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#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year
summer steeple
idk i don't play comp
unborn pecan
@left sand
summer steeple
why are you just pinging random people lol
hoary geyser
@unborn pecan
spring kestrel
isn't this a comp map?
6s? I don't think so.
It isn't koth or 5cp so it's already unlikely, and the map itself I don't recognize
cursive peak
I don't recognize that map from HL either.
summer steeple
true...
mystic turtle
the huntsman, crossbow, guillotine, and wrap assassin would have a word with you /j
but yea, at last. after years of waiting, a new medieval mode map
eternal haven
isn't this a comp map?
no
unborn pecan
ok
unborn pecan
the huntsman, crossbow, guillotine, and wrap assassin would have a word with you...
it's whatever
maybe the mode is just poopy
mystic turtle
perhaps
then again at least in the majority of cases the mercs make their louder and funnier crit death screams
wild grove
play with bots, funniest experience you can have with the game since it's a 50/50 chance you just die from a stock bot melee critting you.
summer steeple
I thought the map was ok
tough locust
used to play 24/7 degroot keep with my buddies back in the day the fun comes from every goofy ridiculous troll strat being viable
summer steeple
it felt way more DM-y then degroot
mystic turtle
who doesn't want to hear Scout's voice enter the upper registers or Spy's loud screams
summer steeple
the near instant respawns and the fact that hte objective was like just in front of spawn felt weird
idk why spawn times got longer as the stages progressed
normally stage 1 is supposed to be easiest lol
tough locust
working with your friends to do stupid combos that would never work in a real game like the volcano fragment plus SoaS or mad milk plus neon annihilator
unborn pecan
it felt way more DM-y then degroot
same
summer steeple
also no bagpipe music every 10 seconds 0/10
orchid sorrel
they should allow gas and jetpack in medieval 👼
tough locust
the near instant respawns and the fact that hte objective was like just in front...
yeah it felt like 80 percent of the map wasnt used bc it was a one point moshpit i think that's why vale split up the points for a tual degroot keep so that the first 2 poibts coukd actually get capped
otherwise still any medieval stuff is automatically fun asf, feels refreshing
unborn pecan
also no bagpipe music every 10 seconds 0/10
on god
mystic turtle
also no bagpipe music every 10 seconds 0/10
aww, that was one of the best parts of degroot
at least you can open youtube in the background and blast Scotland Forever there, it's a passable substitute
wild grove
megaton is really wierd with singleplayer bots, there's 0 flying demos.
everyone just goes to the point and stays around there which leads to moments where a good chunk of the team can die to a fart (crocket)
languid haven
How'd you feel if there was a tf2 single player campaign? Like a section would even be rocket jumping from skyscraper to skyscraper.
kind falcon
9/11?
wild grove
How'd you feel if there was a tf2 single player campaign? Like a section would e...
That depends, would it go a story driven route or the worms route (not story driven, just random pocket stories like the enemy did this, stop them before they do something worse!)
radiant merlin
i don't get why valve still adds unusuals
they don't directly receive any money from them
unlike with war paints for example
summer steeple
i mean it is an indirect source of money
wild grove
clearly it still makes em good money, even if not a lot.
radiant merlin
they could just assign the new crate with a selection of previous unusuals
summer steeple
alongside rarer hats and paints people buy keys to get unusuals
soft lynx
people are more interested in gambling for new unusuals
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
and new unusuals helps stimulate the market
plus it comes with 0 downside to valve
tough locust
https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-346862...
difference is that CSGO skin creators easily get 250k+ per skin added to the game
surprising too bc apparently CSGO map makers only get like 50k bc there aren't exactly key sales from maps
floral sandal
did jiggle bones for weapons break in the latest update, or is it only me?
also
is my GPU dying
orchid sorrel
i don't get why valve still adds unusuals
encourages more unboxing, but they definitely add way too many at this point
orchid sorrel
Unrelated but
TF2 war painters and CS2 skin creators only getting 1 case a year
if we even get a halloween case
wild grove
did jiggle bones for weapons break in the latest update, or is it only me?
Jigglebones break sometimes, plus that occurs in some jungle inferno maps too.
wild grove
if we even get a halloween case
we'll wait and see, start rioting if they don't add one at all this year.
wispy shale
i think i can live without new cosmetics
wild grove
I can't, I must have em all!
wispy shale
seeing as we're reaching a point where even the "good" cosmetics aren't distinct from stuff already in the game
wild grove
MORE MORE MORE HAHAHAHAHHA
wispy shale
if anything i'd prefer more war paints, since there are tons of good ones on the workshop, but a lot of them have custom mapping so valve won't add them
i dunno, i think now that the bots are gone i'm less concerned with what valve adds to the game, since the game is properly playable now
wild grove
with bots gone, time to dwindle playernumbers since there's nothing to bitch about 
At least nothing to bitch in the eyes of someone who realises how old the game is.
wispy shale
Actually the one thing I am concerned about now is maps, because there's been a pretty noticeable dip in quality in regards to visuals
I mentioned before how embargo and overgrown don't match the TF2 artstyle with all the highly saturated colors, but it's been a thing for a little while now with galleria and turbine winter
wispy shale
yes because i care about the maps i play on and i care that they actually look decent
wild grove
omg omg it doesn't fit the style guys wah wah wah! Devs can set the style buddy.
wispy shale
Yes and the style has already been set
wild grove
yes, what they are picking rn is the style.
wispy shale
Maybe I don't want the game to become an oversaturated mess like every other "cartoony" game out there
Especially since in some cases the playermodels can get lost in some of the textures used
wild grove
playermodels already get lost since players want to disable rimlighting LOL
wispy shale
They're not nearly as easy on the eyes as basically any other map
compare embargo and camber, two "newer" maps and it's a night and day difference
wild grove
Yeah cause they are new environments, something the game doesn't deviate from? Hello? Don't people want new stuff
wispy shale
You can make new stuff while respecting the color palette
The game didn't have snow maps or jungle maps at launch yet we have plenty of those now
wild grove
bro look at the colors, they are not too different from one another
wispy shale
One is extremely saturated and the other is soft
wild grove
They both look fine to me my g
wispy shale
ah yes the #1 argument of people who don't give a fuck about the visuals, "it doesnt bother me"
wispy shale
You don't need to be an artist to realise when shit looks off, that's like saying you can't criticise food if you aren't a chef
wild grove
Shit doesn't look off here, you need to get your eyes checked dude
wispy shale
Can you not notice the color saturation
jagged pawn
You don't need to be an artist to realise when shit looks off
but you kinda do need to be an artist to explain your viewpoint in any meaningful way beyond "it looks off", so if anyone ever disagrees with you you'll hit a wall
wispy shale
I think you're the one who needs your eyes checked
jagged pawn
there are plenty of heavily saturated maps that you like so it's not saturation
wispy shale
there are plenty of heavily saturated maps that you like so it's not saturation
Well I don't, I've already criticised most of the other worst offenders in the game
jagged pawn
like I don't think it's fair to say that, say, watchtower or process for example are as washed out as some of the other older maps so it's not just saturation
gorge
foundry
there are colorful maps
hell if I wanna go extreme I could say like 2fort invasion lmao
suijin
wispy shale
Even gorge isn't nearly as saturated as embargo, with the sole exception of the team-colored-stripe on the building
Or even foundry's red sheet metal
jagged pawn
I think applejack is probably the only map where this argument lands for me
bc yes that one is cranked up pretty aggressively
wispy shale
yeah applejack is pretty bright
The closest point of comparison would probably be harvest, which is still much softer
wild grove
yeah applejack is pretty bright
I think that even with that, it still looks pleasant.
