you CANNOT say the spy sounds ok
#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year
left sand
unborn pecan
I am not saying the spy sounds okay
wild maple
remove the voice lines from the game
unborn pecan
I am just saying AI ain't the answer
I FINALLY GOT INTO A MATCH
I bet you the tf2 coordinater server is shitting itself rn
next nymph
based soda popinski
radiant merlin
what voices?
kind falcon
wow. seal
spare obsidian
seal :3
kind falcon
I want that as a plush
unborn pecan
me af
kind falcon
me omw to eat some buckets
microplastics
unborn pecan
tasty
left sand
kind falcon
croc
spare obsidian
croc
left sand
left sand
VAC live
spare obsidian
speculation™️
summer steeple
func_croc allows for custom kill icons now
left sand
yes
next nymph
👀
summer steeple
apparently trigger_hurt was also supposed to get that functionality in this update
spare obsidian
how is kill icons gonna be handled now?
summer steeple
(delayerd probably)
radiant merlin
till the halloween update
spare obsidian
i don't think there's mapname_mod_textures.txt file
spare obsidian
:I
kind falcon
whos excited?
spare obsidian
chill
next nymph
my money is on today
radiant merlin
valve better patch that shit up
spare obsidian
i mean crashes are obv a priority
radiant merlin
because i won't play anyways since i have to study
kind falcon
vsh grind
next nymph
"whoops, we accidentally didn't release the entire update, sorry!"
formal dew
my condolences to the 200 workshop fix contributors
crisp cedar
im gonna play dota anyways
small sirenBOT
crisp cedar
looks fun have fun
formal dew
jelly
spare obsidian
im gonna play dota anyways
hey i have a excuse now
spare obsidian
btw please post any issues in the github tracker
small sirenBOT
crisp cedar
FUCK my vegas pro is not responding
summer steeple
valve promises they read the github issue tracker
spare obsidian
valve promises they read the github issue tracker
i mean not reporting the issue doesn't help either so
🤷♂️
its like a vicius cycle
kind falcon
https://github.com/jeffhill/Dota2 ?
so true..
spare obsidian
eww dota /j
kind falcon
You're in over your head.
spare obsidian
nuh uh
crisp cedar
What you see is what gets you.
left sand
kind falcon
More friends!
spare obsidian
its over guys, tf2 is alive temporaly 😔
next nymph
take that Rust and GTA5
kind falcon
sweep.. sweep. sweep.. sweep...
spare obsidian
the community fixes where are they? lol
left sand
VSH crashes are being investigated
spare obsidian
the blog post state community fixes lol
summer steeple
trolled
spare obsidian
the only community fixes i see are 4
spare obsidian
wdym trolled are like
radiant merlin
the only community fixes i see are 4
which?
spare obsidian
down?
next nymph
tf2 SWEEP
at this pace we'll be the first game with 1 billion concurrent players in only a few days
left sand
the blog post replaces "who knows what else??" with "other community contributed fixes"
so really
who knows
spare obsidian
left sand
who knows what else because theres nothing 
unborn pecan
😭 somebody on the other team is named Lizzo's Face Chair
crisp cedar
the only reason im going to trust valve to release a followup update is because if they don't i won't be disappointed anyways
left sand
😭 somebody on the other team is named Lizzo's Face Chair
pog
crisp cedar
they did promise something above average but still average
kind falcon
erm. is funny
crisp cedar
but if they dont release more...well...i dont play tf2 anyways
spare obsidian
what new tf2 players sees before leaving
tacit flare
So.. has anyone dug deep into the update to find what Valve hasn't publically added to the changelog yet?
kind falcon
what new tf2 players sees before leaving
tacit flare
Cause it feels like there's more that's happened than it seems
left sand
So.. has anyone dug deep into the update to find what Valve hasn't publically ad...
i did
left sand
Cause it feels like there's more that's happened than it seems
nope
unborn pecan
I bet you guys right now VNN is creaming his pants over this update
next nymph
like this one?
because that one is from 2019 and does not reflect the current update
spare obsidian
I bet you guys right now VNN is creaming his pants over this update
i mean VNN was right that if the community does what the community does we would never get this type of updates again so
i guess he's right now?
unborn pecan
I don't listen or watch VNN
I just know he is the kind of guy to cream over a tf2 update
spare obsidian
what do you watch mr microwave
left sand
So.. has anyone dug deep into the update to find what Valve hasn't publically ad...
the undocumented changes:
- war paint case
- croc entity now supports sharks and custom kill icons
- VSH crashes the casual servers
- 64 player servers are now blocked, you can't have more than 32.
