#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year

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summer steeple
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and i think it can tell you the syllables of a message

unborn pecan
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I LOVE YOU HAIKU BOT

next nymph
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you can ask it how many syllables are in a word or message

small sirenBOT
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*you can ask it how

many syllables are in

a word or message*

turbid hill
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I see

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I just googled what a Haiku was

eternal haven
rare creek
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đŸ„°

left sand
rare creek
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ermmmmm,,. . not MY faujlt thatt uickplay put me on there

turbid hill
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I forgot they had a watermark

eternal haven
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Is there a way to disable the watermark?

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(that's not cheating)

rare creek
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i had it disabled in my xhud fork at some point but i dont use that anymore

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you can disable those big text overlays by editing your hud

small sirenBOT
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*you can disable

those big text overlays by

editing your hud*

rare creek
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it's some panel named hudmessage iirc

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but it kind of sucks if you play mge since they are the same panel

wild grove
rare creek
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15000 credits 💀

wild grove
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I got that from playing on the trade servers a lot

rare creek
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what about trade servers?

wild grove
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I played on em a lot to get the disable logo option overtime.

zealous pond
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Sure it is. A good mix of fodder to stomp and higher skill players to provide a challenge seems about just right.

turbid hill
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I used to enjoy it but I got bored of it

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Even uncletopia's worst players at the very least understand enough about the game to make for compelling fights

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I don't play enough of TF2 anymore to really need mindless stuff

rare creek
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been on skial for too long

turbid hill
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3H of TF2 would have me genuinely tired lmao

cursive peak
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I used to play like 7 or 8 hours/night.

turbid hill
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I will overdose on sugar to overdose on TF2

mystic turtle
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me, I used to play a lot more

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now I guess I've cut back to like, 3-4 h if I got the time

wild grove
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honestly I play for longer if friends invite me.

summer steeple
mystic turtle
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since the game gets stale (and ofc this discounts me outright ragequitting if I get constant losses in Casual)

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which happens quite a fair bit

turbid hill
mystic turtle
summer steeple
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I like don't even play tf2 anymore without friends

turbid hill
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The only friend I've got to play TF2 struggles to play for long though, so I end up having longer seshs by myself

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When I was 11 or 12, I could play for an entire day

turbid hill
summer steeple
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cringeeeeeee

turbid hill
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I'd rather die if I overextend my position than not having the ability to save some peeps in clutch situations

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"Firepower" be damned

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I haven't seen anyone use syringe guns in a while actually

mystic turtle
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I mean, I only use syringes if I'm like, not doing well as med
which usually translates to healing enemy spies and missing crossbow bolts + overextending and dropping uber

rare creek
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tf2 players are little bugs CONFIRMED

summer steeple
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i mean it makes sense

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it stands out, potentially intentionally

summer steeple
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also what happened I thought like years ago dane's twitter got suspended and he was like "you know what this is a good thing" and decided not to contest it

velvet raft
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look behind you

summer steeple
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i won't

velvet raft
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well at least turn on your tv is boring in here

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do you have a charger i can use

summer steeple
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depends

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what device are you using

velvet raft
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look behind you and you'll see it yourself

summer steeple
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no thanks

velvet raft
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😔

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USB-C

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can i borrow a blanket

rare creek
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im not entirely buying that cl_resend controls how fast you check a2s server s

velvet raft
rare creek
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it seems to refer to how fast the retry command sends the 4 retries out

next nymph
small sirenBOT
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haiku bot is the best: 6 syllables

eternal haven
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at least not directly

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though the first step of connecting to a server is doing an a2s challenge thing

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the same kind of challenge you have to do for a2s_info/players/rules

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but idk if that matters

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if the challenge is successful, the challenge number should be able to be reused

rare creek
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i mean like when you select auto join when player slot is empy

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people kept sayuing it controllet that speed and lowering cl_resend would let you get into servers before other players

eternal haven
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I think cl_resend would only matter if the connection process fails to start for some reason

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it should have absolutely no bearing on the frequency your client queries the server prior to connecting to it

rare creek
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yesd

eternal haven
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I mean it can't necessarily hurt to lower it

rare creek
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i think it can

eternal haven
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it's not impossible for your connection process to fail and have to try again

rare creek
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you only get 4 reconnects and if it failed to connect because your network was only down for like 20 seconds then cl_resend 7 would work but cl_resend 1.5 would fail

eternal haven
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I guess

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also it's maybe possible you could get a2s ratelimited if you did 4 challenge requests back to back

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but I doubt that

rare creek
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i think ugc has a2s ratelimits

eternal haven
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well all source engine servers have ratelimiting by default

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some go above and beyond by tightening the defaults even further

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or using a custom caching solution for it and perhaps applying their own ratelimiting to that

hidden gyro
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I thought 8ms was the best possible ping on valve servers

rare creek
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5ms is best

eternal haven
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Yeah 5 ms in scoreboard is the best seemingly

kind falcon
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đŸ€«

eternal haven
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cmdrate cringe

kind falcon
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yup

hidden gyro
kind falcon
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with the actual ping being 10-25~

slender nexus
eternal haven
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        latency -= (0.5f/nCmdRate) + TICKS_TO_TIME( 1.0f ); // correct latency
kind falcon
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â˜č

eternal haven
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đŸ€”

rare creek
wild grove
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those particles look nice but does it decrease fps?

rare creek
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I think only the teleporter particles decrease fps i think the rest increase it

kind falcon
tough locust
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what would tf2 look like today if they didn't patch out bhopping

kind falcon
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quake like gameplay?

orchid sorrel
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What would tf2 look like today if it had tripping

kind falcon
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tf2 if it was black or asian

high current
# tough locust what would tf2 look like today if they didn't patch out bhopping

Probably not absurdly different. You’d get some interesting rocket jump tech for maintaining velocity, like rocket-less skip jumps. But for general movement it’d probably be too inconsistent with sever tick rate to go TOO crazy with. It’d probably be comparable with the older CSs where you could bhop but eventually it’d die. Unless they added auto hop like quake.

Maybe they wouldn’t have added the change where all mediguns give medic scout speed when healing a scout. Even with current movement Shade was famous for being able to not hold back scouts on his team, which is one of the reasons he’s regarded as the best medic ever. If bhopping was a notable mechanic then it’d probably be one of the things medic mains would specialize in.

