#Dota 2 Megathread - in my 6-7 era

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solid oxide
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like literally

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and then he gets fed and then people still dont know what to do about him

snow ruin
solid oxide
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they give em the healing shock

snow ruin
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i feel like that

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pick rate

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in immortal

polar marten
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bring back seasons

snow ruin
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is too low

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not tested enough

polar marten
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those strokes.. i mean.. the way i stro.. uh.. the grim is stroke

solid oxide
snow ruin
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also talking about safe lane carries

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i think rank confidence is better than seasons

polar marten
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look up mmr inflation

snow ruin
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they just have to adjust it

polar marten
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✍️

solid oxide
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anyways cant wait for the next event

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hopefully they keep the setting interesting

rigid dawn
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7.34 revenants brooch was fun

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i mean as od

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direct upgrade to witch blade that had mystic staff component

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you suddenly start doing double damage to high armour opponents when you casted it

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and you pierce any supports who build ebalde to avoid getting burst right click by you

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7.35 wasn't bad either spell lifesteal was great
and od had infinite mana pool

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7.38 revenants brooch made it into a more genric armour counter item. Honestly ethereal pierce was what made it so great

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ig everybody buy nullifier now

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or play muerta

polar marten
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why is muerta still int

rigid dawn
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cause valve never wanted muerta to be a true carry

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int muerta is fine

polar marten
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its the only character thats out in 10000 years thats a true carry in any capacity

rigid dawn
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you don't want to live the horrors of agi/uni muerta

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a good muerta is already really difficult to counter if you leave her uncontested

polar marten
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wonder if arc is destroying pubs

rigid dawn
polar marten
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please do

rigid dawn
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no

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you try and tell me

polar marten
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its two characters to control its not that hard bro

rigid dawn
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it isn't hard

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its mostly fine

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its just too much stress

polar marten
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my brain isnt fit for more than one unit

rigid dawn
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i get too stressed by controlling one charecter

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i have enough stress from 1v5ing in herald

polar marten
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true

rigid dawn
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had this peak game where i pushed all toewrs

polar marten
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i feel you bro

rigid dawn
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i had 60% of team kills and 90% kill participation

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and for some reason we were still even on kills cause my beautiful teammates kept feeding 24/7

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I nearly won

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and i threw it all at the end due to a terrible misclick

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Gets silenced, presses ult and refresher

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🙂

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i haven't played ranked dota ever since

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idk how matchmake is so bad i literally get 4 fucking bots

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and the enemy has 4 competent players who have decent k/d

polar marten
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i dont get how this game manages to have competent players alongside people with actual learning disabilities

rigid dawn
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No like the fucking enemy team all had buybacks

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my team on the other hand? none nada

polar marten
rigid dawn
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clownfest of teammates

polar marten
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i trolled my bro who was 3.5k mmr with 7k hours but that shit is legit unimportant.. Ive grown up... its my birthday today please give me heroin money

polar marten
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yez

rigid dawn
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happy birth talnon

polar marten
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Thank m,en

rigid dawn
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may you have a great day <3

heady gust
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this how i feel after setting all multiplayer games in my library to hidden

solid oxide
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has rank confidence always fallen this bad

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i feel like its dropping much quicker as of late

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i have been playing infrequently but idk

polar marten
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~2 per day after a period

solid oxide
zenith kite
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I need to watch some pro dota again

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The teams are so wack rn though

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I was watching a lot last year

polar marten
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theyre trying to say something

polar marten
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thank god 🙏

solid oxide
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gang gang

polar marten
solid oxide
solid oxide
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remember what they took from you

polar marten
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ion remember this

solid oxide
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it was introduced with shards

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it was ass it lasted 4 months

polar marten
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fish bait

solid oxide
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what are they even doing

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lane swap detection punishment?

polar marten
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"playing the lanes conventionally"

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offlane was meant to be played off.. the lane

polar marten
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thought the most dogshit facet was removed? this guy is still here

polar marten
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im still as bad

solid oxide
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learn something only not to apply the knowledge

snow ruin
polar marten
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44% solo ranked wr

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pfc will turn on someday

snow ruin
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boots? 💀

polar marten
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good marci yump

rigid dawn
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they are edging the sf

heady gust
snow ruin
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wow

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i kinda forgot about purge

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he deserves a lot more attention imo

solid oxide
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i regard purge as the best guy

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a lot of what i learned (but havent applied yet) is just from me watching him play

heady gust
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purge is the dota jesus

rigid dawn
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peak cinema

rigid dawn
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@polar marten you ask arc warden status:

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is good? in herald?

polar marten
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probably

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when i play guardian there are mentally impaired people

rigid dawn
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well point targetable dome is really really good

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like back to old arc status

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clone seems pretty ehhhh

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low duration

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keeps loosing move speed

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its more like a temporary clone that does burst damage and leaves

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really good for split pushing and making lategame's a living pain for your enemies

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so yeah arc warden is back

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power capture might be much better than runed replica

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need to see

polar marten
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+4.5 stat every 2 mins? ideally?

rigid dawn
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after the first two water runes

