#Counter-Strike Megathread - Trade Up // Market Down

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supple summit
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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS: GO) expands upon the team-based action gameplay that it pioneered when it was launched 19 years ago. CS: GO features new maps, characters, weapons, and game modes, and delivers updated versions of the classic CS content (de_dust2, etc.).

elfin berry
versed pecan
lilac glen
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limited test build for localization

rustic sierra
versed pecan
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erm

rustic sierra
versed pecan
rustic sierra
versed pecan
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replace chickens on italy with boars

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or inferno idk

rustic sierra
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boar too big

versed pecan
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miniboar

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chicken sized

hot granite
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can we get this boar?

versed pecan
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they will be replacing the pyramids on ancient with giant boars

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enjoy

supple summit
supple summit
rustic sierra
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you know

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i think theyre building up

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to an oh my god it's happening gif

lilac glen
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100% csgo is old enough use that unironically

elfin berry
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inb4 CSGO twt also uses like 2014 era mlg Shrek memes

supple summit
lilac glen
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hopium

elfin berry
hot granite
hot granite
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banner updated

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new logo

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they got rid of the scar

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its m4a4 now

supple summit
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they made the person italics

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being made italic is extremely painful and imoral

lilac glen
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That logo sucks dick

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(I don’t like the italics)

lilac glen
hot granite
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the cs icon has always had that scar

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like even before csgo

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they just finally fixed it to have a gun thats actually in the game

lilac glen
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yeah ik
its just it was the scar (that type of scar not the scope one obvious l) because the scar was gonna be added at one point
then wasnt

pastel frigate
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I hope valve waits until I get back home from vacation to release it

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knowing valve it'll probably end up being in like, october, though

lilac glen
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nah they're teasing too much for it to be a multi month long wait

pastel frigate
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it will be released in 2025

pastel frigate
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summer 2025

supple summit
lilac glen
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🥹🥹🥹

hot granite
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ill talk about cs2 soon im at my moms bday

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fuck you valve why would u release when i cant analyze it

versed pecan
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have fun

hot granite
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stupid gabe

lilac glen
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New hud a lil weird tho

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Hope there’s an option to switch back

versed pecan
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mobile hud

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cs2 is going to be a mobile game ..

lilac glen
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The smoke meta gonna be insane..,

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Those look dope as hell

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New apw tracer looks cool

versed pecan
lilac glen
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Not that type of tracer.,,.,

versed pecan
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overwatch

lilac glen
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Bullet tracer from swap

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Awp

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I still hate this shitty font

pastel frigate
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the game will only use that font from now on

supple summit
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rare csgo mcoms

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no Limited Test for me, I guess :(

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you people should check by launching CSGO

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see if anyone got lucky

pastel frigate
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have they started sending out invites yet?

versed pecan
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i bet theyre not giving out the invites just yet

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no steam depots or so

elfin berry
supple summit
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poor philip

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WarOwl literally cancelled his vacation to wait on the update

lilac glen
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The game looks nice but very like washed out but saturated at the same time
I could prolly fix that by just changing my display contrast but yeah

supple summit
supple summit
lilac glen
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Outcast?

pastel frigate
supple summit
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I meant overcast

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sorry

lilac glen
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Oh yeah makes more sense

lilac glen
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Which is good for visibility but like

lilac glen
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Can’t wait to see how the new smokes will change gameplay

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Since they now take the shape of a volume rather than just be a set shape thing

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Does csgo use color correction

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Cuz I’m looking at the overpass comparisons and like overpass lost it’s green-ness

hot granite
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guuuys modify me with a beta key?? anyone????

lilac glen
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There’s no beta key..,.,

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You just login to cs and on the menu it’ll tell you if you’re invited..,.

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I wonder how bhopping will be affected by the subtick system

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And edgebugs

hot granite
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u dont get the joke

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only real artifactbros get it...

lilac glen
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I’ve been exposed as a fake artifact fan..,.,

lilac glen
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Does csgo normally have a vignette in game

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Or am I delusional

hot granite
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ok im caught up

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my takeaway:

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WOW THE SMOKES ARE SO FUCKING COOL

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italy is back :) i hope we get the opera singer

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i love how blood gushes out exactly out of the spot you were shot in

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you can see your legs

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and not only that

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even your own shadow

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so you can pay attention to your own shadow in order not to give away your position

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anyways this is huge

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not a csgo fan but this is huge

red robin
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the little things.

red robin
hot granite
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idk if they will let players use s1 maps

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maybe theyll implement a legacy s1 map category/tag

hot granite
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honestly i just

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hate

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how they called it cs2

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thats my least favorite part

red robin
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computer science 2

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I've just sat through an entire tyler stream which lasted 5 hours from the moment of upload.

versed pecan
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ak sound defo changed

rustic sierra
quasi sphinx
lilac glen
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the viewmodel and legs clash

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s1
s2
s2 image edited

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i hope they fine tune or theres a way for me to tune the look cuz like its way too bright and washed out for my liking

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at least on nuke
dust looks nice

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but it can look better,..,
(right is edited)

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maybe they just had mat_monitorgamma too high

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ionno

hot granite
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i think looks worse but its definitely realistic

lilac glen
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csgo momen

hot granite
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though i think its only realistic cuz of this

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thats how really sunny lightning works

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svg ok

lilac glen
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hopefully they refine the graphics and style more as time goes on which isnt entirely out of the question
cuz like 2011 csgo basically looks like a different game at this point

hot granite
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i mean

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you can clearly see that almost all of the graphics were overhauled

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all the weapon models were upgraded too

lilac glen
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i feel like most of what we're seeing graphically when it comes to weapon and player textures is mostly just direct porting with not much adjustment
like weapons look really matte and dont have much sheen or like material variance
just dont really pop for me

