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#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year
burnt dragon
wild grove
someone actually got fooled wtf?!
wild grove
no worries man
crisp cedar
pinging in a 12v12 game is beyond insane
i think if valve really wanted to theyd implement it but there's probs a reason they never did
they added a ping system to portal 2, dota had it since launch, csgo got it as an update
soft lynx
I do not need the visual equivalent of people spamming "need a dispenser here"
next nymph
I do not need the visual equivalent of people spamming "need a dispenser here"
give it a cooldown and honestly i think it'd be great
like pubs can be great if players actually coordinate for once, but they rarely do and I think part of the reason is that most people dont want to be the first to put themselves out there on vc and few want to join in on vc when they do. Essentially, the barrier is too high for most people to bother. Pings would be a much lower barrier
just from a game design perspective, in terms of accessibility it's a no brainer
soft lynx
That's true, the barrier of entry for communicating properly would be much, much lower. And since we already have outlines for player characters, introducing pings to mark specific enemies wouldn't be too far fetched either (though I think in a game like TF2 that might be a bit too strong)
burnt dragon
pinging in a 12v12 game is beyond insane
cooldown version exists in cs2 and people in casual rarely use it
just pointing locations and capture points would be enough
and spy being able to ping enemies too with a tool replacing his sapper
cursive peak
Is it a case of not wanting to put themselves out there on VC or general social anxiety that seems to exist online?
left sand
enemy over here!
where?
there!
radiant merlin
enemy at -5200, +135, +12 !!!
next nymph
"he's soooooooo hurt"
cursive peak
I've heard that call before.
eternal haven
9800x3d runs that pretty well
no mastercomfig no nothing and it's still 500 fps when looking at a bunch of players
summer willow
no 100 players test
eternal haven
Yeah the orange is so useless
but I guess only people who actively play tf2 would know that
high current
"he's soooooooo hurt"
“Medic is ROLLED”
Translated: “Medic took 9 damage”
wintry marlin
summer willow
just now i noticed i've been laughing while tauting
wild grove
Free laugh taunt on april 1st
uncut spear
cobalt spruce
horse
velvet raft
hol
mystic anchor
https://gamebanana.com/mods/585379
burnt dragon
Is it a case of not wanting to put themselves out there on VC or general social ...
team work is not cool when 5/6 teammates are russians
they can talk their language
why would they use anything else
tacit flare
It's very much an EU thing rather than NA. I used to play TF2Center a lot with a lot of servers force requiring Mumble. I stopped playing EU servers because you'd all join the Mumble server then everyone but me and one other would mute themselves and never speak the entire match.
radiant merlin
next update engineers bots will finally work in ctf maps
glass pollen
It's really cool seeing actual improvements being merged
radiant merlin
radiant merlin
i just realized that this spy is using beta revolver animations
summer willow
matchmaking sucks so much holy shit
burnt dragon
It's very much an EU thing rather than NA. I used to play TF2Center a lot with a...
honestly yeah
I play A LOT in NA servers
just because I love people communicating
and how silly people can be
instead of them screaming racial slurs in their native languages nonstop
glass musk
EU matchmaking is literally never fun
cobalt spruce
everytime i play tf2 classic on eu servers its so much more boring than na
and one of my friends insist on only eu servers cuz of ping
small sirenBOT
oblique tangle
it has racist balkans
cobalt spruce
what source game doesnt
oblique tangle
ricochet
cobalt spruce
well thats because ricochet doesnt have players period
oblique tangle
it still fit your parameter
velvet raft
and one of my friends insist on only eu servers cuz of ping
i heard cs eu is harder than na
cobalt spruce
i dont play cs anymore and i didnt enjoy my time lol
small sirenBOT
cobalt spruce
lost many friends with that game
velvet raft
i dont play cs anymore and i didnt enjoy my time lol
cs is awesome 
sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it
you don't have to force yourself to do it
cobalt spruce
life is awesome when you realize you can play single player games
i only really play multiplayer games when i play with friends
even then its usually pve like helldivers or l4d2
actually i play guilty gear alot i forgot lol
small sirenBOT
burnt dragon
it has racist balkans
cs has racist balkans and turks
overwhelmed by russians
eu server(never the actual eu, only balkans and russia is allowed)
I have an app that blocks some valve servers just for this
so I can play on western eu servers
wintry marlin
Even poland is not safe.
crisp cedar
dota eu matchmaking is peak
russia matchmaking is way better
tough locust
EU matchmaking is literally never fun
sometimes I get queued into stockholm servers at night and people are speaking like 3 different languages in chat and they're always boring
also so many ppl in europe are mega oldheads, NA has enough new blood to make matches fun compared to all the german 07 veterans
oblique tangle
im tyna
eternal haven
no
wild grove
Idk whats causing this but my laptop cant create listen servers without perma-freezing a few seconds after joining.
I can join other servers fine.
wild grove
sure
Idk wtf happened to the shortstop there, didnt happen last time this occured.
This also happens in tf2 classic for me as well.
wild grove
I notice that a visual bug happens before the game crashes, something with the lights happen.
eternal haven
I would do the mastercomfig "clean up" process and update graphics drivers and reset graphics driver settings
just to easily rule out any low hanging fruit
wild grove
thats thr funny thing, I don't have mastercomfig installed.
eternal haven
never seen anything like that before where the screen freezes but the game is still apparently running fine
well I just mean the clean up process from the mastercomfig docs
but at least try without any custom launch options or configs or anything
wild grove
My only launch options are novid and no steam input stuff.
eternal haven
It could be a hardware issue honestly, the glitches + crashing don't seem good
wild grove
Thats the odd thing too, I can join regular servers just fine.
Its just listen servers when either the hardware freaks or the game freaks.
eternal haven
Do you have custom viewmodel animation mods?
eternal haven
Yeah try default graphics driver settings
Like go in your nvidia/amd control panel and reset to defaults
Also try with and without dxvk
If it's a software problem the best thing to do is find some configuration where it's exhibited and some where it isn't
then you can easily narrow it down
wild grove
I noticed a model straight up broke before the game froze.
Like what happened with the shortstop.
eternal haven
Are you sure it only happens in listen servers?
Maybe play some more regular games and see if you ever get a graphical glitch
wild grove
Only in listen servers, I will def try joining one
Let me join a nearly full server and see what happens.
OH.
The game froze, before, some model broke.
and started making seizure inducing visual artifacts.
And in task manager I noticed the GPU is at 0-2%
When in-game since the game is still running.
