Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year | mastercomfig | Page 42

jagged pawn Dec 6, 2023, 3:20 AM

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thus why balancing mannpower specifically isn't an issue because who cares it's mannpower

left sand Dec 6, 2023, 3:21 AM

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theres also something some people who arent very inclined in game design will not get

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which is de facto design intent

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of course there will be oversights and bugs

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but there are also things that are suredly core and tested parts of tf2s design

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so no matter what is nonfunctional or incorrectly implemented, it IS correct

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because if it wasnt correct, they wouldnt have shipped it

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for example, the demoknight charge

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they playtested the charge.

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they didnt notice the charge extend missing.

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therefore, the charge extend is not intended

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because if it was, they would have bothered making sure that his range was extended

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because it would have failed in the playtest

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a great and well documented example of this which i think everyone should know of is the Strider in HL2.

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here is the story, from Valve:

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        //=====================================================================
        // STRIDER MINIGUN DAMAGE - Pull up a chair and I'll tell you a tale.
        //
        // When we shipped Half-Life 2 in 2004, we were unaware of a bug in
        // CAmmoDef::NPCDamage() which was returning the MaxCarry field of
        // an ammotype as the amount of damage that should be done to a NPC
        // by that type of ammo. Thankfully, the bug only affected Ammo Types 
        // that DO NOT use ConVars to specify their parameters. As you can see,
        // all of the important ammotypes use ConVars, so the effect of the bug
        // was limited. The Strider Minigun was affected, though.
        //
        // According to my perforce Archeology, we intended to ship the Strider
        // Minigun ammo type to do 15 points of damage per shot, and we did. 
        // To achieve this we, unaware of the bug, set the Strider Minigun ammo 
        // type to have a maxcarry of 15, since our observation was that the 
        // number that was there before (8) was indeed the amount of damage being
        // done to NPC's at the time. So we changed the field that was incorrectly
        // being used as the NPC Damage field.
        //
        // The bug was fixed during Episode 1's development. The result of the 
        // bug fix was that the Strider was reduced to doing 5 points of damage
        // to NPC's, since 5 is the value that was being assigned as NPC damage
        // even though the code was returning 15 up to that point.
        //
        // Now as we go to ship Orange Box, we discover that the Striders in 
        // Half-Life 2 are hugely ineffective against citizens, causing big
        // problems in maps 12 and 13. 
        //
        // In order to restore balance to HL2 without upsetting the delicate 
        // balance of ep2_outland_12, I have chosen to build Episodic binaries
        // with 5 as the Strider->NPC damage, since that's the value that has
        // been in place for all of Episode 2's development. Half-Life 2 will
        // build with 15 as the Strider->NPC damage, which is how HL2 shipped
        // originally, only this time the 15 is located in the correct field
        // now that the AmmoDef code is behaving correctly.

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an idiot might see a bug and go "wow, i need to fix that strider damage to 5! thats the intended value because 15 was a bug!"

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but no, the intended value is whatever the value was that worked during the design and playtesting of that feature.

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its a hard distinction to make without being a valve employee, but i use a lot of clues

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for example the historical context, the patch note, what valve was looking at in the community, what the iteration process was, who was likely to have shipped that code, what the larger philosophy behind the changes which introduced a bug were, etc.

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and also how easy to notice or impactful a bug would be to balance or to observational studies such as valve's

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thats how i come to the conclusion that the iron bomber hitbox was a bug but the charge range is not

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obviously, theres cases where i toe the line

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and ive explicitly categorized these for valve

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and also of course they will always decide

summer steeple Dec 6, 2023, 3:48 AM

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also good example of this, someone told jill about dispensers giving double metal if you're touching it

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their response was essentially "thats pretty cool"

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granted, it wasn't something they necessarily knew about

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but once they were made aware of it, considering how long it had been in the game, plus the fact that it wasn't gamebreaking, they probably considered it a form of skill expression

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found it
https://vxtwitter.com/PazerFromSilver/status/1013567871484489728

vxTwitter / fixvx

Twitter

pazer (@PazerFromSilver)

Jill translator: "we didn't know about this and didn't intend for it to work like this, but sure it'll probably stay in the game unless we decide it's confusing and/or unbalanced"

💖 432

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i guess it is a bit different, but it is similar

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oh, my mistake

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 4:07 AM

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i was wondering if i missed a development lol

summer steeple Dec 6, 2023, 4:08 AM

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schoenick??? promounced like shounic??? shounic actually valve employee confirmed?????

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 4:09 AM

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i think they would kill shounic

formal dew Dec 6, 2023, 4:09 AM

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valve employees have a confirmed death count of over 7,000

jagged pawn Dec 6, 2023, 5:01 AM

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btw good question regarding the mvm voice line fix, just in case it hasn't been mentioned

summer steeple Dec 6, 2023, 5:25 AM

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all the voiceline change does is tell the game to try and play a voice line, should be the exact same behavior as when anything else in the game plays a voice line

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worth mentioning, i don't know what the issue was in l4d2

small sirenBOT Dec 6, 2023, 5:27 AM

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*worth mentioning, i

don't know what the issue was

in l4d2*

drowsy marlin Dec 6, 2023, 6:55 AM

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crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 11:25 AM

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SO TRUE

left sand Dec 6, 2023, 12:11 PM

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jagged pawn btw good question regarding the mvm voice line fix, just in case it hasn't been ...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2447114069

Steam Workshop::MvM Response Rule Tweaks v2

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it doesnt add any audio files

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all it does it hook up code to new response rules and fixed response rules

small sirenBOT Dec 6, 2023, 12:12 PM

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*all it does it hook

up code to new response rules

and fixed response rules*

left sand Dec 6, 2023, 12:12 PM

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and also fixes some things where the lines get cut off

jagged pawn Dec 6, 2023, 12:38 PM

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btw far from an original thought but how feasible would it be for them to make weapon tips more easily accessible and browsable, and also would that fall into the same category of qol as, say, live player model on main menu

unborn pecan Dec 6, 2023, 1:14 PM

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cool thing

mystic turtle Dec 6, 2023, 1:36 PM

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that could be fairly easy

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also, putting down some shower thought jokes here
with prophunt possibly getting to TF2, I guess it's now Garry's & Team's Box Fortress Mod 2

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now we just need to remake the toolgun and physgun, as well as implement the spawnmenu

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everyone is an engineer now

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(There, shitpost ends here)

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 1:43 PM

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tf2 is NOT gmod

left sand Dec 6, 2023, 1:59 PM

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jagged pawn btw far from an original thought but how feasible would it be for them to make w...

theyve already done that

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or do you mean an inventory rework

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:37 PM

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being in water refills the jarate by 1500% instead?

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:39 PM

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crisp cedar tf2 is NOT gmod

I agree, but a close friend of mine knows one of the prophunt gamemode devs

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she LITERALLY got death threats, like holy shit

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:39 PM

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+ while in water, refill jarate by 1500%
- while in water, make constant "glub glub" noises

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:39 PM

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sure its not fitting but come on

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:39 PM

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prophunt fits tf2 more than some actual gamemodes

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:39 PM

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next nymph ```diff + while in water, refill jarate by 1500% - while in water, make constant...

wearing jarate always makes running water noise

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:40 PM

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next nymph prophunt fits tf2 more than some actual gamemodes

like what?

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theres 5 gamemodes

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prophunt doesn't fit AT ALL but still, devs don't deserve what's done to them

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:40 PM

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what the fuck is a mannpower

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you dont even fight other players in mvm

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pass time ??? "ooh yeah hide and seek isn't the tf2 spirit. anyway wanna play some basketball?"

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 4:45 PM

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burnt dragon I agree, but a close friend of mine knows one of the prophunt gamemode devs

sorry i was only joking

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i was making fun of said people against this

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:47 PM

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I feel like a lot of the complaints about "the tf2 spirit" miss that tf2's been a stone soup for longer than some players have been alive. Prophunt doesn't fit that launch-day tf2 vibe... that arguably hasn't been the case since at least the second scream fortress back in 2010

drowsy marlin Dec 6, 2023, 4:47 PM

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I think prophunt should be a Halloween mode. It makes sense since Merasmus turned into props in his boss fight

cursive peak Dec 6, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Just give us Dodgeball as a vscript gamemode.

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:50 PM

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to be clear, I think prophunt is a great gamemode and I love to see more of the chaotic sourcemod-style gamemodes that were a huge part of tf2 years ago

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dodgeball is another highlight

cursive peak Dec 6, 2023, 4:50 PM

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Bball is also enjoyable.

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SoapDM as well.

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It's hilarious that SoapDM is what so many TF2 players want but they don't like SoapDM.

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TDM with instant respawns that drop you right into the action.

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:55 PM

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next nymph you dont even fight other players in mvm

tf2s testing of pve

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mannpower is just casual tf2 with hooks

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and if mvm didnt have gambling, those examples you gave me would have a common point

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having less people than I can count playing them... which is... what comes after 13?

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:56 PM

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but like, pve "doesn't fit" tf2. Hooks and powerups "doesn't fit" tf2. etc.

