#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year
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I LOVE YOU HAIKU BOT
you can ask it how many syllables are in a word or message
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This has to be intentional
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ermmmmm,,. . not MY faujlt thatt uickplay put me on there
I forgot they had a watermark
i had it disabled in my xhud fork at some point but i dont use that anymore
you can disable those big text overlays by editing your hud
*you can disable
those big text overlays by
editing your hud*
it's some panel named hudmessage iirc
but it kind of sucks if you play mge since they are the same panel
if you played enough, you prolly have enough credits, the shop has a option to disable it by buying the right for idk how much, unless they took that down.
15000 credits đ
I got that from playing on the trade servers a lot
what about trade servers?
I played on em a lot to get the disable logo option overtime.
Sure it is. A good mix of fodder to stomp and higher skill players to provide a challenge seems about just right.
I used to enjoy it but I got bored of it
Even uncletopia's worst players at the very least understand enough about the game to make for compelling fights
I don't play enough of TF2 anymore to really need mindless stuff
been on skial for too long
3H of TF2 would have me genuinely tired lmao
I used to play like 7 or 8 hours/night.
I will overdose on sugar to overdose on TF2
me, I used to play a lot more
now I guess I've cut back to like, 3-4 h if I got the time
honestly I play for longer if friends invite me.
will you be using the overdose in tf2?
since the game gets stale (and ofc this discounts me outright ragequitting if I get constant losses in Casual)
which happens quite a fair bit
I could play for a long time with friends
that's nice, TF2 is a lot better with friends
I like don't even play tf2 anymore without friends
The only friend I've got to play TF2 struggles to play for long though, so I end up having longer seshs by myself
When I was 11 or 12, I could play for an entire day
Crusader's crossbow is too good
cringeeeeeee
I'd rather die if I overextend my position than not having the ability to save some peeps in clutch situations
"Firepower" be damned
I haven't seen anyone use syringe guns in a while actually
I mean, I only use syringes if I'm like, not doing well as med
which usually translates to healing enemy spies and missing crossbow bolts + overextending and dropping uber
tf2 players are little bugs CONFIRMED
also what happened I thought like years ago dane's twitter got suspended and he was like "you know what this is a good thing" and decided not to contest it
fiend im in your walls
look behind you
i won't
look behind you and you'll see it yourself
no thanks
im not entirely buying that cl_resend controls how fast you check a2s server s
how do you do that
it seems to refer to how fast the retry command sends the 4 retries out
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It doesn't?
at least not directly
though the first step of connecting to a server is doing an a2s challenge thing
the same kind of challenge you have to do for a2s_info/players/rules
but idk if that matters
if the challenge is successful, the challenge number should be able to be reused
i mean like when you select auto join when player slot is empy
people kept sayuing it controllet that speed and lowering cl_resend would let you get into servers before other players
I think cl_resend would only matter if the connection process fails to start for some reason
it should have absolutely no bearing on the frequency your client queries the server prior to connecting to it
yesd
I mean it can't necessarily hurt to lower it
i think it can
it's not impossible for your connection process to fail and have to try again
you only get 4 reconnects and if it failed to connect because your network was only down for like 20 seconds then cl_resend 7 would work but cl_resend 1.5 would fail
I guess
also it's maybe possible you could get a2s ratelimited if you did 4 challenge requests back to back
but I doubt that
i think ugc has a2s ratelimits
well all source engine servers have ratelimiting by default
some go above and beyond by tightening the defaults even further
or using a custom caching solution for it and perhaps applying their own ratelimiting to that
I thought 8ms was the best possible ping on valve servers
5ms is best
Yeah 5 ms in scoreboard is the best seemingly
1ms is possible
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cmdrate cringe
yup
cmdrate 9999999?
when I was 12 I would play TF2 from 10am to like 3am
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I actually screamed out loud when i got this backstab i dont think ive ever landed a single trickstab in my 500 hours of spy this might be my first one i think
those particles look nice but does it decrease fps?
I think only the teleporter particles decrease fps i think the rest increase it
just cheat bro
Nice
what would tf2 look like today if they didn't patch out bhopping
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quake like gameplay?
What would tf2 look like today if it had tripping
tf2 if it was black or asian
Open fortress
Probably not absurdly different. Youâd get some interesting rocket jump tech for maintaining velocity, like rocket-less skip jumps. But for general movement itâd probably be too inconsistent with sever tick rate to go TOO crazy with. Itâd probably be comparable with the older CSs where you could bhop but eventually itâd die. Unless they added auto hop like quake.
Maybe they wouldnât have added the change where all mediguns give medic scout speed when healing a scout. Even with current movement Shade was famous for being able to not hold back scouts on his team, which is one of the reasons heâs regarded as the best medic ever. If bhopping was a notable mechanic then itâd probably be one of the things medic mains would specialize in.
It would make movement buffing items even more dominant in the meta. As apparently air strafe control is related to a classâs current movement speed. So gaining like 15% movement speed, or whatever GRU or Power Jack give, would be able to snowball into even more speed with more aggressive bhops.
didnt they give medic that to nerf the quick fix
What are you doing to your mic
i was bhopping and i got hurt
I donât think so? I donât think the quick fix was considered op. I donât think it was banned in comp at least. I assume it was done to speed up the game, but it was really just the biggest buff to scout or all time.
