so idk why VALVe requires you to input tax info if you aint gonna get money at all.
#Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year
wild grove
spare obsidian
yeah literally
like its really really dumb
why would i get pay for fixing other people's work????
orchid sorrel
Yes
I had to do so for the bigrock god spot fix
Its just how the workshop works
It wasn’t made for stuff like fixes and they haven’t accomodated for it
formal dew
paid mods moment
spare obsidian
well i have emailed steam support
since IRL issues and how stupid banks are here because they force you to paid for the credit card usage even if its not being used lol
radiant merlin
the original dmx was broken
i recompiled it again with blender and now works
please, if you know more issues with the robots' animations that aren't listed in my mod, please let me know
spare obsidian
how did valve turn their standar human animations into a robotic animations?
spare obsidian
i mean, some of its anims are actually just a choppier version of the human anims
there's some exceptions like the engineer's wrench anim
radiant merlin
no
they are inspired in the human ones but they were not reused
that's probably why some of them are broken
grim parcel
you know, valve cared about tf2
no, impossible. reddit told me valve hates tf2 so much that they just reused overwatch assets for jungle inferno
formal dew
the upcoming update was made from overwatch 3 assets
slender nexus
valve doodoofarted and accidentally granted the items as trial run items
spare obsidian
BRUH
cursive peak
I mean, it is just UGC.
orchid sorrel
i need some context
I borrowed a kunai from the store last week
spare obsidian
sustancial ammount of tomfolery
radiant merlin
spare obsidian
lmfao
slender nexus
tf2 is still gay 🌈
hoary geyser
that's pretty gay
potent wolf
Team Fortress 2 Megathread - (still) gay edition
kind falcon
sparkling gay
potent wolf
?
radiant merlin
the sniper robot is just completely still
so... i tried to create a custom animation in blender
and it's hard af
spare obsidian
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/4993 this is why we need this
radiant merlin
i'm using the leaked models
the thing is that animating is hard
i think valve used maya for them
paper sluice
the leak also has some files that let us now which exact version of maya they used
cuz for some reason dmx files can include the pc's name and a bunch of other specific stuff
kind falcon
do you mind receiving a ban
slender nexus
do you mind receiving a ban
🤯
left sand
anyone EXCITED for this week?
cursive peak
Should we be?
orchid sorrel
anyone EXCITED for this week?
yes because i have 4 days off in a row
left sand
heck yeah
wild grove
anyone EXCITED for this week?
is the sentence going to be more capitalized, the more weeks go by without the summer update coming out?
spare obsidian
mcoms is lossing hope guys....
formal dew
The update will drop on October 20
slender nexus
The update will drop on October 20
June pride month will now be held in December
wild grove
Update is prolly dropping this week or later in july.
slender nexus
inb4 it drops on September 20th right before the autumn equinox
cursive peak
When's the annual Hawaii trip for Valve? If it doesn't drop before then, it'll have to be after it.
formal dew
April iirc
jagged pawn
so summer 2023 update in may?
jagged pawn
no idea why people say this there's no month pattern
they usually happen towards the end of the month, but which month is seemingly random
july 29
june 22
august 21
july 25
spare obsidian
valve isn't really a fan of rushing things for sake of deadlines lol
small sirenBOT
spare obsidian
also i think its their vacational trip next month?
wild grove
july 29
june 22
august 21
july 25
August 21st was for 2020 summer case, it's release date was bad for content creators since that only gave like less than a month for them to take a break til the next window for selection which was usually august-september.
could be october 20th tho 
really tho don't believe in patterns, they'll release when they feel it should.
cursive peak
When's The International? They tend to not release during that, either.
wild grove
October
Halloween update prolly gonna release before the international since it's on the 27th.
high current
@left sand sorry for the ping but wanted to ask you this: do you know if there’s a viable fix Valve could make to the friends list to eliminate the stuttering some people experience with it? Or could they push the stutter to a less intrusive time, like for example the friends-list only updates when actively shown on the pause menu or even not in game?
That and the 3d player model are pretty much the majority of what custom huds “optimize” (delete) in favor of fps. So if they fixed those it’d be a decent UI optimization. Literally just a thought I had driving back from town for an hour.
radiant merlin
i think vgui doesn't like dynamic network updates
potent wolf
Never
spare obsidian
shus
spare obsidian
cat
slender nexus
kitty
spare obsidian
can we ban this dude for disrespeting cats? smh smh
kind falcon
smh my head
slender nexus
😭
potent wolf
left sand
<@115180582845153282> sorry for the ping but wanted to ask you this: do you know...
i can't really put in time to investigating anything introduced in JI or later. like the friends list
I've already looked at the 3d player model
high current
Ah didn’t realize that was post-JI. Thought that was MYM. Thanks for the response though, was basically just a shower thought.
potent wolf
I reset my achievements ||which totally weren't cheated in the first time||
not like it mattered, i started playing after 2016
left sand
not like it mattered, i started playing after 2016
owned
left sand
i got this achievement in 2014 on an older account
i got this on xbox in 2004
potent wolf
me!
formal dew
bun
spare obsidian
bun fortress 2
wild grove
WHo's EXCITED for today?
kind falcon
WHo's EXCITED for today?
noone.
kind falcon
what happens today?
jagged pawn
people complain about the update not dropping even though there was no reason to think it would drop today
kind falcon
Crazy inside information: update drops in 2023
jagged pawn
I don't believe you
kind falcon
I don't believe you
i can be trusted
jagged pawn
yknow what I just checked your pronouns and that seems trustworthy to me
small sirenBOT
jagged pawn
haikubot is real
kind falcon
yknow what I just checked your pronouns and that seems trustworthy to me
which one
jagged pawn
kind falcon
inside information in there too
jagged pawn
what
wild grove
people complain about the update not dropping even though there was no reason to...