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:57 PM

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tf2 isnt about realism tho

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base game feels like 2 teams fighting with character have their own specialties

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:57 PM

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at least, it doesn't until it's been added for years and people like it and forget they ever said it doesn't fit

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 4:57 PM

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zombie mode had that and I enjoyed it

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mvm has that which I also enjoy

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prophunt is... sitting down simulator?

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afk gaming!

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saxton hale gamemode felt weird and didnt give the funny chemicals that casual gamemode gives

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it fits, story and all

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but not my style

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 4:59 PM

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I don't think they have a perfect design and you're right that both prophunt and vsh could use some gameplay adjustments. But if that's all it is then that's fine

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 5:00 PM

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yeah, I dont care what others say, thats just how I feel and if I enjoy them

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you know how you could hype up community for prophunt?

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connect it to merasmus somehow

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him cursing random people to be objects and hunters being monsters or something

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theres no other way you can connect it to a way that could work

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 5:02 PM

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the props are remote-controlled and trying to stay hidden in the other team's secure facility to spy on them

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 5:02 PM

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and on a side comment, I would prefer shit staining walls gamemode instead of having another of those 2019~2021 era updates

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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burnt dragon and on a side comment, I would prefer shit staining walls gamemode instead of ha...

yeah a splatoon gamemode would be cool

drowsy marlin Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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TF2 is NOT GMOD!!!!!!

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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drowsy marlin TF2 is NOT GMOD!!!!!!

squares and rectangles. Tf2 is not gmod but gmod is tf2

small sirenBOT Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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*squares and rectangles.

Tf2 is not gmod but

gmod is tf2*

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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drowsy marlin TF2 is NOT GMOD!!!!!!

holy shit are you having an aneurysm, we know its not gmod

small sirenBOT Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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*holy shit are you

having an aneurysm,

we know its not gmod*

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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nice.

drowsy marlin Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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Holy double haiku

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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haikubot KING

drowsy marlin Dec 6, 2023, 5:04 PM

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My opinion must be wrong then

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 5:04 PM

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get hecced!

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I play tf2c nowadays

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I played it at first release long ago

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they improved it a lot and its actually a lot more fun than current tf2

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 5:04 PM

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did they fix explosions being cubes instead of spheres

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 5:04 PM

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I think?

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they fixed door flame issue

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spy isnt a buggy hellhole anymore

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I can actually play spy without feeling inferior to other classes

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especially in VIP mode its great

glass musk Dec 6, 2023, 5:05 PM

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tf2 classic is fun

burnt dragon Dec 6, 2023, 5:06 PM

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yees!

left sand Dec 6, 2023, 5:16 PM

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"tf2 is not garrys mod" fans on suicide watch

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LMAO

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tf2 was literally the original prop hunt game

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okay i found a cs1.6 prop hunt

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but still

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this is just a fucking joke at this point lmao

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 5:25 PM

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burnt dragon they improved it a lot and its actually a lot more fun than current tf2

arguable

hoary geyser Dec 6, 2023, 5:26 PM

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tf2 fans when no content: 🤬🤬🤬

tf2 fans when content: 🤬🤬🤬

high current Dec 6, 2023, 6:43 PM

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Honestly at this point it's Valve's decision. If they decide PH doesn't fit then in their opinion it doesn't fit, if they decide it does then it does.

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 6:44 PM

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truly. we have established this.

high current Dec 6, 2023, 6:45 PM

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I liked Mr.McVicker's Idea of adding an "Arcade" category to the map selection panel. Honestly things like Pass Time and Mann Power should be added to that category, I can't recall if they have their own yet.

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I think if they add an "Arcade" category it completely nullfies any argument against adding the whacky gamemodes. As long as they don't start accepting like 10gb maps.

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 6:47 PM

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so

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misc

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iguess renaming it to arcade

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would change peoples attitude

high current Dec 6, 2023, 6:50 PM

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I think it is a perception thing, "Misc" just implies "none of the above" where as "Arcade" implies its a sorta separate style than the rest.
Like player destruction is Misc, it's still a pretty "vanilla" gamemode. Passtime, Mannpower, PH, SH, are pretty distinctly different experiences.

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I think that also improves the experience of "Misc" gamemodes, but maybe I'm wrong🤷‍♂️

left sand Dec 6, 2023, 7:34 PM

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add dota 2 arcade to tf2

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have a discovery queue and featured queue based on likes/rating

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tf2 lives forever

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workshop maps can be automatically added officially at any time with that

crisp cedar Dec 6, 2023, 7:36 PM

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its ok tf2 doesnt need the arcade to have things similar to dota 😭

left sand Dec 6, 2023, 8:46 PM

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high current Dec 6, 2023, 8:47 PM

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CleanTF2 is a good mod!

next nymph Dec 6, 2023, 8:47 PM

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thanks peaches and aimbob

high current Dec 6, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Honestly cp_orange with vscript rtd and pony-rp when?

jagged pawn Dec 6, 2023, 9:58 PM

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left sand or do you mean an inventory rework

yeah

craggy ridge Dec 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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DUDE

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WHO WHITEWASHED

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MY TF2

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WHY IS IT WHITE

potent wolf Dec 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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what

craggy ridge Dec 7, 2023, 2:44 AM

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why

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WHY IS IT WHITE

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Is it smissmas?

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or is it xhud

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if its the letter that would be so cool

potent wolf Dec 7, 2023, 2:45 AM

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oh yeah i think huds can change the icon

distant mango Dec 7, 2023, 2:49 AM

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"Fixed case of worse than expected packet loss on unreliable connections."
Does anyone know what Git commit this is referring to on https://comfig.app/update/

mastercomfig

The TF2 Spring Cleaning Update

The Team Fortress 2 Spring Cleaning Update. Performance improvements, gameplay fixes and quality of life updates. A mock update page from mastercomfig, creators of Team Comtress 2, the TF2 patchset.

hoary geyser Dec 7, 2023, 3:12 AM

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somone just tried to join my server, got kicked by vac, and then managed to just join

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vac is truly great

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unless they just faked it

distant mango Dec 7, 2023, 3:13 AM

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Known exploit

hoary geyser Dec 7, 2023, 3:21 AM

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also wow I forgot how bad wutville was

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it's not like funny bad, it's just, bad

craggy ridge Dec 7, 2023, 4:06 AM

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hoary geyser also wow I forgot how bad wutville was

its top 3 worst maps in the entire game

high current Dec 7, 2023, 4:41 AM

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Did they accept the changes that the creator made to the map? I think they were working on making less objectively bad

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 4:49 AM

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yeah "working" on it

crisp cedar Dec 7, 2023, 4:50 AM

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they tweet often about it

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 4:50 AM

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i.e. they've been showing off images for the past few years

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but have not actually released anything

formal dew Dec 7, 2023, 4:50 AM

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do we know who picked wutville

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was it casali

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 5:02 AM

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beta wutville looked better

crisp cedar Dec 7, 2023, 5:02 AM

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it was dark and gritty

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 5:04 AM

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no it looked objectively better lol

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is there a way to fix those ghost corners that leak the hud?

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you can see the main menu through them lol

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 5:22 AM

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high current Did they accept the changes that the creator made to the map? I think they were ...

he didn't finish in time. said he's gonna keep at it for 2024

left sand Dec 7, 2023, 5:30 AM

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distant mango "Fixed case of worse than expected packet loss on unreliable connections." Does ...

that might be an incorrect note, if i havent adjusted the packet drop algorithm

glass musk Dec 7, 2023, 5:30 AM

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left sand Dec 7, 2023, 5:30 AM

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but its a commit... somewhere

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but should be a change to net_maxpacketdrop

left sand Dec 7, 2023, 5:31 AM

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formal dew do we know who picked wutville

thumbnail pick, what do you think

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Team Fortress 2 Megathread - GMod Smissmas Waiting Room

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 5:46 AM

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https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/4803#issuecomment-1451233224

GitHub

[TF2] [Feature Request] Enable the "No mipmap" flag on the War Pain...

Much like how some textures in the game have the "No mipmap" flag set for them to make sure they're always full quality, I feel like the groups textures for War Paints/Decorated weapo...

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this is so dumb

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so if you have a bad pc and you redeem a war paint, when you upgrade your pc your war paint will still look like shit

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wtf

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 5:48 AM

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oh my god

left sand Dec 7, 2023, 5:50 AM

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radiant merlin so if you have a bad pc and you redeem a war paint, when you upgrade your pc you...

at runtime

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 5:51 AM

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also mat_picmip -10 doesn't work with war paints?

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looks good in the viewmodel but in the world looks low res

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and also in the loadout screen

potent wolf Dec 7, 2023, 9:27 PM

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update

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:28 PM

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it's happening

potent wolf Dec 7, 2023, 9:30 PM

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these are the new maps

kind falcon Dec 7, 2023, 9:31 PM

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leaker

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:31 PM

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they didn't add it hahaha

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:32 PM

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genuinely cannot believe they added haarp

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like it's a good map but it's so weird

formal dew Dec 7, 2023, 9:32 PM

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Yo?