left sand
wild grove
what lol
orchid sorrel
https://youtube.com/shorts/vXmrxcNkbUI
mvm smg snipers
wild grove
Flamethrower OP
paper sluice
this is the coolest texture mod ever
like look at this
this isnt painted over its the normal map creating that painterly look
like im gonna shit myself thats such a cool idea
wispy shale
This is pretty good
Scout's hand wraps are definitely too harsh, but the rest is really nice
If TF2 were to get a graphical upgrade ala CS2, this is the kind of thing I'd expect, touching up the models and bringing them a tad closer to that mid-century painterly look
like on the example with scout's shirt, you can see the brush strokes, it's a really nice effect
tough locust
omg omg it doesn't fit the style guys wah wah wah! Devs can set the style buddy.
disagree on this one bc there's new maps that fit the style but the texture work and lighting on embargo is just straight bad imo. the lighting is super diffuse and low contrast, where the ambient darkness is basically the same as the brightest points in the map. OG oldhead TF2 maps have super high contrast lighting with deep ambient color outside of the playable space. Camber and Emerge are new maps that come to mind that fit the style really well. Honestly most of the new maps are pretty faithful visually except for Overgrown and Embargo. Odyssey has extremely goodl ighting too
some of the new halloween maps are some of the worst offenders when it comes to mid lighting. Examples I can think of are sandcastle, monster bash, cursed cove, and Sanitarium. At least those maps still have extremely good texture & model work that makes up for the crappy lighting though.
wispy shale
Hadn't considered lighting myself, but that is a contributing factor
In fact that's probably one of the reasons why I've always felt iffy about a lot of the newer halloween maps
tough locust
i do think the tf2 style overall has drifted into it's own thing which isn't necessarily bad. New cosmetics (regardless of whether they "fit the artstyle durrr"!!) or not are made kinda differently. What would normally be thin slivers on things are large, geometric shapes. The physical thickness of stuff like hat brims, sleeves, and shirt collars are all chunkier and more square than they used to be since they don't have to obsess over optimization and saving polygons.
For example: take something like the Brand Loyalist vs. the Ellis Cap or the Mann co cap. It's not worse i love the new hat, it's just that it's a different style
wispy shale
Yeah I have noticed cosmetics getting chunkier over time
wild grove
Became more professional because the creators got better over time.
Literally one of them works with SEGA hardlight
wispy shale
I still think they look fine since they can just be read as larger hats, which do exist IRL, but I'd be keeping an eye on it
I've noticed it a lot on body cosmetics as well where some of them will be blockier than older ones
wild grove
they have to work around the games limits
tough locust
they have to work around the games limits
yeah bc valve wont add new bodygroups so they have to build on top of stuff
wispy shale
I know about the fact that most body cosmetics have to be modelled over the base character model because they can't be bodygrouped out for some reason, it's why cosmetics with exposed skin tend to look a bit weird, but even then, comparing newer body cosmetics to older ones there's a noticeable difference
wild grove
not only that but have to deal with valves really bad rigging
wispy shale
a lot of this could be solved if valve actually bothered to do anything, i can't imagine it being difficult to add some new bodygroups to the merc models seeing as they already do it for pyro's head, demo's feet, etc.
but you know, valve is gonna valve
tough locust
a lot of this could be solved if valve actually bothered to do anything, i can't...
esp bc people have already made showcases of extra bodygroups as a community fix
its possible with like 6 hours of work
wild grove
esp bc people have already made showcases of extra bodygroups as a community fix
They would have to email em how to reproduce it because valve doesn't accept assets for community fixes.
tough locust
yeah
wispy shale
though, i mentioned this before, but they'd really have to fix that spy disguise bug where cosmetics don't load in and body parts become invisible, because it'd get way worse if people's torsos, arms and legs were disappearing
wild grove
or they don't accept it if the community members dont get financially compensated like what happened with smissmas 2023 having community contributed new menu images.
that was because krampus got in and members made new menu images, and asked valve if they could add it, we were also close to new achievements, and a weapon reskin too.
man is content creation stuff really interesting
tough locust
that was because krampus got in and members made new menu images, and asked valv...
:(
wild grove
yeah man, so close to something other than the status quo.
a summer wp case was also planned for this update but couldn't be done due to time (allegedly from cipherlock and a ""valve employee"" so I would take this with salt)
so yeah if this was true, they really couldn't wait to capitlize on themselves completely obliterating bots.
some of the war painter's reaction to this was as expected (PISSED)
orchid sorrel
time for what
to recolor a case and spend like an afternoon looking at war paint thumbnails
wild grove
Again, take it with salt.
tough locust
then again the war paint system is a pain in the ass to add because there isn't a modular way to make new ones, either they overwrite an existing skin or are completely made from scratch with custom stuff like rotation
it's not like a cosmetic where they can just gold star import a new one or whatever
formal dew
adds csgo skins; doesnt add csgo skin workbench
wild grove
I wouldn't be surprised if it's only 1 employee that knows how.
tough locust
I wouldn't be surprised if it's only 1 employee that knows how.
on god
wild grove
cause lets be real I don't think an employee other than eric smith and joshie want to touch the tf2 source engine branch :(
tough locust
its slightly less stupid with adding new maps but tis still stupid how they add them
tough locust
cause lets be real I don't think an employee other than eric smith and joshie wa...
its tragic but i dont blame them
wild grove
sorry I forgot the 2nd one goes by a different name now.
small sirenBOT
wild grove
that 2nd one is insane tho, bro did the 64 bit version and vscripting.
If it did have a update page, this would be a big thing to mention.
small sirenBOT
wild grove
wow bot, you did this twice.
glass musk
compare embargo and camber, two "newer" maps and it's a night and day difference
Embargo is good
believe or not man but most people agree with this opinion
majority of tf2 players like the map
reddit isn’t majority of players
wispy shale
Just because most people like something doesn't mean I have to
I think it clearly looks too saturated compared to nearly every other map in the game, maybe we should be keeping that in mind when judging new maps, not mindlessly sweeping it under the rug because "well I think it looks fine"
glass musk
Imo the summer update would have been terrible if we didn’t get embargo
I wish we could have gotten extinction
I wanted to see that map added
wispy shale
Keep in mind that all I'm criticising are the texture choices, you could easily tone down the color saturation and the map would look much better
jagged pawn
this is imo the first update in a long time with zero misses on the map pool
burnt dragon
I have no idea if Im getting old, but maps were either too saturated coloured and filled with props or simply empty maps with huge sightlines
burnt dragon
this is imo the first update in a long time with zero misses on the map pool
really?
