Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year

[summer steeple]

altho at that point you might as well do a square

yea

base_boss my beloved (hated)

[spare obsidian]

i think this has been said like a lot but would tf2 benefit itself from using panorama?

like the sole reason why vscript vgui wouldn't happen likely is because of how explotaible it is

[summer steeple]

i think i asked ficool about this once and he was like "it'd be worse"

cause dota has had like actual CVEs because of it

[spare obsidian]

but only dota right?

[potent wolf]

if it was an issue with panorama i don't see how it would be game specific

[summer steeple]

I assume its just that dota was where it was found

before getting patched

[spare obsidian]

i see

i mean also ficool hates vgui too lol only insane people (like me ) are able to handle vgui lol

[summer steeple]

don't lie, no one that can handle vgui likes it

they just tolerate it

[spare obsidian]

i do because there's no other option lol

its either slapping a browser on top of vgui or ASW ui lol

basically pick your evil lol

[potent wolf]

lol

[summer willow]

what is madcap?

[cursive peak]

A shit joke based on a shit workshop cosmetic.

[summer willow]

ah

brazil servers died for some reason but is coming back

[limpid panther]

this guy in a twitch chat says he did the pony b4nny

[crisp cedar]

a good joke if used sparingly

[next nymph]

a good joke based on a good workshop cosmetic

[left sand]

This item has been accepted for inclusion in Team Fortress 2.

[small siren]

*This item has been

accepted for inclusion

in Team Fortress 2.*

- mcoms

[kind falcon]

This item has been accepted for inclusion in Team Fortress 2.

[small siren]

*This item has been

accepted for inclusion

in Team Fortress 2.*

- lowrule

[hoary geyser]

are other people's pfps disabled for anyone else in tf2?

[kind falcon]

#community-archived message

[hoary geyser]

👍

[wild grove]

So the steam beta is going to add animated avatar support for other games or something?

[formal dew]

cs2 has animated avatar support so something probably just broke

[kind falcon]

https://imgur.com/a/sRsF2nG

idk probably is trying to use a format that is unable to be processed. for now

[crisp cedar]

source?

[kind falcon]

engine

[wild grove]

there is no source, I am just speculating, and mainly asking why it involves the steam beta.

[summer willow]

new wave of bots in brazil server but now named "Viva Cristo Rei"

[small siren]

*new wave of bots in

brazil server but now named

"Viva Cristo Rei"*

- _jakez

[summer willow]

and weirdly nobody tried to kick, when i tried everyone voted to no

[wild grove]

Are they high ping or low ping?

[summer willow]

i didn't see, probably low

also could be just some people testing bots and not a new wave, the bots didn't even work properly

[hoary geyser]

hm if I extract the mastercomfig vpks with vpk.exe, there are no files in them

guys I think mastercomfig has been a placebo this whole time!

[summer willow]

when vpk.exe doesnt work properly for decades

[high current]

It misses files pretty frequently. Not all the time, but I'd just check the github

[summer willow]

i cant preload viewmodel animations, something changed? i tried https://gamebanana.com/wips/77481

hmmm ill check later

[hoary geyser]

yeah yeah cover it up all you want, I know the truth now

[summer steeple]

i don't even bother with unpacking via vpk.exe

i just use gcfscape

[wild maple]

is there a command to logs particles that are spawning

[kind falcon]

i don’t think so

[paper sluice]

fo rom shounic vid
credited https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/980509081204846622.webp?size=48&name=igotbroadsinatlanta&quality=lossless

[grim parcel]

BAKUGO???

bro

bnha fans have gone too far

why is he playing tf2

[left sand]

he doesnt mention the jolt stuff at all

like who worked on it

and who tested it

also he didnt mention the networking optimizations

it wasnt the server hradware upgrade

this is so weird

he basically avoided talking about anything relevant in order to credit himself in the video for doing everything

[kind falcon]

@shounic. listen up fucker. credit everyone who ever played team fortress the second

[left sand]

like why does he talk about update rate and cmd rate exclusively

instead of the threading trick which actually makes it smooth

and he doesnt credit ficool for making the physics swapper

just a weird guy all around

[stone nebula]

true

[left sand]

hes terrible to his community

and he is just so clout driven in his videos to make himself look cool

its just so sad

[kind falcon]

ok please tell him that.

[left sand]

i have lol

say what you will about tyler, he gives credit

like properly

[kind falcon]

which tyler? the creator?

[stone nebula]

the vicker

[limpid panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcHxiWwubnk

[crisp cedar]

i dont like the vicker

[proper tangle]

the tyler?

[fleet kite]

I saw that video in my feed and I went hmmmm considering some of his other videos

[wild maple]

don't go at 12:56 and look at the spray on the right in the last shounic video

[left sand]

im so glad that it's worth misleading everyone on how the 100 player server actually works just for some clout or something

i really find it interesting when a documentary youtuber conducts interviews and then completely excludes talking about the people he interviewed, its very normal behavior

like thats totally what mark rober, tom scott, etc do /s

they totally act like know it alls /s

especially at the cost of accuracy and misleading their audience with blatantly false and unhelpful information to make it seem like 100 player servers are exclusive to you and inaccessible to others

like great job straight up lying about the hardware requirements to run it smooth

[fleet kite]

tom scott makes an effort to present local experts in his videos but I agree with what you're saying

[stone nebula]

yea i dont really think he tries to act like a know it all

i'd say his content is about the experts a lot of the time

https://youtu.be/eMTZvA8iFgI

[summer steeple]

shounic is at his best when he's just documenting shit

but his solutions to issues are terrible

[left sand]

thats my point

[left sand]

thats literally my point

im saying literally like

im being sarcastic

like im saying thats totally what other documentary youtubers do when they present something

and they totally show how they did it all by themselves

because i was trying to make a point that like

no one else does this kind of shit they show experts

and make it about the experts

TF2 update?

[crisp cedar]

cant be

[left sand]

it might be a phlog taunt fix (but more likely taunt stuff for vscript)

[next nymph]

what im getting from this is that tom scott should interview shounic

[left sand]

also HUD stuff for vscript

new Neck Snap partner taunt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRdbp3CLkwI

[jagged pawn]

zombie

[jagged pawn]

this was my favorite taunt on workshop this year, glad it's in

[fleet kite]

I like how coms was ranting about youtuber integrity and then tf2 update spider sense went off

[left sand]

https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=210366

[fleet kite]

no way. I havent bought many taunts, however

[summer steeple]

the question is, is this improved loading times or is this just fixes for the load time regressions

[crisp cedar]

WAIT

BONE CHILLING BONANZA CASE???

NEW ASSET???

