Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year

[summer steeple]

embarrasing on valve's end?

[unborn pecan]

It is

[lean cove]

remember the sightlines from blu spawn on venice

[unborn pecan]

it's crazy

[summer steeple]

like tf2 mapping and csgo mapping is so different

and this proves that 100 times over

because this map just doesn't work

[unborn pecan]

csgo mapping is easier

[spare obsidian]

that dude was a csgo mapper?

[unborn pecan]

like mastercoms explained

[summer steeple]

yes

[unborn pecan]

yup

50 hours in tf2?

i think

[summer steeple]

yeah

they've done good work before

both of them

[unborn pecan]

A quake mapper could make a better tf2 map

[summer steeple]

but making a map from scratch in a month for an update

[radiant merlin]

quake mappers did tf2 maps

[teal sand]

sulfur looks cool

[summer steeple]

with no experience mapping for tf2, let along PLAYING tf2

[kind falcon]

cus it is

[summer steeple]

thats some confidence thats like

idek

[teal sand]

did freyja do it

[summer steeple]

yeah

[unborn pecan]

it is

[unborn pecan]

me (no brain)

[summer steeple]

overconfidence to a level that is frankly terrifying

and the fact that it got added is...

i worry it'll feed that overconfidence

[unborn pecan]

moronic levels of overconfidence

[lean cove]

prolly just cause it looks good tbh

[teal sand]

do u mean venice?

[summer steeple]

yeah

[summer steeple]

a lot of other maps look better though!

[spare obsidian]

and i wanted to make a avanti map

[lean cove]

thats true

[unborn pecan]

if I ever get into mapping

I will make Iranian tf2 map

[summer steeple]

btw

[unborn pecan]

then french map (it is on fire)

[summer steeple]

there are 2 boat props used in venice

1 of them is the yeti-park boat

that has a bite in it

i think this is what adds to venice kinda feeling like a joke

even if you're not going to make a new asset, or even edit an existing one

[unborn pecan]

😭 it looks so out of place

[summer steeple]

there are plenty of pre-existing community assets

sure you have to give them a cut

[spare obsidian]

this map is the one with the seal isn't?

[summer steeple]

no

thats selbyen

literally i think all the maps in this update are great except venice and cashworks

venice because it was rushed and cashworks because its a map from 2008 and i don't really like how maps from that time period played

I hope they improve this map

the same way i hope that wutville will get improved

[spare obsidian]

eh i mean crashworks is a novelty map tbh

[unborn pecan]

nah

fuck positive improvement

[kind falcon]

cashworks is awsem. such a swag name

[unborn pecan]

💯 I am a hater 100% percent

[summer steeple]

i would LOVE to be proven wrong

so god damn much

[spare obsidian]

i mean literally we have hydromap

[summer steeple]

because all i want is for people to succeed

[unborn pecan]

i would LOVE for you to not be proven wrong

[spare obsidian]

that map didn't change like at all lol

[unborn pecan]

fiend you are so hopeful 😭

[summer steeple]

yeah i am

its a critical flaw

[unborn pecan]

You are like an anime protaganist

or Steven Universe

[summer steeple]

not to be confused with criticalflaw

is that their name

i forget

[unborn pecan]

yeah

[summer steeple]

i'm bad with names

ok cool

[unborn pecan]

They are still in this server

[summer steeple]

i said critical flaw without even thinking and then my brain was like "isn't that a person related to tf2"

[unborn pecan]

Flawhud

[kind falcon]

opted out

[unborn pecan]

is good

[spare obsidian]

any tips to create a map¡

[teal sand]

Lol! Lol !

[unborn pecan]

throw away your sanity and time

then your dignity

and your cpu power

then you are ready

[kind falcon]

wow. i am ready for tf2 mapping

[spare obsidian]

i've lost everything

[unborn pecan]

you are more than ready

[kind falcon]

unfortunately you can’t use computer if you lost everything

[small siren]

*unfortunately

you can’t use computer if

you lost everything*

- slug

[unborn pecan]

erm

dead chat?

2 minutes no talk

[kind falcon]

hi

[unborn pecan]

howdy

https://tenor.com/bTeqf.gif

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-cute-cat-hi-hello-gif-20385839

[radiant merlin]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003483454

also, ow2 servers being down for like 3 hours

[summer steeple]

also, coms was WRONG, that voiceline is not the spy, its gray mann
https://youtu.be/xyB9Xrtn6K4?t=856

[left sand]

still though the class lines sound ass

[summer steeple]

i haven't heard most of them but i wouldn't doubt that they sound weird

[left sand]

union moment

[summer steeple]

why pay your VAs when the community does the work for you and their payment is already set up

[paper sluice]

some are good some are bad
spy is bad

[left sand]

207k peak

[summer steeple]

honestly i think part of the issue might be just that its the same dude for all of them

[paper sluice]

it is

i think

[teal sand]

he sounds like heavy

[summer steeple]

like you'd have to have some crazy good range to VA literally every single merc

[paper sluice]

the folder says his name

[unborn pecan]

i think the voice lines come from the community map

and valve didn't bother to record new ones

[summer steeple]

they do

[unborn pecan]

but

Didn't valve record new voice lines for taunts?

[summer steeple]

no?

[unborn pecan]

oh

[teal sand]

i could do it, it would just sound really bad and not like the mercs

[summer steeple]

i don't think valve has added new voice lines to the game in years

[summer steeple]

like JI might've been the last

if not MYM

[radiant merlin]

anyone excited for TOMORROW?

[left sand]

enough

[kind falcon]

never enough

[radiant merlin]

hopefully is not a funny misinfo

so yeah, summer update 2.0 robotic boogaloo

[spare obsidian]

it is reall btw

[kind falcon]

Brazilian real?

[grim parcel]

give me your soldier impression

i’ll judge it and forward it to gaben

[wild grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWZCDzTBb8

oh it's this guy!

I remember watching it and being like this is almost spot on!