Not with that attitude.
kind falcon
Not with that attitude.
kind falcon
corndogs
next nymph
people complain about the update not dropping even though there was no reason to...
ive received an anonymous tip that the update will happen some time after january 1st 2021
jagged pawn
that makes sense
left sand
tonight.
jagged pawn
maybe next year
potent wolf
it'll happen in the next decade, probably....
left sand
i had to enable all my 12 computers last time
it got delayed
kind falcon
it got delayed
Cool.
summer steeple
man
I'm making an entry for a tf2maps detail contest
and i'm just depressingly looking at expiration date and all the really good props they have that would be useful that just aren't public
like the scene in spy's smoking room
is filled to the brim with assets that aren't public
there's like 4 different photos in the background of spy with various people
this one looks like he's with some sort of monarch?
kind falcon
nike monarch iv
crisp cedar
i feel like they planned to release these props at some point, but like many things valve thought to do, never did
summer steeple
i mean didn't they also plan to release a jungle pack after JI released
its a shame really
valve has so many assets which could be super helpful either for SFM or just for maps that they haven't released
i was surprised that the only glass prop in the game is this orange juice glass from powerhouse
rn i'm making a fancy whiskey glass
similar to the one from expiration date
it looks ok
needs a texture tho
oh cool thank you hlmv
left sand
who is EXCITED FOR TOMORROW???
cursive peak
I have to work, which takes some of the excitement out of it.
jagged pawn
so what are we thinking in terms of name
are they just gonna call it summer 2023? or will they maybe make it more interesting
I think it's tough for them to name it anything too specific since they're just adding random workshop content, but I think something along the lines of the 119th update could be funny
left sand
there's 3 possibilities
1 is a generic summer name
of some variety
2 others are based upon content in the update
jagged pawn
hale's own update
next nymph
so what are we thinking in terms of name
fun in the sun
jagged pawn
on a serious note I'm not entirely sure I buy the speculation around vsh. like on the one hand I definitely think it makes sense for valve to throw a new category into casual, really efficient way to make an update feel substantial without having to expend too much effort on it. but vsh doesn't really seem to fit that goal; if they threw in arena or player destruction it'd be a lot easier and plenty of people would be happy with that
but if they do vsh then they'll realistically have to make new hud elements to replace the current patchwork of plain text messages on screen, as well as replace the fanmade voice acting for saxton to properly match jungle inferno (I know the in game voice actors aren't ALWAYS the same as the ones in the shorts but it would be weird for them to not do this!)
summer steeple
nah valve doesn't have to do jackshit for VSH
there are maps in the game that use the plain text messages on screen
plus when vscript gets vgui support then the map makers can do it themselves
small sirenBOT
jagged pawn
there are maps in the game that use the plain text messages on screen
by "maps in the game" doesn't this mean like, two halloween maps
summer steeple
yeah
jagged pawn
I wish those ones were updated to not do that but even that aside it's different to have a couple seasonal maps do it vs an entire year round game mode
jagged pawn
plus when vscript gets vgui support then the map makers can do it themselves
valve would simply wait until then, no? rather than add it now
wild grove
plus when vscript gets vgui support then the map makers can do it themselves
Is that the next goal for the contractor?
summer steeple
Is that the next goal for the contractor?
its already been confirmed and shown off a bit by ficool
wild grove
Nice
summer steeple
at the very least that it exists
wild grove
valve would simply wait until then, no? rather than add it now
They can update it later.
summer steeple
i wouldn't doubt that it will be in the summer update
summer steeple
i hadn't heard that it was scrapped?
left sand
oh hm
summer steeple
honestly i kinda assumed that the watergate devs made the UI but it makes sense that valve would've done it
left sand
valve barely made anything
jagged pawn
player destruction had ui made for it
I feel like this is a little different considering it was for a themed major update, in an era where tf2 still had an active team lol
left sand
eh
its p much the same activity
minus the major update pushes
in fact id argue way more patch activity recently in the past few years
ofc in lieu of major updates but still
jagged pawn
not gonna pretend to understand the inner workings but the activity as of recent has almost all been technical no? as opposed to what I would have to imagine would be an art project in hud design
I suppose the snakes in snakewater are an exception to the technical pattern but that's still not the same as the hud
summer steeple
snakewater is community made
if valve was gonna add snakes they'd make a prop lol
unborn pecan
mmm snamke
next nymph
the problem with vsh is that it's a fundamentally unbalanced mess that the game is not made to, or capable of, properly supporting
wild grove
I haven't played thr vscript version so I wouldn't know.
summer steeple
iirc its a bit better
jagged pawn
I mean I don't like vsh but it's well made generally speaking
small sirenBOT
summer steeple
but still has some balance changes because they couldn't make it work with the default weapon stats
wild grove
I do know that plugin version was hugely unbalanced from the boss side with specific bosses.
summer steeple
the only boss rn is just hale and he's way different
next nymph
the big trouble is that tf2's classes and weapons aren't designed around a singular boss enemy, which is fine when it's something like the halloween bosses because they're temporary and not taken seriously in the first place, but not so much in vsh
next nymph
you can fix all the technical issues of vsh and polish it up as much as you want, but you'd need a fundamentally different game for it to make sense
summer steeple
i remember there was a big discussion around how the natasha should work in vscript VSH
cause its just such a massive nerf to hale
jagged pawn
wait lmfao
summer steeple
this is the only documentation i can find rn on vscript vsh changes
jagged pawn
is the natascha ban a thing even in the vscript version? because if so valve would absolutely not bite lol
summer steeple
idk
but also like
mannpower exists and has weird hidden balance changes
valve is not unfamiliar with just having random ass changes that they don't tell you about
jagged pawn
ok but mannpower sucks
summer steeple
mvm i think also has a few hidden changes
jagged pawn
no but on a serious note I wish some of the mannpower changes would be made universal, they are largely good changes
I'm not aware of mvm's but that would make sense
summer steeple
i think mvms is mostly just nerfing heavy against tanks
jagged pawn
oh I mean that's not really a change
summer steeple
but thats less about heavy and more about the tank
jagged pawn
yeah
summer steeple
seriously tho valve made a lot of weird hidden changes
like scout has a fixed respawn time
wild grove
Health boosts from collected cash should be on spy as well.