ITS NOT THE SPIDER ANYMORE??

new asset pog

[jagged pawn]

don't they do a new case every three years

[formal dew]

tf2 has gotten more unique assets in 2023 than any year since 2017

we're so back

[summer steeple]

ONLY 2 MAPS WITH KILL WITH PUMPKIN BOMB

WE'RE SO BACK

[left sand]

so when dxvk

xD

[formal dew]

smissmas 23

keep the faith

this is the first time contractor has opened the game since august

[summer steeple]

asked ficool and they say its just regression fixes

[formal dew]

can someone get contractor to make the contracker notice the merasmus contract lines

[summer willow]

asking myself if was just a delirium

[left sand]

recolor

[hoary geyser]

12 new maps cool

[formal dew]

the map inflation is only increasing

soon there will be one million maps

[left sand]

Zombie Infection gamemode

2 Attack/Defend
1 Player Destruction
1 Arena
1 KOTH
2 Payload
5 Zombie infection

[jagged pawn]

I've heard very mixed reviews from the people who played ZI on workshop

[small siren]

*I've heard very mixed

reviews from the people who

played ZI on workshop*

- AbusedTaxpayer

[hoary geyser]

player destruction my beloved

[jagged pawn]

I thought it was 5 ZI did I miscount

[hoary geyser]

also an arena map in the offical map queue?

[formal dew]

taking all bets whether the servers will be brought down by zombies

as happened to vsh

[jagged pawn]

there have already been multiple halloween arena maps

graveyard being the coolest

[formal dew]

now they're not using arena itself but a faux player destruction

namely with graveyard

[summer steeple]

glad slime and corruption got added

they're both real cool

[jagged pawn]

oh no

[crisp cedar]

perks (arena with upgrade mechanic): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029918524
slime (koth brine event, has custom fish npcs that chase players around and kill them): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3028227103
lava pit (gravel pit event): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2612605992
mannsylvania (player destruction, players can temporarily get the vampirism powerup from mannpower): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029652598
sandcastle (degroot keep event): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3031036719
spineyard (payload, has italian mobster skeletons that shoot you with tommy guns): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3028181847
corruption (procedurally generated payload): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2858934869
murky (zombie infection, new gamemode via vscript): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3030503176
atoll (zombie infection): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3030515121
woods (zombie infection): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3030549855
sanitarium (zombie infection): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3030548510
devastation (zombie infection): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3031246748

[left sand]

vscript is awesome

[crisp cedar]

the new taunts
the crypt creeper (spy loop taunt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GEIYP7E1OE
roar o'war (demo): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T282Jaw5p9M
neck snap (soldier partner taunt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRdbp3CLkwI
borrowed bones (medic): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKsWH_-neKU

[drowsy marlin]

did they add new warpaints

[crisp cedar]

idk i dont care

i might play tf2 again

the new maps sound fun

[jagged pawn]

I love lava pit, played it before

wdym procedurally generated

oh my god just clicked it that's so cool

[summer steeple]

well only part of it is procedural

unless they changed that

its just the underworld

[crisp cedar]

missed opportunity to do a vscript class warfare map taking place in a cloning facility

[tacit flare]

Hello knowledgeable people of the source spaghetti, I come seeking information. What did Valve mean by this?

[summer steeple]

last patch had a regression that made load times extremely long

they're now back to normal

[tacit flare]

Pain

[summer willow]

i cant join games xd

i can lesgooo

[dreamy marlin]

I was wondering this too

[crisp cedar]

in a month or in a year

i honestly expect it to be after smissmas because there'd be a huge gap between seasonal updates (smissmas and summer)

[limpid panther]

pounces on you

[jagged pawn]

based on my experiments it's not the initial load in at game start, it's the load into a map. feels way faster now

is trading down for anyone else rn

[dreamy marlin]

The real question is: does this update help the bots problem at all? Sounds like it probably doesn't but a man can hope

[heavy solar]

@dreamy marlin has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[crisp cedar]

no.

[slender nexus]

waiting for steam trust to release (it won't)

[crisp cedar]

if you mean ban waves, they dont put those in patch notes as far as im aware

[dreamy marlin]

true, I guess they could have pushed a banwave without saying anything. Guess we'll see

[crisp cedar]

not to imply there was a ban wave

there wasnt

[orchid sorrel]

Why no war paints

[unborn pecan]

cause war paints r stinky

and valve agrees wit hme

[orchid sorrel]

Someone poop on him

[unborn pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029676566705348679.webp?size=48&name=brahwtfbrah&quality=lossless

brah

[summer willow]

hmmm yeah

[potent wolf]

lol

[unborn pecan]

lolol

[summer willow]

incredible

[unborn pecan]

they both did it at the same time

big poop moment

[dreamy marlin]

was that coordinated or was that just incredible luck lol

[potent wolf]

luck, bad luck

[summer willow]

using tab i can see

[unborn pecan]

valve please fix

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/925784073975250965.webp?size=48&name=Pray&quality=lossless

[dreamy marlin]

I think a similar thing happens with transparent viewmodels and lower DX levels?

[summer willow]

this is being spammed in game

[potent wolf]

lmao

[radiant merlin]

classic door to nowhere

[summer willow]

funny

[radiant merlin]

yeah game still suffering from long queue times

[radiant merlin]

item servers down?

just got the new case

also servers are lagging

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/5233

[wild maple]

tell me this thing is halloween only

I don't want to see it

😭

[summer willow]

imagine an update that has play testing

[summer steeple]

wtf i can't see them THROUGH WALLS

i'm reporting all the bugs i've found on sanitarium rn

[summer steeple]

mind if i use this screenshot for my report?

[summer willow]

you can use

[summer steeple]

thanks!

[radiant merlin]

vscript can hide some vgui stuff now

[summer steeple]

well it could hide stuff before

[radiant merlin]

also rig rps lol

[summer steeple]

but it was much more limited

it used to be 90% stuff from HL2

most of which did not work with tf2's hud

i think one or 2 things worked

[paper sluice]

?

[summer steeple]

SetRPSResult()

[paper sluice]

BRUH

[summer willow]

where to report bugs? the github on valvesoftware source 1 games?

[summer steeple]

yea

[summer willow]

devs from tf2 see?