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It would make movement buffing items even more dominant in the meta. As apparently air strafe control is related to a class’s current movement speed. So gaining like 15% movement speed, or whatever GRU or Power Jack give, would be able to snowball into even more speed with more aggressive bhops.

left sand
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didnt they give medic that to nerf the quick fix

crisp cedar
turbid hill
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What are you doing to your mic

crisp cedar
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i was bhopping and i got hurt

high current
# left sand didnt they give medic that to nerf the quick fix

I don’t think so? I don’t think the quick fix was considered op. I don’t think it was banned in comp at least. I assume it was done to speed up the game, but it was really just the biggest buff to scout or all time.

There’s probably some archaic patch note. Meet Your Match was when they tried open communication.

turbid hill
soft lynx
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Pretty sure it was meant to make scout ubers faster, not necessarily to nerf the quickfix. It was banned for a while, due to making the game slower/unfun

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Might even still be banned or have been banned again

high current
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Huh, you’re right, ESEA had quick fix banned. I always forget just how strict their whitelist was. It was basically only meta weapons allowed.

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It’s definitely not banned any more. Because you can still die to traps which makes it useless on a lot of maps, if not all.

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Wait it is banned? WTF
 who decided that? I’ve literally only ever seen players talk about how hard you’re throwing if you equip it, at all levels of RGL

turbid hill
high current
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I don’t think anyone has bothered to try equipping it to figure out that it was banned tbh

turbid hill
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Never forget what they did to the gloves of running urgently...

turbid hill
high current
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Honestly I think most the balance changes were fine. The sandman + cleaver nerf and ambassador nerf were bad. And the dr “nerf” just made it even more aids to play against.

turbid hill
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I thought ambassador was a silly concept to begin with, spy doesn't really need to headshot

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Thank god the complete stun from the sandman is gone though

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It died with it but it's okay

high current
turbid hill
high current
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I think if they kept the cleaver combo with the current sandman, it still would be fine. But as it stands the sandman is useless and the cleaver is bad. People run it at times in highlander but it’s still bad.

turbid hill
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I wish they could find another way to make it good aside from completely stunning players

high current
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I’ve never gotten more than like single rocket/stick jumps to work with quick fix. I feel like if a team can’t handle a medic pencil jumping without full invincibility, then they were going to lose anyway.

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The slow is fine. Or it would be if you couldn’t a-d spam to entirely negate it.

turbid hill
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I think slow is alright

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I still think it's kind of cheap in a sense

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Like the Natasha

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But arguably the skill necessary to hit the ball is much higher than it is to use the natasha

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I wonder, what do people think of the ambassador now?

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I never really looked into what the community felt, I just thought it'd be better to not have headshots in the first place

kind falcon
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ambasador 150 dmg glitch

high current
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The ambassador is bad now. But spy mains still run it because it looks good in over-edited frag movies.

turbid hill
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I find it way less reliable now yeah

soft lynx
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Not worth the effort lol

high current
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IMO they should have gone a simpler route and had it do crits up to a certain distance, then bump down to mini crits at long range. The whole “it crits but it a affected by damage fall off, but then it minicrits and is affected by damage fall off” just sounds like they couldn’t figure out what to do and didn’t know how to ctrl+z so they kept adding mechanics until it was bad.

soft lynx
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It's still fun, but even smth like the enforcer has more uses than the Amby

turbid hill
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I think at very close range, it's not that outrageous to give spy the opportunity to have a quick 102 damage at the expense of it needing a lot of skill to pull off reliably

kind falcon
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nono... too op.. gunspy rises in rgl

turbid hill
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And yeah I think a simple "can't headshot past this point" would've worked okay

high current
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Even stock. Stock was always the more reliable version of the amby, it does basically the same if not more dps compared to amby headshots, without the risk of going for harder targets. And that was the consensus pre-nerf

turbid hill
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Stock is better

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I find the l'étranger and stock to be the best to use nowadays?

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Diamondback if you're a prick

high current
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The problem is, sigafoo played against max, an invite sniper who also played high level comp cs, and got rolled by max using the ambassador. So sigafoo personally campaigned to valve to nerf the ambassador

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Diamond back has been an easier version of the diamond back since it was changed to give crits for playing the class. I’m convinced it was an oversight in the balance changes.

turbid hill
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Yeah I can't wrap my head as to why it escaped the nerfs

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I think only because not many people use it

kind falcon
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because u still have to backstab a person

turbid hill
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Despite how objectively OP it is, no one uses it

kind falcon
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and survive,

turbid hill
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That's called playing spy

kind falcon
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thats called playing spy in a pub

high current
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It was just the ambassador’s ugly brother. Always has been, always will be.

turbid hill
kind falcon
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in hl you supposedly die after taking down your only target, medic

turbid hill
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I guess they were only targetting comp for the balances yeah

kind falcon
high current
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I’m convinced that the diamond back, and scorch shot / detonator splash damage dealing full after burn, are oversights in the balance passes. There’s no way anyone looked at all those and went “these are fun”

turbid hill
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Damn that's why the whole balancing around comp was silly ahah

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Years later all we can do is look back and wonder "well how the hell did this make any sense" if you forgot that it was for comp reasons

turbid hill
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Because no one played them in comp

high current
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As spy you also go for the tele entrance because that’s less defended and harder to replace, this nearly always kills the tele exit too. That’s two free crits pretty frequently. Also if you kill the sniper (huge pick in HL) you can often get away pretty freely.

turbid hill
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And they killed my GRU which is rather annoying now that I've realised Heavy is really fun, minus the rollout part

high current
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You could easily turn a tele sap into a med pick

turbid hill
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in pubs it's extremely easy to rack up crits

high current
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I think gru is fine now

kind falcon
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oh hell nah its a promotional item

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dxhr whatve you done to the videogame

turbid hill
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Like not something I actually wanna pay attention to enough to not use another melee and accept running for longer

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In a sense I get it, in comp it was banned for a hella good reason

high current
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It’s annoying, but it was so free to use before the change. And I think for what it’s meant to do, the change makes a lot of sense. I actually think it’s one of the better thought out changes they made.

turbid hill
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It's definitely far from a stupid change

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I'll give them that

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It gave a proper tradeoff to a proper advantage

high current
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It was only banned in 6s because no one wanted heavy to mid. It wouldn’t be op, it would just be unfun. It was still banned for probably a year or two after that change until b4nny basically single-handedly rewrote the RGL 6s whitelist.

