Minecraft Megathread - fun detected

[fierce mural]

fandom was already abusive and had a terrible reputation when they moved in

[tardy vigil]

they used to be under gamepedia

which they merged with fandom

since that it got increasingly worse

[thin whale]

they should move to the tf2 wiki tbh

[acoustic relic]

fiendwiki

[fierce mural]

ah, so they didn't have a say

now that you mention it, I did notice a bunch of normal wiki turning into fandom shit right around the same time

[fervent juniper]

I wish all wikis dumped fandom tbh
I always found the MediaWiki UIs better

[stoic herald]

has anyone else even played on the server yet lol

[tardy vigil]

yes

[stoic herald]

okay

wait minecraft has abandoned villages?

huh, never seen one of these before

[hidden moat]

they're rare

[quasi ivy]

I can't stop thinking about how Mojang listened to the guy who gave the idea of infinite dimensions on Minecraft and then they released an april fools update to make fun of his idea and they proved him right because that update was sick as fuck

[tardy vigil]

i think they should fix their existing dimensions before making any new ones

[tardy vigil]

@oak acorn hey can u list all the serverside mods u run for the server

thatd be nice :) my friends entrusted me to host a server for them

[drowsy bone]

*thatd be nice :) my

friends entrusted me to host

a server for them*

- rayningforests

[hidden moat]

I Don't Think The Server Runs Mods...

[tardy vigil]

serverside mods

things like ferritecore, lithium

[onyx vortex]

plugina maybe

[hidden moat]

That Is Assuming That The Server Runs Fabric...

[onyx vortex]

ci OP That Is Assuming That The Server Runs Fabric...

[tardy vigil]

it runs quilt

[hidden moat]

Or Quilt...

I Am Clearly Biased.

this modpack is p good https://modrinth.com/modpack/adrenaserver

Made By Devin.. a friend

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1068785198730321950/1131195765033807952/CleanShot_2023-07-19_at_20.07.532x.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1068785198730321950/1131197184537272420/CleanShot_2023-07-19_at_20.13.362x.png

[tardy vigil]

yeah thats the nature of the project thati expected

[onyx vortex]

it sounds like they wanna be more important than they are

anyway that project is dead afaik

[tardy vigil]

shame

cant wait for quilt to be also forked

[oak acorn]

on paper

i can send configs if u need any

[tardy vigil]

no thats fine

thank you

[oak acorn]

i use paper/bukkit api

[oak acorn]

sorry im still asleep i meant paper not fabric

[hidden moat]

i know am just sharjng ..

[oak acorn]

how did you know…….

[hidden moat]

sshd on your server to check..

[hollow bobcat]

it's dying right now. a ton of people are leaving, including most of the community/mod team, and now one of the only devs really improving things

they've also been going around talking about how they're a non profit for the last few months

turns out, they never even were

[tardy vigil]

hope theres gonna be a successor

with a less shitty management

[oak acorn]

why though

[onyx vortex]

go woke, go broke

[oak acorn]

where does fabric need improvement

that a whole new mod api/framwork/w/e is needed

[onyx vortex]

afaik one of the admins is a bigot

[oak acorn]

of fabric?

[onyx vortex]

yeah

hes got like idk

a really shitty name

like Nameless or Player

idk

typical 4chan name

[oak acorn]

https://github.com/orgs/FabricMC/people are they not in here

[oak acorn]

oh is it this guy https://github.com/sfPlayer1

[tardy vigil]

https://twitter.com/doctor4t_/status/1676011432280838145

this explains it fine enough

im ok with an inclusive space

but there comes a point where you sugarcoat it too fucking much

people like part of lgbt or people with disorders such as adhd or autism or whatever arent fuckign children

we arent fucking babies

we are people like everyone else

i dont want special treatment

i want to be in a community that doesnt want me dead but also doesnt sugarcoat everything

[hollow bobcat]

the sad thing is that this is literally it

quilt has some improvements (only on the dev side, virtually 0 for users), but the main point of the project was because of that

which isn't a bad thing until the leadership just fucks everything over and people start specifically making mods for quilt when they really don't need to

because then you're just screwing over users who use fabric since it's more popular and have no idea about what goes on in the discord server

plus it's kinda risky in general now since god knows what's going to end up happening to quilt

[lean imp]

Don't worry someone will fork it and it'll be better this time i swear

[hollow bobcat]

i can't wait for blanket loader to come out and have it support fabric and quilt but also have 2 exclusive mods

[fierce mural]

yea, I was also was curious about that

what was quilt doing that required a fork from fabric?

[tardy vigil]

quilt is literally just fabric

though

like its literally fabric

[hidden moat]

are there mods that only work on quilt

[hollow bobcat]

yeah but only a few and usually made by quilt devs themselves

[drowsy bone]

*yeah but only a

few and usually made

by quilt devs themselves*

- g3tchoo

[hollow bobcat]

really cool mods though

[hidden moat]

example?

just wondering if those outweigh the mods that are broken on quilt

[onyx vortex]

it has quilt mod manager

[hidden moat]

wow...

[hollow bobcat]

https://modrinth.com/mod/lambdabettergrass
https://modrinth.com/mod/ok-zoomer
here's two off the top of my head

pretty sure the latter got forked though to keep supporting fabric

also what mods are broken on quilt? i've never really had an issue since it's basically still fabric

[hidden moat]

there is a thread on quilt forums

i think

[hidden moat]

both do

pretty cool

https://forum.quiltmc.org/t/mod-incompatibility-megathread/261

that reminds me of vulkanmod

[hollow bobcat]

some of these are pretty outdated, but yeah there are a small handful

like mouse wheelie for example, i've used that fine on quilt recently

[drowsy bone]

*like mouse wheelie for

example, i've used that fine

on quilt recently*

- g3tchoo

[hollow bobcat]

armored elytra has also worked and i've never seen crashes

but i didn't know vulkan mod was

[tardy vigil]

ok i fucked something up

this is not how the game is meant to look

[hidden moat]

not so bright now

[hidden moat]

cant stop thinking about this thing https://www.minecraftmaps.com/pve-maps/aghanims-labyrinth

[tardy vigil]

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Java_Edition_23w31a

[hidden moat]

breezewiki.com doesn't have this page saved.