[summer steeple]

well, if they decide to read it

but yes

its the best way to send a bug in

[spare obsidian]

hi that's me

[summer steeple]

erm, no, you're a hotdog man

[spare obsidian]

and funnt is the fix i find it because i wanted to do some curse shit

like make the HHH have a big head

[spare obsidian]

mat_overlay moment

[serene yarrow]

Fiend any interesting hidden update stuffs

[potent wolf]

i haven't seen anything particularly interesting myself

[serene yarrow]

😭

[spare obsidian]

vscript can hide now vgui elements

[summer steeple]

did they publicize the vscript ui hiding stuff

[spare obsidian]

nope

[summer steeple]

it could already do that

they just added like 4 more

[spare obsidian]

its not up in VDC Wiki yet

i think ficool is the one who updates the wiki for vscript stuffs

[summer steeple]

yeah he does a lot of it

he updated it already

[summer willow]

they updated alot of dll and other things on the windows build but linux and osx just the client,server,engine .so, its normal?

[potent wolf]

yes

[summer willow]

ok

[summer steeple]

so uh

i joined a broken spineyard game

rattled

[summer willow]

uh

idk if related but

z fighting

[summer willow]

seems map related

zumbi demoman is op

also

[summer steeple]

ok so ZI has a round limit of 25

[radiant merlin]

xd

are servers lagging in us?

[summer steeple]

not for me

[radiant merlin]

mmm

there may be an issue with peru and chile servers

everyone is lagging

it happened some days ago to cs2 servers too (not at release date)

[summer steeple]

yeah ok issue i'm having with servers

sometimes i join a server and its locked up after the game ends

i join a game and its already over and it spams the message "game will end in X seconds it is safe to leave"

with X being a negative number

[orchid sorrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/870823893856821318/1160570403937325076/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif?ex=6535246a&is=6522af6a&hm=89413df3cba5d62840efcdd06a77789132a88c2b85af2f86754d14575029c613&

New unusual effect

[summer steeple]

uh oh

i'm getting kicked joining corruption because processing time is exceeded

[radiant merlin]

don't press mouse3

[summer steeple]

lmao

[glass musk]

ugh

is preloading broken

[summer willow]

maybe

[glass musk]

this guy has it working

no idea wtf he did

[summer willow]

i had problem trying to preload a viewmodel animation yesterday but i didnt tested

today i reset my tf2 settings to try but forget

[summer steeple]

my preloading is same as ever

but i only preload animation

also some of the class animations are still broken

[crisp cedar]

well this is great

the purple water goes well with the purple...sky

[glass musk]

@wild grove

can you please help me out

[wild grove]

what

[glass musk]

preloading doesn't work for me

how did you get it to work

I followed your steps

[wild grove]

back then I would just use mastercomfig's module dynamic_background=itemtest in modules.cfg

[glass musk]

have you tested if it works after the new update

[wild grove]

it works for custom animation

anything else no

[glass musk]

https://i.imgur.com/yKvTQzV.png

then how is this possible

what black magic did this person use

@desert sparrow

please clarify embers

[paper sluice]

not telling

[paper sluice]

(check rules (take it to dms ))

[hoary geyser]

my favourite map!

[spare obsidian]

bsp packing really causes a lot of issues

[glass musk]

it's not related to sv_pure bypass

I simply just want to preload the same old mods

[spare obsidian]

and tbh why they keeping using it? i mean having another folder (tf_community) and dump all assets there would be an option tbh

[glass musk]

that always worked in TF2 with preload

[paper sluice]

oh
IDK then

carry on

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1148788017952211024.webp?size=48&name=whatchuwannado&quality=lossless

[radiant merlin]

updoot

[potent wolf]

update again

[paper sluice]

its not even on the blog whart

where

[radiant merlin]

just wait

[paper sluice]

stop looking at steamdb or whatever mfs,.,

stalkers,.,

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1053788758736121886.webp?size=48&name=drseal&quality=lossless

[radiant merlin]

🤔

[dreamy marlin]

Oh thanks, was wondering why I couldn't queue up lol

[radiant merlin]

community fixes when!!?!?1

[potent wolf]

never

[formal dew]

valve doesnt like any of them

[potent wolf]

https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=210500

[summer steeple]

zamn, big changes

(gametracking-tf2 doesn't show maps)

[potent wolf]

soon, hopefully

[spare obsidian]

tbh the missing textures problem could literally be easy to solve in other ways tbh

[dreamy marlin]

is it just me or do reflections look different

[summer willow]

my eyessaaa adasf23kt23gewsav

[summer willow]

seems like in spineyard things are broken

[dreamy marlin]

I am in fact on spineyard lol

[summer willow]

sometimes just stops

[potent wolf]

WTF

[summer willow]

is blinking aaaaaa

[dreamy marlin]

but even like the reflection on my strange rocket launcher looks different

[potent wolf]

CModelLoader::LoadModel was changed 🤔

[hoary geyser]

my shortstop looked weird as well

does it have something to do with spineyard?

wait ew

[summer willow]

probably, idk what is exactly but something that is used in some weapons is broken because something of the map

[summer willow]

.

[dreamy marlin]

Hmm

[crisp cedar]

are halloween packages supposed to give u nothing

[dreamy marlin]

lol someone let me know when it's safe to open my halloween packages then

[crisp cedar]

its safe

i checked my steam inv and my shits there

it just doesnt appear in tf2

[left sand]

when is game tracking repo going to be back 😭

[potent wolf]

I swear i'm working on it 😭

also gametracking-tf2 wouldn't be able to detect that :P

[left sand]

😭

[potent wolf]

wait wha

when did i make it private

btw that repo isn't updated

[potent wolf]

since i built it on my laptop

@left sand it's not private anymore

[jagged pawn]

getting this bug constantly lol

[potent wolf]

not of much use though, i suppose

[wild grove]

What command disables cubemaps?

[summer willow]

mat_specular 0 i guess

some maps is just terrible, not because the map itself but just how source engine works

sometimes i disable because of that

like venice, that is a map that i feel bad for how bad it is

[potent wolf]

more update

[serene yarrow]

updates wee

[summer steeple]

well it kind of is because of the map in some cases

cause some maps don't have cubemaps

[potent wolf]

zi_woods update again

[summer steeple]

zi_woods fixed for real this time

please god

[potent wolf]

[serene yarrow]

VSH flashbacks

[summer steeple]

well in this case its just 1 map

and not the gamemode

the gamemode works flawlessly

and its just that they didn't pack all the assets into this one map

[small siren]

*and its just that they

didn't pack all the assets

into this one map*

- treacherousfiend

[paper sluice]

SECRET leaked 10TH CLASS

hes name is thog

[cursive peak]

Great, this will get ran into the ground like that other fuck.

[glass musk]

never I guess

valve doesn't really seem to like cosmetic community fixes it seems like

[paper sluice]

i made this its not on reddit thog will be fine 🫡

hes our little secret 🤭 🤭 🤭

[cursive peak]

Until it leaks to reddit.

[potent wolf]

too late 🫡

[hoary geyser]

erm saxton hale discrimination?