I didnt really like overgrown
burnt dragon
no maps felt incomplete thats for sure
but like, embargo is just SO saturated it feels different than your casual tf2 maps
jagged pawn
I was bracing for another venice lol but it just never happened which is nice
burnt dragon
it makes me feel like it should have been an overwatch map
burnt dragon
I was bracing for another venice lol but it just never happened which is nice
god yea
glass musk
you might be too old
summer steeple
it makes me feel like it should have been an overwatch map
overwatch mentioned
burnt dragon
theres some problems on map named C... something
jagged pawn
days since a map is compared to overwatch
burnt dragon
that window textures were borked
glass musk
holy shit dejavu
burnt dragon
so you couldnt shoot thru them but there was no texture
glass musk
I’ve had this same discussion before
wispy shale
I'm kinda surprised venice even got into the game in the first place
Even after the rework it received, it just feels off
jagged pawn
it is absurdly bad
wispy shale
It's like a CS:GO map awkwardly upscaled to fit TF2
wispy shale
I like the theming of megaton, it fits very well into the 60s-70s cold war aesthetic that TF2 based itself upon, I just think the layout could use a lot of work
jagged pawn
lol
summer steeple
megaton is described by its creators as being designed more for those kind of 24/7 single map servers
so keep that in mind i guess
unborn pecan
I played embargo
jagged pawn
it plays like orange and I mean that in a good way
wispy shale
It can feel a lot like harvest sniper hell at times
jagged pawn
it plays like orange and I mean that in a good way
this is about megaton not embargo btw lol
jagged pawn
it is very clearly not meant to be taken seriously and that's ok, I like having maps like that occasionally
summer steeple
i'm really hesitant to say anything about the new maps rn cause i've barely played them and its just so subjective
glass musk
i'm really hesitant to say anything about the new maps rn cause i've barely play...
play more of embargo
it’s such a chill map
glass musk
you can just relax and have fun on it the most imo
summer steeple
wish people wouldn't shoot the robots as often :(
glass musk
the custom music is great
wispy shale
Really the main sticking points for this update are overgrown, embargo, and to an extent applejack just due to their bright ass color palettes feeling out of place, I get that people like making maps for new settings that aren't the typical desert industrial areas you usually see in TF2 but I don't think this is the way to do it
jagged pawn
tbh embargo is the only map I haven't played yet
glass musk
the announcers are great
jagged pawn
gonna try it rn
burnt dragon
embargo chokepoints are irritating
summer steeple
yeah embargo does have some tight chokes
glass musk
it’s still fun
glass musk
I don’t mind them at all
summer steeple
i'm not saying its bad at all
i'm a certified dustbowl enjoyer lol
chokes are like
my home
burnt dragon
no obv not but its tight that there was several times an engineer pyro combo just stopped the pushes for 5-6 mins
summer steeple
yeah some sentry spots can be rough if you don't have a bit of team coordination
burnt dragon
its casual
summer steeple
i had a game where we got stuck past 3rd for so long
like we capped
and then got stuck
burnt dragon
i had a game where we got stuck past 3rd for so long
at that point it gets irritating
summer steeple
with a sentry above the point
glass musk
at that point it gets irritating
I don’t agree
it’s way more fun for me if the game lasts the longest time possible
but I’m also a 2fort enjoyer so
summer steeple
imo its fine to get stuck because that means that they're putting up a good defense
its ok to lose sometimes
burnt dragon
I don’t agree
game progression while lasting longer is the good play imo
glass musk
imo its fine to get stuck because that means that they're putting up a good defe...
this
summer steeple
and i much prefer to lose at anywhere that isn't first or last
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
losing at first usually means a stomp
burnt dragon
the 5cp maps added also had a similar problem
summer steeple
losing at last usually means overtime at the very end of the map
burnt dragon
having 4th point in hand but the chokes are so so so bad that 5th point capture wasnt possible
so it was stalemates over and over
summer steeple
i just hate how long it can take
burnt dragon
5cp is like ctf
just enjoy yourself
appletree(?) map was also real good
too vibrant again
summer steeple
i feel like a lot of 5cp games are either:
A. stomps
B. stalemate (game ends)
C. stalemate (keep capping the same points over and over so the game never ends)
burnt dragon
but fun nonetheless
summer steeple
i couldn't even play applejack
the one time i got into it the server was friendly
summer steeple
a fate worse than death
summer steeple
I get it now
get what
burnt dragon
I... still dont like it but glad you guys enjoy it
jagged pawn
no I think it's garbage lmfao
burnt dragon
no I think it's garbage lmfao
LOL
jagged pawn
I finally got into it
I can see why it's so hard to queue for, no one wants to play it
jagged pawn
this is probably my final ranking tbh
wild grove
Canaveral, the victim of 5 cp
burnt dragon
overgrown plays like ass imo
wild grove
I enjoyed it when I played with single player bots.
canaveral
megaton is played way differently with sp bots too, there's 0 bots getting on the roof, most of em are on the middle, snipers are either at a window or somewhere else.
burnt dragon
megaton roof access is the dumbest part of the map
wild grove
Harvest 2 SWEEP
burnt dragon
so theres this roof that sees the mid point AND the spawn
harvest has it better
at least in harvest theres a wall before point
wild grove
Harvest 2: Harv me on vacation!
Coming to theatres 2024
You'd prolly have more fun with the map the way the sp bots play it lol
burnt dragon
with adam sandlers cloned genin
velvet raft
Embargo is good
not really, there are other options like steal
wild grove
Bah dumm psst
velvet raft
although in 2vs2 it may be useful
burnt dragon
rohan, give us your wisdom
I also think odyssey isnt a good map :')
it feels like 2 separate maps were stitched together
summer steeple
this is why i said 20 minutes ago that its all so subjective lol
burnt dragon
you got yourself casual tf2 map with good stand points
wild grove
medieval mode is so funny with sp bots as well, played the new map with em, all of them only used stock.
burnt dragon
THEN ITS GREEK ARCHITECTURE
burnt dragon
velvet raft
summer steeple
THEN ITS GREEK ARCHITECTURE
its like 80% greek architecture...
burnt dragon
its like 80% greek architecture...
I would say 60 40
summer steeple
idk i think it works
velvet raft
its like 80% greek architecture...
what's wrong with that
wild grove
this is why i said 20 minutes ago that its all so subjective lol
I mean yeah, but now you said that, I feel a existential crisis coming on.
summer steeple
im sorry
velvet raft
what's wrong with that
dudes with beautiful beards and tendencys for homoerotic relationships with other men isn't good enough for you?
velvet raft
i hope so.....
summer steeple
like where would we be if no one had differing opinions mannn
true
velvet raft
summer steeple
i mean its fine that we all have differing opinions
burnt dragon
rohan lost it again
summer steeple
good even
burnt dragon
dora him out
summer steeple
but sometimes I feel like people are so like
they feel like their opinion on a map is THE opinion of a map
velvet raft
rohan, give us your wisdom
for me, the best one is definitely earthquake, it will be reliable for many years to come
burnt dragon
for me, the best one is definitely earthquake, it will be reliable for many year...
stop giving us wisdom
velvet raft
wild grove
I really like using the grenade in worms.
burnt dragon
its time for wissub
wild grove
Mainly because a good chunk of turns have some unfavorable wind conditions
velvet raft
stop giving us wisdom
isn't wisdom something best served when we don't want it my apprentice?
burnt dragon
no
velvet raft
what if you want to play competitive Pokémon one day
wild grove
they feel like their opinion on a map is THE opinion of a map
true, tbh tho I personally think the line up is super strong, pretty much most of the maps that got in, was ones I wanted.
