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#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year
crisp cedar
crisp cedar
whenever the chance comes
crisp cedar
can i borrow 5 racks
5 racks?
slender nexus
everyone in this chat give me 5 billion dollars
languid haven
he means server racks. i think they're making a gpu farm joke
burnt dragon
I mean since 64 bit beta is out
crisp cedar
youre making me sleepy at 8 pm
burnt dragon
I thought maybe theres one made by someone
slender nexus
good get some rest
next nymph
everyone in this chat give me 5 billion dollars
check your paypal
crisp cedar
no
slender nexus
honey
burnt dragon
maybe sbox will be better after 9th rewrite :D
crisp cedar
dont invest into sbox stocks. trust me.
kind falcon
dont invest into sbox stocks. trust me.
i
crisp cedar
facepunch stocks. they going down.
kind falcon
nvest in . rust
languid haven
I mean since 64 bit beta is out
true but not many even pay attention or seem to care even though most complaints is bots and bug fixes
burnt dragon
dont invest into sbox stocks. trust me.
sbox 
crisp cedar
sbox aint got shit trust me
slender nexus
don't invest in sbox stocks their health insurance covers boybortions‼️
burnt dragon
I worked so much on a DOOM style game, ended up getting wrecked by sbox updates and their buggy engine
wish I made it in cs2
next nymph
sampersandbox in May 2024
languid haven
they dont even support porting to other source 2 versions
yeah
crisp cedar
source 2 just isnt ready
languid haven
source 2 just isnt ready
it has 3 games yet isn't ready?
crisp cedar
yeah
kind falcon
maybe 4
burnt dragon
yeah
I got shit on for 2 days non stop because I was trying to figure out source 2 tools by porting some stuff from source 1
crisp cedar
i think 6
burnt dragon
every part of sbox hurts my soul
languid haven
dude wayland isn't ready. valve is sitting on source 2.
next nymph
you can play cookie clicker via web browser panel in s&box. So thats 7
burnt dragon
I did end up finishing porting otis from blue shift remake :P it had black eyes tho and no one tried to help me lol
crisp cedar
valve is not sitting on source 2
they havent finished it
there are long term plans
burnt dragon
they havent finished it
it will take a decade to be as fleshed as source 1 lol
this applied to source 1 as well
old source 1 jank is very real
next nymph
im waiting for source 2 episode 1
languid haven
they havent finished it
theey haven't finished sfm too. that shit is still in beta with no updates and to get s2fm you have to buy a game!
crisp cedar
they feel comfortable shipping products on source 2 because they dont work on source 1 anymore
all their work is pretty much on source 2, game engine wise
borrowed code
burnt dragon
theey haven't finished sfm too. that shit is still in beta with no updates and t...
sfm is at least somewhat working
crisp cedar
unfinished tools
burnt dragon
source 2 filmmaker is a... dumpster fire
languid haven
"game engine not ready but has made 6 games and a animation maker with it" oh yeah NOT FINISHED AT ALL
burnt dragon
"game engine not ready but has made 6 games and a animation maker with it" oh ye...
its not ready for public use
burnt dragon
their devs will improve and tweak it as needed anyway
languid haven
its not ready for public use
it never will, none of of it ever was.
languid haven
have you seen hammer?
burnt dragon
have you seen hammer?
hammer ++ UwU
burnt dragon
oh source 2 hammer is great cant whine about that lol
crisp cedar
almost like its not finished
burnt dragon
haha probably yes
crisp cedar
yet again when is work done
burnt dragon
question, is counter strike 2 compiled in a way that cant be modified
languid haven
oh source 2 hammer is great cant whine about that lol
no i meant source 1, i don't think anything valve has can be claimed as finished except for maybe halflife and portal games.
burnt dragon
no i meant source 1, i don't think anything valve has can be claimed as finished...
hammer++ is great imo
crisp cedar
question, is counter strike 2 compiled in a way that cant be modified
in what way
burnt dragon
it has some jank
crisp cedar
not currently really i think
burnt dragon
or do we need s2dk
languid haven
hammer++ is great imo
yeah true but i can't figure out how to use vscript with it.
burnt dragon
which wont exist unless sbox stops fucking up
burnt dragon
yeah true but i can't figure out how to use vscript with it.
no ideas sorry
languid haven
and hammer++ isn't by valve.
burnt dragon
which wont exist unless sbox stops fucking up
I have hopes for that tho :p
burnt dragon
and hammer++ isn't by valve.