[summer willow]

i didnt see for this side, like, im already know these things and i kinda forget when i fix how shit that this isnt fixed yet and how people simply cant know, i suggest adding something about in mastercomfig

[left sand]

yeah when is someone gonna add that back

it was there before but removed

[kind falcon]

make those candles white

[summer willow]

game didnt started

[dreamy marlin]

played a lot of games without bots post-update but they're back 😦

[summer willow]

actually maybe making a .sh script that is able to fix the problems with tf2 would be good than making manually

[radiant merlin]

lol

[paper sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1144129228493832242.webp?size=48&name=scandalous&quality=lossless

[summer willow]

real?

[radiant merlin]

https://gamebanana.com/threads/224364

[paper sluice]

how old is 404

[radiant merlin]

is bypass really dead?

[dreamy marlin]

just happened to queue into the same game as mastercoms lol

[paper sluice]

isnt 404 pushing 30

[summer willow]

wait they even killed preloading instead of just the bypass?

preloading is kinda a bypass i think but 😭

[left sand]

hi!

[left sand]

hes pushing 40 or 50

[stone nebula]

and me :3

[livid oracle]

is this the 404 guy

[dreamy marlin]

oh yeah we were both still in the game until just now lol

I got auto-balanced to lose in the last like 4 seconds 🙃

[spare obsidian]

yes

[livid oracle]

#community-archived message

[paper sluice]

#community-archived message

[orchid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-l4d-l4d2-iixluminatixii-gif-12314436

me after playing the new maps (they arent fun)

[paper sluice]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029520186

[orchid sorrel]

valve would still find some way to break this

and then refuse to accept any fixes

[left sand]

i had a lot of fun

[stone nebula]

@jagged pawn hai :3

[jagged pawn]

stay away from me

I really like zombie infection as a concept but most of the maps they chose are complete garbage. I've played 4 of them and only sanitarium was fun

murky you just camp the grass, atoll you just camp that one roof, devastation you just camp in the dark

[unborn pecan]

grapevine spotted

[jagged pawn]

also does anyone know why valve didn't add the fix that makes zi not use default ass arial font lol

it really should use any of the actual tf2 fonts

[summer willow]

murky is heavy as hell damn

[summer steeple]

somehow i am not surprised at all he still hangs out around 4chan

[small siren]

*somehow i am not

surprised at all he still hangs

out around 4chan*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

i think he retired (again) from doing tf2 cut content stuff

but i guess he... still hangs around 4chan

[kind falcon]

so true

[desert sparrow]

check the post dingus i explained it there

[lucid basin]

i cant imagine theyre going to break preloading on the whole

but if they do im gonna be mad

let me keep my viewmodel offset mods

just legalize it ffs

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/2484

https://tenor.com/view/fumo-fumando-queviajem-gif-24383770

net_splitrate 200000 seems to mean that you can send basically as many fragments as you want

ahh

i see

#define NET_QUEUED_PACKET_THREAD_DEBUG_VALUE 581304

that makes sense

sry was just looking over the networking cvars in the shounic thing

[small siren]

*sry was just looking

over the networking cvars

in the shounic thing*

- tslur

[lucid basin]

quiet you

[kind falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1155269832720257036/1159173617217720390/togif.gif?ex=651eec0e&is=651d9a8e&hm=4e2dbdc87942bcfb8bbde0340084413211771f04fba07641007566cfb5665231&

[jagged pawn]

my thoughts now that I've played everything

[kind falcon]

wait, no reused maps from last year?

i liked the one that had em uh . yes the

[jagged pawn]

I mean all the old halloween maps are still there obviously

just ranking the new ones

[glass musk]

you didn't but ok

clearly 80% of people can't get it to work with your instructions

[desert sparrow]

yes i did

[glass musk]

anyways it's broken in one way or another

it doesn't work as well as it used to

[glass musk]

I just saw your edited comment

vscript preload map renamed to what?

[desert sparrow]

if you cant be assed to read the basic mastercomfig guide then noone can save you

[glass musk]

real helpful

I did actually read the mastercomfig guide

[desert sparrow]

no you didnt

or you'd know it tells you what the map is called

preload_room

[glass musk]

already did that lmao

multiple times

its just patched

[desert sparrow]

did you read the instructions for the vscript preload map

[glass musk]

yes

[desert sparrow]

because i fuckin bet you didnt

[glass musk]

I did all of that

lmao

[desert sparrow]

here's my overrides folder

and here's what i have in my scripts>vscripts folder

theyre the same file, one's just renamed because i have no idea which the map pulls from

[glass musk]

maybe they're getting overwritten by something like the guy above said

[desert sparrow]

sure maybe

either way i gave you everything you could need here

(that im allowed to redistribute)

[glass musk]

wtf

let me try this again

thanks for the files

[desert sparrow]

youll need to either change my config to suit you or reset your config and figure out what works later

because my config is weird

i have medic calling bound to mouse4

i have an undisguise button bound to e on spy and last disguise to q

i have a dedicated conga button on T

[kind falcon]

omg erm ban this individual!!!!!! spreading malware and hacks.

[glass musk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sushi-cat-sushi-yoyo-cute-cat-gif-16203342588798045770

[void slate]

But you only see them in first-person

[wild grove]

Preloading still works with custom animations.

it seems like preloading any other model is borked tho.

[wild grove]

A 30 year old butthurt that the modding community beated his ass.

Thank god none of his community fixes are getting accepted.

[small siren]

*Thank god none of his

community fixes are

getting accepted.*

- woshee

[wild grove]

Fuck valve tho, both modders and war painters take Ls once again.

[spare obsidian]

The issue repo is becaming a battlefield now lol

[high current]

Valve removing an exploit people enjoyed for like a month and people are outraged. Tbh people need to chill. If valve wanted custom models to be allowed they’d whitelist custom models, but they didn’t do that… because they don’t want custom models😱

[potent wolf]

This is about the new-ish svpure stuff, correct?

[high current]

If valve removed the traditional means of preloading that basically just allowed for some custom hud materials, I’d get it. But sv_pure was literally added to prevent abusing custom models, so of course they’re gonna patch bypassing it.

[high current]

From what I can tell yes. My custom hud materials and viewmodel animations still work.

[spare obsidian]

viewmodels are debatable since you can't do anything when you can change them

world models is another story

[high current]

View models are models though. It’d be a lot of work to hand pick what to allow. And it would be easier to just use the whitelist feature they added years ago

[potent wolf]

maybe an odd question, but does anyone know how long the new svpure bypass has been in the game?

