kinda in a bad mood so i'm not really going to have anything else constructive to say

good night

[leaden anchor]

its alright

[leaden anchor]

gnight

[tacit wagon]

i know i said i was going to bed but i did just remember something

i realized earlier tonight that i think an issue that i’m having is that as i’ve played more and gotten more confident, i’ve also gotten way more aggressive, which is just putting me in bad scenarios

so i’m trying to keep an eye on that, and try to stay more passive

[thick raven]

*so i’m trying to

keep an eye on that, and try

to stay more passive*

- treacherousfiend

[valid warren]

problem?

you're not going to see a decline in racial slur usage any time soon

[tiny tundra]

I seem to be good at mcginnis

or maybe they're just kinda overpowered right now idk

[valid warren]

it dozent

[valid warren]

cool spreadsheet .. for .. yes.. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eQofzslbq5TfelmJ-CnVFPQFMc9RYwzeJGMX_XYdHXs/

[tacit wagon]

I played a game with a modified version of my build to match this a bit closer, plus some testing in the sandbox, isn't superior duration imbuing 3 super overkill? I feel like you just get even improved duration, and then start getting other items (spirit armor, suppressor, etc.), potentially even improved spirit, you already have permanent or near permanent uptime on it

i'd get it if it was imbuing a different ability but I feel like the souls for that are best used getting potentially other things which boost spirit to increase duration for that ability anyway

[leaden anchor]

There isn't really a better spell to Imbue SD to rather than your 3.

• Imbue to Ult? Nah without the imbue its long enough already, if you need more time just get a refresher.
• Imbue on Stun? No point, if people find your stun a problem they should have already gotten a Debuff remover

Having that 100% uptime on your 3 helps alot, 3 increases your movespeed and spirit damage (it applies a debuff). You job is to keep running around like a madman shooting at people.

Post activating 3 with fleetfoot you have 25 m/s movespeed. Practically nothing can follow you.

Also yeah without boundless spriit your 3 still doesn't have 100% uptime, getting the duration of your other abilities extended would be better than rushing Boundless Spirit ig

You could probably rush it too and imbue SD to your ULT

[tacit wagon]

well my thought process is improved duration (not superior), then improved spirit

which gets you closer to boundless, buffs more than just 3 duration, and you're not spending that money on a 3k that is essentially outclassed

granted there are other durations that just having the general boost to can be nice

debuff remover doesn't totally make stun obsolete, since it can be on CD or you can use it on yourself, and honestly putting it on ball maybe could be helpful? idk

thats just my opinion tho

I probably should throw fleetfoot into my build

although I am already using that slot for either active relaod or kinetic dash

[wicked dew]

it seems you like Deadlock

[tacit wagon]

nuh uh i hate it, its the worst game ever made and its dogshit and valve should feel bad

[valid warren]

true

continues playing it

[leaden anchor]

hate is a form of love

[rancid escarp]

@valid warren

[velvet flint]

hawk tuah

[leaden anchor]

Seeing a fresh influx of hackers in my region

[tacit wagon]

cool subtle detail in the map, textures which are the same on multiple lanes sometimes are tinted to match their lane (note that the trim on the left is more blue tinted, and the trim on the right is more green tinted)

although yellow lane's tint seems to be... gray

[whole star]

i think this is something theyll probably expand upon later more

[tacit wagon]

oh absolutely

iirc there's some concept art either in the files or that they've shown showing mockups of what they're intending

this isn't the one i was thinking of but it shows a bit off

I can't find it, but there's some image somewhere that shows off mid with some decorations

and it looks very cool

it might've been removed from the files at some point idk

I could dig through old versions to find it, but that would take so long

[coral parrot]

I hope they don't

[whole star]

i trust theyll implement it in a good way

[tacit wagon]

yeah like, literally only the trims are tinted

maybe a couple other things

and as you can see, its a very dull tint

(granted i'm not showing textures in that example, just the tint color)

I'm now reminded why I stopped trying to get the deadlock map into blender

it uses so much god damn ram

a truly disgusting amount

if i try to let it compile shaders it just runs out

[valid warren]

sorry bro i started selling my cheat

[leaden anchor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/109456942702829568/671114750012424206/Counter-strike_Global_Offensive_2020.01.26_-_15.58.30.14.DVR.gif

[noble shell]

Peep the score

[velvet flint]

would you jump for the ivy or be content with the frog

[noble shell]

Ivy for sure

I'm goated

[velvet flint]

parkour prison for you

[tacit wagon]

starting to look like deadlock

I've had to jerryrig together nodes in blender using pre-existing shader nodes for other source 2 games, plus some deadlock specific implementation stuff from source2viewer

also ignore the fact that the world just ends, i deleted a lot of assets to save on ram

hell on earth node groups

I've since added more to this

and there's still SO much that I don't support yet

but i've decided that (for now) its good enough

the only thing I'm willing to add support for rn is blend masks

[thick raven]

*the only thing I'm

willing to add support for

rn is blend masks*

- treacherousfiend

[tacit wagon]

cause rn its just the default per vertex stuff

with some lighting (just randomly placed, not the ingame lighting)

[rancid escarp]

why the fuck is that your username

[wicked dew]

is that Minecraft

[velvet flint]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/moba/valve-chatgpt-deadlock-algorithm/

explains a lot

[whole star]

like what?