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like its all very plasticy ig

quasi sphinx
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it looks like those generic ue4 demos people make

lilac glen
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real

quasi sphinx
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because making everything shiny = better

lilac glen
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so real

quasi sphinx
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it feels like the new rendering fad

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like how bloom was

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making every surface look oiled up and shit

quasi sphinx
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kinda loses all the source engine charm

quasi sphinx
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if they make it look less like pubg then itd be perfect

lilac glen
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i just think they're missing those "artistic choices and real time shading techniques to enable the unique rendering style"

quasi sphinx
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i wouldnt say it looks worse just that it looks a lot more generic

mild locustBOT
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*i wouldnt say it

looks worse just that it looks a

lot more generic*

lilac glen
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i interpret more generic as worse but yeah

hot granite
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i mean tbh

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i think csgo cant be anything BUT generic

lilac glen
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kinda true with the whole military shooter thing but i feel it still had a lot of personality to differentiate itself, in both presentation and gameplay
now its kinda lost that with its new look in terms of its presentation

hot granite
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i think it never had that with csgo

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hot take

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csgo is the most boring iteration of cs by far and im right

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you will disagree and maybe hate me for saying that but im totally correct

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im ok with csgo being that way

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though

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its just that if you do anything else it won't be csgo anymore

mild locustBOT
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*its just that if you

do anything else it won't

be csgo anymore*

lilac glen
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i have never played cs 1.6 or css and i entirely disagree with you
from what ive seen and heard gameplay as essentially stayed the same
except for bhopping which technically was never an intended feature but is still salvageable in csgo sorta kinda
only thing i think has changed to really affect the fun is the switch from community servers to matchmaking

hot granite
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well then i dont need to argue anything anymore

hot granite
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i stopped reading at the first sentence

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no offense

lilac glen
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i aint readin allat 🔥 💯

hot granite
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the conversation simply cannot be productive any longer

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i cannot blame you for thinking this way for you dont know any better

lilac glen
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i am FUMING!!!!

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how DARE YOU!!1

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now excuse while i ride some more cs meat

hot granite
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play artifact

pastel frigate
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rayne is a dota spy sent to sabotage the popularity of counterstrike

quasi sphinx
elfin berry
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jesus fucking Christ that's a long screenshot

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although I would expect like 3/4 of all CSGO players to fall for crypto scams

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on brand

lilac glen
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one thing i didnt notice was that smokes are team colored now

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brown smokes are t
grey smokes ct

quasi sphinx
lilac glen
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clicking on your profile seems to show your steam mini banner which is cool

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i realized dust2 in here isnt using the normal dust2 cts but instead the SAS

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movement does feel a little weird like changing directions is a bit slow but it could be placebo

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im like averaging 50-60 on my dinky little laptop

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prolly less than s1 csgo but yeah

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molotovs dont effect my fps much

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smokes are also mostly fine from what i see performance wise

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this is all on low settings

red robin
mild locustBOT
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*The benefits of

csgo panorama being

a browser window*

lilac glen
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my only gripe with the smokes is the sound plays then the particles actually show up a half second after

hot granite
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when are they implementing htis for dota what the hell man

versed pecan
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tomorrow

hot granite
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they better 😠

versed pecan
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they better pay me 1 doler

hot granite
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also

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if anyones playing cs2 without actually having official access to it

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use an alt

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there appears to be people saying there's a vac risk and id rather not test it

versed pecan
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free vac and you know

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"Don't use a patcher, use an emulator instead"

lilac glen
pastel frigate
versed pecan
pastel frigate
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piracy is bad

versed pecan
lilac glen
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It’s a FREE GAME ‼️‼️‼️‼️

pastel frigate
hot granite
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it's not about the money

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it's about sending a message

lilac glen
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Cuz it requires steam to be open

hot granite
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yea

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okay

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ill still use an alt for good measure

versed pecan
pastel frigate
hot granite
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ok

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let them come

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i live in eastern europe

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piracy is very common here my professors even told me they can give us pirated software if we cant buy it

pastel frigate
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ok

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fine, you can do it if you live in eastern europe

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you have an excuse

hot granite
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i dont need an excuse

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like i said

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its about sending a message

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i mean i do have an excuse im poor as fuck but i think even if i wasnt poor id still pirate

pastel frigate
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rayne the fbi can still be sent

hot granite
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they wont come for me

pastel frigate
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they already are

hot granite
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anyways

red robin
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and I will forever be smug about actually buying things.

pastel frigate
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you are public enemy #1

hot granite
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idk why this guy keeps insisting that there might be a cs2 mobile port

versed pecan
versed pecan
hot granite
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it was implemented into source 2 specifically for mobile ports of games and it was in the game ever since underlords

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he insists cs2 might get a mobile port cuz of the console commands and strings but

pastel frigate
hot granite
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these commands are in dota too

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does this mean we're getting a mobile dota port?? no

versed pecan
red robin
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cross-platform support is almost a keepsake with many engines.

versed pecan
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what if mobile_whatevers relate to mobile gpus.. think of that

red robin
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like, you do it just because you can.

hot granite
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no its just commands for performance on mobile devices

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there are seperate fps limits for certain conditions on your phone

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for example mobile_fps_limit is just the fps limit on mobile

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but mobile_fps_increase_during_charging increases your mobile_fps_limit by the amount you set it as

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when youre charging the phone

versed pecan
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🤯

versed pecan
red robin
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look who's mad

lilac glen
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If you’re gonna bring an update you have to bring enough for the whole class

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I’d rather them not give tf2 the s2 treatment imo after the mehish look of cs2

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Tf2 artstyle is sacred..,

wicked rock
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ah great another discussion of "muh tf2 art style is ruinned!!!!"

red robin
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csgo has been progressively woobified and turned into a cartoon equivalent of tf2