[spare obsidian]

anyways, this is a lost cause

valve patches something

someone finds a bypass of a bypass lol

is a mouse and cat game

valve would soon or later realize this is not worth and gave up lol

just like when they tried to stop bots lol

[high current]

I mean, it took over a decade for people to find this or for Valve to accidentally add it. I'd say vavle is by far winning this one

[high current]

Honestly if valve just removed VAC entirely, then game integrety wouldnt be an issue. Just let everyone cheat in every way and the game is totally fair🤷‍♂️
/s

[crisp cedar]

the oldest anarchy tf2 server

[spare obsidian]

simple, just kill windows support

[high current]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-convention-arch-linux-kali-linux-linux-mint-gif-25225132

[spare obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-gif-26558298

[wild grove]

Sv_pure was not changed at all lol

The regression fixes to load times also fixed something related to preloading or didn't and it's the disorganized code again.

[lean cove]

since its patched now what was it

[wild grove]

it's not patched, it's now super inconsistent.

[wild grove]

It seems to be back to square one again if you do the normal preload, only animations work.

[spare obsidian]

like i said is not worth fixing it because you either introduce a problem

or you break the engine lol

[wild grove]

I wish they would add the fix for cosmetic lighting, it's been in valve limbo for a while.

[orchid sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcaAyoSeO1g

name jumpscare

[spare obsidian]

hello Dr Cactus from props_nature

[limpid panther]

guys

remember all of those people over the months/years that complain about very high end systems having weird stutters only while doing an "orbiting" motion?

I think I may have discovered at least one of the reasons for it

I am in the market for a new mouse to replace my G700s that is kind of old. So I was trying out my brother's G603

this "gaming" mouse has an abysmal 125 pooling rate

and I saw exactly the problem described

and it makes totally sense. If you refresh your mouse less often than your fps, and then you move the camera at a velocity that is fast, but not fast enough that you can't discern the map's geometry, you get can clearly see it

but what surprises me is how unoticeable it is when you are not doing that "orbiting" motion

now I'm gonna go back and suggest this to a few people that might have experienced it

[hoary geyser]

zombie infection seems cool but woods doesn't seem like the greatest map lol

[stone nebula]

atoll.

should notexist

[spare obsidian]

oh no

[hoary geyser]

yeah atoll kind of sucks as well lol

murky was nice though

[kind falcon]

since vscript release you dummy…

[wild grove]

It prolly has been in the game in secret since sv_pure was a thing.

and was only recently discovered a couple of months ago

[kind falcon]

im bombing your house

[wild grove]

Why are you booing me? I'm right!

[high current]

that's not a great thing to say on the internet. or at all

[kind falcon]

i agree with you. however, here’s my weapon of choice

[wild grove]

A water balloon?

(I hope you get the reference!)

[kind falcon]

a water baboon

[paper sluice]

The “tf2 cosmetic artstyle” is kinda interesting

Cuz like

It’s not really the tf2 style

It’s even more stylized and it kinda just like happened idk when cosmetics started to get “that style”

But like it’s the standard now

Like the cosmetic style is more like what fortnite was going for in the early seasons

It’s not a bad style it’s just like a weird evolution

But I guess it makes sense for like the silhouettes and shid

It’s like the exaggeration of that principle

[wild grove]

It's cause most of the people working on cosmetics now do other works too.

Honestly like the evolution of the style despite hiccups along the way.

[paper sluice]

I think it looks good in some places, others I think it’s too much

Loses some subtlety

It’s like how characters in media sometimes eventually become a caricature of themselves over time

[wild grove]

Actually it's because the modelers and texturers got better.

[paper sluice]

Prolly
Part of the look of old cosmetics is just how like almost generic they are in terms of shape, only with slight exaggerations in proportion
How a lot of the stuff geometrically isn’t really that special, except for the player models
Like with guns it just comes to making weird and exaggerated proportions rather than like tapering or anything special, and ofc it’s texture
The tf2 style was really carried by the textures originally

[wild grove]

2015 with gun mettle.

[paper sluice]

I didn’t play then 💪

[wild grove]

I didn't play til 2016, fucking hate that I didn't play sooner.

I could've gotten some rare shit.

[paper sluice]

lol

[wild grove]

at least I experienced an major.

What carries the game to this day is it's cartoony nature.

[paper sluice]

I wouldn’t really call it cartoony it’s just stylized

[wild grove]

like a giant ass minigun that someone can hold like it's a cardboard box?

[paper sluice]

Yeahj

It bends reality

[wild grove]

there is currently 1791 cosmetics in the game. holyyy

[paper sluice]

Wtf

Is there a cap on how many backpack pages you can have

[wild grove]

game has been out for 15 years, doesn't surprise me.

[paper sluice]

Cuz if there is I wonder if we’d ever reach it with a single type of each item

[wild grove]

yes but people have different tastes in cosmetics.

so no one is gonna collect all of em.

[paper sluice]

I’m talking hypothetically..,,.

[wild grove]

hypothetically maybe

prolly actually

[spare obsidian]

basically art style in games are art and like art it evols, really people should stop being "new bad, old good"

[wild grove]

nice perspective hot dog knuckles

[spare obsidian]

i mean i said this because I'm novice at game dev lol

[wild grove]

The issue is that people want different things from cosmetics and valve doesn't know how to balance selection so it can appeal to most.

like I want serious stuff and mildy goofy items like something referencing a piece of media I know about or a animated buzzsaw mohawk.

[spare obsidian]

yeah and i agree with you like i want like a cosmetic that for example references the comics in some way

like for example I really like the neck snap taunt

[paper sluice]

We NEED a sexbom tattoo cosmetic

[wild grove]

I want that war paint based on the plane from the comics in the game.

[kind falcon]

60

[wild grove]

60?!

[kind falcon]

so 3000 items

[wild grove]

Holy shit

[spare obsidian]

how tf do you fill 60 pages

[paper sluice]

Secret da tons

Da tons

[kind falcon]

^

[paper sluice]

Saxtonz

[kind falcon]

fax

[paper sluice]

Mf

[wild grove]

get every cosmetic in strange, and you'd have room for weapons, war paints still

[kind falcon]

not every cosmetic is available in strange

nerd emoji

[wild grove]

sadly not

[kind falcon]

not every weapon

is

[wild grove]

sadly not too

[kind falcon]

true. need my strange festive dragon fury

[wild grove]

a strange dragons fury would be awesome.

[wild grove]

I used to parrot him back in like 2022 before I stopped and became more lenient and have my own opinions.

[summer steeple]

last updated in smissmas... 2021? i think the limit is 400 items

oh i'm totally wrong

2017

up to 3000 items

[kind falcon]

wow fiend how could you

[wild grove]

lmao was gonna say

[kind falcon]

economy isn’t your strongest side

[wild grove]

bro repeated what you stated.