[jagged pawn]

alright played every map, final ranking

Selbyen
Reckoner
Sulfur
Sharkbay
Cashworks
Rotunda
Hardwood
Phoenix
Pelican Peak
Venice

[lean cove]

venice last 💪

[jagged pawn]

YEAHHHH

[radiant merlin]

updoot?

yeah updoot

yes yes updoot

[kind falcon]

doot doot

[radiant merlin]

no patch notes yet

[unborn pecan]

"People have been asking me, 'Donny, what do you think about that—uh—new team Fortress map?' That one map—venice. If you really wanna know my honest opinion—and ya do—it's bad. Yup, mhm hmm. Bad, no way around it."

[jagged pawn]

REAL

[kind falcon]

@unborn pecan why did you heart your own message

[unborn pecan]

I love it so much

I legit stopped brushing my teeth to type this out on a phone

With all the fancy punctuation

[kind falcon]

"This message is pretty cool. I am its author and I think I did a great job."

[unborn pecan]

Yup

[radiant merlin]

https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=206198

[unborn pecan]

Oh cool

New update

[radiant merlin]

vsh maps still down

[kind falcon]

new fix

[spare obsidian]

no fix for the achievements crash

[kind falcon]

what achievements crash

[spare obsidian]

or what was it fixed already?

click on the achievements button on the menu

insta crash

[kind falcon]

give one second

[grim parcel]

damn the office plant working over time

it’s like 10pm there

[kind falcon]

gabe himself making the updates from nz

[spare obsidian]

hey would a Invade/AD flag map would work in the tf2 gameplay scene?

ctf has support for invade flag type

[radiant merlin]

like a/d but worse

[spare obsidian]

depends on the map tbh lol

tfc dustbowl really sucks

[radiant merlin]

invade simply isn't good

that's why a/d exists

[spare obsidian]

invade is technically a/d....

according to the code its literally the same thing lol

[radiant merlin]

a/d is invade but fixed

[small siren]

*according to the

code its literally the

same thing lol*

- Brodspy

[spare obsidian]

i mean a/d in code literally has a TFTodo tag lol

[cursive peak]

ctf_haarp is a thing.

[spare obsidian]

btw how would you implement old tfc maps into tf2 again? : thinking:

[jagged pawn]

CASHWORKS IS SO BACK

[cursive peak]

Several have been ported.

[kind falcon]

nevermind . my hud doesnt have a button for achievements.

https://tenor.com/view/mimimimimi-cat-sleeping-snoring-cat-sleeping-cat-drooling-cat-gif-23979759

[spare obsidian]

F

[kind falcon]

no, is a w

[radiant merlin]

the only popular tfc map left is avanti

but its layout is kinda shit tbh

[spare obsidian]

i mean you can obv with a lot of heavy work

[jagged pawn]

where is warpath

[spare obsidian]

that's how tf2 dustbowl was after all lol

if i was to remade Avanti i would first do a dev block out so i can test the layout

[radiant merlin]

for me it looks like doublecross

[kind falcon]

doublecross but smaller ??!?

[spare obsidian]

no way 😨

[radiant merlin]

achievements button still crashes the game

[heavy solar]

@radiant merlin has leveled up! (16 ➜ 17)

[cursive peak]

I think dom_canalzone was a TFC map?

[jagged pawn]

it was yeah

dom deserves another chance tbh

[cursive peak]

Whoever did a TF2 port of Warpath made it ridiculously huge.

[wild grove]

why is it crashing the game?

[radiant merlin]

LoadControlSettings failed! Invalid resource filename!

[wild grove]

oh so some file is borked?

[spare obsidian]

that's the problem with porting golddrc maps you either made them too big or too small

valve's whole documentation and notes on how long did they took to improve dustbowl because the original iterations they did really sucks ass lol

specially the funny comments robin walker made too

[cursive peak]

I'm pretty sure second to second on TF2 Warpath is about the size of 1st to 1st on most other 5CP maps.

Largest mid I can think of.

[jagged pawn]

I know this isn't an original thought but I'm genuinely confused as to why we didn't get an update page for the first new gamemode in 8 years

[spare obsidian]

its technically arena mode

[jagged pawn]

but it's not

[spare obsidian]

yeah its weird

[jagged pawn]

like it's related to arena, in the same way that multiple game modes have payloads

[spare obsidian]

tf2 has really obscure levels of sub game modes that either people didn't know or never tried (example is tc_ lol)

although tc_hydro isn't the best execution of the game mode but ar least gives out an idea

[cursive peak]

TC is just a worse 5CP.

[spare obsidian]

by its own its not great but it doesn't help the map where the game mom its being feature also... its a maze

[cursive peak]

It's 5CP with everyone going back to spawn every cap.

[small siren]

*It's 5CP with

everyone going back to

spawn every cap.*

- steamworks

[spare obsidian]

basically multi stage 5CP lol

[cursive peak]

So hot garbage.

[summer steeple]

I played hydro for the first time yesterday

idk if its bad because its TC or if its bad because its hydro

[spare obsidian]

i think its bc hydro

[summer steeple]

i feel like in theory a good mapper could maybe make a good TC map

[spare obsidian]

the map doesn't do sny favor

[jagged pawn]

the map is unironically fun, play some community ports to other game modes if you get the chance

[radiant merlin]

sauce?

[jagged pawn]

tc is just fundamentally a bad idea

[cursive peak]

It's just a worse 5CP

[radiant merlin]

i want to see it

[summer steeple]

yeah true

[cursive peak]

Just strip all concept of momentum from 5CP and you get TC.

[summer steeple]

TC also has a horrible back capping problem

i think because its only 2cps a round you basically have to dedicate people to either defending or attacking

there's no push or pull

like i'm not a big fan of 5cp but after playing hydro i appreciate having intermediary points before the base

[cursive peak]

It's all the points per round. It's just 2 per mini round.