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... it workssss
crisp cedar
i thought they might try to add an arcade to cs2 like they did for dota 2 (creating custom games) but i guess thatd be much to ask for
yknow
streamlining community mods or whatever
languid haven
i thought they might try to add an arcade to cs2 like they did for dota 2 (creat...
the game is for comp, not casual.
burnt dragon
i thought they might try to add an arcade to cs2 like they did for dota 2 (creat...
they literally removed content to release cs2 lol
I dont think they would do that
s2dk might be a thing in like 5 years
crisp cedar
they didnt remove anything
burnt dragon
but me getting to play games on it by others will be another 10 years
next nymph
no i meant source 1, i don't think anything valve has can be claimed as finished...
support for the steam machine
burnt dragon
they didnt remove anything
2 gamemodes and 30-40 maps literally vanished
languid haven
support for the steam machine
that too but it was a great sacrifice for the steam deck.
crisp cedar
they didnt remove anything
burnt dragon
they recently added p2p playing lol
well they removed csgo
and placed cs2 in its place
burnt dragon
with no servers
languid haven
they recently added p2p playing lol
is it safe?
burnt dragon
is it safe?
I mean its for playing with your friends in a private map
languid haven
fair
burnt dragon
I miss csgo sometimes
theres been several times that I literally saw blood on my enemys face
and it didnt count the hit lmao
NUH UH YOU DIDNT HIT! THATS NOT BLOOD ITS SMUDGE ON THE LENS!
crisp cedar
what you see is what you get
next nymph
when you play dota underlords and you try out the puzzle matches in their city crawl thinger, they revert back to a previous version of balance (including heroes that were cycled out or alliances that no longer exist) so that the puzzle doesn't have to change. Woulda been swage if cs2 did that with csgo maps, but obviously that would've been a technical nightmare keeping an entirely different game there
slender nexus
what you see is what you get
burnt dragon
the problem then would be cs players shitting themselves as usual
small sirenBOT
burnt dragon
they just need a reason to do so anyway
burnt dragon
the problem then would be cs players shitting themselves as usual
WHY BIGGER GAME IF YOU WILL INCLUDE SAME MAPS ANYWAYS???
crisp cedar
as most videogame fans would
burnt dragon
next nymph
woulda been swage if cs2 meant if you die in csgo you die in real life
burnt dragon
as most videogame fans would
I get happy when they add a cool skin to a weapon in tf2
languid haven
I miss csgo sometimes
was hoping to play knowing the sweats would go to CS2 but they fucking ruined it by replacing CS:GO
burnt dragon
theres no way it can get any worse for this place lol
burnt dragon
was hoping to play knowing the sweats would go to CS2 but they fucking ruined it...
I learn it by playing in lower ranks
so only the most sweatiest
most annoying
most screaming smurfs enter
burnt dragon
just play arms race or deathmatch
arms race sucks so much lol
crisp cedar
dont recommend.
next nymph
play with bots
languid haven
too late, game gone
burnt dragon
I want my xp and cases tbh
crisp cedar
ok
burnt dragon
I play with my aunt and her friends, works out fine for the most part
languid haven
i know it's under beta branch but you think i'll download 1 game to download another game? that'd be fucking stupid.
crisp cedar
have fun looking into the sky at the exact angle, the exact position and time the grenade throw with your jump so you can blind a guy for 2 seconds on the other side of the map
cs players love that trick
burnt dragon
you know what I love instead?
languid haven
cs players love that trick
turn around?
burnt dragon
getting headshot with a damn shotgun across a hall
crisp cedar
i know it's under beta branch but you think i'll download 1 game to download ano...
just
toggle
the branch
before installing
oh sry
this one
burnt dragon
thank god tf2 doesnt have headshots
next nymph
cs players love that trick
the trick is to get headshots. headshots are very important.
burnt dragon
the trick is to get headshots. headshots are very important.
dont you love people headshotting across the map using the shittiest gun in the weapon
burnt dragon
https://tenor.com/view/tf2-sniper-what-confused-wtf-gif-19559981
the only part its implemented is the most hated part of the game
tells a lot huh
next nymph
my most hated part of the game is the players
languid haven
the only part its implemented is the most hated part of the game
there's also the ambassador
burnt dragon
there's also the ambassador
ambassador got nerfed a lot at least
it was also extremely hated before lol
burnt dragon
my most hated part of the game is the players
I mostly play tf2c since last year
theres few new videos released of it
so theres always 4 eu servers full
its mostly chill pubstomper people so always fun to play
languid haven
ambassador got nerfed a lot at least
102 damage from a pistol is still massive
burnt dragon
102 damage from a pistol is still massive
I mean only 1/100 spies know their gun exists
let alone remembering to use it close to an enemy lol
languid haven
8/10 know to shoot me instead of go for a stab.
burnt dragon
unlucky
or you look behind too much
I always look behind and scream SPY
whole team turns around since its a medic screaming :p
languid haven
i can hear them, their foot steps, cloak and the fact they rub against me like a man in a prison shower.
burnt dragon
lmao
yeahhhh
tf2c is the way to go nowadays for me
no ambassy
sniper rifle gets a bullet trail so you see where the sniper is
has a short bald man... to make fun of of course
it has everything I need
languid haven
i prefer tf2 and custom weapons servers on tf2c are just mediocre now that tf2c has nothing interesting anymore to me.
i'd rather play tf2 with armor.
