#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year
potent wolf
slender nexus
🙀
crisp cedar
no i dont.
slender nexus
big pp
high current
I was going to say “that’s just what happens when you spectate someone with the ambi”, but naw he just made it that big.
So my other two guesses would be 1: he plays at a high res like 1440p or 2560p, where the crosshairs scale with resolution, so that crosshair would be 4 times smaller than it appears at 1080p. Maybe they play at 4k but recorded the demo in 1080p to save on storage?
2: maybe they play spy and melee hitboxes don’t require precise aim, so having a fast but imprecise idea of where your aim is superior to a slower more precise crosshair?
Or potentially, they’re a funny meme lord and they either like seeing comments about their cursed crosshair or it doesn’t bother them because they’re using 1 interp so stuff feels so generally bad that the crosshair feels fine in comparison.
Honestly I think this is most likely because the way they were rotating as if matadoring, while still clearly in front of their target, suggests they know they use forked settings.
crisp cedar
i see
radiant merlin
summer steeple
i don't know much about this topic but i'm about 99% sure this person is completely fucking wrong
radiant merlin
i think that's what some games with player customization do
summer steeple
i'm also just not sure what the hell they mean
sacrificing detail for extra memory usage???
like
A. what detail, seriously, what kind of detail
B. why is memory usage your concern in a game that doesn't even come close to hitting the 4GB cap of a 32 bit program
C. why would sacrificing detail increase memory usage
summer steeple
i'm not going to watch this whole thing but seeing the flamethrower comparison again is so funny
cause in 2007 this like not super bright 2fort indoor light is causing the flamethrower to light up like the sun
completely crushing the colors
all the lighting in the comparisons make the characters stand out in a way that isn't good
potent wolf
by doing custom implementations in the player entity, such as adding a string where you could define model location and other things like hat offsets, particle offsets & such, valve could then add this to a "player renderer" that would put the stuff in the correct place, without using any extra entities. valve took in on the easy way by just linking entities to the player, which if you use enough hats, 1 player can take many entity slots. valve then realizing that using the latter is slightly expensive - they probably removed a lot of details from weapons and maps in a attempt to fix it
what even
summer steeple
ah yes the edict limit has everything to do with... lighting..?
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
honestly the continued discussion of this shitty crowbcat video is a nice reminder that a lot of gamers just go "woah shiny, i like", and are exactly why real time raytraced reflections are still a hot selling point for games
like I get why people want extra detail on their weapons, but it sticks out like a sorethumb on the more subdued look of the rest of the game
valve """"removed"""" detail because it looked terrible in practice
there are some cases where yes, it is a downgrade
but most of the choices are intentional as they tried to make the game look more consistent
and i hate people talking about realism when it comes to tf2's artstyle
because who cares, its a cartoony video game
it doesn't need to look realistic it needs to look good
I skipped around that vid you posted and got to the part where he saw the water splashes, which i'm pretty sure are just reused from HL2 and don't really fit with TF2 water and its just... ugh
visual clarity > realism
blown out white shines on weapons is not clarity
its distracting
like i'm wondering
are there any multiplayer FPS games with overly bright blown out white shines on weapons
or are they all more subdued
because it looks like shit
next nymph
by doing custom implementations in the player entity, such as adding a string wh...
this is true. if you wear 1000 different cosmetics then the game doesnt know how to handle that.
high current
or are they all more subdued
I think Warframe if you turn the graphics settings all the way up is just a blown out and hazy mess.
I worked in an area probably as close to TF2’s badlands as you could get, and the sun was heckin brutal, you are so right that you don’t want that level of realism.
potent wolf
by doing custom implementations in the player entity, such as adding a string wh...
the video creater hearted it
wild grove
by doing custom implementations in the player entity, such as adding a string wh...
what does texturing and baked map lighting have to deal with edicts lol.
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
nothing
this is what gamers want in every game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp2EjsIYIhQ
wild grove
the reason why the weapons look different is because of the move to c_models.
they wanted to redo em to use fancy new stuff like exponent maps, Ambient Occlusion.
with the added benefit of weapon skin support.
also doing less work, since you only need to work on 1 model instead of 2.
summer steeple
i do wonder tho
there are some downgrades, mostly animation wise
and i wonder why those happened
idk if the animations ever existed on the world models
but i don't know why valve would use the world models to base it off of instead of the view models
wild grove
idk honestly, I would guess, for consistency between the two?
summer steeple
oh you know what i'm dumb anyway
the animations are part of the arms
and the playermodel for third person
maybe its missing bones or smth???
ah, i see why they used w_models as a base
they did the HL2 thing where they remove faces that were invisible from first person on v_models
summer steeple
yeah
in the case of the GL, the removal of visible nades in the clip seems intentional?
or potentially unfinished
wild grove
I assume it was intentional, because i think it was removed early on.
summer steeple
it had to have been with the move to c_models
because the nades are still there on the w_models and v_models still in tf2's files
wild grove
i'm gonna check old footage
summer steeple
also something i noticed
the GL has a bone called "procedural_chamber"
so at some point it seems like they considered having the GL barrel size match the actual ingame clip size
its even got networked variables
once again, that bone not in v or w models
so i wonder if, in this case, they were playing around with an idea, scrapped it (or it never got finished) and never re-added the traditional anim
maybe they were having issues lining up the grenades in the barrels
revolver does not have a separate bone with this, so i assume maybe it was an oversight when they redid the first person anims for the revolver
and by redid i just mean port to c_models
wild grove
it seems like animation for reloading grenades was borked in 2010
summer steeple
interesting, how so?
summer steeple
hm yeah interesting
wild grove
still had chambered grenades
wild grove
uh, lemmie see
December 17, 2010 Patch (Australian Christmas)
Updated the model to use c_models.
god damn that long ago?
summer steeple
wow
wild grove
January 19, 2011 Patch
Updated model with optimizations and LODs.