[radiant merlin]

i wonder how that flashpoint gamemode from ow2 will play

it sounds like 5cp but random?

[spare obsidian]

this is what i yave found in ky archives

[formal dew]

tf2 accept a heavy taunt that doesn't involve him flexing

[summer steeple]

how does it work?

[small siren]

*tf2 accept

a heavy taunt that doesn't

involve him flexing*

- borealis64

[formal dew]

challenge impossible

[spare obsidian]

tbh lets see what someone does with TC

[formal dew]

the only other tc map i'm aware of offhand was a dino fossil one from like 2008

[summer steeple]

i mean i think there's a few community TC maps

there are 27 on tf2maps lmao

its not looking good

[cursive peak]

Why make a TC map when 5CP exists?

[summer steeple]

experimenting

it actually looks like a lot of these were from a contest

so that explains a bit

[cursive peak]

It's like experimenting with driving nails through your dick.

[formal dew]

if they're adding old ass maps i'd like haarp

summer 2024 🤞

[cursive peak]

Haarp is awful.

[summer steeple]

the only good thing to come out of TC is TCDOM

[formal dew]

looks pretty tho

admittedly have not played it

so i'll take your word for it

[summer steeple]

which is just dom but the spawnpoints are based off of what points you have capped

[small siren]

*which is just dom but

the spawnpoints are based off of

what points you have capped*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

no different maps, or sections

just dom but with spawn changes

[cursive peak]

Haarp is like A/D but you have to take a flag with you.

[formal dew]

good for them tbh

[spare obsidian]

tbh I think se should start be reviving old dead game modes

[cursive peak]

There might be a cast of Haarp from UGC Highlander.

https://youtu.be/8cpY0sQ5PjI

[kind falcon]

wow. literally me

[summer steeple]

MUST SEE!

[serene yarrow]

fiend post update waiting room

oh nvm I didnt realize it was over half an hour ago

[summer steeple]

there's really not a lot that was undocumented

in either the update or the hotfix

[serene yarrow]

😭

[cursive peak]

I think that was the same summer season as Canalzone.

[serene yarrow]

I appreciate you either way

[summer steeple]

if anything coms did my job for me

[serene yarrow]

I didn't see it

[summer steeple]

i think the only real thing they didn't document is that they patched out skial's 64 player server thing

which skial bypassed in an hour

[serene yarrow]

lmfao

playing with fire

I like it

[formal dew]

64 player servers are too confusing for new players

[cursive peak]

https://youtu.be/E32isY3Rmoo

[lean cove]

but why

[formal dew]

I want him to play yahtzee

Yahtzee taunt only for heavy

Most heavy taunts and heavy variants of all class taunts involve him flexing

[distant mango]

They should just disallow it on the client.

[jagged pawn]

found a tiermaker https://tiermaker.com/create/tf2-summer-update-maps-1288225

[kind falcon]

get real

[jagged pawn]

venice hater 🤝

[kind falcon]

no

its just nothing to put into f

[jagged pawn]

sulfur and sharkbay bottom 3 is crazy to me

[kind falcon]

so i put venice in

sulfur is s tier if you afk outside one of the points in one of the screenshots i sent

see this

[jagged pawn]

lol

[jagged pawn]

lmao https://clips.twitch.tv/AnimatedYawningRatGOWSkull-VpsGgTIKAjDrdYP9

[kind falcon]

most 2009 map ever

[jagged pawn]

fr

[wild grove]

guess you can't sticky that particular rock

[tacit flare]

So, where are all the community fixes?

[jagged pawn]

here

[tacit flare]

I mean, all the other ones.

[jagged pawn]

you're right they should throw in literally every workshop submission, what could possibly go wrong

(they commented that they didn't add much from workshop because they had to spend so much time on vsh)

[tacit flare]

They seem to be doing that already with maps and warpaints, why not fixes?

[jagged pawn]

because it's what leads to cash spawn entry and vsh not being functional

quality > quantity

[tacit flare]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-laughing-hysterically-gif-26398146

// Yes, this will cause a memory leak. Too bad.

[wild grove]

vsh ended up being unfunctional but that is less on the mode itself and more so on casual for some reason.

[left sand]

96th to 14th top sellers in 1 day

beating GTA V

[formal dew]

How do they collate sales for f2p games

Money or purchase numbers

[left sand]

its all money

for all games

[glass musk]

yes

they should have

[left sand]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/3292716368966457383

[left sand]

the only thing i see could be part of the fixes are like:

criticalflaw's hud fixes
rab's text fixes
neodement's kill icons (some of them)
pyroland fix
weapon models fix pack which seems to just be some clear bugs (though i dont agree with some of the changes which could be considered subjective)
the spy revolvers fixes (though these are super like scuffed fixes and pretty inane imo)
minigun casing improve (but the bullets are subjectively not good, maybe valve was going for some sort of readability at a distance with a specific color profile, but idk
degreaser crit sound fix
skybox mipmap fix
some of the surface prop / decal fixes
smoothing group fixes for the weapons
clamped lightwarp (maybe, idk)
prop model fixes
bloodless styles
pyro hose fix (if it's implemented well)
bird man stretch fix (if it's implemented well)
stairs railing lod fix
conscientious objector fix (minor)
loose cannon spark fix (minor)
minigun sound loop fixes
mvm hud fixes

what id like there to be in the fixes (but they will never do because of economy and it being highly subjective what is "good"):

unu/sparkles fix
war paint fixes

and gordbort weapon fixes (though valve doesnt have the rights afaik for those and also they look fine unless you specifically call out the issues for no reason, obviously they reached whatever visual goal they were going for)

then there's useless shit like:

making the australium weapons slightly less gold???
adding class emblems that look like ass
making spy masks look terrible
making class images be unstylized and super weird looking hyper realistic SFM shit
some useless fucking mockups of redoing the entire UI and making community browser whatever and it all looks like shit
giving each rocket a unique model so that the game is just an unreadable mess (information overload)
making each weapon look categorically worse to make it more realistic looking
weird random cosmetics getting fixed for like one minor thing who no one noticed or cares about
making the world models and viewmodels match for no reason even though the viewmodels were intentionally designed
weird gameplay suggestions that dont make sense and will never be added
class texture reworks which just add unnecessary visual noise and detail and make a whole bunch of subjective changes
making the uber textures look worse in a lot of cases
making all the grenade launchers look comically out of place to be """accurate""" to the clip size
adding terrible looking lods for no reason
particle fixes which just ruin the point of the particles

90% of the workshop fixes are useless

[radiant merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-gif-26415220

[proper tangle]

Any way to send team comtress fixes like the audio stuff through the workshop?

