#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year

valve said they were gonna work on it

If the second is truly just vanilla settings you can try those. But I'm fairly certain they're not

I hope they make the fire more orange like what the visual fix pack did.

I think certain device id settings changes how the flamethrower fire looks no?

when?

I dont remember that

jill said it shortly after JI i believe

then probably wont be happening anymore I suppose

this seems like unfair advantage with modding the game

therefore seems like a way of cheating

need that mod in the game so bad...

what's like device id?

I don't like current vanilla fire vfx, it looks out of place and too much like out of hl2

Though significantly altering the flame would have implications about what is inside the gas canister.

what is inside the gas canister?

If I tell you I will have to kill you

GYAS

in 5 minutes in 10 minutes GYAS

hi hello yakkin, funny to be jumpscared by my own clip here lmao

to add to this, we are down a scout because our roamer is not a scout player and our pocket soldier is restricted from scout in our division due to his hl scout experience

it was interesting to watch the denver lan finals on product where NA ran bomo on sniper a lot, since it meant they were also down a scout player. imo it's kind of why he couldnt perma snipe the map despite him hitting the most nutty shots lan finals has ever seen, since papi just kept being able to bomb him with minimal pushback from bomo's one scout player

one thing we have tried on product is having one of our soldiers try switching to shotgun and sitting on pride to help deny bombers, since our sollies end up playing much more passive anyway when I am full time sniping

it's been fun working out how to play around me sniping, especially season 48 where we were threatened by two potential demoknight teams in our division. we had to workshop how to play koth completely from the ground up

playing vs demoknight was a fun challenge too, we had to balance running classes that hard countered the dknight vs limiting our viability vs the rest of their team. full time pyro was just too range limited on 5cp, but we were getting farmed by running standard team compositions because the safe positions for our players/core combo completely shifted since we had no idea where the dknight could fly in from lol

eventually we settled (for 5cp at least) on our pocket scout playing full time buffed heavy to deny bombers and protect me perma sniping behind him, since the shields resist blast damage so much but not bullet damage. not having easy to kill low hp scouts meant that the dknight couldnt farm katana buffs either, so long as I stayed close to the heavy

like a g6 woulda won, if the had you perma sniper on product smh

there is no way i am hitting the shots botmode was against some of the best soldiers in the game haha, he was blessed for that particular match

humble as always

brother he's invite 😭

default gyro feels very choppy, it's like im losing frames

gyro to mouse feels way better

must be the unusual hat

try trading it to me

i was also able to get transparent fire on mostly vanilla settings with a weird setup on mac. it must be some driver bug that i don’t understand

OP’s second computer has some intel integrated graphics card and that might be the cause on their end

mmm so tf2 actually has aim assist, just disabled

you can enable aim assist if you install fiendhook

no need

this seems easy to fix

Interesting the console port didn’t have aim assist then

also hl2 has an enhanced aim assist version, but it hasn't been included in the sdk

pyro... sightlines...

ermm booooring wheres then phlog 10 kill

phlog is boring

fuck phlog!!!!!!!

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ouguhhh how i wanna play,,,

I love when they just walk at you and hit their mouse on the keyboard and completely miss

He's using rage faces in 2025 unironically

Coms, tfarena, 6v6, almost no weapon bans, a/d

You've won

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Has anyone else noticed it seems like players are standing inside the floor in freezecams with higher frequency

than in the past

like 1 in 10 freezecams the playermodel's feet or something are inside the floor for me, all servers

maybe not quite 1 in 10 but it's a lot

Could be like me where your game is just cursed af.