[Undocumented] Fixed world reload animation for the Grenade Launcher not showing the Demoman holding grenades when he reloads.
this was prolly when they borked the chambered grenades
so basically the demo reload and chambered grenades breaking was a downhill slope
no model changes after 2011
summer steeple
here's something i wonder
the v_model for revolver has bones that are named
liek actually named and not weapon_bone_1
so i wonder if when they ported over to c_models, they missed that
wild grove
I wonder if it was to remove this (idk if it was intentional, they did change the revolver animation to make it less distracting.)
https://youtu.be/w1W5DU4zmAA?si=Xp1gqf6Gl-BVn2ho&t=102
sorry if I have to use this video
December 22, 2014 Patch (Smissmas 2014)
Added Festive variant.
[Undocumented] Converted the Revolver model to the c_models system.
July 2, 2015 Patch (Gun Mettle Update)
Spy no longer smacks himself in the face while reloading a Revolver (New Spy Revolver reload animation that does not block cross hair).
revolver's move was done later on
wow I am kinda realizing that the reason why some look close to their old lighting is because their move was done early on.
not syringe gun tho, that was moved to c_ in Love and War.
wrench was also moved to c_ in Love and War
summer steeple
so i'm currently importing stuff into blender rn lol
but my current working theory is that they might've just missed some bones
because there's only 4 weapon bones normally
meanwhile the v revolver has 7 extra
liek seriously
wild grove
cylinder_spin was removed for whatever reason, maybe to make the revolver anims less distracting + idk if other revolver weapons also had revolver_spin as well.
wild grove
no model changes after 2011
there is another actually
February 2, 2016 Patch
[Undocumented] Fixed missing LODs on the Grenade Launcher.
hoary geyser
wow fiend how could you be wrong, I don't know if I should use fiendhook anymore...
wild grove
it's wierd how the wrench, syringe gun, grenade launcher, and the stock melees look close to their old v_model counterparts compared to the rest that look radically different.
like there was a change in material direction from love and war to gun mettle.
it's also funny how they can remove dx7 but not dx8 lol
summer steeple
i will never understand why importing source animations into blender is such a massive pain in the ass
like I have animation layers setup, but the actual bone positions are just wrong
only on the layer i'm adding
like oh wow, bip pelvis is at this location when imported
problem
this is where it actually should be
only the Z should be changed
and the model becomes a mess
well the numbers are off for the working animation too so
but that looks fine
well i've made this
spare obsidian
what have you done
summer steeple
i don't know but this is reminding me why i don't do very much tf2 stuff in blender
formal dew
Merde
stuck locust
woah
summer steeple
i give up
if i had to guess, for some reason the import tools i'm using are not considering the fact that animation layers exist, and are writing the animation from scratch, using the base location of the armature for some reason
cause the place where bip_pelvis is in this animation, is very close to the place where the bone normally sits without an animation
but i don't know how to subtract the ref location
summer steeple
you would thing it would be easy to copy just the relative movement of an animation in blender
but i tried for far too long and couldn't figure it out
drowsy marlin
I just want the old viewmodel animations back. The c_minigun looks terrible, no style
wild grove
you don't want old viewmodel animations then, you want material changes.
many mods have done this so many times it's not funny
radiant merlin
I just want the old viewmodel animations back. The c_minigun looks terrible, no ...
use mods
wild grove
simple VMT changes can make the c_model stock weapons that were changed in gun mettle look better.
this pack changes em
drowsy marlin
I use that mod!
But:
Doesn't work in casual mode, it doesn't restore the old minigun animations.
Still amazing though :D
unborn pecan
I use that mod!
But:
Doesn't work in casual mode, it doesn't restore the old m...
doesn't work in casual mode if you u r noob
radiant merlin
wait til someone ports it to casual
unborn pecan
😭 LETTUCE HEAD
stone nebula
you don't want old viewmodel animations then, you want material changes.
i do want the old animations though
for the minigun in particular
wild grove
Big minigun right?
that has been done as a mod
Hughmongous miniguns by newguy111
the issue is that it breaks specific skins.
and makes skins blurry and crusty.
but i don't think you care too much about that
crisp cedar
omg its cm
why is spy wearing the reddit dress
oh my ghod
it actually is
a reddit dress reference wtf
why
crisp cedar
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steam20?snr=1_4_4__118
make sure to read this, its full of nice stuff
theres supposed to be free points store stuff but i cant find it
oh shit im posting about this in tf2
potent wolf
oh shit im posting about this in tf2
keep posting here
kind falcon
theres supposed to be free points store stuff but i cant find it
here it is.
potent wolf
i can just rename the thread
formal dew
pump up that engagement
crisp cedar
i can just rename the thread <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
no u cant
formal dew
we all get 2 cents a year for each post here
crisp cedar
no they cant
kind falcon
love this one
potent wolf
Team Fortress 2 Megathread - ToGL edition
crisp cedar
mod abuse
kind falcon
what mod
crisp cedar
my bad
potent wolf
Im not a mod
kind falcon
replay has no mod
kind falcon
we dont have an issue tracker for the discord server
hoary geyser
we should make a new role to deal with
kind falcon
you can direct your issues into my dm
hoary geyser
an admin role
potent wolf
Maintainer
hoary geyser
and it should be given to me
hoary geyser
that's true
crisp cedar
we dont have an issue tracker for the discord server
the github rules of conduct apply to the discord
hoary geyser
sorry for doubting you comfigadmin
kind falcon
the github rules of conduct apply to the discord
wow. then i should be banned in a moments notice
spare obsidian
i love how they admit artifact sucks lol
left sand
why
kind falcon
what color is that dress?