- some HUD security fixes
- seal
- doors changed on cp_steel
summer steeple
what do you watch mr microwave
funke
spare obsidian
why are 64 servers blocked?
spare obsidian
also isn't like the 64 block would be easy bypassable lol
kind falcon
maybe
spare obsidian
literally there's like a plugin for mvm that allows to have more players in a match
lol
next nymph
isnt the point of the block to counteract that plugin
kind falcon
why would they do that
left sand
the engine blocks entindex higher than expected for players
unborn pecan
https://tenor.com/view/sauce-ice-cream-man-gif-13614032
Fr
left sand
because it causes instability
crisp cedar
shut up guys dota just got a 2.47 mb update
spare obsidian
ok
kind falcon
shut up guys dota just got a 2.47 mb update
so hyped ..
paper sluice
Dota players when I tear out their ligaments
crisp cedar
i have no idea what this means.
spare obsidian
dota 2 players are wet rn over a 2.47mb updates 😱
spare obsidian
when uhh
tf2 players when they don't like a map maker (i swear guys it isn't harrastment its just free speech!!!)
left sand
kind falcon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/202858443730714624/1128809261510692954/...
I know where you live, Tidehunter!
spare obsidian
that's because vscript isn't enable by default on casual servers
fleet kite
does that actually crash the server tho
fleet kite
lmao valve spaghetti
fleet kite
I mean it shouldnt crash the server 
spare obsidian
i think its more of a oversigth since they did it to prevent what L4D2 players has to suffer
"easy script kiddies on servers"
fleet kite
not blaming the gamemode
crisp cedar
shut up guys dota just got a 2.47 mb update
ok so thats what that was
unborn pecan
lol
fleet kite
valve what are you doing over der 😭
kind falcon
ok so thats what that was
thats awesome
crisp cedar
WHAT THE FUCK
craggy ridge
VSH crashes are being investigated
My game is crashing with anything bruhhh
crisp cedar
this actually sucks man
i was literally right about to queue
i cant play without chat
craggy ridge
I loades into upward
crisp cedar
fuck no
craggy ridge
And ir crashes
spare obsidian
WHAT THE FUCK
finally dota 2 is bearable now
fleet kite
thank good r/tf2 is gone
spare obsidian
oh god 💀
radiant merlin
"easy script kiddies on servers"
don't mutations work with vscript?
orchid sorrel
fucking item servers
kind falcon
i cant play without chat
how come
crisp cedar
i need to talk.
fleet kite
He needs to v e n t
left sand
wild maple
@left sand it was just grey mann voice you trolled me 💢
kind falcon
grey men
rare creek
the gamer army has unleashed
i think they might of released it early by accident lol
probably meant to send it out tomorrow or a little later
small sirenBOT
rare creek
there's not even a blog post
wild maple
what's the map with the seal
kind falcon
what's the map with the seal
selbyen
kind falcon
there's not even a blog post
what
wild maple
thank you
crisp tangle
Did valve just deactive queuing for VSH?
crisp cedar
ok so thats what that was
they just fixed it pog
left sand
spare obsidian
can I see examples of the gamer rage
i could but uhh rules 💀
next nymph
https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/14y2l6a/scouts_new_voice_lines/
<@1911379...
is the echo builtin or because of an effect or something
wild maple
is it grey too
spare obsidian
but basically because no new weapons == bad update
slender nexus
i could but uhh rules 💀
send it to my dms ☠️
slender nexus
but basically because no new weapons == bad update
reddit's 1984
kind falcon
the tf2 blog
its on the blog .
summer steeple
low fps for me unfortunately
spare obsidian
like, i know this update is not that great
but the fact we have it is
like a nice thing too since we're not tied to a theme
summer steeple
sulfur is an interesting concept which is essentially hybrid steel-type koth, I can't get a real good impression of it rn because people don't know how to play it or where to go
spare obsidian
unlike xmass or halloween
kind falcon
sulfur is an interesting concept which is essentially hybrid steel-type koth, I ...