Thereâs probably some archaic patch note. Meet Your Match was when they tried open communication.
Pretty sure it was banned for the rocket jumping thing
Pretty sure it was meant to make scout ubers faster, not necessarily to nerf the quickfix. It was banned for a while, due to making the game slower/unfun
Might even still be banned or have been banned again
Huh, youâre right, ESEA had quick fix banned. I always forget just how strict their whitelist was. It was basically only meta weapons allowed.
Itâs definitely not banned any more. Because you can still die to traps which makes it useless on a lot of maps, if not all.
Wait it is banned? WTF⊠who decided that? Iâve literally only ever seen players talk about how hard youâre throwing if you equip it, at all levels of RGL
Valve trying to balance TF2 around that extremely strict list made quite a few weapons shitty
I donât think anyone has bothered to try equipping it to figure out that it was banned tbh
Never forget what they did to the gloves of running urgently...
I suspect it's because it helped medic move in and out much quicker, especially through explosive jumps with the aid of a soldier or demo
Honestly I think most the balance changes were fine. The sandman + cleaver nerf and ambassador nerf were bad. And the dr ânerfâ just made it even more aids to play against.
I thought ambassador was a silly concept to begin with, spy doesn't really need to headshot
Thank god the complete stun from the sandman is gone though
It died with it but it's okay
The issue is that rocket jumps and sticky jumps with quick fix are hard af to control, because you donât have the exact timing of when itâs going to go, so I donât really see it being hugely advantageous. Maybe demo quick fix Uber bombs could be crazy?
I've gotten it to work rather well in pubs myself so I imagine proper coordination would work a lot better?
I think if they kept the cleaver combo with the current sandman, it still would be fine. But as it stands the sandman is useless and the cleaver is bad. People run it at times in highlander but itâs still bad.
I wish they could find another way to make it good aside from completely stunning players
Iâve never gotten more than like single rocket/stick jumps to work with quick fix. I feel like if a team canât handle a medic pencil jumping without full invincibility, then they were going to lose anyway.
The slow is fine. Or it would be if you couldnât a-d spam to entirely negate it.
I think slow is alright
I still think it's kind of cheap in a sense
Like the Natasha
But arguably the skill necessary to hit the ball is much higher than it is to use the natasha
I wonder, what do people think of the ambassador now?
I never really looked into what the community felt, I just thought it'd be better to not have headshots in the first place
ambasador 150 dmg glitch
The ambassador is bad now. But spy mains still run it because it looks good in over-edited frag movies.
I find it way less reliable now yeah
Not worth the effort lol
IMO they should have gone a simpler route and had it do crits up to a certain distance, then bump down to mini crits at long range. The whole âit crits but it a affected by damage fall off, but then it minicrits and is affected by damage fall offâ just sounds like they couldnât figure out what to do and didnât know how to ctrl+z so they kept adding mechanics until it was bad.
It's still fun, but even smth like the enforcer has more uses than the Amby
I think at very close range, it's not that outrageous to give spy the opportunity to have a quick 102 damage at the expense of it needing a lot of skill to pull off reliably
nono... too op.. gunspy rises in rgl
And yeah I think a simple "can't headshot past this point" would've worked okay
Even stock. Stock was always the more reliable version of the amby, it does basically the same if not more dps compared to amby headshots, without the risk of going for harder targets. And that was the consensus pre-nerf
Stock is better
I find the l'étranger and stock to be the best to use nowadays?
Diamondback if you're a prick
The problem is, sigafoo played against max, an invite sniper who also played high level comp cs, and got rolled by max using the ambassador. So sigafoo personally campaigned to valve to nerf the ambassador
Diamond back has been an easier version of the diamond back since it was changed to give crits for playing the class. Iâm convinced it was an oversight in the balance changes.
Yeah I can't wrap my head as to why it escaped the nerfs
I think only because not many people use it
because u still have to backstab a person
Despite how objectively OP it is, no one uses it
and survive,
That's called playing spy
thats called playing spy in a pub
It was just the ambassadorâs ugly brother. Always has been, always will be.
Most people play in pubs so yeah
in hl you supposedly die after taking down your only target, medic
I guess they were only targetting comp for the balances yeah
but the nerfs are targeting comp!
Iâm convinced that the diamond back, and scorch shot / detonator splash damage dealing full after burn, are oversights in the balance passes. Thereâs no way anyone looked at all those and went âthese are funâ
Damn that's why the whole balancing around comp was silly ahah
Years later all we can do is look back and wonder "well how the hell did this make any sense" if you forgot that it was for comp reasons
Some weapons that were objectively easier to abuse got entirely skipped over
Because no one played them in comp
As spy you also go for the tele entrance because thatâs less defended and harder to replace, this nearly always kills the tele exit too. Thatâs two free crits pretty frequently. Also if you kill the sniper (huge pick in HL) you can often get away pretty freely.