left sand
why did they make spy trans
kind falcon
why did they make spy trans
is he?
kind falcon
hes just being silly.
crisp cedar
hes not just wearing hte dress
hes also wearing a crop top blazer
whatever its called
cursive peak
They make everyone trans.
kind falcon
aemrica ... liberals !! woke!!
formal dew
team fortress 2 is the most gay game
crisp cedar
glados is gay (old news)
formal dew
team fortress 3 will be the most trans game
kind falcon
team fortress 2 is the most gay game
limpid panther
they made L4D twilight
so few official artwork of cave and one of them is an old meme
small sirenBOT
kind falcon
every single one of them is a meme reference
limpid panther
every single one of them is a meme reference
I know
limpid panther
they should've made the guy's teeth weirdly glowy like in the original image
orchid sorrel
I think all the memes are from when the respective game released
Scout - rickroll (2007)
Potato glados - nyan cat (2011)
Csgo guy - gangnam style (2013?)
Headcrab - keyboard cat (2007)
Gman HLA(?) - the dude posing in front of a grave (2019/2020)
limpid panther
I think all the memes are from when the respective game released
Scout - rickrol...
you think?
crisp cedar
i think its a reference to the game being a dressup game
orchid sorrel
And twilight was at its peak memability around l4d release
spare obsidian
orchid sorrel
you think?
Idk most ppl just seem to be talking about the fact theyre old memes and not necessarily the correlation
crisp cedar
https://youtu.be/MwrquNZY6Rc damn
tldr whats htis
spare obsidian
basically the very first show base around TF2
it was founded by machinima nd HLG studios a teaser was show many years ago
limpid panther
https://youtu.be/MwrquNZY6Rc damn
I though this was about the adult swim show
stone nebula
why
spy cleavage reveal at long last
hide the children!!!
they're gonna show his ankles next
spare obsidian
I though this was about the adult swim show
wasn't that basically expiration date SFM? lol
stone nebula
wasn't that basically expiration date SFM? lol
there was gonna be an actual official show produced by valve and I heard that's where they decided on naming the scout Jeremy
this show was a fan thing though
left sand
its pretty close
so great
the mic seems a bit flat or something but gosh damn this is a treat
jagged pawn
wait that's so good
stone nebula
PLEASE please i need this in
doggy :3
crisp cedar
no fuck that
i dont like it.
i was fine with uh
that pyro hat with the gloopy mouth
this one just makes me feel uncomfortable for some reason
potent wolf
even more reason to add it to the game
stone nebula
doggyy
potent wolf
summer steeple
thinking i'm gonna stream my tf2maps 72hr jam entry
with a bit of help, managed to set up the timer to have the cat head explode gif inside it
can't wait
potent wolf
what happens to the cat after 72 hours?
stone nebula
he explodes
summer steeple
yeah
potent wolf
stone nebula
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965695269029175316/1146268295968870470/...
im friends with glaggles
the guy
kind falcon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/123936675209412608/1117289059161755748/...
he said the n wodr
paper sluice
I want to be too
summer steeple
thoughts?
tbh i'd love to get a better music player thing but idk how to do that
i just have a text file and the album cover exported to jpg
and it doesn't even export out the current time remaining in the song or anything :(
left sand
where will you put your face cam
summer steeple
its right there wdym
stone nebula
facecam
summer steeple
potent wolf
its right there wdym
so... you're going to explode?
summer steeple
why do you think my status is "explode"
stone nebula
tbh i'd love to get a better music player thing but idk how to do that
you could make an image underlay for the album cover and text
summer steeple
yeah true
spare obsidian
with a bit of help, managed to set up the timer to have the cat head explode gif...
do you happen to have the file for this? lol
summer steeple
for what, the cat or the timer
spare obsidian
timer
stone nebula
it's a tiny browser running in the streaming software
like one of those electrons everyone talks about...
spare obsidian
its more like a widget
potent wolf
it's a tiny browser running in the streaming software
like one of those electron...
fun fact: you're probably using one of them right now!
radiant merlin
and now it's suddenly working
summer steeple
tbh i'd love to get a better music player thing but idk how to do that
I found a better way to do this, but it uses css
i have been trying to get it to look the way i want for hours
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
ok so this was a complete waste of my time because even though it gets things like album name it just... doesn't display them
and because its literally through a browser window i have no way to edit the html
i fucking hate shit like this
waste of several hours
lean cove
who cares
radiant merlin
who will make the rick astley jacket for scout first?
paper sluice
https://vxtwitter.com/FruityCrits/status/1701673718726918230?t=nyUyUpwWfMYNQ3vzD...
Why are red and blue spy wearing the same blue outfit
summer steeple
https://vxtwitter.com/FruityCrits/status/1701673718726918230?t=nyUyUpwWfMYNQ3vzD...
merasmus is the literal worst example he could've used
because the joke is that literally everyone in the comics thinks he's a woman
oh wait i misread this i thought this was the same thread
crisp cedar
https://vxtwitter.com/FruityCrits/status/1701673718726918230?t=nyUyUpwWfMYNQ3vzD...
literally who the fuck is this
dont give attention to people that are barely relevant. please
let them boil in their own hatred
i swear to god theres a factory pumping out these guys like buzz lightyear toys
unborn pecan
Bearded Expense
wild grove
dude was already outted a long time ago as a big fat meanie.
wild grove
that's why he's not involved in soundsmith videos anymore.
unborn pecan
who'dve thunk that a big fat meanie is also transphobic
zealous pond
Not a very good one either.
drowsy marlin
Hi exor
crisp cedar
he didnt have to be transphobic to be unlikeable :^)
unborn pecan
he didnt have to be transphobic to be unlikeable :^)
true
stone nebula
oh he's a sexual abuser.