[radiant merlin]

email them to valve/eric

[proper tangle]

really wish the game would run as smooth as tc2

[radiant merlin]

really wish tf2 had csm

[hoary geyser]

so are the vsh maps just not in casual?

[radiant merlin]

ye

[unborn pecan]

What is csm?

[formal dew]

CSGO shadows

[slender nexus]

counter strike mshadows

[next nymph]

csm nutz

||cascaded shadow maps||

[cursive peak]

Can we get it to 300k?

[formal dew]

Maybe if there was a steam banner

[cursive peak]

Also, inb4 "250k of those were bots." daed gaem

[next nymph]

valve ran a botfarm to pump up tf2's stats, have you ever met a tf2 player before?

[slender nexus]

I've never seen two TF2 players in the same room

[unborn pecan]

I have

[slender nexus]

really? 🧐

[unborn pecan]

Yes

I had to fly over 2.6k miles

[formal dew]

there could be a tf2 player among any of us

they could be you

They could be me

They could even be-

[unborn pecan]

Me af

[cursive peak]

There were 9 of us between two hotel rooms at Bronycon 2016.

And I had a lunch date with another Pyro main once.

[left sand]

ive still got it

[proper tangle]

that mcoms is a spy

bob out here being second on the scoreboard as a sniper with 3 digit ping btw

[slender nexus]

le spio

[proper tangle]

more than double their first place kek

[next nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-happy-easter-disaster-april-fools-day-fluffy-gif-11463156

[spare obsidian]

scout

[proper tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-punch-murder-markipunch-doom-gif-22412827

[glass musk]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2994800875&searchtext=

or this shit

I like the current badges

[spare obsidian]

hi

[glass musk]

what

[slender nexus]

sillies

[radiant merlin]

idk why but this is so funny to me

[spare obsidian]

the bot soldier after not surviving

[radiant merlin]

why?

[orchid sorrel]

Hud reloadscheme fixes that

[formal dew]

What if the Halloween 2022 case and key are the last original valve assets well ever get

[orchid sorrel]

Optimistic

No wait i misread as 2023

Very likely then

[formal dew]

Somehow a modeler was available then and not now

[radiant merlin]

god has been fixed

in tf2

[formal dew]

🙏

[orchid sorrel]

They took his balls

No…

[formal dew]

Balless god

[unborn pecan]

FINALLY

[left sand]

when!

[radiant merlin]

idk but now it works

probably in the first patch

[unborn pecan]

😭 Fucking finally

[radiant merlin]

someone else test pls

[spare obsidian]

yeah it works

[unborn pecan]

@left sand Mastercoms if I have some additional tips for linux customization on the mastercom docs, where can I put them?

[radiant merlin]

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/4106

comment here so it can be closed

[left sand]

in the docs for os optimizations

[jagged pawn]

wild how much got changed https://youtu.be/KivkCCkdzjQ

all good changes tho

[spare obsidian]

what was change layout wise?

[jagged pawn]

watch short video

[spare obsidian]

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/5035 i've also post this

i though everyone knows this... i don't think sigvs even know it? lol

[small siren]

*i though everyone

this... i don't think sigvs even

know it? lol*

- Brodspy

[spare obsidian]

also i was literally a dummy fixing the HHH model thinking that it was that but nope lol

[radiant merlin]

comp players hate the changes it seems

[jagged pawn]

comp players don't have brains so that's ok

this literally just removes some weird pointless problems

[spare obsidian]

comp players hates changes

that explains why

[radiant merlin]

valve didn't disable this shadow lol

[jagged pawn]

like getting sealed into spawn while trying to push B is obviously stupid

[spare obsidian]

it looks nice tbh

[radiant merlin]

it looks wrong

because it's casting the sun's shadow

[spare obsidian]

oh 💀

[radiant merlin]

but it is in an interior

[fleet kite]

Did they fix VSH yet

[summer steeple]

no

[radiant merlin]

star playing tf2

[summer steeple]

what da heck

i know a while ago he changed the tf2 command in his chat to say that "if he plays he will be swarmed by his biggest fans who want to be seen more than play the game"

[left sand]

https://www.twitch.tv/ster

[limpid panther]

he's playing TF2?

coo

l

[glass musk]

@left sand do you know this error?

and why it would happen

[summer steeple]

how much do you want to bet that r/tf2 is freaking out because he's playing tf2 and is like "OH MY GOD HES GONNA COME BACK AND MAKE NEW VIDEOS" when in reality he probably was like "oh there's a new non-event update, i'll stream that like once"

[wild grove]

do you think much of r/tf2 even know who jerma or ster are anymore?

I mean jerma does his own stuff

[summer steeple]

hm good point

yeah jerma made a name for himself outside of tf2

so i think most of his fans now were not fans during the tf2 days

but ster didn't really get massive like jerma did

[limpid panther]

https://discord.com/channels/389089828249010188/958581537408946256

[formal dew]

I can play tf2 in about 2 hours

Legislative hearing about over

[left sand]

tf2 is now the 8th highest revenue game on steam

[left sand]

in the US it's 5th

[jagged pawn]

lmfao the venice creators are in tyler's discord talking about how they hope people buy a lot of map stamps 😭😭😭

I truly hope they're serious about wanting to improve the map

[small siren]

*I truly hope they're

serious about wanting

to improve the map*

- grapevine

[jagged pawn]

up 84 god damn

[hoary geyser]

tf3 was just paid for

[formal dew]

Saxton hale beat everyone who doesn't play tf2 in Australia to death

[lean cove]

what does this even mean??