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seems pretty bonkers

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the high mmr people are cooking so hard with np carry

glass thornBOT
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*the high mmr

people are cooking so hard

with np carry*

rigid dawn
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4k matches 54.6% wr

polar marten
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yeah

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braindead carry mmr pool:
tiny np lifestealer

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who else

rigid dawn
snow ruin
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wtff

solid oxide
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solid oxide
heady gust
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yea im glad i stopped because a fucking monkey is playing better than me now.

snow ruin
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im pretty sure thats a replay

solid oxide
polar marten
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dont look at how thats a replay.

rigid dawn
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Old pudge shard would have been one of the strongest synergies with new dazzle ult

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I can't help but feel they removed pudge shard due to that :p

solid oxide
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nahh

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were getting a frog hero next

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and theyre gonna add the swallow an ally to keep them safe thing as an abiltiy to them

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dataminers said so...

rigid dawn
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sadge

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ambulance pudge was so good

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just because another hero is getting it doesn't mean you nerf my pudge

polar marten
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mmm ZAMN

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froge

solid oxide
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no

solid oxide
rigid dawn
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The clown rat I strive to be

zenith kite
surreal plinth
heady gust
polar marten
heady gust
solid oxide
solid oxide
solid oxide
rigid dawn
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This legitimately seems fun

polar marten
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and so is every other thing that benefits from being actively used with zero cooldown

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ursa is the easier one to see

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and to smash ur fingers to

snow ruin
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heady gust
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@solid oxide pc config and dota fps?

solid oxide
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no config

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game runs fine

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i have everything on max except shadows are just high

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and no high quality water cuz i dont like how it looks

heady gust
solid oxide
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oh i run low end atm

heady gust
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because what im tryna figure out is if my pc was shitty at running dota

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or the game itself is getting harder to run

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i've heard it's so cpu heavy because they don't run game logic in the conventional way, in the sense that everything it just lua scripts or something

snow ruin
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the base game is mostly c++

snow ruin
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this makes ranked WAY more serious wtf

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also now no one gets to learn from the pros

rigid dawn
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why tho :<

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why did they do this

snow ruin
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its only for the professional scene

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it sucks for everyone else

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it basically makes immortal draft into pro-lite

rigid dawn
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hmm

snow ruin
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now, high skill players have to stream for anyone to view their gameplay

glass thornBOT
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*now, high skill players

have to stream for anyone

to view their gameplay*

snow ruin
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so we can't really learn from any high skill players

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which was one of the major selling points of dota 2

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vs. league

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but now they get to hide strats i guess

rigid dawn
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this is sad

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seems like I found a really decent tinker strat

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Meteor hammer on tinker

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Unironically good

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All the enemies tried so hard to stop me to just fail

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also yellow item that makes you big is really good

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bkb, meme hammer, fly away laughing

rigid dawn
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lines up perfectly with wave spawns

solid oxide
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i think a good compromise would be to make it toggleable

snow ruin
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how

solid oxide
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ok not a compromise but

snow ruin
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toggleable how

solid oxide
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moreover i want to see how many people would willingly activate it

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the pro player could expose their match data

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or atlernatively i guess

snow ruin
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but that exposed everyones match data

solid oxide
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dota could just anonymize every player

snow ruin
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still would disclose strats

solid oxide
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hm

snow ruin
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how would they anonymize replays

solid oxide
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not so easy then

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hide names and chat logs

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also wait

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doesnt this mean the watch tab is dead now lol

snow ruin
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idk i didnt check if watching is still allowed

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but like idk

solid oxide
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i have mixed feelings on this change

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it sucks for me cuz i rely on d2pt

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but we'll see

snow ruin
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its really weird bc

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is ranked matchmaking really supposed to like

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private scrims

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the whole immortal draft i think was a mistake

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i think instead they should make 8.5k the max mmr in ranked

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and if youre 8.5k mmr you unlock immortal draft

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which can rank past that

solid oxide
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and then its like cs rating

snow ruin
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yes

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exactly

solid oxide
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oh shit

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that unlocks premier mode

dusk oyster
snow ruin
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yes

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like idk

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it feels like valve already kinda solved this

solid oxide
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what was the function of launch immortal draft to begin with tho

snow ruin
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idk i think immortals were complaining about something

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like the games werent fair

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because it was like

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at that level

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the matchmaker cannot like

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balance for self drafting

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since minor differences matter, hero advantages become really important

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and people were griefing drafts basically

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and itd be an auto lose

solid oxide
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what if they added league forfeit in immortal draft

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cuz i feel like

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like

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isnt people just giving up and not playing a thing up there

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though whatever thats like

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saving 6 mins

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for them

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i think valve is being valve and are experimenting again

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theyll probably see the ramifications of this and maybe revert it in like two weeks

snow ruin
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idk i think like

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if valve wants to make faceit/private

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then do that

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ranked is something else

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ranked is meant to be pubs

solid oxide
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true

solid oxide
polar marten
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good thing they upped the mmr needed for immortal draft

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bad thing rurugate happened again

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wonder if that impacted valves decision on ranked anything

solid oxide
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the noob

snow ruin
polar marten
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immortal is 6300~

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oh wait no more parties queueing?