tough locust
nvm it was on shounic's server
vip mode but the vip has a tommy gun and is like 10 feet tall
jagged pawn
what the hell
languid haven
i think a mob boss would be much cooler than the tf2c civ.
small sirenBOT
tough locust
i think a mob boss would be much cooler than the tf2c civ.
the only reason i dont fw VIP is because i dont like the tf2c civilian hes just so lame
awesome cool mob boss would fix this
rare creek
?
zealous pond
Because every other FPS made in the past decade that lasted more than a few months without dying is hot garbage.
crisp cedar
its not gonna be tf2.
left sand
sfm is at least somewhat working
whats wrong with it?
slender nexus
bro keep it to <#848897464077647882>
whar is this
languid haven
sfm is at least somewhat working
crashes too much to be worth it and this is excluding the use of proton to use it.
unborn pecan
crashes too much to be worth it and this is excluding the use of proton to use i...
I've used SFM with proton before
languid haven
I've used SFM with proton before
which version cause 9 and exp crashes when loading a map. or more so freezes but still keeps using cpu for well over an hour.
worked ok on 6 but i like the performance 9 has.
languid haven
how old of a version off tf2 can someone load up?
summer steeple
you should be able to run just about all of them, at least on windows
there probably aren't any servers, and the game would stop you from connecting to current ones
but it probably would run
coarse spruce
Welp, it happened
summer steeple
oh shit
languid haven
huh
potent wolf
nice
coarse spruce
tf2 64bit is now public
summer steeple
its happened 🥳
languid haven
UUUUUHWHA
summer steeple
64x tf2 REAL
languid haven
launching steam now
cursive peak
languid haven
I need to play full graphics!!!!
jagged pawn
64 BIT REAL
summer steeple
@limpid panther when you're free, 64bit tf2 is now real(released) for benchmarking
livid oracle
<@132103076269129728> when you're free, 64bit tf2 is now real(released) for benc...
wait what
is it the default now
livid oracle
oh thats weird
summer steeple
I think
crisp cedar
- Added 64-bit support for Windows/Linux client and server
- Should include performance improvements for most users
- Fixed an exploit related to uploading invalid custom decals that would crash other clients
livid oracle
oh i think
languid haven
guy quick what's the best settings for TF2?!!!
languid haven
fuck kwin crashed again
livid oracle
a lot of games do that
languid haven
and downloads 32-bit if it doesnt
i love that
summer steeple
I honestly expected them to kill x32 altogether
but I guess if they can still build for both there is no reason to
languid haven
I honestly expected them to kill x32 altogether
they don't have to but 64bit is huge
summer steeple
well in theory killing x32 would allow them to raise some limits
because they wouldn't have to worry about the 4GB ram limit
livid oracle
i didnt say that that's what theyre doing i just said that i think that
small sirenBOT
livid oracle
i guess can just check steamdb to find out
coarse spruce
I've been playing on casual with 64bit for months now lol (inb4vac)
summer steeple
my steam doesn't show an update yet but steamdb shows tf2.exe and tf2_64.exe
proper tangle
Its time gentlemen
summer steeple
so I assume it just downloads both
proper tangle
Its here
livid oracle
my steam doesn't show an update yet but steamdb shows tf2.exe and tf2_64.exe
huh theyre not separate downloads?
summer steeple
its in the same depot
livid oracle
oh wtf
livid oracle
are you on linux
jagged pawn
yeah yeah solution use windows heehaw
proper tangle
No
livid oracle
i hope i dont have to fix up my run script much lmao
coarse spruce
lol it crashes on boot for me
I mean it does use Vulkan now instead of OpenGL..
coarse spruce
I also assumed everyone here had already tried the 64bit beta, surprised at the reactions lol
languid haven
guys what's the command to unrestrict textures?
summer steeple
I actually never did lol
potent wolf
lol the mac build is still the original one from the start of the beta
languid haven
lol the mac build is still the original one from the start of the beta
because it isn't worth it
coarse spruce
I wonder if our feline hooking friends have already updated their stuff for 64bit :/
potent wolf
it's just funny that they didn't delete/hide the depot or something
languid haven
dude wtf mastercomms direct download deleted my fucking auto exec!!!
summer steeple
hammer++ is broken lol
potent wolf
or do you mean for mac
mac
summer steeple
ah
formal dew
Yooo
languid haven
or do you mean for mac
mac
summer steeple
trolled
formal dew
Does the new live build have more CPU requirements
spare obsidian
idk ask furcool
potent wolf
you need a cpu from like the last 10 years
left sand
dude wtf mastercomms direct download deleted my fucking auto exec!!!