Fuck no wait
The extra large cash collection radius
not the hp thing.
summer steeple
ok so i downloaded VSH and here's the current merc changes
jagged pawn
I mean again most of these changes are just because of unique features of the mode
faster respawns is really the only one that could conceivably exist in pvp
and I guess spy being able to reveal other spies
wild grove
It would be cool to see spy being able to see thru disguises.
small sirenBOT
orchid sorrel
I didnt even know the spy reveal thing was a feature
I just figured spy bots just always decloak when near a target
summer steeple
half-zatoichi and head taking swords apply on hit (same as plugin?)
demo shield tanks a hit (same as plugin)
sentries do half damage and knockback (no clue)
KGB applies buff on hit (probably same as plugin?)
minigun does 60% damage (no clue)
the natasha change checks if you're a medic and gives charge rate bonus. this is not a joke i assume this is a mistake
ubercharge rate is increased (no clue)
hitman's heatmaker focus calculations are different in some way but idk how they're caclulated normally (no clue)
sniper headshots bypass hale's crit resistance, altho it only seems to deal 1.25x damage? i could be wrong
air strike gives you a head for every 250 damage you deal with it
market gardener does backstab damage (see below)
backstabs do different damage but idk how much that is with how its calculated, also stops the spy from attacking or cloaking for 2 seconds? (probably same as plugin?)
kunai and big earner apply on backstab even tho its not a kill
YER disguises you as a teammate? (prob not in plugin)
this is changes right now, and likely will change
there's a lot thats commented out
oh it also looks like melees always crit aside from gardener and holiday punch?
its certainly not as many changes as the plugin
jagged pawn
uber rate increase is in the original but it functions differently, it's clunkier
basically after your uber runs out it resets to 30% instead of 0%
vscript implementation makes more sense
also these changes all absolutely sound like they would solely work in vsh lol. like zero of these would make any sense in core modes
which obviously makes sense but it's just funny
the only thing that comes to mind as like, could be added to base tf2 is the shield change. but instead of that being how shields work it could be how the razorback works
also wonder what's up with the natascha
summer steeple
i think they might've copied over the medigun one as a baseline and then forgot to change it
summer steeple
not really it was just changes that got removed
i think there was one for the candy cane
and if stickies deal 1000+ damage in one det it is supposed to play a happy birthday noisemaker sound but that was apparently buggy so it was removed
jagged pawn
oh lol I see
left sand
tf2 mvm kinda works with big bosses
you dont need upgrades when its only one person vs everyone
small sirenBOT
jagged pawn
ooooooo
spare obsidian
source???
formal dew
ye
wild grove
volvo is testing all the maps tonight
Oopda tomorrow?
radiant merlin
damn eric working late night
radiant merlin
Oopda tomorrow?
wild grove
Yeah and me saying oopda tomorrow is a joke, it's coming in a august.
yes that's right, a august, not this august.
jagged pawn
they're absolutely trying to get it out tomorrow. regardless of if they succeed it's crazy that they're hard at work this late
spare obsidian
welp i think imma deleted my patches :(
formal dew
Why
spare obsidian
idk really, since i don't have billing information my post is non indexes, i don't want to summit one... because i can't for IRL reasons (and ethical reasons) even if i wanted lol
i wish if someone could help me lol
wild grove
could ask TF2 Cut Content but it's better to actually supply tax info
spare obsidian
i, don't really like that guy
its a very long drama i don't want to talk about
I would prefer if someone that i trust do it
jagged pawn
"contact the freak" is generally not a good thing to recommend to people lmao
spare obsidian
yeah lol
wild grove
"contact the freak" is generally not a good thing to recommend to people lmao
well that freak is the only one I know that is rereleasing gamebanana mods I mean submitting ""community fixes"" for people onto the workshop.
jagged pawn
had to dig for a sec but here are some dms that a friend of mine got from that loser
sending in particular because of the last two messages
wild grove
it's either the freak or submit tax info.
jagged pawn
then submit tax info
wild grove
they don't want to do that for some reason.
I mean they could ask someone that does have the info.
jagged pawn
easily the biggest problem in this community is the lack of willingness to cut out the freaks. it's one of the things I like about this server, it's one of the few places free from them. go anywhere else and you constantly run into fans of zesty, aar, tf2cc, etc. it's gross
so no, I do not think telling someone to work with tf2cc is a serious thing to do
wild grove
idk, he wants his stuff considered, it's that, actually submit tax info, or ask someone else. The whole freak thing is the last resort.
and I mean last resort.
summer steeple
honestly i feel bad for tf2cc
dude seems to really care about the game but... has a lot of problems
small sirenBOT
wild grove
I am gonna block you
spare obsidian
i mean i could ask fiend or ashe for help, the issue with tax info its the banks in here SUCKS they would cut dryed you even uf you don't use your credit card
summer steeple
i'm not even sure if i've input my tax info
spare obsidian
basically glorified AWS w3 server billing in a nutshell
they would charge you even when is on idle
spare obsidian
had to dig for a sec but here are some dms that a friend of mine got from that l...
yep classical 404
summer steeple
yeah i haven't
spare obsidian
mf literally joined a tf2 discord server that's relate to archival of periodic tf2 updates just to shit on the owner and call us the R word lol
summer steeple
i actually wonder if valve specifically like filters workshop results between people who have or haven't filled out the info
or if they even plan to pay people for community fixes
like i kinda doubt that they will
wild grove
they don't pay people for community fixes if we look to the past ones that got added.
spare obsidian
yeah they don't
wild grove
they don't pay people for community fixes if we look to the past ones that got a...
but the tax info thing is there for whatever reason.
summer steeple
i think the tax info thing is just for the workshop in general
but like
i haven't input it and my shit is still public
wild grove
really
summer steeple
yeah
summer steeple
i mean it has comments on it
you can basically just search for tf2 optimized maps project
spare obsidian
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2997356338 it is weird because this one ain't public and i literally have set it to public
jagged pawn
wdym not public I see
spare obsidian
idk that's why i'm kinda down these days
jagged pawn
oh weird
summer steeple
there is like a steam agreement aside from the contact/banking info if you haven't accepted that
spare obsidian
that's the issue, I don't have a bank account lol
summer steeple
no but like
there's an agreement besides that
idk if this will fix it but it might?
radiant merlin
i have submitted my tax info but i'm pretty sure my address doesn't exist in my country lol
it's supposed to be the address of my house but it doesn't exist for my muni i believe
it's the address where my electricity bills go to tho, so it should be fine
otherwise i may be forced to clarify things to my tax org lol
small sirenBOT
zealous pond
easily the biggest problem in this community is the lack of willingness to cut o...