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while tf2 is like a fever dream that got more absurd

wicked rock
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lmao people was right about folks going to complain with the most stupidest things ever

solar gate
red robin
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tf2 has been absurd a decade ago, is what I'm saying, since they added giant robots.
but now we got shitty beer aliens and halloween maps that are just incarnations of hell of every variety

wicked rock
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#1072696252162117752 trollfig

red robin
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mercenary park is somewhat grounded from the routine of constant magic voodoo shit, but yeah, it's an exception at this point

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while csgo had to be turned into anime

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older versions were so dark and gritty

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and now everything has nail polish look

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yass queen shit

pastel frigate
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I can't believe games art styles change over 20 years!

red robin
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cool boys with defusers vs dangerous boys with bombs

wicked rock
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idk, complaining about legs or art style in a game where competitive is basically the whole thing of the game sounds funny to me

pastel frigate
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teachers vs juveniles

wicked rock
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you wouldn't look at your legs in game

red robin
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the maps is the first thing that changed a lot

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and then the original player models

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the way leet crew and phoenix developed is definitely out there

wicked rock
red robin
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he didn't say no

red robin
wicked rock
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yeah but you wouldn't stop playing and look the details of a gun?

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🤨

red robin
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details in a csgo map tend to hinder gameplay much more than skins.

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most people tend to appreciate the skins a lot more for that matter.

timber geyser
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so i saw this video posted in another discord server
https://youtu.be/ctlSMvWVbVo

All Weapons + Grenades in Counter Strike 2. Source 2 Engine

CS:GO All Weapons with animations CS:GO weapons showcase 2023.

0:00 - USP-S
0:18 - DUAL BERETTAS
0:30 - P250
0:42 - GLOCK
0:57 - FIVE SEVEN
1:10 - DESERT EAGLE
1:31 - TEC-9
1:43 - CZ75
1:57 - P2000
2:09 - R8
2:23 - NOVA
2:35 - XM1014
2:47 - MAG-7
2:58 - SAWED OFF
3:10 - M249
3:28 - NE...

▶ Play video
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it definitely looks like a lot of the weapon assets aren't finished yet

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like a lot of them look smooth and like they haven't had a pass done to add wear and tear yet

red robin
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hold on, they overhauled the models?

timber geyser
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yeah

red robin
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perfect.

timber geyser
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compared to the images I saw last night, actual gameplay makes the weapons look better

wicked rock
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gamer moment

red robin
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I am curious how they managed the topology this time.

timber geyser
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like the XM looks pretty flat and boring rn

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but you can see that there's little to no wear or tear on this texture

mild locustBOT
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*but you can see that

there's little to no wear or

tear on this texture*

red robin
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yeah right a bit too clean

timber geyser
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and then you compare it to smth like the mp7

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which is way more detailed

red robin
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it looks almost like a toy

timber geyser
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has some wear on it

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the bison is a great example

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you can see nearly every edge has some wear on it

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which is why i'm thinking that a lot of the models are unfinished

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or at least the textures are

red robin
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I know that recently produced guns are supposed to be clean but that has something very uncanny about them

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even irl

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find an ar15 at walmart and tell me if it has scratches on it

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however, a glock is a glock regardless of how pristine or smashed the thing is

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back to cs2 though, that xm1014 looks like a valorant gun

wicked rock
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||i feel like this has to do when valve fired jeff cliff in 2019 from acussasion of him being a grommer and him pleding guilty on court while their lawyers told him not to||

timber geyser
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i kinda prefer the old one (even as someone who doesn't play cs) due to how iconic it is, but seeing that reasoning... yeesh

hot granite
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call me crazy but theyll start selling announcers

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they wont replace the old one

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theyll just give you options

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thats what im guessing

wicked rock
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idk man, they really are trying to get rid of the old one

mild locustBOT
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*idk man, they

really are trying to get

rid of the old one*

wicked rock
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and more to what happened in 2019 with jeff cliff

timber geyser
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or they could do both

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don't forget dota already has announcers that you can buy

pastel frigate
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csgo has announcers?

hot granite
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well kinda

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the danger zone announcer

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for example

pastel frigate
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all maps will have 20 doors

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if a door doesn't fit they will just make a big one and throw it somewhere random

lilac glen
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oh that reason nvm

celest field
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idk why people are judging a beta as a finished product

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stuff looks off because it's not done, they want the feedback and everyone is complaining about how gray everything is so it won't be on release

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this isn't like tf2 where they "release a beta" and then just don't change anything and say wow everyone look competitive update is here

versed pecan
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heavy upodate

celest field
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third banana

versed pecan
lilac glen
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so they change it

solar gate
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i will assume that a wip beta is exactly as it would in release, like how gta 6 looks like an unfinished buggy mess, how dare rockstar release such poor leaked footage

hot granite
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remember when the first sonic design came out for the sonic movie and everyone shat on it so hard they remade the entire model

solar gate
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for a more direct example: when valve reworked hl2 based on how much the leaked version was hated

rustic sierra
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that description of what happened to jess cliffe is misleading

solar gate
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what's the story? I have no idea who jess cliffe is

rustic sierra
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co creator of cs

lilac glen
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What’s the story

wicked rock
solar gate
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online encyclopedia like wikiped says he was mislead about her age and then entered an alford plea

wicked rock
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iirc in his trail their lawyers told him to not plead guilty

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but he commited social suicide

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and plead guilty

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that's the whole gist of it

solar gate
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yeah an alford plea is not really "pleading guilty"

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it is asserting your innocence while admitting the jury will probably not take your side so you'll act as though you were pleading guilty

wicked rock
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i can barely understand that legal munbo jumbo lol

hot granite
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that sounds pretty understandable

solar gate
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i never really understood alford pleas either, conceptually. But its pretty misleading to say "he plead guilty" because like, legally he did, but specifically while asserting he is not guilty

wicked rock
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"legally he did" how do you expect your standar USA citizen to know it

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🤷

lilac glen
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Can confirm bhopping still works

wicked rock
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wait it does?

lilac glen
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What is cl_interp_hermite

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While visually I’m not super impressed with how cs2 has looked so far the gameplay and gunplay feel just as nice as they used to be

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The forgot to add this emote tho

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0/10

wicked rock
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wtf

lilac glen
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Tap firing, at least on the AK feels super buffed tho idk if it’s always been like that but it seems super accurate

rustic sierra
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krispy why are you so antagonistic

wicked rock
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i was asking for a elaborations, why do that make me antagonistic???????????

