Minecraft Megathread - fun detected

[hollow bobcat]

that's genuinely better criticism than pretty much anything i've seen in this channel

though with the roblox comparisions it's a low bar

[halcyon depot]

It's not bad

At least on linux, since it uses the x86 android binary

For macos, I think they end up using Angle

Since opengl es

[hollow bobcat]

that is bad

i know nothing natively supports linux nowadays but like

when you gotta use an android emulator to play a game :/

it's not fun and like the one time i'll say java is just objectively better

[halcyon depot]

fr

Like

Besides payment processing

the linux version is basically 99% done

[halcyon depot]

prismlauncher 8.4 is out....

[waxen kelp]

java also sucks on mac

theres like 4 mods you should install that fixes stuff about macs

[limpid radish]

mojang's fault

this time actually

[summer rampart]

To be honest i don't think gaming supports mac os, it's the worst os and the hardware isn't great either. I don't even know if blender supports it.

[halcyon depot]

Blender does

[acoustic relic]

p soon mac gaming is probably gonna go the Linux route

don't make native binaries, just rely on moltenVK

[hollow bobcat]

lmao

[hollow bobcat]

it already is. apple has a whole toolkit now that's basically just wine

[halcyon depot]

Yup

God bless wine

[oak acorn]

except moltenvk sucks compared to a full driver

[halcyon depot]

True

Doesn't support vulkan 1.3

Nor the latest dxvk

[fierce mural]

My friends want to play a new campaing in minecraft

but this time lightly modded

think not so deep expansions and tasteful enhancements to base-game

and I'm their host

but I've been out of the loop when it comes to modding for a long time

what is the current state of modding frameworks like forge and fabric? Is there a package manager to help me build something up serverside?

[halcyon depot]

PrismLauncher for like

Client-side

You can create a prismlauncher instance and send it to your friends with all the mods in it

also @hollow bobcat

would know more

[oak acorn]

I don't use anything for server side management, but if you do find something lmk

[fierce mural]

this is the thing: we are still gonna create our own modpack, so I'm trying to inform myself about the frameworks that people are using, stability and feuds going on that might get in my way

[oak acorn]

the closest thing I've seen are modpacks that provide a server pack that you drop in

[fierce mural]

we are aiming for 1.21 btw

[oak acorn]

most game-changing mods are still on forge as far as I can tell, fabric plugins tend to not be as intrusive?

[hollow bobcat]

i like packwiz

works anywhere, server and client side

you just use a git repo and a simple client tool

[oak acorn]

oh that's super cool

[hollow bobcat]

(and you can also make prism instance zips with it, which is nice)

https://packwiz.infra.link/

[fierce mural]

I see that there is more involved stuff like Create and other dimentions and stuff on Fabric now, that got me more intereste in it because we don't really wanna do anything "total conversion" style

[halcyon depot]

fabric plugins are more of quality of life

Also, you should check out NeoForge?

[hollow bobcat]

doesn't work for spigot plugins though i don't think

[halcyon depot]

Forge was forked and all the devs left

except for one dev

[fierce mural]

our main server makes extensive use of spigot plugins, but since this one is gonna be separate, I don't think I will need much

also it's gonna run on my main machine, so I don't even need much in the way of optimizations

[fierce mural]

thanks! This is the kind of info I was after really

these kinds of "heads up!" things

[fierce mural]

thanks! this looks pretty nice!

[halcyon depot]

np

[hidden moat]

imo if you do create you’re ought to do steampunk/medieval stuff

[fierce mural]

does curseforge have any way to discern mods that are client only, server only or both?

[limpid radish]

no

just use modrinth

[halcyon depot]

idk, it should be in the mod description page, no?

[fierce mural]

erm
found something kinda weird

yesterday I was setting up a podman container from the image that integrates well with this tool

and all was working well. I finished for the night and went to sleep

now when I try to import the curseforge modpack just the same as I was doing before... it errors out trying to read a podman volume?

open .local/share/containers/storage/overlay/22c9187a6aaf67e9ca495adeaecaf5754481976913c3eb92c44ad53436ee5ace/diff/var/lib/apt/lists/partial: permission denied

why would it be doing that? the only thing the tool did in relation to podman was serve it a pack.toml through packwiz's integrated web server

so then I strace packwiz (which I never did so I might be misunderstanding something)

and it's accessing random files inside various dot folders in my home directory

.cache/pre-commit , .local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/plotly, .cargo/registry/src/index.crates.io-6f17d22bba15001f/openssl-src-111.25.3+1.1.1t/openssl/ms, .cache/pre-commit/repo6p0sfvf2/py_env-python3.10/lib/python3.10/site-packages/setuptools/command

did I just get pwned by packwiz or one of it's dependencies?

I wanted to sanity check all of this with you guys before I open an issue

[hollow bobcat]

could be an selinux error maybe?

[fierce mural]

I found the problem

there was a codepath that led it to create a index.toml file in the directory where the binary was executed from

[hollow bobcat]

lmao

[fierce mural]

then it eventually does filepath.WalkDir() on that directory

because it thinks it's the root directory of the modpack

so it looks through the whole fucking home dir if you happen to launch a new terminal and use the tool from there

thank god it doesn't modify anything

I'm gonna write an issue now

[tardy vigil]

after 4 years, bundles are finally coming to the next version of minecraft

it took them 4 years to figure out a ui for bundles that would work across all devices

which is what held back an already finished feature from fully releasing in java lol

for fouuuuurrr yearsss

[limpid radish]

"mojang isnt incompetent" 🤓

[halcyon depot]

Mojang moment

[halcyon depot]

Shaders make Wynncraft look so cool

This is Complementary: ReImagined

[hidden moat]

Minecraft Megathread - hypixel brainrot

[fierce mural]

his room aint even that bad

[limpid radish]

me

[sleek thicket]

what page should i use for playing with friends?

aternos is kinda weird

[limpid radish]

https://essential.gg/ works pretty well

[waxen kelp]

essential isnt a good idea with modded

in vanilla its great

[limpid radish]

ive used it fine on modded

[sleek thicket]

does it work in "offline" accounts?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[limpid radish]

NO

https://tenor.com/view/robotnik-eggman-aosth-sonic-the-gif-13252938

[waxen kelp]

corrupts chunks

[limpid radish]

???