[limpid panther]

@jaunty token should be proud, their animation overhauls dominate the most downloaded mods on gamebanana to this day

absolute GOAT

the engineer building carry animation is a complete game changer

[paper sluice]

gone.

[potent wolf]

They finally did it!

[jagged pawn]

?

[jaunty token]

thanks

[heavy solar]

@jaunty token has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[jaunty token]

thanks bot

[wild maple]

https://youtu.be/eSha2sqD9aw

[kind falcon]

what am i looking at

[radiant merlin]

it happened again

[kind falcon]

what is this video Protolino

[jagged pawn]

lmfaoooooo

the map is definitely badly made but I still find it fun

[wild maple]

just a funny video showing visual inconsistencies and all with the map

[jagged pawn]

I have no idea why it's so green

[kind falcon]

made by a person that made how i feel about TF2 is changing

[wild maple]

this video is kinda good actually

it's more about art than about tf2

[left sand]

its a bad video

[kind falcon]

cashworks is good. no making fun of cashworks

[wild maple]

🐤

[kind falcon]

this is venice

🐔

this is cashworks

[cursive peak]

What kind of nitpicky crap even is that video?

[wild maple]

I counted all the couches on venice

[jagged pawn]

I love cashworks but it's definitely visually weird

[radiant merlin]

also is it true that bots cannot be kicked?

[wild grove]

I thought this video was like a wierdcore thing.

[kind falcon]

what

[kind falcon]

your pfp is like a weirdcore thing

[radiant merlin]

idk i saw it in a video

[wild grove]

So true!

[kind falcon]

which one

[radiant merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KewYV9CHUtM

[wild maple]

evil gaben

[radiant merlin]

"you cannot currently call a vote to kick this player"

[wild maple]

wait what

💀

[kind falcon]

wow what a weird language

[kind falcon]

kill delfy

[jagged pawn]

why do people still link delfy content

[radiant merlin]

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/3738

[kind falcon]

2021

been patched

hello?

hi ashe

even ch had it implemented at that time

[next nymph]

is dave the diver really 4th highest revenue on steam

[kind falcon]

Wow. I sure hope no one will publish a map to launder steam money through stamps.

[orchid sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885921140420263957/1129200878885273640/2023-07-13_15-59-48.mp4

[left sand]

i was dumbfounded

i never heard of it before

[summer steeple]

it kinda came out of nowhere and got really popular

[next nymph]

my fiancee's been playing it for probably two weeks now and really enjoys it

but i didnt know it was very popular

[summer steeple]

i have come to a realization

the missing texture windows on phoenix may not be missing textures for me

[small siren]

*the missing texture

windows on phoenix may not

be missing textures*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

but they just are completely invisible

which was extremely confusing because i was trying to shoot through them

and my rockets were exploding on nothing

[kind falcon]

why cant i search the messages in threads.

ok what is this map.

[summer steeple]

what map

[kind falcon]

on warmup the textures are missing

on round start they disappear

[summer steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[kind falcon]

i switched teams and theyre back

being missing

[left sand]

it has incredibly good ratings and stunning reviews

but i have literally never heard of it i didnt see any news about it

i wish i did

[kind falcon]

is there a certain trigger that causes them to appear.

[summer steeple]

epic waste of money

well worn

[kind falcon]

congrats fiend

[summer steeple]

hmmmm

the thing is I like the color and that is the thing thats most worn here

[small siren]

*the thing is I like

the color and that is the

thing thats most worn here*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

good news, I can get a better one off the market for pennies

[formal dew]

skin wear was so diabolical

[summer steeple]

yeah

[formal dew]

i never feel right with anything but fn

[summer steeple]

I like a bit of wear tbh

[formal dew]

which obviously was a psychological trick

[kind falcon]

pelican peak is so good ,. .,

[cursive peak]

Wear and tear makes it more realistic. These mercs have been fighting for years. They're not using brand new, scratch free stuff.

I have a complete set of Star Crossed weapons in strange, but none in factory new.

[summer steeple]

hmmmm

I do really like pacific peacemaker in general but idk if i like it for the loch-n-load

i'm not really looking for skinned versions of any other weapon rn

[formal dew]

hopefully those designs on the right are culturally appropriate

[kind falcon]

ermm..

[formal dew]

like how lego got sued over bionicle by a maori group

[summer steeple]

i think i'm gonna go for bomb carrier

looking at team serviced on some weapons rn

looks p nice on detonator

[formal dew]

gritty civic duty

[summer steeple]

ON THE FISH THE EYE IS PAINTED

[kind falcon]

robot fish

[summer steeple]

its like civic duty dark mode lmao

[formal dew]

lol nice

[summer steeple]

but i like it

its sleek

on some, usually rounder less detailed weapons

it looks nice

idk how i feel about thiso ne

[formal dew]

fire hydrant

[summer steeple]

powerjack is nice

shotguns also look p good too

[cursive peak]

I think with wear the Loose Cannon won't look so terrible.

[kind falcon]

uhhh

codec issue

[summer steeple]

tbh i think they look better with blu rather than red

did you encode in h265

because discord doesn't support that

[kind falcon]

no idea

hevc

[summer steeple]

i think you have to use h264

blu scattergun looks real nice imo

[cursive peak]

I'd like the Sky Stallion skin, but it's probably gonna end up too expensive.

[summer steeple]

battle scarred, honestly you're right

[kind falcon]

erm

[formal dew]

sus

[kind falcon]

whatever

oh

ive been changing the streaming setting on obs

wonderful

here.

will it load?