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but anyways can we stop the matter thx

lilac glen
lilac glen
lilac glen
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My reaction to that statement (I win)

timber geyser
lilac glen
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Idk

wicked rock
wicked rock
# lilac glen

seems like to be a left over frm hl2 for the default player model

lilac glen
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Idk I didn’t take the screenshot
This guy seemed to be doing something so that’s prolly why

rustic sierra
quasi sphinx
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actually is there a reason to use anything but linear interp

quasi sphinx
hot granite
hot granite
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wtf u cant get prime for free anymore??

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no fucking way am i paying 15 euros just so i can earn xp and get a skill rank in comp

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why do they have this caveman system in place

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its kinda funny how across 3 of their games they dont have uniform systems for this

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tf2 - free xp gain, paid competitive access
csgo - paid xp gain, comp access is free but skill rank is paid
dota - free xp gain, comp access is free but unlocks after 100h of playtime in matches, requires a phone number

versed pecan
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and 25th rank

lilac glen
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I thin k

hot granite
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no

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you had two choices

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you either paid for prime or you earned xp to get a level high enough to get prime for free

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which was like level 10-15

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they apparently removed that

lilac glen
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Faili

versed pecan
hot granite
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ah

versed pecan
hot granite
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tbh

versed pecan
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i am apparently one of the malicious actors

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👍

hot granite
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i have an alt account with prime on it

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cuz i palyed til lvl 21 on it

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but

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honestly i wouldnt mind if they just made a 100h requirement

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sure its a lot of time to invest but it'd be free

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or just lvl 21 with phone number cuz

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they didnt ask for a phone number before

versed pecan
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free vac and you know

hot granite
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like if they acutally have this everywhere i might genuinely find bomb defusal fun

red robin
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this will make learning the maps so much better than relying on offline server with sv cheats on and spamming nades across skyboxes

versed pecan
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jumpthrows though

red robin
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if you can hold a jumpthrow button, you'll also be able to see where the nade lands.

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since you can throw nades in 2 different ways, there's no reason to have a hotkey for jumpthrow camera

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jump throw is a modifier that applies to both ways to throw nades

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so it makes more sense to work as a toggle

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rather than its own bind

wicked rock
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seems like steam profile backgrounds are integrated into the cs2 files lol

red robin
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because cs panorama is a browser window yes

wicked rock
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no like actual files

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for the background lol

red robin
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quirky

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might be cached files

wicked rock
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also oddly

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there's stattrack chickens lol

hot granite
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ok apparently its for practice only which sucks

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i wish this was in the base game

hot granite
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people that spent years learning the precise throw angles would bitch and moan about how people have to learn shit but this is a really stupid mechanic to have to like

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actually learn

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i really dont like the idea having to practice throwing shit all the time so you can try it in real matches and fail

wicked rock
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...i don't see the problem people has the right to learn and improve why its that a problem to you?

hot granite
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throwing smokes shouldnt be a thing you should learn imo, something so integral shouldnt be locked behind a game mechanic that'd be obnoxious to learn otherwise

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no what im saying is that i dont see a problem with making smokes more accessible

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as long as the smoke cam doesn't give away the position of the enemies, which it doesn't already, there's genuinely no problem with this

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it just makes getting into the game much easier

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the entire reason cs is such a really popular game is due to it's simplicity and lowering the skill floor makes it only that more accessible

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i dont see a reason being elitist and gatekeepey about this because people who didnt have this before had to spend hours throwing smokes in private games

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it's the same argument as the dota stun bar

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it's stupid

versed pecan
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what

hot granite
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what is it that you dont understand from what i said

red robin
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I think you've read a lot of salty replies to that video

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I genuinely think smokes being more accessible to people who don't have 8 hours a day to kill doing the most mind numbing thing or brainstorming with soloque strats, is a positive change

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Otherwise everyone else just relies on youtubers to show what's best

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Smoke throws is public knowledge in most cases

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Only that pros spend time organizing entire entry scenarios with them

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Most of the time is spent fighting hypothetical holes in the plan

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There is nigh infinite room for invention with grenades to be real, it's a dedicated role to know your utility for a good reason

versed pecan
hot granite
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oh

red robin
#

When I played cs seriously, I decided to put all of the effort into developing mechanical skills, gamesense and solo strategies.
I was happy with what I was able to achieve, I did well enough to not lose chill even in 1v5 scenarios.
Only, you can only do so much without actual friends, soloque is kinda boring for me by this point

hot granite
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basically when dota reborn came out

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they added a bar that showed above a stunned hero

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players complained for some reason because it made stacking stuns easier

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thats literally it

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there's people that still play pre-source 2 dota just because they hate stun bars

red robin
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Petty.

hot granite
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they hate that neutral spawn boxes can be shown now too

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its really dumb stuff

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thats why i mentioned the stun bars

red robin
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I think it's the gamer pride.

hot granite
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its definitely gamer pride

red robin
#

Brainrot.

hot granite
#

anyways i hope the smoke cam makes it into every gamemode

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maybe as a toggle in the settings

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hopefully its only in practice because they havent gotten around to making it work properly in multiplayer