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Buffalo steak sandwhich was banned for the same reason. Despite being a literal throw

turbid hill
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Yeah makes sense

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I think it would've been a tiny bit better if Valve didn't try to balance for comp as much as they could've balanced for pubs

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At the end of the day, 6v6 is still its own game, not extremely different, but it's different enough to not consider it the main TF2

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The weapons that were balanced around "is it fun to play against or not" got the better nerfs it seems

kind falcon
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there had been one balance change to diamondback (and that being the addition of crit charges for backstabbing people)

cursive peak
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Pub play is gonna be hard to think around. There's so few assumptions you can make.

turbid hill
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That's how they balanced weapons beforehand

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Arguably they weren't very good at it

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But given enough time, usually they found ways to narrow a weapon down to a good enough balance

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It's too late to rewrite the past though ahah, I think the state of the game's rather okay

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dead weapons are better than all of them being OP/too unfun to play against

turbid hill
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Mobas seem like way more of a pain to balance ngl

glass pollen
glass pollen
high current
turbid hill
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You could make a banger sound for it

spring kestrel
spring kestrel
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I got 1k kills on it for fun

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That was accomplished through force a nature meatshots into the ball

left sand
# high current I don’t think so? I don’t think the quick fix was considered op. I don’t think i...

im pretty sure it was at the time that the comp community was talking about the quick fix unban, and valve was actively seeking to rebalance weapons to cause unbans. they made a series of nerfs to the quick fix to make it more balanced for competitive play, lots of people in the community kept making suggestions about it. they removed its ability to cap during its uber, reduced its ubercharge rate, and made its speed mirroring ability non unique over months.

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the complaints about the quick fix were that it made rollouts for medic faster, its ubercharge rate caused enemy medics to have to switch to it, especially since its uber was very strong, allowing people to cap points.

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the competitive community was actively asking for the mirroring to be removed from the quick fix, the Uber charge rate to be removed or at least reduced, and its ability to capture points removed. they argued that it should just be a heal centered medigun only

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valve directly addressed the last 2 balance points

misty plover
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Honestly it wasn't even that strong in its prime either

left sand
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however, i think they felt mirroring was a very unique mechanic they didn't want to lose

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so they gave medic it as a base ability so quick fix wouldnt be as strong comparatively

left sand
misty plover
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True

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I think a lot of bans from that era revolved around just not wanting to risk the meta changing

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"The meta must be pure" kind of thing, I think?

left sand
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yup

cursive peak
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Didn't they cite a particularly lengthy and stalematey Snakewater match for QF ban?

left sand
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yup

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the other reason would be, they would cite a theoretical or real anecdote about that weapon being annoying one time

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like for scorch shot, rescue ranger and others

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it was really funny imo to hear

misty plover
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I think scorch shot is still banned in highlander?

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The old comp scene is really wacky to look back on

misty plover
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Players are a lot more receptive to slight changes and tweaks to elements of the game

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Shooter players tend to care a lot more about their muscle memory and game feel, so even a slight tweak can result in well

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I guess the meet your match balance backlash is probably the best example

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A single bullet in the clip reduction can completely ruin a weapon for people

cursive peak
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EU used to ban every unlock but Ubersaw and Kritzkrieg.

misty plover
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Or for a better example, just look at the helldivers 2 balance backlash lol

misty plover
cursive peak
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It's a fine unlock.

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Banning Gunboats was way weirder.

left sand
# turbid hill In a sense I get it, in comp it was banned for a hella good reason

i really dont think this was true. "heavy to mid" was a huge meme but supposedly for the optimal comp being 2-2-1-1 scouts, soldiers, demo, med, it wasn't going to hold out to compromise your soldier or scout for an extra 250 health. but if it WAS ideal, then how could it have been a bad thing? unless the 6s meta was fake...

left sand
cursive peak
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That was rare back then. Shotgun Pocket was meta.

misty plover
left sand
misty plover
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The meta classes are mainly flick classes

cursive peak
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Pre-i46

left sand
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oh i might be thinking about another time they banned the gunboats

misty plover
left sand
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scout pistol does

misty plover
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Fair point

left sand
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but yes thats another thing, the meta was the way it was because of bias in who was playing, coaching comp and what they were good at and practicing

misty plover
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To be honest, I'd argue DF pyro has more potential becoming a meta stay than heavy ever would even if heavy-to-mid was real based on that bias alone

left sand
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i found it funny that comp players demanded comp matchmaking have 6s class restrictions

misty plover
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I wish official comp didn't die so fast

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It deserved so much better lol

left sand
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its the end of the world

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so pyro must receive weapon bans

kind falcon
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poweryack

misty plover
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Tbf the biggest complaint I hear with pyro is the DF is too weak in airblasting to deal with 6s

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Which I kinda agree with

left sand
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pyro should've been pocket...

jagged pawn
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SO TRUE

misty plover
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Comspetitive coming 2025

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Pyro WILL be meta

kind falcon
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every class banned except payro

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payro medic... payro payro... payro spy

jagged pawn
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jungle inferno was a pretty blatant attempt at making pocket pyro a thing imo

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didn't work obviously

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but that looks like the goal

kind falcon
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scout payro... wit jetparck

jagged pawn
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unfortunately airblast is so good that having a slightly worse one killed the dragon's fury

misty plover
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Zero reason for it to exist

jagged pawn
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6s players still run stock even when they run full time pyro (which happened in invite a couple seasons ago, it was sick)

kind falcon
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they should...

misty plover
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Valve should just...