[summer steeple]

it loaded

[kind falcon]

good

[summer steeple]

sticky

[kind falcon]

why is venice located on such coordinates

[summer steeple]

honestly i think its just me but i really prefer how this looks on blue rather than red

[kind falcon]

whats up with that

[summer steeple]

like red is just eh for me

[summer steeple]

good.... question

[kind falcon]

has to do with the contrast

[formal dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337790132126089222/1129192121304363118/image.png

[summer steeple]

i think the red is too dark for me

[kind falcon]

💯

[formal dew]

i think this is why queuing plays a fake party chat sound

[summer steeple]

but on the soda popper it looks good

[kind falcon]

orange soda

fan ter

[summer steeple]

i think the wood and the metal barrel are the same as stock?

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cokeycola-fanter-spirte-gif-25071353

[summer steeple]

so thats maybe why it looks better?

[paper sluice]

true true

[summer steeple]

wood is but metal isn't

so idk

sniper rifle do be looking kinda sick tho

the blu rifle cap is nice

and the trigger

it really just depends on what is painted

which unfortunately can't really be controlled

cause you gotta just use the presets

[kind falcon]

check out saccharine striped ...

[formal dew]

do skin makers have to buy a copy of a weapon with those presets to see how it looks

[summer steeple]

yeah

[formal dew]

or does the backpack tool suffice

[summer steeple]

uhhhhh

actually that does work

but you can't see it ingame

unless you overwrite the base texture for the weapon

which i think there are tools for

but its just a massive pain in the ass

[kind falcon]

no discussion of

[left sand]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2982741922

[kind falcon]

NOOOO

[left sand]

optimized

[summer steeple]

bazaar bargain looks.. kinda sick

[summer steeple]

WHAT THE FUCK

[kind falcon]

that works

[left sand]

optimized

[kind falcon]

put that in comp asap

[left sand]

how did he optimize 21 maps

in like 1 month

also like why are people giving him praise for it

[kind falcon]

passionate

[formal dew]

probably abused some hammer tool

[left sand]

like they just see the word optimized

and they think its good

[summer steeple]

because people don't know how it works or what is done

for some reason they assume its fast to do and that valve just didn't do it because they're lazy

[jagged pawn]

I hate those maps so much lmao

[formal dew]

👍 valve add this please

barf

[kind falcon]

@unborn pecan

[jagged pawn]

they flood the workshop with half assed garbage and then I can't find anything good

[unborn pecan]

I see

[kind falcon]

⣿⡟⢸⣿⣿⣿⣄⠹⣷⠰⣤⣌⡙⢿⠏⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣸
⣿⡇⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⡧⠈⣀⣹⣿⣿⣦⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣿
⣿⡇⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣶⣶⣶⣶⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣿
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⡿⠿⠄⠻⡖⢰⡆⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⢸⡆⢹⠋⠁⠚⣿
⣷⡀⠲⣶⡇⢺⣷⡀⢀⡾⠿⣿⣷⣀⣀⣾⠇⣸⡿⠋⣰⣿
⣿⣿⢁⣦⣀⣡⣿⣿⡿⠿⠛⠻⠟⢻⣿⣥⣀⣽⣷⡌⢻⣿
⣿⣿⣬⣭⣌⡙⠛⠿⣷⣶⣾⣿⣿⣿⠛⢛⣀⣬⣥⣤⣼⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣄⠒⢶⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⡈⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⠐⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠘⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿

WOW! your pipes go through the boat at blu spawn on venice

you stand on a clipbrush.

[unborn pecan]

⣿⡟⢸⣿⣿⣿⣄⠹⣷⠰⣤⣌⡙⢿⠏⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣸
⣿⡇⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⡧⠈⣀⣹⣿⣿⣦⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣿
⣿⡇⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣶⣶⣶⣶⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣿
⣿⣇⢸⣿⡿⠿⠿⠿⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠟⠛⠛⢻⣿⣿⢁⣿
⡿⠿⠄⠻⡖⢰⡆⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⢸⡆⢹⠋⠁⠚⣿
⣷⡀⠲⣶⡇⢺⣷⡀⢀⡾⠿⣿⣷⣀⣀⣾⠇⣸⡿⠋⣰⣿
⣿⣿⢁⣦⣀⣡⣿⣿⡿⠿⠛⠻⠟⢻⣿⣥⣀⣽⣷⡌⢻⣿
⣿⣿⣬⣭⣌⡙⠛⠿⣷⣶⣾⣿⣿⣿⠛⢛⣀⣬⣥⣤⣼⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣄⠒⢶⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⡈⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⠐⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠘⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿

I hate vneice

[kind falcon]

@summer steeple hello my fiend

[formal dew]

sicilians be like

[slender nexus]

Italy

[kind falcon]

do you know what is this .

where is the summer category in casual

...

[summer steeple]

no i have no clue

i saw it earlier and its extremely confusing

its like 5 broken brushes in one

[kind falcon]

WHERE IS SUMMER

summer update never happened

[summer steeple]

its summer (featured)

[kind falcon]

i dont have summer featured in my game

[slender nexus]

epic

i don't like summer it's too hot here

[kind falcon]

texan

[summer steeple]

skill issue

[slender nexus]

jump from spring straight to fall

[formal dew]

ji art detected

[summer steeple]

skill issue

[kind falcon]

what file is responsible for that menu anyway

no

i downgraded my tf2 for

reasons

borealis what do you mean by that react

[formal dew]

idk

i already just did thinking

[summer steeple]

i think items_game like unironically

[kind falcon]

add fortnite to casual queue

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-clincher-chevelle-cyn-cat-gif-27045854

[left sand]

g_SummerEvent = true

items_game.txt

[kind falcon]

hacks

[left sand]

errrrm

no?

[kind falcon]

boar?