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steamhappy.

snow ruin
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no it was raised to 6500

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in a previous update

polar marten
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vas

snow ruin
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"Raised the minimum MMR to be eligible for Immortal Draft from 5620 to 6500"

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7.33c

polar marten
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ic

snow ruin
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lmao

polar marten
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immortal draft in rapiers?

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snow ruin
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tracking mmr inflation

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uuff im soo full of mmr..

polar marten
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tracking but not working against it

snow ruin
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just like capitalism and minimum wage...

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vros this is deep ..

polar marten
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Season 5 Live 15.10.2020 – Running

rigid dawn
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a very balanced hero both before and after the patch

polar marten
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congrats on getting guardian 1

polar marten
snow ruin
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wait did they break it

polar marten
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no those are players below 8500

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working perfectly fine

rigid dawn
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Dude can you pick a real hero HOLY crap why are we picking pango in 2025? Arent you tryign to play pro or soetmhing? How about we play heroes that arent the objective best heroes in the game? You're genuinely a horrible horrible player. You just draw aggro off cooldown. I lost all respect for you. Imagine trying to play pro and picking pango every game in pubs. Truly disgusting. Your'e just a coward tbh. You dont know whats good against lesh so you pick pango cause its easy. Every game you pick that hero you get worse. And you're already horrible.

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  • Won 4 games mid against similar bracket
    I feel great rn
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But yeah again those who always go 5 man into games generally have inflated mmr.

snow ruin
solid oxide
polar marten
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does he know

rigid dawn
polar marten
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Happens.

solid oxide
solid oxide
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🗑️

rigid dawn
solid oxide
polar marten
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hoodwink oneshot build might be barack.

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daedalus users seethe

rigid dawn
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Tony Airlines

solid oxide
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og was eliminated from open quals by fortniteman again

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khezu (og coach) talking about his team in the twitch stream for the game lol

heady gust
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fortniteman

solid oxide
snow ruin
heady gust
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get a popfilter before you try and get on voice acting lil bro

glass thornBOT
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*get a popfilter

before you try and get on

voice acting lil bro*

solid oxide
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having no pop filter is soul

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im not putting a sock over my mic

polar marten
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sock is the soul tho

heady gust
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i'd play dota if it still looked like that

solid oxide
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you wouldnt tho

solid oxide
heady gust
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thing is i couldn't play an already hard game without individual couriers and tp slot

rigid dawn
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The more cancerous version of the laser artillery strike

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When rubick does it

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AOE increases on every cast

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Lower coodlown

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More spell amp

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Time Cube has now a purpose in the game!

polar marten
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rubick also gets stacks for using reincarnation. Subscribe for more useless facts

solid oxide
solid oxide
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can use auto translate function in subtitles

solid oxide
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@polar marten

polar marten
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biggest slark hater

heady gust
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what happened to talon

polar marten
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its in the game

solid oxide
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omg david lynch

solid oxide
rigid dawn
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the doctor is in

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Honestly team was really great

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Dusa listened to me when she made mistakes and bought a bkb to deal with tinker dealing with her

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Ursa actually played like an offlaner and solo'ed rosh when I told him to

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Zeus did some top tier supporting and warding

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And my mid was running around and killing people the entire game rather than playing farming sim

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me when i have a functional team in solo queue dota

rigid dawn
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me taking gris gris to next match :>

solid oxide
solid oxide
rigid dawn
rigid dawn
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@solid oxide @snow ruin

heady gust
solid oxide
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polar marten
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solid oxide
surreal plinth
rigid dawn
solid oxide
polar marten
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i wonder

frosty trellis
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what is a brain dead hero that i can play to learn dota

polar marten
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choose one that u like by the looks

solid oxide
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https://youtu.be/3qEIQCffp0I hate to link the 25 min powerpoint presentation but i think thisll help you determine what you want to be doing in the game

In this new player guide, I explain the different roles and positions of Dota 2 to help you understand which role you might want to play. I also recommend some of the best roles for beginner players to learn Dota 2.

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0:00 Position 1-5 number explanation (Farm Priority)
1:28 Where do the positions play on the map?
4:16 Basic jobs in Do...

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thisll help narrow down the heroes you can play

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dont worry, this is arguably the best new player resource

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id watch this in your offtime like when youre eating

frosty trellis
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im playing it rn

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so far i died to the same guy like 4 times lmfao

solid oxide
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do i have you on steam friends

frosty trellis
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i dont think so

polar marten
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Relax, you're doing fine.

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🔽
🔽
🔽

solid oxide
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alright lemme spectate you

frosty trellis
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oh we just lost

solid oxide
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aww

frosty trellis
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that was not a fun 40 mins lmfao

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ts so stupid

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i tried to farm jungle but i got like insta 2 shotted somehow

solid oxide
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yeah it lookis like there were way too many people trying to do the same thing

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ohh

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yikes

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lol

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they somehow mustve known you were there

frosty trellis
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me farming and insta dying

solid oxide
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he wasted his ult on you which basically deals damage based on the difference of how much mana you two have

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looks like him and pa were dominating the entire game

frosty trellis
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i couldnt farm at all.