sulfur is chaotic but fun
pelican peak just looks pretty
wild maple
I wish they added extinction 😢
slender nexus
but it suffers from a problem i like to call 5cpitis
2 dogs playing tug of war
powerhouse moment
left sand
low fps for me unfortunately
does it have water
mastercomfig reduced fps on all water maps
kind falcon
mastercomfig reduced fps on all water maps <:trollfig:938154442484777111>
wow. nice
slender nexus
DOES IT HAVE SNAKES?
spare obsidian
also @slender nexus @summer steeple @radiant merlin should i make a github issue about suggesting to valve to use the testing steamddb to test updates?
kind falcon
what are these pings
spare obsidian
epic pings,,,
next nymph
this sounds kinda mean but I'm genuinely curious: does valve have a qa team or qa contractors
left sand
@spare obsidian they do that
spare obsidian
iirc yes
spare obsidian
i feel this update was accidentaly pushed lol but that's my feeling
slender nexus
waiting for tomorrow when the news reports someone made a bomb threat at valve because the summer update wasnt 10x the size of the Uber update
next nymph
oh no I know, this just seems like a lot of stuff at once though
rare creek
its on the blog .
kind falcon
erm. its a summer update. not a giga update
left sand
kind falcon
click update for update
rare creek
the blog is different to the updates tab
kind falcon
gg.
spare obsidian
waiting for tomorrow when the news reports someone made a bomb threat at valve b...
knowing how the community is, i can bet it could be unironically true someone does this 💀
kind falcon
vacation
spare obsidian
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337790132126089222/1128820787239997620/20...
why he t-pose,,,,,
rare creek
knowing valve it'll take them a week to fix all these bugs and push whatever other features they may have intended idk
summer steeple
does it have water
yes
left sand
oh then itll be even worse exblode
radiant merlin
valve could also disabled chat restrictions in this updoot
kind falcon
oh then itll be even worse exblode
erm.. whats exblode
lean cove
i didnt recognize this was steel lol
summer steeple
valve could also disabled chat restrictions in this updoot
really?!
lean cove
pyrovision brain damage
lean cove
im installing this
paper sluice
im installing this
Thank you for your service
wild grove
knowing valve it'll take them a week to fix all these bugs and push whatever oth...
They already took down the VSH maps to look and fix issues.
small sirenBOT
wild grove
Anyone excited for the hotfix tomorrow?!
kind falcon
today
summer steeple
could be today even
kind falcon
depends on the time zone.
rare creek
the fix is hot
left sand
the problem is so weird
radiant merlin
if valve allows vscript in casual get prepared for cheaters speedhacking
small sirenBOT
radiant merlin
l4d2's tank run is full of cheaters
and tank run is a vscript gamemode
that's why community servers run smac or lite
wild grove
I find it funny imagining someone cheating vsh
orchid sorrel
people cheat in bootcamp mvm
wild grove
like spinning saxton.
kind falcon
like spinning saxton.
like a saxton that punches you with extended reach
wild grove
people cheat in bootcamp mvm
eh, iffy about that since it is a pve gamemode.
orchid sorrel
my point was that if people are willing to cheat there, they'll cheat in vsh
but also no being pve doesnt justify cheating
wild grove
Ofc it doesn't, it's just that I won't be super angry if I see one.
left sand
i think the bots had it coming to them
formal dew
everyone transforms into a muscular australian man when they enter the afterlife
slender nexus
the fix is hot
fix is hot
hot hot leg
leg so hot
u fry an egg
lean cove
2fort is an opium map
left sand
2fort is an opium map
what do you mean by that
kind falcon
what do you mean by that
moderator loves 2fort
slender nexus
what do you mean by that
engineer is secretly growing opium poppies behind the 2fort cow
kind falcon
2fort cow is trojan horse
unborn pecan
based
summer steeple
it is in fact back
still broken god damn it
i guess they pushed a change in the hope that it would work
but it didn't
left sand
the lift
jagged pawn
yeah hightower but one team actually is on a timer lol
small sirenBOT
jagged pawn
what
summer steeple
like i've won that map multiple times
jagged pawn
you understand that after the round ends the teams swap right lol
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
yeah
jagged pawn
I was literally just taunting at the top of the hill for half the game and we won, against a team that easily beat us when they were on defense
like I have a small sample size but that was not a close match in either direction
summer steeple
well thats your experience
jagged pawn
oh my GOD hardwood is beautiful
summer steeple
and mine is that i've won on attack
kind falcon
i like the rooftops on last
summer steeple
and watched other people win on attack
next nymph
I was literally just taunting at the top of the hill for half the game and we wo...