[tardy vigil]

diamond ore generates more frequently in deepslate now

a bunch of other small changes

also adds experimental update toggle

[hidden moat]

id rather have everything generate more frequently in deepslate

🫠

[tardy vigil]

librarians in different biomes now sell different enchanted books

[hidden moat]

huh

Some enchantments have been removed from village trading and must be found in other ways

dont tell me

[tardy vigil]

mending nerfed

[hidden moat]

good change actually

[tardy vigil]

you need to breed villagers in a swamp biome to get mending enchantment

[hidden moat]

huh

[tardy vigil]

because swamp villagers dont spawn naturally

[hidden moat]

is there a table what biome has what "unique" enchant

[tardy vigil]

oh lmfao

my bad

[hidden moat]

thankfully there are redirects

[tardy vigil]

edited

[hidden moat]

wha

why redirect to fandom

[hidden moat]

😭

[tardy vigil]

breezewiki didnt have it

[hidden moat]

antifandom has it

but without the table

for some reason

[oak acorn]

in going to KILL mojang

[oak acorn]

in going to KILL mojang

[hidden moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003350241787002953/1128738650935525547/blinks.gif

they gotta add pocket cats bro

i mean, is experimental

for now

n theres like no explanation why different biomes are tied to certain enchants

[acoustic relic]

wish pocket cats were real they would be so silly

[tardy vigil]

https://vxtwitter.com/modrinth/status/1688947107833556997

[hollow bobcat]

ngl it's been pretty good

not amazing for individual mods or instance management in general, but if you're into a lot of modpacks it's solid

im helping work on some of their linux packaging though since it's pretty much borked atm

[oak acorn]

why not just prism

[hollow bobcat]

some people don't enjoy the ui and prefer simpler things

but yeah for any "advanced" player, prism is still on top

or people who want mods from other platforms

[fierce mural]

yea, prism's UI is sub-par

don't say PRs welcome

[hollow bobcat]

i don't need to, there are already being some worked on

[fierce mural]

yay

[hollow bobcat]

a few improvements have made it to develop so far, but nothing really big just yet

most of it would probably come with the eventual qml rewrite...which will probably happen one day?

but yeah qt ui sucks lol

[oak acorn]

qt widgets can be good imo

[stoic herald]

prism's UI looks fine to me

[gloomy grotto]

i am baffled

attack of the inventories

[hollow bobcat]

imo it has a lot of inconsistencies, accessibility issues, and just doesn’t look too modern compared to other launchers

it’s become much better than multimc, but there’s still a ways to go

plus qml would making adding things much easier, and more maintainers are familiar with it

like me

for the quilt beacon pr i did, i was editing the ui files by hand, only to find out i was supposed to use qt creator

[tardy vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1140833450065154278/46nZ4qN5.mp4

my favorite video genre

is bedrock minecraft heart attacks

i love just waching these and thinking "when are they gonna die"

[fierce mural]

https://www.2b2t.org/update/

holy shit

this is like: let's devalue the only thing with any value in this entire server

how can someone that has a project running for such a long time be this dense about managing it

I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this

And I'm even more astounded by how, HOW in all of these years, with all of the extremely dumb stuff that the people in charge of this server have done, with all of the backdoors and unauthorized accesses NOBODY HAS EVER THOUGHT OF JUST STEALING THE FUCKING MAP FILES AND MAKING A GOOD SERVER ON IT

ITS THE ONLY THING THAT HAS VALUE IN THERE

I couldn't care less about anarchy or all of that, but it's like someone is defacing the Stonehenge because it's not bringing enough tourists anymore, and expecting the defaced Stonehenge to bring in more tourists

This is a pipe dream... but if someone ever comes across the map files, even if it is an old backup several years out of date, and makes the right decision of securing from becoming public... Imagine: Six months to a year of open discussion for ironing out clear and well founded and public directives for maintaining the server and keeping the anarchy experiment running, followed by open source development of plugins to make it possible, then the launch using the old map, and continued governance and improvement as game breaking bugs and performance issues arise and are dealt with.

[stoic herald]

kenajcrap I think you've spent too much time on 2b2t

[fierce mural]

I've never played on the server

[stoic herald]

okay

[fervent juniper]

ouch...

[vast tinsel]

23 terabyte minecraft heist

[onyx vortex]

Is the server still up?

[hidden moat]

@oak acorn

[tardy vigil]

ngl shame i didnt play much

maybe if there was more organized playtime itd be better

[oak acorn]

should be

maybe out of date

[stoic herald]

updating mods for an update is always a fun time

[tardy vigil]

https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/1709222541695266942

Minecraft (@Minecraft)

Mob Vote reveal!
 
Do you want the crab to be the next mob to scuttle into Minecraft?
 
Voting begins October 13th!

https://t.co/NPA08ew4Py

Likes

50537

Retweets

4472

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 3, 2023, 3:03 PM

i cant believe these mfs are making us vote for a CRAB

all the other mobs have been like fantasy creatures and theres just CRAB now

[fervent juniper]

don't forget the frog

[tardy vigil]

https://youtu.be/sCszdeWTzKs?si=eUDenqfy3XgEvIvB

they made all 3 mobs real animals

kill yourself jeb

anyways vote for crab because i dont care about wolf armor and my boat going a bit faster

being able to increase your block reach is huge

[fervent juniper]

it would be hilarious if some dumb Linux user named a penguin Mr. Torvalds

[fervent juniper]

interesting

as for wolf armor, eh, it's decent
Faster boats? Boats are quick enough already

[hidden moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mlem-plink-cat-treats-gif-945202592288553838

nooo skep... why did you install linux ..

[fervent juniper]

unfortunately, my lack of self-confidence has led me to seek it through other means

[hidden moat]

so true!

[fervent juniper]

the nerd pipeline is so strong
I abandoned MS Word for LyX and markdown, abandoned notepad for vim and nano, and embraced package managers over finding apps online
hilarious

anyways, I must hit the sack now... you have a good day over there

[drowsy bone]

*anyways, I must

hit the sack now... you have a

good day over there*

- a skeptical fellow

[hidden moat]

ty. will do in some time too

[tardy vigil]

the mob vote has begun

You can vote via the Minecraft Launcher, Minecraft.net, or through our special event server on Minecraft: Bedrock Edition. If you don’t have Bedrock Edition, you can vote by opening the launcher or online by visiting https://minecraft.net/live

it will last until 1 pm edt on sunday, when minecraft live begins

[stoic herald]

I'll just vote for crab because I don't think you'll ever see the other two lol

unless armadillo is in deserts

well too late now

[stoic herald]

I'll ask this here in case anyone has a solution, but for some reason my mouse seems to lag in fullscreen but not in windowed mode

this is on fabric 1.20.2, but it seems to happen in vanilla as well

by it lags I mean it's as if it's running at a lower refresh rate

[thin whale]

i've installed rad 2

i accidentally entered the nether through a portal liquid?

and now i paused the game, half heart and burning

[stoic herald]

the offical mastercomfig minecraft server is back baby

[fervent juniper]

might wanna check it out later this week

[oak acorn]

why so

[stoic herald]

because it was updated to 1.20.2

[oak acorn]

oh yeah i did do that

ping me if it’s behind lol

[tardy vigil]

https://vxtwitter.com/Minecraft/status/1734980771562037759

the most boring game

of all time

this is what ppl voted for

now ur dog can spend 3 seconds dying in lava it just walked into instead of 2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1185377544598462574/GaGget3.webp?ex=658f63dd&is=657ceedd&hm=38d193bb2ad79a84e5ca42ffd722c39d1890ee0c1e9e4e8bf1bafddb2001d387&

i hoped it would atleast look like this

like come on

[hidden moat]

lemme put enchants on there

[thin whale]

too much work

[hidden moat]

Minecraft Megathread - x^3

[stoic herald]

okay

[stoic herald]

I'm not sure if anyone is even playing on it anymore but it's outdated again

[oak acorn]

yeah cause theres a few things still on .2 i think

[halcyon depot]

I am on 1.20.4

[stoic herald]

I am on 1.20.5

[halcyon depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1085675210021281842.webp?size=48&name=STARE&quality=lossless

not real

[oak acorn]

paper is still on .4 so that's what it's going to be

[stoic herald]

1.20.5 isn't a thing lol

[hidden moat]

why are you purposefully telling misinformation

[stoic herald]

sorry

[onyx vortex]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RGglcOuX1KM

[stoic herald]

got false banned from hypixel and my appeal was denied

so I guess I won't be playing on hypixel for the next 30 days lol

[oak acorn]

what for

[stoic herald]

unfair mods

I think what may have happened is that there's a bug in one of the mods I have that got me banned

as I found a bug report on the github saying that

mod is mouse wheelie in case anyone else has it

[hidden moat]

me when i download a blacklisted mod and i and the

[stoic herald]

truly

[hidden moat]

Minecraft Megathread - diagonal rails are creating additional (sqrt(2)-1) rails

[onyx vortex]

@oak acorn could you add mc.comfig.app to comfig.dnsense.pub domains

[oak acorn]

sorry, I don’t understand?

oh

you have to make the SRV record on those domains yourself I think

[onyx vortex]

ohh okay

[hidden moat]

qhar,

[stoic herald]

I've decided that I'm going to clean up this village that I'm living in

maybe someone will join the server at some point and see

[halcyon depot]

you play on the mastercomfig server?