I'm a freak. You got a problem with that?
spare obsidian
i've clicked it that now, imma just wait then
jagged pawn
I'm a freak. You got a problem with that?
this is not a funny joke when the context is pedophiles and people who regularly send out death threats
zealous pond
Zesty's a pedo?
jagged pawn
aar
zesty defends him which is also not good, and has done many other bad things, but I don't think there's any reason to believe he's a pedophile
spare obsidian
context
jagged pawn
context
tw ||got caught commissioning nsfw art of children in diapers||, still regularly appears in other tf2ber's content! that's a no go for me personally!
spare obsidian
💀
jagged pawn
I love this community
spare obsidian
- one is a pedo
- its an angry 4chan /v/ (yeah that's the vibe that zesty gives)
- is a crack head that got rationed by a tf2c lead dev about 404 putting morality and legality over beyta (on the server i said before he literally stated publicly that he would buy repo access to leak the shit out of itz wich it did happen with some files like the demo bot and 4 level sentry) literally send bots toa general valve beta server because yes, and he has stated publicly that he smokes crack, oh and also is a general asshole
over the span of 2018 to 2023 i know the entire history of 404/TF2CC
wild grove
1. one is a pedo
2. its an angry 4chan /v/ (yeah that's the vibe that zesty give...
Zesty literally goes to the tf2 4chan thread.
spare obsidian
💀
zealous pond
lol
spare obsidian
welcome to the 4chan /v/ tf2 thread we have
Angry boomers
doomer posters
people that knows more than the game devs
people that pretends to know about game design
elitists
wild grove
welcome to the 4chan /v/ tf2 thread we have
>Angry boomers
>doomer posters
>peo...
I love how the 2 things before elitists are similar to one another.
jagged pawn
left sand
tw ||got caught commissioning nsfw art of children in diapers||, still regularly...
im pretty sure that's not true
jagged pawn
I mean I'm not gonna dig for it but he admitted
or actually I should say, he admitted ||that he had a diaper fetish and then people later found art he commissioned of young characters||
left sand
i don't think he ever did so how you explain it
crisp cedar
i digged for it and i know everything
but thats too much work for me to recall everything
next nymph
or actually I should say, he admitted ||that he had a diaper fetish and then peo...
i thought the whole thing was that people were like ||"look at this diaper fetish! That's pedophilia inherently"|| and really dominated the narrative so people thought it was the case but the two arent actually the same
left sand
anyone EXCITED for 9 hours from now?
kind falcon
are we playing dota in 9 hours from now?
kind falcon
how many computers
none i smashed all of them
left sand
are we playing dota in 9 hours from now?
definitely not
kind falcon
i dont own a computer anymore
left sand
what is your discord online status then.
kind falcon
what is your discord online status then.
idle
left sand
not idle phone
kind falcon
theres no idle phone
left sand
on backend
kind falcon
on backend
proof?
kind falcon
you already leaked
left sand
i leaked non sensitive information: user data
kind falcon
i leaked non sensitive information: user data
how is it not sensitive
next nymph
anyone EXCITED for 9 hours from now?
in some parts of the world its already 9 hours from now, makes you think
left sand
how is it not sensitive
data brokering
kind falcon
data brokering
broke
zealous pond
I'll be excited when I have a reason to be.
potent wolf
i'm so excited that tf2 will never get another update!
grim parcel
i still can’t believe valve is shutting down the game
so sad
i guess the mastercomfig server will need to become an overwatch server
potent wolf
overwatch 2 you mean?
slender nexus
grim parcel
https://www.roblox.com/games/61684446/Team-Fortress-2-Roblox-Edition-UPDATE-21-2...
YOO MASTERCOMFIG FOR ROBLOX TF2 WHEN
kind falcon
YOO MASTERCOMFIG FOR ROBLOX TF2 WHEN
that would be against tos
zealous pond
I hope that's what it's called.
Summer Update.
No passion, no bells and whistles, just a cold, soulless list of six patch notes like every case drop.
grim parcel
anyone EXCITED for 9 hours from now?
mcoms is literally tyler mcvicker's alt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io8HqEfbuCs
next nymph
tyler mcvicker rumors: "someone on the mastercomfig discord implied it"
formal dew
no tyler
zealous pond
New weapons confirmed?
crisp cedar
No passion, no bells and whistles, just a cold, soulless list of six patch notes...
i thought this is what u wanted
not new weapons
potent wolf
I don't see why people are getting their hopes up about it being a new major update
they're setting themselves up for disappointment.
cursive peak
I'm hoping it's major in terms of performance improvements and bug fixes.
zealous pond
Because people enjoy phony hype for some reason.
potent wolf
I'm hoping it's major in terms of performance improvements and bug fixes.
I'm personally excited for that too, but I don't see how we're going to get new weapons or balance changes.
although it would be very funny if they just released an update with one minor bugfix and called that the summer update
next nymph
i hope they announce a hd remake of tf2
zealous pond
It's already in HD.
cursive peak
Maybe we'll get a vscript map.
As I've said before, I don't think the community can be appeased by any update.
No matter how much they throw into it, it'll get shit on.
spare obsidian
ehh i mean, its surprising valve is finally giving a test to their beta steam depot a usage lol
tacit flare
As I've said before, I don't think the community can be appeased by any update.