that is how pro u are
you win by taunkills
jagged pawn
pootis pow
WAIT I JUST REALIZED THEY REUSED THE JUNGLE INFERNO EVENT AND FORGOT TO REMOVE THE JI MAPS FROM THE VOTE LIST LMAO THE MAP VOTE I GOT HAD MERC PARK IN IT
kind falcon
hoary geyser
heavy update confirmed
jagged pawn
I'm halfway through, ranking so far
Selbyen
Sulfur
Hardwood
Phoenix
Pelican Peak
hoary geyser
i haven't played any yet 😎
jagged pawn
pelican peak is probably the best ctf map in the game
which is why it's the worst map of the update lmfao
not a whole lot it could've done to make me like it
cursive peak
inb4 someone says those player numbers are all lies and the real count is like 5k.
kind falcon
pelican peak is probably the best ctf map in the game
erm
can you make a second ranking where you rank just the looks
thank you
jagged pawn
hardwood and phoenix would both move up two spots probably
kind falcon
wow. i block you
jagged pawn
honestly all the maps I've played so far look great
kind falcon
do you like the missing textures on phoenix
jagged pawn
I did not see any
kind falcon
how
jagged pawn
I've heard there were missing textures on venice
I think?
but yeah didn't see anything wrong w phoenix
kind falcon
the only map i had missing textures on was phoenix
jagged pawn
skill issue
jagged pawn
haven't played eyt
summer steeple
uhhh, it might use a rope entity
which could be hidden by your performance config (if you have one)
yeah it does
kind falcon
which could be hidden by your performance config (if you have one)
yes. it’s called mastercomfig
ever heard of it?
kind falcon
anyway the missing textures are midway b to c
summer steeple
I don't get them, which is odd
kind falcon
erm. show proof?
hoary geyser
ok time to try out the new maps at 165hz 😎
kind falcon
ok time to try out the new maps at 165hz 😎
what is your central processihh my unit
i need to know that information
hoary geyser
7700x
summer steeple
you can play selbyen at.... 2 fps
jk it'll prob be fine
i was getting kinda low fps for me at like 70 but i'm on an i7-7700k
summer steeple
I also didn't have the latest comfig with the water changes
small sirenBOT
jagged pawn
the only map that dropped frames for me was sulfur but that's because freyja has never optimized a map before
summer steeple
yes
jagged pawn
he sounds squishy when he moves
hoary geyser
ok time to try out the new maps at 165hz 😎
it feels smoother (because of course it does) 👍
summer steeple
but yeah, i just took a second look at sulfur
and it runs fine for me
vis looks good, has areaportals
granted i was in an empty map with no players
but i don't remember having fps issues on it the few times i played it
it even has expensive water in a few places
so thats surprising
cause maps don't tend to use them
jagged pawn
interesting
summer steeple
at the very least i know the little pool in blu spawn has real time reflections
idk if the bigger pools do
but prob not
plus the water is so bubbly and noisy it'd be kinda hard to tell if they did
left sand
its actually good
the mercs are kinda scuffed though
but gray and saxton are really good
hoary geyser
great reflections
left sand
great reflections
new mastercomfig?
hoary geyser
yeah
glass musk
@left sand why are we the only ones with the water flickering
small sirenBOT
hoary geyser
coms you are ruining my tf2 venice experience
i will now have to switch to vnnconfig
summer steeple
<@115180582845153282> why are we the only ones with the water flickering
i believe this is an issue with fast_fogvolume 1? which has been removed on the dev branch of comfig but is not on the release version yet
so you could try fast_fogvolume 0
summer steeple
o
radiant merlin
valve when the funny compiler is broken in their end
left sand
summer steeple
yeah i think its a valve issue because like
cashworks has been fine for literally 14 years
summer steeple
now valve will have to release the heavy update
radiant merlin
cmon valve at least a blog post
hoary geyser
tf2 canceled
left sand
we have now surpassed the dota 2 beta player count in 2013
summer steeple
delayed to 2024
grave badge
real?
summer steeple
by july 2024 it will have been delayed to 2025
left sand
so sad no tc2 in tf2
patience...