[onyx vortex]

im not seeing a srv record for some reason

[oak acorn]

you mean for comfig.dnsense.pub?

[onyx vortex]

yeah

[oak acorn]

oh shoot I think I maybe forgot to migrate it when I switched dns hosts

sorry

[onyx vortex]

a few days ago it was working when i tested in mc

[oak acorn]

nevermind it's there

> dig _minecraft._tcp.comfig.dnsense.pub SRV

; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> _minecraft._tcp.comfig.dnsense.pub SRV
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28343
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;_minecraft._tcp.comfig.dnsense.pub. IN    SRV

;; ANSWER SECTION:
_minecraft._tcp.comfig.dnsense.pub. 3600 IN SRV    0 5 25560 dnsense.pub.

;; Query time: 42 msec
;; SERVER: 2600:1700:5430:52e0::1#53(2600:1700:5430:52e0::1)
;; WHEN: Wed Feb 07 19:39:33 PST 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 94

[onyx vortex]

got the dns records up now

[halcyon depot]

dnsense.pub

Free VAC! and you know

[stoic herald]

of course! it's the best server around!

[thin whale]

apparently crouch jump is more effective in minecraft too

[gloomy grotto]

i don't believe that's true?

[tardy vigil]

remember how i got banned from the quilt server

so to join quilt's discord

upon joining its read only, to participate you need to apply

i made my first application, filled out every form

it got denied

i filled out the form again

i got banned

no idea why

i thought i got banned because at the time i had a funny bio

[drowsy bone]

*i thought i got banned

because at the time i had

a funny bio*

- rayne

[tardy vigil]

"dms only for women" something like that

so i applied for an unban

SEVEN MONTHS LATER

banned for NEO NAZI AND RACISM CONNOTATIONS ON YOUR PROFILE

I HAD NOTHING LIKE THAT

NOTHING

NOTHING

what the fuck

these people are INSANE

someone has a theory the neo nazi and racism connotation is the fact that the epic account linked to my discord is named "ranyewest"

[stoic herald]

wow rayne I didn't know you were a neonazi

[halcyon depot]

minecraft quilt?

they are icky

[acoustic relic]

what

idk how someone comes to that conclusion

[hidden moat]

quilt are trying to solve nonexistant problem

give me their money

ill fork fabric and call it tread

[tardy vigil]

https://x.com/minecraft/status/1757801059764912506 fucking finally

Minecraft (@Minecraft) on X

🚨 New Mob Alert: the bogged! 🚨

A variation of the skeleton, the bogged is equipped with deadly poison arrows and can be found in the trial chambers & swamp biomes.

Test it out on the latest Snapshot (coming soon to Bedrock beta & preview): https://t.co/EbiwNuTdXv

Twitter · Feb 14, 2024, 4:16 PM

[oak acorn]

is this picture awful or am i just blind

the contrast is shit

[hidden moat]

sorry to say but you’ve been diagnosed with pregnancy

[ionic oar]

looks ok to me

[stoic herald]

is anyone else not able to join the server?

I keep getting this error when I try to join it

[lean imp]

might be an issue on mojang's end

[thin whale]

server's in bedrock?

[stoic herald]

https://modrinth.com/mod/bedrockify

[halcyon depot]

this looks interesting

[ionic oar]

ive used it before, its quite nice (I do disable most of the mod because I dont like bedrocks UI)

also mods like "bedrock waters" and the bedrock texture ports in vanilla tweaks

I found the player paper doll in bedrockify to be pretty buggy though

also the mod Clear Skies (https://modrinth.com/mod/clear-skies) to make the sky look nicer (imo)

hasnt been updated tho

[stoic herald]

@hollow bobcat Congratulations on the release of Prism 8.2, I know you all put lots of work into it!

[hollow bobcat]

thank you mr me derp

[onyx vortex]

I made a new server @ therealms.online

this one is more serious, with RPG mechanics and stuff, whereas the other one is more of a chill vanilla server

[halcyon depot]

dnsense.pub GTA

[hidden moat]

Minecraft Megathread - serious

[stoic herald]

muy serioso

[tardy vigil]

wow.

[hidden moat]

this shit zomboid

[hidden moat]

Minecraft Megathread - Mace, The Destroyer Of Balance.

[acoustic relic]

what is this estrogen mod

[hidden moat]

brainrot

[acoustic relic]

literally so me bestie

[hidden moat]

https://modrinth.com/mod/estrogen

700k downloads

ok sure

[thin whale]

https://github.com/jetpacker06/Create-Broken-Bad

[onyx vortex]

Mimecraft Megathread - Mace

[stoic herald]

mime

[tardy vigil]

https://fixupx.com/seru1a/status/1774827584167035286

[fierce mural]

lol

[onyx vortex]

Minecraft Megathread - Mace

[hidden moat]

Minecraft Megathread - aether update

[halcyon depot]

potato update

[stoic herald]

https://github.com/CaffeineMC/sodium-fabric/issues/2400

sodium is trying to relicense

[fierce mural]

just finished reading it, thats crazy

Indeed, I always wondered how was it possible that the whole "modpack" thing didnt turn predatory towards authors

it seems that I just wasn't looking close enough

and its true, because I never even used one. Just vanilla game through spigot/paper with a few plugins

people should stop doing modpacks fr

can't thing of a way to prevent it from fomenting entitlement eventually

[oak acorn]

i dont think modpacks are even what they’re complaining about

[stoic herald]

I believe it's mostly about the forge ports of sodium

[tardy vigil]

https://blog.modrinth.com/p/capital-return

tldr modrinth is completely independent from investors now

A year and a half ago, we raised a $1.2 million pre-seed round of investor capital. With the money, we hired full-time developers and part-time community members, some of whom have supported Modrinth since the very beginning.

We let sustainable infrastructure for moderation slip to the back-burner since we could just hire extra moderators to compensate, and more and more of my time as the founder was taken up by things that didn’t make Modrinth better. Bugs and technical debt also gradually infected our codebase as we focused on hyper-growth over maintenance.

Alongside this, as we looked more into the future, we saw that the venture-backed cycle wouldn’t be the right path for Modrinth. Every investor invests in a company with the expectation of a return on their investment, and while all of our backers have been incredibly supportive, we wanted to be able to work on Modrinth at our own pace and terms. We’ve seen other companies in this space prioritize profits and growth at the expense of the community and creators, and we didn’t want this to happen to Modrinth.