I think they can, especially if there are an absolute shitton of bug fixes and performance increases. There's so much Valve could do to make TF2 a better experience without needing any new content at all.
cursive peak
The community will say it sucks because of no new content.
spare obsidian
the normal community? yeah the ""community"" over 4chan's tf2 /v/ thread? nah lmfao
glass musk
ew 4chan
tacit flare
TF2 has plenty of content, most of which the "community" hates anyway as they only vote for the same 4 maps.
spare obsidian
its the meme of shoting yourself with a shotgun and blaming someone because you did it
kind falcon
there definitely will be contracts. please buy those cases and send them over to me
tacit flare
TF2 receives an update with cosmetics: I sleep.
TF2 receives a massive QoL update: 
spare obsidian
where's the source?
tacit flare
I would trade 100 "content" updates for a single QoL update fixing multicore rendering, for example.
glass musk
would they be limited to a finite amount
spare obsidian
I would trade 100 "content" updates for a single QoL update fixing multicore ren...
that's simply not a easy task to do lol even mscoms tried and can't managed to fix it
cursive peak
Aren't the JI contracts good through 2038?
spare obsidian
the engine its simply tied to single core
at that point you just move to s2 since the amount of changes just to fix multicore rendering is really not worth it
kind falcon
true or false
this requires simple logic
grim parcel
I don't see why people are getting their hopes up about it being a new major upd...
NOOO valve will totally make another jungle inferno soon
but they are also horrible developers who never actually had passion for the game and any update they release i will instantly hate
-a concerned redditor
glass musk
does it
kind falcon
yes
glass musk
or are you just trolling
kind falcon
i am not
glass musk
then clarify
spare obsidian
at that point you just move to s2 since the amount of changes just to fix multic...
I remenber that i managed to get csm in tf2 i just gave uppon it since, no son ain't gonna compile shaders for a whole week lol
tacit flare
that's simply not a easy task to do lol even mscoms tried and can't managed to f...
Regardless of that specific fix, MasterComs has proven that when a bit of effort is put in, major improvements can be made. Even extremely basic things like updating the default config so loading TF2 for the first time doesn't open up in 854 X 480.
spare obsidian
source 1 is a really weird engine
everything is tied to a single core
while the game logic is multicore
formal dew
all about the pentiums baby
spare obsidian
i've see someone managed to add multicore map loading into the engine lol
potent wolf
It's a very old engine is what it is
kind falcon
gab newel said:
im not doing multicore i dont like playstation.
small sirenBOT
formal dew
This update could be a turning point in support because with cs2 out tf2 will be the last supported source 1 game
and by supported i mean gets more updates than left 4 dead 2
obv all of their games get security patches every year or so
small sirenBOT
spare obsidian
also loading times in source are a problem even with SSD
crisp cedar
l4d2 source 2 lets go
spare obsidian
Keep dreaming ray
formal dew
the plantation
crisp cedar
Keep dreaming ray
its a more valid dream than tf2 on source 2
and more realistic
i wonder if like
formal dew
if that happened tf2 fans would go apeshit
spare obsidian
ehhh valve internally have ported most of their game codes to s2 lol
crisp cedar
when valve finally releases that damn source 2 sdk
i wonder if they would like
outsource source 2 port development
of their old shit
cuz theyve warmed up a ton to outsourcing their work
next nymph
valve announces tf2 will be ported to unreal engine 4
crisp cedar
its normal for devs in the industry to outsource work from studios regarding things like remasters
NOT for tf2
spare obsidian
outsourcing L4D2 to TRS is a terrible idea
crisp cedar
literally nobody sane enough
potent wolf
ehhh valve internally have ported most of their game codes to s2 lol
source for that?
tacit flare
valve announces tf2 will be ported to unreal engine 4
TF2:Blue Shift
crisp cedar
noone sane enough would port tf2 to source 2
its genuinely so much work
thats why im saying literally any other source engine game would be easier to port to source 2 than tf2
spare obsidian
source for that?
let me find it
crisp cedar
which is why i wonder if they would consider outsourcing remaster work
but tbh
valve has literally never remastered their games
half life from 1998 still works fine on modern hardware these days
potent wolf
valve has literally never remastered their games
half life: source
crisp cedar
remasters usually come out as a way to port them to multiple platforms or to make them more accessible compared to their older counterparts
slender nexus
NOOO valve will totally make another jungle inferno soon
but they are also horri...
- a concerned passionate gamer
spare obsidian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uzNrDjnoHo i though i would never see mscoms in a video lol
limpid panther
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uzNrDjnoHo i though i would never see mscoms in...
who is mscoms
spare obsidian
evil twin of mcoms
tacit flare
mspaintcoms
spare obsidian
fr to, yeah mcoms appears in the video
potent wolf
reddit!
kind falcon
niterux
potent wolf
yeah...
potent wolf
I know
radiant merlin
left sand
source for that?
source 2 compatible with source 1 game code ever since HLA...
spare obsidian
cringe
spare obsidian
💀
crisp cedar
does someone has the leaked textures? lol
for what
kind falcon
for boar
radiant merlin
i want the original psd of the sentry buster
i can't work with this lol
i fixed the textures but the bomb never got a red version
i have a red buster texture in my download folder but idk who created it
potato or pineapple
radiant merlin
i think they just fixed the buster not being ubered or jarated
summer steeple
ah you're right
jagged pawn
anyone EXCITED for 9 hours from now?
evil
grim parcel
i love tf2
spare obsidian
what hud is that btw?
mystic turtle
I was literally going to ask the same question, but I didn't want to
mystic turtle
(and does it work on 'nux, I was going to stick with xHUD but it doesn't work there unless I go through every file to add the steam path on Linux)
wild grove
who's excited for tomorrow?!! ||HAHAHHAHAHAHA||
mystic turtle
y'all should just wait
At this rate, we'll be waiting for winter 2014
spare obsidian
let them cook
its a miracle they're using the testing depo after the fricking 2011 tf2 public beta lol
...like it should have been since after that beta
left sand
they consistently use it though
cursive peak
If they release it Monday, that'd be the 10th anniversary of the 2013 Summer Update.
spare obsidian
they consistently use it though
for vscript isn't?
cursive peak
They haven't touched the pre-release beta branch in forever.
spare obsidian
i mean, i think it was used from the transition from Source2007 to Source2013 isn't?
with steam releasing the steam pipe update
cursive peak
Can't remember, but they used it a few other times, too.
cursive peak
They have a couple of old demo compatibility branches.
jagged pawn
If they release it Monday, that'd be the 10th anniversary of the 2013 Summer Upd...
if they release it in august they could hit the 15 year anniversary of the heavy update and give us heavy update 2
cursive peak
spare obsidian
i mean
did jungle infermo change some engine things?
same goes with the smissmas ones
cursive peak
Dunno. I think they just broke demos from before their respective updates.