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but i think itd be a great accessibility feature that doesn't necessarily lower the skill ceiling

red robin
#

I think it's good enough as a training mode feature, which already existed in... cheat software, that lets you see trajectories of nades as is.

hot granite
#

i dont think its a good training feature

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the thing is the smoke cam shows you where its going to land

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it doesnt appear after you throw it

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so its kinda counterproductive as a training tool

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because you will never learn anything if you keep looking through the smoke cam

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atleast me personally

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like i said, i think itd be a perfectly normal feature as long as it doesnt give away any information about the enemy

red robin
#

I think holding the nade down and have a predetermined spot already on your screen is all that needed to be done.

hot granite
#

that and

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like i said

red robin
#

Nades are deterministic, so.

hot granite
#

cs is one of the games that are really popular because of their simplicity

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and accessibility

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nowadays games that require you to learn things arent as popular as games that you can just get into and have fun with

red robin
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Does it really need to be added into competitive matches?

hot granite
#

why not

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like

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you can try all you want but you cant come up with a decent argument as to why not

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does it give an unfair advantage to anyone

red robin
#

I know, it kinda seems distracting though.

hot granite
#

thats why ideally it should be a toggle

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like idk

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press alt to toggle smoke cam

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same way how csgo has a keybind you can press to temporarily mute all teammate voice chat lol

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so you can hear the game audio better instead of listening to loud teammate reactions

red robin
#

I would hope it works the same for sourcetv.

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For better viewing experience.

hot granite
#

im sure it would work for spectators too

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some guy already patched non steam cs2 to be able to used in online play

red robin
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Lmfao

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I would assume they've been at it for the past day

lilac glen
red robin
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CS2 might relaunch my obsession over satisfying shooting.

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There hasn't been a game with an AK that felt better to shoot in my experience.

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I know it's virtual, it's merely audiovisual response from mouse clicking.
But synesthesia tells me otherwise.
I know that there's tactile feel to gameplay.

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Some days I think of the maps as actual places and I think of the cold air and the smell passing through.

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By this point, Dust smells like ashes.

#

Map of Ages.

versed pecan
#

map of stinks

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they’re using the same game coordinator & cus of that you can get into a csgo death match lobby 💀

versed pecan
versed pecan
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chickens

rustic sierra
#

erm..

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how do you know the names

versed pecan
rustic sierra
versed pecan
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hamborga

lilac glen
#

Names of what

rustic sierra
rare atlas
#

I wonder how big the performance impact of their so called "sub-tickrate" is and how big the improvement in hitreg for that is aswell

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if it has a higher cost on client and server

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or if it's just marketing to bait gamers

quasi sphinx
#

im pretty sure the whole reason they implemented it in the first place is because they dont want to run 128 tick servers

hot granite
#

ppl still want 128 tick btw

rare atlas
#

surely it doesn't come for free does it?

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I would like to compare it in a way like the polling rate of a mouse

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if you run the mouse at 1khz polling rate the utilisation of the micro-processor inside the mouse increases
(correct me if I'm wrong ofc)

quasi sphinx
#

it's not running the game at a higher tick rate

rare atlas
#

yes it doesn't run it higher

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but like... how should I describe it

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well I guess I have to see it for myself and look how it performs

mild locustBOT
#

*well I guess I have

to see it for myself and

look how it performs*

rare atlas
#

maybe I'm lucky enough to get invited Troll

versed pecan
rare atlas
#

free no virus fast download

hot granite
#

apparently my pc is missing something

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like

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i was reading ppl talk about the cracked cs2 and some guy had to reinstall their visual c++ or whatever to get it to work and i told myself

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maan i cant be fucking bothered to put that much work into just seeing an unfinished cs2 build

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and i deleted the cs2 build and just moved on

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i assume when you launch it on steam or whatever itll check for that kind of stuff itself and install it for you

versed pecan
#

you're adding it as an external game so why would it do that

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if ure even adding it

elfin berry
#

Funnie cat

quasi sphinx
hot granite
#

everyone says it works

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and i believe them but it just doesnt work for me lmao

mild locustBOT
#

*and i believe them

but it just doesnt work for

me lmao*

hot granite
#

some guy said he had to reinstall visual c++ shit and like

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im not doing all that

versed pecan
#

user issue

hot granite
#

either way it seems that users get picked at completely random

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there's people with 6 min play time getting into the limited test

mild locustBOT
#

*there's people with 6

min play time getting into

the limited test*

hot granite
#

i think csgo and dota share trust factor so if anything i think my trust factors pretty good

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they might deliberately try to invite new players for varied feedback

lilac glen
#

New smoke plays 🥹

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I like how this turns smokes from just a defensive option to an offensive one

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And makes nades useful

supple summit
rare atlas
#

lmfao

minor thistle
#

lol

minor thistle
#

looks like it lol

minor thistle
timber geyser
#

i'm considering playing casual csgo in an attempt to get access to cs2

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i think something is wrong with me

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because i do not like cs gameplay

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i'm gonna do it

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wish me luck

quasi sphinx
#

you shouldnt

timber geyser
#

how do you disable re-scoping in

minor thistle
#

I don't know of a command/setting, but quickly switching to a different weapon and back will do that

timber geyser
#

lmaoooo more peoplestay in a casual game after a match than in tf2

quasi sphinx
rustic sierra
timber geyser
#

i'm not idling though :(

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altho thats a shame

rustic sierra
timber geyser
#

yeah i know

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its just a bit confusing cause they specifically say idling

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and then go on to say that its just all playtime after it was started

pastel frigate
#

anti-fiend rules

minor thistle
#

lol

#

fiend perma-banned from CS2 trollfig

wicked rock
#

iirc from what i see

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some guys that have less than 3 hours have joined the limited test

timber geyser
#

I mean they specifically say "increasing your chances"