grave badge
pog
spare obsidian
patience doesn't seem to be a thing anymore for tf2 players 😔
spare obsidian
yep
summer steeple
https://youtu.be/3CRE0RvIjMg
"that was a grate" -sponkbab
grim parcel
man my 190k bots are really putting in the work rn
slender nexus
"that was a grate" -sponkbab
THEY DID SURGERY ON A GRAPE
summer steeple
honestly, I am super satisfied with this update
good maps, good cosmetics
haven't taken a look at unusuals yet
warpaints are pretty simple and laid back, nothing super standout, but thats not necessarily a bad thing and i don't blame valve for trying to play it safe
slender nexus
kinda disappointed they didn't push at least some of the TC2 fixes
summer steeple
yeah, but from all the things i've been hearing, i'm really getting the vibe that valve was spending a lot of time making sure the shit they did add was functioning
and the stuff that isn't functioning (VSH) is not really the kind of thing you easily test
because it seems to be an issue with casual and the game coordinator itself
rather than the gamemode or map
unborn pecan
Anyone wanna play tf2? @lean cove @left sand @teal sand @summer steeple ?
summer steeple
not rn unfortunately
I want to be at least a bit productive today
tf2 update threw me off so much
teal sand
Anyone wanna play tf2? <@310513933763215361> <@115180582845153282> <@34705780770...
naur
unborn pecan
😭 another rejection
teal sand
yep
summer steeple
i'm sorry :(
unborn pecan
I will be in cafe voice by my self 😔
slender nexus
unborn pecan
I think there are some community servers up running the new versus saxton hail maps
summer steeple
there are
unborn pecan
swag
summer steeple
also some other things i've heard regarding the behind the scenes of this update
unborn pecan
Watch as skial makes a 24/7 version of it
slender nexus
I'll be on in a bit
unborn pecan
swag
summer steeple
one map refused to compile on valve's end for like 2 weeks due to a weird VRAD bug with intel CPUs
slender nexus
summer steeple
I think I also saw someone say they delayed the update at least a few weeks
unborn pecan
one map refused to compile on valve's end for like 2 weeks due to a weird VRAD b...
Valve uses intel cpus for their servers 😭
aren
aren't they like AMD fanatics?
summer steeple
idk maybe they were using them for buildbots
slender nexus
Yes but iirc they probably haven't upgraded
slender nexus
Or they buy premade blade servers
unborn pecan
😭 WHY I AM SO TERRIBLE
lean cove
later
kind falcon
https://vxtwitter.com/FACEITTF2/status/1679275362579103744
who runs this account
i forgor
paper sluice
shork
grim parcel
https://vxtwitter.com/FACEITTF2/status/1679275362579103744
the one thing more dead than tf2 itself
not the seal though
i love the seal
unborn pecan
The tf2 faceit twitter account is apparently popular
left sand
faceit was gonna replace everything
unborn pecan
because of the memes
unborn pecan
faceit was gonna replace everything
what does replace everything mean?
left sand
how it was gonna kill casual, uncletopia, etc
grim parcel
i remember being pretty excited for it
kind falcon
god I love faceit team fortress two it’s so awesome
grim parcel
but ngl using a separate website was annoying
unborn pecan
I wasn't excited for it cause it was faceit
left sand
so it requires anti cheat now
left sand
yes if you played on linux in like 2017
summer steeple
yeah they wanted to have a ridiculous valorant level anti-cheat
kind falcon
And it doesn't work on linux?
summer steeple
for tf2
left sand
for casual
unborn pecan
https://tenor.com/view/killer-cat-cat-knife-ruocgiff-gif-24035655
me
left sand
yeah and its valorant level
summer steeple
you had to disable hyper-v
left sand
kernel hack
unborn pecan
I still think valorant level anti-cheat is overkill
and people still cheat in that game
summer steeple
like people had to disable shit they use for their jobs to play faceit
kind falcon
good thing i exploded valorant
unborn pecan
https://tenor.com/view/rat-groovy-gif-26309290
me af
grim parcel
u just liked faceit because no bots
grim parcel
and i hadn’t been on uncletopia yet (was that even open back then or just not as big? i forgor)
kind falcon
no linux = no bots
wow. this is like.. what skial done. or whatever
summer steeple
clueless
grim parcel
no linux = no bots
so true mcoms
unborn pecan
no linux = no bots
🫡 gonan spinn up those hyper-v vms just u wait
grim parcel
we just need to ban all linux users from steam
grim parcel
🫡 gonan spinn up those hyper-v vms just u wait
the muta hack doesn’t work anymore noob
unborn pecan
erm who is muta
grim parcel
some ordinary gamers
kind falcon
mutahar
Warning to all Faceit (and possibly ESEA) players! Playing in KVM VM with GPU passthrough might get you banned!