[summer steeple]

i saw skyrym's question and then scrolled all the way down

[wild grove]

lol

[kind falcon]

anyway more of a fiend related answer. Did you know you can actually modify your client’ backpack cap and that would work seamlessly?

the more you know…

[summer steeple]

i did not know that

[kind falcon]

@potent wolf implement that in fiendhook pls ty

[wild grove]

Wait what.

[wild grove]

That's cool tho wtf

Never knew that

[orchid sorrel]

Potato event is officially over, we raised about $43k in a month

double what we raised last time

last event im involved with, so at least it ended on a good note

[spare obsidian]

damn no more funny Cactus missions?

[orchid sorrel]

Probably not for a while yea

[high current]

The cap is 50 pages

Unless they’ve increased it. I have whatever the max expanded backpack is. I can check next time I boot up the game.

[crisp cedar]

they seem to have made an unified installer for all the tf2 sourcemods

also intcoms? what are these knockoff copies

[livid oracle]

wheres floatcoms

[next nymph]

unsigned long longcoms

[paper sluice]

Boolcoms

[unborn pecan]

I rememberi ntcoms

https://adastral.net/

huh

coming soon

https://github.com/AdastralGroup/Adastral-cli

LOLOL

last update may 15

[summer willow]

aaaaa

i had this idea sometime ago of making an unified installer for tf2 sourcemods but i didnt go after to see if existis or talk to someone about

the only thing that i had was the name "manifold"

but good to see that exists

the GUI is made with godot, cool

[crisp cedar]

GGGGGODT???

[proper tangle]

GODOT MENTIONED

[summer willow]

what

[next nymph]

they are big fans of Samuel Beckett's 1953 play Waiting for Godot

[drowsy marlin]

What team is this pyro on?

[left sand]

blu

[drowsy marlin]

One vote for Blu

Anyone else?

[paper sluice]

bluen

[crisp cedar]

blue because the trackpants are colored a team paint

[runic dew]

red

[crisp cedar]

explain

[runic dew]

theres a bit of red clipping through his shoulder

[crisp cedar]

ohhh fuuuuck

[paper sluice]

lolo

[crisp cedar]

that's okay

[tacit flare]

People still believe Valve care about the game integrity of TF2. Lol, lmao even.

[spare obsidian]

do not talk about artstyle in the mastercomfig server

[proper tangle]

I love all cosmetics equally

as in I use the mod to remove them all

[orchid sorrel]

Noob detected noob detected

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-gif-26558298

[drowsy marlin]

typical normie opinion

[spare obsidian]

do not let gamers have gamedev opinions challenge (impossible)

[wild grove]

Side profile and back profile pls

if you don't do it, I'll do it myself.

[next nymph]

that puro is on the green team

[wild grove]

post this image to anger people.

lmao this combination is so funny

gnome has seen some shit

[next nymph]

post this image to awesome people

[wild grove]

ronald mcdonald pyro mod is now 50% real

(this isn't bad)

no wait wait

we're missing the one key ingredient

THERE WE GO

we need more pyro hair

[dreamy marlin]

He played a bunch of games wearing those cosmetics and got a ton of hilarious clips of people mistaking him for the wrong team

A decent argument for the no hats mod tbh. Does that mod work in casual?

[next nymph]

underneath all these cosmetics, this is a blu spy

[next nymph]

ya

[cursive peak]

How many people are actually using those loadouts, though? They're pretty ugly.

[wild grove]

I only saw it once, used it once and never worked, idk where he was playing in.

[high current]

I just run no hats mod cuz im a sweaty 6s gamer and like having player models look consistent.
But I whitelist my own hats😎

[dreamy marlin]

At least that I know of. It just popped up on my lemmy front page

[high current]

I think people complaining about art styles serves only as a form of elitism and holds back creativity in 99% of cases. There’s a handful of situations where something just looks as jarring my out of place as the closeups in SpongeBob, but those are pretty rare.

[cursive peak]

Probably found a server full of fresh installs.

"Teehee, I'm going to do a le epic troll with le funny meme!" Votekicked.

[wild grove]

I do think waders and baggies needs it's paint regions changed or removed, but I think the creator already sent something to VALVe and they didn't add it yet or want to add it. everything else is stupid tho.

[dreamy marlin]

I guess he did sound a little condescending/elitist in that 1 vid of his I watched so I probably shouldn't be surprised

[cursive peak]

"Can you tell what team I'm on?" as the ban message/reason would be funny, too.

[wild grove]

that team rec video is 99% garbage, the 1% that is good is the editing and the whole thing with the waders + baggies. but that's like what? 2 cosmetics out of 1791 that has that issue?

[crisp cedar]

he has a fair point but i dont rly care

i like hats :)

[formal dew]

the hat issue was inevitable under the capitalist cycle of artistic development

I cut the knot by thinking that most people wont use many of the most obnoxious cosmetics because they're obnoxious

[wild grove]

it's cause people have different tastes in what they want from cosmetics, some want the silly goofy stuff, some want serious, some want both.

which is why there should be a balance of both in a case

2020 and 2021 was way too leaning on the silly goofy

2022 and now is better 100%, I think if it stayed that way til the end of time, I wouldn't be upset at all

[crisp cedar]

ok but the problem is that the cosmetics literally are using the colors of the opposite team

like

thats the entire problem

dae artstyle who cares

[wild grove]

Exactly but those are the only 2 I've seen where it is a actual legit issue, but also the loadout is really ugly, i don't see most players wearing the combination unless they were attempting to be malicious or are meming.

We need a hamburger eating taunt so we can finally have hamburgler spy

[summer willow]

modern casual preloader now has a script to generate the list but... java?

[wild grove]

it's for module generation

back then it was a list of model directories in a text file.

that you had to copy paste

[summer willow]

i know

[wild grove]

It was absolutely painful

[summer willow]

well im just nitpicking because is a .jar but whatever

real questions

i can preload from the mod .vpk or i need to extract the vpk to then the preloader works?

[summer willow]

hmmm, preload seems to kindaaa work...

[livid oracle]

funke already made that video

[paper sluice]

and funke is like cooler so

funke 1 other guy idk

[dreamy marlin]

yeah funke is great

[wild grove]

and either people didn't watch the vid fully or their selective hearing is super good.

[dreamy marlin]

I didn't know about the vid

[wild grove]

I've watched this video many times, dude really forgot about after eight on the whole thing with alternatives of black and white.

FUNKe left the tf2 ship long ago.

Any content creator over a TF2 one any day.

except for those cringe ass clickbait let's players.

GMOD KILLER?!!