[velvet flint]

explains a lot

[whole star]

https://fxtwitter.com/ZPostFacto/status/1841491318197174699

so

it looks like this is literally

like

they asked how to do it and chatgpt explained to them

it didnt like, write code for them

looking at the headline can get you easily misled

so to be fair

i dont see how this is problematic

this is honestly a valid use of this

[velvet flint]

they found the algorithm using chatgpt

explains a lot

[whole star]

ok

which means what exactly

is that, like, bad

like of all the ways ive seen people use ai for game development, this is by far the most reasonable way ive seen it be used

this is literally just a glorified search result

no different to going to google

[merry idol]

how do you know "matchmaking is a bipartite matching problem" but not know about minimum weight bipartite matching

[whole star]

https://fxtwitter.com/ZPostFacto/status/1841493501080674407

[merry idol]

like they're even asking about matching for minimum weights

[whole star]

idk

but like in any case i think this is a very valid way to use this kind of thing

[velvet flint]

ai needs to be illegalized

[whole star]

mhm

yappaholics anonymous

[merry idol]

yeah i dont think its wrong for this use case, its just weird that it was used at all

[whole star]

guess they forgot

https://fxtwitter.com/ZPostFacto/status/1841492893741277468

its pretty good for like

"tip of my tongue" situations

is what hes trying to imply basically

and honestly i get him

i find it very difficult to explain or specify concrete definitions of something

[merry idol]

idk its just like

I want to find a path, preferably one that minimizes the distance of the path from two points given a weighted graph. Is there an algorithm for finding paths?

chatgpt: you may want a pathfinding algorithm

[whole star]

lol yea

i guess maybe its like a fake scenario so he could get what he wanted to say out there without like

idk

talking about what hes working on specifically

[rancid escarp]

this has been one of the good use cases i’ve found for chatgpt

like sometimes i’m trying to think of a word or saying to use

and i describe it in the most dumb way possible but it still gets it

[ionic temple]

i kind off understand nitrerux complain because chatgpt can hallucinate answers iirc

[merry idol]

i think something like this is better because you're then gonna go look it up normally and read up on the topic, so if chatgpt tells you nonsense then you'll figure that out pretty quick

[rancid escarp]

i mean this one is pretty verifiable

i wouldn’t say it’s any different than like a google search card. we’ve had those for years

[lyric locust]

it's just tip of my tongue stuff

[whole star]

i dont think thats what they had in mind

[merry idol]

id feel pretty silly if the tip-of-my-tongue was essentially just the same words I used, is what im saying

[lyric locust]

idk i just feel like this sort of stuff where you're missing the word of the algorithm

it's really helpful to use chatgpt as a search engine because that's essentially what it is, it's basically pagerank for words

[leaden anchor]

using llm's as a teacher is very efficient

its my favourite use for them

asking them for algorithms that could solve a problem i have

and then learning said algorithm from them

and implementing it myself

its something that would take literal days reasearching that i can happily complete in a day

and it serves the role of a mentor better than most real humans i know can

[velvet flint]

ask chatgpt to solve your english homework so your students dont have to figure out the answer

[merry idol]

I'm always too skeptical that it's misleading or straight-up inaccurate

[leaden anchor]

you can often verify that yourself

with your own sense

[leaden anchor]

its not my job to bother about people using it for stupid reasons

[merry idol]

that's the thing: I can easily verify it with stuff I know, and I know it's gotten better but I've tried testing it and it being wrong too often for my taste. I can't verify it like that if I'm learning new stuff

[velvet flint]

im just saying that you can use chatgpt to answer the questions so the students dont have to do it for you!

[leaden anchor]

not really.
like one of the points of learning it is understanding how it works, you can compare it with other approaches and see how it holds up.
And if you even provided you bullshit you just learned something new anw so does it really matter

But you don't even need to really learn the entire thing

you have various ways of testing the validity of a llm's claims

[merry idol]

i dunno if it works that well. Practical example: I needed to generate crc32 collisions reasonably quickly by appending data to write https://github.com/JarateKing/sourcecaptiondecompiler and out of curiosity I asked ChatGPT how to do it. The best answer it could give was "brute force it, though it might take a really long time" no matter how much I prodded it. This is just straight-up wrong, crc32 collisions can be generated extremely quickly (even faster than what's in that program) and I can point to multiple examples of implementations. But chatgpt just... couldn't. If I used chatgpt to learn it then I'd have learned something wrong and concluded the wrong thing

[velvet flint]

why are source captions compiled?

[merry idol]

speed

[velvet flint]

it's just text

[leaden anchor]

actually yeah these shits have a tendency to not answer questions that may be in some way related to cryptography and other stuff

[merry idol]

parsed text

[velvet flint]

crc checksums arent cryptography

[leaden anchor]

"in some way related to"

[merry idol]

it won't, like, refuse to answer or anything. It just won't give a good answer

[leaden anchor]

Yes that exactly

Last year I spent a decent amount of time going through CTF related stuff

And it was my worst expereinces using LLM's

settled for browsing writeup's instead

[merry idol]

my experience is that chatgpt will give you good answers if you can find multiple good online tutorials or multiple good stackoverflow answers that provide very similar information. It won't give you good answers if you stray into more niche or less documented questions. And like, I don't really see the point then -- online tutorials and stackoverflow probably have more, better information if chatgpt scraped it from there anyway

[leaden anchor]

also how can you even say this stupid ass statement. A good chunk of cryptography involves checksums

[velvet flint]

checksums arent secure

at all

[leaden anchor]

you are stupid.

your statement is somewhat true

but you are stupid

[rustic quest]

CRC is a hash function

[leaden anchor]

a very simple one honestly

[rustic quest]

yes

[leaden anchor]

learnt it as part of the course a couple of days ago

the math behind it

[rustic quest]

Its supposed to be simple and fast, not secure

[leaden anchor]

and yet some idiots use it for security

creating vulnerabilities you can exploit

hence why llm's stray away from telling you methods to create collisions

[rustic quest]

thats just stupid

[merry idol]

I personally put crc32 as borderline. Like it's a hash function which is "cryptography" but it's used primarily for all the other reasons (ie. performance) you might use hash functions

[leaden anchor]

well they aren't really intelligent are they

[merry idol]

in the same way that a polynomial hash is "cryptography" even though nobody's ever used it for cryptography

[velvet flint]

but ive heard it called a checksum what's up with that then?