what autoexec do you use
formal dew
if I need sse2 to play games I will never forgive valve
languid haven
what autoexec do you use
the one in cfg/app it worked fine with it but the direct download del-....wait
ok my customs folder is fine
unborn pecan
wait is it live live
left sand
yeah why are you editing the APP specific one
summer steeple
this is why we say to put autoexec in cfg/overrides, the point of the app folder is that it'll get overwritten by the app
left sand
use overrides
languid haven
use overrides
i thought they worked the same, seemed to have worked the same
summer steeple
summer steeple
i thought they worked the same, seemed to have worked the same
functionally they are the same, but the app folder gets overwritten by the app and overrides doesn't
summer steeple
I don't know how to feel about them
feel bad
languid haven
functionally they are the same, but the app folder gets overwritten by the app a...
oh, well that's ok cause i just used it for binds
unborn pecan
@left sand Should I disable the opengl module on vulkan now?
languid haven
but now they're gone, at least i sent my q to auto swing on my bf's discord server
formal dew
update replaced some legacy steam datagram strings with current ones
small sirenBOT
languid haven
<@115180582845153282> Should I disable the opengl module on vulkan now?
that's a good question
jagged pawn
is it possible that the libtcmalloc issue is still relevant or is there something else wrong
potent wolf
something else
unborn pecan
is it possible that the libtcmalloc issue is still relevant or is there somethin...
tcmalloc is jank all the time
jagged pawn
right but I'm saying my game doesn't boot rn potassium lol
potent wolf
DXVK IS A SEPERATE DLL
that's how it's been the entire time
lean cove
- Fixed an exploit related to uploading invalid custom decals that would crash other clients
shouldn't tcmalloc be ok now?
craggy ridge
YOOOOO i can have the little guy now
lean cove
or was there a diff issue
potent wolf
tcmalloc is gone now
craggy ridge
it won't eat my fps
jagged pawn
I am going to hit my computer with hammers until the game boots
potent wolf
restart steam
lean cove
is that good or bad actually
unborn pecan
didn't they replace it
summer steeple
so many longs turned into ints
jagged pawn
LMAO
unborn pecan
with jmalloc?
summer steeple
its beautiful
craggy ridge
YOOOOO i can have the little guy now
i'm not too sure if i wanna keep it because it's a bit distracting
potent wolf
mimalloc
lean cove
oh then good
jagged pawn
I'm glad they tested this
craggy ridge
also I had no idea you could stand on there
lean cove
I was thinking that just glibc malloc wasn't so great either
unborn pecan
I got no reason to have 32bit tcmalloc install on my system
lean cove
for their usage
potent wolf
using glibc malloc is a truly terrible idea
jagged pawn
I'm just gonna reboot and see if that helps because idk what else to do lol brb
unborn pecan
run steam in console
proper tangle
Just re do it in rust
unborn pecan
to see what the issue is
summer steeple
i wonder what all this means
unborn pecan
do y'all know if
summer steeple
I assume just backend stuff
unborn pecan
what is teh flag on linux
summer steeple
opengl is behind a launch option for legacy
potent wolf
i wonder what all this means
updated steamapi stuff, presumably
spare obsidian
in windows is -vulkan
summer steeple
-gl to use opengl on linux
unborn pecan
the end times r here
limpid panther
<@132103076269129728> when you're free, 64bit tf2 is now real(released) for benc...
wtfffff
outta nowhere
summer steeple
they might've added an option for it on launch idk
potent wolf
no sdl3 
summer steeple
trolled
potent wolf
it's using the runtime sdl2 now
languid haven
how's mat_picmip -10?
summer steeple
idk it was fine on x32
unborn pecan
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/948738175998758912.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=funkeDespair
NOT A CONTAINER
summer steeple
unless you used mac lol
potent wolf
sniper!
summer steeple
oh yeah there it is
jagged pawn
yeah I've tried both and neither works for me lmao
unborn pecan
FATAL: It appears tf was not launched within the Steam for Linux sniper runtime environment.
FATAL: Please consult documentation to ensure correct configuration, aborting.
huge
potent wolf
forgot to set the runtime
languid haven
```
FATAL: It appears tf was not launched within the Steam for Linux sniper runt...
same
unborn pecan
yeah that has to be done through steam manually
potent wolf
you can still launch it manually
potent wolf
~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/run.sh ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_sniper/run -- ./tf.sh
unborn pecan
in order to force steam sniper or whatever
languid haven
64bit beta seemed fine and i'm running native
unborn pecan
i am about to run super native
left sand
better headphones support
coarse spruce
yeah the 64bit beta launched fine fwiw
languid haven
gonna verify integrity to check
potent wolf
frogs have been printed
left sand
unborn pecan
FROGGY
left sand
left sand
unborn pecan
or did they take waht they learned with the steam audio sdk and apply it to source?
wait
isn't this from cs:go?
unborn pecan
ah okay
left sand
but it seems to suggest a unified sound system between linux and windows
which is really nice
languid haven
i think its a very basic hrtf
tf2 had flawed hrtf. it seemed to work like a 2d disc
unborn pecan
was it not like that before?
left sand
no tf2 doesnt use openal
left sand
also the hrtf is different now
languid haven
it is, even my phone has atmos
left sand
jagged pawn
~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/run.sh ~/.local/share/Steam/steam...