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Make me the new weapon balancer! steamhappy

jagged pawn
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no me

left sand
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the reason they changed the radius so much was because it extended the range too much

kind falcon
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ill be the balancer

left sand
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they should have instead slightly reduced the radius and then added a flat distance check for range

jagged pawn
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then shorten the range instead of doing a shitty roundabout fix that ruins the weapon yeah lol

misty plover
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Mmmhm

kind falcon
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huntsman crossbow. faster arrow, bigger projectile

spare obsidian
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if airblast was so good, why there's not a sequel to it?

misty plover
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DF had so many weird issues at release

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I will never forget syringe medic being a true counter

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Go into chokey tunnel, lying in ambush to kill your prey
Medic walks in
He has syringes
You're not allowed to play the game

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Truly, demoknight reborn

cursive peak
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What I had imagined the DF and jetpack being before launch was more like a Soldier who could set people on fire with his rockets.

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And air control like Phara

misty plover
jagged pawn
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LMAO

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that's fucked

misty plover
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It took like

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Two years to fix

jagged pawn
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I don't remember that at all

misty plover
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Maybe more?

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If you didn't run the DF you didn't know we just malded in silence

jagged pawn
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yeah fair I probably hadn't unlocked yet

left sand
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the jetback was obviously very toned down for release

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but they were iteratively buffing it

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too bad they stopped balancing the game

jagged pawn
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jetpack could've been so good

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they were visibly scared of making it OP yeah

misty plover
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Dear Eric,
My name is Tf2Fan1997
Please let me balance game
Thank you

jagged pawn
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jungle inferno was the update of good ideas that needed a follow-up update (no blue moon was not enough)

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so now none of it is really that useful because they couldn't iterate

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except the banana I guess

left sand
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the problem with blue moon though is it nerfed pyro into the ground again

misty plover
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But I doubt it

left sand
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any second now... any second now..

misty plover
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Nuh uh

kind falcon
left sand
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anyone excited for the summer update?

misty plover
misty plover
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It came so fast

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Just 51 hours away

wild grove
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it did go away :(

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oh I see the issue, but it was gonna go away, it's just that someone left, and the timer was reset back.

misty plover
wild grove
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yes

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map emails were sent out last week

misty plover
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I have been way too deep into my own projects to pay attention to tf2 stuff

wild grove
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tbf we are not supposed to know that

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people who are friends with map creators keep leaking that

misty plover
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I mean it helps build hype, so its whatever

wild grove
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yeah, guess so

broken haven
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when is the summer update

summer steeple
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judging by previous dates

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its like early-mid july

misty plover
rare creek
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awesome

wild grove
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Isnt the script already completed?

kind falcon
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â˜č

tough locust
rare creek
tough locust
drowsy marlin
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I wonder what they're gonna do for the update

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I'm hyped for what bugs they're gonna fix

rare creek
small sirenBOT
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*added 23

new hats 8 new shitty maps

no other changes*

drowsy marlin
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Okay but they have to include a patch note that's silly when you read it. Like the game thinking the player is Gordon Freeman

left sand
spring kestrel
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But I'm not excited?

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I'm excited for the prospect of playing tf2, I am not excited about anything else

left sand
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i think everyone should be hyped because summer is always a great time

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2023 was amazing

spring kestrel
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2023 was fun

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Mostly because of selbyen

left sand
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selbyen was a psyop

spring kestrel
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But I wasn't excited about anything else last year

left sand
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vsh was cool

spring kestrel
drowsy marlin
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Didnt they add phoenix summer 2023?

summer steeple
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yeah

drowsy marlin
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That was an amazing addition. I love phoenix!

left sand
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overwatch map

summer steeple
spring kestrel
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Phoenix is fun

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I don't think it's a great map

left sand
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also has anyone capped last yet?

summer steeple
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very often

spring kestrel
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But it feels fun to play on

summer steeple
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its not a bad last point

drowsy marlin
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But didnt someone from the tf team say this summer update wont be as large as last years?

left sand
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fuck im a noob

left sand
small sirenBOT
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*what you consider

large and what valve considers

large might be different*

left sand
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summer 2023 added like 14 maps

spring kestrel
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There are enough "places" to be for each class to easily contribute

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So you can get into a lot of fun 1v1s

drowsy marlin
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I'm thinking they're not going to ass a new game mode this year

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Add

summer steeple
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ass

drowsy marlin
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No

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I didnt mean ass

drowsy marlin
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I dunno. Im talking out of my add

spring kestrel
drowsy marlin
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Ass

eternal haven
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Eric said that in some kind of interview

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Apparently

spring kestrel
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Damn

eternal haven
drowsy marlin
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Regardless I'll enjoy this update, regardless of what it is

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I do wish they'd make balance changes though. Thatll freshen up the game a ton

eternal haven
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The game is balanced impressively well

drowsy marlin
#

For the kost part yeah

#

I hate the vaccinator, dead ringer, and the wrangler

eternal haven
#

I wouldn't imagine changes would be received all that well at this point

drowsy marlin
#

Kill those three weapons and the game is epic

#

Oh and kunai is cringe too

#

And quick fix is the weakest medigun

#

And buff dragons fury airblast

#

You know what I would do the the dragons fury?

Airblast will cost 3 ammo instead of 5
Airblasts that reflect a projectile or extinguish a burning teammate wont have a repressurization penalty

#

That type of buff would make it the best flamethrower in the game

summer steeple
#

honestly i kind of think it already is the best one in the game

drowsy marlin
#

It is

#

I just want it to be even better

summer steeple
#

its DPS is good enough that I think having a weaker airblast is part of the tradeoff

#

maybe the ammo change is ok

drowsy marlin
#

Plus it has the longest range of all throwers

kind falcon
drowsy marlin
#

Okay maybe 4 ammo cost

#

Doing the math last is the most vital part of the balancing process

kind falcon
#

still too good for a hungry fireball firing weapon

#

keep it at degreasers level

#

n quit fantasizing you quirky white boy

drowsy marlin
#

Racit

kind falcon
rare creek
#

remove pyro

drowsy marlin
#

OH

#

Remove that stupid heavy nerf from 2014

#

Why does he deal zero damage after revving for a second

#

Cringe

proper tangle
#

I just want to see whats fixed this time

#

It's a long shot, but hopefully some broken animations

radiant merlin
#

i guess that the only reason why they didn't fix it yet is because they saw there's a plugin that fixes it and said "well community fixed it already so why spend time on it?"

drowsy marlin
#

Why not make the community fix an official part of the game?

#

Doesn't valve do that already?

wild grove
#

Yes but not a lot of people know how to properly do it.

