Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year

[radiant merlin]

my ping is worse than yesterday

[summer steeple]

I mean i can see shadows justfine

[spare obsidian]

not that type of shadow lol

shadow pin physics context is the underline trigger and collision system between physics and game logic

[summer steeple]

oh

[spare obsidian]

aka player controller

volt its 98% feature completed only thing left is vehicles and finishing the player controller

and fixing ragdoll bugs

oh right pulleys and contrains lol

i forgot those exist

[radiant merlin]

2 h turbine

they kicked shounic lol

[hoary geyser]

they're being couped

[formal dew]

october revolution

[summer steeple]

they kicked coms too

LMAO

thank you coms

[summer willow]

i got kicked too

[summer steeple]

idek why you in specific

[spare obsidian]

the server trying to stay alive

[summer steeple]

@hoary geyser HOW DID YOU LIVE SO LONG

[radiant merlin]

this fucking map doesn't even have clipping in the stairs

[hoary geyser]

huh

[summer steeple]

rip

[hoary geyser]

rip server

[summer steeple]

you were the spy getting meleed by like 10 people

and you lived for so long

i couldn't hit you

[hoary geyser]

idk

[hoary geyser]

why does sawmill run so poorly

[summer steeple]

its very open

like extremely open

[hoary geyser]

yeah makes sense

[summer steeple]

in most parts of the map your PVS will have nearly everything else

[hoary geyser]

thank you tf2 for both my cpu and gpu having around 20% usage though 🫡

[summer steeple]

like tbh if it weren't for those side doors onto the middle of the map it would be fine

but those just give you a sightline from each spawn to each other

man i disabled voice a few rounds ago and my sanity has improved so much

[hoary geyser]

how long do kick bans last anyway

[summer steeple]

20 minutes? 30? i think

[limpid panther]

I was experiencing that all the time

[summer steeple]

i had to drop to low preset in a desperate attempt to get performance

[unborn pecan]

wait

so like

it's possible to basically put in a layer that makes Jolt the phsyics engine?

[summer steeple]

@unborn pecan ^

[unborn pecan]

so cool

[unborn pecan]

Guys

New open fortress release

It has a new installer as well

beans

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ofinstaller-beans-git

🫡 aur package is already made

[slender nexus]

arch users be slaying

[unborn pecan]

so true

I made it

I am going to host an open fortress server

[summer steeple]

I haven't been on the 100 player server in a few hours, out of curiosity, has it crashed due to edicts once?

[radiant merlin]

the mge map is so old it still uses infodecal

[unborn pecan]

they got a chainsaw up in this bitch

😭 HURRICANEPOO

[limpid panther]

I hate how the pills look

[unborn pecan]

then go talk to them

it looks better in motion

but yeah

I wished it was more "tf2"

open fortress is so much fun

[unborn pecan]

anyone wanna play tf2?

@left sand @potent wolf @summer steeple

[summer steeple]

nah not rn

[left sand]

im all tf2'd out

i played like 1000 years worth of tf2 matches

[unborn pecan]

alright 🫡

[crisp cedar]

keys have fallen in price by a lot

from 80 to 65

ref

[kind falcon]

back to whatever they were 2~ years ago

when i used to flip them on mptf 😭

[grim parcel]

tf2 deflation

[drifting pawn]

Its that eternal cycle

It won't fall below 50-60

Then it'll bounce back up to 70-80 again

[tacit flare]

Imagie if Valve added a metal sink.

Make buds great again!

[kind falcon]

mental sink

[next nymph]

simply make tf2 inventories have a maximum of 5 keys at a time

[kind falcon]

my gambling addiction wouldnt like that

[formal dew]

https://fallout.wiki/wiki/The_Sink

[lean cove]

keys ref value don’t matter, it’s the dollar value that matters. did that fall?

[tall owl]

just a quick question i have about tf2 for the sake of knowing, how many cores does tf2 use again?

[crisp cedar]

keys have always been roughly the same price as in the mann co store

keys ref value matters a lot to ne

me

[kind falcon]

little

[lean cove]

its not the mann co store price that matters either

community market price determines the real value of keys basically

[crisp cedar]

ohhh wait that's what i meant

yea

the scm price my bad

not mann co store price

[lean cove]

erm

that price is not stable though

[crisp cedar]

yes

[orchid sorrel]

All it would do is just further enable idle bots

[kind falcon]

dips on sales

buy !!

[lean cove]

https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Mann Co. Supply Crate Key

they’re actually at a pretty high price rn

they used to be <2$ for a while

[slender nexus]

Wjat about the marketplace.tf price

[crisp cedar]

idea: replace the tf2 economy with a yearly battlepass where all the cosmetics are untradeable and unmarketable but theyre unobtainable by purely grinding

[lean cove]

so yeah i think ref pricing is unrelated

[slender nexus]

fortnite battle pass

[lean cove]

it’s a lot lower volume and basically tracks the scm price

[small siren]

*it’s a lot lower

volume and basically tracks

the scm price*

- ununenniummmmmmmmmmmmmmmicrowave

[slender nexus]

i just shit out my ass

booted up my pc

cuz I need need

to get that Fortnite battle pass

[crisp cedar]

i just want ref to be back to a place where it didnt make craft hats cost 2.33

keys being a lot of ref and craft hats still going for 1.33 was peak tf2 economy

maybe it wasnt great but u could get a lot of bang for ur keys

[small siren]

*maybe it wasnt

great but u could get a lot

of bang for ur keys*

- rayningforests

[slender nexus]

i want to take the tf2 economy out back and take it out old yeller style

[crisp cedar]

u still can but

craft hats shouldnt be anything other than 1.33 thats fucked

[next nymph]

solution: wait until you get the hat as a random drop, so its free!

[kind falcon]

thanks, its still working! +rep, vouch!

thanks kind stranger

[tacit flare]

"There's a saying in the TF2 community. Old Game Blues. It refers to those so obsessed with the past they can't see the present, much less the future, for what it is."

[kind falcon]

that reminds me of someone

[potent wolf]

Imagie if Valve added a mental sink.

[limpid panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CViZg6sFc

also LETS FUCKING GOOO bd on linux!

better than tf2bd so far

[spare obsidian]

bd?

[limpid panther]

bot detector

any1 tf2?

https://discord.com/channels/389089828249010188/958581537408946256

[crisp cedar]

no, playing dota

[formal dew]

gabe newell be like

[cursive peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxSASrQc9YI

[jagged pawn]

can't seem to find the messages but I remember mcoms saying something about how she had sent a fix to valve regarding holster speed penalties? what happened with that

[crisp cedar]

[Trade.tf] Tracking and Alert changes https://steamcommunity.com/groups/trade_tf/announcements/detail/3644026308759919251

[jagged pawn]

I used to use good deals all the time back when I traded, was so useful

[potent wolf]

finally...