[rustic quest]

because you can use a hash function as a checksum?

[leaden anchor]

Deadlock Megathread. People discussing

• LLM's
• Cryptography
• Stupidity

[merry idol]

does deadlock use source caption files?

[rustic quest]

does source 2 use them?

i thought most of the formats were changed

[merry idol]

can't improve perfection

[rustic quest]

I dont know anything about the source caption format so im going to assume that youre right and it is perfect

[rancid escarp]

thank you for saying exactly what i wanted to

it's cool for like getting a basic idea of something or pointing in you the right direction, just like a search engine but better

actually learning from it though is just nonsensical a lot of the time (especially in my usual use cases of code)

like on the off chance it even gives me something that even compiles, it's way worse than if i would've just read the docs myself and actually learned
and a lot of the time if i try to go more in depth with things, i end up going down a rabbit hole that leads to nowhere and now i've spent more time playing with that than actually doing what i want to

and for anything remotely niche, forget about it

[velvet flint]

they're 3 things that deadlock has

[tacit wagon]

fun fact, in the files there's 3 newspaper 3d models presumably left over from when the game was citadel, all talking about the earth's surrender to the combine and wallace breen

I thought they were unused, but they're actually still in the map!

let me grab a screenshot

they're on one of the shelves in the fish market, the mixed T1 and T2 jungle camp between amber blue & purple lanes

its possible that they're also used elsewhere on the map, but its worth noting that the fortune teller stands around the city use different, deadlock specific newspapers, something about a Roosevelt opening some national thing, and some amendment adopted

idk why these new york fortune teller robot things carry newspapers from cities that aren't new york, or even in the state of new york, but they do

I probably should check the texture itself, see what they say

not very helpful

the most i can get is that the amendment is race related?

there might be a letter cut off before that idk

and i doubt that some Roosevelt is opening the National Fig, so thats probably cut off too

also if you want to (try) to read it, here's the half life newspapers

[merry idol]

is that breen

[tacit wagon]

yeah

apparently these newspapers are actually re-used from HL:A and HL2

it looks like the HL:A versions are waaaaaay more high resolution though

although the deadlock version of the times is cleaner

[velvet flint]

why couldnt valve have released half life 4 instead of deadlick

[tacit wagon]

yet still harder to read cause the HL:A textures are like

big

[merry idol]

deadlock is hl4

see the conversation above: old newspapers confirm it happens after the events of halflife

[tacit wagon]

ignore the fact that the newspapers have urls listed on them and the deadlock takes place in the 1920s

[velvet flint]

it's an alternative dimension

[tacit wagon]

it is kind of interesting, despite being way higher res, the deadlock versions arguably have more detail in some cases, like look at that, thats wallace breen! in a city!

clearly an HL2 model!

[velvet flint]

those arent the same the one on the left has a mic

[tacit wagon]

oh good catch

it is in the same spot of the same paper though

I honestly wouldn't have even known these were (mostly) re-used if i didn't google the car in the ad in The Terminals, idk my HL car brands

[tiny tundra]

I can't believe Doctor Breen time traveled back to the 1940s to surrender Earth

[whole star]

dota 2 uses .dat

[tacit wagon]

i'm about 99% sure it doesn't have captions at all rn

probably because even stuff like voice lines and voice actors aren't locked in yet

so its really low on the priority list

every time they change the filters on one of the characters voices everyone riots

[velvet flint]

valve hates accessibility ✅ 🔥

[tacit wagon]

ok those HL newspapers are everywhere lmao

basically every newspaper you see (and there are a surprising number of them) is usually the Terminal one

[wicked dew]

do you think they have a custom AI with the voice of GLaDOS?

[thick raven]

*do you think they have

a custom AI with the

voice pf GLaDOS?*

- forgottenashess

[wicked dew]

Haiku bot always immortalizes my grammar errors

[tacit wagon]

no

[wicked dew]

partypooper

[rancid escarp]

honestly always find this stuff really cool

the old neon prime map was also fun to see ingame

i wonder what else is in the older depots...

[whole star]

no

there is a newer breen model they made for hla

this is just too good for the base hl2 model

also just this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtYhkhqNsE

valve made this

its funny how they use a lot of fanmade stuff for placeholder

im guessing this type of propaganda video didnt make the cut because it would just be too much work for something people would likely miss

[rancid escarp]

I wish this was a joke, I really do but I have to vent somewhere. I play Deadlock with two other people (sometimes three) but one of them consistently and always picks Mo & Krill. He never plays any other hero - no, he refuses to play another hero. We are always joking about it but it's seriously starting to piss me off. The stupidest thing is that whenever he manages to get a kill (he averages 4/6/7 like every match) he screams at the top of his lungs "MOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAND KRIIIIILL". Me and the other friends I play with genuinely do not know what to do anymore. He always farms lane but somehow manages to only have 12k souls at the end of a 35 minute game. After the laning phase he just disappears into jungle and we do not see him (I do not count the times he spins up from the ground not anywhere close to any enemies). I am seriously starting to consider playing another game or trying to convince him to play any other character but he won't listen. He has 20 hours playtime and he has never played any other hero. What can I do?

[merry idol]

instapick mo and krill from him

[tacit wagon]

there's no pick and ban yet, just picking characters you want to play and then queueing

there is no escape

only mo and krill

[merry idol]

yeah thats what im sayin. Pick characters your friend wants to play and then queue

[tacit wagon]

its still only a chance

[merry idol]

you only need to get lucky once
he needs to get lucky every time

[coral parrot]

I think this algorithm is in the wikipedia page about one of the related topics

woops, didn't mean to necro the topic, I hadn't noticed the message time

[merry idol]

i'll never forgive you

[elfin umbra]

MOOOOOOOOOOOO AND KRILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

nvm i'm blue

[tacit wagon]

i see bluey

[wicked dew]

did someone mentioned Half-Life???

do you guys know i love Half-Life?