It reminds me of one time when i opened tf2 and i couldn't move, and could only shoot but very fast

I was even able to join casual servers but still

The next day, it was like nothing happened

a little unfortunate that a league branded around arena mode is just kinda completely abandoning that to run a 6s league but yeah glad they're doing a weird whitelist and map pool, always good to see more of that

that being said steel is a very bad choice

yeah lol

it works in highlander but there's just not enough going on in 6s for it

they should've done gravel pit or something more along those lines if they wanted to do a/d

Gravel mid

Just run pl

You know what, Im gonna make my own pl upward pro, with only 4 points

have you played 6s payload

wait it was literally you I discussed this with last time wasn't it lmfao

anyway yeah I stand on what I said before, it could theoretically work but there's no maps that work with the scale yet

the problem with payload in 6s is who wants to babysit the slow-moving payload when every class is fairly mobile and will push up to take territory anyway

whats interesting about payload

imo, better to have lane creeps which spawn every 30 seconds and push along a track to the enemy base, meeting with the opposing sides creeps

hazard crew gamemode ?

PL is an improvement over the old escort mode.

Eh. Honestly in modern 6s people are pretty accustomed to one player basically taking their hands off the keyboard when holding certain points.
Such as process defense roamer holding IT, metalworks pocket soldier holding house (defense/offense), bagel pocket soldier holding lefty, etc.

IMO PL was one of the more fun formats from NR6s, I think it could work in 6s.
I think the issue is that 6s might have to rethink some whitelist decisions for payload. Big emphasis on might, in NR6s we had wrangler and rescue range which made last offense super difficult.

We ended up having a pain train + banner soldier be cart bitch. I think on most 6s maps that’d be a pretty good idea with how good scout is now.
There’s a decent bit of room for defenders to go for flank plays to delay the cart too. It’s probably more boring for the people not on cart since if they go too fast there’s a high likelihood of the enemy team just wrapping for cart.
But that also adds to the interest of playing cart bitch. The more confident you are dealing with 1v1s or 1v2s, the more your team can worry about pushing forward.

I would rather play gravel pit than pl tbh

bring it back

Based pit

Steel, and other maps with "multiple win conditions", are always fun and there should be more of them in comp, at least in hl

this is getting me thinking, part of what makes this work is that dealing with creeps comes down to using weapons and engaging in combat, the same core loop that happens in the rest of the game. So maybe we could apply that to other things, like turn control points into "towers" with health that you need to attack to take over, instead of just standing on them for a set amount of time

might be good to split things up into multiple lanes with their own towers just to force teams to divide their attention too

Gpit sucked in HL

i didnt mind it in 6s but it could've used a pro version i think

People complain about nothing changing. Gpit in HL was give up A, defend B, and then C

B point being so much more easy to defend than A was annoying, made it so you never really held A seriously. if both points were viable to defend you would see more variety in how teams played it in 6s

but C point gameplay was peak

i think it needed just a bunch of tweaking that it could've used to make things flow better, A was the big thing in my mind too

That is basically most PL and A/D maps though

Understandably as well though, given the innate spawn distance BLU has over RED

Steel lets offense pick which point to attack and defense has to catch up or guess.

And at least there's usually a token of resistance at A. Gpit could delete A and change nothing.

I disagree, only other examples I can think of are steel and swiftwater, but steel's cap system means that you still have to worry about A-E pushes so you have to have some attention at least in white room ready for a rotation

swiftwater's first point being automatically given up is just a result of it being a bad map with a 2nd that it unreal hard to push

idk why NA still run it

Badwater and Upward get some resistance at A, too.

bwater has a hard first to break out of, upward's is well designed. teams can hard hold on first one round and then get insta pushed back to hill the next

but vigil is imo the best payload map from a comp hl perspective at least, largely because sniper sightlines are nerfed by the whole map turning basically 90 degrees multiple times

and the last isnt as horrendous to push as upward

I've played Barnblitz in HL. The Pro version at least.

I played every pro version back in the days when it was a staple map in etf2l

it was awful

all of them

I delighted in new flank or whatever they ended up calling it.

first I liked, but the indoor areas around 2nd are not fun, and the last is famously dog awful

the only way you could fix bblitz last would be to copy paste the last from an entirely different map onto it lmao

I remember back in they day when UGC would swap between Steel and Gpit every season.