[left sand]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967994743&searchtext=

[potent wolf]

that would actually be great for storing my 5 billion unused cases

[cursive peak]

I store them in the SCM.

[slender nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-gif-21342157

[summer steeple]

random fun fact, because of how reflection and refraction works, it takes into account things like mat_wireframe

looks pretty cool seeing reflected wireframes

[jagged pawn]

wait this looks sick

[summer steeple]

just in general due to how rendering works, it probably takes into account just about everything thats in worldspace

cause it essentially just takes whats being rendered already and uses that

mat_showmiplevels is another cool one, and it also happens to show off the fact that my explanation is shit and that it doesn't really take whats rendered already, it more so takes what should be rendered, and then runs it through the same pipeline as the rest of rendering

so you can see that the mipmaps for the reflections are actually at different levels than the ones in the real world

most notable on stuff like the lantern glow, where one of them is green in the world but red in the reflection

similar thing with the mountain on the right, has some yellow in the real world, all blue on reflection

[summer steeple]

this is kinda a bad explanation too, since screen space reflections would show debug stuff like this too, since it just takes your screen and, well, flips it

in general just ignore my technical explanations and just enjoy the cool visuals

[radiant merlin]

everyone is doing fucking nothing in the vsh server i'm playing on

just idleing and trying to do that stupid fnaf joke

[cursive peak]

Punch them in the balls.

[radiant merlin]

you are so fucking boring

[jagged pawn]

yeah I knew this would happen lmao

vsh could've been so fun if it had an audience of brained people

[glass musk]

@left sand thoughts on adding Docs quick link here?

think that would be cool

[paper sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1132549721249026048.webp?size=48&name=dogt&quality=lossless

[kind falcon]

and huds and hits?

[warped plume]

linux bad

[mystic turtle]

seethe

(says the one who has constant out of memory errors on Fedora)

[kind falcon]

hello linus torvalds

[potent wolf]

linux bad

[spare obsidian]

its funny that tf2 has a rather obscure gamemode

that's an hybrid of ctf and cp and its obscure because no proper hud its used there lol

[kind falcon]

huh

[formal dew]

haarp?

[spare obsidian]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Tf_logic_hybrid_ctf_cp

no official maps uses this lol

and the hud its kinda busted

[radiant merlin]

it's from tfc

that's why it's incomplete

[spare obsidian]

well it wasn't part of 2007 tf2

so it has to be a later addiction by valve

[kind falcon]

later addiction

[potent wolf]

pre_jungleinferno_demos

pre_smissmas_2022_demos

they are back

[formal dew]

[burnt dragon]

what does that mean?

[potent wolf]

some newer versions of the game broke demo compatibility, and these branches allow you to switch to an older version of the game to play the demos back. recently, valve removed a bunch of old version branches from steam, and just added them back again.

[kind falcon]

that means that older versions of the game that are able to playback the demos of older versions that broke because of certain changes are now easily accessible, again

oh explode

[potent wolf]

[kind falcon]

Nope

[burnt dragon]

does "prerelease" means 2007 version?

[potent wolf]

I don't think so, it's currently synced with the public (main) branch

[burnt dragon]

?

weird

[kind falcon]

Why would that be publicly available.

[burnt dragon]

because people go "muh nostalgia"

and REALLY enjoy less QOL stuff

[pale basalt]

prerelease is just valves neglected beta branch

[potent wolf]

ah

[pale basalt]

marketplace and steam marketplace are not great sources of key prices due to marketplace.tf closed its doors to all sellers and steam's high market cut.
Mannco.store https://mannco.store/item/440-mann-co-supply-crate-key (has a decent fee too) and backpack are best to see modern key prices

[burnt dragon]

you can buy using crypto for much lower fees

if you are thinking about paying less

LTC is much more cheaper than any other option

[pale basalt]

i know how their fees are with crypto

inherently paying for the fees on certain crpytos for transfering anyways

[burnt dragon]

ah yeah I meant to say that for that person

sorry for the ping

[pale basalt]

mannco vs marketplace

even with mannco fees

[unborn pecan]

https://youtu.be/UNUd5gcAvRM

omg

new uncle dane video

🤯

200 * 2.49 = $498 dolors

😔 and that's without counting tax

oh he got a sponsor for the video

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-camus-philosophy-gif-27655787

[wild grove]

What sucks is that the burstchester unusualifier is the worst one you can get besides the director's vision.

[kind falcon]

says who

[cursive peak]

The Burstchester is amazing, though.

[spare obsidian]

millions must buy

[kind falcon]

billions must vote

[pale basalt]

atleast it was a ponzi scheme and not a gambling site

[hoary geyser]

wasn't it just one of those food websites

[burnt dragon]

he got multiple stranges and an unusual all class hat

that should cover 70% of the price

like 9 stranges I think

[summer steeple]

that would require selling them, and who knows if he'll sell those

maybe some of the strange war paints and hats

he didn't go over it in the vid but in the haul at the end he showed that he got 5 strange medkits lol

[formal dew]

he should engage in a small volume of trolling and delete all of them

[summer steeple]

if he only sells 4 thats a whole like... $1

he probably has like $2 in bomb carrier paints lol

[formal dew]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-gif-26506627

[kind falcon]

You have successfully sold an item on Steam Community Market.

[slender nexus]

how much does a big Mac cost

[summer steeple]

idk i've never eaten mcdonald

[slender nexus]

Let's use the big Mac scale to measure the TF2 economy

Let's use the big Mac scale to measure the TF2 economy

[proper tangle]

bought 4 keys, used them and sold the loot

Basically a whole dollar

[formal dew]

one macdonald coin

[burnt dragon]

he said he is going to trade

[hoary geyser]

$702

[left sand]

prerelease was used for testing the new toolchain beta in 2017

but it is generally used as a way to release stuff for testing before releasing it generally

it used to get updates a minute or so before the public branch

when jill was on the team

since it was set up to deploy that way

but now they dont do it that way

[summer steeple]

yeah trade for the stuff that he wants

not sell

[next nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/kittens-cats-slide-continuous-loop-gif-5393882

[cursive peak]

https://www.twitch.tv/rglgg

[nova bramble]

wonder if anyone has tried a 100 player freak fortress 2 server

[left sand]

https://twitter.com/BigJoeySlaps/status/1686190293819801600

💀𝕭𝖎𝖌 𝕵𝖔𝖊ץ💀 (@BigJoeySlaps)