Probably balance changes.
spare obsidian
i've messing around with the code
and found out that there's code for the player model's eyes to blink
same on how it was in hl2 2004
cursive peak
slender nexus
anyone EXCITED for 9 hours from now?
how is everyone enjoying todays update ❓❓❓
great update
amazing update
jagged pawn
so true
slender nexus
love my new updates
left sand
how is everyone enjoying todays update ❓❓❓
dont blame me..
its not my fault it didnt release today...
jagged pawn
why did you delay it 😡
jagged pawn
it is genuinely weird that it didn't drop today based on everything we knew
I'm doubtful it'll release tomorrow just because from what I know they try to avoid dropping big things on their last day of the week so that they have time to fix potential issues? but I don't know if that actually a pattern in past updates or if people just say that as a trueism
wild grove
They can update any day they want.
slender nexus
its not my fault it didnt release today...
what are you talking about it did release today
wild grove
tuesday and thursday is just a suggestion.
left sand
I'm doubtful it'll release tomorrow just because from what I know they try to av...
theyve released big stuff on friday
even saturday
jagged pawn
damn I see
spare obsidian
winter 2025
jagged pawn
just went through every update since (and including) JI, here's the distribution by day of the week
- Sunday:
- Monday: II
- Tuesday: II
- Wednesday: III
- Thursday:
IIIIII - Friday: IIII
- Saturday:
so yeah you're right they like friday lol
radiant merlin
this fix is nice but it's hidden because the creator didn't submit their tax info
grim parcel
what hud is that btw?
hypnootizehud
https://comfig.app/huds/page/hypnotizehud/
grim parcel
(and does it work on 'nux, I was going to stick with xHUD but it doesn't work th...
and yeah i use it on linux all the time, works great
mystic turtle
and yeah i use it on linux all the time, works great
Oh, I actually used to use it, back when I still played TF2 on Windows
Noice
orchid sorrel
why did you delay it 😡
i eated it
spare obsidian
was it tasty?
wild grove
just went through every update since (and including) JI, here's the distribution...
Wait what? 4 times?!
jagged pawn
JI was one of them!
radiant merlin
someone liked my koth asteroid map lol
@left sand how much does r_3dsky affects performance?
summer steeple
i assume it depends on the skybox itself
summer steeple
just had a realization
the reason my workshop stuff is visible despite me not inputting tax stuff might be because it’s a map
and valve seemed to have the foresight that people might use the workshop for maps not necessarily for addition to the game, so people can subscribe to them
but items, which community fixes technically are, are only meant for addition to the game
so you do need to fill out all the bullshit because as far as the workshop system is concerned, you are submitting something with the intent of it getting added and you getting paid
wild grove
It's because supposedly maps don't have a revenue system so you'd have to rerelease the maps to do anything revenue related for your map which causes leaks.
mystic turtle
And the only thing that even counts as revenue for maps (aside from Valve themselves?) is map stamps and strange filters
wild grove
that is why sharkbay, steel, snowy rumford, frosty, and any past maps were leaked.
wild grove
And the only thing that even counts as revenue for maps (aside from Valve themse...
Also key sales.
mystic turtle
That too, yeah
left sand
who's ready for tonite?
jagged pawn
stop this madness
slender nexus
stop this madness
THIS IS SPARTA
jagged pawn
...
kind falcon
I hope it's tonight.
hope
left sand
i KNOW
wild grove
the allegation that this update was supposed to come out on June 20th-23rd.
but due to a revenue issue, it was delayed and wasn't resolved til last saturday.
wild grove
If I hear revenue issue, it's likely a map.
it's a allegation, I heard multiple people that work in content creation for the game talk about it.
kind falcon
wutville summer edition
glass musk
or today in general.
but it's friday
kind falcon
but it's friday
wild grove
but it's friday
Last year's update was on a friday.
spare obsidian
wild grove
Can you believe it guys, summer update, just hours away! Summer update in a couple of hours! Woohoo! I am so happy about this information!
Summer update just hours away oh wow! Can you believe it? Summer update just in a few hours! It got here so fast!
spare obsidian
idk why people wants the update so fast if i bet everyone is going to be disappointed because ain't the heavy update
wild grove
Nah, I know what I am getting, I am excited cause it aint themed stuff.
spare obsidian
same
glass musk
Last year's update was on a friday.
wasn't it friday EU time
like midnight or some shit
wild grove
not it was legit on a friday US time.
glass musk
huh
wild grove
which meant saturday update for EU.
left sand
also cs2 had an update at like 2am saturday so late night friday
cursive peak
If I were a dev, I'd try avoiding Friday updates so if something breaks no one is stuck working the weekend.
left sand
like JI
spare obsidian
bro this is not funny anymore
potent wolf
bro this is not funny anymore
are you excited?
spare obsidian
are you r/TF2?
potent wolf
lol
kind falcon
are you a redditor
potent wolf
are you a redditor
no, are you?
cursive peak
The new VNN doing daily hype posts.
potent wolf
slender nexus
god reddit has been dead for a week now
kind falcon
god reddit has been dead for a week now
reddit, the god
cursive peak
R/tf2 never came back after the protests.