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i got ganked instantly

solid oxide
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wk isnt really a hero that is able to farm naturally without items unfortunately

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well you do have bone guard but its still hard

frosty trellis
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theres just alot of shit in the shop tbh! i think its overwhelming when i have to quickly read wtf they do

solid oxide
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playing dota is like driving a car kind of

frosty trellis
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idk that was just kinda a frustrating game

solid oxide
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it can be overwhelming when you do it for the first time

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but yeah i can see how that game couldve been frustrating

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when you play dota how are you picturing things going

frosty trellis
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it is a overwhelming game

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all i know is farm level up and go attack

solid oxide
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hmm

frosty trellis
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i wish dota had like a shop like deadlock where its easy to read on the fly

solid oxide
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like a guide?

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or something that just simplifies information

frosty trellis
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simplify info

solid oxide
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you can try enabling enable simple shop in the options

frosty trellis
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like this is easier to read than like "stick of enchanted hell"

solid oxide
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so instead of this it looks like

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this instead

frosty trellis
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okay yea that is better

solid oxide
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after youre done with those items it moves onto a different category

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when youre starting out as a new player you dont need to worry too much about figuring out the best items as its best to just familiarize yourself with whatever the game gives you, i guess

frosty trellis
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i hope my next games arent frustrating as hell

solid oxide
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you could try playing with me or some others here next time

frosty trellis
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1-17 jesus christ lmfao

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maybe later tonight? idk if you would like macroing me tho

solid oxide
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im cool with it

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but yeah we would have to take things slow

frosty trellis
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what else hero should i play? i was getting hard countered by the dude who dropped 20 kills

solid oxide
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idk if hes a direct counter to you, its more that like

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basically, in dota pretty much every hero is super strong if theyre fed that much

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one thing you can try is to avoid dying which is easier said than done, i get that

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so

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what happened here is that on your side of the map on that cliff in the red circle, the enemy team managed to set up wards

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wards are invisible

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but

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orange wards give vision, but blue wards let you see invisible units

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so he was farming the mid lane, saw you were farming there and was nearby so he figured he might as well swoop in and slurp you up (this is what he was seeing)

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what a bully

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thats what happened in your clip

solid oxide
frosty trellis
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so my solution to not dying was just not farm and be stuck at level 13

solid oxide
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you or your team can set up wards that give you information on the map, which you can also gather information from

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no not really

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it just wasnt a safe place to farm

frosty trellis
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how could ive catched up on levels? everyone was 20+

solid oxide
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the way you gain levels is by being nearby dying neutral/enemy units

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not too nearby but not too far

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when youre dead youre essentially missing out on both gold and xp

frosty trellis
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so i shouldve farmed near my tower?

solid oxide
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point is, even if youre standing around in a lane doing fuck all youre still getting some benefit

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generally speaking, lane creeps give you the most for farming them

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you gain xp, more gold than neutrals, you push the wave closer to their tower

frosty trellis
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i think i got jumped like 4 times just for farming creeps tho

solid oxide
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when you farm lane creeps you need to remember that those are the enemy teams creeps which means they can see you while youre doing it

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if youre not confident that you know what the enemy team's move is, its probably better to look elsewhere to farm or do something

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there are some heroes that can walk up to a wave, press a single button and immediately run away, pushing it and farming it a bit

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but because youd take a bit to clear out the wave, people can take advantage of that so be careful

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the minimap is your best friend

frosty trellis
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is the new player mode just all bots

solid oxide
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the new player mode fills out any empty slots with bots if it cant find players in time

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but nobody plays that gamemode anymore so yeah pretty much

glass thornBOT
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*but nobody plays

that gamemode anymore

so yeah pretty much*

solid oxide
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playing against bots isnt the worst thing though but yeah

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its a bit deceiving

frosty trellis
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so stupid

solid oxide
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oh and

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we can host a private lobby for us to play together against bots at our own pace

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you can press f9 to pause the game in dota but in private lobbies we can do it as long as we want to

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so if you ever feel like you need to take your time with something feel free

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anyways the bots in dota are really dumb so you shouldnt struggle much if i help you out

frosty trellis
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first time i tried new player mode my dumb bot teammate wouldnt help gank...

solid oxide
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theyre using bot ai from like 6 years ago

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that means

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that they dont know a lot of new mechanics

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they dont know the new map

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they dont know a lot of heroes and sometimes they just straight up cheat

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well they dont cheat but

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this guy somehow got ult at level 5

frosty trellis
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awesome

solid oxide
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just a funny bug though

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anyways i watched a bit of your replay and you really seem overwhelmed and confused

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which is natural

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rome wasnt built in a day and nobody learns all of dota in a day

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im still learning too

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well more like

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i keep relearning it

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because i keep forgetting how to play but thats a me problem

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you shouldnt have any issue with that

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one cool thing you can do is navigate to your heroes tab and select 4 heroes to ban before you even queue for a matc

frosty trellis
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i didnt even know that

solid oxide
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its not a core mechanic of the game

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but its neat to have if playing against some heroes is just annoying to you

frosty trellis
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you taught me more than i learned in game lmao

solid oxide
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im a little hesitant with teaching you too much because im not sure if attempting to absorb so much information at once can be overwhelming too