In the end, as of February 1st, 2024, I decided to return $800k in remaining investor capital back to our investors.

[hollow bobcat]

pretty big shame tbh

i think a lot of things will die out now

but

they were also going out the door anyways

[fierce mural]

they are not complaining about modpacks of course, but i think that extremely large packs being the main way people seem to consume custom content on Minecraft doesn't seem to be helping the problem

it incentivises thinking of mods as just small pieces of a larger thing that someone else controls even though they have not helped develop any of the pieces

from that it's a small jump to feeling entitled to having a say on the decisions of said "small parts"

and then when the developer says "uhm, no. I would rather do this another way/focus on something else" that's when the problematic forks come in

[thin whale]

Everyone you may want to check if your Minecraft account was hacked

[halcyon depot]

why

[thin whale]

There was an attack to Minecraft.net in December 2023

[halcyon depot]

I see

[tardy vigil]

minecraft has dropped 32 bit support

tw

btw

[halcyon depot]

yeah

I wonder why

i hacked

ryane.net

information stollen: 20 terabyutes of jermafancams

[stoic herald]

but minecraft accounts don't exist anymore?

[thin whale]

microsoft accounts were leaked

[hidden moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921897702130847805/1228678782513320058/VID_20240413_180758_456.mp4?ex=662ceb49&is=661a7649&hm=21b381f693404711c86d6a3e0e9986e4e97fa5af026b333f6a22bd6c42febf38&

melon farm

[acoustic relic]

kinda cringe but the animation is cute

[onyx vortex]

i think the video has no redeeming qualities

[tardy vigil]

what do you think is wrong with it

[acoustic relic]

[hollow bobcat]

mods, please kill this person

[tardy vigil]

https://fxtwitter.com/joinmolten/status/1681125948719235072

[limpid radish]

can we legalize murder

[hidden moat]

if its towards you

[summer rampart]

I know a child made this because they think a bounce is animating cause that's what their favorite jpgtubers do instead of just making a damn 3D model

[tardy vigil]

what do you suggest they shouldve done instead

[summer rampart]

not look like they smoked a bowl of crack before animating something with an r6 skeleton.

[tardy vigil]

i think youre missing the point here

[summer rampart]

and the other one. download blender and turn their drawings into a puppet.

[tardy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-minecraft-realistic-steve-floss-happy-gif-19839101 do you want them to look like tihs

[summer rampart]

that's a 3D model andd i've seen much much worse.

[acoustic relic]

they should smoke fent instead

[limpid radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1013224110286970902/1233135297865453579/Graalvm-jdk-2236.1_2024.04.25_-_14.59.55.02-compressed.mp4?ex=662bfe3d&is=662aacbd&hm=8ff912d933cd69ebc1fd1564d7288fd6d55aa17e483b32f44c3ce9d5e8c63bee&

[oak acorn]

graalvm

[hollow bobcat]

graalvm

[stoic herald]

adoptium supremacy

[hollow bobcat]

ok ngl if you made that it's actually sick as fuck

[hollow bobcat]

fr

[oak acorn]

i just use nixos default jdk 😭

[stoic herald]

I mean on linux yeah fair

just use whatever the distro packages

[limpid radish]

ididnt make the island i havr the terralith datapack which adds sky islands

[tardy vigil]

new update title

next theyll do a fishing update and call it Risky Reels

[hollow bobcat]

tilted towers would've been funnier

[limpid radish]

wwhjat did i do to deserve so many mobs to spawn on my platform

[drowsy bone]

*wwhjat did i do to

deserve so many mobs to

spawn on my platform*

- totallynotniteruxiswear

[limpid radish]

i love you haikubot thank you

[stoic herald]

how many syllables are in wwhjat

[hidden moat]

!haiku syllables wwhjat

[drowsy bone]

wwhjat: 1 syllable

[summer rampart]

I'm surprised i can run mc 1.7 on java 17 and 21 now cause that one mod on github. Fixes stutters but not rendering all that much but feels faster.

[hidden moat]

what is the mod

[summer rampart]

Lwjgl3ify. Only time it seems to not work is on mods with hostile DRM.

[thin whale]

https://fxtwitter.com/Minecraft/status/1785331050622640201 i could instantly tell that they were from the og artist

[limpid radish]

omg these are amazing

[fierce mural]

I like the last one in the last picture

the rest is meh

I really wanted to see some more of the artist's "noclip outside source maps" style

[hidden moat]

what do you even mean og artist

nvm.

most are great

only 10 of them are shown tho!! (very shocking)

Minecraft Megathread - Painting Update

[thin whale]

:]

i didn't know i had a cape already tho

[thin whale]

the game is on sale now, 20 € pc version

2 $ mobile

[limpid radish]

this is what it cost when i got it in the first place how is it a sale

which skin should I use

[acoustic relic]

femboy or catgirl

[tardy vigil]

unexpected skins

[hidden moat]

Minecraft Megathread - alpha

\

[hidden moat]

creeper in a suit

[limpid radish]

tyhat screenshot isnt from alpha

[hidden moat]

please act like ure 8 years old again

[limpid radish]

please act

[hidden moat]

society being contempt with people being open gooners is not ok

[hidden moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/851248687560654890/1215945419461492817/ibzkhx.gif

[limpid radish]

that screenshot clearly isnt from alpah though

[hidden moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098714175997485166/1241534009373097994/caption.gif

[limpid radish]

guys is this texture pack cottagecore

[tardy vigil]

why do u have essentials

[hidden moat]

your skin isnt

[tardy vigil]

i dont . like essentials

[limpid radish]

gay cape

[hidden moat]

thats not gay

thats rainbow

[limpid radish]

gay cape

[tardy vigil]

good for you

i think theres a mod

that lets you do capes without essentials

[limpid radish]

honestly it's for the banger screenshot manager

[tardy vigil]

custom ones that is

[limpid radish]

no other mod has a screenshot manager this good

except mine but my mod is for beta 1.7.3

[tardy vigil]

i dont have the mod purely out of the principle of me not wantingpaid cosmetics from a minecraft mod lol

[limpid radish]

no you will pay $40 for the purple set

30% off

limited time

[limpid radish]

the gay cape is free actually

[tardy vigil]

i think figura is better for character customization

[drowsy bone]

*i think figura

is better for character

customization*

- rayne

[limpid radish]

it really isnt

figura is more for like

entire avatars

that i dont like half of them are pomni or genshin avatars

[tardy vigil]

my friend made their own skin in it its really nice

[hidden moat]

too bad

i want it paywalled

[tardy vigil]

so sorry for including paid microtransactions in a minecraft mod. to make up for it. we love u gays.

gays welcome to spend money on our mod

[hidden moat]

i mean yeah is cool and good and maybe yeah

but we already have these things called standalone applications

[limpid radish]

3 pomni avatars

[tardy vigil]

why are you so hyperfixated on pomni

[limpid radish]

i hate them

[tardy vigil]

you literally are repping an astolfo skin

[limpid radish]

gen alpha cringe

[limpid radish]

and?

[tardy vigil]

youre doing a pot calling the kettle black!!!