grim parcel
he’s the guy who made that libvirt hyperv config popular
that let it work on valorant
left sand
wait did skial really bypass the 64 player block in like an hour
summer steeple
pffff
unborn pecan
wait did skial really bypass the 64 player block in like an hour
Yeah I saw it in the browser
39/64
it's actually insane
kind falcon
owneded
kind falcon
SUCKS
grim parcel
playing skial is like watching a powerpoint presentation
unborn pecan
It literally looks like a cs:go map redone for tf2
summer steeple
appeared on the workshop april 30th, and on tf2maps may 1st
small sirenBOT
left sand
skial be like: ent
summer steeple
guess what version of the map this is
kind falcon
balls
unborn pecan
guess what version of the map this is
tf2maps?
left sand
wait THATS VENICE????
left sand
i never played it
unborn pecan
version number
a3
left sand
rc1
summer steeple
a6
kind falcon
guess what version of the map this is
why does this look better than whatever is in casual
summer steeple
it was uploaded MAY 1ST
unborn pecan
how tf did an a6 map get into the game
unborn pecan
is that a good or bad thing?
summer steeple
that version, is RC3
unborn pecan
I don't get why they did an artpass before idk
summer steeple
thats a bad thing
unborn pecan
making the map good
summer steeple
so that means venice got at least 2 weeks of development
unborn pecan
That's like gold plating a huge turd
summer steeple
plus any amount of development that we didn't see
now, its not necessarily that the mappers are bad
in fact, they're quite talented
kind falcon
i think fiend should create a map for team fortress the second
left sand
fiend did
summer steeple
i'm working on it
left sand
grim parcel
valve needs to just delete every map besides 2fort, upward, and banana bay. the art style would be much more consistent
summer steeple
for an example of a map that the same 2 people who did venice did, alongside one other person
unborn pecan
valve needs to just delete every map besides 2fort, upward, and banana bay. the ...
You should delete your balls for this take bro
kind falcon
now make it both halloween and Christmas themed
unborn pecan
Mutiny looks like a cs:go map
oh it is
So like
Did these two cs:go mappers make this tf2 map just cause they wanted one of their maps in tf2?
summer steeple
here's the thing
left sand
making csgo maps is 10000x easier than tf2
left sand
all you do in csgo map is put 3 walls down and youre done
unborn pecan
making csgo maps is 10000x easier than tf2
I thought for cs:go maps you have to use a bunch of models for ornate details
left sand
connector
radiant merlin
hopefully the map makers will do some balance changes
unborn pecan
Oh yeah the layout is doo doo easy
summer steeple
in fact, one of the maps they worked on (artpass tho) is in the game
kind falcon
middel
kind falcon
Wow. That stinky map
left sand
and middle has two asymmetrical flanks with a L-shape hallway
summer steeple
ok but you have to admit that precipice looks good
left sand
and thats it
summer steeple
however
left sand
thats the map
unborn pecan
mcoms if I make a cs:go map in get it in the game, I will dedicate to the best performance config ever 
🙏
left sand
all the distance units are done for you, everyone knows the engagement times already
unborn pecan
|| comanglia ||
kind falcon
mcoms if I make a cs:go map in get it in the game, I will dedicate to the best p...
put an ad on a banner
left sand
you spend more time in calculator than hammer
and then yeah you have to do an insane artpass
unborn pecan
50 hours in tf2
😭 BRO WTF
left sand
but thats not mapping
unborn pecan
50 hours in TF2 and they decided to make a tf2 map?
summer steeple
yes
kind falcon
Venice has a cool bridge! And you can only jump over it if you are a mobile class!
left sand
mcoms if I make a cs:go map in get it in the game, I will dedicate to the best p...
good thing csgo is dying next week
unborn pecan
Venice looks like a map you see on a trade server
unborn pecan
good thing csgo is dying next week
😭 shit
kind falcon
good thing csgo is dying next week
anyone hyped for next week?
left sand
is venice like
unborn pecan
Will CS:GO servers still be up, or will it be an overwatch situation
left sand
1:1 to cs
unborn pecan
ike
summer steeple
I do want to bring up cause you mentioned it hurricane
unborn pecan
.7:1
left sand
is there any regard for tf2
unborn pecan
is there any regard for tf2
the spawn rooms?