[unborn pecan]

FUNKe still plays tf2 on stream

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/666008714393944064.webp?size=48&name=funkeHmm&quality=lossless

I would know this since I am #1 funke fanatic in this server

[dreamy marlin]

Yeah he was streaming TF2 last night lol

I like his non-TF2 content too

[unborn pecan]

also

FUNKe's normal content is miles better than TF2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/508272488610922497.webp?size=48&name=funkeuhh&quality=lossless

that's right

I just said that

[drowsy marlin]

Funke

[unborn pecan]

FUNKe

u dingwad

[drowsy marlin]

Fucke

[unborn pecan]

FUNKle

[dreamy marlin]

It's like MF DOOM's "all caps when you spell the man's name" except minus the E

[unborn pecan]

FUNKe

FUNKe FUNKE

[livid oracle]

youre wrong its bad because i wasted 10 mins of my life watching his movement shooter video that's just a long-winded way of saying "i enjoyed playing doom 2016"

[drowsy marlin]

Doom 2016 was a nice game at the time though

[unborn pecan]

you problem

crawl space

more like

squat roo

mm

[jagged pawn]

DID SOMEONE SAY FUNKE

https://tenor.com/view/nintendo-switch-baahh-tada-hi-gif-12601447

[high current]

Honestly idk if Zesty is even contrarian, I think he just says things people sorta agree with, but with way more condesendingly and rudely. But he has made valid points sometimes. Don't watch him enough to know if he is contrarian though.
I actually think funke's movement shooter series is some of his best content. His category for it is extremely arbitrary, but its a decent "i like these games for these reasons" series.

But ageed on them both being annoying 75% of the time or more.

[wild grove]

"some people agree with"

[high current]

I feel like his most viewed videos are shitting on cosmetics, which I've seen people do in here and in the huds.tf pretty frequently.
Granted I disagree with the whining about artstyle, but I tend to be in the minority whenever that topic comes up.

[wild grove]

yeah, this day and age with communities, toxicity sells.

being positive doesn't.

[drowsy marlin]

Nuh uh

[high current]

Yeh I'm moreso saying his brand is toxicity instead of contrarian. Though toxicity probably is a hair harsh for him, I'd probably just say abrasive

[drowsy marlin]

That's incorrect

[wild grove]

hmm, maybe it is but this community certainly feels negative af

[high current]

Yeh community is going to take your defining characteristic and turn it up to 10,000. So doing that to an abrasive character is just down right toxic

[livid oracle]

i will be rewatching the video to see if my opinion of it has changed since 4 yrs ago

i dont really have actual serious opinions about funke i just think videogame video essay content is generally kinda pretentious

like when i watched that movement shooter video it feels like it's trying to make itself seem more than just saying "i like doom 2016 you should play it"

[high current]

Yeh his first 1 or 2 were the best. I think after that he was just stating the obvious and trying to use as many words in the thesaurus he could find

[livid oracle]

also "movement shooter" just feels like such a forced category of games

titanfall 2 and doom have fucking nothing in common lol

[small siren]

*titanfall 2 and

doom have fucking nothing in

common lol*

- crawl space

[high current]

And he ran out of actual games and just kinda reviewed demos and did the same thing all demo review channels do. Go "the game is shit, but its in early access and the dev says its going to be cool!"

[livid oracle]

its just "fps games that i like"

people call fortnite a movement shooter because you can sprint and vault

[small siren]

*people call fortnite

a movement shooter because

you can sprint and vault*

- crawl space

[livid oracle]

literally just a nonsensical category

[summer steeple]

a movement shooter is an fps game where you move

[high current]

Didn't he list valorant in one?

[summer steeple]

so technically, every single fps game

[high current]

When there was literally a single character who could move and "shoot" with their ultimate like 3 rounds in a game?

[dreamy marlin]

I think all shooters exist on a movement-shooter spectrum between "I can only move with WASD and spacebar" and "I can constantly wallrun, quintuple jump, rocket jump, and have 14 different types dashes/teleports/grapples"

Doesn't have to be black and white. I wouldn't call valorant a movement shooter overall but there are characters with quick dash abilities and stuff

[high current]

This was when jett was the only one

I feel like teleports and dashes generally feel like cop-outs for movement games. Like I've never in my life used a teleport mechanic and gone "damn that felt good."
Dashes often feel the same but a few games pull it off.

[orchid sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/655472399713828865/1161666209767497819/Team_Fortress_2_-_OpenGL_2023-07-19_17-32-48.mp4?ex=653920f7&is=6526abf7&hm=73c21749584599c24ec0d7329b2f35f90510c7083b5ae4597ff82a6ce9a97ecd&

the most powerful scout player

[unborn pecan]

he did that as a joke

[high current]

I'm gonna need a citation on that statement

Too many people try to take back on things they say by claiming its a joke

[livid oracle]

never liked dashes/slides

a lot of "movement shooter" type games that have like grapples and dashes and such dont feel like your momentum matters

i enjoy quake/source-style blast jumping and airstrafing because it feels like you're a physical object

a dash just feels like it has no physicality to it

grapples have a lot of different implementations, though most popular implementations just feel like cop outs

[high current]

Agreed. I can't really think of any good examples of grapples but I know I've played one. Maybe Apex pathfinder grapple? Though it's only good because of quirks. And source engine ofc

[livid oracle]

like you press a button on a specific spot to basically zoom to it with no care for your current velocity

[high current]

Yeh I think the best dashes are ones that are more of a way to preserve momentum.

[livid oracle]

also i think wallrunning is overhyped i think it's fine but ppl act like it's some sort of supreme movement when it feels scripted most of the time

[high current]

Also anyone here play tribes ascend? The movement was weird but so good. Rocket jumping and the ability to disable friction, eveyrthing became a surf map😍

[livid oracle]

it feels like the hype with wallrunning is less about its mechanics and more about how it looks cool irl

[high current]

The only wallrunning I have enjoyed was dirty bomb, that game actually had pretty solid movement and shooting. It was before its time though

[livid oracle]

like ppl keep showing clips of epic wallrunning and it's like

it looks scripted

like the game obviously put those walls there for u to wallrun on them

how is that better than like Press X to Grapple on a specific spot

[high current]

Yeh wall running often feels so magnetic because of animations that it ends up being clunk, same with vaulting. Like was crouch jumping really too hard for people?

[livid oracle]

vaulting you mean like ledge grabbing?

[high current]

Ledge grabbing and/or hurdling ig you could call it. Both are lumped in as "vaulting" in a lot of games

[livid oracle]

wow epic

lots of movement options here

wallrun on the left wall, wallrun on the right wall, wallrun on the left wall, holy hell epic movement

[high current]

GTTOD feels attacked by that. But honestly that game is sorta the opitome of "forced" wall running. And its level design is like it wants to show it off at any point it can. I'm not a fan

[livid oracle]

these games should make actual levels instead of trying to do csgo surf maps

[high current]

I agree. Someone needs to make a good arena shooter that isn't just a quake clone.