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-galunga-vortigaunt-alien-dancing-gif-27242642

[merry idol]

https://tenor.com/view/bluey-bingo-floss-flossing-gif-27348865

[valid warren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-upside-down-cat-lying-on-floor-cat-lying-on-back-australian-cat-gif-21683076

me when i flip my model and dont go under the world... for whatever reasohn

[tacit wagon]

the node spaghetti has only gotten longer

blender node management was NOT made for this kind of shit lmao

like

here it might be slightly readable now

at this point it might be better to download something to just write my own shaders for blender

but i have 0 experience with shaders so like

that might be worse

[woven pond]

what on the earth are you trying to acheive with these nodes

[tacit wagon]

recreating source 2 shaders

aka, hell on earth

not half bad, colors are a little off, mostly because this image is without lighting

also I don't support texture borders yet

and like

20 other features

[woven pond]

That sounds like hell on earth

[tacit wagon]

it is

[woven pond]

I would just slap on a texture, throw some lights in and call it a day lol

[tacit wagon]

well part of the issue is that this shader is a 3-way blend

[woven pond]

3 way between what

[tacit wagon]

3 different textures

each with their own different parameters

including how it interacts with things like overlays

for example these eyes are actually tinted like the rest of the building, but their material has a param disabling them from getting tinted

[woven pond]

I wonder if you can replicate slurce 2 shaders with OSL

[tacit wagon]

probably, but like I said I have 0 experience with shaders themselves

so its sort of easier for me to piece together what I need via nodes

also part of the issue is that my brain always wants me to "do things right"

even if thats way more work, and stupid

[woven pond]

I hate dealing with nodes

In particular, following tutorials that don't explain stuff and you end up with spaghetti

A clean node tree is so hard to make

[tacit wagon]

yeah I'm not even following a tutorial

I kinda just gave up, disabled the node curving in my preferences, and started adding reroutes everywhere to get straight lines

its.... cleaner... than it was

[woven pond]

What I like to do with these types of node trees is to use multiple group inputs. I avoid having really long node lines

And I avoid having the lines criss cross too

[tacit wagon]

yeah I considered that but I just don't want to deal with groups

imo its so much of a pain to keep going back and forth between groups

[woven pond]

Pain...

You know I've been waiting for 4.3 to drop to use it again for something

But I said the same thing for 4.2

[brave token]

I was looking for something and saw this video so yes.. I'm replying to a month old message:

he's legit been a hater for a decade now. idk why there are so many people like this, who played the game twice more than 10 years ago and refuse to play it again because "le old game." Or maybe they think it's a waste of time, or they're just allergic to good games? Or maybe they're mad that the game is still among the most played on Steam? idk I guess the gameplay of TF2 requires you to put in a lot of hours before you start having real fun. I know people often stop playing, and I’d chalk that up to them thinking it's a waste of time or not being good enough at the game

[brave token]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/Wlh0mdLemlIAAAAC/jesse-breaking-bad.gif

anyway, I think pubstomping plays a big part in player retention. It's pretty bad in TF2

[whole star]

you are missing the point hes making

[leaden anchor]

Magic Carpet is too much fun

I hope they never nerf it and only buff it

That item is the most comical item I have seen in a game

[thick raven]

*That item is the

most comical item I

have seen in a game*

- lonely potat

[leaden anchor]

Paradox swapped me, wraith ulted me after and i pressed carpet and weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

The funniest shit I've ever seen

[digital carbon]

Nice argument senator

However

I haven't bought a single orange item in my life

[tiny tundra]

gun mcginnis is cool though

[tiny tundra]

just had a game with a 21-3 abrams

we won in 17 minutes

either that was some really bad matchmaking or they were just cheating idk

[wicked dew]

how's cheating in moba games?

[digital carbon]

deadlock has aimbots and wallhacks cheats already

[valid warren]

ermm.... old news??

[digital carbon]

yes? I was just answering the message before mine

[valid warren]

errm... ok men

[ionic temple]

https://x.com/IntelDeadlock/status/1844044839530467492?t=QMvgKfQTLMfyKnvmTXEqsg&s=19

Deadlock Intel (@IntelDeadlock) on X

‼️RUMOR: Valve is currently working on a small series of Deadlock cinematics with S2FM

Taking the project more seriously “a lot sooner than expected”

Twitter · Oct 9, 2024, 3:58 PM

[wicked dew]

i mean yes but, how do you cheat in games like Dota 2? invincibility, instant recharge?

i don't think aimbots and wall hacks are that relevant in Deadlock for what ive seen, ofc i haven't played a lot of the game yet

[whole star]

map hacking

scripting

the aiming equivalent of a moba is pointing ur cursor at ur target and pressing a button

so hacks can do that as soon as someone appears in ur vision

or just make pressing buttons in quick succcession automated for things like combos

or like the game predicts a projectile flying towards u and u automatically press a spell to evade it

etc

[whole star]

ranked

[velvet flint]

truly the worst game of all time

(valorant doesn't have ranked it's fake news)

[whole star]

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-10-2024-update.36958/

[tiny tundra]

what's the problem with ranked by the way

[ionic temple]

iirc promotes toxic behavior

one example is how ranking its technically the root issue of LoL

[tiny tundra]

yeah that's what I assumed

fair enough I guess

[ionic temple]

i do hope the devs actually do something unlike LoL case

where people can and wild falsely flag you to get matchmaking banned while the others can literally say slurs and get 2 days banned

[tacit wagon]

i was interested and excited for this

but it mysteriously disappeared from the patchnotes

[whole star]

doesnt happen i ndota

so why would it happen in deadlock

[tacit wagon]

at the very least right now if you have any behavior penalties against you, you can't queue for it at all