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doesn't mean that people can't be picked randomly

pastel frigate
#

higher playtime should reduce your chances

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it just makes sense

wicked rock
#

in theory lol

timber geyser
#

also the replies to that tweet are so funny

wicked rock
#

but i've seen people with less than 3 hours are getting picked lol

timber geyser
#

people malding that they don't have access despite their years of time and money wasted on the game

wicked rock
#

lmao

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and i literally play csgo just to do funny knife kills

timber geyser
#

I am simply not having fun playing this video game

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i was curious if my perception of the game would change

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and it did not

wicked rock
#

ehhh i mostly play on communities

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and on DM/War games

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CS/Hostage lobbies for me are full of people that kicks you if you have 0 score in the scoreboard

#

:I

timber geyser
#

I mean to me its just fundamentally the gameplay

#

does not click with me

minor thistle
#

I will make fiendhook 2 when they release a linux version of CS2 trollfig

hot granite
#

i just want cs2 for source 2

#

thats it

timber geyser
#

so cs2

minor thistle
hot granite
#

?

minor thistle
#

CS2 in unreal engine?

hot granite
#

i'm going to murder you

#

straight up

minor thistle
hot granite
#

i dont care about unreal engine

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never did

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dont care about godot either i dont know a single game made in godot

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give me source 2 thats all i want

timber geyser
#

Sonic Colors Remastered trollfig

solar gate
hot granite
mild locustBOT
#

*faceit players should

be thrown into a furnace

and reduced to ash*

hot granite
timber geyser
#

man i have no clue why valve would pick people who they can confirm actually play CS:GO for their closed beta test

#

I just can't figure it out

minor thistle
#

they link VRF directly from steamdb

wicked rock
#

its just dumb

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"guys please don't idle on csgo valve servers"

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"lets pick up this random that has 5 minutes in csgo for no reason"

solar gate
#

they should replace faceit with blazeit

timber geyser
#

no one who plays cs knows what random chance is

#

which is impressive, considering how much of that game is managing accuracy

hot granite
#

i think this is fine

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if you invite new players that hear about cs2 you might gain new players that stick around

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or just people that haven't played much

red robin
#

I want to see wireframe comparisons of new vs old weapons

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would love to see what kind of topology changes or details they did

versed pecan
red robin
#

Yet the weapons are the same

versed pecan
#

fake information

red robin
#

The AK is still 47 and not 74

wicked rock
#

so i can teorically import a mesh from blender to s2 has a map right?

timber geyser
#

I haven't used s2, so take my stuff with a grain of salt, but as a map file? i'm not sure, as a prop, absolutely

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I don't think props have any downside in s2 compared to regular geo

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cause they can block vis and stuff

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and because everything is mesh based anyway

supple summit
#

uhg. I wanted to test something in CSGO but steam HAD to go in maintenance right now

hot granite
#

some banned pro got an invite to cs2

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still cant play cuz vac

#

people are fucking SEETHING

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for some reason

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like this doesnt matter

#

people are acting like cs2 beta invites are in limited quantity and are scarce

#

its so weird why do ppl keep thinking theyre being left out

minor thistle
#

lmaooo

rustic sierra
lilac glen
#

I don’t know much about networking stuff so why are split packets not optimal

terse gate
# lilac glen I don’t know much about networking stuff so why are split packets not optimal
rustic sierra
#

unreal engine has a really good split packet system

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the worst part about source engine split packets is receiving them out of order makes them be dropped lol

#

so even on 0% loss you can lose packets

lilac glen
rare atlas
#

lmao

rustic sierra
lilac glen
#

Swawsome

quasi sphinx
#

just dont split them

wicked rock
#

seems like the new cs2 updated hide all developter console cvars

#
  • disabled ragdoll self collision
elfin berry
solar gate
#

for sleeping

lilac glen
#

Yeah

supple summit
#

I guess recording a bunch of float timestamps with some kind of precision makes them large

pastel frigate
tender heartBOT
#

@pastel frigate has leveled up! (24 ➜ 25)

lilac glen
minor thistle
elfin berry
steel mica
#

I love looking at footage from cs2

#

the graphics are so pretty and so refreshing

timber geyser
#

(tl;dr, yes)

red robin
#

this is the best patch note yet

#

fr fr

rare atlas
#

fr?

rustic sierra
celest field
#

jesus

rustic sierra
#

lol

#

@unkempt elbow luc

unkempt elbow
#

h

#

sorry

#

i didnt know it was posted here already

hot granite
#

oh theyre back

#

wb 👋

lilac glen
#

Hola

minor thistle
#

welcome back

steel mica
#

how does bhop work in subtick

lilac glen
#

So far feels the same as normal comp servers

#

From what I’ve heard it feels like 64 tick bhopping which is all I play on so feels normal

#

How it actually works idk

solar gate
#

no multiple actions on one key 😭 😥 😢

lilac glen
#

Prolly a band aid fix for this

solar gate
#

thats funny they should keep it in

hot granite
#

what is that on the bottom right

pastel frigate
#

tax evader

unkempt elbow
#
  • Multiple actions cannot be bound to one key.
    installs autohotkey
celest field
#

right, like they have to realize how easy it is to bypass

hot granite
lilac glen
#

Yeah it just makes it even harder and more difficult for the layman to do it
They used to just be able to install a config

lilac glen
#

Smh kinda rude

red robin
#

on the topic of csgo competitors, all my mind comes to is valorant, it begs to ask if there's other possible spin on the style of the game

#

a more casual spin perhaps.

#

similar mechanics but the general idea being set for people who just want to chill.

#

when people think csgo competitors they'll probably think of CoD or R6 Siege but they're not even close

#

and from my personal experience, the only cs clone that managed to stand out was neotokyo.
and that game is dead.

#

and when looking up competitors there's a fucking crypto nft shooter sitting at the top.