i hope he commits a certain act then
deleted all my messages idc how anyone perceives him anymore
unborn pecan
Yeah he is icky
potent wolf
what's the context?
slender nexus
sounds like lerp stuff
heavy solarBOT
@slender nexus has leveled up! (42 ➜ 43)
stone nebula
what's the context? <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
cl_interp and ratio disabled in cs2
potent wolf
oh lol
potent wolf
sounds like lerp stuff
i got that much
next nymph
cl_interp and ratio disabled in cs2
mandatory 0 interp
limpid panther
new wave of bots, but now brazilian bots
we copy the gringos even in bot hosting
summer willow
what
real or fake?
off topic but i also saw this and didnt get it why
#announcements📰 message
mystic turtle
you are asking for a ban
watch as the modding community 1984s their mods from comfig eyes (they really detest sv_pure, mods bypassing it are proliferating)
formal dew
high current
watch as the modding community 1984s their mods from comfig eyes (they *really* ...
In fairness, I’m not the biggest fan of how sv_pure was executed. There are some nice QOL mods like particle reduction mods or animation mods that just don’t work or require tame-ish work arounds to get working in casual, and should really just be whitelisted imo. To my knowledge, uncletopia is the only server that has a custom sv_pure whitelist that isn’t just all-on or all-off.
I like how deep rock galactic handles mods. They have 3 categories of mods, verified, approved, and sandbox (iirc). Mods are reviewed by the company and verified you can use in any lobby, modded or not. Approved mods are fine and don’t hinder your game progression, but you can only use them with people with the same mods. Then sandbox mods essentially disables your progression, and only lets you play with people with the same mods.
Valve would never do this as it would require too much manual oversight. And obviously a co-op game you can have different progression states. But it’d be nice if they had done something like that in the community workshop. Or set up a method to apply for verified status. It’d keep passionate modders working in intended ways and then only bootleggers would have to go through the work arounds.
left sand
i don't think valve likes mods like that tbh, theyve never really supported it
valve's preferred mods are either maps or entire new games
not stuff that modifies their original vision of the game
left sand
l4d2 is an interesting exception to the rule
crisp cedar
i think thats primarily because l4d2 isnt a live service game in the same vein cs, dota 2 and tf2 are
l4d2 was kind of meant to be shipped, maybe given a few updates and then dropped
wild grove
counterpoint: L4D2
also VALVe games with 0 matchmaking.
left sand
yeah but even like
portal, half life
its more meant for you to mod the entire thing or make a map pack
high current
not stuff that modifies their original vision of the game
I sorta get that. But also why do they allow us to edit scripts to change explosions or use custom huds then?
I mean I’m certainly not against that, but it’s just weird to me they’d pick and choose. Though of course it’s their game so they get to do what they want with it.
orchid sorrel
orchid sorrel
Wait until you meet overclocked dave
drowsy marlin
What's in the update?
slender nexus
soldier twerk emote
stone nebula
soldier, grenade!!!! throw it back now!!!!
drowsy marlin
Are they fixing that one bug
kind falcon
soldier, grenade!!!! throw it back now!!!!
oorah
stone nebula
Are they fixing that one bug
they are adding a littel bug named michael
slender nexus
thug shaker walk
stone nebula
left sand
What's in the update?
dxvk, tc2, bots are removed, vacnet, prime, trust factor, source 2
potent wolf
dxvk, tc2, bots are removed, vacnet, prime, trust factor, source 2
seems about right
kind falcon
dxvk, tc2, bots are removed, vacnet, prime, trust factor, source 2
whats up with the bots? they dont have enough time?
slender nexus
also the sex update
kind falcon
the whar
drowsy marlin
dxvk, tc2, bots are removed, vacnet, prime, trust factor, source 2
I don't think those changes are legitimate
stone nebula
I don't think those changes are legitimate
🤫
drowsy marlin
If they brought back the v_minigun model I think that will save TF2
orchid sorrel
dxvk, tc2, bots are removed, vacnet, prime, trust factor, source 2
And still no henry update………
Sad!
spare obsidian
what's TF2?
kind falcon
what is the struggle for the sisyphus here
limpid panther
what's TF2?
Titanfall 2, @potent wolf will tell you all about it
spare obsidian
yes
radiant merlin
what is the struggle for the sisyphus here
saying that a tf2 update is coming tomorrow
spare obsidian
for real, do you guys think dxvk would be added in the next update?
slender nexus
TF2 is my favorite respawn game
slender nexus
TF2 is my least favorite game!
next nymph
saying that a tf2 update is coming tomorrow
WRONG its a boulder
potent wolf
the tf2 update is a boulder 🙀
kind falcon
the boulder is coming..
potent wolf
~~for real, do you guys think dxvk would be added in the next update?~~
it'll probably happen sometime soon...
but who knows :/
I wonder if they're going to sort out the tcmalloc thing
stone nebula
~~for real, do you guys think dxvk would be added in the next update?~~
idk about next update but definitely soon
if it's next update I'll be very happy
drowsy marlin
When are they making a new pootis engage anime
potent wolf
It'll release in 3845
stone nebula
https://youtu.be/ume90_nRifY i did the soy face watching this for the first time
kind falcon
https://youtu.be/ume90_nRifY i did the soy face watching this for the first time
ermm… why are you not abiding server rules
stone nebula
ermm… why are you not abiding server rules
you are insane
potent wolf
aren't we all
stone nebula
kind falcon
rule breaker.
potent wolf
@stone nebula you have broken a rule (idk which one), this is your first warning
hoary geyser
do not violate the rules of the official mastercomfig discord server (Warning 1/3)
kind falcon
<@105186885768364032> you have broken a rule (idk which one), this is your first...
even the super contributor doesn’t know! how rude
potent wolf
i'm not a moderator, i can't be expected to know anything about anything
kind falcon
warn replaycoding server rule -32767/3
hoary geyser
I think they broke the golden rule
kind falcon
no, THE rule.