And they killed my GRU which is rather annoying now that I've realised Heavy is really fun, minus the rollout part
You could easily turn a tele sap into a med pick
in pubs it's extremely easy to rack up crits
I think gru is fine now
I find the health drain a bit annoying
Like not something I actually wanna pay attention to enough to not use another melee and accept running for longer
In a sense I get it, in comp it was banned for a hella good reason
Itâs annoying, but it was so free to use before the change. And I think for what itâs meant to do, the change makes a lot of sense. I actually think itâs one of the better thought out changes they made.
It's definitely far from a stupid change
I'll give them that
It gave a proper tradeoff to a proper advantage
It was only banned in 6s because no one wanted heavy to mid. It wouldnât be op, it would just be unfun. It was still banned for probably a year or two after that change until b4nny basically single-handedly rewrote the RGL 6s whitelist.
Buffalo steak sandwhich was banned for the same reason. Despite being a literal throw
Yeah makes sense
I think it would've been a tiny bit better if Valve didn't try to balance for comp as much as they could've balanced for pubs
At the end of the day, 6v6 is still its own game, not extremely different, but it's different enough to not consider it the main TF2
The weapons that were balanced around "is it fun to play against or not" got the better nerfs it seems
there had been one balance change to diamondback (and that being the addition of crit charges for backstabbing people)
Pub play is gonna be hard to think around. There's so few assumptions you can make.
That's how they balanced weapons beforehand
Arguably they weren't very good at it
But given enough time, usually they found ways to narrow a weapon down to a good enough balance
It's too late to rewrite the past though ahah, I think the state of the game's rather okay
dead weapons are better than all of them being OP/too unfun to play against
Mobas seem like way more of a pain to balance ngl
Make the ball deal knockback on hit instead of stunning/slowing movement? Could make it fun to use on maps with environmental hazards and as a long range tool to deny captures.
Yes, the draining and regenerating health has always felt "un-TF2" to me, just really off. I wish they had found another way to give it a longer lasting downside. Same with the Eviction Notice.
Oh that'd be kinda fun
Scout is actually just throwing balls made of tungsten
You could make a banger sound for it
I love the heavy to snake mid we saw two seasons of invite ago
I love the sandman!
I got 1k kills on it for fun
That was accomplished through force a nature meatshots into the ball
im pretty sure it was at the time that the comp community was talking about the quick fix unban, and valve was actively seeking to rebalance weapons to cause unbans. they made a series of nerfs to the quick fix to make it more balanced for competitive play, lots of people in the community kept making suggestions about it. they removed its ability to cap during its uber, reduced its ubercharge rate, and made its speed mirroring ability non unique over months.
the complaints about the quick fix were that it made rollouts for medic faster, its ubercharge rate caused enemy medics to have to switch to it, especially since its uber was very strong, allowing people to cap points.
the competitive community was actively asking for the mirroring to be removed from the quick fix, the Uber charge rate to be removed or at least reduced, and its ability to capture points removed. they argued that it should just be a heal centered medigun only
valve directly addressed the last 2 balance points
Honestly it wasn't even that strong in its prime either
however, i think they felt mirroring was a very unique mechanic they didn't want to lose
so they gave medic it as a base ability so quick fix wouldnt be as strong comparatively
yes but the global ban list committee made it seem so back in the day lol
True
I think a lot of bans from that era revolved around just not wanting to risk the meta changing
"The meta must be pure" kind of thing, I think?
yup
Didn't they cite a particularly lengthy and stalematey Snakewater match for QF ban?
yup
the other reason would be, they would cite a theoretical or real anecdote about that weapon being annoying one time
like for scorch shot, rescue ranger and others
it was really funny imo to hear
I think scorch shot is still banned in highlander?
The old comp scene is really wacky to look back on
I'd say mobas are easier to balance
Players are a lot more receptive to slight changes and tweaks to elements of the game
Shooter players tend to care a lot more about their muscle memory and game feel, so even a slight tweak can result in well
I guess the meet your match balance backlash is probably the best example
A single bullet in the clip reduction can completely ruin a weapon for people
EU used to ban every unlock but Ubersaw and Kritzkrieg.
Or for a better example, just look at the helldivers 2 balance backlash lol
Kritzkrieg is one of very few weapons that I think is justifiable to ban though wtf
i really dont think this was true. "heavy to mid" was a huge meme but supposedly for the optimal comp being 2-2-1-1 scouts, soldiers, demo, med, it wasn't going to hold out to compromise your soldier or scout for an extra 250 health. but if it WAS ideal, then how could it have been a bad thing? unless the 6s meta was fake...
they were scared about what they saw in NA which was pocket using gunboats
That was rare back then. Shotgun Pocket was meta.
To be honest I don't understand heavy to mid fear in the first place
they were trying to hold the line imo
The meta classes are mainly flick classes
Pre-i46
oh i might be thinking about another time they banned the gunboats
Heavy is a tracker aim style, most comp players don't practice in that. Demomen somewhat do, but theirs is more predictive tracking which is a different skill still
scout pistol does
Fair point
but yes thats another thing, the meta was the way it was because of bias in who was playing, coaching comp and what they were good at and practicing
To be honest, I'd argue DF pyro has more potential becoming a meta stay than heavy ever would even if heavy-to-mid was real based on that bias alone
i found it funny that comp players demanded comp matchmaking have 6s class restrictions
but fire is annoying because you get a fire overlay on your screen and theres a sound effect and your character goes ahh im on fire
its the end of the world
so pyro must receive weapon bans
poweryack
Tbf the biggest complaint I hear with pyro is the DF is too weak in airblasting to deal with 6s
Which I kinda agree with
pyro should've been pocket...