[limpid radish]

no im not

[tardy vigil]

its not a good look

you are

you cant berate people and then do that

you need. to pick a side.

[limpid radish]

there are 0 astolfo avatars

terrible mod

[tardy vigil]

get funny.

[limpid radish]

it's true though

[limpid radish]

i can have double standards

it's fairly common for people to do that

[fierce mural]

oh my fucking god

[halcyon depot]

😭

hopefuly it will be bedrock only

[tardy vigil]

it wil

l be bedrock only

[limpid radish]

i just noticed that

3 updates this 1.20

has just been

like

1 bug fix

because mojang keeps putting gamebreaking bugs into the actual minor releases

instead of patching them out in snapshots

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft--java-edition-1-20-1

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-1-20-4

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-1-20-6

all of these are hotfix releases

is mojang stupid?

stop putting your betas as releases

[hidden moat]

.11 coming when

[limpid radish]

jailbreaking the minecraft ai to learn how to craft tnt block

[limpid radish]

we need to start a #fixminecraft movement where we advocate for only 1 modloader and 1 mod that has everything in it

instead of 1 gazillion different mods that did what just optifine could do a millenia ago

[hidden moat]

fabric

[limpid radish]

fabric is the worst thing to happen to minecraft modding since mcpatcher dying

you know how much mods u need to have to do

what optifine or mcpatcher did

but on fabric

or using optifabric which at the moment

isnt compatible with fabric's api

[stoic herald]

optifine didn't die because of fabric, optifine died because optifine sucked and people made better alternatives

[limpid radish]

"""better"""

sodium sucks polytone sucks they all suck they all break resource packs that work perfectly fine on optifine

[stoic herald]

there is no such thing as working perfectly fine with optifine

[limpid radish]

sodium breaks vanilla core shaders shit that works fine on vanilla

[stoic herald]

it was incompatible with so many mods

[limpid radish]

no it wasnt

the only mod that was incompatible with optifine back in the day

was twilight forest

you could add optifine to most modpacks and it would work fine

no other game has 4 different modloaders for the same version

[drowsy bone]

*no other game has

4 different modloaders

for the same version*

- totallynotniteruxiswear

[hidden moat]

then just run optifine

world is your oyster

[hidden moat]

i think quilt is the worst thing to happen to minecraft modding

or the neverending forks of multimc

maybe peterix working at mojang means something

[limpid radish]

I can't because nowadays every mod under the sun seemingly kills compatibility with optifine on purpose

[hidden moat]

by saying just run optifine

i mean

install optifine

[limpid radish]

why would fabric be any better than quilt

at least quilt keeps some level of compatibility

while fabric is completely incompatible with forge and neoforge

[hidden moat]

reverse the question

[limpid radish]

because quilt at least keeps compatibility

fabric completely split the community

and kills compatibility with forge

[hidden moat]

idk men

i dont care about modding the game

i just wanna drink antifreeze and have fun

[limpid radish]

do you want to drink antifreeze together 🥺 👉👈

[hidden moat]

wow ur being so gay rn

+rep add me

[hidden moat]

sure

[limpid radish]

yoooo

dope

[stoic herald]

no, they aren't compatible with optifine because it isn't a good mod lol

[limpid radish]

name a single thing bad about optifine,,,

ohhh noooo it's closed source big fucking whoop so is minecraft closed source and I don't see modders not supporting that now either

i fucking hate moddersd

[hidden moat]

its developer is !!! taking money !!! for donatuiion!!!

Minecraft Megathread - cell towers

[limpid radish]

sodium literally shoves a giant popup in your face on first launch asking you to donate

and fingerprints your minecraft install so modpacks cant remove the popup with a configuration option

[limpid radish]

AND OBFUSCATED

Minecraft is NOT JUST CLOSED SOURCE but it is ALSO OBFUSCATED

yeah but Optifine ooh yeah optifine OPTIFINE is the clearly the bad guy

the minecraft community is insane absolutely 𝒹𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒𝒹 genuinely one of the 𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕤𝕥

There are plenty of other mods that are closed source and have NO compatibility issues

back in my day there was ONE modloader because that's sane and makes sense it isnt fucking insane like modern Minecraft is and now peoplea re fucking backporting fabric to older versions like we even need it we have tainted older versions with the stupidity of modern minecraft

[hidden moat]

because java

[limpid radish]

no it's because minecraft uses software called proguard

to obfuscate the game

[stoic herald]

I guess I'm sorry that the modders don't want to accommodate directly to you?

They aren't being paid to do this, if they don't like a tool and wish to use another one, that's their choice

[limpid radish]

who does it benefit at all to have 4 modloaders

even if 1 modloader has benefits over another

those should just be adapted all into 1 modloader

instead of having 4 separate modloader dev teams

[stoic herald]

I agree that it would probably be the best if there was one that combined the best parts of them all, but people disagree on things, which makes it difficult for everyone to work together on one

[tardy vigil]

just use fabric

[tardy vigil]

optifine loyalist i cant....

escort this jester out of the court immediately

[fierce mural]

lol

[limpid radish]

*cant name a single thing bad about optifine

[stoic herald]

Like I said, it has incompatibilities with a lot of mods

[drowsy bone]

*Like I said, it has

incompatibilities

with a lot of mods*

- mederp

[limpid radish]

that's the modders fault for purposefully not supporting it

They used to

in like 1.12, every single mod supports optifine

not today tho

[stoic herald]

It's a difficult mod to work with because it's proprietary and is designed in a way that makes it break a lot of stuff

[limpid radish]

oh nooo proprietary so scary

like i said

minecraft is more proprietary

it is

obfuscated

[lean imp]

what

[limpid radish]

and breaks shit every version

[lean imp]

mojang literally provides function and class names

[limpid radish]

every mod be breaking every single version

[limpid radish]

they are still reverse engineered from the compiled version, they aren't created with the same names that mojang themselves use

[lean imp]

there are literally official mappings

[limpid radish]

yes but they arent the same mappings mojang themselves use in development

[oak acorn]

you are wrong

[limpid radish]

also they're worse than 3rd party mappings

[oak acorn]

you are wrong

optifine was the worst thing to happen to minecraft ever guys

[limpid radish]

fucking nerd

[lean imp]

lmao

[oak acorn]

well you're an optifine user so who's the real loser huh

[lean imp]

source?

[limpid radish]

the mappings themselves

half of them are absolute garbo

and make no sense

[stoic herald]

but they provide them

[lean imp]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-19w36a

literally the official mappings

minecraft is far more open than most games

[oak acorn]

have you ever written a fabric mod or is this like a twitter paste

[limpid radish]

yes ive written fabric mods

[onyx vortex]

which ones

[limpid radish]

none of them that ive made for the latest version of minecraft are public but most of them remove features I dont like or tweak existing things such as the multiplayer connection screen

[stoic herald]

But going back to what I was saying, the issue with it being proprietary is that it makes it harder for other modders to figure out why it is breaking stuff with their mods

[limpid radish]

also what do you think about the mods that are popular enough that they have to support both major modloaders? Im sure that's really convenient to program and make

[lean imp]

you should do something about it!