Audio is working.
floral sandal
is there actually any use case or niche scenario where the red tape record is preferable?
wild grove
Only game that does this btw, other games on this computer doesn't have issues.
jagged pawn
he explains in the video
(jokes aside it is very technically useful for taking longer to do anything, which makes it good at annoying gunslinger users)
floral sandal
(jokes aside it is very technically useful for taking longer to do anything, whi...
so the tape recorder has higher health?
jagged pawn
no no it just takes longer to destroy things
but most gunslinger engis don't think to manually destroy them because that's not a common thing to have to do
floral sandal
I don't understand. Are you saying tha twit hthe tape recording gunslinger engies won't destroy their sentries and replace them?
wild grove
Sorry. This is seriously gimping me from making promos for workshop submissions I worked on, and I want it fixed yknow.
summer willow
is there actually any use case or niche scenario where the red tape record is pr...
was supposed to be for this message
felt bad now
radiant merlin
Woshee your game is cursed af cuz in my 9 years of playing this game i've never seen smth similar before
wild grove
I think its intel driver issues cause I didnt have issues when it was 32bit.
wild grove
This is gonna be weird as fuck but it seems removing all the sound.caches from the game fixed the issue.
that or disabling fullscreen optimisations + uninstalling + reinstalling the driver thats built for my laptop instead of for some reason a driver that wasn't.
I just find it weird that worked but maybe a corrupted sound.cache can explain the models breaking before the freeze occured, maybe its a memory leak?
dense star
about 2~ days ago this weird glitch started happening where the taunt menu became WAAY off-center
any idea on how to fix it?
ill also include my custom folder (if that has anything to do with it?)
cobalt spruce
im guessing its smth to do with absolutely hd item icons
try removing that and see if its fixed
dense star
im guessing its smth to do with absolutely hd item icons
yeah that was the issue
thanks
high current
I was watching a rumpus video and saw peaches
Oh fuck me I think that was 2 seasons ago when I played my match reckoner on pocket scout with a 103 fever.
I haven’t seen rumpus in a while though
radiant merlin
@next nymph this actionset param related to action sets in steam input right?
next nymph
i dont remember tbh
fickle dragon
I was just testing things one by one and I think I nailed it down to mastercomfig's mod_support=off option
wispy meteor
I would like to ask if it is possible to check all the command changes in the upcoming new config because github is clumsy for me to use and check the changes
frigid panther
it seems like the tf2 wiki has been compromise?
eternal haven
Why would you say that?
frigid panther
front page of the wiki had gore
tacit flare
(Changed protection level for "Main Page": Enable cascading protection ([Edit=Allow only administrators] (indefinite) [Move=Allow only administrators] (indefinite)) [cascading])
Lol
radiant merlin
some dude is so mad at the tf2wiki he have decided to vandalize it for years lol
what a loser
radiant merlin
he probably hijacked an inactive account with rights
radiant merlin
nvm the page was editable by anyone before
summer willow
eternal haven
what the hell
wintry marlin
It is very good
wild grove
I had fun with this game today, I was in a discord call with randoms helping this player play TF2 for the first time in a private server.
tacit flare
some dude is so mad at the tf2wiki he have decided to vandalize it for years lol
I would say that level of pettiness surprises me, but the depths of patheticness is almost bottomless with the TF2 community unfortunately.
high current
So just textbook wiki vandalism
I read this and thought of it like the people who used to draw random stuff in science textbooks that would get handed down through the years at school. Literal textbook vandalism.
wintry marlin
I feel like posting about the fact that I'm trying to cash out now and I'm more than halfway there already.
Yep, I'm still being fried by debts and I literally do not have even a single penny right now, none, nada. zilch.
all my accounts read 0.00
midnight pewter
comfig.app lets you download the develop branch but does it let you download the staging branch?
left sand
the dev build is the staging branch
midnight pewter
oooh
wintry marlin
I feel like posting about the fact that I'm trying to cash out now and I'm more ...
I pray that I won't actually need the money
THE SWEATER SOLD
summer steeple
insert megamind image here
rare creek
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2635440/Team_Fortress_2_Legacy/ evil tf2 classic
valve will allow anything but classic offensive on steam
rare creek
Ah the "mod ribbon" on their header image is fake and photoshopped on
lmaoooooo
@mastercom can you port tf2 to 1 mega hurts android phone processor please
radiant merlin
tf2 running on mediatek
radiant merlin
rare creek
they look different to me
paper sluice
Valve model on the left
TF2C custom model right
Tf2 legacy (not associated with tf2c) uses right
radiant merlin
i think it is in the files
rare creek
They should add a defuse mode to TF2
the next tf2 update should add de dust 2
and de vertigo
vscript
paper sluice
rare creek
the original dust is so fuckinf ugly and weird
next nymph
if dust2 is so good where's dust3
rare creek
they made a dust 3
next nymph
sounds like a lie and im not going to check, sorry
rare creek
next nymph
thats the pcg sequel to de_dust
like how lion king 1½ was released after lion king 2 and is a sequel to the original lion king but it is not lion king 3
rare creek
it has 3 letters
next nymph
de_dust_pcg is 9 letters and 2 other characters
rare creek
so it's the 9th dust
next nymph
i will accept that
left sand
Ah the "mod ribbon" on their header image is fake and photoshopped on
that's what you're supposed to do
rare creek
erm
wild grove
No offense but I saw dev responses in the discussions and they kinda sound like children.
left sand
yeah i dont think its a serious mod
wouldnt be surprised if it got delisted at some point
next nymph
so get it now while you can
tough locust
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2635440/Team_Fortress_2_Legacy/ evil tf2 clas...
LMAO
TF2 try not to have drama challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
if it's based on a stolen build why isn't it just out??
they wasted a $100 publishing fee when this will get taken down within the next week
paper sluice
I have a sneaking suspicion as to who did it,,, but they are those who shall nor be named
tacit flare
It's just... so sad. Like.. why?
next nymph
I have a sneaking suspicion as to who did it,,, but they are those who shall nor...
how could micwoj do this
potent wolf
@heady juniper do you have a response to this?
heady juniper
I havent even logged into my steam account for months
old phone on which i have steam authenticator has broken power button, so good luck
but I miss these old lgs with back buttons, great phones\
this was greatest thing since sliced bread
@paper sluice why did you hack my broken phone and impersonate me on steamy workshops?
paper sluice
No comment
potent wolf
banned
velvet raft
tf2 running on mediatek
video footage on the Gameboy Advance:
paper sluice
Yes please save me ace attorney
potent wolf
attourney
eternal haven
attorney
potent wolf
attourney
eternal haven
Wtf
velvet raft
me arguing with my autocorrect
eternal haven
Wait how do you go backwards in the console autocomplete if you're a steam overlay pleb
both are shift+tab
limpid panther
summer steeple
I'm back on my bullshit with this global vgui conds stuff and with every line I write I feel like this is the worst code ever and without a doubt a terrible way to do this
but if this works and is fast, I will be so happy
currently I'm working on a new system to cache res KVs so that it caches a base KV tree (i.e. no conditions applied) and then for each condition it stores only the modified keys so that they can be merged in easily, rather than forcing files with conditions to be re-read everytime the file gets asked to load
in theory it might make the first load of a file slower, its not at a point for me to test yet, but should allow further loads to be faster, which is important when uh, every file has potentially tens of conditions to read through
caching more files might alleviate some stutters during gameplay? I'm not sure how often some panels that use conditions are loaded, in tf2 its mostly gamemode huds that use them and they aren't loaded constantly afaik
economy notifications and the store page also use conditions
there's also tf_asyncpanel, which appears to only be used for leaderboards? (i.e. duel leaderboards, duck journal leaderboards)
mystic anchor
velvet raft
I'm back on my bullshit with this global vgui conds stuff and with every line I ...