[whole star]

that too

thats even harsher than dota lol

[tacit wagon]

it might change later, but thats how it is rn

[ionic temple]

i think time would tell tbh

[leaden anchor]

wont change much, the ability is still pretty shite

the ability currently only works if you are farmed more than the enemy

[tacit wagon]

I think mostly it just would be interesting to get slightly more use out of an ult in a bad spot

but... its not in the patch anyway soooo

[leaden anchor]

seven ult is in a state where ulting just puts you in a disadvantage

even when i have 8 spirit items and leech i just end up killing myself

[tacit wagon]

yeah

I just like stopped using it

[leaden anchor]

pretty much the same

its only good with combos now

[tacit wagon]

even for farming its not as efficient as just ball and/or static charge

[leaden anchor]

or its a good way to play mind games with enemies

[tacit wagon]

yeah I feel like thats its best use right now is just to try and prevent enemies from pushing your team

even though the damage is pitiful

[leaden anchor]

They added input buffering to ability casting

god fucking finally

i hope this extends to item casts too

the number of times i die in fights and then realize that in the flurry of all the button mashing my infuser didnt bother to cast

and if infuser did cast i would have easily won the fight

also fixed troopers unable to be shot on zipine, the number of times i tried to cut waves and just struggled for no reason

• Fixed debuff reducer to cause teleporters to be faster. lmao

• Improved lash death slam lock on indicator, my one lash main friend will rejoice

• Urn carrier now revealed through map. Well fuck no more stalling the game by running around with the urn 😦

why would they do this, mind games are my favourite kind of games

but they made the urn more op

before it was a op bounty rune

[leaden anchor]

Why tf are there so many buffs to mcginnis turrets, they are already beyond cancer when stacked

And they further increased yamatos skill ceiling required for effectiveness

[leaden anchor]

basically they made them somewhat more stackable while reducing their average lifetime

stacking those turrets were always the problem, you turn a random corner and bam you got 10 turrets staring at your face

[leaden anchor]

They nerfed the ult sound of mcginnis

[digital carbon]

at least they fixed the ult sound playing permanently

I... think?

[wicked dew]

but, hacks like, no ability cooldown exist?

[whole star]

idk

[velvet flint]

no

the programmer would be fired if they fucked up that bad

[coral parrot]

woke up from a nao today and thought like: "you know what? Im gonna give deadlock another try rn"

and then I found out that the game is broken on linux and randomly decides not to connect to the match

[velvet flint]

slop game

[whole star]

#1 deadlock hater

[valid warren]

sorry bro advanced vac technologies

[velvet flint]

they're just copying what every successful anticheat is doing

[leaden anchor]

Deadlock ranked system seems really interesting least to say

Every Tuesday at 8PM GMT we will run an algorithm that calculates everyone's performance together at the same time based on the games you've played, how the opponents you played against ended up faring in subsequent games, etc. As such, medals will only be updated once per week, to allow for analysis of a wide set of match data together at once for a more accurate review of your skill (rather than a fixed numerical addition/subtraction on a per game basis).

In order to make sure there are enough data to cross reference with other players, you must play at least 7 games in order to be eligible to receive a rank for that week. If at any time you didn't have 7 games played in the previous week, your medal will be marked as undefined until you play enough and earn a new medal the following Tuesday."

Lets see how this ends up fairing

[velvet flint]

This algorithm is stupid for reasons I won't go into.

[leaden anchor]

Do you ever say anything positive or do you have endless hatred for everything?

Its as if you literally just joined this mega-thread due to your hate for the game

[velvet flint]

This message is stupid for reasons I won't go into.

I'm just fucking around I don't care what algorithm they use

or your message

it's all a big joke

sorrey

sorry pookie

[rancid escarp]

infamous mastercomfig griefer niterux

[tiny tundra]

pocket is stupid

[coral parrot]

its my favourite

[tiny tundra]

just won a game in 12 minutes

truly a valve matchmaking moment

[coral parrot]

does anybody here know? https://discord.com/channels/1231286446472691825/1295098539960959026

[wicked dew]

i love movement tech

[tacit wagon]

citadel_hero_testing_enable true I think enables the hero testing menu that is part of the sandbox? lets you disable stamina and cooldown stuff

alternatively those probably have their own cvars

which are probably also under the citadel_hero_testing_ umbrella

[tacit wagon]

teleport to certain coordinates i think is your standard source getpos setpos

and you can do host_timescale (also part of the hero testing menu) to speed up the game until jungle camps spawn, but thats not the most ideal solution

[coral parrot]

I made two players ragequit today :(

in the same game

[leaden anchor]

Magic carpet taught me something new

The buildings are one way to true deny yourself in this game

[tiny tundra]

gun mcginnis is cool

[coral parrot]

do towers count as objects?

[tiny tundra]

yeah

[valid warren]

they are objects

objectives is the proper term

[coral parrot]

ah! that makes much more sense

[whole star]

https://youtu.be/VkBzKVM_BeQ

[rancid escarp]

i need subtitles

@valid warren can you dub this for me???