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:33 PM

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"missing" the creators never made a blu version in the first place

formal dew Dec 7, 2023, 9:33 PM

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Did they screw up the texture sheet like with the Sydney sleeper

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where the blu bleeds into the red skin

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Fixed broken lighting for viewmodels in tight spaces

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Cool

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:35 PM

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omg this looks ugly

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:35 PM

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new maps

Original:
Brew https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2962755338
HAARP https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=456481752
Krampus https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3063014386
Camber https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1375766014
Emerge https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=888027758

Skins:
Carrier https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2888176898
Turbine https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2887605754
Hightower https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2781286631
Nucleus https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3080331323
Bonesaw https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2885653656

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:36 PM

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radiant merlin omg this looks ugly

it's garbage but it's also [RESKIN OF POPULAR MAP] so it gets in for free

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:36 PM

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carrier is vip?

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:37 PM

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THIS IS SICK AS FUCK WTF

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:37 PM

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radiant merlin carrier is vip?

it's crasher from halloween. one player turns into a mech and has to deliver a package. so basically symmetrical vip yeah

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:38 PM

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jagged pawn THIS IS SICK AS FUCK WTF

real?

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:38 PM

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jagged pawn it's crasher from halloween. one player turns into a mech and has to deliver a p...

THE RETURN OF VIP

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:38 PM

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I got it from another server but I'm like 90% sure it wasn't a meme

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:39 PM

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holy shit haarp real

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worth noting that hacksaw is the og, bonesaw was the reskin

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:40 PM

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lets see if hacksaw creators took in consideration my proposed changes

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:40 PM

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yeah true fiend

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when I say reskin I just mean "is already in the game in some fashion"

kind falcon Dec 7, 2023, 9:40 PM

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jagged pawn THIS IS SICK AS FUCK WTF

who is this furry individual

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:40 PM

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new boss

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appears on koth_krampus

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he's avenging the death of old nick

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:41 PM

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i find it interesting, cashworks during summer, haarp this update

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:41 PM

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damn i wish old nick was a boss

formal dew Dec 7, 2023, 9:41 PM

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true

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:41 PM

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seems like valve is also trying to go back and add old maps too

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:41 PM

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but he died

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:41 PM

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summer steeple seems like valve is also trying to go back and add old maps too

this makes me so happy

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there's so many good maps that got left behind

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the fact that they care is so nice

kind falcon Dec 7, 2023, 9:42 PM

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jagged pawn appears on koth_krampus

i wonder what his name is

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:42 PM

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haarp and cashworks are both such classics

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:42 PM

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kind falcon i wonder what his name is

i bet its jeff

kind falcon Dec 7, 2023, 9:42 PM

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yeff

formal dew Dec 7, 2023, 9:43 PM

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jefferson

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:43 PM

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for some reason the krampus image appeared for a milisecond and then changed into heavy

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maybe it is the hud

kind falcon Dec 7, 2023, 9:44 PM

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radiant merlin for some reason the krampus image appeared for a milisecond and then changed int...

preloading

radiant merlin Dec 7, 2023, 9:45 PM

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again

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the background is kinda stretched

summer willow Dec 7, 2023, 9:46 PM

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where prophunt

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:47 PM

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hey they uh... added new audio files? am i missing something?

small sirenBOT Dec 7, 2023, 9:47 PM

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*hey they uh... added

new audio files? am

i missing something?*

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:47 PM

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jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:47 PM

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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:48 PM

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like if this was sound effects for a taunt i'd get it but these are VO files

potent wolf Dec 7, 2023, 9:48 PM

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summer steeple

the page is killing my browser lol

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:48 PM

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same lol

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github moment

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it took like over a minute to load the diff for just the VO vpk

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:48 PM

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erm wait new tf2 update?

potent wolf Dec 7, 2023, 9:49 PM

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yes

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:49 PM

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when did they record these wtf

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:49 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127914742552465529.gif?size=48&name=explod&quality=lossless

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Fixed missing normal map and variables for Festivized weapons (community fix from Woshee)

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huge

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:50 PM

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ok scout_taunt_cry is just the scout laughing cut from another voice line

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spy_taunt_cry i'm not sure about but probably the same

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the whistles are in the VO folder but are sound effects, considering the rimshot sound is in the same folder i guess its not like

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valve made

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it just doesn't look like they have a community folder for these sounds

left sand Dec 7, 2023, 9:52 PM

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Fixed broken lighting for viewmodels in tight spaces (community fix from Stuffy360)

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:52 PM

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huge

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:52 PM

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what was the issue there?

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:53 PM

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WAIT

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NEW TURBINE MAP

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127914742552465529.gif?size=48&name=explod&quality=lossless

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best map in game

crisp cedar Dec 7, 2023, 9:54 PM

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jagged pawn new maps Original: Brew https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=...

i didnt notice u already wrote this and i forgot that this server doesnt allow to insert links into text 😭

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 9:54 PM

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lmao

next nymph Dec 7, 2023, 9:54 PM

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unborn pecan best map in game

this is false. Turbine has no train hazards

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:55 PM

#

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this is amazing

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wtf

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so big

#

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lol they turned turbine into a mall

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:56 PM

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oh yeah the christmas turbine is like a huge labor of love for detailing

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:56 PM

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this map is like

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unironically so cool

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also u can see the bot kill in top right

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:56 PM

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i don't like turbine but i respect it

next nymph Dec 7, 2023, 9:56 PM

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unborn pecan

i feel like this is well beyond a reskin of turbine

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:57 PM

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yooo

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they did some changes

next nymph Dec 7, 2023, 9:57 PM

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like half of the map geometry

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:57 PM

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lol

next nymph Dec 7, 2023, 9:57 PM

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can you rocketjump into the now open space and not hit your head on an invisible wall?

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:57 PM

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idk

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I just quit tf2

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:58 PM

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erm fake turbine fan

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doesn't even play a full round

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:58 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/758782769911431229.gif?size=48&name=catEEE&quality=lossless

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die

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i am on a trackpad

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:58 PM

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yeah and

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not enough of a turbine gamer to top score with a trackpad?

next nymph Dec 7, 2023, 9:58 PM

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unborn pecan i am on a trackpad

the only true way to play turbine

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 9:58 PM

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like the founding fathers intended

unborn pecan Dec 7, 2023, 9:58 PM

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😭

cursive peak Dec 7, 2023, 10:01 PM

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They added Haarp? It's so bad.

spare obsidian Dec 7, 2023, 10:03 PM

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trollfig

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oh did n't know this

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 10:06 PM

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huge

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oh yeah here's the new kill icons from the new maps

spare obsidian Dec 7, 2023, 10:07 PM

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spare obsidian oh did n't know this

wait didn't this technically happened with old ass mdl decompilers?

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i swear shit like this happened with old decompilers

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 10:09 PM

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wait what map is the bus

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 10:09 PM

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its a zamboni

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i think its galleria?

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sidenote, am i missing something? i'm not seeing the base jumper change (in the files at least, haven't checked ingame)

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oh i see

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red

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blu

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mmmm love me some textures with sharp edges

spare obsidian Dec 7, 2023, 10:12 PM

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mmmm i love working with non original source files

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 10:12 PM

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the thing is tho

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valve did this

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just like how they did the sydney sleeper

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they have the files

spare obsidian Dec 7, 2023, 10:14 PM

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next nymph Dec 7, 2023, 10:15 PM

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summer steeple mmmm love me some textures with sharp edges

whats the problem officer

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 10:16 PM

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i'm sure ingame its basically unnoticeable (better than the sydney sleeper just having a blue splotch on the underside) but its still annoying that this is how they've been adding blue variants

summer steeple Dec 7, 2023, 10:16 PM

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next nymph whats the problem officer

edges of the handle are extremely sharp, black pixels, no anti-aliasing

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you compare it to the red one, which is smooth all the way down

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its very different

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hopefully unnoticeable on the actual model

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even if you squint

formal dew Dec 7, 2023, 10:17 PM

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blue handle looks like shit

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I didn't notice the texture up close

spare obsidian Dec 7, 2023, 10:18 PM

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literally unplayable

formal dew Dec 7, 2023, 10:18 PM

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I am refunding

spare obsidian Dec 7, 2023, 10:18 PM

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not touching this garbage ever again

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 11:21 PM

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WAIT I JUST REALIZED

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NO COLD ERA

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WTF

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NOOOOOOOOOOO

craggy ridge Dec 7, 2023, 11:26 PM

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oh actually the summer maps are fun

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i wasnt playing tf when they were added

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some of them are pretty cool

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hardwood is easily my favorite

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i didnt like it at first but it grew on me

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its like a better merc park

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 11:48 PM

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running into a bug where when I open the pause menu the fps tanks to like 5 for a few seconds, then goes back to normal

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will post in #1019788401588830249 if there's not a quick fix but thought I'd ask here just in case there was an easy solution

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 11:48 PM

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craggy ridge its like a better merc park

not really sure I see the correlation beyond a/d

left sand Dec 7, 2023, 11:49 PM

#

#

left sand Dec 7, 2023, 11:53 PM

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jagged pawn THIS IS SICK AS FUCK WTF

its made by the community contributors

jagged pawn Dec 7, 2023, 11:58 PM

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wow emerge is uh. bad

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I haven't played everything yet but I think emerge might be The Map of this update

high current Dec 8, 2023, 12:08 AM

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Koth version of Hightower is hype.
New killfeed icons need to be added to monochrome icon packs though😢

jagged pawn Dec 8, 2023, 12:11 AM

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tier list
S: HAARP, Camber
A: Hacksaw, Carrier
B:
C: Krampus, Emerge
D: Turbine
Haven't played yet: Snowtower, Galleria, Brew

radiant merlin Dec 8, 2023, 12:31 AM

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sooooo

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they tried to add a community fix?