#

As in send the fix

#

For one, steam workshop is insta deatg, do not post em there, it's very unlikely they'll implement anything there.

It's either email for increased chance or github.

#

then in that email, you need to go step by step how to replicate said fix, also make sure that the subject is about the community fix.

radiant merlin
#

it doens't actually fix the issue, it just saves uber percentages before pauses and sets them again after the pause. the bug still occurs

summer steeple
#

the thing about the workshop stuff is that its 99% asset fixes

#

which like

#

valve is not going to take your asset

wild grove
summer steeple
#

because they have the original files

#

they would prefer you tell them how you fixed something

#

the only exception to this is like, the hud fixes

summer steeple
#

because most of the time the way those are done is the only or best way to fix something without completely rewriting it

wild grove
#

funny thing is that the mod where the VMT parameters are changed for stock weapons could actually get in the game if they showed what happens before and after the changes in a email.

summer steeple
#

email is the best choice but also valve (understandably) has a super aggressive spam filter

wild grove
#

yup

summer steeple
#

so the only real way to know if your thing got seen is if it
A. gets into the game
B. gets a reply

#

I've only gotten a reply once

wild grove
#

thank god I got B.

#

like twice

summer steeple
#

I have no clue if my stuff was just bad (possibly) or didn't make it through the spam filter

#

ok my emails were kinda bad oops

rare creek
#

what is a vtx jile

summer steeple
#

additionally I hate that if you use the contact form you don't get like a confirmation email

#

cause I know i've sent more than 3 emails

#

but most of them were through contact form

summer steeple
#

the game has vtx files for dx9, dx8, and software rendering

rare creek
summer steeple
#

dx8 iirc is identical to dx9 aside from the header

#

the only reply i got was from a form message

spare obsidian
radiant merlin
#

you can't delete .dx8.vtx files because the game crashes

spare obsidian
#

literally studiomdl still generates them but the engine has 0 code for it

rare creek
summer steeple
#

in theory it could be removed but idk how easily

spare obsidian
#

what the sw.vtx?

#

those can be safely remove

summer steeple
#

i just meant in general

limpid panther
rare creek
#

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HEAVY TF2

kind falcon
rare creek
kind falcon
limpid panther
#

caught on camera

rare creek
limpid panther
#

đŸ€š 📾

kind falcon
#

im reporting you to valve

rare creek
#

@high current pleas fix

high current
#

how

rare creek
spare obsidian
#

are you dumb or smth?

summer steeple
#

no they're just bad at trolling

#

I say with authority as someone who is also bad

#

and cannot talk with authority

rare creek
next nymph
cursive peak
#

It was either Gully or Snakewater. Don't remember which.

hidden gyro
#

ADHD meds have made me too powerful

#

I sat down and used Visual Studio for several hours without opening Youtube, Facebook, Reddit, or Discord once

rare creek
#

how did you get your hands on adhd meds

hidden gyro
#

I asked my doctor about <insert medication here>

rare creek
#

they've had a ""shortage"" of mine for months i havent been able to get any

hidden gyro
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

rare creek
#

over

summer steeple
#

damn my meds aren't that powerful

rare creek
summer steeple
#

altho maybe its because I tend to try and do work after I open stuff up

high current
#

Sounds like you got too high of a dose if you did al that tbh

hidden gyro
small sirenBOT
#

*Sounds like you got too

high of a dose if you did

al that tbh*

high current
#

my psych started me on 10mg and said no one starts at 5mg because it does nothing. I felt like I was staring through people on 10mg and dropped down to 5mg

#

If you think it was beneficial, then thats sweet. But if it starts making you uncomfortable talk to your psych

kind falcon
#

simply get a bunch of haters that tell you that you wont be able to do {task x}. then u can be a madman and do it for 40 hours a day

rare creek
#

@tough locust why did you break your hud

tough locust
kind falcon
#

it borke

turbid hill
#

I really forgot how Casual's team balancing is really garbage sometimes

wild grove
#

Yeah, there are moments where there's huge score gaps between the enemy team and our team.

rare creek
#

i feel like for whatever reason community servers are more unbalanced until the teams are scrambled tho

turbid hill
#

I've had unbalanced matches on uncletopia or other servers but usually it's one round

#

Then everyone accepts a scramble

#

Most people seem rather good sport about keeping it balanced

rare creek
#

from how much uncletopia ive been playing due to quickplay there have been multiple times on control point where the entire game ends in like 5 minutes because one team absolutely demolishes the other team and it's 3 - 0

turbid hill
#

On casual you can't really scramble anything so you're stuck either stomping or being stomped for the whole game

rare creek
#

yeah

turbid hill
#

Being stuck in spawn because 4 of the new players decided to go sniper to really show em' isn't the coolest experience ahah

rare creek
#

erm

#

uncletopia has class limits of 3

turbid hill
#

Was talking about casual

rare creek
turbid hill
#

Nice

#

Over double mine

rare creek
#

4,499 hours spent idling on the title screen đŸ„°

turbid hill
#

Fair

#

You're playing TF2 even if you're just clicking on that level badge thing

#

Arguably doing more than some engineers do on 2fort

kind falcon
#

they upkeep their buildings

high current
#

In fairness, with 5 cp a map either lasts 5 min or 5 hours. Very rarely is there an in between in 12v12

rare creek
turbid hill
rare creek
# rare creek

@high current why do you have less hours on tf2 than me, most competitive tf2 gamer i know

high current
#

I have 2k hours on a different account. I made my current account when I started playing comp and didn’t want a username I made when I was 8

#

I also try to close the game when I’m not actively playing to try and keep my idle hours to a minimum. Obviously with hud editing I gave quite a few hours literally staring at the main menu though.

turbid hill
#

I think I am a small player with only 2.1k hours

slender nexus
hidden gyro
#

Wait no Bisexual Scout

summer steeple
#

pride scout

potent wolf
#

also what projectile particles are you using?

rare creek
#

these r all from the same match

rare creek
#

dwarf fortress

high current
#

Deep rock galactic alpha footage

high current
#

We sharing sniper clips? This dragshot felt faster when I was sleep deprived

radiant merlin
high current
#

I thought it was going to end at shooting the sticky

limpid panther
rare creek
high current
rare creek
#

every person you killed with that crit was a spy lmao

small sirenBOT
#

*every person

you killed with that crit was a

spy lmao*

high current
#

I think there was something like 10 spies on the enemy team

velvet raft
#

just like France

high current
#

Oui

wild grove
#

@orchid sorrel what is up with the spacial impasse mission, it's straight up broken lol

orchid sorrel
#

Wdym

#

I did a run a few hours ago and it worked fine 4 me

wild grove
#

For some reason, I insta won the waves cause the bots would spawn near the hatch already.