I may be stupid but
Failed to execute child process "./tf.sh" (No such file or directory)
unborn pecan
I may be stupid but
`Failed to execute child process "./tf.sh" (No such file or ...
well
languid haven
and dtx 3d surround
unborn pecan
you probably don't have tf2 installed there
potent wolf
I may be stupid but
`Failed to execute child process "./tf.sh" (No such file or ...
cd to the tf2 game files
jagged pawn
oh I see
summer steeple
rawinput enabled by default!
unborn pecan
swag?
jagged pawn
YOOOOOOOOO
summer steeple
MVM commands made not dev only???
languid haven
hey would using steam runtime be better than native? like would tf2 atually run?
potent wolf
tf2 probably won't run outside of the runtime anymore
unborn pecan
languid haven
f f why is the italic f look like the old flash logo?
craggy ridge
f *f* why is the italic f look like the old flash logo?
i don't think that's the italic f
languid haven
tf2 probably won't run outside of the runtime anymore
oh well
languid haven
i don't think that's the italic f
use * to surround words to check for yourself
lean cove
tf2 probably won't run outside of the runtime anymore
2 people saddened
languid haven
guys what the tuna is this
a font?
potent wolf
cool, i've already managed to crash the game
languid haven
this dxvk version is one minor version behind
i mean there was a native version you coukd install but it hasn't had an update since 2022
unborn pecan
Did font rendering on linux change? or do I have bad eyes
potent wolf
it changed
next nymph
MVM commands made not dev only???
did they make testhudanim not require cheats
heavy solarBOT
@next nymph has leveled up! (74 ➜ 75)
summer steeple
did they make testhudanim not require cheats
no
languid haven
not a nerf, it's a jungle inferno regression.
jagged pawn
they never fixed this btw it's in the live version today apparently https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1awb9m3/airblast_nerf_in_x64/
languid haven
they never fixed this btw it's in the live version today apparently https://www....
awwwwww but i liked it that way
void slate
languid haven
I gotta uncap my fps
try mat_picmip -10
unborn pecan
that's stupid
summer steeple
they never fixed this btw it's in the live version today apparently https://www....
trolled by actually spherical sphere check
unborn pecan
isn't that an sv cheat thing
summer steeple
no
craggy ridge
console looks so clean
i didn't even notice
next nymph
try fps_min 1000
unborn pecan
It's so good
Using shader api: shaderapivk
info: Game: tf_linux64
info: DXVK: v2.3
info: Vulkan: Found vkGetInstanceProcAddr in libvulkan.so.1 @ 0x7db135196b80
info: Built-in extension providers:
info: SDL2 WSI
info: Enabled instance extensions:
info: VK_EXT_surface_maintenance1
info: VK_KHR_get_surface_capabilities2
info: VK_KHR_surface
info: VK_KHR_xlib_surface
info: D3D9: VK_FORMAT_D24_UNORM_S8_UINT -> VK_FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT_S8_UINT
info: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (RADV NAVI21):
GRR
dxvk 2.3.1 is out
blazing cloud
so how do I force tf2 to run inside runtime exactly? never had to do specifically that before today.
i have no clue
languid haven
yeah tf2 is broken for a lot of people
rare creek
shut UP bro
languid haven
so how do I force tf2 to run inside runtime exactly? never had to do specificall...
don't bother, doesn't work
lean cove
OR are these fonts looking different now
real
potent wolf
so how do I force tf2 to run inside runtime exactly? never had to do specificall...
#1072696252162117752 message inside the tf2 game dir, but it'll probably be fixed soon
livid oracle
@left sand btw out of curiosity do you know what optimisations made it into the 64-bit version
unborn pecan
CAT EMOJI
lean cove
i remember you could mess with the fontconfig for tf2 to get them working before
livid oracle
or is it like too many to list
summer steeple
windows users get fucked
unborn pecan
owned
summer steeple
:(
unborn pecan
:)
lean cove
except on windows <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
is macos back ??
unborn pecan
lol no
potent wolf
no lol
lean cove
yeah i would be very surprised
unborn pecan
Maybe it will run better now on wine
unborn pecan
with 64bit update?
lean cove
also i dont play on mac
lean cove
but they shipped an old broken version in the depot <:trollfig:93815444248477711...
how old
potent wolf
first version of the 64bit beta
summer steeple
before joshie gave up on mac
lean cove
LOL
lean cove
wait so there's a 64bit mac executable??
spare obsidian
yes but iirc is like for when the 64 branch was added
potent wolf
wait so there's a 64bit mac executable??
no it's 32bit
lean cove
yeah ok
potent wolf
it just has the changes from the first 64bit build
unborn pecan
cheating is over?
left sand
they never fixed this btw it's in the live version today apparently https://www....
more accurate
spare obsidian
cheating is over?
for only 5 seconds
unborn pecan
My mouse cursor is unironically
blazing cloud
https://discord.com/channels/389089828249010188/1072696252162117752/123065786895...