summer steeple
yeah i think the maps that got in are good picks
i don't really vibe with all of them
velvet raft
you'll never know
summer steeple
and thats fine
wild grove
VALVE add circus in the next scream fortress, then my life is yours! /j
velvet raft
VALVE add circus in the next scream fortress, then my life is yours! /j
do you need a plumber or why did you screamed Valve
burnt dragon
someone change their pfp to p4 josuke and get rid of rohan please
wild grove
yeah but he's also a plumber, a doctor, a referee, a uh tennis champ, a soccor champ, a go kart racer, a certified party animal, a space, and time traveler
a olympic medalist
velvet raft
someone change their pfp to p4 josuke and get rid of rohan please
p8 "Josuke" isn't Josuke
velvet raft
a jack off all trades
haha he said jack off
wild grove
Sonic can go fast, is also a olympian, can also become a pinball (like mario), has beated literal gods, and space creatures, also traveled thru time, and space.
summer steeple
ok but
wild grove
Bro wtf am I doing dude...
wild grove
like I am talking mario and sonic in a TF2 channel, what has my life become...
summer steeple
go fish
wild grove
noooo
summer steeple
actually that game was apparently the first released game to use martinet as the voice of mario
it came out in 1995 and SM64 came out in 96
velvet raft
actually that game was apparently the first released game to use martinet as the...
nerd
jagged pawn
this is probably a hot take
but I think odyssey is the single greatest payload map in tf2
I didn't wanna say it on first playthrough bc I was worried I was too hyped about the update
but it's so fucking good
velvet raft
@summer steeple im inside your walls again look behind you
wild grove
Is it bad that I am too scared to play the game with actual players rn? Last time I played actual tf2 was with sp bots.
And I had a shitton of fun.
the new medieval mode map especially, funniest shit in ages seeing all the classes only use stock melees, no demo knights, no huntsmans, just stock.
velvet raft
p8 josuke is a dick
dick is what you eat buddy
burnt dragon
dick is what you eat buddy
he should eat one yeah
velvet raft
answer the question smart guy, and do it before i have a colleague that does the bad cop
im not a bad cop myself because ill feel guilty, so colaborate
velvet raft
I kinda see why you got beating several times thru series rohan
it was only one time tho
burnt dragon
a child nearly beat you my guy
you cheated your way thru
a child with brain damage*
velvet raft
dude why are you roleplaying
burnt dragon
nyheheeheheh
burnt dragon
:(
mystic turtle
crazy shit going down in comfigcord atm
burnt dragon
:c
velvet raft
why do you hate Gappy dude, he's a good protagonist until the vitamin-c fight
velvet raft
a weirdo with almost no character development
burnt dragon
hell yeah
rare creek
holding shift and pressing f2 toggles the demoui
soft lynx
if only the announcers wouldn't sound like you're listening to some videos through your friends mic on discord
wispy shale
i get the novelty of custom announcers but a lot of the time the recordings just aren't as good as the regular administrator lines
soft lynx
it'd be a start if they were louder
grizzled chasm
My personal fav 3 are embargo, odyssey, and cachoeira
My least favorite is hadal, it’s too closed down for my taste. Big junction vibes
Applejack is cool for people that like ctf but I get bored easily on ctf maps
Anyone else think Megaton is sniper haven? It’s even more sniper-coded than harvest
wispy shale
Megaton is sniper hell a lot of the time, like harvest
Big sniper sightlines are one of my least favourite attributes any map can have
Just worsens the fact that snipers inherently just aren't fun to play against
I do like the setting though
That whole vibe of peaceful-looking tropical islands with nuke tests being conducted fits right into that 60s-70s cold war theme that TF2 is so heavily tied into
I've seen a handful of people complain that it's too bright, but really I think embargo and overgrown are way more guilty of that than megaton, which is no worse than something like banana bay
I still need to play odyssey, it looks really good judging by the images
Funnily enough, my favourite newer maps have been the old-school feeling ones, like cashworks, emerge and camber, I think a lot of newer TF2 maps are going hard on custom assets and stuff, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I can't help but feel like there's some friction between them and a lot of the existing maps
grizzled chasm
I would love to play megaton with sniper disabled
spring kestrel
Funnily enough, my favourite newer maps have been the old-school feeling ones, l...
Cashworks is poorly designed but it's extremely fun because of that.
small sirenBOT
grizzled chasm
Also just to vent this out there but canaveral is also up there with hadal with canaveral being a boring map
Canaveral is cool with the huge rocket
But it’s a 5cp map that isn’t very dynamic or interesting to me
I really like overgrown on defense but I think on offense it’s really hard to push to last
wispy shale
I wish we got more variance in control point maps
Nearly all of them are 5cp, we don't often get other kinds
More 3cp maps like powerhouse would be nice, provided they can be made less stalematey
There's this VDC page for a type of control point map where the points are arranged in a circle, and they can be capped either clockwise or counter-clockwise, with the win going to whoever captures all of them first, so you always have two different directions to push, and any point could become last if your team is pushed back into it
But I have never seen a map like this, ever
This was discovered in 2009, by the way
tough locust
Funnily enough, my favourite newer maps have been the old-school feeling ones, l...
then again cashworks is old school that map is OLLDDDDDDD like 2008 old that's why it looks so OG . actually blew my mind when the creator decided to rework it 15 years later
wispy shale
yeah it's pretty nice
there's plenty of other old maps like it that would be a great fit for the game
tough locust
Cashworks is poorly designed but it's extremely fun because of that.
after the rework it's legitimately become one of the best payload maps imo, it doesn't just feel like blue team is rolling through the whole map until a shitty choke point at the last 10 feet, RED can basically win at any point in the map if they put up a good fight. can't say that about most payload maps
wispy shale
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=529340378&searchtext= i'd love to see a map like this added
like an old-school dustbowl/goldrush sort of aesthetic
high current
believe or not man but most people agree with this opinion
What’s your source for this? The handful of times I played the map people were complaining about it in text chat. I also don’t personally like it and we had a discussion here talking about how it feels like it missed the mark gameplay wise (things like health packs, geometry, routing, etc).
I think people pretty widely agree it’s a very cool map, it looks pretty (a bit over saturated imo), and has very neat mechanics and custom voice lines. But outside of that novelty the general opinion I’ve seen is that it plays very poorly.
Not quite as badly as hadal though.
Hadal’s routing is just some of the worst I’ve experienced personally. It feels like cp_junction and cp_steel had a baby. Everything is kinda jagged, criss-crossed, tight, and on top of eachother. The defense spawn also only has 1 resupply cabinet (that I’ve found) and it’s alllll the way at the back.
tough locust
even with the big yellow arrows and stuff I couldn't figure out where tf to go on hadal I kept getting turned around like an idiot
high current
One of the new payload maps I also felt like it had a couple weird spawns where it either pointed a slightly intuitive way for the rollout or it didn’t have the rollout arrow in direct line of sight of spawn. I can’t remember which it was but my vague recollection of color pallet leads me to want to say embargo. But could have been odyssey. Overall I like odyssey though if it was that map.
tough locust
it looks rlly pretty though and the actual battle areas play pretty well
high current
Hadal is the first time in a long time I’ve gotten lost on a map.
tough locust
cachiocera< cachoeira has a horrible spawn room though. literally my entire team ran straight into the corner like 5 times before realizing that you have to spawn, exit the door and rotate 160 degrees to the right to get anywhere
high current
Yeh spawn rooms are like teleporter exits, if they’re facing the wrong direction it’s super disorienting and can ruin a map. I don’t under stand why it’s like that either, there is a lot of dead space outside of spawn to allow you to rotate it.