#

for as many people there are who like csgo there's just as many developers who avoid the style of the game like it will boil their parents

#

my closest bet now is warface and ironsight but those games are clones of cod.

#

I love csgo shooting mechanics and the complex simplicity of the movement, but every other shooter has to have ultimates or tactical nukes to be casual.

#

by all accounts, all csgo does it let you move in 4 directions.
But so does trackmania.

#

there's so much engine jank that it became its own field.

#

even crouch jumping can be considered esoteric mechanic because I attempted this in similarly old games (bl2) and it doesn't have it

hot granite
#

i think csgo is as casual as it gets

#

how casual the game is depends on the gamemode youre playing

#

gamemodes where you dont respawn tend to be more competitive than gamemodes like deathmatch or arms race

solar gate
red robin
#

I was just a kid.

#

Do you want to do this again?

pastel frigate
#

what

red robin
#

the fact that he released it on april fools though, the music choice makes it so sincere.

#

there's an opportunity for round 2 when cs2 comes out.

#

this feels like christmas at mcdonalds to me.

#

nostalgia is a bitch I can't

rare atlas
#

aw

timber geyser
#

honestly a better comparison than the one i posted before, altho only the pistols so far

#

also the first time i've ever actually experienced a video not showing up in my subscription feed on youtube

#

anyway i think this video really hits home the fact that the models are likely finished, but the textures probably aren't

#

this vid also made me realize just how drastically different the lighting is in s2

#

I think part of the reason why people think these weapons look cleaner is the way that light interacts with the weapons

#

like the thing i'm noticing in all these clips is that in cs2, the sky color seems to be taken into account for reflections

#

honestly, I don't really like the look of the sky color on it, but I do think with improved textures it would be a definite improvement

#

but it also makes it much harder to do a weapon comparison like this i think

#

since it can be hard to tell what is different due to model/texture differences, and what is due to lighting differences

#

even if the map itself might be identical

#

yeah i think this comparison right here proves that the weapons are unfinished

#

in cs:go, that little thingie on the left pops out when you push the bullets out during the reload, but in cs2 it doesn't

#

likely not rigged yet

#

or maybe just a mistake when attaching the animations to the model

#

because the animations are identical

quasi sphinx
timber geyser
#

i have no clue

steel mica
#

Wish they kept the more grainy aspect of CSGO

timber geyser
#

I mean i'm pretty sure the assets are unfinished

lilac glen
#

i dont think so

#

shadow daggers were fixed so revolver should too

quasi sphinx
#

based

red robin
pastel frigate
solar gate
#

wish they kept the flat fullbright textures with no skybox and bright monocolor player models of Puddintf2

lilac glen
#

This comparison perfectly illustrates what I think is lacking with cs2’s weapon mats
In csgo, the main body is purposely matte, while the barrel is metallic looking
All of the weapon is matte and flat in cs2
Even the color variation on the weapon in cs2 is a lot flatter, csgo had different shades of a black, cs2 is just the same black

#

This extends to every weapon looking matte, even stuff like the deagle and revolver which you’d think would be pretty shiny

red robin
lilac glen
#

No I’m talking about the the part with the ejection port on it
The rear end kinda

red robin
#

The stock is the ass of the gun

lilac glen
#

Ah

red robin
#

Well, where the ejection is, it often varies but I refer to it as the chamber.

#

The inside of the gun where the shell is placed before firing.

#

Which then travels through the barrel.

lilac glen
#

No not that either I was talking about the ejection as a reference for the area I was talking about
I mean this part

red robin
#

There's really nothing on this flat face of the gun there.
But the difference in the screenshot makes the groove in cs2 less prominent.

solar gate
#

they'll fix this in source 3

red robin
#

You can refer to it as the main body of the gun.

lilac glen
#

Yeah the main body

red robin
#

It just has an integrated stock which may have confused on how to refer to the whole thing.

#

The main difference between old and new is that the old one looks like plastic to me.
The new seems definitely more like steel, just that the color choice is... meh.

rustic sierra
#

so you mean the phong mask right

red robin
#

Yeah phong is... lower in cs2.
It's not as sharp

lilac glen
red robin
#

The barrel has really strong reflections in old one.

#

I think it's a good point that it all looks like it's made out of a single material

#

Like this shit looks like valorant

hot granite
#

this shit look like the battle pass

lilac glen
#

Can someone add the true… reaction to that

#

No nitro

red robin
#

I think they should clearly differentiate between metal and plastic there.
Also, why would the entire gun be made out of metal if it's going to be heavy as fuck?
Old nova makes practical sense

hot granite
#

comfig_heart will do just fine 👍

steel mica
red robin
#

A lot of cheap shotguns have their body parts either made out of wood or plastic, sporting shotguns come to mind.
While UMP45 is designed to be made out of plastic and is meant as a cheap mp5 alternative for the military.

#

I don't know if nova is a military grade gun.

#

It would make sense for it to be all metal.
If it were expensive.

mild locustBOT
#

*It would make sense for

it to be all metal. If

it were expensive.*

red robin
#

If csgo economy was indicative of actual weapon economy, the game would be so fucked lmfao.

#

Everyone would run a cheap yugo ak and have a beretta as secondary because everything else is too expensive

#

And there would be no need for any other gun because AK is the best already.

#

However, that's with no team restrictions
If CTs had to only choose from their menu, they wouldn't even have a starting pistol

solar gate
#

knife only

red robin
#

HK gun as a starter? Seriously? What were they thinking, those are a bitch to get.

#

And despite MP5 being the mainstay most popular standard military issue gun, that thing is expensive as fuuuuck and they are always out of stock.
And the army doesn't want anything else.

solar gate
#

i think they should add more knives to the store. like you can buy a sword instead of a knife, or a laser blade instead of a knife, or a hammer and then you can break down walls

red robin
#

I forget P2000 exists honestly

#

And oh yeah, it was the starting pistol back before USP was even in the game.