[waxen kelp]

theres other ways for offline

[limpid radish]

i have literally never had essential corrupt chunks idk if that's even possible on modern minecraft

it definitely doesnt mess with chunk saving or loading mechanisms

at worst you will get network packet issues due to using quilt or the game will crash on startup because you are using a modpack created by lunapixelstudios which has a special mod to cause a fake crash if you are using essential

[waxen kelp]

nah not lunapixel, the lan networking is weird and some mods simply dont support that

[limpid radish]

it is lunapixel

they specifically have a mod to stop it from working with essential

[sleek thicket]

can you say them please

[waxen kelp]

I dont know the list sadly

but I know refined storage has an issue with it

mekanism used to have it, recently got fixed

[waxen kelp]

I dont play lps packs, I know the devs and make fun of devs especially foe that tho

using lan system to broadcast online is a bad idea tho

[drowsy bone]

*using lan system

to broadcast online is a

bad idea tho*

- polarite

[waxen kelp]

thats why I dont suggest ngrok lan support mods

[limpid radish]

there's no reason it would be

every mod that has functionality simular to essential's multiplayer uses the lan system

[waxen kelp]

exactly, thats why I wouldnt suggest them

lan system since 1.7~ era is buggy

[limpid radish]

???

[waxen kelp]

maybe even earlier

[limpid radish]

no?

ive never had any problems with it at all

[waxen kelp]

so lucky

[limpid radish]

u r actually crazy and spreading lies you are a liar

[waxen kelp]

I had issues with it even popular packs like valhelsia

[drowsy bone]

*I had issues with

it even popular packs

like valhelsia*

- polarite

[waxen kelp]

valhelsia team often suggests hosting a local server over essentials or lan

so it isnt only a me thing

you are still free to do whatever you want I mean, I use essential for friend system or vanilla tier stuff

but heavily modded is a no go imo

[tardy vigil]

dont use essentials lmao

actually dont like ever use essentials

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1075937306986422309/1125834601751916645/image.png?ex=669f39ee&is=669de86e&hm=e511e3456e9dd57d9923c7bad0619a94065174633bd487e24145dedd65674652&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=960&height=540

this shit has like the

gmod server donor shop

buy the pedobear trail

[hidden moat]

lan

or lan over the internet. hamachi, radmin vpn

[stoic herald]

e4mc works pretty well

and isn't proprietary like essentials

[limpid radish]

e4mc doesnt work for me

ive tried using e4mc and world host before and neither of them worked only essential worked

[tardy vigil]

e4mc works perfectly for me

https://modrinth.com/mod/e4mc

i told you to get prismlauncher

so uh

get this mod

as soon as you start a singleplayer game itll host it as a game (i think)

and players will be able to join via ip/link

[hidden moat]

prismlauncher does not like Piracy.

[tardy vigil]

i already sent them the cracked prismlauncher

[hidden moat]

wow

sharing virus

[waxen kelp]

its on github

I rather push cracked prism instead of everyone using that virus miner tlauncher

[tardy vigil]

lmao dont use that shit

[hidden moat]

sorry just saying that its on github is not enough

[waxen kelp]

you can just check the changes from base

its a fork

[onyx vortex]

piracy isn't allowed in this server

this isn't a warez site

[waxen kelp]

yep

thats why I rather not share such work

[tardy vigil]

oh right

well

i didnt share any links!

[sleek thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-by-max-sword-gif-14806395

i did

alttp is my favorite Link tbh

[summer rampart]

I kinda just wanna put together a small modpack to see how big of a dam i could make.

Would be cool just to attempt to empty an ocean.

Like if minecraft's water worked like terraria's.

[limpid radish]

is this modpack good

[waxen kelp]

do you enjoy it? if so, yeah!

I mean they are sponsored by bisect fuck that

other than that yeah!

[thin whale]

I am just a few days away from getting the atm star

I just need to wait a lot

[thin whale]

My game got corrupt lol

[limpid radish]

dungeon loot

[waxen kelp]

cute

[limpid radish]

I swear to god if this stupid fuck falls onto my crops again im going to fucking kill him im going to fucking kill this guy chop his head open with an axe like patrick fucking bateman

[thin whale]

finally made it, after 4 years c:

the atm star

[sleek thicket]

what's that?

[thin whale]

allthemods 6

[limpid radish]

the popular alternative to curseforge, modrinth, has pushed a ui update that ruined fucking everything

they had to release a panic patch to this new ui to restore the old header because the new header was so bad

PLEASE GET OUR APP AND GIVE US SUBSCRIPTION PLEASE WE BEG YOU!!!!!!!!!!

shit still only supports minecraft java and NO COMMENTS

every single time you download a mod it begs you to please get our app!!!

all of the (important) side bar page content is pushed down by a new ad box

that begs you to get their subscription if you have an ad blocker

this is actually the shittest update ever

@halcyon depot thoughts?

[halcyon depot]

I don't use the website

I use prismlauncher

[limpid radish]

i use prism launcher but the website is still essential for browsing

[hidden moat]

just add that to the adblock rules

lol

##.ad-parent

[hollow bobcat]

im surprised that's not in ublock already

[oak acorn]

seethe

[sleek thicket]

installing mods in that is so difficult

[limpid radish]

noob

[waxen kelp]

no way modrinth turned evil?

just fired ALL their developers

and enabled this UI that ruined whole experience

be curseforge
ruin your website 4 times over 13 years
competition shoots themselves in foot more times
whats this strategy called?

[limpid radish]

fr?

[waxen kelp]

that was few months ago I believe, they were like, we will just be open and just pay people and server with ads

[tardy vigil]

i love overreacting to mild inconveniences

[hollow bobcat]

they didn’t fire all their developers

they downsized because they went independent again

there are still multiple developers (who were the main people working on things like the website) working full time

[limpid radish]

clearly they fired the entire ui designer team

[hollow bobcat]

hard situation to win tbh. community doesn’t like you being backed by investors, community doesn’t like it when you tried to make it as an independent company

[hollow bobcat]

what’s so bad about the new ui?

worst part is like maybe the sidebar being on the right now

but i think that got moved back to the left

[limpid radish]

everything

everything takes more clicks

more scrolling

[hollow bobcat]

what takes more clicks?