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looks normal in thirdperson

paper sluice Dec 8, 2023, 12:36 AM

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what was the fix

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the bodygroup?

radiant merlin Dec 8, 2023, 12:36 AM

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idk

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they didn't mention anything

paper sluice Dec 8, 2023, 12:37 AM

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weird
i hope they fix the bodygroup someday
cuz rn the hot hand is literally just slightly bigger so that it covers the glove

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even though theres a bodygroup for it

potent wolf Dec 8, 2023, 2:09 AM

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til you can get a kill with the fish without it showing 'FISH KILL' in the killfeed

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by doing the rps taunt

livid oracle Dec 8, 2023, 2:48 AM

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did the prop hunt map not make it in

craggy ridge Dec 8, 2023, 2:48 AM

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jagged pawn not really sure I see the correlation beyond a/d

it starts off big and then gets more chokey but hardwood still managed to be open enough on last

livid oracle Dec 8, 2023, 2:48 AM

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lame as hell

craggy ridge Dec 8, 2023, 2:51 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880170988799676466/1182514207422423050/2023-12-07_23-45-00.mp4?ex=6584f92d&is=6572842d&hm=b30b0208b6fd5c25b174b83234ac98def343750f27b3657d4bc14446cc6759e9&

▶ Play video

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the game remembers your kills

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you can get backstabs/destroy buildings with any revolver and switch back to the diamondback and get the crits

summer steeple Dec 8, 2023, 4:36 AM

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koth hightower is actually pretty sick

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hightower if it was good

radiant merlin Dec 8, 2023, 5:09 AM

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oh windows 7 will no longer work for tf2 in 2024

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 5:11 AM

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lol

summer willow Dec 8, 2023, 5:17 AM

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what the fuck is haarp

jagged pawn Dec 8, 2023, 5:17 AM

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team fortress classic style attack/defend

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you have to bring the intel to a control point

summer willow Dec 8, 2023, 5:18 AM

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where is prophunt

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but serious

radiant merlin Dec 8, 2023, 5:19 AM

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xd

summer willow Dec 8, 2023, 5:19 AM

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imagine harass map creators for creating in their minds that valve gonna add and thats bad

jagged pawn Dec 8, 2023, 6:48 AM

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jagged pawn tier list S: HAARP, Camber A: Hacksaw, Carrier B: C: Krampus, Emerge D: Turbine...

update
S: HAARP, Camber
A: Hacksaw, Carrier
B: Brew
C: Krampus, Emerge, Snowtower
D: Turbine, Galleria

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:49 AM

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EXCUSE ME

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1085675210021281842.webp?size=48&name=STARE&quality=lossless

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:49 AM

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I tried playing the reskinned turbine and people were trying to be friendly on it

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:49 AM

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WHY IS TURBINE

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IN D TIER

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/666008714393944064.webp?size=48&name=funkeHmm&quality=lossless

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prepare to be executed, bluey

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:49 AM

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So I killed them to maks them mad

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The new turbine is ass ngl

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That train in the middle is stupid

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:50 AM

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Franklin

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:50 AM

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And they nerfed sniper sightlines for no good reason

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:50 AM

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🐱

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do you want to blow up

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:50 AM

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No

jagged pawn Dec 8, 2023, 6:50 AM

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no matter how well made the visuals are they're still on turbine

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but at least it's not galleria

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:51 AM

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I am a big fan of the vent change though

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:51 AM

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drowsy marlin No

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1085675210021281842.webp?size=48&name=STARE&quality=lossless

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too bad

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:51 AM

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I played TF2C the other day

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Man I miss the v_models

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:53 AM

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there is a new tf2c update soon I think

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2.1.3

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https://tf2classic.com/

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read blog

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:53 AM

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I'm so curious on how the shading on the scattergun and flamethrower

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:53 AM

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https://tf2classic.com/?id=6449

tf2classic.com

TF2 Classic - A Shiny, New(-ish) Look

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:53 AM

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Is there source core or something I can see?

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 6:54 AM

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I think tf2c source code is kept locked up

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in a tower

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with a dragon

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 6:54 AM

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Something similar to a roughness map, or phong map?

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I know TF2 doesn't use roughness maps but damn it does Valve make pretty metals

summer willow Dec 8, 2023, 7:50 AM

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turbine event is just an upgraded version

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 7:54 AM

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so better

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 7:55 AM

#

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Woke Fortress 2!!!

unborn pecan Dec 8, 2023, 7:55 AM

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TRUUUUUUUUUUUE

kind falcon Dec 8, 2023, 8:22 AM

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drowsy marlin

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-black-cat-cattitude-catitude-gif-21688220

Tenor

glass musk Dec 8, 2023, 11:45 AM

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drowsy marlin

very based..

next nymph Dec 8, 2023, 12:01 PM

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drowsy marlin

@crisp cedar phoenix wright reference

crisp cedar Dec 8, 2023, 12:08 PM

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there are plenty of fictional wrights

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phoenix wright, evan wright, piper wright

livid oracle Dec 8, 2023, 12:35 PM

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crisp cedar phoenix wright, evan wright, piper wright

crisp cedar Dec 8, 2023, 12:55 PM

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post the full image

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clearly this is a cropped image

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i dont understand what this means

livid oracle Dec 8, 2023, 1:42 PM

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it's the rayne image

next nymph Dec 8, 2023, 1:54 PM

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crisp cedar phoenix wright, evan wright, piper wright

phoenix wright and two phoenix wright references

crisp cedar Dec 8, 2023, 2:12 PM

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livid oracle it's the rayne image

This needs more context.

craggy ridge Dec 8, 2023, 5:06 PM

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drowsy marlin

I'm not going to sugarcoat it

summer willow Dec 8, 2023, 7:43 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyEr2_-GvOQ

YouTube

Htwo

TF2's Movement is a Buggy Mess

DISCORD: https://discord.gg/9d2ACHw7sT
TWITTER: https://twitter.com/Htwogamedesign
SECOND CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOdX18793mzKf35ne-uhh5

FOOTAGE:
Sketchek stuck video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAidBlMoKj0
lots o' jumpbugs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0XPGclHXNU&t=1s
Tomato Tom Jumpbug: https://www.youtube.com/watch...

▶ Play video

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i know about most of these but i dont know how they work and im surprised about how rocket jump+crouch works actually

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i though you go higher because crouching in the air makes you gain some height, maybe not in tf2 specifically but this happens in portal 2

livid oracle Dec 8, 2023, 7:53 PM

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summer willow i though you go higher because crouching in the air makes you gain some height, ...

havent watched the video but wdym

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crouching makes you go further because it multiplies your knockback by like 149%

kind falcon Dec 8, 2023, 7:56 PM

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livid oracle crouching makes you go further because it multiplies your knockback by like 149%

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1049706293700591680/1177201547755651182/caption-3-1-1.gif?ex=6571a560&is=655f3060&hm=bf7562737eb53907ce6c1895fa1c4518120048e833a3d2ec67f554f4fb093297&

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lol

summer willow Dec 8, 2023, 7:56 PM

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yeah, in the video he says thats because your weight is based on your boundaries box, crouching makes its smaller and with less weight with more knockback

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but i thought that was just because you gain more height crouching jumping

livid oracle Dec 8, 2023, 7:56 PM

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yeah its very strange

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its based on your volume specifically

left sand Dec 8, 2023, 8:08 PM

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summer willow yeah, in the video he says thats because your weight is based on your boundaries...

thats incorrect

#

it's specifically coded to check for the volume, because they wanted to boost impacts while crouched

#

like you can clearly see the intention

kind falcon Dec 8, 2023, 8:10 PM

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left sand thats incorrect

what is

left sand Dec 8, 2023, 8:10 PM

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that its some property of the bounding box

kind falcon Dec 8, 2023, 8:11 PM

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your two ideas seem to be matching. i dont know nobody

left sand Dec 8, 2023, 8:11 PM

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what actually happens is it adds a multiplier to damage forces based on the ratio of default bounding box volume and the current volume

#

i was about to say that

#

its not that there is a mass or volume computation on the bounding box which interacts with the physical calculation of the force

kind falcon Dec 8, 2023, 8:12 PM

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wow. the author of the video is trying to mislead own viewers.

left sand Dec 8, 2023, 8:12 PM

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it simply does a speed multiplier based on a very rough check of default bounding box vs current bounding box bounds

#

no its a "simpler" explanation but it makes Source sound like spaghetti

#

but it's specifically added in there simply to add more force for crouching

#

so he could have said

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the developers of TF2 wanted more dynamic behavior than Quake, so they added a multiplier, so that its faster when your bounding box is smaller, to improve game feel

#

but instead he made some bullshit about mass and volume which is arguably more complicated because it involves physics

#

and hes talking about it as if Source calculated mass stupidly

#

thats the annoying part to me

#

i think the reason why its annoying is instead of better understanding or articulating how the game works, they just blame Valve or Source for being "spaghetti"

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 9:01 PM

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Source is spaghetti though. Look up coconut.jpg

cursive peak Dec 8, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Wasn't that proven fake?

next nymph Dec 8, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Source is spaghetti though. Look up heavy medic kissing softly

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 9:03 PM

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cursive peak Wasn't that proven fake?

cursive peak Dec 8, 2023, 9:03 PM

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I don't give a fuck about shitty memes.