SO TRUE
jungle inferno was a pretty blatant attempt at making pocket pyro a thing imo
didn't work obviously
but that looks like the goal
scout payro... wit jetparck
unfortunately airblast is so good that having a slightly worse one killed the dragon's fury
They really should remove that center of hitbox nerf that the DF got
Zero reason for it to exist
6s players still run stock even when they run full time pyro (which happened in invite a couple seasons ago, it was sick)
agree
they should...
no me
the reason they changed the radius so much was because it extended the range too much
ill be the balancer
they should have instead slightly reduced the radius and then added a flat distance check for range
then shorten the range instead of doing a shitty roundabout fix that ruins the weapon yeah lol
Mmmhm
huntsman crossbow. faster arrow, bigger projectile
if airblast was so good, why there's not a sequel to it?
DF had so many weird issues at release
I will never forget syringe medic being a true counter
Go into chokey tunnel, lying in ambush to kill your prey
Medic walks in
He has syringes
You're not allowed to play the game
Truly, demoknight reborn
What I had imagined the DF and jetpack being before launch was more like a Soldier who could set people on fire with his rockets.
And air control like Phara
Dumb check for collision meant that the DF would delete itself if it collided with any projectile
I don't remember that at all
yeah fair I probably hadn't unlocked yet
the jetback was obviously very toned down for release
but they were iteratively buffing it
too bad they stopped balancing the game
Dear Eric,
My name is Tf2Fan1997
Please let me balance game
Thank you
jungle inferno was the update of good ideas that needed a follow-up update (no blue moon was not enough)
so now none of it is really that useful because they couldn't iterate
except the banana I guess
the problem with blue moon though is it nerfed pyro into the ground again
I really hope some day they come back to it
But I doubt it
any second now... any second now..
Nuh uh

Summer update just 51 hours away
It came so fast
Just 51 hours away
it did go away :(
oh I see the issue, but it was gonna go away, it's just that someone left, and the timer was reset back.
Its still supposed to be this month right?
I have been way too deep into my own projects to pay attention to tf2 stuff
tbf we are not supposed to know that
people who are friends with map creators keep leaking that
I mean it helps build hype, so its whatever
yeah, guess so
when is the summer update
probably within a week or so
judging by previous dates
its like early-mid july
Whar
awesome
Isnt the script already completed?
y do they keep making summer cases the least populated ones
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it's gonna drop Wednesday at 4:30 EST hard read
yes!!!!
this is the worst tbh there's basically no way to know whether u hit the center of mass unless you read the damage text it feels so inconsistent
I wonder what they're gonna do for the update
I'm hyped for what bugs they're gonna fix
added 23 new hats
8 new shitty maps
no other changes
*added 23
new hats 8 new shitty maps
no other changes*
Okay but they have to include a patch note that's silly when you read it. Like the game thinking the player is Gordon Freeman
me too
Theoretically yes? I'll never be unhappy to have some degree of new content or a new reason to play tf2
But I'm not excited?
I'm excited for the prospect of playing tf2, I am not excited about anything else
i think everyone should be hyped because summer is always a great time
2023 was amazing
selbyen was a psyop
But I wasn't excited about anything else last year
vsh was cool
It was a good psyop
Didnt they add phoenix summer 2023?
yeah
That was an amazing addition. I love phoenix!
overwatch map

also has anyone capped last yet?
very often
But it feels fun to play on
its not a bad last point
But didnt someone from the tf team say this summer update wont be as large as last years?
fuck im a noob
what you consider large and what valve considers large might be different
*what you consider
large and what valve considers
large might be different*
summer 2023 added like 14 maps
There are enough "places" to be for each class to easily contribute
So you can get into a lot of fun 1v1s
ass
Did someone say that?
I dunno. Im talking out of my add
It's an annoying last point tho
Ass
Damn
On the 21st of February, 2024 I had the privilege of receiving a brief tour of Valve's headquarters in Bellevue, WA. While seeing the holy halls in which our favorite games were made was truly awe-inspiring, the real highlight of the tour was the conversation with Eric Smith, current de-facto...
Regardless I'll enjoy this update, regardless of what it is
I do wish they'd make balance changes though. Thatll freshen up the game a ton
The game is balanced impressively well
I wouldn't imagine changes would be received all that well at this point
Kill those three weapons and the game is epic
Oh and kunai is cringe too
And quick fix is the weakest medigun
And buff dragons fury airblast
You know what I would do the the dragons fury?