#

I think it would actually be fine.

#

I don't know remember its history or cost though.

#

Honestly any of the new gun models are fine, it's just that they're not visually appealing.

#

I was judging them through the lens of realism.

lilac glen
#

How

rustic sierra
#

it's just the glossiness

#

like they just have PBR

#

not phong

#

so they lost all the artistic control they had in phong

#

with all the masks

red robin
#

so, that explains the washed out look.

#

literally everything is the same contrast.

timber geyser
#

I don't think the textures are the same

#

at least not for all of the weapons

#

like actual detail is missing on some of the new models compared to the old ones

rustic sierra
#

youre really underestimating what roughness can do to a texture

#

those are 100% the same black textures on both

#

just the phong mask/phong exponent wasnt ported over correctly to pbr

timber geyser
#

ok sorry let me clarify a bit

lilac glen
rustic sierra
timber geyser
#

I don't believe these textures, at least for some of the weapons, are the same as the ones in cs:go, they have different details in a lot of places, and i don't think they're finished

#

regardless of phong stuff

rustic sierra
#

these have the same detail

#

in terms of albedo

timber geyser
#

if they are the same albedo textures, then they used phong stuff for a lot of details and/or the UVs are different (benetti logo on the side, white mark on the bottom of the barrel)

rustic sierra
#

yeah whatever decals are different

#

but the details are definitely all roughness details

#

let me demonstrate how the same albedo can look completely different

timber geyser
#

I should probably just check how its done in cs:go, just to see how much is part of the albedo

lilac glen
#

How what’s done in csgo

timber geyser
#

good website

#

the weapons

rustic sierra
#

these are the same albedo each time, just varying a constant of metallic and roughness

#

you can see how the color changes

timber geyser
#

ye

rustic sierra
#

turning more matte, becoming more gray

#

this is what you can see happening in the shotgun in cs2

#

this is caused by incorrect PBR values

#

now, let's talk about detail and variation

timber geyser
#

as an aside before we get into that, this shotgun in specific has only 2 textures, the albedo and the phong exponent

#

all the detail is in the albedo

rustic sierra
#

yes exactly

#

PBR doesn't allow for that

#

you cannot put metallic or any other lighting details in your texture

solar gate
rustic sierra
#

or else it will flatten out like you see

#

plus, the phong exponent is definitely doing a lot of work too

timber geyser
#

ugh alpha channel is used for stuff

red robin
#

when I was dealing with making skins I noticed that some text and logos were overlayed on top of the skin, as a mask, and one technique people employed is to add the text to the skin and invert its polarity to cancel it out.

lilac glen
# rustic sierra these are the same albedo each time, just varying a constant of metallic and rou...

Yeah I don’t disagree pbr is part of what’s fucking with the look of the weapons but those balls are just one flat color
Source 1 didn’t have anything that would change the color like seen on the pump, phong doesn’t do that
If it was the same texture on s2 we’d at least still see some variance in color between the main body and pump if the same pbr values are ending applied to the whole model

timber geyser
#

let me see if i can strip it out

rustic sierra
#

Source 1 didn’t have anything that would change the color like seen on the pump, phong doesn’t do that
yes it does

lilac glen
#

Like what?

#

Oh phong does?

#

I’ve messed with phong a lot i don’t feel it would change the color of the pump is csgo to be that drastically darker than the main body

rustic sierra
lilac glen
#

Or to make the main body that bright

rustic sierra
#

now here is the same albedo texture

#

but with varied roughness

red robin
#

pretty sure the same technique when making skins with parts being covered by number (123etc all being assigned to different UV areas) is being employed for the phong mask.

timber geyser
#

ok i think i see what you're saying coms

lilac glen
timber geyser
#

you're saying that details that they baked into the albedo for cs:go got stripped out to put into other PBR channels, but that hasn't happened yet or is messed up

rustic sierra
timber geyser
#

makes sense, this logo has some shadowing on it and generally sticks out

#

so I assume they want to put that just in the normal map

red robin
#

for clarity, I think of the phong mask as a separate texture with those "paint by number" groups being split by alpha or brightness.
and then actual settings of the phong are written in code.

timber geyser
#

side note i couldn't figure out how to strip out the alpha channel correctly so you get vtfedit screenshot

#

this would generally explain why so many of the weapons are missing details

#

a lot of people have mentioned the missing green dots next to the sights for some weapons

#

which i assume they are going to put on the emission channel

mild locustBOT
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*which i assume they

are going to put on the

emission channel*

timber geyser
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but that just hasn't happened yet

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altho i'm still not 100% convinced that even the albedo textures are the same/finished

rustic sierra
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shotgun with no roughness/metallic

timber geyser
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since some details which I don't think could be done without changes to the albedo are missing on some weapons

red robin
rustic sierra
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with metallic/roughness

red robin
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looking at it and it looks like it's ill in the last image, lol.

lilac glen
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I was wrong..,,..,

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@pbr you suck

rustic sierra
timber geyser
rustic sierra
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lazy import

lilac glen
timber geyser
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I mean I do think its pretty clear these aren't the final weapons

rustic sierra
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i mean

timber geyser
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they could've just imported the albedo from cs:go and called it a day

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but they aren't that

rustic sierra
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they did advertise

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that the weapons look better

lilac glen
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Prolly because they know most people will be like “woah reflections omg!!! :O”

timber geyser
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they say high-resolution models, not textures trollfig

rustic sierra
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yeah

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"lighting and materials"

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like im pretty sure theyre banking on just PBR

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rather than like

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actually tuning the art direction

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and you can kinda see that in dust 2

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and the other maps

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everything just is brighter

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and more reflective

timber geyser
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I just like

lilac glen
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Nuke s2 especially is kinda bad!1!11