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 9:03 PM

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Wow.

crisp cedar Dec 8, 2023, 9:05 PM

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u do this every time

cursive peak Dec 8, 2023, 9:08 PM

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Nobody wants joke responses to legitimate statements.

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 9:08 PM

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yuh huh

cursive peak Dec 8, 2023, 9:08 PM

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Go fuck yourself.

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 9:08 PM

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D:

formal dew Dec 8, 2023, 9:08 PM

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here's a serious statement

crisp cedar Dec 8, 2023, 9:08 PM

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its called we do a little trolling

#

no need to encourage this kind of behaviour with that type of response

formal dew Dec 8, 2023, 9:09 PM

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the spaghettiness of tf2 does not matter because it wouldnt be supported by valve more even if it was the cleanest code of all time

#

gordian knot cut

drowsy marlin Dec 8, 2023, 9:11 PM

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So how about that Team Fortress 2?

paper sluice Dec 8, 2023, 9:15 PM

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krampus looks cool

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i havent played the map but i like the model

jagged pawn Dec 8, 2023, 9:43 PM

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not a fan of the map tbh

#

definitely in the lower half of bosses

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but I'm also glad that we're getting new bosses again

craggy ridge Dec 8, 2023, 10:18 PM

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I was playing tf2 and I opened the mic and to tell the medic to heal me and I accidentally called him my dog's name

left sand Dec 8, 2023, 10:28 PM

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i hate how theres no truce

crisp cedar Dec 8, 2023, 10:29 PM

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theres no truce?

#

the workshop map mentioned a truce though

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ohhh they edited it

#

sneaky

summer steeple Dec 8, 2023, 11:13 PM

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there's no truce but the cap point is locked during it still

craggy ridge Dec 8, 2023, 11:31 PM

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guys

#

is this gem or coal

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiWv5KC3K2I

YouTube

Narci

Meet The Spy if it was written by VivziePop

I'm red spy the hardcore + awesome

Original Twitter post this came from: https://x.com/undercookedspy/status/1732198583783289020?s=20

Meet The Spy (no voices) by Gusvenga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muu1hJuN5dg

▶ Play video

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:09 AM

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craggy ridge I was playing tf2 and I opened the mic and to tell the medic to heal me and I ac...

Average medic relationship

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:09 AM

#

craggy ridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiWv5KC3K2I

gem

#

I love the "fuck fuck fuck fuck"

#

and the goonstash

#

😭 the spy's intro line kills me

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:15 AM

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i wish i could find an edit of a family guy clip i saw in this style

#

they just put fuck between every single word

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:17 AM

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Y'all know about vpkedit?

#

in version 3.6.0, they added a model preview

#

#

It's pretty good

#

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/903841969745313863.webp?size=48&name=Smile&quality=lossless

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:17 AM

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thats p cool

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:17 AM

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yeah

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:17 AM

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is vpkedit meant to obsolete gcfscape?

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:17 AM

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pretty sure yeah

#

Well

#

Vpkedit just does vpks

#

gcfscape does do other things you know

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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yeah, like open gcfs

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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trollfig yeah that

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but if you just use it for vpks

summer willow Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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oh cool

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

#

I would use vpkedit

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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actually i use gcfscape for bsps too

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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The only complaint I have for vpkedit though

#

is, at least on linux, there was no file assocation out of the box

#

maybe same on windows

#

so I had to write those files myself, which was a fun learning thing

#

maybe it's different on windows

small sirenBOT Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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*so I had to write

those files myself, which was

a fun learning thing*

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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but vpkedit is pretty good imo

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

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i'll have to check it out

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:18 AM

#

@summer steeple do you use gcfscape ot like

#

pack and unpack stuff from bsps?

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:19 AM

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no just to open them up

#

helpful to see if files are packed in

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:19 AM

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oh okay

#

let me see if vpkedit can do that

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:19 AM

#

not really helpful to grab stuff because it can't extract repacked files

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:19 AM

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i just use unzip on bsps trollfig

small sirenBOT Dec 9, 2023, 12:19 AM

#

*not really helpful

to grab stuff because it can't

extract repacked files*

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

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nope

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

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potent wolf i just use `unzip` on bsps <:trollfig:938154442484777111>

does that work?

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

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they use lzma i think so it should

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

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I thought bsps use that weird compression nobody uses

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

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well the thing is about repacking is that it doesn't compress the entire bsp

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

#

bzip2

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

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oh i thought it was lzma

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bzip2

#

no

#

bzip2 i remember

summer willow Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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me when

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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no wait i'm right

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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summer willow me when

ERM

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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for some games

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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okay jakez

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/903841969745313863.webp?size=48&name=Smile&quality=lossless

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use the vpkedit package for now

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and I will fix vpkedit-git

summer willow Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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ok

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 AM

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🫡 Thank you for bringing it to my attention

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:22 AM

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unborn pecan does that work?

yes, because the pak lump a is zip file placed at the very end of the bsp file.

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it's a pretty cool trick imo

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:22 AM

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simple but effective

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:23 AM

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word

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/925784110029504512.webp?size=48&name=Salute&quality=lossless

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alsmot done fixing vpkedit-git

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they added a new submodule

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:24 AM

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potent wolf it's a pretty cool trick imo

now if only the rust zip crate supported lzma trollfig

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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alright done

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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potent wolf now if only the rust zip crate supported lzma <:trollfig:938154442484777111>

erm replay

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I don't think bsp files use lzma

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valve uses bzip2

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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they do

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bzip2

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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i literally just sent a screenshot

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unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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no?

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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yes

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on some games

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:26 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127914742552465529.gif?size=48&name=explod&quality=lossless

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oh word?

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:26 AM

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hurricane reading comprehension moment

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:26 AM

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no Iij ust didn't read your screenshot

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it looked

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poopy

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🐱

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:26 AM

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you're poopy because you didn't read it

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and missed critical information

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:26 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1128274505962373190.gif?size=48&name=BoyKisser&quality=lossless

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die

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 12:26 AM

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no

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:26 AM

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@summer willow i fixed vpkedit-git if u wanna use that, but you are already are on stable commit

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:27 AM

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mapmakers should lzma compress the pak lump and use lzma compression on all the files in said pak lump

radiant merlin Dec 9, 2023, 12:46 AM

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updoot

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:46 AM

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another update

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nooo

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i was too slow

tacit flare Dec 9, 2023, 12:47 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-gif-26093316

Tenor

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Let me guess, patching the exploits Delfy has already found? Not that they mean much with the bots nuking casual like normal.

left sand Dec 9, 2023, 12:49 AM

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Krampus localization missing fixed

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Dapper Dickens styles added (with/out glasses)

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Fixed map preview on cp_carrier

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Fixed one of the author names on Krampus

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:51 AM

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another one?

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:51 AM

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https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=213753

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:51 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127914742552465529.gif?size=48&name=explod&quality=lossless

radiant merlin Dec 9, 2023, 12:51 AM

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phoenix update

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:51 AM

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Pheonix, Arizona update

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looks like some substantial ballancing

tacit flare Dec 9, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Why was my image deleted?

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 12:52 AM

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spam

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:52 AM

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😭

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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/j

tacit flare Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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DemoWhat

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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classic troll rayne

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🐱

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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lol

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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hey replay

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wanna see a cool emoji?

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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sure?

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1128274505962373190.gif?size=48&name=BoyKisser&quality=lossless

left sand Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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reposting copyrighted Valve content without permission

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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left sand reposting copyrighted Valve content without permission

🙀

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1104669145431281714.gif?size=48&name=explode~1&quality=lossless

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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unborn pecan https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1128274505962373190.gif?size=48&name=BoyKisser...

nevermind...

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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trollfig

tacit flare Dec 9, 2023, 12:53 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-huh-dog-gif-9454444978823724629

Tenor

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 12:54 AM

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we do a little trolling its called we do a little trolling

summer willow Dec 9, 2023, 1:07 AM

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just now i have it

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lets go be annoying

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 1:14 AM

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Anyone else wondering what that Stealthmode guy's deal is on HLDS?

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 1:15 AM

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just another weirdo on hlds

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almost no doubt it my mind that its just some idiot who thinks that they're funny

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 1:18 AM

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Sounds almost like a mental health issue.

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 1:18 AM

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just ignore them

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hlds is always like this

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 1:19 AM

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Not really.

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 1:19 AM

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it comes and goes imo

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every now and then someone shows up and they either get bored or valve i assume deals with them

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 1:20 AM

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I've been on there long enough that I was there when it was used for more than just updates.