[limpid radish]

destroying the minecraft community

[thin whale]

Dont worry guys im gonna create my own modloader and it will be so good everyone will start using it and surely it will not become just one more of the several modloaders that exist

[lean imp]

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[stoic herald]

hm today I am going to make a new performance mod

[limpid radish]

*killsyou

[hollow bobcat]

mastercomfigium

[limpid radish]

what is this looney toons ass shit

[tardy vigil]

bedrock is classic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1181606694980177940/D0E1Rafb.mp4?ex=665b337d&is=6659e1fd&hm=b1bd3e4bfb7ef31e55d39316473de8f14b63050e34149322b4832417714cfeeb&

piston bug setting ur coordinates to 0

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1177441170100604978/4q3FaAkY.mp4?ex=665b354a&is=6659e3ca&hm=5f9a9925e1fef9420c1f1740562edbad63c2fbeaa0fa2a4efcd3023d9dc17681& pig flies

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1155464625211588658/Rjv90m0l.mp4?ex=665b04ca&is=6659b34a&hm=94dd3a04de351f82e1df39b946856e5904ca27f644773be064b8cc9412f3d336& death portal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1148620829870002257/NNaxgE9w.mp4?ex=665b2b82&is=6659da02&hm=ccf7f212f7c78ed2f3d723972542d8440e3bf63ebc3fac728857a0c1ef38530e& cow dies for no reason

ender dog

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1140833450065154278/46nZ4qN5.mp4?ex=665b2f32&is=6659ddb2&hm=0e737616940100aaa4aad62c043ae5907fad14630d6bf75259b652f7fa402038&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1139355154198577323/zqIyZ8iI.mp4?ex=665b146c&is=6659c2ec&hm=923ec62ad66767d9ac448778f85dfe83603a688c50d0b48bf59fe599c92a7160& backrooms

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1139351672703963226/BNdSve93.mp4?ex=665b112e&is=6659bfae&hm=d0252f93009348d8750b2f9c5dc4cdb23287e27d0573c015093beb3188ecf9f6& eating food lets you phase through blocks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1139351018631598132/sVI9hGK1.mp4?ex=665b1092&is=6659bf12&hm=16565f5c224876f216cddcb8eb6a630fcbb456579249d225bbde3ddae5be5b8e& ghasts spawning in overworld

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1139348722279530607/OYF72jeY.mp4?ex=665b0e6f&is=6659bcef&hm=a6e21242ffb8f74b964b7781ff669d880a563de29444f3559f353659d5045bdc&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075937306986422309/1139348508088991875/puZNgocx.mp4?ex=665b0e3c&is=6659bcbc&hm=1d70bd29930e91399edf51c3d70b8f2695da5bfbd19edf6d2fb3bb03890251aa&

baiscally

its a very curious case of the buggiest game ever but i have never had any of this happen to me ever in bedrock

[limpid radish]

cracked versions of minecraft should set the language of the game to pirate speak by default

[hidden moat]

how would you check if the games pirated

[stoic herald]

if (minecraft.Pirated == true) {
  minecraft.lang == lang.Pirate;
}

[hidden moat]

mental illness codestyle

[summer rampart]

i swear the game wasn't this buggy in 0.8.5 i mean it still was but not that much. fall damage was determined by height instead of moment though

[waxen kelp]

Du bist gestorben!!!

[waxen kelp]

wrong, every subversion breaks every single mod somehow, mojang is incompetent

[waxen kelp]

could be worse, imagine if sp614x accepted the deal with mojang to import the optifine features in vanilla

I noticed these talks are kinda old, whoopsie

[waxen kelp]

Minecraft Windows 10 is being released on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3049290/Minecraft/

Steam

Minecraft

Explore, build, and survive in a blocky, pixelated world of endless possibilities with Minecraft! Craft your own adventure, from humble beginnings to grand creations. Join friends for multiplayer fun or go solo in a vast sandbox where your imagination is the only limit. Mine resources, battle creatures, and unleash your creativity in this iconic...

▶ Play video

"IS MINECRAFT VIOLENT?
Because combat is part of the game, there are some elements of mild violence. Players can hit and defeat both passive and hostile mobs, as well as other players if playing in multiplayer mode. However, the graphical violence is limited by Minecraft’s visual style and there’s no blood. When it comes to unwanted player violence like griefing, we encourage players to report griefing behavior."

this description is so stupid I cant wrap my head around it

[limpid radish]

it's not the windows 10 version because it says it supports m1 cpus

[waxen kelp]

it must be windows 10 version

[waxen kelp]

the video is from windows 10

[waxen kelp]

but that video is bedrock edition

[limpid radish]

honestly it's probably both

[waxen kelp]

are they dumm

are they going to add the WHOLE launcher?

god damn it

[limpid radish]

yes

[waxen kelp]

you are most likely correct

not sure why are they doing this

[limpid radish]

steam achievements!!!!!!!!!!

WAIT

[waxen kelp]

that seems... unlikely

but we will see

maybe its fake

theres no reason at all for xbox to do that

minecraft prints money as is

[onyx vortex]

i thought the video was the original minecraft trailer?

[waxen kelp]

water colors are post 1.13 colours

for bedrock

[onyx vortex]

the narration though?

[waxen kelp]

more vivid and biome colours are slightly different

ah I didnt have audio on

also it has the bedrock crafting menu

[onyx vortex]

which is funny

because isnt that a community video

[waxen kelp]

I am not sure . . .

mojang quite often steals from community

wouldnt be surprised

[onyx vortex]

https://youtu.be/MmB9b5njVbA

[waxen kelp]

this is old one

isnt the same

theres a v2 of this not sure where

also on closer inspection

[onyx vortex]

is the narration the same?

[waxen kelp]

they seem to be using connected glass and old textures

either modded or bedrock features

[onyx vortex]

well i really doubt theyd release anything but bedrock

[waxen kelp]

same narration

updated video

[waxen kelp]

this is the v2 of their trailer

its buried deep in their "content" in youtube channel

you can find it there

[waxen kelp]

probably not

m1 cpus cant run bedrock

so its probably the launcher

which is shitty but I expect no more from them

this is an unfinished page, we will get more details of that later on

[limpid radish]

it's over

they took it down

[onyx vortex]

theres no way its fake

[limpid radish]

killing myself

[onyx vortex]

the publisher and developer showed other minecraft titles

like minecraft dungeons

[limpid radish]

it's never been more over in the history of over

[hollow bobcat]

i thought that too but apparently they don’t need to be verified on steam?

[limpid radish]

we are at the lowest point

[hollow bobcat]

that’s what i heard at least

[onyx vortex]

i thought it was associated with account

[hollow bobcat]

if it is true i am totally publishing “skibidi toilet: the baby gronk chronicles” under valve

[limpid radish]

valve is really the worst company of all time huh?

[hollow bobcat]

#fixsteamdeveloperandpublisherlisting

[limpid radish]

actually sad

[halcyon depot]

wait looks like this was removed

[halcyon depot]

I remember this trailer, I would watch this on minecraft.net during school

[thin whale]

i swear this was not intentional

[onyx vortex]

me when i dont read 10 million messages that come after the first message

[stoic herald]

oh I missed getchoo's message

[onyx vortex]

whyd you delete it

now my message isnt funny anymore

[stoic herald]

i am trying to make you look bad

[waxen kelp]

it was fake

yippeeee

no minecraft on steam

[summer rampart]

Well if grallvm can convert MC to a exe and run it natively and no a java virtual machine is technically not native then it would be possible to convert a modable version if they for a way to do it in real time or convert mods to native which is more difficult it'd be better than bedrock, faster and use less ram.