Airblast will cost 3 ammo instead of 5
Airblasts that reflect a projectile or extinguish a burning teammate wont have a repressurization penalty
That type of buff would make it the best flamethrower in the game
honestly i kind of think it already is the best one in the game
its DPS is good enough that I think having a weaker airblast is part of the tradeoff
maybe the ammo change is ok
Plus it has the longest range of all throwers
so u want it to have more airblasts than stock
Okay maybe 4 ammo cost
Doing the math last is the most vital part of the balancing process
still too good for a hungry fireball firing weapon
keep it at degreasers level
n quit fantasizing you quirky white boy
Racit
remove pyro
OH
Remove that stupid heavy nerf from 2014
Why does he deal zero damage after revving for a second
Cringe
I just want to see whats fixed this time
It's a long shot, but hopefully some broken animations
i guess that the only reason why they didn't fix it yet is because they saw there's a plugin that fixes it and said "well community fixed it already so why spend time on it?"
Why not make the community fix an official part of the game?
Doesn't valve do that already?
Yes but not a lot of people know how to properly do it.
As in send the fix
For one, steam workshop is insta deatg, do not post em there, it's very unlikely they'll implement anything there.
It's either email for increased chance or github.
then in that email, you need to go step by step how to replicate said fix, also make sure that the subject is about the community fix.
it is a sourcemod plugin, it can' just be implement like that
it doens't actually fix the issue, it just saves uber percentages before pauses and sets them again after the pause. the bug still occurs
the thing about the workshop stuff is that its 99% asset fixes
which like
valve is not going to take your asset
this is usually where any visual community fix goes to die btw, like how are you gonna replicate fixing up the texture of a scattergun for example?
because they have the original files
they would prefer you tell them how you fixed something
the only exception to this is like, the hud fixes
exactly
because most of the time the way those are done is the only or best way to fix something without completely rewriting it
funny thing is that the mod where the VMT parameters are changed for stock weapons could actually get in the game if they showed what happens before and after the changes in a email.
email is the best choice but also valve (understandably) has a super aggressive spam filter
yup
so the only real way to know if your thing got seen is if it
A. gets into the game
B. gets a reply
I've only gotten a reply once
I have no clue if my stuff was just bad (possibly) or didn't make it through the spam filter
ok my emails were kinda bad oops
what is a vtx jile
additionally I hate that if you use the contact form you don't get like a confirmation email
cause I know i've sent more than 3 emails
but most of them were through contact form
it stores vertex data
the game has vtx files for dx9, dx8, and software rendering
i just assume my messages didnt go through
dx8 iirc is identical to dx9 aside from the header
the only reply i got was from a form message
the last one is dumb has fuck
you can't delete .dx8.vtx files because the game crashes
literally studiomdl still generates them but the engine has 0 code for it
delete dx8 entirely
in theory it could be removed but idk how easily
i just meant in general
true
you left your cheat overlay running
closecaption_english.dat
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im reporting you to valve
@high current pleas fix
how
pljease remvove chjeat engine from xhud
are you dumb or smth?
no they're just bad at trolling
I say with authority as someone who is also bad
and cannot talk with authority
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thought it was gullywash, where last was impossible to push into
It was either Gully or Snakewater. Don't remember which.
ADHD meds have made me too powerful
I sat down and used Visual Studio for several hours without opening Youtube, Facebook, Reddit, or Discord once
how did you get your hands on adhd meds
teach me your ways
I asked my doctor about <insert medication here>
they've had a ""shortage"" of mine for months i havent been able to get any
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over
damn my meds aren't that powerful
this is called hyperfixation which is also just adhd
altho maybe its because I tend to try and do work after I open stuff up
Sounds like you got too high of a dose if you did al that tbh
Yes but I remembered to do some stupid chore that I told myself to remember in the morning
*Sounds like you got too
high of a dose if you did
al that tbh*
my psych started me on 10mg and said no one starts at 5mg because it does nothing. I felt like I was staring through people on 10mg and dropped down to 5mg
If you think it was beneficial, then thats sweet. But if it starts making you uncomfortable talk to your psych
simply get a bunch of haters that tell you that you wont be able to do {task x}. then u can be a madman and do it for 40 hours a day
@tough locust why did you break your hud
lol hey i wasn't the person that broke the hud
it borke
I really forgot how Casual's team balancing is really garbage sometimes
Yeah, there are moments where there's huge score gaps between the enemy team and our team.
i feel like for whatever reason community servers are more unbalanced until the teams are scrambled tho
I've had unbalanced matches on uncletopia or other servers but usually it's one round
Then everyone accepts a scramble
Most people seem rather good sport about keeping it balanced
from how much uncletopia ive been playing due to quickplay there have been multiple times on control point where the entire game ends in like 5 minutes because one team absolutely demolishes the other team and it's 3 - 0
On casual you can't really scramble anything so you're stuck either stomping or being stomped for the whole game
yeah
Being stuck in spawn because 4 of the new players decided to go sniper to really show em' isn't the coolest experience ahah
Was talking about casual
4,499 hours spent idling on the title screen đ„°
Fair
You're playing TF2 even if you're just clicking on that level badge thing
Arguably doing more than some engineers do on 2fort
they upkeep their buildings
In fairness, with 5 cp a map either lasts 5 min or 5 hours. Very rarely is there an in between in 12v12
worst gamemode ever â đ valve should remove 5cp actual garbafge mode
Yeah that sums up my experience with the gamemode
@high current why do you have less hours on tf2 than me, most competitive tf2 gamer i know
I have 2k hours on a different account. I made my current account when I started playing comp and didnât want a username I made when I was 8
I also try to close the game when Iâm not actively playing to try and keep my idle hours to a minimum. Obviously with hud editing I gave quite a few hours literally staring at the main menu though.