[limpid radish]

more popups trying to avoid the fucking modrinth launcher

[hollow bobcat]

downloading is a lot faster now

[limpid radish]

ok so before when you were on a mod page

you could just

[hollow bobcat]

you don’t need to scroll through an endless list of versions just to find something

[limpid radish]

click one of the featured versions

and then click download

now you have to click on the versions page

there's no more featured versions

if you click the download button directly you have to manually select the game version and loader

also now you have to scroll past giant ad boxes on the side bar to reach the bottom stuff

instead of the tiny little banners that barely took any space

[limpid radish]

also they had this header for a while where you had to click to get to mods

fucking awful man

there is literally nothing that this new ui does better than the old one and it's uglier

[limpid radish]

yes

it opens a popup

wheree you have to manually select the version and loader

instead of just clicking it on the side

[hollow bobcat]

they were bad

[limpid radish]

ok man im gonna kill yo

[hollow bobcat]

the only reason featured versions existed was to be a link towards the latest release for the latest mc version

being able to just select any game version and get the best file is way more useful

[limpid radish]

gotta love how this button is also basically just an advertisement to download the ad ridden mod launcher that does everything worse than prism launcher

[hollow bobcat]

and if you still want to go scrolling through version files, you can

nothing stops you

[limpid radish]

You didnt have to select the game version before you could just click the download you wanted in the featured versions

[hollow bobcat]

what

[limpid radish]

also featured versions let mod authors basically hint at what was and wasn't supported in terms of future updates

[hollow bobcat]

you still had to look for the game versions???

[limpid radish]

????

no they were on the side

[hollow bobcat]

yes when looking at featured versions, you had to make sure it was the right file for your game version

[limpid radish]

the latest supported versions would be on the side of the page in the supported versions and then you just click the version you want

[hollow bobcat]

which is infinitely better than...clicking a download button
and then the game version

[limpid radish]

so it takes more clicks

it takes like

4 more clicks than before

if you want to download 1.21 fabric api

[hollow bobcat]

it literally only takes 4 clicks to download a mod right now at all

what are you talking about

[limpid radish]

instead of 2

[hollow bobcat]

in the case that the featured version was for your game version, sure

but that's still not 4 more clicks

idk where you got that

you also still can do 2 click downloads in the new ui

go to version files -> hit download button for your version

same exact thing

[limpid radish]

i see

[waxen kelp]

niterux is overreacting but yes I do rather old ui

I hope I can get used to it

even if I cant, its better than curseforge and their #competitive-digging-archived tier policies/supports

[tardy vigil]

i really dont like curseforge because its shit

they have modloaders and game versions in the same category

all they have to do is seperate these two to turn curseforge into a good site

[waxen kelp]

I really dont like curseforge because of their recent statements over irl politics

[tardy vigil]

but it took them too long and modrinth did it

[halcyon depot]

CurseForge's parent company is a direct IDF supporter

[tardy vigil]

and immediately became the only good site

[waxen kelp]

^

[tardy vigil]

for minecraft mods

oh that too

[halcyon depot]

https://www.tumblr.com/ranidspace/732982654482497536?source=share

[waxen kelp]

correct

[tardy vigil]

in any case

WAIT THEY CHANGED IT???

[waxen kelp]

also not shove ads on every corner and hiding ui elements unless youre on old style would be cool

[tardy vigil]

WTF

they actually made

curseforge useful

but too late

[waxen kelp]

thats been a thing since more than a year

[waxen kelp]

nonetheless, this still exists.

[limpid radish]

this isnt real

unless nitter is missing some tweets

[halcyon depot]

It was deleted

Obviously

[hidden moat]

@fierce mural thoughts?

[waxen kelp]

it is real I saw the actual thing

they then deleted it and replaced it with the uhhh iLf? or something that is a branch of idf

BEFORE EDIT: https://web.archive.org/web/20231009202055/https://www.overwolf.com/supportidf/#who-we-are

AFTER EDIT: https://web.archive.org/web/20231021163249/https://www.overwolf.com/supportidf/#who-we-are

CURRENT PAGE: https://www.overwolf.com/supportidf/#who-we-are

here is the wayback for their official page announcement

obviously they deleted it after minecraft modders noticed that... genocide is bad

@limpid radish :3

[limpid radish]

broooooooooo

💀

[waxen kelp]

:')

I would love having a better modrinth but honestly I rather not play modded instead of funding a single bullet for them

[limpid radish]

comfigmods when

[waxen kelp]

good question

[acoustic relic]

comfigies,,, I know what we're gonna do today

[waxen kelp]

mcoms warned us in announcements

Im sorry master coms I will be better

[limpid radish]

https://youtu.be/6Vq_SCBRbZo

we need this person to reanimate the whole movie to make it watchable

[tardy vigil]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/the-future-of-minecrafts-development

Instead of providing one free update during the summer, as we’ve done in the past, we’ll now be releasing a number of free game drops throughout the year. These game drops will vary in size and will bring you features to explore more frequently.

We’re changing the format for Minecraft Live, and retiring the mob vote, to bring you something new. Instead of doing one show per year (usually in October) - Minecraft Live will now become a more focussed broadcast, and it will happen twice per year. Each show will be packed with everything you need to know about the latest features we’re working on, what’s coming into testing, and the newest news from across the Minecraft franchise.

[oak acorn]

idk why but the url made me think it was gonna be "we're gonna stop working on minecraft lolol"

[limpid radish]

caves and cliffs tooooo hawd >~<

-some fuckass mojang employee

[tardy vigil]

niterux like anything challenge (impossible)

i think this is good

especially with mob votes gone

[limpid radish]

it'strue

how about release big updates more frequently instead of being so damn slow!!!

be like deadlock...

an ddota 2

[hollow bobcat]

i need as much content you can make as fast as possible but it better not be slop!

[limpid radish]

all theyve been adding is slop anywayss

into minecraft

sniffer

[lean imp]

lmao

[oak acorn]

they should change their development plans so each new version goes in reverse instead

so 1.22 returns to 1.20, 1.23 returns to 1.19, 1.30 we'd be back at 1.13, etc

I think they should try this

[halcyon depot]

awesome

[sleek thicket]

that's so true, but at the same he criticizes everything the same way sooo, yk

[sleek thicket]

what?