Cachiocera to me feels like a good late-stage in-development map. I like the core ideas and the central play areas. But there are some things like spawn room layout, geometry, and pack placement that feel like it needed a bit longer in play testing to me. I don’t think it needs any major reworks though, maybe rotating some side ramp rooms or spawn room, but it has the space for it.
I feel like it could get an update or two and play pretty well.
I also like that its name is a reference to Capoeira. Kind of an obscure reference for most people and I guarantee it’s going to be mispronounced. But it’s a cool Brazilian culture thing.
Though the addition of the “ch” sound is tricky.
spring kestrel
after the rework it's legitimately become one of the best payload maps imo, it d...
I think the first point where there's no flank is atrocious but it never really stops being fun
summer steeple
have you played cashworks since the summer update?
just curious idk what they've changed yet
i just know it was a pretty big rework
glass musk
What’s your source for this? The handful of times I played the map people were c...
people like to say a map is bad when they're losing
I've seen far more people say it's good compared to those saying it's bad and most of my friends also like it, at least in game chat
it just depends on the game ig
as long as it's balanced (which isn't that uncommon), then it's good since most teams are around the same skill level
radiant merlin
can someone check if the vertical bar shows with tf2build.ttf?
tough locust
just curious idk what they've changed yet
don't have enough words to explain the changes it's wayyyy different the third point especially
radiant merlin
can someone check if the vertical bar shows with tf2build.ttf?
???
summer steeple
???
i didn't check in game but in libreoffice it does
idk if they fallback on a default font if a character is missing
radiant merlin
could you send me a copy of your tf2build?
summer steeple
i mean its just the one from the game
radiant merlin
just in case
radiant merlin
words cannot describe how much confused i am right now
wtf
i reinstalled it again and now it appears
summer steeple
huh???
yeah and i tossed it into a font editor and it does have that character
oh thats cool i had no clue tf2build supported cyrillic characters
i guess i hadn't thought about it before
I knew that some other character sets used different fonts
THEY SUPPORT THE TRADEMARK CHARACTER HELL YEAH
radiant merlin
it could be better https://github.com/jakadak/TF2-extended-fonts?tab=readme-ov-file
glass musk
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=529340378&searchtext= i'd...
looks nice
summer steeple
it could be better https://github.com/jakadak/TF2-extended-fonts?tab=readme-ov-f...
yeah absolutely
but i had no clue they even put in that little bit of effort
but thats cool that someone is working on expanding the font
wild grove
don't have enough words to explain the changes it's wayyyy different the third p...
you should try enclosure again too, it got a similar treatment
tough locust
you should try enclosure again too, it got a similar treatment
oooh I'll check it out I haven't played enclosure in so long idk if I'll be able to tell a difference. for some reason you can queue into every payload map and somehow never get enclosure. maybe played it like 10 times since it released
spring kestrel
have you played cashworks since the summer update?
Stuff changed?
summer steeple
massive rework
spring kestrel
massive rework
Oh damn
summer steeple
enclosure also got a more minor rework
spring kestrel
I'm currently at a funk camp (four weeks of Russian) so no experiencing the new stuff until afterwards
But goh damn
That's weird
summer steeple
I mean it makes sense
after being a community map for like
over a decade
getting into the game really gives you a lot of feedback (and also motivation)
plus valve seemingly held onto a TON of changes for this update
for no real reason
iirc the missing textures on brew have been fixed since like... literally last year
but valve only pushed that update for this summer
unborn pecan
massive rework
nice
velvet raft
does anybody here like Toonhud?
jagged pawn
I did for a while until I realized that professional artists are better at making things look good than I am lol
eternal haven
does anybody here like Toonhud?
No
velvet raft
No
"Congratulations! The simple fact that you're standing here listening to me means you've made a glorious contribution to science."
"As founder and CEO of Aperture Science, I thank you for your participation and hope we can count on you for another round of tests."
eternal haven
spring kestrel
does anybody here like Toonhud?
I think it's fine but not really that special. Plus if you're willing to look or make your own there are superior options.
rare creek
high uality h265 version!!!:
radiant merlin
Has anyone tried the new recording feature in tf2?
soft lynx
Has anyone tried the new recording feature in tf2?
seems to be pretty decent. detects capture points/kills and probably some other things
doesn't seem to be that resource intensive either + it's quite customisable
wild grove
died in 2015, born in 2024, welcome back Replays
next nymph
died in 2015, born in 2024, welcome back Replays
@potent wolf is this true
potent wolf
<@394179512788844544> is this true
yeah
next nymph
cool
languid haven
high uality h265 version!!!:
is thiss supposed to be a single frame? maybe hvec is broken on vencord
eternal haven
Astolfo why are you playing cgso in tf2
fleet kite
is thiss supposed to be a single frame? maybe hvec is broken on vencord
On default discord I also see a single frame with a progress bar
languid haven
Astolfo why are you playing cgso in tf2
I think someone made a vscript mod that was just COD sniping in TF2. Looked cool.
summer steeple
(its the same person)
eternal haven
have you played cashworks since the summer update?
Wow they absolutely ruined it
or not ruined but it's like a completely new map, barely comparable to the old version at all
it feels like it's been dumbed down to make it easier for bad players
jade scroll
Does anyone have an updated list of custom viewmodel animation mods? I was using a ton in the past but they broke in 64bit and I had to gut them
unborn pecan
mine still worked after the update
jade scroll
I was using a mix of I think paysus and kylul anims and one thing i noticed was a floating sapper on the hud and class selection when playing heavy
rare creek
is thiss supposed to be a single frame? maybe hvec is broken on vencord
im on default discord and it's working fine for me
rare creek
it seems to work fine on vesktop too
glass musk
laggy ass video
languid haven
Maybe hvec encoder had an update
sterile ferry
is there a way to get lighting=low without blocky lighting
kind falcon
is there a way to get lighting=low without blocky lighting
../Team Fortress 2/tf/cfg/overrides/autoexec.cfg:
mat_filterlightmaps 1
sterile ferry
would there be any difference between low with that and just lighting=medium
kind falcon
a litel
kind falcon
../Team Fortress 2/tf/cfg/overrides/autoexec.cfg:
`mat_filterlightmaps 1`
or u could do alias lightmaps_override
stuck locust
tough locust
Does anyone have an updated list of custom viewmodel animation mods? I was usin...
they should all work as long as they were made at least after gun mettle in 2015, what are u using to load the animations
drowsy marlin
is casual mode not working for you guys?
it kicks me out of the queue after a few seconds
potent wolf
I've had that happen to me, iirc i just restarted steam and it fixed itself
potent wolf
orchid sorrel
is casual mode not working for you guys?
currently happening to me to
the queue window goes away the second i get a game
potent wolf
oh yeah its happening for me too now
orchid sorrel
at least, I think thats whats happening
i hear the game found sound, and then nothing happens
potent wolf
gc is dead ig
drowsy marlin
so it looks like the casual servers are the issue? it's not on my end?
potent wolf
yeah
livid urchin
it's happening for everyone
drowsy marlin
yeah even on my steam deck I can't get a game on TF2
wild grove
the tf matchmaker must be down
fleet kite
#tf2-quickplay: We're not dying, we're going to live forever!