[tiny tundra]

the other team just created the worst nightmare for gun mcginnis

[thick raven]

*the other team just

created the worst nightmare

for gun mcginnis*

- mederp

[tiny tundra]

everyone had like 50% bullet resist

I couldn't touch anyone

[valid warren]

chrome translate

[leaden anchor]

32k obj damage

peak

[coral parrot]

and they were wondering why we lost

[coral parrot]

I must've overshot my mmr

because games do be getting extremely difficult

[valid warren]

https://tenor.com/view/nom-eating-hippo-hippo-baby-gif-15695692171848166518

[digital carbon]

Damn we ball

Even after the ball nerf it's still a bit bonkers

[valid warren]

will come next update for heroes

[valid warren]

been a thing since neon prime (levels on healthbar)

[leaden anchor]

what ur deadlock rank

[lyric locust]

top 100 goontopia

[valid warren]

eternus vi vro

[leaden anchor]

pero palayer

[valid warren]

reported as 2000~ valve match rating on tracklock

or they reset it recently?

huh

i didnt get a rank last week

[leaden anchor]

interesting

[valid warren]

didnt play enough gamez

[valid warren]

https://tracklock.gg/ranks

[tacit wagon]

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2024-update.40951/

huh

[lyric locust]

theyre bringing tf2 character rendering hell yeah

well probably more accurately dota charracter rendering

oh ac tually

looks completely different

interesting

[tacit wagon]

interesting solution

[lyric locust]

the fortnite solution

[tacit wagon]

tf2 got literal worst update and deadlock instead gets epic update

[velvet flint]

if subtick is so good then why doesn't deadlock have it

[tacit wagon]

too busy making the game function first

[merry idol]

they're trying to hint where people should go

[tacit wagon]

fast grandma is back

ginnis buffs

[lyric locust]

more mini sentries

[tacit wagon]

yeah i'm like worried about this change

granted i haven't played since before they added rank

man

like

fed vindictas only going to get more fed

[ionic temple]

I Wonder how tf is people making maps for deadlock if there is not even a sdk

[tacit wagon]

hacked together SDK using dota 2 and CS2 tools

[ionic temple]

and a dyi fgd?

[tacit wagon]

I have an old version of it, never bothered to grab a newer one tho

yeah

[ionic temple]

people is blazting fast for that lol

[tacit wagon]

i mean they've had a couple months

[whole star]

me when a game is in an early development build (would be unreasonable to expect an sdk at this point)

[lyric locust]

whats the point of this message

[whole star]

i appear to have wrongly read that message, therefore i retract my statement

apologies for being rude

[digital carbon]

hell yeah

[tiny tundra]

but I wanna play gun mcginnis valve

[digital carbon]

You will span an average of 16 turrets per minute and you will love it

Btw, I gotta say the lighting update is pretty nice

The hero lighting is a nice touch, and the change to the sun position made the map a bit darker

[wicked dew]

it's a shame my pc can't run it

[wicked dew]

how do they make maps for things like Super Mario Oddisey if there isn't a SDK? i don't know much about this stuff

[ionic temple]

.

[rustic quest]

people reverse engineer the file formats the game engine uses and write their own tools

[tacit wagon]

starting with this update they're posting update announcements on steam now

[elfin umbra]

hit phantom :D

im veri good tank player

[valid warren]

• Added Commends. You can commend players you've enjoyed playing with during the game or in the post-game scoreboard (same places you would report). The number of commends you've received on each hero will be displayed in your profile.

[valid warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477368201647357952/1298384600535535616/speechmemified_this-can-t-be-real-i-am-not-that-bad-they-did-a-mistake-and-v0-7hq0w07a9dwd1.webp_1.gif

[valid warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477368201647357952/1298384600535535616/speechmemified_this-can-t-be-real-i-am-not-that-bad-they-did-a-mistake-and-v0-7hq0w07a9dwd1.webp_1.gif

respectfully

WHY DID THEY RECOLOR KALI TO GREEN

THIS IS SO BAD

MY SON

[leaden anchor]

• Fortitude: Now upgrades from Extra Health
• Fortitude: Health increased from 325 to 365
• Fortitude: Restore delay reduced from 11s to 10s
• Fortitude: Weapon Damage increased from 25% to 27%

Massive Buff

[digital carbon]

Can't wait to see where they end up with the art style and the models/textures

Just the lighting update changed it dramatically

[whole star]

viper is not kali

[valid warren]

his legacy will not go.

free kali

[noble shell]

I got to experience the wonderful crash on death patch for at least one game

Me and my buddy were playing and had no idea what was going on but it was so funny

I was getting more ahead than I should've, I was playing lash and every kill had like a extra 20-40 seconds on the respawn timer

[tacit wagon]

damn you beboooooop

[digital carbon]

they nerfed mcginnis turrets

feels... ok man?

At least Bebop is playable

[lilac flame]

fartbop

[valid warren]

AAAAAAAA!!!! NERFED!!! THEY REMOVED 10% OF THE RESIST!!! FOR SPIRIT!!! WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!

[valid warren]

does mirage not have a color assigned to his bar thingy

[valid warren]

™️

expecting phantom 3

or higher up oracle

[leaden anchor]

im expecting to drop an entire bracket

if i actually rank up valve smokin something

[valid warren]

i kinda ranked up by losing games

so

[valid warren]

kda abuse: apply divine barrier on teammate to have assists all game!

[leaden anchor]

bug was known for rather a long long while

its viability in skewing rank is not known

[valid warren]

still hadnt been fixed and popularised by the Media so..

[leaden anchor]

valve too busy rolling out cosmetic updates to fix actually gamebreaking bugs that are already reported on the forums

lots of broken spell interactions out there

magic carpet is bugged as hell

[valid warren]

clown hat

[leaden anchor]

Honestly they should buff the carpet

for a 6.2k item its very easily counterable

has just niche use cases at this point like viscous

[valid warren]

hol up

ball on carpet?