[limpid radish]

Constant large updates

so many updates they stopped writing changelogs after september 1st

[sleek thicket]

yeah but Deadlock is new

[limpid radish]

if mojang loved their game and cared about it they would just make constant large updates

[sleek thicket]

we all thought the same thing

[tardy vigil]

? they havent released an update worthy making changelogs about since that

the other updates are like client fixes

[limpid radish]

wrog

358mb update has to mean something...

[sleek thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/sack-clan-call-of-duty-cod-black-ops-modern-warfare-gif-26557362

[waxen kelp]

awful change

I hate how they manage to break every single mod loader with every minor update

and when fabric updates the mods are still broken

why would you implement 7 new mob types in a small update... by basic sense the third numeral is for small bugfixes that are introduced with the latest update

they are doing stuff like changing how villagers work and core gameplay changes in minor updates that really gets on my nerves

[fierce mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGCPI5d5NBk

holy shit

[limpid radish]

there aint no way this aint gonna get patched out this would be so easy to use to crash servers...

[halcyon pewter]

@limpid radish has leveled up! (57 ➜ 58)

[fierce mural]

nah, just have it be a switch in paper or whatever kids are using to host servers these days

[waxen kelp]

purpur, still same thing

fork of a fork of a fork of a fork

theres also forks of purpur but they are experimental

rayworks does amazing shit

I use his systems on several places in my smp

[limpid radish]

https://x.com/EvboYT/status/1843113068479631786

Evbo (@EvboYT) on X

Last year, someone came to me and asked if I would be the director, producer, executive producer, scriptwriter, and lead actor for their movie. A Minecraft Movie, they called it. I apologized and said I was busy working on an indie film, something called…..parkour civilization…

Twitter · Oct 7, 2024, 2:16 AM

[limpid radish]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour_Civilization

[limpid radish]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32465555/

[oak acorn]

8.8 is well deserved

[weary basalt]

yay or nay? been a while since i last built something original

i don't like the wood roof tbh

[waxen kelp]

wood roof is nay

you can try mixing up a bit of copper and deepslate variants

[drowsy bone]

*you can try mixing

up a bit of copper and

deeslate variants*

- polarite

[waxen kelp]

bad bot

[weary basalt]

omg copper!! thx for reminding me

[waxen kelp]

you're welcome, dont forget to use waxed one

[weary basalt]

also the tower stone roof is kinda uneven

[waxen kelp]

you should install the build helper mod

[weary basalt]

bedrock

[waxen kelp]

that can be used to visualize circles or-

[waxen kelp]

oh.

[weary basalt]

the structure itself is symmetrical but it looks weird from some angles

im clueless on tower roofs tbh

[waxen kelp]

its not a full circular shape instead it has sides popping up

you can replace those with a darker element to support the shading more

[weary basalt]

oh what if i replace some stairs with slabs

bc i can't see deepslate working, it's way too dark

[waxen kelp]

mix and mash

[weary basalt]

@waxen kelp looks ass unfortunately

[waxen kelp]

try mixinh blockd with tiles

mix up slightly weathered ones

needs detailing

logs should get some support from bamboos amd beehive blocks

[weary basalt]

hmmm my world is not yet at a point where i can dish out packs of bee wax

[waxen kelp]

its fsirly easy to automate

nonetheless bambo is good

[weary basalt]

im thinking the roof frame as a stone brick combination for consistency with the tower, then another material for filling in

hold on aria math is playing rn i need to enjoy this

the green looks interesting though

i could mix in some cracked stone and vines or something

or mayhaps just regular deepslate as you suggested

[onyx vortex]

is there a reason youre using default?

over like any builder oriented pack?

thats typically what builders do

and how they get their homes looking nice

[weary basalt]

me?

trying to understand what word got blocked there

[onyx vortex]

for linking url

"fork" hyperlink

[hollow bobcat]

why are hyperlinks still disabled

[onyx vortex]

why would they be enabled

[hollow bobcat]

because they're cool

[acoustic relic]

hyper is cool

rainbow dash

[hidden moat]

Sorry, mcoms here is not a big fan of the hyper library.

[drowsy bone]

*Sorry, mcoms here

is not a big fan of the

hyper library.*

- lowrule

[waxen kelp]

skill isnt finding your shit build look nice, its that your build looking good even without shaders or texture packs

[onyx vortex]

i didnt mean it to say making a shit build look nice

im just saying, that usually you wont get perfect looks with the default pack because it isnt designed to be complimentary

[hollow bobcat]

i bet she's a big async-h1 fun

surf for life vro

[waxen kelp]

thats fair, doesn't mean one can't do that tho, I play purely with some UI texturepacks and connected textures

after recent updates they make textures to be a lot more nicer to look at

... recent update being released 7 or so years ago :s

[waxen kelp]

you are still decreasing the noise, add some lightly weathered ones to some parts to make it look more natural

[hidden moat]

whar?

Minecraft Megathread - welcome, bundles

[waxen kelp]

she is asking why dont we use 512x ultra builders dream pack and RTX pack that makes your game run 2 frames per decade

[weary basalt]

default pack isn't "complimentary" when literally part of the skill is finding blocks that look good anyway imo

[waxen kelp]

can we change this channels name to Non-competitive digging, opposed to the competitive digging?

[weary basalt]

@waxen kelp i kinda fw deepslate mixing

[waxen kelp]

add some cobble patches

[weary basalt]

they added tuff blocks too?!!?

[weary basalt]

i need to find a way to break up the simple wood pattern

[waxen kelp]

cobbled deepslate*

[waxen kelp]

try vertical layering of oak logs(not stripped) and spruce stairs

[weary basalt]

the wood walls i mean

[weary basalt]

bruh...

[waxen kelp]

yes I know

layer them with oak logs and spruce stairs flat

so theres somewhat of a depth

[weary basalt]

hm ok

[waxen kelp]

by the way you can try angling the middle part of roof a bit inwards to give it more natural look

[weary basalt]

wha tdo you mea

the stone brick ridge on top?

[waxen kelp]

make it concave a bit

[weary basalt]

ohhh yes i know whaT u mean

[waxen kelp]

so it doesnt look as "cut flat"

[weary basalt]

like this?