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but i guess its better than being thrown into something and not knowing what to do

frosty trellis
#

better than like spending 40+ mins to go 1-17 and nearly quitting

solid oxide
#

true lol

frosty trellis
#

is there mm penalty for leaving

solid oxide
#

in new player mode or custom lobbies no

frosty trellis
#

i wish there was like a ff or shorter matches

solid oxide
#

they only recently added ff but its for 5 stacks only

#

you can play shorter matches with turbo mode

#

turbo mode gives you a lot more gold, xp for anything, couriers are invulnurable and near instantly deliver items and towers have very little health

#

this results in about half as long matches

frosty trellis
#

ill try to play like maybe a match a day to try to learn

frosty trellis
solid oxide
#

yeah

#

you get a 30 min penalty

#

its ok to leave very rarely, like once in every 30 or so games idk

#

i dont remember precisely

#

if you try leaving more than that though youll likely get like actual matchmaking penalties

#

nothing like a ban though

frosty trellis
#

2 week mm ban bc i wasnt having fun...

solid oxide
#

nahhh

#

definitely not 2 weeks

frosty trellis
#

does it not stack

solid oxide
#

if youre getting banned for more than like 2 hours you probably did something worse than leave a game

#

idk i never tried

#

you have this on your profile

#

so behavior score reflects your ingame actions which will be deducted for leaving the game for example

#

usually when i leave i hang around 10k

#

not below it but just a bit above it

#

if youre atleast 10k you have nothing to worry about

#

communication score reflects the quality of your communication with your team

frosty trellis
#

wow

#

i hope sometime soon i can have like a basic understanding so i can join in on the gamrs

solid oxide
#

behavior score:
3000 - unlocks ranked, 5000 - unlocks pausing, 7000 - unlocks requesting a coach, post game drops, 10000 - unlocks being a coach
communication score:
3000 - unthrottles your messages (30s cd on pings, alerts, chatwheels), 5000 - unlocks map drawing, 6000 - unlocks text chat, mini profile, 7000 - unlocks ingame tipping, requesting a coach, 8000 - unlocks voice chat, 10000 - unlocks being a coach

#

not really something u have to know

#

just funny to know

#

ive never dropped below 10k and im toxic sometimes to my enemies

#

bad manners and taunting is pretty acceptable here

frosty trellis
#

do you happen to know what score you start at?

solid oxide
#

pretty sure everyone starts at 12k

#

im talkign about behavior score like its something youll have to worry about much but dont worry

#

this only ever comes up if youre literally hitler in dota

frosty trellis
#

LMAO

solid oxide
#

its genuinely so hard to get banned from dota unless youre literally deliberately griefing

frosty trellis
#

being toxic in a 5v5 competitive game....

solid oxide
#

like extremely obviously griefing with no doubt

frosty trellis
#

i was so tempted to go afk in my match and just watch youtube

solid oxide
#

noone gets banned from dota and barely anyone gets below 10k

#

i mean i dont blame you

#

it seemed like a frustrating experience

#

https://youtu.be/3qEIQCffp0I if you have any free time to waste you can try watching this

In this new player guide, I explain the different roles and positions of Dota 2 to help you understand which role you might want to play. I also recommend some of the best roles for beginner players to learn Dota 2.

Timestamps
0:00 Position 1-5 number explanation (Farm Priority)
1:28 Where do the positions play on the map?
4:16 Basic jobs in Do...

▶ Play video
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its very simple and informative and fun to watch imo

glass thornBOT
#

*its very simple

and informative and fun

to watch imo*

solid oxide
#

itll help you narrow down your desired role in the game

frosty trellis
#

i was trying to farm enuf to go kill

solid oxide
#

mhm

#

itll also help you understand the other roles in the game

#

but im gathering you want to play as someone who farms and kills people afterwards

#

so that means you wanna play carry

#

you go from the weakest to strongest as the game progresses

#

the video touches on that kind of thing, its a good watch while youre eating or lying down or something

frosty trellis
#

youtube and food

solid oxide
#

this guy does a far better job than i ever could at explaining

glass thornBOT
#

*this guy does a far

better job than i ever

could at explaining*

solid oxide
#

its our ancient desire of a royal king to have entertainment while we eat

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youtube is our jester

frosty trellis
#

your honor, i request a video essay with my nourishment

frosty trellis
#

i just ik its gonna be frustrating and tedious to learn dota but whatever

solid oxide
#

just try not to let anything intimidate you

#

dota is all about exploration

#

for some it might be a bit frustrating but something that dota does is that its insanely rewarding

#

the reason we play it so much is that nothing else hits quite as hard

glass thornBOT
#

*the reason we play

it so much is that nothing

else hits quite as hard*

solid oxide
#

its literally so rewarding in a way its addictive

#

things like learning something, applying that knowledge and getting a good result out of it does something insane to your brain

frosty trellis
#

dota drug

#

i hope it becomes fun for me

solid oxide
#

we hope so too

#

were missing a fifth guy

frosty trellis
#

the 5th guy...