[waxen kelp]

what are you talking about

[summer rampart]

A way of running it on steam. I don't think steam could use jdks and stuff

[lean imp]

why can't a java application be shipped on steam?

also, I fail to see how compiling a java app to native code would significantly save memory

[limpid radish]

steam already has a java app

spiral knights

i know at least that is on there

shipping a minecraft launcher is basically required since minecraft java edition has no built in way of managing accounts and signing into accounts, it fully relies on the launcher for account and license verification, mojang would have to add one or ship a launcher, even if barebones

maybe one day though

bedrock would be possible without a launcher tho

and would make more sense on steam since bedrock is always on the most recent version

[halcyon depot]

U got prismlauncher......

[limpid radish]

yes i use the prism launcher cli to launch minecraft java through steam

also can launch bedrock through steam though it's very hacky since it's a uwp app and there's not really a good way to launch those

[halcyon depot]

I have

MCPElauncher

for bedrock on Linux/MacOS

It uses the android version lol

[thin whale]

uhhhhh

[limpid radish]

this doesnt have todo with minecraf

t

[limpid radish]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

1 pixel image

cant read the logos

how did it make the text less legible

[waxen kelp]

I know developer team of both modpacks and gregtech

I can say gregtech dev team is AMAZING, they work so much on their pack

and valhelsia never intended to be a better vanilla

its just sandbox with extra stuff plopped in

[thin whale]

I heard that gregtech still doesnt have an ending

[hidden moat]

who is greg

[thin whale]

Anyways, i feel that im close to get the atm star, i just need to grind rftools and some items to get their compressed x6 versions

[waxen kelp]

gregtech new horizons does

[halcyon pewter]

@waxen kelp has leveled up! (44 ➜ 45)

[waxen kelp]

when did I reach 45 levels lol

[summer rampart]

i'm glad bedrock is becoming more hostile to modders and microsoft is removing mod support knowing full well they're just gonna sell mods instead and make it as hard as possible to make mods. in short if you aren't a cash cow to be milked they're taking you out to pasture.

[halcyon depot]

Microsoft is not removing mod support from the client

They are removing debugging symbols from the dedicated server binary

Which will make developing server-side plugins really harder than it is

Minecraft Add-Ons will still be around client side

and server side?

[waxen kelp]

bedrock is just more painful to develop anything than java

if little kids stopped playing minecraft the bedrock playerbase most literally die

[halcyon depot]

i am playing bedrock.....

[summer rampart]

why though? no seriously why? java just runs faster for me even with mods even before i switched to linux. bedrock was finee when it was catered towards mobile devices but now it's the most buggiest and resource intensive vanilla minecraft you could have.

i literally can't comprehend what's so good about it compared to java especially with their micro transactions and they don't even let you use your own player models but instead have a shop to buy parts like roblox. in such a way it's like modern legos. overpriced shit without really letting your put your imagination or creativity to any use. if anything i find all of it to go in the opposite direction. telling people to settle for what we offer you instead of making something by your own hands. ya know except modern legos is in all honesty just tiny ikea for kids.

there's even java mods for custom player models, animations, heights in all honesty i can see a frame work for a custom in-game character builder just by using a few mods as the backbone.

which....is kinda makes me sad that most people don't see minecraft as something you could use to role play. think of how many table top games could bee done in minecraft. with just terrain generation, custom mobs and custom player models? there's so much more potential than just some shitty wannabe that microsoft wants. i can't even all bedrock a roblox clone cause at least roblox allows guns and blood. it's being updated by a stupid company that has no idea wwhat they're doing.

[waxen kelp]

that actually makes me sad as well

most people I saw playing minecraft only kills the ender dragon and be like

Okay! finished minecraft!!!

[waxen kelp]

from several sources I can say microsoft never touched java edition too much except for multiplayer experience

which is where the difference comes from

[summer rampart]

honestly it's the same with me and terraria.

[waxen kelp]

microsoft takes java as a base and be like, how can we make money from it as a side version

[summer rampart]

i did love they changed how chunks worked and made it into cubes instead rectangluar prisms but that's it.

[waxen kelp]

bedrock has many issues, lighting looks off because of how they coded it in

[summer rampart]

fall damage is off because how mojang coded it

not turned off. it's broken

back in pocket edition it was determined by how many blocks down you went since touching the ground instead of momentum. even during 0.8.5 it was like this which i think is why players randomly die of fall damage even still.

[waxen kelp]

thats unrelated

why people die randomly from fall damage is because they copied how java hosts single player

and it kinda creates a server in itself

and sometimes when on corners client server has a mismatch of position on corners

which in server side player actually falls off

but client is having a normal experience then gets killed

[summer rampart]

i think some have died from a 3 block drop though which shouldn't happen

[waxen kelp]

thats when server tries to sync location and it just adds up blocks

bedrock is jankier than java

[summer rampart]

oooof

[waxen kelp]

java has improved SIGNIFICANTLY in past few years

not only thanks to fabric even tho it has huge inspiration for mojang devs

but also because of new developers having experience in newer versions of java

and using it for optimizations

[summer rampart]

fabric seems more friendly to modders than forge. i hear it's easier to update mods between fabric version.

or mc versions that fabric supports i mean

[waxen kelp]

forge was... agressive

neoforge is extremely good in sense of compatibility as well

recently they implemented common tags for items!

which lets developers use the multiloader compiler extension on github

and not need to change tags for each modloader

people might disagree here but I believe currently worst actively developed modloader is sadly quilt

has near to no content, born from drama, lives in drama and has several problems that they caused in themselves... that mentioning here wouldnt be right

[summer rampart]

honestly i couldn't give a shit about quilt, it's been too long and they have made no real impact from what i see and we really don't need more modloaders. i was already pissed about the separation between forge and fabric mods but in the end i like fabric more also cause nvidium but mostly it feels more stable and i get better fps. it's an overall improvement and quilt isn't helping with that. it just thinking cutting a piece of the pie and planting it is going to grow you a pie tree when it's not like that at all.

[hidden moat]

actively developed?

[waxen kelp]

quilt only caused unnecessary splitting

[waxen kelp]

it is still developed even tho theres chaos in mod team currently

[waxen kelp]

BUT BUT QUILT HAS THE UHHHH THE DYNAMIC LIGHTS MOD!!! IT WAS PERFECTLY COMPATIBLE WITH FABRIC BUT NOW WE MADE IT QUILT ONLY!! NO YOU CANT REPLACE QUILT WORDS WITH FABRIC YOU JUST CANT!!!!!

[summer rampart]

so why not use shaders?

[waxen kelp]

lmao, shaders give more fps than that dynamic lights mod

I LOVE builders QoL shaderpack

and the newest version of complementary is also amazing

the colored light addon is extremely good performant

[summer rampart]

honestly i think there's a mod allowing shaders to work together or on top of each other. i kinda wished there was a way to have it all run on vulkan.