I think I am a small player with only 2.1k hours
pride scout
these r all from the same match
Deep rock galactic alpha footage
We sharing sniper clips? This dragshot felt faster when I was sleep deprived
I thought it was going to end at shooting the sticky
I thought it was gonna end with like 4 teammates dying to that one sticky that he failed to clear
I have faster clips #1072696252162117752 message
Fair and balanced
every person you killed with that crit was a spy lmao
*every person
you killed with that crit was a
spy lmao*
I think there was something like 10 spies on the enemy team
just like France
Oui
@orchid sorrel what is up with the spacial impasse mission, it's straight up broken lol
For some reason, I insta won the waves cause the bots would spawn near the hatch already.
I was locked out tho, I couldn't go in the building
why complain
you won the videogame
cause tbh winning instantly aint as fun as actually playing and winning.
tf2 classic goes hard
that's just regular tf2
300 heasdshot ills
Oh i see
Sometimes if a vscript mvm thing is updated the map has to restart
At least u got lucky(ish) and the final wave didnt softlock because of it
this is why vscript is the worst thing to ever be added to tf2
you have the dumbest take ever
it doesnt work
equipped it multiple times
the logo is still there
Wierd
actually robbed
when is the summer update supposed to be again
Updates, like wizards, arrive precisely when they mean to.
right now
best mod ever
it's not when "they have to"?
Dr Cactus, are there any other plants with doctorates?
only a spoonful
wtf
oh then your fault
obviously these maps arent allowed on quickplay lol
it's actually really funny so i added it to my server favorites
This looks kinad cool atually
tf2 just did the bi-yearly wipe of my favorites list for no goddamn reason
I played a similar tf2-csgo modded server back in like 2018 or something. But you got your class and then you got to buy TF2 weapons from the buy menu. So you could be a scout with a sniper on dust 2 for example. It was actually a great time.
i have bad news for you, these are all done with vscript
badass as hell
What server?
172.233.217.234:27015
incredibly niche question, but how do I properly compile animations on linux?
given the lack of studiomdl.exe
that crowbar thing that everyone uses or that horse viewmodel thing can probly do it
pretty sure you'll still need wine for that
#programmingđ» message
ok
ye but how.
eh nvm I'll figure it out
(I know how to use wine and such but crowbar needs studiomdl and anticipates the windows tf2 install)
got crowbar and the likes working
however
this happened again
could anyone explain why this happens
Whatâs happening?
after I compiled my mdls and put them in custom
the models are just stuck unmoving tethered to the top of the screen
*the models are just
stuck unmoving tethered to
the top of the screen*
linux
the custom map embargo is really cool
ya
it happened on windows as well
schizophrenia
do you guys have heard of a game called Team Fortress 2?
Oh that game is a overwatch clone for fat demented grandpas.
this is Team Fortress 2
THE MONTY MOLE INFESTATION HAS ABSOLUTELY RUINED THIS GAME
valve please ban the monty moles or fix valve anti mole đĄ
its interesting cause like we knew they had been working on it on and off for years
but the fact that jay was like "yeah here's a sneak peak"
is pretty interesting
although does jay really have a gmail address and not a valve software one?
HUGE
this is so cool
okay I got it working
however interestingly
pyro's left hand isn't visible
anything but confirmed
real or fake and g worded
only thing that seems sus is the email not being shown, if it's public why is it hidden
it's the email of the person who wrote to jay that's hidden
jay's is in the screenshot
seems fake i thought the script was finished back in 2017 and also he's been gone from valve for like 7? years now and the script says that it was drafted 6/15/24
on second look this has got to be fake, the panel looks super faithful to the official art but chances are this is just from the fan remake or some old unused panel (like the one where demoman injects himself with moonshine)
alright man
also why would the script be talking about issue 6 when they made issue 6 seems random
im sure you don't hear that word often
"chatgpt, generate me comic panels in the style of the tf2 comics"
nothing ever happens im saying it's fake because there's a tweet from jay pinkerton stating that the script has been done for years
That'd also be the most casual potential leak of content in a long time... And after such substantial leaks of Valve's new game I cant even remember the name of, it is sus
definitely hand-drawn tho
draw them yourself đ
Script being done and script being through revisions is one thing. But yeh ima gamble on fake and stinky
shounic claims that the leaker personally screenshared the email to him and he buys it. on the one hand he probably should've asked for the cert but on the other hand he would be insane to risk his reputation on this
My hilarious joke disappeared, I am shattered
btw in case anyone was doubting the comic leak https://vxtwitter.com/Wolpaw/status/1810967968307724563

cw: flashing texture
bruh this mat_forcedynamic cvar funny
u have to be in pyroland for this to happen for some reason
That makes me feel bad for Jay. Dude had his heart warmed by the sincerity of the community comic such that he trusted him with a sneak peak, and the little shit turned around and immediately leaked it.