[left sand]

erm misinformation its g_Holiday_Summer

[kind falcon]

exactly

[paper sluice]

that self pin tho

[radiant merlin]

doot

ye updoot

[unborn pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/629800463440805898/1104760007981023303/BED703CB-7158-4FF7-983F-71DF0708D709.gif

[radiant merlin]

Fixed a bug where custom replacement materials in a map could persist to other maps

nice

[summer steeple]

oh hey they fixed the achievement dialog thing too

[paper sluice]

They messed up the formatting.,..

[serene yarrow]

fiend post update waiting room

[unborn pecan]

they fixed the missing windows

🙏

[summer steeple]

hmmmm

hmmmmmm

i assume this helped fix VSH but i wonder still

seems very... specific

[formal dew]

interesting

[summer steeple]

they did also add a new server command preset for custom gamemodes

mp_tournament disabled

unlike normal casual

[formal dew]

The fug

So no readying or pregame for vsh

[radiant merlin]

it fixes maps being on tournament mode after playing in casual i guess

[formal dew]

Wait

Mp time limit?

[radiant merlin]

map time limit?

[formal dew]

it should be meaningless with maxrounds

as all mm matches are round based

[serene yarrow]

vsh is still broken apparently

[formal dew]

exploding_hog.png

[radiant merlin]

bruh

[formal dew]

Holy fuck

[radiant merlin]

at least emitsoundex is now fixed

[unborn pecan]

wait

Is this like

For preloading stuff?

😭 please god no don't get rid of preloading

[formal dew]

it's for workshop maps

[radiant merlin]

i think it's related to this

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/4214

[summer steeple]

so VSH got removed again because the waiting for players timer never ended

at least its not server crashes?

[spare obsidian]

VSH of scrondiger

[jagged pawn]

jesus christ

[radiant merlin]

about the venice thing: the map can be updated. remember that when overpass came out everyone hated it until valve improved it and now it's a good map

[formal dew]

turning off tournament mode with no further stuff for casual didn't seem super stable to me

[glass musk]

that guy is still ''optimizing'' maps? 😭

I thought maybe he was finally done lol

god damn it

[left sand]

I feel so bad for whoever is working on TF2

it must be so frustrating to have to work through all of these issues

[glass musk]

this is a very pretty looking map https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3000349487

[left sand]

but is it optimized?

[jagged pawn]

hmmmm needs optimization imo

[proper tangle]

needs more frames

[limpid panther]

guys your frames are not supposed to be high

this is very painful for the silicon

rocks were not supposed to be doing math, it is very painful for them to do so

we should be minimizing their suffering, not maximizing it

[proper tangle]

I want them to suffer

In fact, I'll overclock

[slender nexus]

silly-con

[orchid sorrel]

This makes me sad 2fort invasion is basically unplayable

[unborn pecan]

Truuuue

[tacit flare]

Is the seal optimised?

[proper tangle]

They...

they literally added ladders to tf2

[glass musk]

what do you mean?

I just queued for it today and it was fine

kicked the attention seeking racist,transphobic player and it was fine 👍🏻

[orchid sorrel]

Every time i queue for 2fort invasion lobbies are either full of cheaters or just plain empty

[glass musk]

its better now

[orchid sorrel]

And abysmal queue times

[glass musk]

because people can vote for it now

with the new summer update

I saw it in the vote system once

which really surprised me

[orchid sorrel]

Oh yeah that must be why

Apparently thats unintentional

Lol

Well guess i should try queuing for it tonight

[unborn pecan]

@lean cove I am getting this weird steam bug. Everytime I reopen steam, Steam downloads the windows version of TF2 and starts it using proton, even when I have nothing set in the force compat section

::sob

😭

[orchid sorrel]

Cosmo wanda i wish alternative mode category went to hell no matter what

[kind falcon]

yuor computer is haunted with a certain virus called “linux”

[unborn pecan]

😭

[lean cove]

idk

[unborn pecan]

I think I fixed it?

I need to relaunch steam

[grim parcel]

it's a sign

[unborn pecan]

🤯

[left sand]

whaat???

[lean cove]

source engine ladders

where diagonal movement is faster than single direction

[proper tangle]

in Hardwood

there's an actual working ladder

[potent wolf]

wtf kill it with fire

[proper tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902544847553048606/1129481516062355618/Team_Fortress_2_2023.07.14_-_20.23.28.08.DVR.mp4

fuck, the embed doesnt work

[kind falcon]

sulfur has a model of a ladder thats very convenient looking

unfortunately no workey

[summer steeple]

it’s vscript ladder btw

not func_ladder

[formal dew]

lol

[proper tangle]

After 16 years, valve gave us ladder functionality

kek

[formal dew]

github moment

[proper tangle]

literally pay to win

you can still make the sentry shoot the air on some spots on specific maps

[kind falcon]

that would be really cool. unfortunately, sentries are aware of your existence on any point of the map

[paper sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSklooh0rKc

cool stuff

[kind falcon]

ctf

[glass musk]

@orchid sorrel I have been queued for 2fort invasion for 1 hour now

[formal dew]

add hydro and doomsday

[kind falcon]

simply queue degroot and await your 2fort invasion

[glass musk]

I'm in

nevermind

...

I queued for summer maps too

[grim parcel]

venice

[kind falcon]

erm. sent this before

[paper sluice]

all of saxtons partner taunts are awesome they're just taunt kills lmao

flip sends you flying

high five has him sock you

[summer steeple]

i didn't realize they were different

aside from RPS

i think RPS kills the loser

even if its hale

[paper sluice]

yeah RPS does work like normal

[kind falcon]

erm. vsh works?

[paper sluice]

idk i was looking a clips

it was prolly a community server with the vsh maps

[glass musk]

THE SEAL MAKES A SOUND 2 TIMES

IN TOTAL

I HAVE CONFIRMED THIS.

3

ITS 3

[lean cove]

penice

[potent wolf]

What everyone was thinking but noone was brave enough to say

[slender nexus]

🙃

just joined a casual server and got immediately votekicked by a spinbot and everyone just went along with it

while the vote ran someone said "kick the fa__ot" over the mic

[kind falcon]

etrm

wrong sticker

[kind falcon]

here you go

[slender nexus]

[wild grove]

Huh, something makes me think they aint trans.