works, bless
unborn pecan
Dropping frames in the TF2 window
summer steeple
polling rate too high
spare obsidian
idk why vulkan crashes on me, i literally meet vulkan requirements lol
unborn pecan
still laggy fiend
even with a polling rate of 125hz
It looks like my mouse is at 60fps
TF2 feels as if it is presenting to me at a lower refresh rate than my actual screen
😭
They done fucked it up
valve rizz party
stuck locust
what if you tried using the -freq launch option?
unborn pecan
let me try it
launching tf2 with opengl again
Also, to note
I felt this both on vulkan and opengl
maybe it is a runtime issue?
spare obsidian
i think jhosh/ficool2 are going to plain up just drop mac support lol
unborn pecan
lol no
summer steeple
I think ficool once posted a dm from joshie where they said they'd rather die than touch mac again
unborn pecan
my mouse cursor is still laggy
crisp tangle
unborn pecan
guys where do I report bugs to valve...
languid haven
tf2 is using DXVK which is hooking into the D3D9 into convert it to vulkan which that injection may be what's giving a false flag.
unborn pecan
the bug in question: 🐱
spare obsidian
I think ficool once posted a dm from joshie where they said they'd rather die th...
literally this
summer steeple
tf2 is using DXVK which is hooking into the D3D9 into convert it to vulkan which...
I don't think its that
languid haven
then what is it cause i'd like to know
summer steeple
this happened in the beta too, random binaries for dev stuff got flagged by anti-virus
but I don't think it'd be DXVK because the actual game exe doesn't get flagged
and DXVK itself i'm not sure has ever gotten flagged
languid haven
vrad.exe
summer steeple
valve radiosity
languid haven
whatever that is, is triggering it
potent wolf
then what is it cause i'd like to know
(anti-)malware software
languid haven
ah
summer steeple
shadercompiler also triggers it
rare creek
windows defender is way better
stuck locust
ooc are these executables signed?
rare creek
and less spywarey
summer steeple
its funny cause they don't care about the x64 versions
only the x86 versions cause false positives
or at least cause more false positives on AVs people use
languid haven
is there a way to launch tf2 on linux?
summer steeple
mkv
unborn pecan
it's recorded at 144 fps
spare obsidian
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/5616 we're back at it again
unborn pecan
and discord doesn't do hevc embedding
languid haven
and less spywarey
"less spywarey" as not disqualifying it XD
summer steeple
idk looks smooth to me
languid haven
fuck that was fast
summer steeple
unless you mean without the console open
like in the actual gameplay
in which case idk
summer steeple
yeah
unborn pecan
and a video player that is playing back at 144fps
summer steeple
this also happened in the beta lol
summer steeple
yeah it does look kinda weird
summer steeple
i wasn't sure if you were talking about cursor when in game but with console open or in game itself
unborn pecan
it is with everything in the game
craggy ridge
i'm a bit sad i can't play the game because of bots and my internet
otherwise i'd be enjoying it rn
the new update
rare creek
uh just do bot_kick
dusky sable
~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/run.sh ~/.local/share/Steam/steam...
doesn't seem work on flatpak steam? i attempted to direct the whole path manually and ran it from the team fortress 2 folder and it said a file that definitely was there didn't exist
unborn pecan
well
If steam is installed on flatpak
Then it isn't going to be installed at ~/.local/share/Steam
dusky sable
yes, but as i said i changed it to just point to their equivalents and it still didn't work
rare creek
it probably wont have the sniper runtime at all no?
dusky sable
nah it's installed
rare creek
ohok
potent wolf
idk if it's possible on flatpak, since i don't use it
if theres a way to run commands in the flatpak environment, then it should work
maybe
lean cove
it said a file that definitely was there didn't exist
broken symlink or interpreter
summer willow
if theres a way to run commands in the flatpak environment, then it *should* wor...
flatpak run --command=bash com.valvesoftware.Steam
jagged pawn
add it as a steam game
well
unborn pecan
@summer steeple tell me if I am bugging, this is with dxvk
also look at how mangohud is geeking
summer willow
you can't change it here?
rare creek
i got into the shounic 100 player server and my game crashed
unborn pecan
you can't change it here?
that is scout runtime
not sniper
Sniper runtime requires manual activation from steam
lean cove
i got into the shounic 100 player server and my game crashed
this is because of the shounic Evil-GameCrasher™️ aura the server emits
summer willow
bryuhhhu
rare creek
it's once again the same message in the console
languid haven
this is because of the shounic Evil-GameCrasher™️ aura the server emits
or the amount of ram with having graphics turned up.