#

i guess the only good thing i did in that match was take down a tower even tho i died instantly after

solid oxide
#

the name of the game is objectives

#

killing people and getting gold helps you achieve certain objectives

glass thornBOT
#

*killing people and

getting gold helps you achieve

certain objectives*

solid oxide
#

its always nice to kill people and get gold but you always have to think "how does this help me get the objective"

#

sometimes its fine to even force people to kill you

#

cause when you understand a lot of the nuance you can do some things like force people to walk all the way over to you and deal with you, maybe not even killing you just so they can keep the tower alive

#

anyways dying for a tower isnt the worst thing, its a trade and can be worth it

frosty trellis
#

like making that guy waste his ult while i was farming 💀

solid oxide
#

yeah idk why he did that

#

it was kinda overkill

frosty trellis
#

i think one time i got triple ganked for no reason too

#

i wasnt feedibg i was creating diversions trollfig

#

were my teammates up to anything good?

#

watchin the video rn

#

of course with food 🥪

solid oxide
#

the axe probably was the only good player cuz he died only once

#

even though his item build is weird af

frosty trellis
#

ok yea i guess i wasnt suppose to be in that lane lmfao

glass thornBOT
#

*ok yea i guess

i wasnt suppose to be

in that lane lmfao*

solid oxide
#

he explains this later but when youre a new player, both of the core and both of the support lanes can be essentially the same

#

core is the farmer and killer and the support is, well the support

frosty trellis
#

are you still watching my game or nah

solid oxide
#

i watched a bit of it

#

i really just conclude that you have no idea what youre doing and i mean that in a non insult way

#

itd be really helpful for someone to show you the way

#

for starters you just didnt know where to go, you didnt get any starting items, you didnt know how the game works before the horn blows which meant at -1 minute you were almost at their side of the map

#

then you realized your allies are hanging around mid for some reason so you went there, stood behind your teammates because you werent sure how to join in on the fight because you didnt skill the stun, you skilled the passive

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if we play ill be supporting you since thatd be much easier

glass thornBOT
#

*if we play ill be

supporting you since thatd

be much easier*

solid oxide
#

ill try not to get ahead of you

snow ruin
#

verano is a mid player

#

for sure

#

he should play storm spirit

solid oxide
#

zquixotix suggested that even if you wanna do mid itd be best to start out on the sidelanes if youre just grasping the very fundamentals

snow ruin
#

you should play mid first

solid oxide
#

hmm

snow ruin
#

its the most personal role

frosty trellis
#

i guess i mean i do like taking 1v1s instead of 2v2s

snow ruin
#

verano is a storm main

solid oxide
#

i suppose i can show you the ropes of how to play mid lane

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and how to play storm

#

im definitely not a specialist in those things though

frosty trellis
#

i think it would be more fun for me either way, i just wanna pvp off rip lmao

solid oxide
#

holy

snow ruin
#

watch this 45 minute video

solid oxide
#

were just giving you homework at this point

snow ruin
#

just play

frosty trellis
#

homework before the game

solid oxide
#

should he finish the video i sent him

snow ruin
#

just realize its gonna be unfun for about 100 hours

#

no matter what you do

solid oxide
#

anything can be fun with good friends

frosty trellis
#

i already finished the video you sent

snow ruin
#

you have to rawdog it

solid oxide
#

ah good

snow ruin
#

and it sucks

solid oxide
#

but i guess thats true

snow ruin
#

its really unfun

#

confusing

#

terrible

frosty trellis
#

yea that i was afraid of but whatever

snow ruin
#

unlike other drugs you dont get hooked the first rip

#

your body has to build up the high

solid oxide
#

does he have to play for 100 hours alone or can he come along with others

snow ruin
#

he can do anything

#

just needs to play 100 hours of player vs player unranked dota

solid oxide
#

funnily thats the requirement for unlocking ranked

frosty trellis
#

so i should play storm spirt mid for the next time i play

#

THE BEST AND ONLY STORM GUIDE YOU WILL EVER NEED
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3313464089(ingame guide)
Watch on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/iAnnihilate
Follow on twitter: https://twitter.com/iAnnihilatedota

00:00 INTRO
01:30 ABILITY OVERVIEW TIPS N TRICKS
09:02 WHEN TO PICK STORM COUNTERS/SYNERGIES
13:25 ITEM BUILDS...

▶ Play video
snow ruin
#

yes

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no

#

blitz is better

#

blitz is a GOD he earned the title of GOD in dota 2 which permanently makes him the best storm player, he INVENTED playing storm

#

he knows the hero better than anyone else and everyone else learned from him

#

just like BurNing anti mage GOD

#

he invented anti mage meta

#

for over a decade these heroes are defined by these players

solid oxide
#

dendi pudge god

snow ruin
#

merlini zeus god

frosty trellis
#

surely the fun begins soon

solid oxide
#

well lets not get all pessimistic

#

half of the fun comes from your own attitude so

#

having someone along for the ride makes it more helpful

#

if youre gonna play mid ill have to play 4 and try to rotate mid

glass thornBOT
#

*if youre gonna play

mid ill have to play 4 and

try to rotate mid*

snow ruin
#

its awful

#

the game is too overwhelming to enjoy with friends

frosty trellis
#

yea i think rayne needs to macro me to make it enjoyable at the bare minimum

snow ruin
#

yeah people who spectate you

solid oxide
#

idk from my personal experience i have a blast playing the game

#

it just can be a volatile game to play to those who can get emotional when playing