GUYS -
I MESSED AROUND AND FOUND OUT THE EVICTION NOTICE IS ACTUALLY BROKEN IN VSH

IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE

WE FINALLY HAVE USE FOR THIS MELEE AGAIN! THANK YOU @valvesoftware

▶ Play video

Twitter · Aug 1, 2023, 1:41 AM

[summer steeple]

these feel so cherry picked lmao

like every single one of these is against hales that are not really using abilities

[orchid sorrel]

ok but its not hot hand

[radiant merlin]

does uncletopia now has slot reservation?

that's bs

[summer steeple]

honestly warriors spirit is better in VSH, since with mad milk it lets you get hit by hale and then heal like all of it back

so you can just face tank hale attacks while doing a uhhhh

fuckload of damage

[radiant merlin]

this rock is invisible wtf

[summer steeple]

sorse

[limpid panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUxHGsZIC0

there is no way this is Gianni speaking

uncanny

[unborn pecan]

Gianni's voices are the best

[limpid panther]

I agree, and he doesnt even do any dmg because he cant reach Hale moving around half the time

I've been feeling like the shield + eyelander is pretty powerful. You can even keep the primary since you are not really gonna charge

you can easly land 4 hits before he is able to brake the shield, and 4 hits give you 4 heads, which gives you more than 195 health plus the large mobility bonus

[summer steeple]

yeah because of the heads and extra hit from the shield things like booties are not really helpful

[limpid panther]

then you just fall back and heal as soon as he lands a hit, heal and repeat

[summer steeple]

compared to a projectile

[limpid panther]

like, if you are full health you can keep meleeing until he hits you once. Then once that happens you disappear in the middle of your teammates for heals and repeat

im averaging 4000 dmg every round

of course, if Hale knows how to play and just targets you instead of letting you leave, then there is not much you can do besides play cooperatively and shit

[radiant merlin]

loose cannon is evil against hale

[next nymph]

weapon suggestion: the hale marry

its a heavy melee thats a wedding ring and it makes you join hale's team, til death do us part

[cursive peak]

Does it cost $100 in real money?

[slender nexus]

Part of the Sex Update

[orchid sorrel]

i wanna run kritz in vsh but every game is like

• melee gimmicks
• pyros who die the moment i pop them
• direct hits/pipe demos who cant aim

personally i think a damage bonus on all melees would have been better than perma crits

[fleet kite]

Yeah Hale already gets debuffed by the team so much that crits have far less value

[fleet kite]

So I'm a little confused about the server having improved code. Does it use a leaked sourcecode to build the server? or do I just not understand how these things work

[jagged pawn]

should've just worked like mannpower (melees do +30% in that mode)

[orchid sorrel]

yeah

[fleet kite]

Then again, the crits do make it clear to new players that melees actually do more damage

[jagged pawn]

true

[limpid panther]

I think permakrits are fine how they are right now

lets just see how the casual meta progresses

[fleet kite]

rock paper scissors OP meta

[left sand]

https://vxtwitter.com/heavyfortres/status/1686334860820987904

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cute-hat-spin-black-dog-gif-17636852

[limpid panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2-0JWhExs4&t=829
@next nymph jumpscare

[kind falcon]

true

hi kenaj

[potent wolf]

@limpid panther jumpscare

oops, didn't mean to ping, sorry

[limpid panther]

hello

[kind falcon]

warframe

[limpid panther]

noooo

I don't wanna play that anymore

worse time sink of my life

[nova bramble]

Featuring the option to play as the mercs naked

[limpid panther]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ftb2Ahe3ixk

[radiant merlin]

@left sand is items_game altering hard to fix?

i believe that's how cheaters make infinite noisemakers

[kind falcon]

wrong

[potent wolf]

omg

it's removed on the client-side

[kind falcon]

yeah

for what

8 years now

no worries you can just send keyvalues to the server

[potent wolf]

yep, thats exactly what a certain cheat does

[kind falcon]

most cheats do

god bless

[potent wolf]

so apparently you can change the game window icon in huds?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783080457952428042/1135988247944761345/image.png

[spare obsidian]

yes

[kind falcon]

huh

[hoary geyser]

winrar

https://www.7-zip.org/download.html

[potent wolf]

not my screenshot, i use linux

()

[kind falcon]

replaycoding would never use win11

[left sand]

i already fixed it

[nova bramble]

btw gotta say that night i played on the 100 player server its probably the smoothest experience ive had with those kinds of servers

and with our hats too

also, something i always thought was weird, how come the ubersaw dosent charge with disguised spies

i thought it was a bug at first

[orchid sorrel]

Probably would be too easy to farm uber

Given that a medic’s first instinct when seeing a disguised spy is to melee him

[potent wolf]

also because it would expose the spy

[formal dew]

A medics first instinct when seeing a disguised spy is to give them a big kiss

[orchid sorrel]

With their saw

[radiant merlin]

what about the equip_region restriction

i think that's not fixed yet in live

[kind falcon]

hm?

[radiant merlin]

that exploit that used to unequip hats for everyone for some reason

[kind falcon]

please no fix . i want to stack cheap unusuals ||/s||

That is surely a equip region restriction.

[left sand]

equip regions are a big no no to fix

[radiant merlin]

that's not what i mean

i mean cheats that load custom items game

[left sand]

same

[formal dew]

reevaluating quickswitch

[kind falcon]

they dont have to

[radiant merlin]

that's what lmaolunch does

[kind falcon]

proof?

[radiant merlin]

it's in their page

[kind falcon]

erm

fair

[left sand]

equip region shouldn't be enforced

[next nymph]

hasnt valve tried to enforce it a few times already

[kind falcon]

Please provide an example.

[lean cove]

wtf

[nova bramble]

Not that it isn't already easy to farm uber, it's basically the only melee for medic you should be using

Alongside crossbow for primary

[lean cove]

lbоx and dtap aren't banned though........

[kind falcon]

Not if you hit all of your syringes.

[kind falcon]

Very true information I concur I agree.

[orchid sorrel]

Yes, so why make it even easier?