small sirenBOT
mystic turtle
is the old team fortress "valve" finally breaking down?
radiant merlin
LOL
jagged pawn
LOL
fleet kite
It reminds me of some of those item server messages with the same vibe
heavy solarBOT
@fleet kite has leveled up! (12 ➜ 13)
fleet kite
Who cares about this, seriously
velvet raft
Who cares about this, seriously
what number does it say in the level up screen?
languid haven
Never seem that happen in system chat lol
wild grove
Well embargo got a sizable update, now I gotta check it again.
jagged pawn
still mid
rare creek
IT HAPPENED AGAIN
next nymph
wallhacks exposed
potent wolf
wallhacks exposed
get good, get fiendhook
languid haven
hey anyone know what's up with steam personal stats on tf2 casual matches? there's seemingly random ones like " win reason: 1" but i have no idea what any of these mean. there's also an entire catagory for a medal of each type like damage and support for example.
wtf there's one with "win reason 12" wtf does any of this mean?
oh wtf valve
potent wolf
wtf there's one with "win reason 12" wtf does any of this mean?
what map was it on?
languid haven
what map was it on?
that's the one thing it doesn't log
potent wolf
enum {
WINREASON_NONE =0,
WINREASON_ALL_POINTS_CAPTURED,
WINREASON_OPPONENTS_DEAD,
WINREASON_FLAG_CAPTURE_LIMIT,
WINREASON_DEFEND_UNTIL_TIME_LIMIT,
WINREASON_STALEMATE,
WINREASON_TIMELIMIT,
WINREASON_WINLIMIT,
WINREASON_WINDIFFLIMIT,
#if defined(TF_CLIENT_DLL) || defined(TF_DLL)
WINREASON_RD_REACTOR_CAPTURED,
WINREASON_RD_CORES_COLLECTED,
WINREASON_RD_REACTOR_RETURNED,
WINREASON_PD_POINTS,
WINREASON_SCORED,
WINREASON_STOPWATCH_WATCHING_ROUNDS,
WINREASON_STOPWATCH_WATCHING_FINAL_ROUND,
WINREASON_STOPWATCH_PLAYING_ROUNDS,
#endif
};
I think it might be using this enum, so 12 would be WINREASON_PD_POINTS
potent wolf
I have a match with win reason 12, and the map index maps to pd_atom_smash
so probably
languid haven
it doesn't seem to be for players at all so why do they have this?
small sirenBOT
languid haven
if it isn't easily readable it seems more for keeping track but why? it's casual, maybe for bot checking it makes sense but i doubt this is here for bot checking originally.
potent wolf
does steam provide any of this data in an easily downloadable package
kind falcon
```
enum {
WINREASON_NONE =0,
WINREASON_ALL_POINTS_CAPTURED,
WINREAS...
why is it on an ifdef
potent wolf
🤷♀️
languid haven
judging by this button, probably not
potent wolf
time to scrape the api
potent wolf
time to scrape the api
apparently the first map i played on was cp_process_final
left sand
why is it on an ifdef
because its generic multiplayer code except for the last ones
potent wolf
oh right its not in the tf folder
eternal haven
What do you guys use for local code search?
potent wolf
just ripgrep
eternal haven
Yeah that works but I wish there was something faster
that accepts regex
like github code search but local
left sand
sourcegraph
eternal haven
Honestly I don't even understand how github code search works
How can they possibly give you results for all of github that fast
with regex support
potent wolf
eternal haven
linux user
potent wolf
linux user
yep
broken haven
https://github.blog/engineering/the-technology-behind-githubs-new-code-search/
wheres the update that adds a big red button to download
orchid sorrel
you mean like a different map?
wild grove
why does casual sometimes join me to another game?
classic casual, it's because you get loaded in right as they switch to another map.
glass musk
you mean like a different map?
same map
but I'm not in a queue
at least visually
it just happened again
I joined a game and it found a new game a few minutes later
kind falcon
u have a virus
wild grove
so this what they were talking about with the visual glitches fix that was done a bit later?
tough locust
apparently the first map i played on was cp_process_final
if only there was some way to get to the bottom without having to scroll through 12 years of matches
potent wolf
if only there was some way to get to the bottom without having to scroll through...
I wrote a script to scrape the site lol
kind falcon
I wrote a script to scrape the site lol
erm link?
potent wolf
erm link?
paste this
import urllib3
import time
import sys
API_ENDPOINT = "https://steamcommunity.com/id/<username>/gcpd/440?ajax=1&tab=playermatchhistory"
cookie = "PUT YOUR ENTIRE steamcommunity.com COOKIE HEADER FROM YOUR BROWSER IN HERE"
current_continue_token = None
while True:
api_endpoint = API_ENDPOINT
if current_continue_token != None:
api_endpoint = API_ENDPOINT + f"&continue_token={current_continue_token}"
resp = urllib3.request(
"GET",
api_endpoint,
headers={
"Cookie": cookie,
"User-Agent": "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0"
}
)
json = resp.json()
print(api_endpoint, file = sys.stderr)
print(resp.data.decode("utf-8"))
if json["success"] != True:
print("FAILFAILFAIL", file = sys.stderr)
time.sleep(30)
continue
try:
current_continue_token = json["continue_token"]
except:
break
if current_continue_token == None:
break
time.sleep(1)
steamhappy
fleet kite
Paste this:
sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-r00t
To clean useless french language packs from your Linux desktop or server
eternal haven
So true bro
mystic turtle
Paste this:
```
sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-r00t
```
To clean useless french lan...
lmfao, the no preserve root option cracked me up
potent wolf
lmfao, the no preserve root option cracked me up
if you don't include that, it'll keep around some files for some reason
small sirenBOT
formal dew
what's the modal map
potent wolf
?
formal dew
If you scraped your steam data which map is the statistical mode
For your account
to replay, apologies for not being clear
potent wolf
I haven't written anything to parse the actual data yet
potent wolf
yeah i know, i wrote that before I actually knew how the data was formatted
eternal haven
also its kind of annoying they give html tables
eternal haven
How many casual games do you guys have
I have like 30k
thought it would be less I dont play very much
potent wolf
2870, apparently
kind falcon
I have like 30k
How
eternal haven
Oh I was being an idiot
I just opened the html in my browser and it said 30k nodes hidden in devtools
but I overlooked the line breaks
I have like 7k games actually
potent wolf
grep -o 'Connection Time' lol.html | wc -l
small sirenBOT
spare obsidian
good job you crashed steam
kind falcon
paste this
```
import urllib3
import time
import sys
API_ENDPOINT = "https://st...
you should now make a method to grabbing the cookies off steam client public
or css injection
smile
or js injection
smile
js
fleet kite
if you don't include that, it'll keep around some files for some reason
Pretty sure it just straight up doesn't let you execute it
rare creek
please dont use linxu
potent wolf
why not
rare creek
it sucks
potent wolf
why does it suck
rare creek
insecure and unstable cant even run nvidia properly
kind falcon
paste this
```
import urllib3
import time
import sys
API_ENDPOINT = "https://st...
import urllib3
resp = urllib3.request("GET", "https://httpbin.org/robots.txt")
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: 'module' object is not callable
urllib3 is very good and cool
potent wolf
wtf?
potent wolf
insecure and unstable cant even run nvidia properly
actually...
how is linux more insecure?