lean cove
no its only because shounic is evil
potent wolf
it's once again the same message in the console
epic fail
summer steeple
<@204761988482465794> tell me if I am bugging, this is with dxvk
yeah thats wacky
unborn pecan
probably a gpu issue
summer steeple
inf ms
unborn pecan
I am still going to report it
If other people experience it
they will say in comments
Considering you can't even normally launch tf2 linux build rn
I'd imagine the people running it are small in numbers rn
small sirenBOT
summer willow
Considering you can't even normally launch tf2 linux build rn
valve fixed bots
languid haven
I'd imagine the people running it are small in numbers rn
they are
dusky sable
well i got the intro to load before immediately dying
rare creek
-vulkan works on windows
potent wolf
rip
dusky sable
~/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/run.sh ~/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_sniper/run -- ./tf.sh
ran from the team fortress 2 folder
orchid sorrel
erm guys,,,, when did they add ctf_dire_dire_docks to tf2...,,,,,, is this part of the 64 update,,,,
mystic turtle
wait, what?
why is tf win64 already in my folder lol
rare creek
update
potent wolf
the magic of auto-updating!
languid haven
runs now?
languid haven
uh oh, the video on start up was stuttering
lean cove
link elsewhere
wraith orchid
Considering you can't even normally launch tf2 linux build rn
is this true for everyone? i'm having the same issue with launching the game that i was having when i was trying the 64 bit beta
summer steeple
re-encode in a better format
jagged pawn
alright let's revert back to x86 so I can play
wraith orchid
launching the game ends me up back on my desktop where i can move my mouse just fine but i end up completely locked out of everything else, i have to hard reset my pc when it happens
and the game keeps running but i can't do anything lol
potent wolf
wait, what?
why is tf win64 already in my folder lol
wait... is that kate?
summer steeple
hmmmm
potent wolf
csgo backports, i think
summer steeple
togl got updated too
summer steeple
idk but gametracking (steamdb) shows changes to libtogl
summer steeple
ah
potent wolf
also keep in mind that the symbol changes are from an out-of-date build
summer steeple
wdym
potent wolf
the symbols are pulled from the mac version
summer steeple
ohhh right
pale basalt
im surprised they pushed it
pale basalt
valve didnt make it tbh
summer steeple
minor update
pale basalt
minor update
potent wolf
it is a minor update, since no new content
dusky sable
`~/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime...
you can also just download the windows build and run it through proton which will totally not have unexpected behaviour, it boots to the menu also which is further
dusky sable
you can also just download the windows build and run it through proton which wil...
just force the use of proton experimental and it will download
potent wolf
proton doesn't work with VAC
small sirenBOT
molten compass
proton doesn't work with VAC
its funny cause wine for some reason does
potent wolf
funny
molten compass
also its the other way around VAC doesn't work with proton
molten compass
togl got updated too
why isn't this even removed
summer steeple
legacy
molten compass
Gallium Drivers have long surpassed ToGL
potent wolf
?
summer steeple
if you open up tf2 on linux it gives 2 options: play tf2, and "opengl legacy"
molten compass
Mesa's GalliumD3D drivers
molten compass
if you open up tf2 on linux it gives 2 options: play tf2, and "opengl legacy"
interesting
potent wolf
Mesa's GalliumD3D drivers
gallium nine? i'm don't think anybody actually uses that
from what i've heard dxvk is just as performant, if not better
mystic turtle
wait... is that kate?
Yes
I just don't want to use Notepad++
molten compass
gallium nine? i'm don't think anybody actually uses that
what i meant is togl is worse than that at this point so yeah
potent wolf
it's basically unsupported now fwiw
summer steeple
NO WAY
potent wolf
it's basically unsupported now fwiw
summer steeple
@left sand already gave up on tf2 x64
mystic turtle
You were good soon, real good, maybe even the be- be- be- be- be- be- be-
pale basalt
wild both go put out on same release window
left sand
<@115180582845153282> already gave up on tf2 x64 <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
why wouldnt i play the update i worked on
grave badge
does this update include any tc2 patches
i checked some of the exploits and they all still work :(
livid oracle
what exploits
grave badge
decloaks and sniper scope
summer steeple
optimizations yes, bug fixes no(?)
radiant merlin
valve add borderless it shouldn't be that hard :c
mystic turtle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSSA6UP4rec&ab_channel=shounic
okey
broken haven
ejecutar en una ventana
radiant merlin
hl2 ep2 has it
spare obsidian
wikiman
potent wolf
togl forever
broken haven
tf2 is save
spare obsidian
save from its community
potent wolf
unfortunate
spare obsidian
potent wolf
read one message below
rare creek
what is the list
potent wolf
it's a list of "symbols", basically the names of functions and global variables
rare creek
ye4d
summer steeple
^
rare creek
it's a list of "symbols", basically the names of functions and global variables
why do we have access to that
summer steeple
cause valve forgot to remove it from the mac version of the game
potent wolf
why do we have access to that
valve forgets to remove them from the mac versions of tf2, and they intentionally make them available on dedicated server builds
rare creek
average
mystic turtle
so, just went back into casual for a quick test
potent wolf
they fixed it for csgo years ago, but never for tf2
rare creek
why do they still have a mac version of tf2?