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 1:20 AM

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i wouldn't be surprised if its more of an issue now than it was in the past

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cause people see it as some way to talk to valve devs idk

formal dew Dec 9, 2023, 2:03 AM

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society should magnify peoples sense of embarrassment 100x more than at present so people post less stupid shit

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shy world

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:04 AM

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they keeps sending emails

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also this shows up on my email whenever whenever i read one

formal dew Dec 9, 2023, 2:04 AM

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lol

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:04 AM

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but that might just be an HLDS thing

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yeah it is

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its because its forwarded through HLDS, but the originating email isn't a valvesoftware one it looks like

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 2:05 AM

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formal dew society should magnify peoples sense of embarrassment 100x more than at present ...

some people would get off on that

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better not

formal dew Dec 9, 2023, 2:07 AM

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glub

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Some guy named Christian burns popping off in the ds

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:11 AM

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Yeah, leaning towards mental health issue.

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:12 AM

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oh is this the dude who was using HLDS to talk about valve stealing his work??? i knew the name sounded familiar

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:12 AM

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formal dew Some guy named Christian burns popping off in the ds

in the what?

heavy solarBOT Dec 9, 2023, 2:12 AM

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@limpid panther has earned the UNREAL role!

next nymph Dec 9, 2023, 2:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gif-16840273180643860652

Tenor

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:14 AM

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IT IS THE SAME DUDE

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:14 AM

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for me HLDS means Half-Life Dedicated Server

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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it means the same here

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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HLDS mailing list.

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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but is there a central chat or something?

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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we're talking about the HLDS mailing list

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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ah

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ok

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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https://list.valvesoftware.com/

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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valve uses it to send out emails for tf2 updates (and some other source games, but at this point its almost entirely tf2)

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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KF2 gets the odd email on there.

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:16 AM

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ye

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:16 AM

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is there a way for me to read the responses without having to subscribe? 👀

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:16 AM

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There also used to be some discussion on it, too, but that was like 10+ years ago.

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:16 AM

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I'm only passingly interested in the gossip

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:17 AM

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for reference, in 2020 this guy did a similar thing and thne created another email account (actually they might've even used the same one) to send stuff like this

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:17 AM

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not enough to subscribe

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:17 AM

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I think you just have to give them an email address to get a code to browse the archives.

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:17 AM

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i think you have to be subscribed to access the archives tho

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:17 AM

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aw

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nvm then, I will just stick to the screenshots

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:17 AM

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you could try
https://list.valvesoftware.com/hlds/

List Archives - Windows Dedicated Server Mailing List - Authenticat...

Authentication page for Windows Dedicated Server Mailing List

limpid panther Dec 9, 2023, 2:18 AM

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no, you need to provide an email address

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:18 AM

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yeah they send you a code via email, but i don't remember if you need to be subbed for it

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 2:18 AM

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can you subscribe and then block the mailing list?

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:18 AM

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maybe

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:18 AM

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oh wait

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:18 AM

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It's real low volume anyway.

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:18 AM

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i remember this

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i did a troll

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:19 AM

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ye you did

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the same guy is back

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:19 AM

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lololol

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average valve fan

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:20 AM

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tbh aside from the occasional weird thing on there, the HLDS mailing list is nice, emails for tf2 updates, every now and again there's a bit of conversation, a little bit of extra info from valve (if they decide to respond)

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:20 AM

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lol ok

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:21 AM

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usually if there's like a patchnote thats inaccurate (either due to the patch note being wrong of the thing they changed not actually working correctly) someone will tell them there and sometimes valve is like "thanks for letting us know"

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once or twice i've seen joshie respond there, i think fletcher dunn responded once regarding the SDR stuff

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:21 AM

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And those archives only go back 2018 anyway. They had a different program for the mailing list prior to that.

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:27 AM

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hey guys I am real owner of mastercomfig

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:27 AM

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left sand i think the reason why its annoying is instead of better understanding or articu...

a lot of the weird movement quirks like ctapping and increased jump speed when you crouch before jumping arent even because of "spaghetti"

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theyre very easily fixable bugs

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"spaghetti" would be if fixing them would break other things inadvertently

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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left sand i think the reason why its annoying is instead of better understanding or articu...

truuue

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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like the reflect self-damage bug trollfig

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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everytime I heard the word spaghetti in any context inside of tf2

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I know I am about to hear the most ass opinion

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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now thats spaghetti

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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erm ass opinion incoming?

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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i just dont say anything i dont know about

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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they should add a spaghetti cosmetic to tf2

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and give it to anyone who reads r/tf2

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:30 AM

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what would its name be

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lololol

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"Redditor's Delight"

left sand Dec 9, 2023, 2:30 AM

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the self damage reflect bug isnt spaghetti

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its very simple to fix

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 2:30 AM

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isn't that what jane said?

unborn pecan Dec 9, 2023, 2:31 AM

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wgetjane

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:31 AM

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no i said it was spaghetti because i thought it required reworking how projectile ownership worked

left sand Dec 9, 2023, 2:32 AM

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it requires storing an original owner

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and thats it

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:34 AM

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i thought it involved changing how every projectile checked for ownership and i wanted to check the old messages where you explained it to see if im not misremembering

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but discord changed everything with how the search works idk how to even access it

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so i will simply accept for now that you jut changed one line

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 2:36 AM

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Last time they had it fixed, didn't it make it so reflected Black Box rockets didn't give you health?

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:36 AM

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its "fixed" only for rockets

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the fix that coms did fixes it for every projectile and properly applies stuff like killstreaks and strange counters

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the naive fix makes you have to choose between the fucked up 170 self-damage vs no ks/strange counting

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which what valve did for rockets

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and what i did for the other projectiles in tc2 trollfig

formal dew Dec 9, 2023, 2:42 AM

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one of the most mercurial bugs for me is the screen jitter when crouching in air, sometimes it's in goldsrc, sometimes in source, sometimes in sp, sometimes in mp

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varies a lot by game

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:44 AM

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formal dew one of the most mercurial bugs for me is the screen jitter when crouching in air...

you mean like it moves your screen up for a tiny moment before moving it back down?

formal dew Dec 9, 2023, 2:44 AM

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ye

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sometimes it happens more than once if you spam crouch in air

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:46 AM

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yeah its supposed to teleport you upwards and move your camera down at the same time

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wonder if it happens in a listen server

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 2:53 AM

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left sand the developers of TF2 wanted more dynamic behavior than Quake, so they added a m...

also idk if the vid mentions this but what makes it very much obviously intentional is it specifically pretends your bounding box height to like 56 iirc for self-knockback

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which is pretty interesting since it means they had an intended amount of max force for rocket jumps that they wanted to keep intact when they changed crouch heights

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was the crouch height change done pre-release or in a patch?

left sand Dec 9, 2023, 2:59 AM

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livid oracle also idk if the vid mentions this but what makes it very much obviously intentio...

no video basically says: the source engine is stupid garbage and stupidly calculates mass based on the volume of your bounding box instead of preserving mass

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 3:10 AM

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goddamnit the vid is 30 mins

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 3:33 AM

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nvm he talks about it in the first few minutes

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yeah he makes it out to be a stupid and almost unintended mechanic

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 3:38 AM

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https://vxtwitter.com/wickedplayer494/status/1733306077393940642

vxTwitter / fixvx

Twitter

wickedplayer494 (@wickedplayer494)

Sometimes I mope about why Valve rarely uses HLDS and csgo_servers these days, but then the absolute lunacy I'm reading tonight makes me understand why that seems to be the case more often than not.

💖 2

jagged pawn Dec 9, 2023, 3:56 AM

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what is HLDS

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 3:57 AM

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jagged pawn what is HLDS

#1072696252162117752 message

next nymph Dec 9, 2023, 3:57 AM

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h l ds nutz

jagged pawn Dec 9, 2023, 3:57 AM

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ah I see. but then what happened that it's being talked about

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did someone just abuse it or

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 3:57 AM

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pretty much

next nymph Dec 9, 2023, 3:58 AM

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doesn't this happen once every few months

potent wolf Dec 9, 2023, 3:58 AM

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yes

formal dew Dec 9, 2023, 4:13 AM

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valve fans

tough locust Dec 9, 2023, 5:21 AM

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left sand i hate how theres no truce

idk the truce is what ruined ghost fort because it was to help people finish merasmissions in 2015, killing krampus isnt a goal of the map he's just there to add chaos. he's the first actual cool tf2 boss IMO. MErasmus is boring, the horesemann and skeleton king are OP, and monoculus isn't really fun to fight at all.

summer steeple Dec 9, 2023, 5:29 AM

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tbh the issue with ghost fort is that you need to hold the point for 7 fucking minutes

jagged pawn Dec 9, 2023, 6:11 AM

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no they made it worst of both worlds

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the point gets frozen while krampus is alive, but you can still kill the enemy team. so you can't actually play the game (fight for the objective) and the fact that you're constantly dying to each other instead of the boss makes it take even longer

left sand Dec 9, 2023, 9:10 AM

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tough locust idk the truce is what ruined ghost fort because it was to help people finish mer...

im being sarcastic

burnt dragon Dec 9, 2023, 9:46 AM

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craggy ridge or is it xhud

https://github.com/PapaPeach/xhud/issues/15

GitHub

Resolution and hidden screen problems · Issue #15 · PapaPeach/xhud

when playing MvM in 2560x1440 screen I have to reset the resolution every time I open the screen. because the wave bar is too much to the left extra issues are when I am in customizations screen of...