potent wolf
> import urllib3
> >>> resp = urllib3.request("GET", "https://httpbin.org/robots...
works on my machine
eternal haven
everything sucks
True
eternal haven
to version 2
kind falcon
kewl
rare creek
how is linux more insecure?
cant run vanguard
potent wolf
what???
kind falcon
cant run vanguard
valorant issue
potent wolf
what does that have to do with security??
potent wolf
just play good games
kind falcon
even elden ring runs on linux
with online functionality
fleet kite
I will say I gave up on Linux gaming just because I couldn't get comparable performance in most games. That and discord screen sharing.. which btw is a deliberately disabled feature in chrome
Tbf I use a laptop so compatibility is worse for graphics drivers anyway
potent wolf
I will say I gave up on Linux gaming just because I couldn't get comparable perf...
the reason discord screen sharing doesn't work is specifically because they don't use the browser screensharing api
they have their own custom module
potent wolf
lmfao
potent wolf
🥚
potent wolf
What do you mean by that
PLZNOHACK
unborn pecan
🥚
potent wolf
I wonder what it does...
unborn pecan
eggs you
eternal haven
I wonder if it's possible to stream in good quality over discord or if they limit it server side
potent wolf
It isn't limited
unborn pecan
potent wolf
afaik
potent wolf
there are plugins to do it
eternal haven
eg. when your stream quality goes to shit it's because they ask you to encode at a lower bitrate
but you can ignore that
unborn pecan
yes
eternal haven
but I wonder if they will actually transport it
eternal haven
I found someone who reimplemented their custom protocol and tried using my own encoded video with it and it like worked for a bit and then would stop working
unborn pecan
you gotta really hit it with passion
next nymph
im trying
eternal haven
I wonder if they re encode the streams server side
one would hope not but with how trash the quality always is maybe they do
unborn pecan
I don't think they got the money to do that
eternal haven
I mean they have the money to transport the streams and to pay for exabytes of storage
I'm sure a little encoding isn't the end of the world
If they were tight on money you wouldn't think they'd bother decrypting and inspecting voice/video traffic
kind falcon
❓
eternal haven
I would really like to stream a constant bitrate encode direct from OBS over discord
and have it play back consistently for people instead of having awful seeming frame pacing and weird speed ups and slow downs like discord streams usually do
not sure if it's technically possible to pull off or not
left sand
just use this server
eternal haven
It still looks bad
discord streams with identical quality to twitch streams would be great
but yeah not even sure if it's possible with discord's packetization protocol and transport
rare creek
discord streams with identical quality to twitch streams would be great
have you ever seen a twitch stream?
eternal haven
8 mbps h264 with no reencoding and perfect playback beats what discord streams look like
it's a much better viewing experience even if the bitrate or codec aren't necessarily ideal
rare creek
there is no way that twitch streams are 8mbps
summer steeple
they're not i don't think
rare creek
they are like a half a megabit at most
eternal haven
discord streams are always lagging or playing back irregularly or at some randomly low bitrate because your client can be asked to encode at whatever bitrate discord wants
eternal haven
there is no way that twitch streams are 8mbps
Twitch gives you 8.5 mbps and they don't re-encode your video
you can use that bitrate however you like
a lot of people only use 6 mbps of it
cursive peak
I did Twitch streaming 720p60fps 6mbps.
eternal haven
1080p 120fps 8.5 mbps with a slower encoding preset is passable
it's not great but it's still much nicer than watching a discord stream
Here's as many of the top streams under the tf2 category by bitrate as will fit into a discord message
rmadoka 8 viewers 1920x1080 8441k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
cruppz 19 viewers 1920x1080 8195k 120fps AVC High Level 5.1
jukesy1920 1 viewers 1920x1080 7155k 30fps AVC High Level 4.0
borntorule 7 viewers 1920x1080 6900k 30fps AVC High Level 4.0
firesidecasts 30 viewers 1920x1080 6804k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
c_odys 2 viewers 1920x1080 6760k 60fps avc1.64042a
tjoseffurr 1 viewers 1920x1080 6647k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
fehstove 27 viewers 1920x1080 6526k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
butchersevenone 1 viewers 1920x1080 6511k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
shroomaah 4 viewers 1920x1080 6495k 60fps AVC Constrained Main Level 4.2
twinkie_hipcat 4 viewers 1920x1080 6490k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
mrxlongshot 2 viewers 1280x720 6431k 59fps AVC High Level 3.2
nacl_tf2 1 viewers 1920x1080 6423k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
sl4nty 5 viewers 1920x1080 6422k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
toigorosas 6 viewers 960x540 6421k 60fps avc1.64042a
jayzenko 5 viewers 1920x1080 6418k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
winkidd 7 viewers 1920x1080 6409k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2
tbplaysgames1998 2 viewers 1920x1080 6404k 60fps AVC High Level 4.2```Only 2 ppl are using the full bitrate allotted to them
small sirenBOT
eternal haven
One guy is going over and his stream is being re-encoded by twitch and viewers can't watch his original stream
radiant merlin
huh?
fleet kite
Easy to predict.
heavy solarBOT
@fleet kite has earned the Level 1 noob role!
grim parcel
paste this
```
import urllib3
import time
import sys
API_ENDPOINT = "https://st...
now rewrite it in rust
grim parcel
how is linux more insecure?
grim parcel
should I learn rust
yeah it's fun
grim parcel
whenever I try to read rust code my brain explodes
potent wolf
<https://0pointer.de/blog/brave-new-trusted-boot-world.html>
I wasnt asking you, now was I
also i use chromeos so
||not.||
potent wolf
I can actually read this :(
left sand
zig > rust
fleet kite
Real men use a magnetized needle, guys
summer steeple
oh shit
i thought it was the 27th
just gotta beat 21 missions in like a couple hours
surely this is possible :)
rare creek
zig > rust
what is ur favorite safe programming lanuggae
left sand
zig or c++ with guidelines
rare creek
but arent those not safe
left sand
theyre safer than rust
rare creek
I think im just going to stick to writing everything in java bytecode sorry
rare creek
zig or c++ with guidelines
Zig doesnt have cargo mommy what's the point in learning it
potent wolf
theyre safer than rust
can you elaborate on this?
potent wolf
:(
left sand
i just hate rust because its woke
rare creek
can you elaborate on this?
it doesnt have an unsafe keyword
potent wolf
i just hate rust because its woke
i think i need to go to bed
rare creek
i just hate rust because its woke
but u hate sleeping so u r also woke
left sand
mhm
orchid sorrel
i thought it was the 27th
its been extended to aug 1 because of demand
orchid sorrel
kind falcon
i just hate rust because its woke
summer steeple
its been extended to aug 1 because of demand
well the main page still says 25th
just btw
orchid sorrel
ya i told brain
orchid sorrel
rare creek
https://tenor.com/view/paradox-femboy-hot-cute-thighs-gif-25191118
what is paradox
and where do i find these people
kind falcon
and where do i find these people
im those people
rare creek
im those people
fleet kite
its been extended to aug 1 because of demand
Thank god, I got to take a flight and I obviously can't play on the plane
The tank medal is cool and I want that at least. Even though I won't wear it.