#

I was locked out tho, I couldn't go in the building

kind falcon
#

you won the videogame

wild grove
#

cause tbh winning instantly aint as fun as actually playing and winning.

kind falcon
#

maybe your goal is to get the medal

#

who nose..

burnt dragon
rare creek
#

that's just regular tf2

rare creek
#

300 heasdshot ills

orchid sorrel
#

Sometimes if a vscript mvm thing is updated the map has to restart

#

At least u got lucky(ish) and the final wave didnt softlock because of it

rare creek
#

this is why vscript is the worst thing to ever be added to tf2

spare obsidian
#

you have the dumbest take ever

rare creek
#

no i dont

#

prove it

rare creek
#

equipped it multiple times

#

the logo is still there

wild grove
#

Wierd

rare creek
#

actually robbed

spring kestrel
#

when is the summer update supposed to be again

cursive peak
#

Updates, like wizards, arrive precisely when they mean to.

jagged pawn
#

right now

orchid sorrel
#

well thats the whole tour 4 me

#

first comm tour in a while that ive 100%ed

rare creek
#

best mod ever

velvet raft
velvet raft
rare creek
#

only a spoonful

rare creek
#

the map changed and now it's csgo gun game??

left sand
#

wtf

rare creek
#

this is the wackiest server ive ever played on

jagged pawn
#

LMAOOOO

#

most compliant quickplay server

rare creek
#

it's not a quickplay server

#

i joined through the server list

jagged pawn
#

oh then your fault

rare creek
#

obviously these maps arent allowed on quickplay lol

#

it's actually really funny so i added it to my server favorites

turbid hill
tough locust
#

tf2 just did the bi-yearly wipe of my favorites list for no goddamn reason

high current
#

I played a similar tf2-csgo modded server back in like 2018 or something. But you got your class and then you got to buy TF2 weapons from the buy menu. So you could be a scout with a sniper on dust 2 for example. It was actually a great time.

summer steeple
broken haven
spring kestrel
rare creek
spring kestrel
#

incredibly niche question, but how do I properly compile animations on linux?

#

given the lack of studiomdl.exe

rare creek
#

that crowbar thing that everyone uses or that horse viewmodel thing can probly do it

potent wolf
#

pretty sure you'll still need wine for that

rare creek
#

#programmingđŸ’» message

spring kestrel
#

eh nvm I'll figure it out

spring kestrel
spring kestrel
#

got crowbar and the likes working

#

however

#

this happened again

#

could anyone explain why this happens

high current
#

What’s happening?

spring kestrel
#

the models are just stuck unmoving tethered to the top of the screen

small sirenBOT
#

*the models are just

stuck unmoving tethered to

the top of the screen*

rare creek
#

linux

hoary geyser
#

the custom map embargo is really cool

rare creek
#

ya

spring kestrel
rare creek
#

schizophrenia

velvet raft
#

do you guys have heard of a game called Team Fortress 2?

wild grove
#

Oh that game is a overwatch clone for fat demented grandpas.

rare creek
#

THE MONTY MOLE INFESTATION HAS ABSOLUTELY RUINED THIS GAME

#

valve please ban the monty moles or fix valve anti mole 😡

left sand
summer steeple
#

its interesting cause like we knew they had been working on it on and off for years

#

but the fact that jay was like "yeah here's a sneak peak"

#

is pretty interesting

summer steeple
#

although does jay really have a gmail address and not a valve software one?

rare creek
#

HUGE

unborn pecan
#

this is so cool

spring kestrel
spring kestrel
#

however interestingly

#

pyro's left hand isn't visible

formal dew
#

god in heaven

#

chat is this real

wild grove
#

anything but confirmed

jagged pawn
tough locust
#

only thing that seems sus is the email not being shown, if it's public why is it hidden

jagged pawn
#

it's the email of the person who wrote to jay that's hidden

#

jay's is in the screenshot

tough locust
#

seems fake i thought the script was finished back in 2017 and also he's been gone from valve for like 7? years now and the script says that it was drafted 6/15/24

#

on second look this has got to be fake, the panel looks super faithful to the official art but chances are this is just from the fan remake or some old unused panel (like the one where demoman injects himself with moonshine)

jagged pawn
#

alright man

tough locust
#

also why would the script be talking about issue 6 when they made issue 6 seems random

velvet raft
rare creek
#

"chatgpt, generate me comic panels in the style of the tf2 comics"

tough locust
#

nothing ever happens im saying it's fake because there's a tweet from jay pinkerton stating that the script has been done for years

high current
#

That'd also be the most casual potential leak of content in a long time... And after such substantial leaks of Valve's new game I cant even remember the name of, it is sus

tough locust
velvet raft
high current
#

Script being done and script being through revisions is one thing. But yeh ima gamble on fake and stinky

jagged pawn
#

shounic claims that the leaker personally screenshared the email to him and he buys it. on the one hand he probably should've asked for the cert but on the other hand he would be insane to risk his reputation on this

fleet kite
#

My hilarious joke disappeared, I am shattered

orchid sorrel
rare creek
#

cw: flashing texture
bruh this mat_forcedynamic cvar funny

#

u have to be in pyroland for this to happen for some reason

spare obsidian
high current
#

Either way it’s neat to know that it’s legit and coming soonâ„ąïž. The first panels we see just make me think it’d be a perfect time to add that fossil themed map by UEAK Crash.

soft lynx
#

looking at Erik's reaction, it doesn't seem to have been met with complete disdain for their actions

#

Also calling it a "sneak peak" instead of just calling "leaked progress on the 7th comic" makes it seem even less likely to be done on ill will

cursive peak
#

3 variant covers implies a physical release.

slender nexus
#

im buying :3

soft lynx
#

please no, i already paid 100 bucks for the bg3 deluxe edition

cursive peak
#

Physical single issue comics usually aren't that expensive.

small sirenBOT
#

*Physical single

issue comics usually

aren't that expensive.*

soft lynx
#

shipping them over to the EU will be lol

#

especially with whatever I'll have to pay toll on top

cursive peak
#

It'll no doubt be free in digital form on the site.