[nova bramble]

Because it dosent make sense

[orchid sorrel]

No, it makes sense

[nova bramble]

You're hitting an enemy spy, that should be contributing to your charge whenever he's disguised or not

I assumed it was a bug when I saw it wasn't doing it and it took me looking at a random tip in the game to realize it was a feature

In all seriousness though I feel like so few players in pubs pick medic because theres really only one viable load out with the only real variety being the mediguns

Anything else is trash is comparison and it makes it feel like there's really noy much to him

[orchid sorrel]

Because balance is more important, and valve deemed uber farming off disguised spys to be an issue i guess

I dont think any on hit effects should work on disguised spys tbh

[nova bramble]

That's a skill issue on the spys part

[orchid sorrel]

Yeah and then the whole team gets punished for it lol

[formal dew]

spy doesnt need inadvertent nerfs

yknow how gun mettle made you disguise faster if you already have a disguise

that speed should be used for all disguises

or was it tough break

[nova bramble]

Besides its less of an potential issue now since spy and medic are same speed

There's also ways they could balance the ubersaw so it can get uber off disguised spies and actually make sense

Like making it charge 20% with each hit

[orchid sorrel]

Damn so it tales one more swing

Spy is just naturally always going to be around a medic and just isnt as much of a threat when found out compared to other classes

Theres significantly less risk for a much higher reward that affects the spys entire team

[formal dew]

no on hit effects should activate on disguised spies

also spy's damage resistance when cloaked should be moved to during disguise

disguises are fubar and need all the help they can get

[orchid sorrel]

[left sand]

knockback doesn't work on spies

but airblast does

this is clearly a bug

it's unrealistic!!

[unborn pecan]

You sound like r/tf2

[formal dew]

grave insult

[spare obsidian]

they got a point however

[orchid sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs4iJIN_DgI

Who gave this man that hud

[nova bramble]

yeah but this one is just stupid and nonsensical, you're just making that normally works on any enemy not work just to pity the spy

if they really wanted the spy to have more of a chance, they should be making him more viable, not making everything else around him less effective

that and buff medic's other weapons so there's less insentive for everyone to pick ubersaw and crossbow

[next nymph]

valve should make spy less viable

[orchid sorrel]

Spy is no longer reproductively viable

[slender nexus]

scouts mom is now updated to be infertile

[summer steeple]

aside from the main menu it basically just looks like minmode

[small siren]

*aside from the main

menu it basically

just looks like minmode*

- treacherousfiend

[orchid sorrel]

he switched to min mode after his first few rounds

before that it was basically toonhud style minimal stuff

which sucks ass for new players

[slender nexus]

kittycat 🥰

[jagged pawn]

reminder to never play tf2 at degen hours, just joined 5 games in a row with all bots then closed the game lmfao

COME ONNNNN

[kind falcon]

america

[formal dew]

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/5112

[slender nexus]

wdym degen hours are 24/7

yesterday I joined a match, someone asked if I was transgender and when I said yes they started a votekick that passed almost immediately

[formal dew]

Tf

[slender nexus]

2

[kind falcon]

simply hide the chat

[wild grove]

I think this cubemap issue might be global, as in anything that uses a cubemap.

[summer steeple]

SUMMER 2023 COSMETIC CASES UP TO 4 CENTS, SELL SELL SELL

[wild grove]

wtf, why is it only 36k left?

[hoary geyser]

supply line collapse

[next nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/counterfeit-fake-bills-gif-20151393

[spare obsidian]

i wonder what map art style has not done yet?

like we have desert and urban

[summer steeple]

like officially added or just in general

[next nymph]

i havent seen any maps in the style of Escher

[spare obsidian]

officially

[orchid sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480079567458140171/1136422005114151043/image.png

[radiant merlin]

underwater

[orchid sorrel]

https://tf2maps.net/threads/mvm_seabed.33333/

does this count

[radiant merlin]

he said in-game

i was thinking about it

[orchid sorrel]

u never know,,,,

[radiant merlin]

mmm there's no coast desert

no polar deserts

[heavy solar]

@radiant merlin has leveled up! (18 ➜ 19)

[radiant merlin]

also no rivers lol

only enclosure has a river i think

no dryforests, no mangroves, no grasslands, a lot of +4000 aslm biomes

[formal dew]

github moment

[radiant merlin]

no full caves

[next nymph]

no minecraft maps have been officially added yet

[slender nexus]

Bradley Britches

[merry vault]

What does the Dragons Fury hitbox look like?

Giant cube? Actually sphereical? Sweet spot zone in the center etc?

[summer steeple]

i believe its a cube

i think a lot of the dragons fury debug commands are actually still in the game so you can check

[radiant merlin]

box

[unborn pecan]

@next nymph

you are famous

[merry vault]

Where would I find these? tf_debug_flamethrower 1 is the only one I know and its not working for DF

[summer steeple]

the tf_fireball commands

tf_fireball_draw_debug_radius is the one you want i think

and then you can set stuff like tf_fireball_speed to 0 and then crash the game by spawning a bunch of fireballs

[formal dew]

you can change all of the parameters but the visuals dont reflect it

which isnt unexpected

set airblast penalty to zero to never recharge

[west pilot]

@left sand server down?

[left sand]

why would it be up!

come play fortnite with us

[west pilot]

no

[formal dew]

Hop on Fortnite

[orchid sorrel]

hop on pikmin 4 dandori battle

||so sad that they dont let you play dandori battle online||

[left sand]

why not

[formal dew]

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-memes-moobloom-cow-meme-gif-24658873

[grim parcel]

@next nymph in the solarlight video 🤯
https://youtu.be/E2-0JWhExs4?t=827

[kind falcon]

are you trolling

[grim parcel]

no

[kind falcon]

everyone in thuis server will post this

eventually

[kind falcon]

ok bro sorry...

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-chicago-demoman-fight-video-g-ame-gif-17141705

[jagged pawn]

middle mann chad

[mystic turtle]

Yo talon

[kind falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003350241787002953/1128738650935525547/blinks.gif

what up

[stiff rose]

anyone know if disabling dynamic lighting / using lighting=medium_high fixes the dragon's fury frame drops?
can't find much conclusive info online and I'm currently in work so I can't check myself
tf2 wiki seems to say disabling dynamic lighting works so I'd imagine it does?
edit: ah, dynamic lighting is blocked behind sv_cheats apparently

[next nymph]

just found out the game theory study about digit lengths that was used to say pyro is a gay man is frequently criticized as not reproducible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio#Criticism

[left sand]

but jsnt it that the artistd can believe dtereotyles because pyro isnt real

[next nymph]

pyro is real in my heart

[stiff rose]

imo pyro is canonically a gaseous lifeform
this is confirmed by the fact they flips round like a rapidly deflating balloon when you headshot them

[unborn pecan]

Already sent this bro

[potent wolf]

https://youtu.be/E2-0JWhExs4?t=827

[kind falcon]

@next nymph have you seen? https://youtu.be/E2-0JWhExs4?t=827

[unborn pecan]

😭😭😭😭

I c

[grim parcel]

caught me reposting

[next nymph]

no i havent

[hoary geyser]

hey guys have you seen the new solarlight video!