That or maybe it was a case of âplease leak this so our higher ups are forced to let us release thisâ.
Either way itâs neat to know that itâs legit and coming soonâąïž. The first panels we see just make me think itâd be a perfect time to add that fossil themed map by UEAK Crash.
looking at Erik's reaction, it doesn't seem to have been met with complete disdain for their actions
Also calling it a "sneak peak" instead of just calling "leaked progress on the 7th comic" makes it seem even less likely to be done on ill will
3 variant covers implies a physical release.
im buying :3
please no, i already paid 100 bucks for the bg3 deluxe edition
Physical single issue comics usually aren't that expensive.
*Physical single
issue comics usually
aren't that expensive.*
shipping them over to the EU will be lol
especially with whatever I'll have to pay toll on top
It'll no doubt be free in digital form on the site.
Valve has released print editions of comics before.
we did it reddit
We did it reddit! We caught the Boston bomber!
holy shit it's real I haven't been this hyped in YEEEARS
lmfaooo of course he's trying to take credit
this was a vanity project the whole time
told you
I mean I already knew but it's funny how blatant he's being now
@jagged pawn has earned the Level 3 role!
conspiracy theory: #fixtf2 was intentionally timed just before valve was gonna do banwaves anyway
he never send those emails 
i know you're joking but, i think valve was just going to do this anyway, they where just waiting working on the shadows not telling because if people knew before hand the banwave would be for nothing
where #FixTF2 had influence or no is up to debate
I do kinda wonder if 64 bit, the ban waves, and the summer update were all planned to happen together.
if i have to guess yes
we know 64bit was pushed early with the objector fixes
I think joshie straight up said it
yeah lol
and considering the fact that the only update between january and now was the 64bit update (and a hotfix update a couple days later)
I think at the very least summer update and 64bit were supposed to be the same update
summer 2024 was most likely meant to be the big bug fix update. not a lot of new content, just a lot of quality of life changes
but they ended up releasing early lol
but because of how valve's packaging works, it was already pushed to staging, so when staging got pushed to live, the 64bit update got pushed with the objector fix
i mean is valve time we're talking about "summer" update can like two months after summer

because its easier to just push like that than it is to remove 64bit from staging just to add the objector fix
especially because the objector fix might've relied on some changes from 64bit
Just imagine a world where the GC went down, the summer update dropped with 64 bit and a ton of quality of life/bugfixes, and the ban waves spread across the bots, and then they also added a "Bee tee dubs, the next comic is coming, too."
that would be pretty huge
but instead being spread out has kinda weakened all of them
I agree purely from a news cycle perspective but idk I'm pretty equally hyped for all this
it feels like 2017 again
I think they will have quite a few bug fixes in the next update
Joshie was responding to bug reports for a bit
all sv_pure bypasses patched out 
He also took credit for the comic on twitter iirc
LOL
I almost got trolled
ya good, we all have moments of denseness
anyways, I'll be frank, I couldn't give much of a crap about all of the new TF2 stuff coming up
I'll enjoy all the new stuff while it lasts but I know this is just a small oasis in the middle of the desert
hopefully the new maps that come out this summer are good, at least
bro doesn't care about the comic
so that means that Valve loves it's games?
true, I don't know why but I've been conditioned to expect more from the best of the community than from Valve
[cue doomer rant about how the community will be expecting Valve to drop something major after this year when they get nothing, and they'll go #repairtf2 or some shit idk]
I hope everyone is ready for the corpse carrier Mk2. Now with extra heads.
Slap a certified Valve Momentâąïž on it and call it a day.
my biggest L of all time
lmao my prediction of 1 day after the summer sale is coming into fruition
no
play battle engie
and hey, at least engie has a chance at defending himself
spy for me is like holding myself at the mercy of the enemy team
:\
sisyphus
Hard disagree
also, seriously
Heavy is fun as shit if you can just hide
Spam short circuit on the payload cart and watch soldiers and demos rage in chat. 
every time i play heavy i get a k/d of like 3 and top score he is very fun
look at my kd
with Scout it's 1:1
with heavy, even in more open maps like payload â yeah I can say the same as Astolfo here
every time i play engineer i want to fucking kill myself
*every time i
play engineer i want to
fucking kill myself*
tbf, Engie barely gets any points, unless you play battle engie
That's a mood.