fiend trying to not complain about vgui for 5 seconds:
/jk
potent wolf
vgui is evil and cursed
crisp cedar
this was greatest thing since sliced bread
ohhh fuck this phone was dope
i remember having this like
8 years ago
velvet raft
8 years ago
crisp cedar
i was a child then
summer steeple
fiend trying to not complain about vgui for 5 seconds:
listen vgui is the spawn of satan and it deserves every slander said against it
its kind of impressive how they managed to make a system that not only is super limited but also is slow at the things that it actually does do
wild grove
Isn't vgui the place where devs curse the most at? damn they just dealt with this instead of a ui overhaul?
summer steeple
vgui2 was the overhaul
its supposed to give the artist more control 
vgui1 is like HL1 goldsrc stuff
wild grove
damnnnn
summer steeple
on an unrelated note, I just fixed net_graph just showing raw interp
because i got mad
and yes, 30.0 is correct for 2 ticks
interp gets fed into a macro to convert the ms value to ticks, and that uses .015 as its tick interval, not .015151515 repeating (aka 1/66)
hopefully this will prevent more spy mains from thinking that an interp value that isn't locked to a tick exists
kind falcon
i got NaN lerp
help
summer steeple
also before someone gets mad at me, I feel like I will need to explain a bit
this does NOT touch your actual interp
net_graph is the only place in the code that uses interp that is not rounded to the nearest tick, which probably has lead to so much misunderstanding of how interp works in the tf2 community
every other place in the code where the game uses cl_interp (which by the way is DEPRECATED in favor of cl_interp_ratio) already rounds to the nearest tick, this is a consistency fix more than anything
rare creek
u should just remove the macro and cl_intep_ratoi
summer steeple
well cl_intep_ratoi doesn't exist so i can't remove it sorry
eternal haven
i got NaN lerp
help
hacker
kind falcon
im not hacker im <@&851153813577924668>
eternal haven
on an unrelated note, I just fixed net_graph just showing raw interp
The vgui font scaling update made the net graph so ugly
it used to be sharp and nice
now it gets blurred whether you have antialias on or off
tacit flare
So, when is the particle system going to be completely rewritten to use my GPU proving an extra 10,000 fps?
kind falcon
glueless
velvet raft
im not hacker im <@&851153813577924668>
tough locust
old phone on which i have steam authenticator has broken power button, so good l...
u can transfer ur authenticator as long as u are still using the same phone number
used to have an LG G2 I think it's the older version of that, absolute goated phone
mystic anchor
hoooly shit i just hita clip
burnt dragon
arent colours too... saturated even for tf2?
wet dream of reshade community I guess
mystic anchor
arent colours too... saturated even for tf2?
The colours is from vegas, ACES turns itself on every time i start it up
the game does NOT look like that
burnt dragon
they used to say that las vegas were all about bright colourful and shiny looks and I didnt believe them
summer willow
The colours is from vegas, ACES turns itself on every time i start it up
what is aces?
nothing against people who modify the colors of their games but i despise this
its so ugly 😭
mystic anchor
what is aces?
aces is a plugin in VEGAS pro (the video editing software i use)
that changes the colours of the video
every time i open up vegas i have to manually go and turn it off, despite telling it to remain turned off indefinetly
summer willow
oh
mystic anchor
i prefer not to modify the colours of my game either
summer willow
you use vegas just to cut videos?
mystic anchor
yes
summer willow
just use ffmpeg 🙏
crisp cedar
when people dont want to use command lines for everything
crisp cedar
tru but i guess its what theyre used to
summer willow
i just use a gui app that only cuts thing and ts probably based of ffmpeg
half life video omg, but its literally just that
eternal haven
lossless cut is nice
easy to use gui for cutting at keyframes and not needing to re-encode the video
I think it's like an electron app or something but whatever it works nice
mystic anchor
but vega its kinda overkill just to cut a video
i use it both to edit fragmontages and to cut clips for discord
i do have ffmpeg but i cba to rewrite the script so it outputs mp4 instead of webm
summer willow
cba?
summer willow
lossless cut is nice
i personally find it kinda cluttered but its a good option
small sirenBOT
mystic anchor
cba = can't be asked
eternal haven
heady juniper
ohhh fuck this phone was dope
u real too mr rains
heady juniper
u can transfer ur authenticator as long as u are still using the same phone numb...
Thats nice. I thought you can only do this with auth or that code that they say to write down while setting up
heady juniper
used to have an LG G2 I think it's the older version of that, absolute goated ph...
u reall too, pilsner
heady juniper
cba = **c**an't **b**e **a**sked
cant be arsed
mystic anchor
😭
tough locust
yes
the windows 10 photo editor has a built in trim feature that I use but I think they nuked it for microsoft clipchamp
mystic anchor
the windows 10 photo editor has a built in trim feature that I use but I think t...
that would reduce the fps to 30
And we can't have that!
summer willow
summer willow
the blue soldier is not a ragdoll b tw
eternal haven
Somethingh is bad with ur game
kind falcon
he lost his legs in a factory accident 🙏
summer willow
can we fix the demoman shield just being placed at 0, 0 of the map?
velvet raft
hoooly shit i just hita clip
well played!
summer willow
can we fix the demoman shield just being placed at 0, 0 of the map?
whats so funny
tough locust
this is what the soldier looks like in the tank when using the panzer pants
he looks like the pic of that anime girl that ate without YouTube 🥀
small sirenBOT
tough locust
sybau
wild grove
this is what the soldier looks like in the tank when using the panzer pants
Yeah its a bug where taunt props dont load for some reason.
so you end up with a spy lounging on a ch-air
summer willow
valve could get 2 people to look at source sdk prs and update the game every week with fixes and qol features
tf2 would skyrocket
wild grove
:clueless:
summer steeple
I was really scared to open my email today after I made that net_graph PR since it related to interp
but luckily the only reply was from jane
mystic anchor
well played!
languid haven
anyone know any tutorials for how to get crit_power to loop or the audio cut off time? there was one years ago and it helped me make a custom sound better cause it had a start up and a loop. it's been years since then and i don't remember almost any information on and google gives no results as if it was scrubbed from the internet.