stone nebula
@stone nebula warning: do not receive warnings. (2/3)
potent wolf
oh dear
left sand
@stone nebula Warning: :3 (1000/3)
kind falcon
wtf
left sand
getting shiggy with it
stone nebula
warning ;3
stone nebula
stone nebula
goodbye talon
left sand
ok goodbye i was bullied out of existence
hi
spare obsidian
potent wolf
repost 🙀
spare obsidian
impossible 😱
kind falcon
#cats🐈 message
potent wolf
lowrule
stone nebula
slurs
stone nebula
ok
i will no longer call talon violent slurs
potent wolf
fiend is a slur 🙀
proper tangle
TF2 update next week I think
stone nebula
we are knowers in this server
orchid sorrel
https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-analysis-thinking-seriously-gif-12855053
🐧it appears to be an estimate that a patch for the 2007 video game team fortress 2 will release a week from now
wild grove
Tf2 update is prolly today but won't be much besides moving maps from summer to their respective modes, moving VSH to either misc or it's own mode, and a few bugfixes here and there.
summer steeple
uh i do a stream of tf2maps 72hr jam stuff
https://www.twitch.tv/treacherousfiend
watch if you want to look at funny gifs killing my bitrate probably
next nymph
uh i do a stream of tf2maps 72hr jam stuff
https://www.twitch.tv/treacherousfien...
im not seeing enough deathpits
grim parcel
I wonder if they're going to sort out the tcmalloc thing
oh yeah that's hit flatpak too now apparently
summer steeple
im not seeing enough deathpits
funnily enough, the gimmick of this map is actually kind of the opposite lol
grim parcel
and people are saying it's because "valve shipped a broken library"
potent wolf
and people are saying it's because "valve shipped a broken library"
LMAO
left sand
and people are saying it's because "valve shipped a broken library"
what's the scoop on that? anything we could add to the OS optimizations page?
grim parcel
seems to be an issue with on any distribution (or flatpak runtime) that builds off llvm 16. it’s fixed by using a newer version per usual, but according to a friend the package on arch doesn’t work so 
@mystic turtle tested a static version of it i built with nix though and it worked
so maybe recommend trying to pin it like you would sdl, but if that doesn’t work, use a binary or compile it yourself with the expression i made
spare obsidian
it would be easy if volvo remove the precombile binnaries and use the OS one
potent wolf
it would be easy if valve ported the game to source 2
next nymph
funnily enough, the gimmick of this map is actually kind of the opposite lol
life pits 😇
summer steeple
close...
potent wolf
cp_lifepits.vmf
summer steeple
if the bitrate isn't too bad, you can see the actual vmf name in the title bar on hammer ;)
and you're pretty damn close
summer steeple
pfff
grim parcel
it would be easy if volvo remove the precombile binnaries and use the OS one
so many games wouldn't work then lol
there's a reason things like steam-native are very dumb hacks
games on steam aren't going to be like what's in your distro's repository, where they are constantly rebuilt against the other packages. people making games have no clue what you're running, so there needs to be a base layer they can build against
if anything this is just an issue with linux and backwards compatibility in general
mystic turtle
so maybe recommend trying to pin it like you would sdl, but if that doesn’t work...
Oh, you still have to pin it to the Steam Runtime like the current SDL2 libs?
I just symlinked it to Team Fortress 2's bin folder and deleted the original
potent wolf
you can do that with sdl also
grim parcel
yeah either works the same
spare obsidian
imagine a world where backwards compatibility from linux
summer steeple
i wonder what the tf2maps charity is at
orchid sorrel
Our last charity took like an entire month to reach 22k
summer steeple
got dam
8 hours in
not posting this as like a "ha we're better than you"
but just as a holy fuck
i bet it'll slow down soon tho
in both cases its a lot of money in small amounts of time
orchid sorrel
Has the tf2 blog post hit for tf2 maps?
summer steeple
uh idk if they do one for when it starts but the announcement went up last month i think yea
summer steeple
never seen this bug before when joining a casual game after it ended
mystic turtle
yeah either works the same
ah, I see
thanks for clearing things up
drowsy marlin
Did the team fortress update release today?
drowsy marlin
How come you're so pessimistic?
heavy solarBOT
@drowsy marlin has leveled up! (16 ➜ 17)
drowsy marlin
Holy cow!
kind falcon
How come you're so pessimistic?
whos pessimistic?
drowsy marlin
I don't know
summer steeple
wild grove
Did the team fortress update release today?
No but summer maps are now in their respective gamemode categories.
VSH and Selbyn is shoved into misc.
summer steeple
2 PD maps year round 🥳
spare obsidian
vsh can nake misc category be not so obscured
slender nexus
2 PD maps year round 🥳
heavy solarBOT
@zealous pond has leveled up! (23 ➜ 24)
potent wolf
wha
zealous pond
How come you're so pessimistic?
paper sluice
vsh is gonna die with all the other misc gamemodes 😢
summer willow
🙏
spare obsidian
vsh is gonna die with all the other misc gamemodes 😢
not really tbh
if anything misc tab is gonna be active
cursive peak
stone nebula
vsh is gonna die with all the other misc gamemodes 😢
i still haven't gotten to play hardwood
i got into one lobby and it was empty
drowsy marlin
paper sluice
sly fox https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1130016369488953424.webp?size=48&name=fuWTF&quality=lossless
stone nebula
https://vxtwitter.com/TF2Emporium/status/1703244633248014846?t=9iP_VbdXDOjJBpZ9Y...
ok how many of these
are realistically gonna get added all in one update 💀
drowsy marlin
Idk
stone nebula
like 1 or 2 sure but i swear I've seen like 5 now
next nymph
https://vxtwitter.com/TF2Emporium/status/1703244633248014846?t=9iP_VbdXDOjJBpZ9Y...