[waxen kelp]

make roof concave

a little bit angled inside

its hard to explain Im.sure you saw some stuff from 2014 medieval buildings

[weary basalt]

omg...

[hidden moat]

nothing that you can do with a blank wall

add some windoze

Minecraft Megathread - builders league, united

[weary basalt]

this?

[waxen kelp]

yep

[weary basalt]

the way i see it the guy just raised up the roof framing in that image

the deeplsate itself is still flat

so that's what im gonna try

[waxen kelp]

hmmm thats a way to do it

I kinda feel like using cyan and aqua coloured stuff for a roof and white walls

elven style builds seem really fancy to me

but I have several projects going on in my smp that I cant start another one lmao

[weary basalt]

i myself try not to obsess over the details too much

building is only one facet of the minecraft experience

and focusing too much on one thing is what i found burned me out in the past

OMG THAT'S IT @tardy vigil‼️ I CANT FOCUS TOO MUCH ON ONE THING ELSE I LOSE INTEREST

[waxen kelp]

I got nothing better to do in my SMP

I build shit

[hidden moat]

dicaffeine malate 250mg
magnesium malate 300mg
amphetamine 20mg

[waxen kelp]

wha

please dont give anyone 300mgs of magnesium malate

ty

[hidden moat]

why not vro

[waxen kelp]

death bad

[weary basalt]

bro is the minecraf witch

[hidden moat]

oh my bad

right

mcg

[onyx vortex]

?

this is just sad lol

i never said that

[waxen kelp]

?

Im just jokiiiing

but yeah Im honest about vanilla textures being better case for building

many texture packs have a theme it revolves around

either modern, middle age, fresh, smooth etc

but minecraft textures just feel... minecraft? not sure if that makes sense

its style is in itself thats left to player to discover

[onyx vortex]

i mean the special builder packs which are only slight adjustments

[waxen kelp]

for shaders I believe its a totally different story, it adds up over your choice of texturepack, modern texturepacks go along with more bright/white/light themes while middle age builds tend to be more warm, dark and gritty

[onyx vortex]

maybe they don't exist nowadays but probably before the programming art update, there were some updated vanilla ones meant for builders

[waxen kelp]

like builders qol shader pack?

changing glass and some fixes on rendering

[waxen kelp]

yeah not as much exists nowadays sadly but I believe I know what you mean

theres vanilla tweaks for general use

I noticed many "building" oriented people work with mods that adds furnitures and such

[onyx vortex]

and sorry i didn't realize you were joking at first and had a low tolerance rn 😭

[hidden moat]

low tolerance to what

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874125680420470814/1266467535897755689/togif.gif

[stoic herald]

mcoms it's talon lol

[hidden moat]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-donald-trump-meme-donald-trump-trump-meme-meme-gif-10861228265273156770

[weary basalt]

never ever heard of that, except for maybe some ultra modern packs keralis used in his world

but that doesn't count, i think people just like vanilla anyway

[onyx vortex]

idk it was very much an internal thing for the most part

[drowsy bone]

*idk it was

very much an internal

thing for the most part*

- mcoms

[onyx vortex]

just for videos and screenshots to spruce up the vanilla slightly without anyone noticing

im pretty sure a lot of the redesigns were kinda inspired by those in some part

[weary basalt]

@waxen kelp yes?

is it concave enough

[tardy vigil]

i prefer stuff that connects the vanilla textures

[waxen kelp]

hell yeah

[hidden moat]

lgtm vro

[weary basalt]

i had to google what lgtm meanen

[hidden moat]

its like lgbt

but for bearded men

[weary basalt]

lil basement storage?

[hidden moat]

yes basedment

[weary basalt]

do i close this dome off or should i try to decorate it?

[waxen kelp]

build supports

[acoustic relic]

someone in a furry artist server I'm in called this 'dementia Minecraft '

[oak acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512345897577742339/1302630844967551027/UioiHPWAXmManCPs.mp4?ex=6728d103&is=67277f83&hm=b38d544161ed13e1f1afa86d62d785d0d9469ba84743f6972d30c339c3d51851&

[prisma urchin]

?

[gloomy grotto]

gotta use chrome!

[prisma urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2CnIWdDIkI

i mean, its something, but why? this is the future of gaming?

[oak acorn]

it's not

[waxen kelp]

image recognition upgrades are important for several reasons,

some unethical or incorrect uses will be born from it

but mainly this shows somewhat of a mixture of image generation getting feed enough data that it knows what something is kinda and replicate a 3d space over it

[weary basalt]

wtf is this

[hidden moat]

why is your texturepack gay

AND vegan

[weary basalt]

dude what's wrong with DEI

dumbass

[weary basalt]

my parrot just mimicked an ender dragon growl

[waxen kelp]

@weary basalt the pack youre using is stolen

thats vanilla tweaks stuff

someone without permission uploaded it to bedrock

god microsoft sucks so bad

[weary basalt]

dude i know?

https://bedrocktweaks.net/

I'm 99% sure they have permission to fork it

[waxen kelp]

oooh they officially ported it

fancyy

happi

[weary basalt]

i don't think it was official

but it was permitted

[waxen kelp]

there was a version of it on marketplace that was paid and straight up stolen

[weary basalt]

help

[weary basalt]

TWO drowned dropped TWO tridents

[weary basalt]

quick nether hub

[weary basalt]

is this enough starter material

[oak acorn]

12 diamond blocks isn't enough for a single room

back to the grind buddy

[weary basalt]

and here i thought someone was going to point out the lone emerald

[waxen kelp]

emeralds are cheap and easy to obtain

[waxen kelp]

bedrock.

[waxen kelp]

bedrock but spooned gg

[waxen kelp]

looks nice a bit blocky

[weary basalt]

is this a good way to make my mine entrance look good

im not trying to add function here just make it look better than a hole on the ground

i also built a fidget spinner farm for the brainrot

[waxen kelp]

make an auto farm

[waxen kelp]

my mine is a giant hole on the floor

like a meteorite site.

[weary basalt]

yeah but is it a good way like this? with a hut n stuff

[waxen kelp]

simplicity is cool I guess? make it in a way that fits rest of the base

[weary basalt]

i got 5 more tridents

i have like 9 now

[waxen kelp]

bedrock drop rates are MUCH higher

[weary basalt]

how do i even find it

[oak acorn]

dig

[waxen kelp]

youre digging wrong spot

wasnt it 11 x 11 in chunk?