left sand
👀
kind falcon
as a king of the hill, i agree
potent wolf
push
spare obsidian
🗿
spare obsidian
this joke is wearing off, it was funny for 2 days lol
this is the pain train hype
glass musk
mcoms I nearly lost my mind yesterday waiting for the update
spare obsidian
mcoms is slowly decending to the darkness
glass musk
spare obsidian
fun fact
every moment you guys mention when the update is out
it is delayed one day
that update stinks if its not the sex update
kind falcon
stinkdate
spare obsidian
question: if valve theorically brings back quick play it wouldn't fix the issues of casual has?
kind falcon
what would exactly change
kind falcon
if it doesn't have contracts I'm not interested
just invest into csgo
better gam financially
spare obsidian
what would exactly change
in my opinion, exactly nothing lol
MM is basically quick play v2 except there's not server hosting drama
during quick play era, there was a lot of dramas of some server owners not getting recommed by quick play
kind falcon
gigaupdate:
the only map in competitive is 2fort
spare obsidian
true!
spare obsidian
https://youtu.be/VP7FGNPS86U robin walker is being interview in the FPS documentary
jagged pawn
Mcoms McVicker
spare obsidian
i think she would unironically hate being called like that lol
summer steeple
bad news tf2 fans
i just opened up powerhouse
ruined
also this timecard prop is clipping with the wall behind it
potent wolf
🙀
terrible map ||some people think powerhouse actually sucks, i think it's a great map ||
kind falcon
terrible map ||some people think powerhouse actually sucks, i think it's a great...
join the steam group bro
potent wolf
what steam group
kind falcon
what steam group
you can figure it out
potent wolf
spare obsidian
ruined
literally unplayable
also fun fact about the baked AOs in almost every tf2 texture
they're not in the same size has the main texture sheet
lol
summer steeple
wh-what
formal dew
i got the 143 powerhouse rounds achivement legit
grim parcel
most mentally stable tf2ber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLfBJp8WraM
summer steeple
i don't think the game uses separate AO textures except for war paint weapons
usually its baked into the diffuse texture
spare obsidian
most mentally stable tf2ber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLfBJp8WraM
before MyM was still the same shit lol
quick play had its fair share of issues people that says is perfect they're either on denail or dumb
grim parcel
yeah that's the same thing i thought too
spare obsidian
and more since server owners did get pissed because literally having a small plugin for like votes automatically blacklisted their server for quickplay lol
grim parcel
it starts with that usual argument that quick play would've just fixed everything or whatever
summer steeple
MyM launch was awful but casual is still miles better than quick play
small sirenBOT
grim parcel
but then it goes from 0 to 100 so fast
spare obsidian
yeah lol, the issue of quickplay is someone's server be always recommended
it did have good intentions
but people has to do what people do
grim parcel
only the most boomer, stubborn tf2 players hate casual this much
and ngl, most community servers are kinda ass
summer steeple
"people leave after every game in casual"
like sure, people still do that
but games fill up quick
and you don't need to
spare obsidian
isn't like that happened in quickplay
summer steeple
its mostly muscle memory after MyM's launch
spare obsidian
i was during the quickplay era
and i can condifently say people do leave a lot
with MyM the drop rates where reduces by like a fraction
formal dew
casual would be much better if you could switch teams, autobalance didnt occur if there's less than one minute on the match clock, and picking the same map didnt require a reload
spare obsidian
basically have the same vote options you could do in quickplay
formal dew
but i'd imagine the matchmaking client would require a significant overhaul to accept loadless new matches
spare obsidian
ehh i mean
its basically a server
that's put on hybernation when its empty
its basically what face-it tf2 servers do
i just wish casual carry over the things that you could do in quickplay
like voting for the next map before the round ends
and having the same voting options like i say
cursive peak
Quickplay would've been more welcome had it not initially defaulted to excluding community servers.
Matchmaking in any game is inherently soulless.
No way to grow a community with matchmaking.
Shounic says it a lot better than I can.
formal dew
halo 2 was a turning point in video games
spare obsidian
Quickplay would've been more welcome had it not initially defaulted to excluding...
the problem is also server owners did absoluty everything to be always recommended
formal dew
guy who goes back in time to bomb xbox live servers
spare obsidian
there where cases people do infact bough other servers
just so they can get recommended
denying this is utterly denail
summer steeple
(denial*)
cursive peak
Had Valve bothered moderating the QP servers it would've been fine.
spare obsidian
because i do remenber a server that i always get that literally was always 2fort
or the other funny PL map
cursive peak
I also never even used QP.
spare obsidian
like quickplay would always recommended me those type of server to the point it gets exausting lol
cursive peak
I had my favorite servers saved in the server browser.
Matchmaking is just 24 assholes thrown together for a short time. There's no way to develop connections in that time.
spare obsidian
yeah and i can't denny it
the only solution is valve forcefully adding timers
like CTF really needs to use the stalemate
cursive peak
Or a return to community servers.
Playing on the same servers gives you time to build connections with the regulars.
spare obsidian
i mean there's already a community server for 24/7 2fort lol
cursive peak
No one gives a fuck about 2fort.
spare obsidian
are you sure about that?
formal dew
commercialized big box products need a steady, fungible, and standardized point of access for the lowest common denominator
spare obsidian
you literally said that
spare obsidian
Matchmaking is just 24 assholes thrown together for a short time. There's no way...
.
formal dew
matchmaking was a casuality of the capitalist process
cursive peak
2fort is a fucking joke map.
spare obsidian
even a joke map do deserve a rework lol
obv people would be pissed if it was reworked
cursive peak
Take a look at community servers like Fucked in the Head or The Furry Pound for what they should be.
spare obsidian
you can't delete history without robin walker going into house and removing your liver
cursive peak
I don't give a fuck about your shit joke.
spare obsidian
bruh why are you mad lol
cursive peak
Because I'm having a serious conversation and you're being a shitter.