rare creek
anyone know any tutorials for how to get crit_power to loop or the audio cut off...
crit_power? you mean the wav file?
languid haven
yeah, audacity does seem to have "markers" anymore and it seems the last tutorial is 9 years old.
rare creek
it just loops normally there's no start up or a-b loop
languid haven
no no it did in 2021 or at least looped back to point a with no real point b other than the end of it i think.
rare creek
it doesn't
rare creek
cue points.
there are no cue points
languid haven
GoldSrc and Source detect looped sounds ONLY through cue points embedded in the file. This is a WAV-only feature, so MP3s cannot be looped.
rare creek
there are no cue points
languid haven
stop acting like tighten for 5 mins, god damn if even an official valve website says there is then there's no need to repeat a lie. i'm just trying to find a way to loop a wav file so my tf2 game has cooler sounds which no one else takes advantage of.
languid haven
there are no cue points
but to humor you, i have not edited my old crit_power wav file recently. meaning if it still does have cue points then it shouldn't loop the beginning of the song when using crits.
rare creek
OHH you're trying to find a way to loop it I thought you were saying that there was already loops in the wav file
man why dont you say that from the beginning
languid haven
OHH you're trying to find a way to loop it I thought you were saying that there ...
yeah yeah i'm trying to find a way to loop it cause apparently tf2 supports it
languid haven
man why dont you say that from the beginning
i'm a little slow. XD
rare creek
yeah using audacity will definitely work
languid haven
yeah but i think they removed markers, i just don't know if labels are the same thing or if they are cue points. it's kinda confusing.
i might have to get an old version
rare creek
Labels should work
crisp cedar
anyone know any tutorials for how to get crit_power to loop or the audio cut off...
sound scripts maybe
languid haven
sound scripts maybe
wait that's a thing?
languid haven
Labels should work
alright i'll test it
crisp cedar
ok idk how to help you with this tho
the only times i used scripts was to make more than one sound play from a single event
rare creek
okay nevermind I guess audacity actually SUCKS and you can't export labels as cue markers id use a hex editor tbh
languid haven
i'll just export a finished edit of whatever i'm doing and i'll just find some other way to add markers with an older version. idk what %%%%%%% removed them.
rare creek
no
summer willow
there's been a lot of racist players and a lot of cheaters
and not new account cheaters, fucking blatant aimbot from players with thousand hours and unusuals on the game
the most cases i've seen is heavy cheating + a friend medpockect
small sirenBOT
summer willow
why people play like this
and their team will always close their eyes for these type of things
rare creek
lol thinking valve would do something against racism
tacit flare
there's been a lot of racist players and a lot of cheaters
Consider casual to be the wild west. If you want some rules, play community servers.
summer willow
the racism part i dont expect much
but at minimun i want these cheaters to never be able to play again and loose their inventory
eternal haven
Are you sure theyre cheating maybe theyre just good
Theres more cracked players now than there used to be
summer willow
i know me just saying doesnt mean much but yeah im pretty sure a heavy fucking locking in enemies around them is cheating
i don't play serious or care to kill, die, whatever
literally just play to pass time doing whatever i want to do in the moment
but i can notice when there's cheat behavior
i can try to record if i see something like thast again
left sand
reporting does something
rare creek
just another day of mastercoms spreading misinformation and trolling,,,
summer willow
why valve even allows hard r?
rare creek
most platforms do for some reason
wintry marlin
Valve recently started paying attention to reports after years of them being sent into nowhere.
You can use chat filtering to avoid seeing slurs and swears.
Valve doesn't outright ban people for saying things because they're not your mom.
So essentially, they will only get involved if it is a problem to their publicity or is a public nuisance.
Racist in-circles get to play the game that way as long as they keep it to themselves.
radiant merlin
Valve doesn't outright ban people for saying things because they're not your mom...
that's bs and they know it
wintry marlin
If someone says a slur in a forest and nobody hears it, was it said at all
I'm just saying, speech policing ain't on their radar unless IGN writes about it
tacit flare
Put it this way, this is a company who would rather mute all free to plays to appease the games journalists despite it doing literally nothing to solve the issue.
And then even after finally dealing with the bots, keeping them muted anyway.
left sand
it did help tho
potent wolf
the evil game journalists 🙀
eternal haven
At least let me call medic bro
drowsy marlin
I'm thankful that valve did add a chat filter and you can censor out words.
I hope slurs are filtered out by default because they should
wintry marlin
You can choose between none, swears, slurs and swears.
Within your steam settings.
They are applied universally across all valve multiplayer games that way.
And all of steam.
Other developers can choose to implement this chat filtering system if they wish so.
summer willow
i really dont care seeing slurs, people should just be punished instead of hiding their degeneracy
wintry marlin
This is what tf2, cs2 and dota 2 uses for chat filtering.
summer willow
censoring chat wont change they ruining the game
wintry marlin
It's an individualist approach. Valve gives you the tools to deal with it instead of policing the community.
They give you the guns instead of hiring security.
wintry marlin
Blocking someone would be the nuclear option.
wintry marlin
❤️ ❤️ ❤️
summer willow
Blocking someone would be the nuclear option.
no
doesnt change nothing in game
which is the problem
summer willow
in cs2
but also it only change to you and after the game
which still sucks, maybe even worse
rare creek
I'm thankful that valve did add a chat filter and you can censor out words.
I h...
They only did it so the game would be allowed in china (china forces your steam chat filter to be on a specific list)
paper sluice
wintry marlin
You can choose to anonymize player names and profile pictures in cs2, you can also mute each individual player and it actually works.
But I don't remember if blocking hides chat messages completely.
summer willow
it still ruins the game...
wintry marlin
Not for you anymore and that's what valve considers enough.
rare creek
where do i get this
wintry marlin
The thing is, even with all those systems in place, cs2 is a game where turks and russians go to yell racial slurs and it's fun for them.
It's a bro game. For bros.
summer willow
Not for you anymore and that's what valve considers enough.
this normally only occur when you get in game, you can block mute whatever but you still playing with the same guy until the end
wintry marlin
Do you want to kill the guy irl or something
summer willow
this only works if you would find the same guy over an over again, which doesnt happens anyway
summer willow
Do you want to kill the guy irl or something
just someone step it up and block they to play and ruin others people games
wintry marlin
The game lets you kill them (in game) take satisfaction from that
wintry marlin
It's fine to kill people you don't like in cold blood (in game)
I really don't see Valve, a famously libertarian company, go out of their way and follow the steps of riot games.
And shove a sportsmanship rules of honor pop up the first time you boot the game that requires you to read and accept those rules before you start playing.
And then place a dedicated community manager for each game to play the executioner all day.
wintry marlin
Maybe if it really cut into their profits then something would be implemented
drowsy marlin
They only did it so the game would be allowed in china (china forces your steam ...