[hidden moat]

one block below bro

so the tip is on the same level as the x's

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/883839698970243072/1104940230907281438/attachment-8.gif

[weary basalt]

be so fr.

[weary basalt]

does this look good with white carpets on

[waxen kelp]

too messy imo

[weary basalt]

is this too much black?

[waxen kelp]

dont make walls with roofing material

use something to pop out outlines more

[weary basalt]

my dear wood..

[waxen kelp]

your dear WHAT

[weary basalt]

👽

[weary basalt]

thoughts?

purely stripped wood

[waxen kelp]

ok so heres the problem

you are using light and dark colours right next to eachother

lets saaaay

https://blockcolors.app/

try this app

create working palette and go with it

[weary basalt]

not a lot of options here

maybe i just swap all the spruce and birch logs with oak planks?

[weary basalt]

made it for a little xp farm with enchanting room

[waxen kelp]

I still have my enchanting room in the end

[weary basalt]

that's so inneficient

i wanna have extra maxxed out armor sets in case friends join my world and having to go to the end that many times would be hell

[waxen kelp]

its literally next to my enderman farm

oh also I have a huge mansion with villagers that I can get stacks of emeralds instantly and every single enchantment in the game

[weary basalt]

🥲

[weary basalt]

it was FIVE minutes of thunderstorm smh

[waxen kelp]

why not build a hoglin farm

got several double chests of cooked porkchop

[weary basalt]

oh i'm gonna

[waxen kelp]

Dias jugados: 300

[weary basalt]

i gotta learn spanish because guess where i'm going to live...

[oak acorn]

chile

[weary basalt]

spain

lol not even chileans understand themselves

i'll go back to the us eventually but i kinda fw with living in spain, getting a española wife & living la vida loca 🤓🤣

so i play minecraf in spanish

[oak acorn]

ikik it was a dumb joke

[weary basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/iamzoie-gotdamnzo-lmao-lmfao-falling-gif-20442861

[weary basalt]

does anyone have a suggestion on how to improve this?

[tardy vigil]

make it wider

having it go xy is kinda weird esp with how short it is

i usually just go only one direction

[hidden moat]

take your time and properly line it up then just hold w

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917781232585166890/1156197186091110481/togif-1.gif

id use f3 on java since the angles are listed there but.. you go have fun drawing imaginary lines on the block

[fierce mural]

no need to make it wider

there is a way to align the position and rotation of a boat before getting in

look it up online

you align it, then just press forwards, without hitting thr walls

[weary basalt]

it's so hard because when you steer the boat it also goes a little but forward

[fierce mural]

you dont steer it

you place it and its already at the right position and rotatikn

then, without steering it at all, you press forwards and it just goes perfectly in the middle

also, the path only needs every other block in the diagonal for it to work

like:

you did this

but you only need this

[weary basalt]

you meant i can skip a block of ice and only place it on the next block?

that doesn't work in minecraft for windows though

[fierce mural]

mb then, in that case, you definitely just need the full diagonal

not the thick path like in the first picture

I still think you can have it like in the second picture if you use a contraption to align the boat perfectly, but you must look it up online

[weary basalt]

the path becomes straight further on, i think i'll take those coordinates and go in a straight line that bends 90 degress instead of going diagonal

it's longer but more hassle free

[fierce mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQTnwqrfEU&t=374s

you can actually do a stright path at random angle, then just aim there and place the boat

as long as you don't try to steer, it will stay at that directon no matter what

[weary basalt]

my beloved debug menu...

[fierce mural]

use the edge of a far away block that you know is at 45 degrees

what matters is that you place down the boat at the right angle

[weary basalt]

right, ill save that knowledge for the future

[fierce mural]

then every time you want to travel, sit on the boat, do not steer or look around, then place the other boat in front of you

[weary basalt]

the straight section isn't very far though so the diagonal tunnel would've been more expensive

[fierce mural]

then just keep the tunnel as is and setup the alignment boats

[fierce mural]

I mean, why even ask for suggestions if you prefeer to dig an entirely separate hole instead of placing down a boat. You clearly don't want a suggestion

[weary basalt]

is there a way to calculate the cost of ice & time / travel saved

[drowsy bone]

*is there a way to

calculate the cost of ice

& time / travel saved*

- samuel (#KillHaiku)

[weary basalt]

because i realized it was a dumb idea for this case to begin with 😭

[fierce mural]

I sent you the video explaining my suggestion. Do whatever you want

[waxen kelp]

holy waste of blue ice

make it spotted in a way that wouldnt waste this much material

[drowsy bone]

*make it spotted in

a way that wouldnt waste this

much material*

- polarite

[weary basalt]

i prepared everything for my friends to defeat the dragon w me

and now they're making excuses 🥲

2 maxed out inventories

[thin whale]

Where bed?

[weary basalt]

that last time a gave a bed to a friend he placed it next to us and exploded everything

and i also enjoy fighting the boss the intended way

[hidden moat]

respect

[weary basalt]

ty op 😇

[weary basalt]

why is everybody so HORNY

gahhhh

[weary basalt]

my gpu driver won't stop hanging and black screen'ng while playing this game...

[onyx vortex]

https://forums.papermc.io/threads/the-future-of-paper.1451/

[waxen kelp]

this was something that should have been done long ago

I still rather have a rust implementation of server jar that doesnt use any of the mojang code

for max performance at the cost of not perfectly replicating vanilla

(similar to paper but built ground up for performance)

[onyx vortex]

glowstone is good ❤️

but its java not rust (better)

[waxen kelp]

not available for new versions

[onyx vortex]

soon

[waxen kelp]

mcoms leaks???

[lean imp]

but then it's not blazingly 🔥 fast 🚀, smh my head

[onyx vortex]

jit > rust

[waxen kelp]

Java when I have a 6tb ram computer but assing 64kb ram to the virtual machine(it crashed)

Java when I have a 6tb ram computer but assing 64kb ram to the virtual machine(it simply doesnt care and uses 6tb ram and then crashes while gc starts)

[hidden moat]

||js > rust||
https://github.com/tsivinsky/hi-mom

[oak acorn]

finally

[waxen kelp]

holy hecc it actually does support Turkish crazy!