So I'm shutting down your shit jokes.
spare obsidian
<@&760686740620312608>
cursive peak
Now who's mad?
summer steeple
i'm not sure why you pinged mods for this
formal dew
tf2 is an indelible part of meme culture
spare obsidian
Now who's mad?
apparently you
"serius discussion" since when this chat was about being serius
summer steeple
alright lets both take a step back
spare obsidian
no let me beat the fuck this dude
summer steeple
no
hoary geyser
steamworks why are you always so angry lok
cursive peak
I'm not here to fucking meme.
spare obsidian
you're in the wrong server doe
hoary geyser
intense tf2 discussions
formal dew
i'm here bc i like knowing more about the technical parts of the game
cursive peak
The fact your brain is melted by memes is a you problem.
spare obsidian
the fact that you're pissed by a meme really says alot about your shitty personality
:)
summer steeple
to be honest, I am more inclined to side with steamworks here
lean cove
the fact that you're pissed by a meme really says alot about your shitty persona...
aint no way this is part of a "normal discussion" man
grim parcel
Playing on the same servers gives you time to build connections with the regular...
you can still do that, casual don't stop you
hoary geyser
brody why did you ping the moderators for this lol
lean cove
you really should just take a step back here
spare obsidian
bro, it was just a one of joke tf the need to be mad
i'm not gonna babysit my way of talk
if you don't like there's a block button
hoary geyser
we should lock brody and steamworks in a room until they work out their differences
cursive peak
Let's see how far you get in life throwing jokes into serious talk.
lean cove
i dunno man I think saying people have a shitty personality isn't really doing you any good
spare obsidian
and i don't really care tbh
summer steeple
no let me beat the fuck this dude
also this
grim parcel
we should lock brody and steamworks in a room until they work out their differen...
the room needs to be 2fort
spare obsidian
either way i was literally doing a joke to append context to what i said but since jokes are offensive to people
summer steeple
it ain't about that
you were shut down, and steamworks told you why they shut you down
but you wanted to push because no serious convo allowed i guess?
hoary geyser
I don't think Steamworks' reaction was very appropriate
spare obsidian
never said serius convos where allowed, what i pointed is getting pissed over a "offensive" joke
fiend you really don't see the elephan in the room like derp did
summer steeple
i'm just saying that you really look like you're trying to push for a reaction
you wanting to "beat" steamworks
and i think you should both take a step back
steamworks already did, as you can see they're not responding anymore
spare obsidian
either way, i said what i said its already dead horse anyways
small sirenBOT
limpid panther
if you don't like there's a block button
I agree, yet you called mods because he said he didn't give a fuck? If you think jokes are allowed surely you can take a fuck or two
cursive peak
I'm also walking around a store looking at shit.
potent wolf
either way, i said what i said its already dead horse anyways
then stop.
limpid panther
Let's see how far you get in life throwing jokes into serious talk.
tone is hard to convey over words, have a little more patience dude
potent wolf
there's no reason to make such a big deal out of all this
limpid panther
yall should just stop typing for a while an leave this as it is
grim parcel
getting upset over someone having a differing view over a game (that's still pretty valid when we're talking about a decently silly game) isn't great, but neither is calling someone else's personality shit or saying you want to beat them 
limpid panther
I'm tired of small arguments spiraling out of control because people keep throwing their hat in the ring repeatedly
still, I did throw mine in, so I guess I'm part of the problem
spare obsidian
either way i'm cool now, what i was yeah, MyM isn't perfect but at least is servisable when it wasn't day 1
i remenber when day 1 MyM really have a lot of funny bugs and server crashes
spare obsidian
🤨
kind falcon
do not ping @ moderators we are busy in staff rp furry
private is empty bro
summer steeple
real
hoary geyser
I think this server may need group therapy
spare obsidian
this is a TF2 server are you expecting mentality stable people?
hoary geyser
There seems to be a lot of held-back trauma
spare obsidian
that's what you want us to believe
summer steeple
@unborn pecan do you want me to delete this slander
kind falcon
salad
summer steeple
only if hurricane doesn't want me to lie about our secret dms
grim parcel
i knew hurricane was into furry rp
summer steeple
ok gone
spare obsidian
its too late
summer steeple
i will not lie about you anymore
unborn pecan
swag
spare obsidian
it is been archive in archive dot com
kind falcon
guys they're censoring the truth
what truth
spare obsidian
mods have furry rp channel,,,,,,
limpid panther
photo or didn't happen
spare obsidian
😭
spare obsidian
!!!!!
grim parcel
fake until i get invited
spare obsidian
omg who's saying the truth 😭
kind falcon
ban everyone.
hoary geyser
replay is that an illegal discord client
left sand
@spare obsidian youre consistently a bad presence on the server, can you quit it
summer steeple
i usually have it muted :)
kind falcon
@spare obsidian can you stop replying to my messages i feel that my opinion is invalidated when you do
potent wolf
replay is that an illegal discord client
No i just have access to it
kind falcon
hoary geyser
no I'm talking about the reactions
left sand
https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gif-26067066
potent wolf
https://tenor.com/view/cat-doe-how-is-this-man-how-is-this-cat-he-be-starring-do...
coms that's a seal...
left sand
kind falcon
https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-cats-shower-time-gif-11678292
bro on a spa
grim parcel
grim parcel
HOGGG RIIIIDAHHHHH
potent wolf
OMG
unborn pecan
me in the school caf
grim parcel
when is tf2 going to get ported to clash royale mcoms
small sirenBOT
unborn pecan
when is tf2 going to get ported to clash royale mcoms
whenever clash royale gets a pc port
summer steeple
bluestacks
grim parcel
whenever clash royale gets a pc port
clash royale but bad 😭
formal dew
tf2 amirite
grim parcel
WE NEED MOBILE FIRST DEVELOPMENT
unborn pecan
😡 die
formal dew
certainly a game of all time
potent wolf
<:trollfig:938154442484777111>
unborn pecan
Clash Royale is fire on the pc in class
grim parcel
tf2 really is a game tbh
kind falcon
true, i like titanfall
grim parcel
https://tenor.com/view/cat-fail-fall-jump-oops-gif-17945170
a slight miscalculation
kind falcon
can someone gift me on steam? i give you one dolar
potent wolf
nooo the cat exploded 😭
unborn pecan
owned
grim parcel
potent wolf
ah, that's good to know
grim parcel
noob cat down