[leaden anchor]

was it patched or smth?

cause its the only viable usecase of the carpet

[valid warren]

first time i hear about it

so

[leaden anchor]

lul

[leaden anchor]

oh nvm they patched it

there is absolutely no reason to use magic carpet anymore

overpriced item with too many counters

[tacit wagon]

this continues to be true as they just buffed bomb again lol

[thick raven]

*this continues to

be true as they just buffed bomb

again lol*

- treacherousfiend

[tacit wagon]

the only buff in this patch

[lyric locust]

bebop

[tacit wagon]

I'm a fool a buffoon even

i launched the game for the first time in like

a month and a half? 2 months?

and didn't even go into the sandbox to remember how to play or my builds

I just jumped straight into ranked

surprisingly, it did not go that badly

it felt like a rather fair and balanced game

but I do regret not remembering how to play prior

we might've won if I remembered what to do faster

most of the gamers there that had ranks were around here though

so i feel pretty good about my performance

(i mean I felt pretty good during the game without knowing the ranks but still, that helped a bit too)

[tacit wagon]

im having fun :)

slork fathom is very functional

big fan

i still think slork is a better name

[coral parrot]

supposedly he is very OP, at least at high elo

[tacit wagon]

I mean all the hero labs characters are like

varying levels of finished

so i'm not surprised any of them would be op

viper seems very fun

but I feel like could be kind of ridiculous

running full like gun damage and not having to worry about ammo

just sliding around everywhere

you can just toss wrecker ball with the melee button, which I think might just be a free heavy melee

[valid warren]

NOOOOOOOOO

fiend fell off 💔

[tacit wagon]

I haven't played in 2 months lmao

[valid warren]

exactly what i said

[tacit wagon]

true

[valid warren]

get better soon.

[tacit wagon]

i will

[rancid escarp]

so glad i’m not the only one lmao

[tacit wagon]

lost 3/4 ranked games i've played this week

but feeling pretty good

only one game where i've felt like I was doing bad

also for some reason I keep getting seven

thats also... the only character i've been losing on

the one game i got kevin i won

[leaden anchor]

dw i had majority of losses in the first season and still placed Emissiary 1

[tacit wagon]

yeah the thing is like

despite the 3/4 losses i'm still playing with archon players

and i'm doing well so I assume that there's at least some player performance based MMR too

hell i think i got more archon players in the last 2 games than i did in the first 2

[valid warren]

do not care about winrate. care about personal achievements in said games

[tacit wagon]

im not

why does everyone thing i care that much about it lol

right after i mention it everytime i say that i'm proud

[valid warren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516504307902971904/1187012706683846676/image.gif

I am just commenting on things i see. I am a robot.

Powered by the CCP, glory to China! 🇨🇳
I am running Qwen-72B.

[wicked dew]

@tacit wagon have they changed something performance related in Deadlock?

[tacit wagon]

idk i haven't played much

I did notice that since they first added it the image quality with FSR2 is massively improved

so you can lower it further without as much of a noticeably drop in image quality

although in later team fights with lots of particles my fps still tanks

[wicked dew]

can you decrease particles like in tf2?

[tacit wagon]

i don't think so

[digital carbon]

Performance overall has improved over time but it's pretty minor with each update

Except the one where they changed the lighting, on my rig I went from 120 average to 140 at ultra-ish settings

[marble matrix]

6650 xt is reaching 100-110 fps during fights

at minimum settings, internal 720p>1440p fsr

[digital carbon]

1080p fsr native here

6700xt

[marble matrix]

and i use afmf2 to double my fps, very little artifacting and latency is great

[digital carbon]

It's bound to improve since I bet they have a bunch of debug/data collecting for every freaking little thing

Vram allocation goes crazy tho, the game easily takes over 9gigs

[marble matrix]

yeah max textures fills up my 8gb

[tacit wagon]

it really uses that much? maybe I should turn texture quality down...

granted I'm running lower resolution through FSR2 so it might not fill it that much

i'd have to see

opened a replay, i'm looking at around 6.2GB VRAM usage

LETS GOOOOO FISH_DEBUG STILL IN DEADLOCK

FISH_DEBUG SWEEP

I've noticed (and i've seen other people note this too) that infernus and haze, especially their ults seem to cause massivefps drops

it might be related to ricochet?

since both of them tend to get that

but yeah, naturally the game's performance is far from final

the game's assets (models, particle effects, even the map itself) are changing constantly

and optimization is not their top priority rn

its a bit higher than it was a couple months ago since so many people were having trouble, and since the test has gotten so much bigger

[wicked dew]

is enabling Vsync in this game okay? as opposed to Counter Strike

[tacit wagon]

no clue, I never use vsync

[wicked dew]

@tacit wagon im having 47 fps stable now

is playable

[valid warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292052683171041371/1293418050833612801/2024-10-08_20-36-04.mp4?ex=672d886d&is=672c36ed&hm=d366bd7a887be60329bee863b23e49dfd4e9f0b508cfdde02ade5bfe462e7d46&

[digital carbon]

Yeah in big team fights they can cause fps to absolute crawl

From 140+ to 10-20

but only if you are right next to them and it happens all at once

[thick raven]

*but only if you

are right next to them and it

happens all at once*

- diegodamohill

[digital carbon]

good bot

[leaden anchor]

• Added Quickbuy
  QoL feature yay!
• Added Cosmic Veils to the ground floor entrances to Mid that grant vision looking in but block vision looking out
• Mid Boss Rejuv Trooper Health increased by 30%

Major Rejuv buffs and gives more opputunities to steal

• Healbane: Healing reduction increased from -40% to -45%
  Them buffing healbane constantly is indirectly buffing the seven ult, turrets and various other AOE spirit abilities

• Metal Skin: No longer blocks melee damage
  Abrams mains rejoice

• Soul Rebirth: Removed from the game
  Absolutely didn't see this coming, but ig pocket aegis was broken

• Magic Carpet: Now grants +10% Ability Range
  The 5 magic carpet users out there, rejoice

• Slowing Hex: Now uses Enduring Spirit as a component
  This is a very interesting change, going to the the first Vitality to Spirit item conversion in the game

Also seems kinda a OP chance considering how good Enduring Spirit already is early game.