halloween spy misc? bullshit
zealous pond
are realistically gonna get added all in one update 💀
Hopefully all of them.
kind falcon
i mean yea me too but
crisp cedar
vsh is gonna die with all the other misc gamemodes 😢
this means they wont do any more vsh maps because the more vsh maps they add eventually theyll need a vsh category and they do not want to make someone make a ui graphic for the vsh category
unless they get a contractor to do it but its unlikely
that or they'll just use an unused asset or, hell, even a fuckin random screenshot of the jungle inferno sfm
so yea vsh might die not because its put in misc but because valve wont want to justify making a new gamemode category
not really that statement's a stretch (the vsh dying part)
i hope they dont get a contractor to do it because that grill graphic fucking sucks
the graphic is fine but why is it on the main menu
replacing the mercs
it looks dumb
drowsy marlin
They should revert that one heavy nerf
kind falcon
would use if i didn't have a wiki cap
erm.. weird flex but ok
drowsy marlin
I have decided. I am going to stop being a noob at TF2. I will finally play the game like how a good player would.
potent wolf
nooo
spare obsidian
uninstalling the game isn't?
zealous pond
I have decided. I am going to stop being a noob at TF2. I will finally play the ...
A turtling Engineer?
drowsy marlin
I am going to play as the Spy.
potent wolf
you are going to Die.
drowsy marlin
I have the Dead Ringer, along with a health pack route in mind.
potent wolf
i hope you Die.
drowsy marlin
That's mean.
zealous pond
I am going to play as the Spy.
Be sure to use the Diamondback.
paper sluice
summer steeple
jam day 3
https://www.twitch.tv/treacherousfiend
summer steeple
back live after the stream crashed for some reason
crisp cedar
stone nebula
WOAH BREAKING THE LAW
kind falcon
stone nebula
joebiding
stone nebula
yeah, just that addon
heavy solarBOT
@dreamy marlin has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)
potent wolf
you could do it yourself!
kind falcon
1 frame
summer willow
maybe up to 10%, i tried benchmarking with csgo a time ago but dont change much on my pc, viewing others benchmarks seems to be better but always have the problem of stuttering that stops once everything is compiled
but i expect also optimizations in the game so we'll see
summer steeple
sometimes i wonder what goes on in ficool's head, because he just made this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039243316920844428/1153391757812301924/hl2_Thl8krB3fk.mp4
potent wolf
sometimes i wonder what goes on in ficool's head, because he just made this
http...
bottom message
summer steeple
oh i missed that
i thought he just did it out of nowhere lmao
cause it started off with just 2
then 3
and then 4 and 5
ficool loves to just like post random shit he does in vscript with no context
as a tease
wild grove
sometimes i wonder what goes on in ficool's head, because he just made this
http...
This would be cool as a mvm upgrade.
orchid sorrel
or an mvm boss
summer steeple
valve moment
potent wolf
my organs are gone 🙀
radiant merlin
for some reason the label text isn't determined by the hud, but by items_game.txt
spare obsidian
for some reason heavy says "scout is dead" when you kill a bot that's carrying the bomb
slender nexus
hot dog knuckles
grim parcel
omg serebit, i know them
BRUH
why did discord put me on messages from last month
😭
potent wolf
hahaha
spare obsidian
hot dog knuckles
true
paper sluice
i was playing sniper on upward for like prolly only a minute or even less, got a couple good headshots, got autobalanced, and i got kicked
womp womp
idontgiveaswag
i think the game thinks im cheating or just higher rank casual tier lobbies have more cheaters cuz i feel like im encountering them way more
also people are a lot more bigoted in higher casual tier lobbies
summer steeple
how often do bots actually finish games to get casual MMR do you think
paper sluice
idk but like not bot cheaters like just
cheaters
summer steeple
oh
paper sluice
again i got autobalanced but this time onto the cheater team and got kicked cuz they were having a group cheater partner assisted circlejerk
prolly cuz i was extendfreeze watching them https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/931605358256984065.webp?size=48&name=Troll&quality=lossless
kind falcon
how often do bots actually finish games to get casual MMR do you think
whar!?!?!?// theres acasual mmr?!?!?!?!/
summer steeple
yeah
i knew it was there when valve launched MYM but over time i thought they removed it for some reason, but no
its actually glicko
same as csgo
summer steeple
fun fact you can actually see your mmr
kind falcon
lemme check,.
stone nebula
is higher better or worse
kind falcon
where is this
summer steeple
match history
kind falcon
of course it is!
stone nebula
1225
kind falcon
kind falcon
idk if thats pro if im dogshit at the videogame
kind falcon
interesting
someone could make a tool that would scrape all the match history
and display it in a fun way.
summer steeple
has anyone been having issues wiht paysus' animations since like, the 100 player update?
one of the updates that fucked with sv_pure
sometimes in casual my heavy, sniper, and scout anims are just busted
sniper completely, scout and heavy kinda just fucked up timing (things playing at the wrong time, etc.) other weird issues
wild grove
wierd, I use mastercomfig with mod support on and itemtest being loaded and disconnected on start up.
summer steeple
same
wild grove
tbf tho I use kylul reanimation packs and haven't encountered anything.
summer steeple
maybe i'll try kyluls
summer steeple
example of how broken sniper is btw
stone nebula
I've been having weird animation bugs using horsie's editor but the extent is looping animations on occasion not broken hands
radiant merlin
cs2 has glicko 2 now
limpid panther
cs2 has glicko 2 now
doesn't glicko-2 not take into account teammates?
like, you can have multiple opponents, but in a free-for-all situation, not in teams
radiant merlin
i dunno
limpid panther
yea, this is my interpretation at least
no teammates are accounted for, just opponents
summer willow
what can i do with these cases? just sell for cents? i dont really undestand or cares much about these things
slender nexus
what can i do with these cases? just sell for cents? i dont really undestand or ...
most of the recent Halloween stuff has been poopey doo doo that id doubt that these cases would sell if you put them on the community market
Maybe just delete them
summer steeple
i mean
even if they don't sell immediately, they could still sell over time
and thats like
10 cents!
slender nexus
summer willow
potent wolf
hoard them
wild grove
most of the recent Halloween stuff has been poopey doo doo that id doubt that th...