Even though I don't like how that's the only intension, better than nothing
wintry marlin
But the way I see it, they are afraid some UAE investor with 80k$ inventory might say something out of pocket snd have their assets frozen. And that is even worse publicity than just a moral panic.
wintry marlin
They don't want to piss off the wrong guy. A guy with lots of money.
summer willow
owwwwnnn
what will valve do if a mf that has a unusual hat be mad for spamming n word??????
thats the end really
valve doesnt need this
theres nothing to justify their behavior to let people like this
wintry marlin
Ethical choices don't make them more money. Well, some do.
wintry marlin
Valve ain't your friend.
summer willow
lets people go away from games because of toxicity, definitely this make more money that way right?
summer willow
Valve ain't your friend.
and?
kind falcon
lets people go away from games because of toxicity, definitely this make more mo...
theyre gonna sell their items and participate in the virtual economy that way. or do nothing and still impact x
not like valve deeply cares about the tf2 player count
summer willow
valve is not my friend but should be friends of racists right?
kind falcon
are they friends of racists
you choose to see or not to see the racism
"why give the platform?" sure, they can monitor text chat but the voice chat is still unfiltered and networked as is without saving
idk im the racist guy anyway. tralalelo tralalala
summer willow
chat is all its needed
kind falcon
one day
wintry marlin
Their choices directly lead to racists being allowed on the platform.
They do this because they know who their target demographic and existing customer base is. Mostly outside US.
wintry marlin
Besides, it is futile for them to monitor anglo-centric conduct when it can be easily circumvented with any other language.
kind falcon
there are a bunch of other language filters
summer willow
Besides, it is futile for them to monitor anglo-centric conduct when it can be e...
just stop
wintry marlin
there are a bunch of other language filters
A lot of false positives.
eternal haven
where do i get this
nvidia control panel
summer willow
valve already has everything... they just turn the eye to ignore
small sirenBOT
kind falcon
A lot of false positives.
false positives or cases not covered
wintry marlin
Main reason the way things are is that Valve are just very libertarian, to an aggravating extent. They wouldn't do anything to impose western ideals onto their playerbase unless there is pushback from western media.
kind falcon
right. "lesbo" is filtered out. Tough luck
summer willow
Main reason the way things are is that Valve are just very libertarian, to an ag...
"western ideals" = punishing players for being assholes
ok
eternal haven
I mean policing speech based on words is kinda cringe
People saying slurs and stuff aren't suddenly better to be around if they can't say those specific words
Theyre sitll bad people
Better to just avoid or block them
Who cares if their chats are censored, they're still not good to be around even then
wintry marlin
"western ideals" = punishing players for being assholes
Pretty much.
summer willow
racism sure is a invention of usa
kind falcon
100
wintry marlin
Well, USA also really loved slavery. So much that they went to civil war to keep their rights to it. Very libertarian country.
There is a pattern here.
Small correction then
Valve are very traditional.
Their ideals are already aligned with their home base.
Punishing assholes is a radical new concept they haven't discovered yet.
summer willow
so we can agree valve is racist?
wintry marlin
Truly, this is the darkest timeline.
Always have been.
I'm not playing devil's advocate.
I'm saying why it sucks.
Even if my reasoning is underresearched.
Niterux is also absolutely correct.
Niterux is the biggest valve hater this side of mcord, you should talk to them about it
summer willow
https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-petting-my-cat-harder-each-time-pats-patting-gif-2116822158946238962
wintry marlin
right. "lesbo" is filtered out. Tough luck
That's me
eternal haven
If valve starts filtering words then you can't tell who the weirdos are
If they let people say any word then it's easier to identify the weirdos and mute them entirely or kick them from your server or block them on steam
rare creek
I feel like if they just banned weirdos altogether then there would be no weirdos anymore!
eternal haven
That's abusable though
You'd probably get a fair amount of people typing bad words on their friend's account or tricking people into typing them
If you get instabanned from steam for bad words
rare creek
oh so just letting people just say those things is better? got it
wintry marlin
If you get instabanned from steam for bad words
That happens on roblox on a regular basis.
And used to... on club penguin.
eternal haven
oh so just letting people just say those things is better? got it
Yeah because it makes it easy to identify them and it's easy to block those people from the places you care about
plus you can filter it clientside if you're streaming or something or you absolutely cannot see it
crisp cedar
wintry marlin
I feel like if they just banned weirdos altogether then there would be no weirdo...
Maybe all weirdos should go to prison idk, banning ain't enough, they'll just become vindictive
If they keep breaking rules just euthanize them, rip bozos
L gamer moment
rare creek
Yeah because it makes it easy to identify them and it's easy to block those peop...
or just ban them so at the very least they have to keep the weirdness to themselves
wintry marlin
I'm afraid of sounding like steamworks with my dry sarcasm so I add slop parlance
Or perhaps I should maximize vitriol
eternal haven
or just ban them *so at the very least they have to keep the weirdness to themse...
But they'll just make another steam account
and learn not to say the bad words
and join your games
and you won't know because they wont say the bad phrases
but theyre still people you probably don't want
Steam's current system is good, allow weirdos to say whatever they want, allow users to filter it clientside if they don't want to see it, allow server owners to moderate their servers
wintry marlin
League of Legends has disabled voice chat to minimize toxicity.
It never went away.
People are banned and then they return, again and again.
hidden gyro
Since when
eternal haven
all chat doesnt work
since forever
but people publicized it recently
past few months
kind falcon
League of Legends has disabled voice chat to minimize toxicity.
riot games never "enabled" team voice chat in league
kind falcon
but people publicized it recently
what is the method bro 💔
kind falcon
https://tenor.com/view/ping-command-league-of-legends-lol-gif-23818523
this one sucks
eternal haven
I think the reason the colors don't work in all chat is because the 2 control character disables any following ones
Idk didnt look how it actually works
but spec/team/dead don't have the 2
eternal haven
what is the method bro 💔
Read thru hud_basechat.cpp vro
or just google it it's very popular
kind falcon
Read thru hud_basechat.cpp vro
What i s .cpp . Im new to computer
hidden gyro
C++
potent wolf
c preprocessor
kind falcon
43++ = 44 (D)
hidden gyro
c preprocessor
assembly preprocessor
eternal haven
Anyways if you put a hex or hex alpha color code it will remove it or something but you can put another after that and it won't remove that one
kind falcon
this shit bangs
kind falcon
Anyways if you put a hex or hex alpha color code it will remove it or something ...
ur haker men
dont hack me
eternal haven
I didnt find it bro someone else found it
eternal haven
radiant merlin
kind falcon
wonder when will mr. aw stop monitoring ssdk2013 issues like its his job
eternal haven
Don't worry https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013/pull/1155
Pretty sure this guy's fix and description are both wrong
I mean his description is obviously wrong but I think his fix just coincidentally looks to fix it
his fix is making it change the wrong characters to color_normal
small sirenBOT
eternal haven
which just happens to overwrite the following color code specifier character thing, breaking the bug from working
but it's not the proper way to fix it
In fact his fix might actually introduce a new bug, I think it could remove the null terminator
Let's not comment on the PR I think it would be a funny experiment to see if they actually merge this or if they spend a minute looking it over
summer willow
uhh
radiant merlin
preparasao
summer willow
preparação
radiant merlin
doesn't the ç sounds like s?
summer willow
kinda
velvet raft
just another day of mastercoms spreading misinformation and trolling,,,
mcoms: misinformed communications
potent wolf
and here i thought i was miss information
tacit flare
Let's not comment on the PR I think it would be a funny experiment to see if the...