[waxen kelp]

@onyx vortex question, what would be your suggestion for hosting a server?

since you are much more knowledgeable over this topic

I host many modded minecraft servers

but I am thinking more of a multithreaded server system

should I straight up ditch minecraft and go for something like minetest

(called luanti nowadays I think)

I am just really tired of all servers I create suffer from low tps above 10-15 players

or would you suggest I should go for some old version schenigans and "viaforward"

[onyx vortex]

i like protocolsupport

for version proxies

or bungeecord / velocity can work afaik

i think in terms of servers, paper is the best available

as for minetest, that will never be a fun game because its an entirely open source project with no direction

[waxen kelp]

it feels to me that minetest can be fun by the communitu

just like classicube

NA2 server there has so much amazing adventure maps that I suggest everyone should try

[onyx vortex]

i tried minetest albeit like 10 years ago

and it was exactly what id expect from an open source game with no vision or backing organization

like for example 0ad is pretty good though incomplete

because it has a backing org that makes decisions about their massive "contributions" to the project

minetest has a lot of custom content but imo its largely incongruent

[waxen kelp]

I mean in 10 years it improved significantly

its more of a base for people to build upon

[onyx vortex]

also the client is horrible

[waxen kelp]

kinda sad 1/3 of most popular stuff there is literally minecraft

[onyx vortex]

i get the whole base thing

but it doesn't really work out imo

an everything game becomes s nothing game

minecraft has way better mods because of its constraints, both in terms of tech and in terms of gameplay rules

[waxen kelp]

why did it work for minecraft?

minecraft was really hated with the adventure update too but even before that

notch added like 4 blocks and there were several clients made for minecraft

I saw some editors archived and its so funny to me that the first mod made is literally "faster furnace"

then "nether"

people started building up for the game just few months after release of game, why did it work out that way?

[fierce mural]

this right here sums up my feelings towards sooo much of gaming in the last few years

it seems to me that everybody treats limitations in a game like an inherent fault unless it is core to some "genre" that they want to fit the game into

even though they are an invaluable tool to make games more deep and engaging

placing the right limitations can unlock emergent gameplay, which for me is basically game-dev endgame

[waxen kelp]

maybe thats why some people still love old versions of Minecraft for building too?

when you implement too many options, then theres no options because they mix together

[waxen kelp]

https://modrinth.com/mod/simply-no-shading

looks literally same as bedrock

[weary basalt]

it doesn't

it looks like fullbright

oh you mean for entities?

[waxen kelp]

entities

did they add ao to bedrock?

[weary basalt]

i don't think so

could be wrong

maybe

[weary basalt]

they could have

[weary basalt]

h265 video not working again i just realized

nuke discord hq

[limpid radish]

it works for me dont worry

[tardy vigil]

https://fxtwitter.com/logspa_/status/1877773435511755014

[hollow bobcat]

fr i don't know how people play ultra modded

[fierce mural]

best mine design change my mind

[waxen kelp]

youre shrimply wrong

3 block space between tunnels is better

[weary basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-sog-soggy-cat-fact-check-fact-checked-gif-3086258029609134343

[fierce mural]

this is what I do, mate

[waxen kelp]

saw some 2 block spaced ones

truly not time efficient smh

(I dug straight 12x14 tunnels under my base for beacon placement and extra deepslate blocks)

[fierce mural]

there are no 2 block spaced tunnels anywhere in the screenshot

[waxen kelp]

aw rats okay

I was shrimply delusional

[weary basalt]

sorry, you dig in 2 block gaps

[weary basalt]

https://youtu.be/TXh4sKXSepg?feature=shared

what do ayll think of this video

[thin whale]

nostalgia ✅

[weary basalt]

i wonder why they haven't fixed the lighting for entities yet

the pause menu also no longer has the dark overlay and it's so f-ed up

actually the hands in first person also look weird now

[halcyon depot]

Is this android or iOS?

[weary basalt]

windows 11

i play minecraft bedrock instead of java nowadays

[halcyon depot]

Gross

But you do you

Idk I've never seen that bug before

I play bedrock too from time to time on linux, but using the android version

[weary basalt]

yea that's what i used to do

[weary basalt]

they look normal in this previous video

[halcyon depot]

Maybe it's a bug introduced by the new update?

[weary basalt]

it's in HEVC so i can't view it on mobile

[halcyon depot]

Owned

I can on android

[weary basalt]

that is a good glorpothesis

[halcyon depot]

[weary basalt]

yea im moving away from ios

[halcyon depot]

Thank you

Awesome

But they're basically the same now a days

[weary basalt]

more FOSS stuff on android

moonlight forks for example

can't do cool stuff on ios

newpipe also

https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe

[hidden moat]

just jailbreak lol ..

[weary basalt]

true i bought a used iphone so no warranty anyway

[oak acorn]

trollstore

[waxen kelp]

goes on for around uhhhh

let me look

600 blocks in lenght

this one will lead to the raid farm

[weary basalt]

no more official virtual reality boohoo

[waxen kelp]

modded ones are better anyway

[weary basalt]

bedrock

[weary basalt]

should i try this

[prisma urchin]

bro..

[weary basalt]

vro

my minecraft does not work vro

actually xbox services on my pc are fucking broken

can't even login to the xbox app

[prisma urchin]

nuke windows

its easier and safer

[weary basalt]

https://youtu.be/3_pmyDPCrPU

https://www.youtube.com/@dulltrax

ok this guy makes interesting stuff

https://youtu.be/n1v5EqKZlVI?feature=shared

[limpid radish]

the new minecraft update is straight up fire

[weary basalt]

i'm glad your having fun niterux

[limpid radish]

will you play minecraft with me @weary basalt @sleek thicket @acoustic relic

[weary basalt]

maybe

[sleek thicket]

no

[limpid radish]

:(

[waxen kelp]

damn thats tuff

[waxen kelp]

damn, that looks really tuff

[rich umbra]

hi can anyone help me trouble shoot minecraft LMFAO

[drowsy bone]

*hi can anyone

help me trouble shoot minecraft

LMFAO*

- veramo

[rich umbra]

ive been spending so much time trying to get it to run but it keeps fucking crashing!