Would recommend trading em instead of selling on scm since it's faster.
limpid panther
what can i do with these cases? just sell for cents? i dont really undestand or ...
wait another decade so they are worth 2 cents more
summer willow
i let 2 of each just in case in a century they are extreme rare and worth of 1 billion of
summer steeple
update on my weird custom viewmodel anim issue
it only happens sometimes?
now sniper and heavy work
inspect animations for various classes are kinda weird and bugged sometimes
summer steeple
i'm just wondering what the hell the preload crash fix actually did
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
because this is so weird and inconsistent that i'm getting different issues sometimes
like heavy wasn't actually fully fixed
inspect made the minigun disappear
the worst part about this is like
its not gonna be something valve would fix unless it fixes an actual non-technically-exploit issue
wait a minute
i'm not using paysus' sniper anims i don't think
WHO MADE THIS ONE
I was gonna try and see if maybe my vpk was corrupt or smth
summer steeple
oh cool epic capture fail
i fucking hate tf2
there we go
judging by the screenshots its not kyluls
unless its like a very old version or smth
well i checked my heavy anims and the hash is the same
so it 100% is some weird new bug
stone nebula
oh cool epic capture fail
is this what you mean
oh it is
i thought that was a weird discord bug my bad
stone nebula
whar
summer steeple
the old one was just a still image of the main menu because source engine sucks to capture
stone nebula
my phone is haunted
summer steeple
I wonder if this anim bug is something fixable or if its just like... i go fuck myself
stone nebula
so if dxvk comes out this week r we renaming the thread to dxvk edition
summer steeple
i hope so
kind falcon
judging by the screenshots its not kyluls
erm. you made them while you were sleeping
stone nebula
are you using any of the custom clients by any chance.
no i am an innocent goober
kind falcon
https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleepy-cat-tired-cat-gif-13281019531031963521
rest in peace brah
summer steeple
erm. you made them while you were sleeping
i've never animated for source lol
stone nebula
you winged it in your sleep perfectly
kind falcon
no i am an innocent goober
summer steeple
so what you're saying is that I have like ghost custom anims that only exist on my pc
stone nebula
i wish i woke up tomorrow and all my projects were just done
kind falcon
so what you're saying is that I have like ghost custom anims that only exist on ...
yes
summer steeple
i wish i woke up tomorrow and all my projects were just done
saaaaaaaaaaaame
kind falcon
you must distribute them on gamebanan
summer steeple
but also like
frustrating lol
because i'd like a real answer now
but i probalby will never know
stone nebula
that... is a weird discord bug
looks the same when i download it too
maybe an android thing
idk
summer steeple
maybe it doesn't support the settings i have
I know when i changed settings they just stopped showing thumbnails in windows
which is pretty epic
summer steeple
love obsucre settings fucking things up
stone nebula
i can hear the Crickest
summer steeple
honestly this mystery anim mod is why i started repacking all the mods i have installed with a fucking readme file lol
stone nebula
ok wtf is up with discord voice messages
BESIDES sending them when you don't mean
they also never sound remotely like what you recorded
like
summer steeple
android moment
summer steeple
get an iphone
kind falcon
there we go
paysus overhaul v4
stone nebula
get an iphone <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
you know just as well as I do that the discord app will do the exact same thing on ios
summer steeple
paysus overhaul v4
then why the hell is it a different filesize and name...
kind falcon
idk inspect the vpk
stone nebula
^
kind falcon
maybe theres a picture of balls inside
kind falcon
you know just as well as I do that the discord app will do the exact same thing ...
nope never happened youre a liar .
@stone nebula what do you mean hby that
kind falcon
this cats name is gay porn look him up on google
summer steeple
you know just as well as I do that the discord app will do the exact same thing ...
just opened it up on my iphone its fine lol
stone nebula
just opened it up on my iphone its fine lol
oh, i thought you were talking about the voice messages
kind falcon
summer steeple
oh, i thought you were talking about the voice messages
oh we were i just literally forgot about that
like legitamately LMAO
stone nebula
hits you on the head with a mallet
summer steeple
what its over
stone nebula
its joever
summer steeple
it was only 3 days
summer steeple
its joever
i actually had that image on my "end of stream" screen
kind falcon
wtf
summer steeple
well there's a participation medal
kind falcon
its joevere
summer steeple
guaranateed delivery in at least 3 months
stone nebula
fiend jammed those maps the hardest for certain
summer steeple
bro these are straight up like different
but i don't think i've had these viewmodels since before the last update in 2019
i don't remember when
i'm not trusting modified date cause stuff happens
like
i mean i guess i'll replace these weird mystery paysus sniper anims with the current one
its possible this one is like
no it can't be outdated because like
kind falcon
can you like
summer steeple
summer steeple
I don't know how
summer steeple
that only goes so far
kind falcon
yes
summer steeple
they're all stored in one anim file
kind falcon
its 25kb of difference
summer steeple
well hlmv crashes when i try to open up the first person arms so i can viewthe anims
so the only way i'd be able to do this is to stare at them in game
but i'm too tired for that
kind falcon
my mother was in my room 🐱
your mother visits you in dorms?