Upward and badwater you can definitely hold first hard, but vigil and barnblitz you will (and should) give it up sooner than later, given how much better 2nd is defended. Swiftwater is a joke yeah, but still applies. As for other A/D maps so far only really steel and gravelpit have been played and maybe that other steel-like map as well (caldera?) all of which will barely defend a if at all

So out of 7 (or 8) pl and ad maps only two are really held at first reliably

vigil it is absolutely possible to hard hold first, it's nothing like gpit A

even barnblitz i would not say is an insta forget like swiftwater first or gpit A

Oh yeah nothing like gpit, but still there's still a huge incentive to fall back to 2nd sooner than later against evenly matched teams

this is how every good pl map should play out

Gpit A was ignored entirely by defense. Maybe 1 team per season would have a cheeky Soldier play to delay it by like 2 seconds.

swiftwater is the worst payload map, except for all the others -- Winston Churchill

so true, if i had my way the only pl map in etf2l hl would be vigil

replace upward with gpit

#BringBackBorneo

based

I knew I was forgetting a map

I'd rather never play Gpit again.

gpit hl i have less exp with tbf

I had more fun in HL 5CP than Gpit.

trying to take C vs a wrangler does not sound fun

bring back gully hl

best hl 5cp map ever

You know the Pyro cheese play for Gully last?

idk i exclusively sniped on gully hl lol

or spied

You run the Pyro and Med under it and uber while Pyro just cockblocks with airblast and a Scout or whoever caps.

oh right lmao yeah

That just sounds like a last push

i was expecting some shenanigans like badlands air vent

My team pulled that against a team 5 times in a row, even half fucking it up.

Gully last is particularly good for the Pyro just blocking defenders while you cap.

And, like, you just gotta put someone under the point or in secret to stop it.

https://youtu.be/PL-LxnpW_8A

I had the greatest plan on Process once. Take part of the team through IT while baiting the other team to uber through main into second. We hold second and the part of the team going IT pop out and deny them the fallback, squeezing them between Heavy, Pyro, Demo, and the rest of the team. Unfortunately, my mic was muted the entire time.

We may have been on Kritz at the time.

I was more annoyed at my team for not telling me my mic was muted. They brought me on so I could scream at them when they did dumb things, which was a nearly constant thing with them. They should have known something was up when I went silent.

Like, their Med got me and the Heavy killed because he went for an Amputator kill instead of running when we told him to.

https://youtu.be/yX6Lvt0iOqc

sounds about right for a spy main

it was this or pyro

why do you hate spy mains

when did i say that 😭

"dirty spy mains taking all our estrogen I HATE THEM"

omg, what if they do

hidden propaganda

the actually people I hate are sniper mains, signed a scunt

that'd be pyro mains again

what's a scunt?

but they deserve it cause it makes them better

a scout that makes you mad at how they play

or smthn like that

douchy mfs usually

and I play with bleed properties so :3

wait that? how can people sign a scout

im tired, sorry

what is team fortress 2 reborn

this mf has NEVER signed at the end of a letter

also

I'm not a scunt

I'm annoying sure but I love friendlies

this ig

but it was taken off steam lel

i was just asking because the steamdb update was related to this game

just curious

steamdb had an update

this #dev-log📻 message

titanfall 2 update soon™️

how tf do you even see what the update did like they dont even include change logs

because that's how steam works

no that's steamdb

where do you think steamdb gets info from

im gonna hit you

physical violence

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Shiver me timbers

There was a recent prem/high game where first was hard held on vigil

But that only really happens when there's a massive skill gap between the teams

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/after-almost-18-years-team-fortress-2-just-had-its-toughest-tournament-ever-and-there-could-be-more-to-come/

Jun 4, 2025, 7:43 AM

https://fxtwitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/1930168398446489942

truly better words have never been written from a games journalist than "balls leader"

a lot of tf2 updates or something

titanfall 2 is getting a lot of updates?

Not yet just wait bro

A lot of changenumber changes, we might see another PR merge compilation update?

Probably

does changing your settings make it recompile shaders? i was on like mostly low and turned em up to high and am getting lag spikes but because they started slowing down and only ramped up again on a new map i think it's caused by it (re)compiling vulkan shaders

FART OIL

isnt that just for the summer update?