#

Valve has released print editions of comics before.

slender nexus
#

We did it reddit! We caught the Boston bomber!

grim parcel
#

ladies and gentlemann

#

we got em

tough locust
jagged pawn
#

lmfaooo of course he's trying to take credit

#

this was a vanity project the whole time

spare obsidian
#

told you

jagged pawn
#

I mean I already knew but it's funny how blatant he's being now

heavy solarBOT
#

@jagged pawn has earned the Level 3 role!

next nymph
#

conspiracy theory: #fixtf2 was intentionally timed just before valve was gonna do banwaves anyway

spare obsidian
spare obsidian
#

where #FixTF2 had influence or no is up to debate

cursive peak
#

I do kinda wonder if 64 bit, the ban waves, and the summer update were all planned to happen together.

spare obsidian
#

if i have to guess yes

summer steeple
#

we know 64bit was pushed early with the objector fixes

eternal haven
#

Was that actually said anywhere

#

I can't remember

summer steeple
#

I think joshie straight up said it

jagged pawn
#

yeah lol

eternal haven
#

Yeah in a github issue or something

#

sounds familiar

summer steeple
#

and considering the fact that the only update between january and now was the 64bit update (and a hotfix update a couple days later)

#

I think at the very least summer update and 64bit were supposed to be the same update

jagged pawn
#

summer 2024 was most likely meant to be the big bug fix update. not a lot of new content, just a lot of quality of life changes

#

but they ended up releasing early lol

summer steeple
#

but because of how valve's packaging works, it was already pushed to staging, so when staging got pushed to live, the 64bit update got pushed with the objector fix

spare obsidian
#

i mean is valve time we're talking about "summer" update can like two months after summer

summer steeple
#

because its easier to just push like that than it is to remove 64bit from staging just to add the objector fix

#

especially because the objector fix might've relied on some changes from 64bit

cursive peak
#

Just imagine a world where the GC went down, the summer update dropped with 64 bit and a ton of quality of life/bugfixes, and the ban waves spread across the bots, and then they also added a "Bee tee dubs, the next comic is coming, too."

summer steeple
#

that would be pretty huge

#

but instead being spread out has kinda weakened all of them

jagged pawn
#

I agree purely from a news cycle perspective but idk I'm pretty equally hyped for all this

#

it feels like 2017 again

eternal haven
#

I think they will have quite a few bug fixes in the next update

#

Joshie was responding to bug reports for a bit

rare creek
#

all sv_pure bypasses patched out trollfig

misty plover
jagged pawn
#

LOL

#

wait no he didn't he just retweeted it

spare obsidian
#

LOL

jagged pawn
#

I almost got trolled

mystic turtle
#

ya good, we all have moments of denseness

#

anyways, I'll be frank, I couldn't give much of a crap about all of the new TF2 stuff coming up
I'll enjoy all the new stuff while it lasts but I know this is just a small oasis in the middle of the desert

#

hopefully the new maps that come out this summer are good, at least

jagged pawn
#

bro doesn't care about the comic

velvet raft
mystic turtle
#

[cue doomer rant about how the community will be expecting Valve to drop something major after this year when they get nothing, and they'll go #repairtf2 or some shit idk]

tacit flare
#

I hope everyone is ready for the corpse carrier Mk2. Now with extra heads.

#

Slap a certified Valve Momentâ„ąïž on it and call it a day.

tough locust
wild grove
#

lmao my prediction of 1 day after the summer sale is coming into fruition

rare creek
#

how do you have fun as engineer

#

he is the worst class in tf2 by far

unborn pecan
#

mean heavy

#

heavy is the worst

rare creek
#

no

mystic turtle
rare creek
#

heavy is way more fun

#

engineer is liek

unborn pecan
#

:\

rare creek
#

sisyphus

unborn pecan
#

Hard disagree

mystic turtle
#

also, seriously
Heavy is fun as shit if you can just hide

tacit flare
rare creek
#

every time i play heavy i get a k/d of like 3 and top score he is very fun

mystic turtle
#

look at my kd
with Scout it's 1:1
with heavy, even in more open maps like payload — yeah I can say the same as Astolfo here

rare creek
#

every time i play engineer i want to fucking kill myself

small sirenBOT
#

*every time i

play engineer i want to

fucking kill myself*

mystic turtle
#

tbf, Engie barely gets any points, unless you play battle engie

tacit flare
mystic turtle
#

I'd ask my little bro about that, he specializes in the art of mini-sentry usage and he's pretty decent at it, maybe he gets something I don't

cursive peak
rare creek
#

i just dont fucking get it i would just so much would be rather playing scout or heavy thjan repeatedly rebuild my sentry only to have it do literally nothing and get destroyed

cursive peak
#

A classic from the art of battle engie.

rare creek
#

why not just play scout

#

u r just scout but with none of the upsides of scout

mystic turtle
# rare creek why not just play scout

even tho I still haven't refined my engineer, like, my. scout. just. dies.
he goes out to get one pick and then gets fragged by some sweatyass sniper or soldier
and then completely gets invalidated by the existence of a single sentry

rare creek
#

sisyphus ass class

rare creek
mystic turtle
#

hm, perhaps
all I can say is, the only thing I can think of at this point is sentry jumping on some maps to get crazy stock sentry setups

#

like having a sentry+teleporter on the roof of that one building after the curve after badwater 4th

#

but then again I barely play engineer unless my team isn't running one so

#

yea

potent wolf
#

are you actually complaining about your sentry being destroyed by an ubered heavy

rare creek
#

yes

#

because if i was just playing heavy i wouldnt have been destroyed

#

and i would have that "level 3 sentry" instantly instead of having to build it

#

he just fucking sucks man

rare creek
#

i hate engineer

unborn pecan
#

ok

rare creek
#

playing as him

#

playing against him

unborn pecan
#

yeah ok

jagged pawn
#

ok

rare creek
#

the only time he's good is when he's on your team and you are being healed by his dispenser...