[limpid panther]

and I had already sent it before you

so get up and stand down and get up and stand up and get up and sit down you son of a bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3W4YoEXbfA

[unborn pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-facetime-cute-cat-adorable-mood-gif-20748958

So mean 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[formal dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bo4u32FV9M

[radiant merlin]

bloodwater color correction

[unborn pecan]

fardwater

🔥

[next nymph]

enough honest reactions, what are you dishonest reactions

[formal dew]

[unborn pecan]

🥵

[slender nexus]

[kind falcon]

i wonder where these originate from

[slender nexus]

lame people club (not me I'm epic 😎)

[unborn pecan]

so true hikikostar

🔥

[tacit flare]

Do you think Valve will ever fix spawn wallhacks?

[formal dew]

unlikely

[tacit flare]

Do you think Valve can update TF2 without inadvertently fucking over Spy because they forgot about him?

[limpid panther]

are any teams starting to create maps designed for 50x50?

[summer willow]

fix spawn wallhacks?

[summer steeple]

the spawn outlines also highlight spies, which means that if you see one just randomly appear out of nowhere you know its a spy and can just chase them down and kill them

[formal dew]

skill issue /s

[summer steeple]

plus the outlines also show up while dead and spectating too

so just an extended period of time where if a spy decloaks you just know

[summer willow]

is not the point of the spy? look like other teammate?

[summer steeple]

to look like teammates sure, but its arguably worse for the spy that they show up on the outlines than if they didn't

it just encourages people to hunt down a spy that they wouldn't have known existed otherwise as soon as they spawn

it really is kinda a no win scenario tbh

having the outline brings them closer in line to teammates but adds another way for people to know its a spy, but not having it also adds a new way for people to know its a spy, plus its a weird discrepancy between how a teammate looks and how a disguised spy looks

[formal dew]

good thing is that it was probably implemented by someone who left after tough break and will never be touched again

also very perf intensive

i turned it off immediately and never used it

[summer willow]

hmmm

i actually use outlines in medium that just enables for payload and brief case because i know this, calling wallhack is kinda idk but for me is work as intended

[cursive peak]

It's also pretty obvious when you see your own name above one of the outlines. I've called out so many Spies that way.

[summer willow]

and also because performance sucks, but is good for new players, in the beginning i get very lost and now i see people getting very lost and walking to the end of the map

spy is a complicated class, i should play more

[summer steeple]

yeah i don't doubt that it was added with good intentions, and i think it does help, its just an unintentional nerf to spy, which is already a kind of weak class

[summer willow]

why tf2 maps is so inconsistency

[formal dew]

huh

[summer willow]

let me get some examples

[orchid sorrel]

Because they’re all made by different people

[summer willow]

its mostly about having and not having collisions and invisible walls

[limpid panther]

because they were made over the span of 10 years by dozens of different people

including members of the community

the art direction is surprisingly consistent at least up until a few years ago

[summer willow]

is like, why can i go in this roof but not there?

[limpid panther]

balance

[summer willow]

doesnt seems like much will change

also why cant i go there? if is about engineers placing things, even that will not change that much, theres a surface material, brush, idk that blocks placing buildings

[limpid panther]

balance

[summer willow]

so yeah, the maps are old and now soldier and demoman in literal any maps, they can get much higher than any roof or the object that blocks besides invisible walls

[summer willow]

but how?

[limpid panther]

explosive classes can jump up and camp from a very advantageous spot

one more angle to look at right after a very tight corridor that is already easily spammable

[summer willow]

why can i go 1 scout jump up to the roof that i already in the roof?

i can go here but

some maps, when you know how works, just become kinda caustrophobic

[limpid panther]

balance

[summer willow]

i dont think so

[unborn pecan]

clearly you are not aware of the secret guidlines valve puts out to mapmakers to intentionaly cause this

[mystic turtle]

You folks were right
Laggy sniper is lowkey busted
I joined a server down in Europe, and the latency really gives me a larger window to shoot

[left sand]

they used to allow tall roofs, double layered roofs, etc

but there were too many exploits

[mystic turtle]

Demos hopping out of relative sight (i.e. somewhat far above the players) and sticky spamming?

(and cow mangler soldiers as well)

I say "relative sight" because we all know the old adage regarding TF2 players and looking up

[fleet kite]

What, gay people are people, and not some alien race? Shocking xd

[slender nexus]

team Fortnite 2: rumble

[fleet kite]

Oof, I'm late

[summer willow]

nop and i want to know

[fleet kite]

Try spy next lmao. I actually felt bad when I played with high ping as spy, I was suddenly getting stabs

[summer willow]

like i played titanfall 2 because the valve games and source engine and movement and is fucking amazing to go anywhere that i can see, well, at least in my experience and i know, because of this, is very easy to "break" the game

but its different so

[mystic turtle]

Hm, since I'm on 2fort, might as well become the French shark
I was already getting the swing of it yesterday... it doesn't help that it's very difficult to see in 2fort's water, even when you go out of your way to set water_ultra in the comfig

[formal dew]

99% of the time a roof is blocked off bc it would be broken with soldier and demo

Also

[mystic turtle]

God save y'all if an engie sentry jumps up there and drops a tele for the sniper to camp

[formal dew]

When they fixed pyro's finger they should have silently changed the length of their fingers by a tiny amount to fuck with people

one pixel

[fleet kite]

Turning pyro more gay one update at a time

[formal dew]

Pyro cannot physically be made more gay

Maybe with a source 2 port

[summer willow]

about buildings is very easy to make not being able to place, like here

and at the same time theres a lot of wrong brushes that makes possible to being able to stay like in the sky, like the beginning of badwater, and that bug that you can bug into walls somehow

or maybe

[orchid sorrel]

apparently some spy youtuber just scammed like 500 in keys???

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561199258848645

[small siren]

*apparently some

spy youtuber just scammed like

500 in keys???*

- drcactus

[summer steeple]

typical tf2ber

do you think this will actually negatively affect his popularity

or will people just forget

[left sand]

none other than klown xD

[kind falcon]

legend

[next nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/sol-et-goblet-sol-et-gobelet-sol-gobelet-tvqc-gif-24021866

[paper sluice]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/457714

this mod so swag

1000x better than what valve themselves did,..,

my queued for casual thing wotn spin 😢

[potent wolf]

good

[kind falcon]

performance config

[paper sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-shower-guy-crying-in-shower-guts-theme-sadness-gif-22111507

coms why have you don htsi,,.