[waxen kelp]

vulkanite exists

but its extremely early on

and not really usable

cortex is a bit busy with her other mods...

she is rare few mod developers that I actually respect

[summer rampart]

i heard it's for raytracing

[waxen kelp]

doesnt cause drama over unnecessary stuff, makes banger content and just extremely humble about it :)

[waxen kelp]

it uses vulkan but yet its for raytracing

theres also this new closed source mod for raytracing

but its a buggy mess

[summer rampart]

i don't really care about raytracing. i believe there's more performant solutions for equal results.

[waxen kelp]

well sadly not for minecraft

a game like cyberpunk indeed doesnt need ray tracing since it can literally bake the reflections in some way

but in minecraft everything is dynamic

even if player stands still, every tick the sun moves and lighting changes slightly, which means full rerender and calculation

so baking lights isnt possible, instead they have to recalculate shaders every tick which is expensive for gpu power

[summer rampart]

except that's pattern. the angle doesn't change meaning you could bake it but any changes may cause a lag spike especially with generating chunks

the sunlight is predictable

my point is instead of having to do more work constantly it'd be better to compartmentalize what needs to be done, redone and what hasn't chnaged

[waxen kelp]

ims had some work in that last year

lowering the accuracy and leaving some artifacts

but can instaed calculate lighting every few ticks instead

[summer rampart]

what if you could use movement prediction to sync a player shadow so it's movement doesn't look skippy say if you were on 60 fps but the shadow was on 15. wouldn't it lag behind?

[waxen kelp]

that goes way too hard on cpu for no real benefit, already tried I believe

[summer rampart]

that's fair

[waxen kelp]

yeah, opengl is a finnicky fuck so theres also several limitations

without raytracing player could only see blocks in front of him, and create colored lights/reflections according to that

[summer rampart]

i heard there was something in mesa called ....uuuh something? it ran vulkan over opengl whatever that means. it crashes on mc though XD

[waxen kelp]

thats for linux

also, tiny note, vulkan by default isnt any faster

[summer rampart]

i mean people have used it on android before a dev of a app stopped it cause crashes

[waxen kelp]

vulkan does open more ways to optimize the game but if you still do it the way opengl already does, then theres no real benefit

[summer rampart]

depends on the opengl version though.

[waxen kelp]

this applies to minecraft

[hollow bobcat]

java just runs faster for me even with mods even before i switched to linux
bedrock doesn't work on linux, how do you have a comparison?

also like

try upping the render distance on java

it has horrible performance

same with running it on a phone

[hollow bobcat]

literally can't comprehend what's so good about it compared to java especially with their micro transactions
actual social system, you can easily join your friends worlds, cross play
they don't even let you use your own player models but instead have a shop to buy parts like roblox
this is wrong
overpriced shit without really letting your put your imagination or creativity to any use
how does having optional things to buy made by the community (expressing their imagination and creativity) limit your imagination and creativity in game?
telling people to settle for what we offer you instead of making something by your own hands
how does bedrock discourage you from making your own things? it's basically the same exact game

[hidden moat]

me thinks bedrock has its advantages as it allows you to do these without essentially modding your game, for free

yet the limitations of being unable to utilise the space past 65k blocks is dawning

[halcyon depot]

Minecraft bedrock runs better than java with or without mods

[halcyon depot]

I can upload my own skin

And also add my own resource packs and behavior packs

[halcyon depot]

Fr?

[waxen kelp]

yes.

[halcyon pewter]

@waxen kelp has earned the Level 1 noob role!

[halcyon depot]

It does

Mcpelauncher

[waxen kelp]

yes.

[halcyon depot]

Is this lamb dynamic lights?

[waxen kelp]

yes

[summer rampart]

They didn't know there was mods for bedrock?

Not addons, like an actual mod launcher

[halcyon depot]

https://github.com/LambdAurora/LambDynamicLights/issues/219

Lol

[limpid radish]

there's already a fork of it

[summer rampart]

Locked for being "Too heated" lol

[limpid radish]

that updates it and ports it to forge

[halcyon depot]

What is the name of fork

[limpid radish]

https://modrinth.com/mod/ryoamiclights

[halcyon depot]

Thanks

[limpid radish]

LambdAurora fell off 😔

[summer rampart]

I wonder if there's actually a flashlight mod

[halcyon depot]

Ewwwwwwww

They recommend embeddium

Gross

[summer rampart]

Idk why but after playing fallout games with darker nights i kinda wanna try minecraft with something similiar.

[limpid radish]

well sodium doesnt officially support forge, they also recommend sodium for fabric...

[halcyon depot]

Forge sucks

[limpid radish]

sir it's an architectury port

[halcyon depot]

Actually

Looks like ryoamic lights supports neoforge

For greater than 1.20.1

https://github.com/ThinkingStudios/RyoamicLights

[summer rampart]

I still don't know why people don't just use shaders for dynamic lights.

[drowsy bone]

*I still don't know why

people don't just use shaders

for dynamic lights.*

- jimbimbum

[limpid radish]

yeah because architectury............

[summer rampart]

It's a mod that requires a framework.

[limpid radish]

because shaders run like shid and dont always apply lights to entities

[summer rampart]

Probably cause most of them are the same and there's a way for mods to use shaders together but idk what mod it was or how.

Also why the fuck can children of light have such good volumetric clouds but when minecraft shaders does it my fucking game cries and bleeds fps.

[stoic herald]

Java edition is particually known for it's good optimization

also, Java

[summer rampart]

I'm serious, they use vulkan and it runs so fast on my gt1030 but when minecraft does it, i can barely hold 30 fps.

[limpid radish]

i think it's because everything is exclusively done through gpu instead of where a game with its own coding can use both the cpu and the gpu to full advantage

there's a good volumetric clouds mod without shaders

https://modrinth.com/mod/better-clouds

[summer rampart]

Please share it with me! They're so fluffy it makes me feel like i have a good graphice withdrawal trying to play XD

Also thanks

Never mind it looks bad DX

Also i can't imagine the transparency is any better for performance. Other ones i've seen used dithering somewhat even in that other game and the mc mods. Not to mention it's just so...pollution of the world looking.

[limpid radish]

it doesnty reallly have any effect on performance at all

the mod

default minecraft clouds are already translucent

[summer rampart]

Yeah but it looks worse. What i mean is, it reminds me of roblox

Just vanilla or actual volumetric clouds are just better

[drowsy bone]

*Just vanilla or

actual volumetric

clouds are just better*

- jimbimbum

[waxen kelp]

embeddium is better.

[limpid radish]

it's not

it's worse than sodium in basically every way

if you think it's better than you're stupid

[sleek thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/schopenhauer-nikkalords-gwenlol-gwen-futa-gif-25803823

[halcyon depot]

it's not

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084121019301769307/1137249549484822608/hunter.gif

[waxen kelp]

why

[halcyon depot]

stinky

[waxen kelp]

give me a good reason

and I will accept it

[halcyon depot]

I already did

https://tenor.com/view/curse-of-bast-curse-of-ra-curse-pharaoh's-curse-silly-cat-gif-780702971204810824

[waxen kelp]

-w-

[hollow bobcat]

idk why people actually say this is cross platform support

cause it sucks tbh

[waxen kelp]

it does but microsoft sucks more

bad game better than no game...

thats incorrect

but you get the idea

[hollow bobcat]

i mean you can just play java

native mac and linux support is a big reason that edition still exists

and like, if there's anything you should actually be mad at ms for, it's probably not porting the most popular edition of mc to at least macos