[limpid radish]

why

[rich umbra]

it gives me this in logs lemme find it

actually cant find it

i think its a paging file error or smth

[limpid radish]

I CANT HELP YOU WITHOUT NO LOSG

[waxen kelp]

which launcher

you can ping or dm me for any kind of minecraft java issues, I have been working and moderating widely available communities

[rich umbra]

standard launcher

ill pull the logs in a bit

[waxen kelp]

ping me when you find them

if you cant we can try adoptium java first

or if you want switching to prism launcher is better

[rich umbra]

gives me this then the game never launches

@limpid radish @waxen kelp

[waxen kelp]

do you have any start up args?

[rich umbra]

looks like i do? do i just remove them>

-Xmx2G -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1NewSizePercent=20 -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=32M

[limpid radish]

wtf idk what that is bruh ur pc is cooked

[drowsy bone]

*wtf

idk what that is bruh

ur pc is cooked*

- totallynotniteruxiswear

[waxen kelp]

seems fine

what does it show as java location

[waxen kelp]

hmm its using bundled version

do you have adoptium java?

[rich umbra]

lemme install it then

[limpid radish]

yes

[waxen kelp]

install adoptium java 21

[waxen kelp]

???

its the default java args for minecraft launcher

removing them wont change the page issue

[limpid radish]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/performance/rebuild-performance-counter-library-values

[limpid radish]

The minecraft launcher doesn't supply default values in the arguments box. all default values are hidden

[limpid radish]

@rich umbra

You need to do this

[waxen kelp]

it does iirc?

[limpid radish]

It does not

[waxen kelp]

I cant find any relation between these issues

[limpid radish]

rtfm bro

https://www.oshi.ooo/FAQ.html#how-do-i-resolve-pdh-call-failed-with-error-code-0xc0000bb8-issues

[waxen kelp]

nor the flags

[limpid radish]

rtfm.....

[rich umbra]

all this shit to play a block game

[waxen kelp]

the paging error shouldnt even cause the game to not start

[rich umbra]

it shows up as a process in task manager

ill just let it be for like 10-20 mins then i guess lol

[drowsy bone]

*ill just let it be

for like 10-20 mins then

i guess lol*

- veramo

[waxen kelp]

did switching java installation not work?

[rich umbra]

no it gave me the same thing in the logs

oh!

maybe its legitimately taking a long time to load? thats my only guess 😭

installing like og versions it works for some reason

[limpid radish]

yeah because og versions don't use oshi

u gotta fix the performance counters

[limpid radish]

@rich umbra did this work?

[rich umbra]

i didnt try it

[limpid radish]

why

[limpid radish]

why

it's literally in the docs on how to fix the issue you couldn't get any more of an accurate answer

[waxen kelp]

its kinda scary tbh I agree

even page agrees its scary haha

[limpid radish]

bruh

[rich umbra]

cant believe i have to edit my reg to play a block game...

[waxen kelp]

btw whats your hardware?

[rich umbra]

is it just this step then

[limpid radish]

I think it's that step and the next step

[rich umbra]

32gb ram
AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
Geforce RTX 3070 Ti 8gb

[waxen kelp]

did you update your drivers?

[rich umbra]

probably not yet

[waxen kelp]

reg editing is the last step tbh

check your amd and nvidia drivers

[rich umbra]

i had minecraft running on this pc like maybe a year ago or so which is so fucking weird

LMAO

[waxen kelp]

new versions?

[rich umbra]

yea i think it was 1.19?

[waxen kelp]

hmmm

[rich umbra]

well it was 2 years ago but like it should work

idk im updating my drivers rn

[limpid radish]

well clearly the performance counters got corrupted in the past 2 years

[waxen kelp]

but why would that cause a crash

[limpid radish]

because oshi needs it and doesn't expect your os to be fucking corrupt

[waxen kelp]

it can be seen as disabling the search

[limpid radish]

what

[waxen kelp]

"disabling further attemps to query paging file."

thats also a WARN not FATAL

[limpid radish]

id try reinstalling windows

[waxen kelp]

if it doesnt work, try installing prism launcher as a last hope

[limpid radish]

prism launcher also uses oshi it's a dependency of minecraft

[waxen kelp]

just in the 0.001% chance of more log helping us

we can maybe see more debug data there

[rich umbra]

i tried prism and it was the same log of the paging file stuff

i updated my drivers

idk i think it also kinda took a long time to launch when i was playing it like 2 years ago??? so lets just see if waiting will help LMFAO

if not then i appreciate the help you guys gave me

[waxen kelp]

is there a latest.log created? or a debug.log

[waxen kelp]

this type of exit should also create a crash report, if it doesnt, either reg entries or a fresh windows reinstall is the way to do it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1092551558648053832.webp?size=48

[rich umbra]

i could also verify my windows install... see if that does anything

[waxen kelp]

doesnt check said data iirc

no harm in trying I guess?

[limpid radish]

Does anyone wanna play Minecraft with me using the Essential mod?

[sleek thicket]

what's that

[limpid radish]

https://essential.gg/

it lets u play local minecraft worlds with ur friends like u can on bedrock

and it also adds a bunch of other goated features

it has a griddy emote

[sleek thicket]

say no more

[tardy vigil]

https://modrinth.com/mod/e4mc

just use this

a bit less convenient but i think essential mod is horrible purely because it reduces performance and because it also introduces its own paid cosmetics system tied to their friends & connections system

theres probably a better way but i just dont like how essentials has a really good concept for a mod and they ruin it by adding their own paid cosmetics

[limpid radish]

e4mc never worked for me it sucks

also it has no griddy

[tardy vigil]

you can get emotes seperately

[tardy vigil]

how

[limpid radish]

i dont know it just literally does not work for me

[sleek thicket]

say no more

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-ace-attorney-big-brain-gif-5363889720252618555

[sleek thicket]

thoughts on the april fools build this year?

[waxen kelp]

feels like recycled unlimited dimensions

[hidden moat]

recycled - yes, they made them playable

[weary basalt]

yea essential mod is so bloated

[weary basalt]

e4mc works fine, there's also world host

[limpid radish]

world host also didn't work for me

[limpid radish]

is it really bloated if I use every feature including hitting the griddy?

hmmm?