[slender nexus]

I keep getting killed as soldier by getting my rockets airblasted back at me 😭

😭😭😭

[potent wolf]

keep shooting the pyros, it'll work eventually

[mystic turtle]

Aim at the ground well beside them for splash
Careful, though. The airblast hitbox is huge and unintuitive
I've had those troubles as soldier before... That was a decent solution

[slender nexus]

I also try to bring out my shotgun but I either miss most of my shots or they deal about 17dmg on hit

[cursive peak]

Just shoot later than you normally would.

[mystic turtle]

Aw man, same
Even when my crosshair seems completely zeroed in, it still deals no damage... I love internet shittery and my aim being off

[kind falcon]

brainlag competitive advantage

[mystic turtle]

Yeah, that too
Think of it like a whiff punish in a fighting game. If the Pyro airblasts instinctively, that's your time to shoot for a direct

Otherwise, fish for hits with the shotgun and splash damage
And remember, you have a little bit of time to move away if you have a positional advantage; Pyros are faster than Soldier (grounded) but have much less range

[cursive peak]

Just don't rocket jump away. It's always great reflecting an attempted rocket jump.

[slender nexus]

[kind falcon]

map stamp investor

[slender nexus]

my new favorite soldier loadout is liberty launcher+reserve shooter

and equalizer

[mystic turtle]

Reserve shooter is lowkey busted, actually, since it synergizes well with good aim
There's a reason why it was (or maybe still is) banned in certain comp environments and is frowned upon when used in MGE
And the equalizer is not bad per se, it's just middling
The weakest link is the launcher for the simple reason that its damage blows

[jagged pawn]

yeah it's still banned in 6s because you can delete bombing soldiers lol, it's insane how strong it is

they simply cannot make it balanced, it's impossible for them

[mystic turtle]

The only way would be to make it take so long to switch it makes the Half-Zatoichi look like the Panic Attack
And we already know that that's an extremely frustrating change—something that Valve does a little too much with some weapons

[limpid panther]

the seal doesn't look good at all

it is floppy, since they modelled it to be laying on its belly, it is oval in the direction it is. If Hale held it like that, it would be melting and involving his arm in a totally different way

[paper sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1129198969961054429.webp?size=48&name=redfirillion&quality=lossless

[limpid panther]

like, I get it doesn't need to look realistic, it just needs to look good. But I see the seal and I imagine a very fat and floppy creature, and the way it is shaped while Hale holds it make it look like a solid object made of Styrofoam

[jagged pawn]

that wouldn't make it balanced that would make it shit lol. the only way to make it balanced is to split it equalizer-style into a soldier weapon and a pyro weapon

[mystic turtle]

Hm, that would make sense

[radiant merlin]

this shouldn't be supposed to play for RED at all but it does due to a bug lol

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/3578

[glass musk]

yeah I've been using this one since it released

[paper sluice]

all my teammates a bunch of hoes

their moms a hoe

their dads a hoe

their dog and cat are hoes bruh they just keep leaving mid round

literally less than half the team left while the other is full

smh they've never heard nickeh30 wise words of wisedom

[small siren]

*smh never

heard nickeh30 wise

words of wisedom*

- skyrym

[summer steeple]

i was bored and looking at various tf2 related people with my friends

apparently mike morasky, most well known probably for the tf2 OST (and other valve OSTs, in some cases with kelly bailey) was like a lead VFX guy for things like crowds in lord of the rings???

like

this was probably prior to working at valve, cause tf2 was his first game at valve

[formal dew]

Hot damn

Catwoman

How could valve get someone with that pedigree

[summer steeple]

it makes sense, cause valve likes hiring people who are good at multiple things, and valve doesn't need a composer working on music for games all the time

plus at the time having kelly bailey already

so having a guy who could do music and also VFX stuff (and apparently programming according to wikipedia) was probably a nobrainer for valve

[formal dew]

what's dhabih eng doing lately

[summer steeple]

idk but this is his entire bio on valve's website

greg coomer also has a great one

[formal dew]

I thought eng left

like Viktor antonov

welp

I must turn in my valve fan documentation

[formal dew]

greg coomer's reaction to checking know your meme circa 2019

[summer steeple]

i find it funny that you can really tell that all the people at valve wrote their own bio

because some of them are fully serious, others have jokes, some are first person, etc.

this one is good

[formal dew]

I'd have a secret link in the text that doesn't appear to be clickable but if you click it it's a zip bomb

see how long it takes to get noticed

[summer steeple]

i love the idea that gabe's most significant contibution to half-life was a thing he said one time

based dude left blizzard for valve
also likes good UV maps

missing space smh

[formal dew]

I wonder if their hardware plant in Illinois was repurposed for the deck or just sold

That shit looked cool

[summer steeple]

valve is certainly a very interesting company

[formal dew]

rip steam controller

[summer steeple]

like they have a lot of people from all over the world

[formal dew]

Yup

[summer steeple]

i remember hearing about the kinda crappy diversity there and assumed it was basically all just US but its really not

its still not like... great

like 95% men

[formal dew]

iirc Gabe donated to dark brandon

[summer steeple]

and even with all the people from around the world its still like 95% white too

maybe even 99%

i've often considered applying to valve

and i definitely flip flop a lot

not that i have the experience

but just as a thing to consider in the future

but tbh i'm not sure it'd be a good work environment for me

whether or not the whole "no boss" thing is particularly true i think i'd just suck at it

[formal dew]

have you ever sent fixes to the contractor

I forgor

[summer steeple]

i've never bugged ficool or josh about anything but i've sent like 1 or 2 to eric

he's never responded to them

and tbh the ones i've sent were shit

actually thats not totalyl true

i sent him 1 fix

and he did respond just to say "yep we know other people have told us"

and everything else was a complete waste of time on my end

i think i do have like 2 or 3 fixes that are about 20% done that i haven't worked on in a while

ugh

i actually don't know how many i've sent him

i think i've sent most of my fixes to the tf2 email

but the issue with the like contact forum is that it doesn't send me back like a confirmation email or anything

so i have no records of what i've sent aside from stuff where i've just said "fuck it" and emailed directly

[formal dew]

Yeah

[summer steeple]

which i'm not entirely sure even go through

if they do they're probably filtered

like idk how they have their emails setup and its probably different for each employee but I bet at the very least they have stuff that flags incoming mail from outside the company as being that

i know that some companies do that

In the future i need to start like documenting stuff i send to valve

i think most of them i've also put on the source 1 issue repo

[small siren]