I can't put my finger on it.

[formal dew]

rip vsh

[potent wolf]

Er, thats hikiko's steam profile...

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-serious-right-neow-are-you-serious-right-now-cat-cat-speed-fast-gif-26894786

[wild grove]

LMAO I thought it was the cheater's discord!

my bad

[unborn pecan]

half life hud go hgard

[kind falcon]

erm...

[unborn pecan]

:sobn

😭 21 to 1 kd in a casual server

[unborn pecan]

why erm

[kind falcon]

dnsens

[unborn pecan]

ermn

FALAESE

@lean cove tf2?

[lean cove]

im on my phone

[kind falcon]

tf2 mobile

[unborn pecan]

tf2 pubg version

[kind falcon]

@unborn pecan

quick

search for that cracked pubg mobile cat gif

[unborn pecan]

😭 okay

[kind falcon]

i go make dino nuggies for now

[unborn pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-play-pubg-gif-26066578

this is coldsnap rn

[kind falcon]

whos coldnsap. / ?

@coldsnap

[unborn pecan]

erm

.j.e.a.n.

[kind falcon]

@lean cove is this true. are you @coldsnap?

[radiant merlin]

anyone excited for 00:15 am patch?

[unborn pecan]

um

yes

[radiant merlin]

i have realized that the leaked assets may be from before mym

because the script that handles the engineer's hitboxes don't have the pelvis hitbox

and the spy has some missing bones that are present in the current model

[kind falcon]

what are you talking about.

[radiant merlin]

the leaked tf2 assets

[kind falcon]

The Valve repo leak is not allowed to be discussed or shared here.

baned

interesting nevertheless, ashe

[radiant merlin]

only distributing the content is forbidden

you silly

[kind falcon]

erm.

[unborn pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/646141048715870208/815743227230683136/ezgif-7-042e77fcab2d.gif

I HEAR DISCUSSION ABOUT LEAK

[formal dew]

plumbers be like

[unborn pecan]

🫡 It's a me, a mario

[unborn pecan]

😭 Is that VNN?

😡 VNN MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL GRRRRR

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546763235051700314/1120016547373654097/RDT_20230615_1354135767672543041768607.gif

[radiant merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-kicker-gif-26137308

[unborn pecan]

me kicking with the rage of a thousand suns

[kind falcon]

hello potasium eater

[unborn pecan]

hello cat integrator (ci)

[potent wolf]

#starboard🌟 message

WHAT

[kind falcon]

these reacts are dumb

[potent wolf]

You can starboard threads i guess

[kind falcon]

why is it there

i will now make it say something

[potent wolf]

...

[kind falcon]

what

do you like it?

[potent wolf]

Big cat 👍

[kind falcon]

i agre

[potent wolf]

!!!

More than one

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-for-bk-gif-25780630

[summer steeple]

guess who that frozen corpse floating in mid air is

(its me)

that ragdoll even stuck around, but actually ended up on the ground, so i was staring at my frozen ragdoll's face as i upgraded my dispenser

[kind falcon]

ice statues of july 2023

[unborn pecan]

This is a message from God

[wild grove]

What is your guy's opinions on secretly serviced, team serviced, mechanized monster, and sky stallion war paints being broken? Do you think you like the war paints in their current state?

[summer steeple]

whats broken about them?

[wild grove]

Both Team Serviced and Secretly Serviced are supposed to have a similar glowing effect to macaw masked.

[summer steeple]

oh like a metallic sheen

[wild grove]

in-game, they do not.

[summer steeple]

honestly i kinda liked the more matte style for team serviced

but i don't mind the metallic look

looks like it might make the red look better too

cause i know i don't really like how the red looks rn

secretly serviced i think is a straight upgade with the metallic sheen

[wild grove]

they do not have the self-illuminating metallic sheen

in-game

[summer steeple]

yeah

i'm saying that while i kinda like the matte look for team serviced i think they would both look better if fixed

[wild grove]

yes, of course, VALVe has been doing this thing since after jungle inferno, starting with winter 2017

[summer steeple]

have they not fixed most of the broken war paints?

[wild grove]

nope, all of the warpaints they messed with and broke has never been fixed.

[summer steeple]

have the war paint artists.... emailed eric?

[wild grove]

yes

[summer steeple]

he tends to get things fixed quickly

[wild grove]

the author of ghoul blaster basically had to fight to have the submission be nearly 1:1 in-game

[summer steeple]

hm

[wild grove]

the war paint is missing the glowing metallic sheen and custom blood seen on the promos for the war paint submission.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853114348

look for yourself

the issue is that VALVe doesn't care because players do not care. They said to the author of ghoul blaster that they couldn't change things to be 1:1 because people might like the broken version more than the fixed but do they really?

[summer steeple]

its just odd

valve usually doesn't give a shit when mappers or cosmetics makers update their stuff

[wild grove]

it is fucked up

[summer steeple]

why are war paints any different?

[wild grove]

exactly

War paint creators get the bitter end of the stick while the other creators who make other forms of content are not treated like war paint creators.

an early example of VALVe screwing war paint creators was neo tokyo

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1181014287

neo tokyo was supposed to have the glowing metallic effect + orientation lock.

[summer steeple]

this really just seems to be an issue partly with how war paints have to be packaged

aka, just raw textures

[orchid sorrel]

spectral shimmered was also screwed up

[wild grove]

biggest example ever of the VALVe screwup is Spectral Shimmered.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1187229809

[small siren]

*biggest example

ever of the VALVe screwup

is Spectral Shimmered.*

- woshee

[wild grove]

that is not an issue.

War paint creators, especially modern day, are extremely clear on how to implement the war paint proper.

instructions are included in the readme.

[summer steeple]

yeah, but valve clearly is ignoring that

[wild grove]

they are.