[livid oracle]

like the joy of traversal for me isnt about putting myself on rails to watch the game show off grappling and wallrunning or whatever

it's about how i can use it impulsively and shit

[high current]

I think Ultra Kill is a solid example of returning to old concepts while staying unique.
It's clearly retro but isn't just a remake of an old game.

[livid oracle]

like i enjoy rocketjumping in tf2 a lot because you can do it anywhere you can launch yourself anywhere

[high current]

Yeh, I like to go fast because of a mastery of the movement, not because the dev gave me a "go fast" button

[livid oracle]

you can do it at any time

you use it during combat, you use it to enter combat, you use it to exit combat

infinite ways to use it

instead of just using it on a glorified racetrack

[unborn pecan]

I hate the movement stuff in overwatch

like how yo ugotta press a button to do it

feels so unsatisfying

[high current]

Overwatch is the opitome of bad modern movement. They have those "flashy" movement options, but ZERO momentum. The moment your "rocket jump" ends you come to a hault. The moment your grapple ends, you come to a dead stop. It feels so bad. It's genuinely a crime

[livid oracle]

literally i still havent seen a more satisfying movement mechanic in videogames than blast jumping + airstrafing

[high current]

Very true. Or ramp sliding into a rocket jump, that's my favorite thing in tf2

[unborn pecan]

I like the movement in hollow knight

and how you can use the abilities to get a nice momentum by staying in the air with the enemies

[high current]

I wonder what tf2 would be like if it had quake-style bunny hopping with no speed cap and auto-hop

[livid oracle]

maps are really not built for that

[wild grove]

Don't play tf2 halloween in the U.S later in the night, worst mistake of my life! (Bots every match.)

[heavy solar]

@wild grove has earned the Level 2 role!

[crisp cedar]

do the green bars represent player counts or something

first time noticing this

[potent wolf]

I think so?

[crisp cedar]

a good amount of other maps are less populated which makes sense for hte season

these have almost no bars

some slightly larger than others

[potent wolf]

yep

the graveyard category

[hoary geyser]

wait they do? I thought they represented player ratings lol

[small siren]

*wait they do? I thought

they represented player

ratings lol*

- mederp

[hoary geyser]

that actually explains a lot

[potent wolf]

players ratings?

[hoary geyser]

like the ratings at the end of the match

[potent wolf]

oh those

i think those go into the incinerator

[hoary geyser]

yeah probably

[slender nexus]

yeah they represent current server player activity (although I don't know if it's showing worldwide or your matchmaking region)

[crisp cedar]

painnn

[hoary geyser]

should have paid the mob their money

[summer steeple]

i wonder if the player counts are bugged

iirc they were bugged for VSH

i assume it might have something to do with the fact that they go for 25 roounds

[summer steeple]

i hate when i lose progress that i've made on my

[summer willow]

tf2 hud idea

[kind falcon]

Cool

[summer willow]

wait

trying to explain but im dumb 1 minute

instead of plain text to show the key

i guess you can use something like a custom font or just plain image to show the button and be like any modern game

also changing these stupid buttons to something that makes sense, just some of the huds change and is game changer

[summer steeple]

the thing is as well is doesn't source already support this

actually i know it does, but i think the issue is that its not particularly intuitive for hud creators

[radiant merlin]

you can't have text and image inside a button i think

so you would have to use a custom font

[next nymph]

Ive never had good results with modding the bitmap font, myself

Easy enough to just change the existing glyphs for the controller buttons, but anything else?

though you dont necessarily need that, you could recreate the above with regular fonts and imagepanels

[high current]

You probably could do this with a CExButton actually. I think image+text is kinda the exact use case of that element, though most instances of it are just images or just text, but it supports subbuttons, so should work. Though I'm speaking from memory here.

If that wasn't an option, then you could always just add an image on top of the button and add the parameter: "mouseinputenabled" "0" to the image so you could click through it. That means it wouldn't obey hover effects, and it wouldn't have any logic beyond being a predefined bind, but neither do those buttons anyway.

[heavy solar]

@high current has earned the Level 1 noob role!

[drowsy marlin]

What is the oldest bug in Team Fortress 2?

[slender nexus]

the game takes place in the 60s and 70s so that finders fee bug hat must be pretty old now

[unborn pecan]

the community

[drowsy marlin]

You're part of the community

[unborn pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029676566705348679.webp?size=48&name=brahwtfbrah&quality=lossless

brah what the tuna

don't reveal me like that

[drowsy marlin]

You're older than team fortress 2

[unborn pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1118651357403021384.gif?size=48&name=CatCat&quality=lossless

secrets exist for reasons

[radiant merlin]

shadows through walls

[wild grove]

Performance related

[kind falcon]

its relevance

[mystic turtle]

The oldest bug is source spaghetti
Thing carried on buggy physics code that can ultimately be traced back to the quake engine
but the possibilities were so loved that they made the bugs into features
especially bhopping and blast jumping

[heavy solar]

@mystic turtle has earned the Level 1 noob role!

[mystic turtle]

I still suck at TF2, that opinion is valid

[crisp cedar]

regarding the dev cycle of the modern tf2, probably the civilian

atleast the oldest most obvious one

well idk if its a bug but iirc you can still civilian in tf2

unless i missed fixes

also like

oldest how

still in the game

or like oldest period, regardless of fix

[mystic turtle]

Yeah, that happens still
And if your connection is garbo, some people can end up in an apose on your side while still being able to attack and such and it's hilarious
wrath of the a-posing creature of the 2fort sewer

[limpid panther]

probably strafing

or Z fighting

[next nymph]

rocket jumping

[limpid panther]

rocket jumping is older than strafing?

although, I think both are in quake

but they probably implemented movement before rocket launchers

[high current]

iirc strafing was exploited in quake speedruns before rocket jumping. But I think the first implementation of it was that strafing into a wall while you walked forward made you walk slightly faster. So not quite the strafing we know and love

[unborn pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-gif-26558298

me launchign fienhdhood on my pentium 2

[livid oracle]

spamming a and d while moving forward is also faster

the faster you spammed it, the faster you go

idk if wall run or zigzagging was discovered first

[high current]

Yeh I think the whole wishdir system in id engine just didn't work as intended. But that mistake is arguably the best thing to ever happen to gaming.

[summer willow]

this sometimes happen in zombie maps

also this images is fire 🔥

textures arent fixed but now you cant see trough walls