*i think most of them

i've also put on the source

1 issue repo*

- treacherousfiend

[crisp cedar]

try again in a year

[warped plume]

i hate that the winger gets a tiny boost in damage

i want 20%

[slender nexus]

Literally so me bestie

[potent wolf]

ouch

[kind falcon]

many men

[limpid panther]

after playing 100 players I started using the Amputator in normal matches and its surprisingly useful in casual

more useful than the Ubersaw, even

[slender nexus]

3 big guys

[limpid panther]

I was totally unaware that the rate of healing was so fast! its like you have your beam connected to everyone around you

do you guys know of any video that explains exactly how it works?

like: how often it checks for visibility, how the heal works exactly (I suspect that they simply apply the medbeam effect)

[left sand]

yeah

[slender nexus]

[paper sluice]

😳

[lean cove]

ikr

people always complain about me using it but it can clutch

[paper sluice]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/433005

[slender nexus]

Epic

[heavy solar]

@slender nexus has leveled up! (40 ➜ 41)

[mystic turtle]

so, I decided to test a random thing to see if it got rid of my out of memory and address space errors, and it worked
The fix was to make a blank glshaders.cfg and a blank glbaseshaders.cfg
combined with Getchoo's malloc, my RAM usage has never been lower!—although it will still require some testing
So I know if it spits OOM errors after several hours of play

(thanks coms for finding that fix originally)

[potent wolf]

+mat_autoload_glshaders 0 in launch options does the same thing iirc

[mystic turtle]

hm, I see
Perhaps there's something wrong with the way they're coded by default
So they leak
Bc I still had crashes even after I uninstalled the comfig, but they somehow went away when I did that fix

[potent wolf]

I think it's a mesa bug

i've had oom errors that were fixed by deleting the mesa shader cache

rm -rf ~/.cache/mesa_shader_cache/

[mystic turtle]

that too
something wrong with the cfgs that cause mesa to lose its shit

[mystic turtle]

whoa, I might wanna try that

[paper sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uYTC0d-9ig

best mod 2023

[paper sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxnX0_phKcI

funn j

[orchid sorrel]

i didnt even know money can get stuck in coaltown death pit

[limpid panther]

any1?

[mystic turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEEZ2P6HPNg
found this recently
I think it's kinda neat

[left sand]

good news

explosion fix is back on the menu

[kind falcon]

rabbit named explosion

[orchid sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdfXlQmNsE4

Lol

Cant believe this actually works

[fleet kite]

mmm pathfinding

the funniest to me is the snipers

[paper sluice]

A OR B AND FOR WHAT REASON

[left sand]

A

[crisp cedar]

both look off but i guess b

[cursive peak]

RGL Highlander grand finals in about half an hour. https://www.twitch.tv/rglgg

[paper sluice]

that is NOT a or b,..,

[potent wolf]

A

[paper sluice]

what even causes r_drawviewmodel to change the lighting of the 3d player model on the HUD

[limpid panther]

both look weird, A looks slightly less weird

[left sand]

the contrast is great on A

[paper sluice]

Contrast from the environment?

[left sand]

arms

legs

pants

[summer steeple]

I like how A kind of blends the colors from the main un-ubered texture

and on B the dark splotches look kinda random

[fleet kite]

yeah B looks vaguely texture not found-ish

[summer steeple]

oh my god is it actually blending with a missing texture

[small siren]

*oh my god is it

actually blending with

a missing texture*

- treacherousfiend

[paper sluice]

It’s not

[left sand]

UV moment

[summer steeple]

oh is it just beta model UVs?

[summer willow]

i was looking for custom huds that is more vanilla or changes a lot, theres a lot of huds that i cant see the differences because is just floating numbers and bars, wanna try something different even if is outdated, recommendations?

[cursive peak]

omphud and goathud are 2 of my all time favorites.

[paper sluice]

coolhud

https://gamebanana.com/mods/26080

[summer willow]

coolhud is cool

but for some reason the info.vdf is formatted in utf-16le and because of this doesnt work on linux without changing

also the author uses .rar

[west pilot]

does anyone here make TF2 mods? I will pay for a mod that replaces the model of Nessie's Nine Iron with a folding chair

my budget is 20 bucks

[paper sluice]

ill do it for free tomorrow

anyone know if an existing folding chair prop exists

[slender nexus]

4 doubloons from this scallywag

[fleet kite]

I mean tf2c has one

[paper sluice]

gibbe gibbe

thank you for your service

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1091374798145331281.webp?size=48&name=allsmiles&quality=lossless

now i just need to figure out the filename

do you know what map it was on

[fleet kite]

I think its a custom weapon mod, actually. I'm looking

[paper sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1096558852566163536.webp?size=48&name=sohappy&quality=lossless

[fleet kite]

It's one of these https://gamebanana.com/mods/415275
https://gamebanana.com/mods/40389 but I cant confirm atm

[heavy solar]

@fleet kite has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)

[paper sluice]

Cool beans

Tysm this makes this a lot easier

[paper sluice]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/441055

look at the screenshots https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1099127552137764975.webp?size=48&name=sobin&quality=lossless

[left sand]

@kind falcon

[paper sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1096558852566163536.webp?size=48&name=sohappy&quality=lossless

[summer steeple]

hevily

totally completely unrelated

but i'm poking around the minigun code cause i was curious how revving is handled

apparently during raid mode boss battles the minigun had inherent projectile destruction

which is interesting

[paper sluice]

anyone think that it would be possible for maps to change the current map through vscript or some other way
that way you could make these old types of map voting lobbies

it might just be,,.,

oh ok

time to make peak,,.,

[formal dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662838275085697040/1138587798203539566/279446742.png

[paper sluice]

nut file

[summer steeple]

yes

what was valve cooking... adding giant mvm bots to their own team, but not incrementing TF_TEAM_COUNT

[summer steeple]

bruh the dispenser has an idle noise?

i had no clue

[spare obsidian]

that's a define

#define TF_TEAM_PVE_INVADERS_GIANTS TF_TEAM_BLUE

[summer steeple]

TF_TEAM_BLUE is 3

TF_TEAM_PVE_INVADERS_GIANTS is 4

[spare obsidian]

uh

send link

[summer steeple]

literally look at the image

its possible the teamnumber is unused

still weird tho

[spare obsidian]

i was referring to the link of the vdc entry

[summer steeple]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Team_Fortress_2/Scripting/Script_Functions/Constants

lmao this is why

[spare obsidian]

lol

ah yeah

i remember now

there's visuals_robot iirc

[paper sluice]

he has got to be GRIPPING that sandal for it to do that

[formal dew]

doesn't want it to fall off

[slender nexus]

there's broken glass and he really doesn't want to step on it

[formal dew]

we need more pants cosmetics

for all of them

[slender nexus]

we need jorts

[formal dew]

pants update

[slender nexus]

team colored jorts

jeackets

jeans shoes

[formal dew]

we need a full body cosmetic that doesn't have a model but applies a funky normal map to the stock mercenaries so they look like theyre made of jean material

Would probably look like ass

[paper sluice]

sneaky beaky like

[formal dew]

Is that a reference to the fight lmao

I've seen folding chair memes lately

[paper sluice]

oh no lmao someone asked for a folding chair replacement mod for the nine iron but i guess that works too

[zealous pond]

That's why it's a good idea.