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xhud was extremely buggy in my case

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I hope it gets updated again

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or ported to tf2c

kind falcon Dec 9, 2023, 9:51 AM

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burnt dragon or ported to tf2c

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/645650679003873301/853719508798537798/caption.gif

jagged pawn Dec 9, 2023, 10:01 AM

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TF2 if it was good

the-devs-should-create-a-new-casual-mode-category-for-v0-drmm6y38gmcb1.png

livid oracle Dec 9, 2023, 10:12 AM

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tf2 if it was good

jagged pawn Dec 9, 2023, 10:15 AM

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tf2 if it was good

radiant merlin Dec 9, 2023, 1:44 PM

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jagged pawn TF2 if it was good

pd code was made by valve

kind falcon Dec 9, 2023, 2:03 PM

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tf2 if it was bad

runic dew Dec 9, 2023, 2:39 PM

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tf2

drowsy marlin Dec 9, 2023, 3:34 PM

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TF2 is good

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 3:59 PM

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false not true or true not false

high current Dec 9, 2023, 4:22 PM

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burnt dragon xhud was extremely buggy in my case

MvM is still a WIP.
-The customization screen locking out your mouse was fixed, it was actually a bug in default hud too, had to do with the training menu just locking your crosshair if you opened it in game. Fixed that before I left for New Mexico this summer
-The MvM bar I think was fixed recently, still probably in the development branch though.
-The MvM victory loot thing not showing is a bug in default hud too, apparently the bug essentially gets toggled by reloading the hud. If it happens and you reload hud it’ll stop happening, then if you reload hud again it starts happening? The hud dev community has started hunting that bug actively as of yesterday though.
-The text overlapping on the MvM scoreboard I’m pretty sure I’ve fixed, that might still be in the development branch though.
-The health bar not being relative to MvM health: there’s not really anything that can be done about that, it’s relative to 150% overheal for stock and kritz, quick fix won’t fully fill the bar and MvM won’t fully show the bar. In MvM I don’t think it’s a big issue because if someone has 150% health they’re just as healthy as someone with 400% overheal. With the quick fix, it’s a bad weapon, but also it’s kinda good to know someone doesn’t have 150% overheal, because if they get healed by another medigun you can still see it.

Also there’s no plan to port to TF2C. I’ve never played it and don’t really plan to so I won’t be able to test it. If it uses the same sdk2013 build as TC2, it can work if you change the version number of it in info.vdf. But TF2C adds a class and teams and almost definitely breaks more elements than TC2 that was a pretty direct port.

craggy ridge Dec 9, 2023, 4:23 PM

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runic dew tf2

Where is madcap?

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I remember playing with him in the early days, he was my main

crisp cedar Dec 9, 2023, 4:25 PM

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gumbly was better

burnt dragon Dec 9, 2023, 4:25 PM

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high current MvM is still a WIP. -The customization screen locking out your mouse was fixed,...

cool! thanks for the return! I thought the project was dead

cursive peak Dec 9, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Stealthmode is still at it.

summer willow Dec 9, 2023, 8:19 PM

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camber is kinda meh

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i noticed the first bug in the delfy video in the first time i played

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and its confusing

#

jagged pawn Dec 9, 2023, 8:30 PM

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lmao

radiant merlin Dec 9, 2023, 11:57 PM

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so there's an oob exploit in borneo again?

summer willow Dec 9, 2023, 11:59 PM

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source

potent wolf Dec 10, 2023, 12:00 AM

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engine

radiant merlin Dec 10, 2023, 12:01 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qfQTH7hcNo

YouTube

Professor Not A. Spy

[TF2 Exploit vs Hackers] Out of Bounds Exploit on Borneo

We ran into a party of cheaters in a casual TF2 game and decided to give them a taste of their own medicine.

Borneo Exploit

#tf2 #outofbounds #borneo #exploit

▶ Play video

summer willow Dec 10, 2023, 12:05 AM

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i find it funny

radiant merlin Dec 10, 2023, 1:36 AM

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"the first door, probably a greeting from the map creators to the trans community, but I think it's a reference to phoenix wright"

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LOL

crisp cedar Dec 10, 2023, 1:39 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/mrcube-no-you-are-wrong-ace-attorney-kelso-phoenix-wright-gif-21626986

Tenor

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:11 AM

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i find it so funny that so much of the tf2 community is bigoted but like 95% of the people who actually make content for the game are queer and/or furry

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there's just simply no way that this obvious reference to trans people is an obvious reference to trans people

paper sluice Dec 10, 2023, 2:21 AM

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radiant merlin "the first door, probably a greeting from the map creators to the trans communit...

Bigots have no media literacy

heavy solarBOT Dec 10, 2023, 2:21 AM

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@paper sluice has leveled up! (64 ➜ 65)

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:21 AM

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TRUE

paper sluice Dec 10, 2023, 2:22 AM

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One of the greatest examples are bigots that watch the boys

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Like how do they watch the boys and not understand the shows talking about THEM

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:24 AM

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bigots when they see a tv show where the main character beats a bigot to death with their bare hands while yelling "I HATE BIGOTS I HATE BIGOTS" be like "he's so cool, i bet he hates gay people"

summer willow Dec 10, 2023, 2:42 AM

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what happened

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:44 AM

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nothing

summer willow Dec 10, 2023, 2:45 AM

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cool

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:45 AM

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well the HLDS stuff is still happening but thats just how it be

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and thats not tf2 related at all

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 2:49 AM

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If all that stuff that guy is saying is true, why isn't he taking legal action?

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:49 AM

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because its not true lol

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he said he'd take legal action 3 years ago

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probably said that years prior too

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if i had to guess, its either someone mentally unwell, or a desperate bid for attention

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or both!

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 2:50 AM

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I was thinking mental health issue and/or a sovcit.

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:50 AM

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sovcit?

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 2:51 AM

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Sovereign citizen

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

Sovereign citizen movement

The sovereign citizen movement (also SovCit movement or SovCits) is a loose group of litigants, anti-government activists, tax protesters, financial scammers, and conspiracy theorists based mainly in the United States. Sovereign citizens have their own pseudolegal belief system based on misinterpretations of common law and claim to not be subjec...

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:51 AM

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ah

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 2:52 AM

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The weird thing with implied consent made me wonder if he had other weird legal understandings.

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I did do a little digging. Dude has posts on the GOG forums, too.

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https://www.gog.com/forum/battlezone_98_redux/ermya_know_this_game_is_free_right

Erm.....Ya know this game is free right?, page 1 - Forum - GOG.com

Download the best games on Windows & Mac. A vast selection of titles, DRM-free, with free goodies, and lots of pure customer love.

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:56 AM

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first thing i found was a tftv post with this great quote

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International Vourt

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its so weird, like every email has a different signature

crisp cedar Dec 10, 2023, 2:56 AM

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summer steeple well the HLDS stuff is still happening but thats just how it be

https://vxtwitter.com/wickedplayer494/status/1733571316681482733

vxTwitter / fixvx

Twitter

wickedplayer494 (@wickedplayer494)

And so it continues for another day. See, I would tell this StealthMode guy to just shut the fuck up and get help, but I'm not about to feed the blatant troll. The few people that actually bother replying to his lunacy fail to realize that all they're doing is just feeding him.

💖 2

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posting wickedplayer funny

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because hes on my tl

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:56 AM

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this guy hasn't been on the HLDS for a long time have they?

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cause this is uh, nothing new

small sirenBOT Dec 10, 2023, 2:56 AM

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*this guy hasn't been

on the HLDS for

a long time have they?*

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 2:56 AM

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oh btw this tftv post I found

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3 years old, but he replied to it yesterday with the same shit that he sent to HLDS

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like copy pasted

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oh

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this is a newish account btw, looks like he deleted his old one

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:02 AM

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Check his replies.

unborn pecan Dec 10, 2023, 3:02 AM

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hi mastercomfigies

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what are we talking about

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:02 AM

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BOYCOTTED (136.6 hrs on record, 20.9 hrs at review time)

unborn pecan Dec 10, 2023, 3:03 AM

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"bad netcode"

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😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:03 AM

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unborn pecan Dec 10, 2023, 3:03 AM

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😭 Nazi Adminstration Treaty Organization

crisp cedar Dec 10, 2023, 3:03 AM

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SO TRUE

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hes so right

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:04 AM

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cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:05 AM

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On the other hand, he doesn't seem to like Musk.