frosty trellis
snow ruin
#

i mean for anyone before 100 hours

#

the game will be so overwhelming and foreign with all the information

#

that you basically cannot take in any socialization

frosty trellis
#

i went 1-17 and was pretty frustrated lmfao

snow ruin
#

you should watch me play a game and ill try to teach you and then ill watch you play

frosty trellis
#

sure im down tonite

solid oxide
frosty trellis
#

ill try to rewatch it after im free

solid oxide
#

xp adv can mean getting an ability earlier than your enemy

snow ruin
#

and you keep pushing advantage

#

as a mid, you're the pace maker

#

you control the momentum and flow of the game

#

tempo

#

you're the +1 which turns tides and forces fights

#

or you're the pressure which lets them off your team

heady gust
#

oh to be competitive again and actually have fun

solid oxide
#

this guy

heady gust
#

idk

#

why is it that whenever i play multiplayer competitive games i have big sad

#

but when i play rpg or coop i get steamhapp steamhapp

frosty trellis
#

going into this with low expectations with myself

polar marten
polar marten
#

??????

solid oxide
#

venge arcana going for 14 euros wtf

#

oh

#

wtf

#

arcanas on the steam market are rly cheap lol

#

12 euros for cm arcana is crazy

heady gust
#

why u have europe card if you live in the us

solid oxide
#

i dont live in the us

#

?

heady gust
#

based

heady gust
#

he told me in a call we was from the us once idk

solid oxide
#

no?

#

unless i lied for fun but i dont think id ever lie about that even for fun

heady gust
#

i just had an impression that he was playing from the us in europe servers

solid oxide
#

just because i dont know whatd be so funny about that

#

dude i literally even told you how im constantly talking in russian

#

i speak russian bro

#

you dont speak russian unless youre atleast 1/1000 european

heady gust
#

i think you said something like central area, maybe you meant central europe then

solid oxide
#

i guess central europe is more accurate

#

but they call it eastern europe

heady gust
#

you barely have a slavic accent that's pretty intereting steamhapp

solid oxide
#

its a weird development yeah

polar marten
#

1550

heady gust
#

superb

solid oxide
snow ruin
frosty trellis
#

i tried to play as storm rn but it got banned and now i have a 30 min mm ban lmfao

#

fuckkk

snow ruin
#

why do you have an mm ban?

frosty trellis
#

i left bc storm was banned

#

i think its over now

#

i wish it put me in lower elo lobbies bc there was a guy with lile 7000 matches played

snow ruin
#

dont leave games bc of that

frosty trellis
#

i fucking did it

#

holy shit

#

i think i got carried but whatever

#

that was really really exciting??? wtf i see what ur talking about now

#

i didnt bot out this time but looked at what my team\enemy team was doing and made my choices on what i know

snow ruin
#

just btw your backpack items arent active

#

you need to put higher value items in your backpack into your actual inventory

#

also usually having more than one of an item is not worth it

frosty trellis
#

idk why i bought more than one stick

#

i was probably trying to heal but didnt realize its on a cooldown

snow ruin
#

sticks dont stack charges

#

only the first one receives charge priority

frosty trellis
#

then i bought a bottle because i saw a fight that was worth winning and wanted to get my hp up

snow ruin
#

dont buy bottle unless youre mid

#

bottle is only good for refills

#

and as a non-mid, you arent gonna really refill your bottle

#

better to get healing salve or tangos or clarities etc

#

which are way cheaper one time regen items

#

bottle is 660 gold

frosty trellis
#

hopefully my next game i can play mid

#

but yea i felt a rush when we were at the base knowing they cant respawn in time to stop us

solid oxide
#

you can get 2 charges every 60s

solid oxide
#

oh those too

snow ruin
#

its still not worth it vs. lane

solid oxide
#

hmm i guess

snow ruin
#

you have to leave lane

#

to get water or bounty

#

and its like

#

not much regen for the gold you lose

#

and xp

#

theoretically there might be a way to

#

but no one has really figured it out

solid oxide
#

i feel like if bottle was cheaper itd kinda revive jungling

#

with so much warer

#

though youd have to rely on neutral rng

frosty trellis
#

i think i shall play another game rn....

solid oxide
#

he got hooked

#

over for bruh

frosty trellis
#

its only fun if i win

#

its not fun if i lose

solid oxide
#

youre slowly familiarizing yourself with your surroundings

#

its like driving a car

#

eventually youll always remember to use turn signals

#

eventually youll remember every road sign

#

eventually youll remember what speed is right in what situation

frosty trellis
#

do i just learn in turbo

frosty trellis
#

yipee someone dc'd

solid oxide
#

some things u should know about dcs

#

you can dc for 5 mins until you get an abandon

#

5 mins doesnt reset upon another dc

#

you can still keep playing the match after getting an abandon

frosty trellis
#

yea we lost pretty bad lmfao

solid oxide
#

every player can pause with f9 two times with a 300s cd

frosty trellis
#

what can you do if someone is like 5 levels ahead

solid oxide
#

if an ally disconnects and someone on your team pauses the enemies are obligated to wait 1 min per pause

solid oxide
#

the game doesnt count if someone leaves before first blood, otherwise it will be scored

#

if someone completely leaves the team gets additional gold per minute to compensate

#

also you can control the disconnected player but it may not earn gold or purchase items

solid oxide
#

its hard to outscale someone whos snowballing

#

its kinda hard to say

#

in turbo players snowball really fast lol

frosty trellis
#

yea someone was level 20 and i was like 13

#

so i just afkd

solid oxide
#

be careful about afking unless the game is like 1 min away from ending

frosty trellis
#

we were about to lose anyway...

solid oxide
#

mhm thats fine

#

they just get you if you don't earn any experience for like 5 minutes

frosty trellis
#

i just wanna win all my games and have fun...