Should this not be a given? They can't be bothered to test basic map requirements before adding them, let alone code.
// Yes, this removes the null terminator. Too bad.
oblique tangle
reporting does something
only for the first week during FixTF2, after that i stopped getting 'action taken' notifications
wild grove
Should this not be a given? They can't be bothered to test basic map requirement...
Gotta fill the amateur creator map quota.
oblique tangle
does mastercomfig enable bicubic lightmaps at higher presets?
rare creek
it doesn't?
oblique tangle
it doesn't?
yeah barely
sterile ferry
why does comfig only let you set min crosshair size to 16
left sand
why does comfig only let you set min crosshair size to 16
idk, that was just the random limit chosen, what is a better limit, i can change it
sterile ferry
i mean idk what a good limit actually is but i was just curious cuz i recently changed mine to 12
but i guess smth like 8 would be nicer for those that like it smaller without it just being invisible
eternal haven
Does anyone know why the launch options don't work for frog fortress sourcemod
like I put -novid but it still plays vid for instance
left sand
because its gay and woke
eternal haven
but like actually
do you know why they dont work when launching as sourcemod?
the process is getting them
but they just like don't do anything
I know it's gay and woke but that doesn't explain why the launch options not working
I guess some launch options work but cant get novid working for whatever reason
eternal haven
yeah that is task manager
or process explorer whatever
that's the running process
steam passed it the arguments
but novid just does nothing, whether I put it in steam launch options for frog fortress or for source sdk base multiplayer 2013
left sand
idk tbh, do you know if it works with the mod_tf exe?
eternal haven
Yeah it does I think
it's something weird about launching it as a steam sourcemod
instead of using the mod_tf exe launcher
and source sdk base multiplayer 2013 accepts novid and it works
just when launching a sourcemod it doesn't work
rare creek
hjave you tried moving -novid behind -game
rare creek
no behidn
rare creek
no it's in front of it
eternal haven
Niterux I am going to kill you with hammers
eternal haven
That was before you trolled me
rare creek
no
eternal haven
maybe something that parses the arguments gets fucked up by the space in the game path even though it's quoted?
rare creek
yup
eternal haven
I don't understand why some arguments would work but novid doesn't
small sirenBOT
eternal haven
haiku bot doesn't understand that either
heavy solarBOT
@eternal haven has leveled up! (31 ➜ 32)
eternal haven
I tried a path without spaces and it still plays the video if novid is behind game and doesn't play it if novid is in front of it
I guess it has to do with there being 2 -games
steam inserts -game sourcetest and -game [mod path]
if you get rid of -game sourcetest it behaves as expected
rare creek
valve rolls "worst code ever" asked to leave the game industry
eternal haven
I wonder why steam inserts -game sourcetest when you launch a sourcemod
isnt sourcetest the benchmark thing that opens when you launch sdk 2013 without launching a mod
rare creek
it probably just copies the default source sdk 2013 launch options and adds another -game onto the end of it
eternal haven
it probably just copies the default source sdk 2013 launch options and adds anot...
OK can you have gaben fix it
rare creek
i dont care enough to even email his publically known and open email address
eternal haven
Wait it does end up being a parsing error I think
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer\hl2_win64.exe" -steam" -novid" "-nobreakpad" "-nominidumps" -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\sourcemods\mod_tf" -insecure
that's what the game thinks it's launched with
rare creek
well that's not good ☹️
eternal haven
If you launch without -game sourcetest the arguments don't get mangled
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer\hl2_win64.exe" "-steam" "-game" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\sourcemods\mod_tf" "-novid" "-nobreakpad" "-nominidumps"
eternal haven
Yeah idk having two -games messes it up but I'm too stupid to find where the bug is
eternal haven
Are those potatoes
orchid sorrel
Yes
summer willow
never seen before
rare creek
actually this has been seen before by many
eternal haven
I saw that yesterday
summer willow
actually this has been seen before by many
i know
what happened to engineer va? i think its the best character in the game
wild grove
Bruh is off the grid (good)
uncut spear
he fucking EXPLODED
wild grove
he rex sploded
high current
reporting players do something?
You get a notification if one of the people you reported gets banned
My bad. Opened discord in a bunker and it didn’t update so you’re welcome for the late reply.
uncut spear
actually specific question, does reporting from the leaderboard work?
maybe it's because there's like no sound or feedback to it so my brain doesn't know
rare creek
actually specific question, does reporting from the leaderboard work?
it sends a report but reports dont work
uncut spear
are you saying that like "valve doesn't do shit lel" or they don't actually work in-game?
kind falcon
they work
rare creek
valve doesn't do shit lel
kind falcon
they have been far more neglected for the most part
they did something a year ago or something
so They Do Something lel
eternal haven
(I reported weather for cheating)
eternal haven
Don't worry https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013/pull/1155
Can anyone spot what the actual bug is here
That allows for typing colored text
Ngl it took me embarrassingly long to see it, like 30+ minutes
rare creek
Can anyone spot what the actual bug is here
i thought rendering colored text was a feature of the chat
eternal haven
Well it is a feature of the chat to do that, but in chat messages sent from players it's supposed to filter out the custom colors and just make them default color
eternal haven
So players can't send colored chats
how is the ReadChatTextString function
see if you can spot the bug in it
radiant merlin
trimping spot in burghausen
crisp cedar
it sends a report but reports dont work
the function of a report and an action being taken on a report are two seperate things
reporting works, valve likely has a huge database of reports they can do things with
and theyve done things with them before
rare creek
reporting works, valve likely has a huge database of reports they can do things ...