slender nexus
https://tenor.com/view/paradox-femboy-hot-cute-thighs-gif-25191118
what is paradox and where can I get it
unborn pecan
so
I just played tf2
I was top scoring in a casual pub, and this guy named uh uh complained that I died to a person with 17 health
Mind you, I had like a 40:10 KD
and he had a 12:8 as trolldier
so I tell him
and he's like, "Why you so defensive"
just over and over
then called me an n word
and was kicked immeaditely
look in his comments
funniest part
radiant merlin
report him, the report system now works
kind falcon
report him, the report system now works <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
u dont get banned for screaming racial slurs .. or do u
unborn pecan
report him, the report system now works <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
oh fr
i should do that
velvet raft
report him, the report system now works <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
i will report you
orchid sorrel
He called (im assuming) you an inbred then closed his comments
orchid sorrel
Tru
orchid sorrel
Idk
turbid hill
u dont get banned for screaming racial slurs .. or do u
There's a solid overlap between those people and cheaters at the very least
turbid hill
Hello agitation-robot-ChatGPT6-dog-pfp-person
kind falcon
Hello agitation-robot-ChatGPT6-dog-pfp-person
That’s rude.
turbid hill
Hi lowrule
kind falcon
Hi lowrule
turbid hill
hidden gyro
high current
u dont get banned for screaming racial slurs .. or do u
Pretty sure you can be. It’s a different type of ban and I could be wrong. But it doesn’t hurt, not like Valve blindly trusts reports and you’ll get the guy banned on accident.
radiant merlin
no, he's from Spain
Ser yo español? Ser imposible
grim parcel
should i give it a try?
it’s cool
feels more like c
and i think it could have a big future in embedded stuff with how you can just pull out the allocator (and how allocation works in general)
i wouldn’t say it’s better than rust, but it’s clear stuff like no_std was already in mind when they were making zig
other than that? meh
ecosystem really sucks, so does documentation, and there aren’t many more objective benefits that i’m aware of
it’s killing blow though is how shit it’s own tooling is
frosty coral
Pretty sure you can be. It’s a different type of ban and I could be wrong. But i...
You can get gamebanned for illegal activity (e.g. doxxing, cp). I've seen nothing to suggest you can get gamebanned for racial slurs.
crisp cedar
valve doesnt do that kind of thing
glass musk
valve doesnt do that kind of thing
I thought someone got gamebanned for CP
high current
They meant game banning for racial slurs
paper sluice
i can excuse racism but i draw the line at doxxing
glass musk
I think everyone does
high current
I don’t think I excuse racism tbh
cursive peak
I don't think everyone draws the line at doxxing. Look at how many nazis have had their faces and names matched with their actions over the last like decade.
Or even look at that one racist Karen who called the cops on that black guy for walking in the park and got fired after the Internet found out where she worked and sent the video to them.
high current
Eh. There’s doxxing and there’s vigilantism. Both are illegal and can get out of hand really quickly, one is purely shitty and the other is occasionally okay.
high current
Or even look at that one racist Karen who called the cops on that black guy for ...
Meanwhile my neighbor and his wife assaulted a black guy because his kids were playing in our Culdesac (they got out of the road for my neighbor’s car). Victim reported it to police, the trial was delayed in ~3 month increments for 2 years, then the charge was dropped because by the 3rd new district attorney the level of detail lost in the prosecution made charging them hopeless.
Reported it and sent the footage to the IT company my neighbor works for that prides itself on “neighborly conduct” and dude still works there making crazy money.
Southern US fucking sucks dude.
left sand
midnight cape
https://gamebanana.com/mods/530974
does it fix the scaling on 4k resolution? (really anything larger than 1080p)
midnight cape
I did edit sourceschemebase.res in the past and I could make the fonts bigger
unfortunately the fields in tables/buttons/etc. didn't keep up so the text got cut off at certain font size
and I wasn't about to put in the effort to rewrite the whole thing
left sand
theyre limited to 127 size so afaik you cant scale to 4k
rare creek
that's a font issue
i think they mean how vgui1 isnt proportional at all
it's actually really hard to read the ui on 4k idk why they dont just make vgui1 proportional i think valve might be stuopdi
midnight cape
yea, what niterux said
I just want the console and server browser to be legible without squinting. that font size isn't going to hit 127 for sure
but now I wonder what other compiled limits that's going to hit
rare creek
my fork of xhud adjusted every vgui menu to scale better with 4k but it's still too small because some limits cant really be removed
rare creek
i think they mean how vgui1 isnt proportional at all
it scales in half life 1'
they actually went backwards in source
source worse than goldsource for 4k
crisp cedar
it scales in half life 1'
isnt this the case since the anniversary update
midnight cape
the .res files have directives (yres) to have different sizes for different resolutions, valve just hasn't written the config for resolutions beyond what was common back in the day
rare creek
isnt this the case since the anniversary update
i think the hud didnt scale before the anniversary update but the menus still did, i dont remember tho
crisp cedar
rare creek
the .res files have directives (yres) to have different sizes for different reso...
well vgui1 cant scale at all, only fonts have yres, with vgui2 when you remove yres from fonts they automatically scale (they become "proportional") but vgui1 fonts dont scale without yres, and the vgui1 menus dont scale at all
midnight cape
ah fair, didn't know that
eternal haven
that's a font issue
Aren't the fonts like the one thing that you can change the size of
I think the issue is all the buttons and menus and lists and stuff
Never really looked into it though
rare creek
in those small ass menus you're never going to hit the limit at just 4k
you only hit the limits in big ass health and ammo numbers
left sand
ah ok
rare creek
cant wait for 8k to become the standard and all source engine games become basically completely unplayable good forward thinking there valve
left sand
source 2 supports it
high current
In fairness if you told someone in 2005, or whenever source engine came out, that in 2025 that 8k screens would be reasonably foreseeable, they would have had an aneurysm.
Even more so for people in 1997 or whenever quake came out.
high current
you only hit the limits in big ass health and ammo numbers
Yeh at 1440p the proportional font size limit is 42, at 4k I think it’s 28.
My guess is the vgui stuff is like size 8-12. If it were to use proportional fonts.
28 isn’t unforeseeably large for main menu elements, for example. I think Xhud uses 26, not because of 4k, just because it looks good. Peachhud I think uses 30 on its main menu iirc.
It’d probably be one of the top things I’d look forward to in a source 2 port.
rare creek
if tf2 was ported to source 2 there would be no mods
tough locust
i think amphud uses a custom source scheme that makes vgui 1 stuff a bit bigger, the only reason I don't use that hud is bc everything feels overscaled
eternal haven
Didnt know tf2 had any vgui 1
high current
Basically anything that looks like it’s straight out of the 90s, is straight out of the 90s. IE it’s literally in the hl2 folder (and probably just taken from hl2) instead of the tf folder
eternal haven
Isn't all of it vgui2
high current
Idk if vgui 2 supports drag+drop panels tbh. Like console or server browser for examples of drag+drop windows.
It could, I just don’t know of any example.
sterile ferry
anyone know what console commands the video settings correspond to
particularly shader detail
eternal haven
shader detail is mat_reducefillrate
velvet raft
Ser yo español? Ser imposible
de dónde sos?
radiant merlin
peru
jagged pawn
I know this isn't practical but it's very funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7mmMApr24w
wispy shale
i can foresee tryhard demos frantically switching between pipes and stickies for the 0.5 second increase in damage output (it barely matters because they can't aim their pipes anyway)
kind falcon
single fire particle