rare creek
is this not from tf2?
potent wolf
it is
rare creek
what
potent wolf
it's from a build that was released at the start of the x64 beta
and was pushed to the public branch too for some reason
radiant merlin
just force mac users to use wine or smth
languid haven
uh oh, video settings can't be changed on linux
potent wolf
it works on mac with crossover apparently
potent wolf
🤷♀️
summer steeple
hello, what have we here
spare obsidian
fiendhook2
potent wolf
fiendhook is dead
summer steeple
fiendhookx64
potent wolf
i'm too lazy to update my version of the sdk
and i don't really play tf2 anymore anyways
mystic turtle
not much perf improvement, eh
radiant merlin
hello, what have we here
they added capture the flag to tf2???? 🤯
spare obsidian
and i don't really play tf2 anymore anyways
you are playing better games now
potent wolf
yes
summer steeple
interesting...
potent wolf
i only play anime visual novel games now
spare obsidian
how long would it take to get broken again?
urban terrace
Maybe backporting stuff from CSGO/CS2
summer steeple
likely
urban terrace
how long would it take to get broken again? <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
2 Options
1: Twitch changing the API and Valve forgetting to update
2: Valve fucking up
spare obsidian
it wouldn't surprise me that twitch changes its API again
summer steeple
huh
rare creek
what is interesting about this
summer steeple
new shit
rare creek
does those words even mean anything
potent wolf
obviously not
summer steeple
to authorize something is to say like "I let you do this"
so in theory in this case it'd be like "I am allowing this server to grab items from the item server"
potent wolf
fiendtionary
rare creek
they are oging to blacklist servers from having items now????
\
languid haven
server can steal items now
they could've before
potent wolf
uhhh?
rare creek
the item servers already worked before
summer steeple
they are oging to blacklist servers from having items now????
\
who knows what it means, could just be some weird validation or security thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
spare obsidian
iirc nop
potent wolf
ic...
grave badge
hud_reloadscheme is SO FAST NOW
grizzled chasm
How do I enable vulkan? Through the launch options?
potent wolf
-vulkan in launch options on windows
uncut spear
feel the power of compatibility layers
shrewd leaf
I wonder; does Vulcan work better than DX9?
radiant merlin
it depends
potent wolf
someone should benchmark it
formal dew
are you launching in exclusive fullscreen
vulkan's implementation of exclusive fullscreen is vulnerable to bad drivers
radiant merlin
they removed quicktime support?
potent wolf
nice
summer willow
what about wayland backend?
grizzled chasm
are you launching in exclusive fullscreen
My display mode in tf2 settings is selected to full screen if that’s what you mean
Should I have it start up in windowed mode?
radiant merlin
have they added an alternative?
half rose
grave badge
good
split tangle
is there any reason to do -vulkan now or is it fine with default settings and just the update
uncut spear
vulkan's implementation of exclusive fullscreen is vulnerable to bad drivers
so that's why l4d2 would crash switching to fullscreen when on dxvk, damn
potent wolf
is there any reason to do -vulkan now or is it fine with default settings and ju...
default is probably fine
summer willow
it should work without changing the library now
damnnn
median pier
just checked wayland on my laptop - it still runs under xwayland for me
languid haven
is there any reason to do -vulkan now or is it fine with default settings and ju...
on linux vulkan is default
potent wolf
what kind of weirdo would use linux
livid oracle
next nymph
94 upvotes
summer willow
they changed default cvars?
potent wolf
rawinput is default now!
summer willow
wow
grave badge
so is that why people are saying their sens feels different
summer willow
no more selinux error
summer steeple
also fps_max increased to 400 to match cs
livid oracle
94 upvotes
i want to correct this so bad especially wih all the comments going like wow! makes so much sense! thanks for the very correct explanation!
but it's over a month old
potent wolf
do it anyways
grave badge
what is the actual reason
livid oracle
haven't seen anyone give a good explanation so far
my speculation is that it's a sphere now but that's unconfirmed
my other speculation is that it's deliberate changes
just undocumented for whatever reason
hard talon
I'm sure a lot of people have had this problem after the update just posting my experience of it. Using void linux on wayland. Game wouldn't load gave me libmimalloc.so missing error. I moved my custom and cfg folder and deleted my bin folder. Verified my game files and for some reason it loaded. I moved my files back over and it worked same as ever.
I noticed a 150 fps bump using mastercoms benchmark. In pubs I used to get 280-320 fps, with the update I get 380-420 or more fps. When look away from players it goes to 750+.
After a little while of playing normally my game just crashed. I joined back and after a while the same thing happened. After around 4-5 times I started to get a VAC message preventing me from joining server. Hopefully there is something to be done or Valve fixes it. Have a nice day.
potent wolf
valve is watching this thread
livid oracle
haven't seen anyone give a good explanation so far
someone could decompile the game to actually figure it out
but that's annoying
summer steeple
too hard :(
livid oracle
there is a 64-bit srcds for tf2 right