• Haze: Bullet Dance no longer hits 2 targets
• Haze: Bullet Dance now grants +30% Fire Rate
  Less value in teamfights, more value to piss people off

• Dynamo: Singularity now deals 1.5% Max HP in the base ability
  Finally you are slightly less useless when Ulting without follow up

[digital carbon]

"Soul Rebirth: Removed from the game" is crazy

I love it

No idea how that item lasted for so long

[leaden anchor]

• McGinnis: Mini Turrets DPS reduced from 60 to 40
• McGinnis: Mini Turrets health reduced from 20% max HP to 15%
  Seems about right

[digital carbon]

😦

[leaden anchor]

That isn't sad

Turrets are crippling already

They are just a straight up cancer from on hit effects like Reverb, Slow and Healbane

[leaden anchor]

like are any of the character models even upto release standards

ig maybe bebop and infernus are the only error free and decent looking character models in the game

[whole star]

no

[tacit wagon]

bebop is still neon prime iirc

infernus is still mostly solid colors

imo ivy is one of the most finished ones

[tacit wagon]

got dam

oh hey neat

isn't steam deck still blocked from matchmaking unless you use a workaround

yes... YES

no... NO

[valid warren]

sex with abrams'nt

[valid warren]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-viscous-violence-ivy-deadlock-ivy-gif-12798937095824953351

[valid warren]

HOT TAKE: per-character mmr IS NOT GOOD

[leaden anchor]

Went seven ULT build

Since teammates were behind and patron was stage 2

They tried to end the game 5 times

My ult stopped them every time

I taught 6 enemies what the item "Knockdown" does

[leaden anchor]

Yup seven is soo back this patch

[tiny tundra]

thank you MSI for not being able to make a stable BIOS and getting me temp banned from matchmaking

I guess it might be my RAM as well though

[digital carbon]

Abrams is kinda weird, played like absolute ass but still won

[merry idol]

One who plays like absolute ass and wins, did not play like ass -- ancient proverb

[leaden anchor]

you absolutely got carried and the enemy team underperformed

their mc ginnis was trying so fking hard to hold the game together with the second lowest networth

[wicked dew]

is Deadlock playable in a good comp level with controller?

[valid warren]

probably not for the majority of people

everything works if you put your mind to it

[rancid escarp]

we need to have a deadlock version of the solar light video

[whole star]

maybe if u have a controller with additional left/right buttons for ur pinky and ring finger

those exist and i didnt make them up right

[marble matrix]

they're called back paddles

[wicked dew]

what about the steam deck?

[whole star]

has two grip buttons

[ionic temple]

https://vxtwitter.com/gabefollower/status/1862625244390801829

[whole star]

wbk

also infernus

[tacit wagon]

we've known about some of the VAs for a while

one of the valve employees will confirm and deconfirm some guesses

infernus is phil morris

but it is nice for him to confirm it himself

I think its pretty unlikely for them to change his VA then

but other voices are probably still in the air

[whole star]

oh damn i was wrong

i think lashs va is very obvious but i dont remember their name

[merry idol]

im kinda surprised they dont list 'em in credits

[tacit wagon]

there isn't any credits yet

for people in deadlock server
#1279163694445625344 message

for people not in the server

this list gets updated pretty often

so this will probably be outdated soon

one of the valve devs said that 2 of the speculated ones are wrong (although that might be based on a different list)

frankly I think its pretty cool that people are able to just figure out who some of these VAs are even through the various filters

[marble matrix]

having JB Blanc but not JK or Ellen is such a poof

[leaden anchor]

Look at these poor guy complaining about singularity.

[valid warren]

zyn-gularity

[leaden anchor]

seriously deadlock spoils these guys so much they complain about minor inconviniences.

meanwhile enigma in dota be like the final boss

they gonna sheethe so bad if valve adds something like chrono to the game

[thick raven]

*they gonna sheethe so

bad if valve adds something like

chrono to the game*

- lonely potat

[valid warren]

sheethe

[leaden anchor]

deadlock players when spending 3k additional souls on an item actually makes it better

deadlock players asking how a 100% uptime item that can effectively double the effectiveness of somw heroes can be costlier than a 180s colldown item

[digital carbon]

I just started playing geist, don't even have 5 matches on her, and arcane dash is pretty bonkers, can confirm

[marble matrix]

using 1440p fsr 2 performance mode my gpu util% is almost identical to native res + fxaa

what's going on

this game is severly cpu limited

[digital carbon]

cpu struggling

[marble matrix]

that's what i said

[digital carbon]

my b for some reason discord didn't show me the following text

[marble matrix]

why not 1 million dollars

or 1 million beers

[tiny tundra]

alcoholism

[whole star]

lmfao why did i post this here

oh i copied the wrong image

theres a nice naughty list on the map and every hero is nice except lash whos on the naughty list

[leaden anchor]

the chrismas update is lovely map looks beaut

also dynamo voice lines are great

[valid warren]

bell curv

[digital carbon]

This entire match is just me trying for the skin, never actually played talon until today

kinda hilarious how safe you can play him and still be a menace

spent half the match around spawn

[rancid escarp]

talon a goated duo

[digital carbon]

So, weirdly enough, since I already got the talon skin, I unselected him

after a couple matches today, the game just decided "you will play talon again"

https://youtu.be/_I2zp98t_so

[valid warren]

game got skins already?

[whole star]

iirc its christmas skins u earn by completing something

[lyric locust]

the og skins...

[rancid escarp]

how do you get skins

first time on since oct

(hero labs) games start at 7pm,,

THEY FIXED THE DOF PERFORMANCE HIT???

no way

[marble matrix]

how do you even mess up a DoF effect

borked buffers?

[digital carbon]

I'm still missing Vindicta's and Yamato's

only got one game of vindicta tho, after 3 hours of getting Seven

[rancid escarp]

how long is this on for?

i gotta get grinding

[digital carbon]

not sure

at least till next year I suppose

[marble matrix]

more time-limited FOMO

i love suffering because of videogames i don't have the motivation to play

[leaden anchor]

then don't play

not that difficult

its like having a toxic relationship with a game

[marble matrix]

yea my love life is non existent

so i have toxic relationships with games

[digital carbon]

fucking vindicta