left sand
like rocket jumping
summer steeple
the reason its bad to artpass a map early is because it makes it harder to make changes
kind falcon
it has those doorways that most halloween maps have
left sand
the ones which prevent you from jumping
unborn pecan
then you go for art after the layout is done
kind falcon
corridors . i don’t know
left sand
and you get caught on the door
kind falcon
and you get caught on the door
unborn pecan
door sounds like boar
kind falcon
@teal sand where did that message go
unborn pecan
teal sand
coms deleted it
kind falcon
gg
teal sand
she hates meaningful discussion
unborn pecan
😭
kind falcon
balls even
teal sand
kind falcon
summer steeple
i'm looking at the version of venice that is in the game now
and it is... mostly the same
teal sand
canals is set in venice and it is a bad map 
canal, venice, art pass...... more like anal, penis, fart ass!!!!
kind falcon
venice is a map from overwatch therefore delete
left sand
they should add an overwatch map to tf2 1:1 next
unborn pecan
they should add an overwatch map to tf2 1:1 next
Phoenix
teal sand
they should add an overwatch map to tf2 1:1 next
doomsday
left sand
a2
teal sand
oh wait overwatch to tf2
left sand
phoenix is legit route 66
teal sand
i dont know ow maps past like 2017
kind falcon
mmmmmm.., what is that map im thinking of
teal sand
route 66 was fun but also nostalgia
unborn pecan
phoenix is legit route 66
It looks pretty like an overwatch map too
grim parcel
i’d like hollywood
summer steeple
venice looks good for a tf2 map
kind falcon
hole mole?
grim parcel
the voicelines would be funny
unborn pecan
venice looks good for a tf2 map
It does, but it feels like a cs:go map
unborn pecan
😭
unborn pecan
I mean venice is somewhat pretty
summer steeple
sorry i'm still malding about venice
unborn pecan
but like
summer steeple
its not
radiant merlin
let's fucking go
unborn pecan
big fan of oiter
teal sand
let's fucking go
they copied the purpole thign from overwathc.....
unborn pecan
I think the most ugly part of venice is the 3d skybox
teal sand
what were they called again
summer steeple
I tested it
summer steeple
i gave feedback
teal sand
the uprising
kind falcon
https://tenor.com/view/mole-gif-24182780
wow. imagine these little creatures are at risk of extinction
summer steeple
and i don't think they made any changes
unborn pecan
It is so vague
teal sand
these things
unborn pecan
the 3dskybox
It doesn't even matter if it is there
Venice is a wet dream for pyroshark
summer steeple
this damn bridge has been here since the first release
kind falcon
the water and the sky on the norwegian seal map are literally one color
kind falcon
this damn bridge has been here since the first release
(my favorite)
unborn pecan
the water and the sky on the norwegian seal map are literally one color
I love the norwegian seal map
kind falcon
I love the norwegian seal map
facts bro they stay silly
kind falcon
its just... there
yes. a skip for mobile classes. great design
summer steeple
also idk if venice (the real place) is just like this
but isn't this area with the bridge just like 1:1 canals
unborn pecan
but isn't this area with the bridge just like 1:1 canals
honestly
GUYS
tc_hydro is a better map than venince
summer steeple
like i'm sorry, i know mapping is hard, i fucking map
but this map feels like it was made in 2 weeks with the express purpose of getting in the game
it wasn't made out of passion
or to make a map
unborn pecan
That's what I'm saying
summer steeple
it was made to make a quick buck
summer steeple
also i just find this funny
but the creator of venice
A. was not the person who uploaded it to tf2maps
B. left a review on tf2maps FOR THEIR MAP a day after it was added to the page that just says "incredible"
jagged pawn
lmfao
summer steeple
they created an account on tf2m a day prior
unborn pecan
fiend you gotta create a reddit thread on r/tf2
left sand
i think we should have more stalematey maps in tf2
unborn pecan
i think we should have more stalematey maps in tf2
erm
summer steeple
i see little to no passion in this map
unborn pecan
.....
summer steeple
and it is depressing
unborn pecan
bad opinion?