unborn pecan
wild grove
Fiend, have you tried deleting the sound.cache files?
kind falcon
formal dew
rename the thread to craig
dreamy marlin
does TF2's official competitive mode allow custom hitsounds/killsounds? what about closed captions in custom HUDs?
next nymph
if it works in sv_pure its probably fine (some exceptions)
summer willow
just now my tf2 started to have spy disguises bugs, missing parts, wrong weapons, etc
not using any mods but started to happening after i used mods that change players, but i removed, and also changing mastercomfig preset to medium-low
i guess
summer steeple
i've been playing a lot of the current custom mvm campaign recently
its cool that the devs have figured out how to do really crazy bosses
like they're genuinely scary
helps that some of them cancel medic shield after a few seconds
but even outside of that
they just throw tons of completely unexpected, but still easy to understand things at you
usually made with pre-existing things in tf2, just re-used in a new context
meteor spells, AoE buffs, even the sound of a vaccinator swapping to let you know when the boss swaps to a different thing
and it results in really intense and fun boss fights
paper sluice
Have custom mvm campaigns switched from sourcemod to vscript yet?
summer steeple
i don't think so and i don't think they will
sigmod allows for more control than vscript likely ever will
plus vscript can't even access population shit
drowsy marlin
Vscript mvm official community tours???
summer steeple
the most mvm you can do in vscript is set money, set if a player is considered a miniboss (applies scaling), the travel distance to the bomb target, if the game mode is mvm, if refunds are allowed, and if its quick build time (mvm pre-round)
you can mess with the nextbots yourself but uh
good luck
summer steeple
like i'm sure you could do a lot with vscript
but sigmod would just be easier
i checked the galvanized gauntlet folder and there is some vscript
not very much
orchid sorrel
Have custom mvm campaigns switched from sourcemod to vscript yet?
some of the missions in galvanized gauntlet use vscript
its usually a mix of both rafmod and vscript
rafmod also supports lua, so some missions use those to
summer steeple
I just really don't see many missions using vscript unless the person making it is more familiar with that than lua
orchid sorrel
yeah
summer steeple
without working with rafmod at all i can almost guarantee it allows you to do more than vscript can
orchid sorrel
moonlight might get more use out of vscript, but their design philosphies are a lot more uh
"strict" than potato
summer steeple
is there like a feature list of rafmod anywhere?
i'm mostly just curious at this point
because i'm sure there's some things that it can do that vscript currently can't but i'm not sure what
orchid sorrel
https://sigwiki.potato.tf/index.php/Main_Page
https://github.com/rafradek/sigsegv-mvm/blob/master/scripts/mvm_bigrock_sigdemo.pop
not all encompassing, but likely a good place to check
summer steeple
yeah i was having trouble finding stuff on sigwiki
orchid sorrel
rafmod lets you do a lot of stuff in popfiles, like make your own point templates
summer steeple
in the popfile itself? thats nice
orchid sorrel
yea
a lot of DD/HH1 missions were made with popfile point templates
around HH2 rafmod added lua support
you can also change stuff like class/weapon stats for human team
summer steeple
honestly looking through this demo, I see a lot of stuff that vsript probably can do, but it would require significant rewrites
orchid sorrel
dover/dover2 use a lot of lua stuff
some of my overclocked upgrades also use lua
like the knockback rage replacements
summer steeple
actually thats a big thing vscript can't do easily
that menu
i don't think there's any way to do menus like that in vscript without writing your own and then intercepting what little inputs the game allows you to read
and even then thats not intercepting it's just reading when they happen
for reference, these are the buttons that vscript can read
drowsy marlin
I wish there was a way to view in meters per second, how fast I am moving in TF2
summer steeple
here's a list of things in this demo popfile and how it relates to vscript things not listed are probably fine to change in vscript
NoMvmDeathTune - impossible?
MaxSpectators - technically possible? would basically require just kicking players after max is hit
BunnyHop - would require constant fucking about with acceleration
AllowMultipleSappers - I'm not sure? maybe not possible?
NoJoinMidwave - impossible? I don't think you can disable respawns for specific players
AllowCivilianClass - I don't think so
DisableUpgradeStations - I guess you could just kill the upgrade station entity
BonusRatioHalf/BonusRatioFull - Impossible
CustomUpgradesFile - Impossible
AllowUpgradesForUnintendedClassWeapons - Impossible
SniperHideLasers - Unsure, if its just an entity you can kill it
AllowBotExtraSlots - Impossible
RobotLimit - Impossible
EnableDominations - Impossible
SendBotsToSpectatorImmediately - maybe possible? would basically require changing the team back to blu on the same tick, not a great solution
StandableHeads - Maybe if you mess with player velocity every tick?
BotsRandomCrit - I assume this is a hardcoded thing in the game, so probably impossible
SniperAllowHeadshots - maybe? idk how the game does this
NoSapUnownedBuildings - might need to completely rewrite spy AI for this...
DisplayRobotDeathNotice - Impossible
AllowFlagCarrierToFight - would require manually doing AI for attacking
FlagEscortCountOffset - Not sure, probably impossible
StuckTimeMultiplier - would require doing the stuck timer yourself, as well as the stuck logic. vscript can read if a bot is stuck, but not tell it that it is stuck
SentryHintBombForwardRange/BackwardRange/MinDistanceFromBomb - uh you could maybe do this? it'd basically require teleporting the engi bot the same tick he spawns in...
CustomNavFile - I fucking wish.
VacNumCharges - hardcoded in tf2
DoubleDonkWindow - maybe?
ConchSpeedBoost - would require other methods of increasing speed```I love the metric system, what about you guys?
summer steeple
there's morestuff but i ran out of space
kind falcon
here's a list of things in this demo popfile and how it relates to vscript thing...
why does bunnyhop require constant blabla acceleration