jagged pawn
#

ok

unborn pecan
#

okay

rare creek
#

every other time he's unfun

unborn pecan
#

ok

jagged pawn
#

alright

unborn pecan
rare creek
#

ig he's also good when you have him in the intelligence room on 2for

mystic turtle
#

tbf there's little you can do against an uber outside of stalling with wrangler and hoping your team is competent enough
if you have a certain breed of low-skill player like me/fresh install pyro, you'll be thankful when you see a pyro doing an airblast spam sac to at least deny the uber a bit longer

#

or a genius demo sending the uber into the stratosphere with a sticky trap

rare creek
#

everyone just says battle engineer or gunslinger or whatever is the only way to have fun as engineer why did valve design base regular defense engineer to be so fucking bad

mystic turtle
#

because that was his purpose, though? some people prefer hard stall defense, and that's what engie provides

#

and let's be honest, it's already hard enough to take out one Level 3 without team coordination unless the sentry spot is bad

#

idk tho, I gotta go do things, so seeya I guess

#

good luck

unborn pecan
#

Getting your stuff destroyed is a part of the design

#

It's a cycle

rare creek
#

graaaaa

unborn pecan
#

Ubers are meant to destroy blocks like engineer

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

rare creek
#

why playing medic is so much better...

spring kestrel
# rare creek

I want to make a "they turned tf2 into overwatch" joke about your particles

summer steeple
#

i feel like if you're playing engi just to get kills with your level 3 sentry you don't have the right mindset for playing engi

jagged pawn
#

guys why can't I frag with the cool big gun 😡

rare creek
#

is that not how are you supposed to play engineer

velvet raft
unborn pecan
#

The focus should be more on the fact you're more of a support class

#

With telepoetation, cover provided by sentry, and dispenser

#

The engineer is the ultimate team support class

spare obsidian
#

the minisentry:

rare creek
#

mastercomfig vac ban confirmed

potent wolf
#

thats not a vac ban afaik

eternal haven
#

I think Astolfos joking

potent wolf
#

i'm aware, but it would have been much funnier if they actually got vac banned

summer steeple
eternal haven
#

You can)

#

Free vac and you know

rare creek
#

if valve adds embargo to tf2 i will :3

jagged pawn
#

me when the anal bead vibrates, informing me that I should move my bishop

jagged pawn
rare creek
#

0 populated uncletopia servers in USA

#

the 2 people in the "us east" server is actually 2 people in one thousand uncles in canada

rare creek
#

there is no populated community "casual" servers at all in my area

jagged pawn
#

ok

fleet kite
summer steeple
#

who tf is playing tf2 at those times in the US

tough locust
#

no update this week 😱

proper tangle
#

what

#

who told you that

#

I want names

wild grove
#

It could still be today, but it's more likely tomorrow, or next week.

tough locust
#

they never drop on fridays bc they need a day for hotfixes

small sirenBOT
#

*they never drop on

fridays bc they need a

day for hotfixes*

velvet raft
wild grove
tough locust
radiant merlin
rare creek
#

easter egg on rotunda

wild grove
#

Those particles are trippy af

mystic turtle
# rare creek

how many dummies are you surrounded by, fr it seems as though they're just standing there and taking the flamethrower

rare creek
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story of my life on discord

mystic turtle
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man

rare creek
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imaginary friend party :)

rare creek
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is thewhat show an industry plant

tough locust
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which industry

rare creek
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builder's league united

glass musk
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sorry for ping but need quick help @summer steeple gonna update mastercomfig but if I use direct install with default settings will it override my current custom settings from previous mastercomfig install or do I need to pick the customizations again?

summer steeple
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I'm not sure, I would make sure that you backup your customizations just in case, and then double check once the install is done

glass musk
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hm

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I got it

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thanks for the help

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I just kept modules folder

left sand
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it remembers your customizations on the browser if you set them there

glass musk
tough locust
high current
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The community crossover between drg and tf2 is pretty substantial tbh

velvet raft
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nom

rare creek
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does heavy need to be nerfed?

orchid sorrel
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yup

wild grove
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I actually had a blast

orchid sorrel
summer steeple
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on a semi-related note, I was playing with some friends last night and the custom music didn't play for them (it did for me), any ideas as to why that might happen?

orchid sorrel
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might not have downloaded properly, or they have music turned off maybe

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what mission

summer steeple
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Mud on the map Lotus

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they def didn't have music turned off

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cause they could hear regular MVM music

orchid sorrel
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hmm

velvet raft
tough locust
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just realized that on the original post for the summer 2023 update you can literally see where they copy-pasted the description from the other updates and forgot to hold ctrl

jagged pawn
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that's not what it is

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it is a typo but it's a formatting error for the bullet points

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notice that there's no bullet

velvet raft
sterile ferry
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what are monitors in the effects quality

wild grove
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you know the versus saxton hale map Skirmish? in that map, you can go to a security room that has working monitors, using a lower quality disables em from working.

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this will also apply to other maps using this feature.

jagged pawn
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had no idea the monitors work lmao guess I'm turning my settings up now

rare creek
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sad that valve fully patched out the ability to apply colored decals in the 64 bit update

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awesome flamethrower name steamhapp

wild grove
rare creek
kind falcon
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thanks for an app idea niterux

rare creek
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what

rare creek
kind falcon
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app

glass musk
#

app

misty plover
spare obsidian
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i guess the paper printings and the sending them to valve was the friends made along the way

summer steeple
eternal haven
summer steeple
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vscript update was really 2022
 wtf

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december i guess

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but still

rare creek
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isnt monitors just an rtcamera

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why would that need vscript that has been functionality since half life 2

tough locust
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it doesnt its just added in the same update

rare creek
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lol

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can they add ladder support next

left sand
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theres vscript ladders i think

summer steeple
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there are but its by like

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forcing the player into the swimming state

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or condition rather

radiant merlin
rare creek
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nerd

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they are right but nerd

velvet raft
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is it fun?

rare creek
rare creek
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am i doing good as a scout player?

kind falcon
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monika (real)