summer steeple
and quite frankly, frustrating
because there are people who put hundreds or thousands of hours into mapping
trying over and over, getting feedback
kind falcon
it was made to make a quick buck
erm fiend. How much money for team fortress map
summer steeple
all to try and make a map that is good
unborn pecan
I bet you the tf2maps.net discord has torn venice a new ass
summer steeple
yes
jagged pawn
I think tf2 should be less fun to teach the youth about the good old days when we went outside and played stick and hoop
summer steeple
but the mods stepped in a bit because we were being a bit too harsh
left sand
i see little to no passion in this map
its a great map imo
like lots of art and stuff and design
but like it seems like a kind of map a csgoer would make
you know
where its like
layout is 5% of a map
95% is art pass
summer steeple
i just noticed this chimney
oh yeah and this map has chicken wire fences that you can shoot through
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
because csgo mappers are used to bullets going through things
but tf2 players aren't
kind falcon
oh yeah and this map has chicken wire fences that you can shoot through
there’s some kind of sniper spot near that bridge too
kind falcon
very fun to spam from there!
radiant merlin
kind falcon
also has wire whatever’s
summer steeple
90% made out of models
its funny you say that because this map is like 90% brush and i don't think has any custom models
well, at least not any that didn't already exist
left sand
there’s some kind of sniper spot near that bridge too
how do you play every game to completion within 6 hours of any content coming out
kind falcon
how do you play every game to completion within 6 hours of any content coming o...
what
idk you answered that one sometime before
left sand
you know every fortnite, tf2, csgo, dota 2, rainbow 6, teamfight tactics, smite change
kind falcon
kill r6
left sand
idk you answered that one sometime before
i know
kind falcon
That never happened.
summer steeple
its funny you say that because this map is like 90% brush and i don't think has ...
i'm wrong
there is custom assets
not a ton
but still
kind falcon
but you should say it
Not ready.
unborn pecan
the flags?
summer steeple
that and a few more
left sand
Not ready.
ready up for happy farmer
unborn pecan
the skybox is ass on venice
kind falcon
ready up for happy farmer
Not ready.
unborn pecan
they had the chance to make it cool and have like
buildings you can actually see far away
but it looks like sometihng out of hl2
kind falcon
@left sand remake happy farmer in vscript
spare obsidian
what was the oldest map to be added here?
unborn pecan
what was the oldest map to be added here?
cashworks
unborn pecan
most pretty map in the game is 2fort
kind falcon
your house will be bombarded in 4 hours 37 minutes
summer steeple
ok so i dug up some old messages
unborn pecan
can't wait 🙃
unborn pecan
ok so i dug up some old messages
on the tf2maps discord?
summer steeple
anyway
according to one of the devs, in early april venice was 95% greybox
so that means venice was made in a little over a month
at most
unborn pecan
bruh
that's actually insane
imagine all of the other mappers malding
that an objective piece of shit got in
spare obsidian
what's wrong about venice
summer steeple
it was horrendously rushed
unborn pecan
don't feel bad fiend
unborn pecan
They wanted to create a map for the sake of fame
unborn pecan
for the glory of getting in tf2
summer steeple
at the very least the artist i think cared
spare obsidian
how does it looks like?
kind falcon
embrace it
kind falcon
how does it looks like?
like venice, italy
unborn pecan
how does it looks like?
like a cs:go map
summer steeple
like if they continue to update it and make it good, great
like from what i can tell, the reason it was artpassed so soon is because they wanted it to be on the workshop and look good
good is subjective
but its just
jagged pawn
this is an inevitable part of valve announcing a deadline
people will force out unfinished content for the sake of a chance
unborn pecan
valve should go back to no communication
summer steeple
ok here's the thing
valve announced this update feb 9th
it seems like early alpha of venice was early april
at the point that you're coming on 2 months late
with 1 month left
why are you trying to make a map to get into this update
from scratch
spare obsidian
tl;dr of this drama?
kind falcon
map looks bad. got into the update
summer steeple
the drama is that venice was made in about a month, with little changes, released fully artpassed, and the layout was made by someone with 50 hours in tf2
so i do feel bad for the artist
spare obsidian
wutville levels?
summer steeple
idk
kind falcon
it doesn’t have exploits as cool as wutville
jagged pawn
Wutville is more fun than venince
this is too far
unborn pecan
IT'S TURE
summer steeple
its clear that the artist is good friends with the person who did the layout
unborn pecan
I will stand by wutville
summer steeple
they work together a lot
kind falcon
venice is NOT opium
venice is copium
summer steeple
but like
there's a point i think where you just need to stop
like say "there's no way we're making a map in a month"
and i'll give them that
they did make a map in a month
spare obsidian
so it was basically the mapper's fault?
summer steeple
and it got in
unborn pecan
so it was basically the mapper's fault?
I think so