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:06 AM

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ok on further inspection the tftv post appears to be a repost by someone completely different

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explains the different name

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:07 AM

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summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:08 AM

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btw their steam accoutn also says this

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90% of their emails have been them shitting on every single person on this list except shaffner

unborn pecan Dec 10, 2023, 3:08 AM

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that's how he shows his love

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/903841969745313863.webp?size=48&name=Smile&quality=lossless

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don't you like showing your love, fiend

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:09 AM

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no

unborn pecan Dec 10, 2023, 3:09 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1085675210021281842.webp?size=48&name=STARE&quality=lossless

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i see it anyways

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:10 AM

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tbh I have to assume that whatever is going on in their head is more recent, because their complaint from this year and 2023 has been that valve stole the name steam from them and some shit, which literally was 20 years ago

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:10 AM

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unborn pecan Dec 10, 2023, 3:11 AM

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😭 bro is talking like a weeb

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127190478895448106.webp?size=48&name=neofox_think_anime&quality=lossless

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:11 AM

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supposedly said "call it steam" valve said "ok", and now 2 decades later is pissed off that they stole this name (that they said they should use and there is no ownership of the word 'steam'"

unborn pecan Dec 10, 2023, 3:11 AM

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"Only amateurs call a weapon a gun"

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instead of steam, vlave should've named it smog

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:13 AM

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did a tiny bit more digging, they have updated their description in the past 3 years

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clearly, they still think eric smith is the best

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ok i'm done

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:18 AM

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He does a lot of that copy/paste thing.

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He's got another one about EVs.

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:19 AM

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tbh, i'm like 100% convinced this is just mental illness, potentially just short sprees where they're off of their medication

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:19 AM

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summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:19 AM

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cause like, all of these tweets are from a week in january

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then never again

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the previous HLDS outburst was like a few days in 2020, then it stopped

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and now this has been going on for 2 days or so

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:22 AM

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There's his EV copy/pasta

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:26 AM

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i'm sorry I know i said i was done but this is too funny to me

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its too easy, this bot game is too easy

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9fps

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:26 AM

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"bloatmaps"

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:27 AM

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they also pretty regularly upload images from CS 1.6, and whenever they post scoreboard images of them topscoring, its always against bots

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100% without fail

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like i'm sorry but surely its not that hard to find a CS 1.6 game with actual players

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:30 AM

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Maybe it's hard to find one where he can top score with actual players.

small sirenBOT Dec 10, 2023, 3:30 AM

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*Maybe it's hard to

find one where he can top score

with actual players.*

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:30 AM

#

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He was banned from the World of Warships Hub.

summer steeple Dec 10, 2023, 3:37 AM

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i just feel bad

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they clearly have some shit going on

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 3:39 AM

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Maybe they'll get back on their meds soon.

paper sluice Dec 10, 2023, 5:17 AM

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https://vxtwitter.com/justyn1_/status/1733504452148052225

vxTwitter / fixvx

Twitter

Justyn (@justyn1_)

I've just released a small patch for the TF2 Awesome Pack that fixes a few bugs that I caused and fixed a issue that was introduced in the Smissmas 2023 update where Pyro's right hand is using the wrong mesh in first person.

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the fucking

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worldmodel hand is showing up on the viewmodel

radiant merlin Dec 10, 2023, 5:18 AM

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uhhggghug sorse spaguetti uhuhug

livid oracle Dec 10, 2023, 12:59 PM

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burnt dragon Dec 10, 2023, 1:09 PM

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summer steeple this guy hasn't been on the HLDS for a long time have they?

half life dedicated server?

cursive peak Dec 10, 2023, 4:43 PM

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It's the mailing list for largely TF2 updates. Started way back when the Half-Life Dedicated Server would've been the dominant server.

radiant merlin Dec 10, 2023, 5:10 PM

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camber's blu 2nd spawn doesn't have a resupply locker

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nice one valve

radiant merlin Dec 10, 2023, 10:24 PM

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what does "ai_rebalance_thinks" do?

potent wolf Dec 10, 2023, 10:39 PM

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I don't think it does anything in tf2

high current Dec 10, 2023, 11:41 PM

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It gives auto balance sentience

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When you complain about auto balance it gets sad when it’s set to 1

potent wolf Dec 11, 2023, 12:20 AM

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tcmalloc fix soon maybe?

unborn pecan Dec 11, 2023, 12:25 AM

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"we don't want to break the game for people"

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game is already broken

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also, is that TKG frog?

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what server is this 👀

potent wolf Dec 11, 2023, 12:26 AM

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unborn pecan game is already broken

There's a risk that it'll stop working on systems where it is currently working

radiant merlin Dec 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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use beta trollfig

potent wolf Dec 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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?

radiant merlin Dec 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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for testing

crisp cedar Dec 11, 2023, 12:52 AM

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there is some knowledge you wont always be privy to

unborn pecan Dec 11, 2023, 12:54 AM

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crisp cedar there is some knowledge you wont always be privy to

😭

formal dew Dec 11, 2023, 1:07 AM

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potent wolf tcmalloc fix soon maybe?

explosion splash radius fix pushed to live when trollfig

summer steeple Dec 11, 2023, 1:12 AM

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which one

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or rather which bug

formal dew Dec 11, 2023, 1:43 AM

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the one ashton said they were gonna fix but seemingly pulled because of regressions

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where stairs and small drops n stuff block the explosion radius

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no line of sight from the blast center to enemy

potent wolf Dec 11, 2023, 1:46 AM

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oh yeah that

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 1:52 AM

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i doubt thats getting in

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because of sticky traps

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but maybe theres a fix for it

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also yeah, i figured that rn is not a good time for fixes

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i think early 2024 will be a good year for tf2

potent wolf Dec 11, 2023, 1:54 AM

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hopefully 🫡

drowsy marlin Dec 11, 2023, 1:55 AM

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Really?

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Why will it be a good year

spare obsidian Dec 11, 2023, 1:57 AM

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unless the world ends in january i don't see it would be a bad year lol

crisp cedar Dec 11, 2023, 1:57 AM

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drowsy marlin Why will it be a good year

positive affirmations

formal dew Dec 11, 2023, 1:59 AM

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then only one year to the 10th anniversary of gun mettle

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https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

Tenor

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 2:17 AM

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just noticed this

cursive peak Dec 11, 2023, 2:17 AM

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2 years to 15 years since the game went F2P.

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 2:17 AM

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and yeah, i kinda honestly doubted that was gonna work

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because like

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with how heavily it was advertised as an interview and not just a plain visit

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valve would get uncomfortable for a tour being misused as an opportunity to interview

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if he had just acted more casually and normally, he would have been able to at least ask some questions and get some casual answers

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but they are not gonna like let you openly be a content creator looking to make interview content

jagged pawn Dec 11, 2023, 2:18 AM

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I am still of the belief that it was fictional the whole time. why did anyone believe without evidence that some nobody with 20 followers scored an interview with a famously insular company

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 2:18 AM

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when its really just a tour

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he wasnt "nobody"

jagged pawn Dec 11, 2023, 2:19 AM

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potent wolf tcmalloc fix soon maybe?

please I'm begging

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 2:19 AM

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he makes unusual effects

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also

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he has followers

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yeah its like a 5k subscriber channel but still pretty well known for tf2 content beforehand

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and anyone normal enough can get a tour at valve.

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its just framing it as an interview, thats the stupid part

jagged pawn Dec 11, 2023, 2:20 AM

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well yeah

spare obsidian Dec 11, 2023, 2:20 AM

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not accusing anybody but that post originally fell like a follow farm

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 2:20 AM

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i dont doubt there was a tour planned

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it seemed honestly like a tour during the international

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and then he was like oh i can make this into an interview

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and valve caught wind of that and was like

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uhm nope

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sorry pal!

spare obsidian Dec 11, 2023, 2:21 AM

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how much the dude is going to be silent for 3 monts related to this matter

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and deflect any questions about that lol

jagged pawn Dec 11, 2023, 2:23 AM

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yeah I don't really care if he makes unusual effects or whatever this was clearly a desperate attempt at getting attention and it flopped because he flew too close to the sun

spare obsidian Dec 11, 2023, 2:23 AM

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and not to be cynical but they're going to "blame valve because they went silent about the """interview""" "

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 2:24 AM

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jagged pawn yeah I don't really care if he makes unusual effects or whatever this was clearl...

yeah i definitely agree that he saw an opportunity in making the tour larger than it actually was

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like yeah, saying you got an INTERVIEW for valve

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its kinda like

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gyatt damn

jagged pawn Dec 11, 2023, 2:25 AM

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spare obsidian and not to be cynical but they're going to "blame valve because they went silen...

oh yeah this was the worst part. just so stupid

left sand Dec 11, 2023, 2:25 AM

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imma follow for UPDATES

spare obsidian Dec 11, 2023, 2:25 AM

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unless you're a bussines man or someone from a company valve doesn't hand over interviews willingly willy

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they do but its very very rare you came accross with such case

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there's more chances of winning the lottery 5 times than getting a interview with valve

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its more likely you can get a interview if you're a journalist

small sirenBOT Dec 11, 2023, 2:26 AM

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*its more likely you

can get a interview if

you're a journalist*

formal dew Dec 11, 2023, 2:27 AM

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eventually a tf2 fan will win the powerball and buy a 10 minute interview with gabebot 2.6

cursive peak Dec 11, 2023, 2:27 AM

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Win the powerball and pay Valve for the update we all want.

hoary geyser Dec 11, 2023, 2:36 AM

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congrats scottsman

crisp cedar Dec 11, 2023, 2:46 AM

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i think being a tf2 fan applies a negative multiplier on ur chances of getting an interview with valve

formal dew Dec 11, 2023, 2:46 AM

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that's why jills and ashtons are so rare

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they scan your brain for tf2 memory engrams

drowsy marlin Dec 11, 2023, 2:47 AM

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why does valve dislike TF2?

#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year