It's verifyably true that they store all of the reports but they just never do anything with them they dont work
uncut spear
stubby flare gun :3
also this finally got an update after some time
and it's looking good
kind falcon
It's verifyably true that they store all of the reports but they just never do a...
its verifyably true that they ban cheaters that play 12 hours a day
small sirenBOT
drowsy marlin
Oooh that materials mod is delicious
Restores that classic metallic look that was lost
wild grove
Very simple materials mod, if you REALLY want that v/w_ style weapon look, you would need to find mods that modify the base texture and alpha channels of the base, albedo texture, and its variants. Hell maybe even the AO if you're crazy enough.
paper sluice
If you’re even crazier you can uv transfer the v_model textures to the c model uv
tacit flare
When are we getting Team Fortress 2: Episode 1?
eternal haven
tf2 is not episodic :/
wild grove
When are we getting Bejeweled 4 is the real question, all those clones forgetting what the real OG is.
mystic anchor
oblique tangle
swag ass song and hitsound
mystic anchor
swag ass song and hitsound
was vibing at midnight
void slate
Is it true that the custom folder load order is sorted using the ASCII table?
eternal haven
They're definitely added as search paths in alphabetical order yes
as for how files are loaded or reloaded I'm not sure
int V_stricmp( const char *str1, const char *str2 )
{
// It is not uncommon to compare a string to itself. See
// VPanelWrapper::GetPanel which does this a lot. Since stricmp
// is expensive and pointer comparison is cheap, this simple test
// can save a lot of cycles, and cache pollution.
if ( str1 == str2 )
{
return 0;
}
const unsigned char *s1 = (const unsigned char*)str1;
const unsigned char *s2 = (const unsigned char*)str2;
for ( ; *s1; ++s1, ++s2 )
{
if ( *s1 != *s2 )
{
// in ascii char set, lowercase = uppercase | 0x20
unsigned char c1 = *s1 | 0x20;
unsigned char c2 = *s2 | 0x20;
if ( c1 != c2 || (unsigned char)(c1 - 'a') > ('z' - 'a') )
{
// if non-ascii mismatch, fall back to CRT for locale
if ( (c1 | c2) >= 0x80 ) return stricmp( (const char*)s1, (const char*)s2 );
// ascii mismatch. only use the | 0x20 value if alphabetic.
if ((unsigned char)(c1 - 'a') > ('z' - 'a')) c1 = *s1;
if ((unsigned char)(c2 - 'a') > ('z' - 'a')) c2 = *s2;
return c1 > c2 ? 1 : -1;
}
}
}
return *s2 ? -1 : 0;
}```That's the comparison function used for sorting the search paths before insertion
rare creek
critical race theory found in the tf2 source code, valve cancelled
eternal haven
It is kinda weird that valve implemented their own stuff for all of this isn't it?
for like string compare and sort and everything
Are they just too good to use the filthy crt library functions?
potent wolf
Are they just too good to use the filthy crt library functions?
yes
eternal haven
It's also weird that they say it's not uncommon to compare a string to itself
that does not seem common enough to warrant an extra check in every string compare
potent wolf
i mean it is gonna be extremely cheap to check
eternal haven
Okay but how often do you compare a string to itself
Coludnt you just do the check there
I feel like in a typical codebase less than 1% of the string compares are against equivalent pointers
potent wolf
i mean i guess but does it even matter
potent wolf
its like literally 2 instructions on x86_64
eternal haven
But what if you do 789432708934257890345 strcmps against different pointers
and like 20 aganist same
rare creek
what the ufck is the point of a "string comparsion" if it's not to check whether 2 strings are the same?????
eternal haven
It checks whether a string is less than or equal to or greater than another
potent wolf
it makes perfect sense actually
void slate
```cpp
int V_stricmp( const char *str1, const char *str2 )
{
// It is not un...
Interestiing because a friend of mine had a vpk mod, name started with [ which in windows file manager was above another mod starting with an A.
Yet the mod starting with an A overrode the mod starting with [
No scope direct hit > rpg pack > improved material \ fixed material > ultimate visual fix in cueki's preloader add-on VPK
potent wolf
Interestiing because a friend of mine had a vpk mod, name started with [ which i...
consult with your printout of an ascii table
eternal haven
void slate
consult with your printout of an ascii table
Yes, though in an ascii table capital letter matter
eternal haven
this is case insensitive
A-Z are each treated to be equivalent to a-z
order in windows file explorer is not relevant at all
to tf2
small sirenBOT
eternal haven
Wait does winodws not allow filenames starting with spaces?
I knew it doesn't like filenames ending in periods or spaces but I didn't know about beginning with space
windows is so stupid
potent wolf
windows paths are horrible
eternal haven
so bad
Anyways if you really care about tf2 adding your mod search path before others I think it's best to name it just a single exclamation point
seems like the first character that windows doesn't complain about
rare creek
wouldnt you want to name your mod zzzzz instead
actually what order does it matter does
eternal haven
I guess modders are getting petty and they want their mod to override someone else's mod if both people mod the same files and the user is stupid?
otherwise yeah I can't see why it matters
maybe there are legitimate reasons to want a certain mod to override a different one if the user has both but idk I can't really think of any reason
void slate
maybe there are legitimate reasons to want a certain mod to override a different...
Yes for compatibility patches, notability .vmt edits or textures or even .mdl files
eternal haven
How do you know what other mods a user has though and how do you know that your mod should replace parts of those?
It seems like a problem that's best left up to the user
If they have multiple mods that mod the same files they can decide from which mod they want those files to come
I don't think anything has to be done about it on the modders' part
I mean it's whatever and doesn't matter but it would just be kinda cringe if all the mods on game banana start beginning with !
uncut spear
No scope direct hit > rpg pack > improved material \ fixed material > ultimate v...
wait what symbol do they use for the preloader vpk?
and it isn't a problem if they change from _?
oh wait vpk
those are all folders lel
left sand
Are they just too good to use the filthy crt library functions?
its actually a huge perf difference
eternal haven
Yeah good point
valve can cut corners in some places I'm sure
and still have things work for everything they need
left sand
the CRT has to handle an extremely general and unknown case
eternal haven
and it's 'good enough' for a game
left sand
the valve one is decent but you can do better
eternal haven
Mastercoms avx 512 strcmp when ???
rare creek
Mastercoms avx 512 strcmp when ???
this is why thorium is so fast
eternal haven
Could you actually use avx for string compare or wouldn't it work or would it be slower
I dont really know anything at all about avx
summer willow
avx for string? idk nothing but i thought it was for vectors
eternal haven
It's for performing the same operation on multiple data at the same time
You could treat parts of the string as the data couldnt you?