I'd ask my little bro about that, he specializes in the art of mini-sentry usage and he's pretty decent at it, maybe he gets something I don't
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i just dont fucking get it i would just so much would be rather playing scout or heavy thjan repeatedly rebuild my sentry only to have it do literally nothing and get destroyed
A classic from the art of battle engie.
even tho I still haven't refined my engineer, like, my. scout. just. dies.
he goes out to get one pick and then gets fragged by some sweatyass sniper or soldier
and then completely gets invalidated by the existence of a single sentry
all of that is the exact same with engineer but even worse
hm, perhaps
all I can say is, the only thing I can think of at this point is sentry jumping on some maps to get crazy stock sentry setups
like having a sentry+teleporter on the roof of that one building after the curve after badwater 4th
but then again I barely play engineer unless my team isn't running one so
yea
are you actually complaining about your sentry being destroyed by an ubered heavy
yes
because if i was just playing heavy i wouldnt have been destroyed
and i would have that "level 3 sentry" instantly instead of having to build it
he just fucking sucks man
ok bro
i hate engineer
ok
yeah ok
ok
the only time he's good is when he's on your team and you are being healed by his dispenser...
ok
okay
every other time he's unfun
ok
alright
ig he's also good when you have him in the intelligence room on 2for
tbf there's little you can do against an uber outside of stalling with wrangler and hoping your team is competent enough
if you have a certain breed of low-skill player like me/fresh install pyro, you'll be thankful when you see a pyro doing an airblast spam sac to at least deny the uber a bit longer
or a genius demo sending the uber into the stratosphere with a sticky trap
everyone just says battle engineer or gunslinger or whatever is the only way to have fun as engineer why did valve design base regular defense engineer to be so fucking bad
because that was his purpose, though? some people prefer hard stall defense, and that's what engie provides
and let's be honest, it's already hard enough to take out one Level 3 without team coordination unless the sentry spot is bad
idk tho, I gotta go do things, so seeya I guess
good luck
I mean
Getting your stuff destroyed is a part of the design
It's a cycle
graaaaa
why playing medic is so much better...
I want to make a "they turned tf2 into overwatch" joke about your particles
i feel like if you're playing engi just to get kills with your level 3 sentry you don't have the right mindset for playing engi
guys why can't I frag with the cool big gun đĄ
is that not how are you supposed to play engineer
im too scared to play engi, all of the sudden all Demomans are focused in me
Fr
The focus should be more on the fact you're more of a support class
With telepoetation, cover provided by sentry, and dispenser
The engineer is the ultimate team support class
the minisentry:
mastercomfig vac ban confirmed
thats not a vac ban afaik
i'm aware, but it would have been much funnier if they actually got vac banned
You can
if valve adds embargo to tf2 i will :3
me when the anal bead vibrates, informing me that I should move my bishop
true...
0 populated uncletopia servers in USA
the 2 people in the "us east" server is actually 2 people in one thousand uncles in canada
there is no populated community "casual" servers at all in my area
ok
Be the change you want to see in the world
you're looking at UT servers in the US when in the US it was between 4-7AM
who tf is playing tf2 at those times in the US
no update this week đą
It could still be today, but it's more likely tomorrow, or next week.
they never drop on fridays bc they need a day for hotfixes
*they never drop on
fridays bc they need a
day for hotfixes*
what update?
Hasn't stopped em lol
sumer
easter egg on rotunda
Those particles are trippy af
how many dummies are you surrounded by, fr it seems as though they're just standing there and taking the flamethrower
story of my life on discord
man
is thewhat show an industry plant
which industry
builder's league united
sorry for ping but need quick help @summer steeple gonna update mastercomfig but if I use direct install with default settings will it override my current custom settings from previous mastercomfig install or do I need to pick the customizations again?
I'm not sure, I would make sure that you backup your customizations just in case, and then double check once the install is done
it remembers your customizations on the browser if you set them there
yeah, I know. I've reinstalled Windows since then, so it wasn't remembered. Also I'm excited for the next mastercomfig update!
I'll donate a few dollars once it's out 
wednesday for sure i swear broze
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The community crossover between drg and tf2 is pretty substantial tbh
nom
does heavy need to be nerfed?
yup
Better expert than any moonlight expert mission from the last community tour.
I actually had a blast

i like how it has arms even though the regular buster doesn't
on a semi-related note, I was playing with some friends last night and the custom music didn't play for them (it did for me), any ideas as to why that might happen?
might not have downloaded properly, or they have music turned off maybe
what mission
Mud on the map Lotus
they def didn't have music turned off
cause they could hear regular MVM music
hmm
we'll need to wait until the heavy update, it should come soon
just realized that on the original post for the summer 2023 update you can literally see where they copy-pasted the description from the other updates and forgot to hold ctrl
that's not what it is
it is a typo but it's a formatting error for the bullet points
notice that there's no bullet
they outsmarted the bullet, incredible
you know the versus saxton hale map Skirmish? in that map, you can go to a security room that has working monitors, using a lower quality disables em from working.
this will also apply to other maps using this feature.
had no idea the monitors work lmao guess I'm turning my settings up now
sad that valve fully patched out the ability to apply colored decals in the 64 bit update
awesome flamethrower name 
RIP lol, now we getting corn in black and white like the good ol' days 
no you can actually just download the old tf2 binaries and put them in your tf2 folder to make colored decals again
thanks for an app idea niterux
what
what app
app
app

i guess the paper printings and the sending them to valve was the friends made along the way
it was a thing they added semi recently
isnt monitors just an rtcamera
why would that need vscript that has been functionality since half life 2
it doesnt its just added in the same update
theres vscript ladders i think
there are but its by like
forcing the player into the swimming state
or condition rather
i never played mvm, idk what is is
is it fun?
am i doing good as a scout player?
monika (real)