[cursive peak]

All class Canadian Tuxedo cosmetic?

[formal dew]

Yup

The jeans update

[cursive peak]

Day of the Denim

[jagged pawn]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/445578

if you're using on linux you have to install the fonts manually unfortunately. otherwise it's sick

[summer willow]

weird, i used but i didnt install the fonts, so idk with was right but flawhud seems works fine with the fonts that comes with

or just default to another font, idk

[jagged pawn]

yeah it defaults to like arial or something and it looks like shit lol

[paper sluice]

which backpack icon do yall think is better

[summer steeple]

left

[orchid sorrel]

i just realized you cant put robots destroyed on mediguns

[mystic turtle]

dafuq

[grim parcel]

r/tf2 creaming over this item concept

[paper sluice]

thoughts on the neutral team texture
idk if i should completely desaturate the middle or not, currently it isnt it fully desaturated, it has a slight orange/yellow tinge

[next nymph]

red has stains and blu has scratches

[jagged pawn]

lmfaoooooo not the battle of montgomery

[paper sluice]

good idea i wanted more team specific details

but what about the neutral texture,,.,

[summer steeple]

trying out some new movement code graciously ported to vscript by ficool

clearly, working as intended

[paper sluice]

mickael jaqueson

[summer steeple]

my code is such a fucking mess holy moly

I like want to rewrite it from scratch but its so much

like i don't know why my bot isn't turning

and i was stupid and moved files around without commiting so my current git changes don't show anything

i am going to explode

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[formal dew]

tf2 team member after spending 12 hours of work fixing regressions for every 30 minutes of new code

[summer steeple]

ok but like

imagine that but having to reimplement a bunch of stuff in a different language because its no accessible or non-functional

piecing together various libraries from different people

[small siren]

*piecing together

various libraries from

different people*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

starting from scratch probably is the best option

ugh

well at the very least that'll help clear out all the old depreceated code that i don't want to use but removing will cause me to spend 5 hours replacing

and just streamline things

cause my code is modular and in several different files but every single one needs like a path back to the main entity to grab data

i need to set it up so that everything shares the same scope

[glass musk]

sorry for ping but do you know if mastercomfig ultra preset sets the shadow detail to medium? @summer steeple

ah

[paper sluice]

@west pilot here's the chair mod
also comes with sounds to make it sound less sword like
ill submit this to gamebanana later

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1129198969961054429.webp?size=48&name=redfirillion&quality=lossless

[nova bramble]

always wondered, does mat_queue actually do anything?

[formal dew]

fucks up console printing afaik

[summer steeple]

i believe it handles multithreading

-1 should be the ideal value for most situations, because it just means that the game handles everything

[mystic turtle]

IIRC some settings other than -1 leave listen servers unplayable (you get frozen in place)

[eternal haven]

You're probably thinking of host_thread_mode

mat_queue_mode pretty much only affects the materialsystem and shouldn't have any effect like that on listen servers

[mystic turtle]

I see
Thanks for clarifying

[formal dew]

question for vgui enjoyers

Can you have ui elements that are in the same location but only appear in a certain game state

Aka have a ui box draw when in the main menu but not when in a map and a different ui box done vice versa

There's some real estate in the tf2 footer that's only used for votes when in a map that could be utilized by stuff in the main menu

[west pilot]

Let’s fucking go lmao

[summer steeple]

it really depends on the "game state", sometimes its hardcoded, othertimes there's keyvalues like "is_mvm" (which is only setup for specific hud files), its a massive pain in the ass

oh man this is jank

ok so

for the main menu in specific

it seems like the buttons functionality is controlled by gamemenu.res

which has these helpful identifiers

but the actual positioning of these buttons is handles by mainmenuoverride.res

for... some reason

this is the only file i've ever seen do it like this

for most things, like the scoreboard its just stuff like this

which, once again, is hardcoded to specific files what keyvalues are allowed

I have a list somewhere of most of the files

ugh just looking at this damn file is pissing me off

because so much of tf2's hud is just at the whim of whoever coded it

and its so hardcoded

a lot of things that could've very easily been handled just by the res file just.. aren't

lots of very specific panels that are only in very specific files

code checking specific panels

forced textures

variables that are once again completely at the whim of whoever code it

i am FOREVER mad that the max health variable is forcefully hidden unless you are missing 5+ health by just... setting the value to null

like they could've made it call an animation, or just hide the panel outright, but nooooo it has to make the value fucking null

if i keep looking at this file i'm gonna scream i have to close it

[small siren]

*if i keep looking

at this file i'm gonna scream

i have to close it*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

i just saw something that is measured in pixels

and ooooh

my blood is BOILING

[west pilot]

Valve should port panorama to TF2 so people can make cool huds with it

[kind falcon]

opinion

[jagged pawn]

no

[crisp cedar]

i agree, the csgo community has made an insane amount of amazing huds since they got panorama

[kind falcon]

crazy statement

[glass musk]

hot take: panorama UI ruined CS:GO

[west pilot]

This feels like sarcasm

I mean, they super locked down CSGO’s customization for competitive reasons but that’s not really how TF2, even competitive TF2 works

I think they don’t have to do the same

[formal dew]

Huds are monetizable with panorama

hud skin case

[crisp cedar]

yeah, which is why tf2 wont get panorama

unironically tho i dont think thered be much merit

the current system works well enough for a low maintenance game

i feel like the point we should be asking for panorama is when tf2 has more than 5 people working on it

and when we're getting actual updates

like ACTUAL updates with valve made things

or valve commissioned things

[slender nexus]

the ship for big updates like jungle inferno has long set sail

[formal dew]

grill though

[hoary geyser]

tf2 will be ported to goldsrc by 2016

[formal dew]

🙏

[proper tangle]

All I want is more fixes and improvements

Like team comtress