But there might be issues with like how the string ends or maybe finding the actual character it's different at would be actually slower
like I said idk anything about avx at all
summer willow
You could treat parts of the string as the data couldnt you?
maybe, seems a lot of effort for strings but i didnt get the context
why the matter on string compare?
eternal haven
Well it's a lot of effort for anything
but you can speed up anything that is parallelizable
potentially anyways
left sand
you probably cant because its so conditional but idk
eternal haven
I think glibc uses sse4 or avx2 for some string functions
including comparisons maybe?
left sand
at that point id recommend a fixed string allocator
and just pool uniques by allocation id + a case insensitive id
then you just compare ints
eternal haven
left sand
c is a mess lol
eternal haven
thats not c vro
left sand
yes it is
im complaining about the interface
the requirements
its precisely because of c that you need like all that macro junk for wcstr strrsitim nsnhhhhvcff whatever
because c is incapable of making non-shit long term interfaces
so you have to write a pile of junk
to support variants
eternal haven
I feel like you'd need a pile of junk at the low levels of any language that tries to be as ubiquitous and performant as c
left sand
java for example has equivalents for all these string compares and its way better
left sand
I feel like you'd need a pile of junk at the low levels of any language that tri...
you dont understand my complaint then
eternal haven
how do you know there's not a pile of junk under java vms
small sirenBOT
left sand
i mean all the USE AS macros
left sand
how do you know there's not a pile of junk under java vms
because ive literally developed on the JVM?
eternal haven
Is there no junk under it?
left sand
literally wrote production code specifically for special case string stuff both within the low level machine code for string comparison in java and wrote modifications to the JVM
eternal haven
at any layer?
left sand
thats not what im talking about lol
im specifically talking about the interface pile of junk
c mandates you write all this monolithic function leaning tower of pisa shit
over 40 years
because theres no good way to distinguish variants in c
eternal haven
Ngl all of this is over my head
left sand
besides making new functions
so you get lpcwstricmpft_sec__n
and then you have to implement it using absurd amounts of fragile glue to support all these slight variants
look at how much macro slop is in here just because c has no good way to support mixins, traits, variants, etc at a low level
it must be a nightmare to maintain, upgrade, extend, etc
imagine upgrading and extending string code over 40 years to facilitate the needs and demands of the users
using such a limited macro slop system
where you cant even distinguish between types of memory input properly
left sand
at least c++ has support for type traits and generics with templating and shit
they dont have to go through this amount of hell
the CRT is way cleaner because of that
eternal haven
How is comparing strings in libstdc++ implemented?
Does it fall back to c or have they implemented it from scratch on all platforms or what?
left sand
i dont remember exactly but i remember last time i was checking for stuff relevant at least to me, a lot of it fell back to c
i think clang is different though
eternal haven
I guess I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the things that are better than the "pile of junk" end up standing on the shoulders of the pile of junk
but idk much about how things are implemented
left sand
I guess I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the things that are better than the ...
i think this is misinformation spread by proud c husks
like the notion that everything is based upon c is false
theres tons of modern systems which bootstrap themselves
next nymph
look at how much macro slop is in here just because c has no good way to support...
solution: even more macros
summer willow
i fucking love support class
rare creek
ctf 2fort 500 hour
velvet raft
```cpp
int V_stricmp( const char *str1, const char *str2 )
{
// It is not un...
what do you work in x?
in general i mean
kind falcon
unemployed llc
eternal haven
unemployed llc
Yes
distant mango
Has anyone had issues on Linux TF2 with custom HUD fonts even after making sure everything is lowercase both in clientscheme.res and the actual files themselves? Everything seems to check out, but the fonts still revert to system defaults in most HUDs I've tried.
BudHud is the only exception but I can't seem to replicate the successful use of custom fonts in other HUDs.
I even tried deleting the libraries in the linux64 folder that relate to fonts.
rare creek
do you think that it's the date their funeral was held or something?
summer willow
Has anyone had issues on Linux TF2 with custom HUD fonts even after making sure ...
yeah i had some issues
theres a way to fix it but i didnt look into
theres a issue on flawhud about this that @unborn pecan made (sorry for ping)
distant mango
theres a issue on flawhud about this that <@270038519995432960> made (sorry for ...
I looked into pretty much every solution I could find online. I even tried searching around in this Discord server, but alas, no luck.
https://github.com/Hypnootize/bx-hud
This is the HUD I've been trying to get the custom fonts working for. It seems like other HUD elements, such as the custom charge meter, are broken on Linux as well, though I've not even tried to see if any of this works on Windows.
summer willow
@distant mango try rename the fonts to lowercase
you also need to change on the hud files
https://github.com/CriticalFlaw/flawhud/commit/5890a8dae535919b77905a8dc310c2c5575ee11f see the commit
distant mango
you also need to change on the hud files
Already did this all, as a matter of fact, the latest branch of BX-HUD on Hypnootize's GitHub has all of this done, minus renaming the font definitions in clientscheme.res, though I did this on my own copy and the custom fonts still refuse to load, rather reverting to default (in my case, Dejavu Sans).
summer willow
i remember to use custom font you need to install on your system?
like .local/share/fonts
but idk if its the case anymore, i can use flawhud just fine without sdoing nothing
distant mango
I installed it systemwide and for the user with the KDE font installer.
summer willow
you only need to install on the user btw
distant mango
I'm completely stumped, but both BudHud and UltraHUD have working custom fonts on my same install, so I know it's possible. I've just not been able to replicate whatever they do differently.
summer willow
i mean
distant mango
I even did a fresh re-install of TF2 with no difference.
summer willow
the hud updated 10 months ago, recent update broke huds so it might need to update other things
distant mango
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what else needs changed.
I've looked through the commits of the HUDs with working fonts since the SDK update that broke everything and I can't find anything different that I've not done yet.
eternal haven
Maybe the font name case matters?
Not just the name of the file but like the names of the fonts in the font family or whatever
I have never personally seen a case where installing (custom) fonts system wide is required in tf2
usually when people tell you to do that it is not the correct solution
but idk maybe this new linux font bug is different
distant mango
Yeah, I've tried everything, I even tried changing the fonts to be completely friendly to any strange bug by making the font definition (and name of the font within the HUD) "robotocondensed" and used a find & replace across all HUD files to update to a Sourcefuckery-friendly name.
summer willow
Yeah, I've tried everything, I even tried changing the fonts to be completely fr...
its good to remember that the file name doesnt change the internal font name
which is the one you use on tf2 sometimes (i dont really understand)
also what the format of the font?
i dont know if it could have something to do it but
i could be wrong
anyway
ever tried go to tf2 hud discord server?
even asking directly to hypnotize or creating a issue on gh
literally just one hud that they maintain got an updated https://gamebanana.com/mods/291596
broken haven
i still rock my toonhud from like 2016...
velvet raft
@next nymph now tf2 economy can be used in political discourse
wild grove
lmao
South park skit in the making.
If your economy is so bad, why are you wearing strange cosmetics, a australium scattergun, and strange skins huh?!
paper sluice
what
left sand
congrats!
paper sluice
i dont even know what i did https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1099127552137764975.webp?size=48&name=sobin
eternal haven
I know what you did
summer steeple
¯_(ツ)_/¯
thats the most recent way you were supposed to be able to get it
according to the wiki
paper sluice
i dont think i did that lol
summer steeple
someone fucked up?
paper sluice
i think its cuz of pf2 perhaps
summer steeple
maybe
paper sluice
not complaining tho