#

idk i dont think ill be super into dota, just enough so i can hangout in vc

snow ruin
#

you just have to push through

#

dota is not fun until 100 hours

frosty trellis
#

:(

#

feels daunting

heady gust
heady gust
#

there's a reason the game is flooded with review complaining about literally anything it has to offer
and also review from dudes with 30k hours urging you not to try it

#

there's a reason for that

polar marten
polar marten
polar marten
#

pos1 worm

polar marten
polar marten
rigid dawn
#

how was it?

polar marten
snow ruin
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> mcoms requested a Game Check. (expired <t:1745912285:R>)

zenith kite
snow ruin
#

say game

honest arrowBOT
#

An unexpected error occurred.

snow ruin
#

please

honest arrowBOT
#

An unexpected error occurred.

solid oxide
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

An unexpected error occurred.

snow ruin
#

ah hang on

honest arrowBOT
#

An unexpected error occurred.

#

No gamers found for the game. This server has gone 1 games without a game. (1 in a row).

snow ruin
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> mcoms requested a Game Check. (expires <t:1745912610:R>)

snow ruin
#

yes

solid oxide
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

rayne is ready to game. (2/5)

rigid dawn
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

lonely potat is ready to game. (3/5)

#

@solid oxide @rigid dawn @snow ruin Game Check complete. 3/5 players ready to game.

snow ruin
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> mcoms requested a Game Check. (expired <t:1745912835:R>)

solid oxide
#

game

rigid dawn
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

rayne is ready to game. (2/5)

#

lonely potat is ready to game. (3/5)

snow ruin
#

game now

honest arrowBOT
#

@solid oxide @rigid dawn @snow ruin Game Check complete. 3/5 players ready to game.

rigid dawn
#

yum

heady gust
#

WHAT

honest arrowBOT
#
Crusader [ 2 ]
Type

Normal Turbo

Region

STOCKHOLM

Score

20-37

Team

Dire

Team Advantage

⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯

Net Worth

+51851 (56.7%)

XP

+94818 (45.8%)

Raw Hero Damage

+14279 (17.9%)

Raw Healing

+525 (135.5%)

Tower Damage

+24477 (184.0%)

Last Hits

+119 (37.6%)

Denies

+13 (78.8%)

heady gust
#

WHAT

#

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCKING FUCK!!!!!

honest arrowBOT
#
Archon [ 3 ]
Type

Normal Turbo

Region

EUROPE

Score

34-50

Team

Radiant

Team Advantage

⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯

Net Worth

-56278 (37.5%)

XP

-84692 (29.4%)

Raw Hero Damage

-42092 (28.3%)

Raw Healing

+2321 (40.9%)

Tower Damage

-7950 (59.0%)

Last Hits

-47 (10.6%)

Denies

-9 (48.6%)

polar marten
snow ruin
#

game in 11 hours

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> mcoms scheduled a game at <t:1745986641:t> (<t:1745986641:R>).

snow ruin
#

game if 3

honest arrowBOT
#

mcoms can game at <t:1745986641:t> (<t:1745986641:R>) with 3 gamers. (1/5)

polar marten
#

game help bro

honest arrowBOT
#

Unrecognized input "game help bro", please check the usage of the command.

polar marten
#

@honest arrow fak you men

honest arrowBOT
#

Unrecognized input "game fak you men", please check the usage of the command.

polar marten
#

game help

honest arrowBOT
#

Unrecognized input "game help", please check the usage of the command.

polar marten
#

HELP

rigid dawn
snow ruin
#

game cancel

honest arrowBOT
#

Game cancelled.

snow ruin
#

game mark at 6pm to 4am

honest arrowBOT
#

mcoms can game between <t:1745964000:t> and <t:1745956800:t>.

snow ruin
#

game mark at 6pm to in 15.5 hours

honest arrowBOT
#

mcoms can game between <t:1745964000:t> and <t:1746003644:t>.

snow ruin
#

game mark at 6pm to in 14.5 hours

honest arrowBOT
#

mcoms can game between <t:1745964000:t> and <t:1746000051:t>.

polar marten
#

ok bro

#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> weather requested a Game Check. (expired <t:1745949486:R>)

polar marten
#

ermm

honest arrowBOT
#

No gamers found for the game. This server has gone 2 games without a game. (1 in a row).

rigid dawn
#

game game game game

honest arrowBOT
#

Unrecognized input "game game game game", please check the usage of the command.

solid oxide
#

thoughts?

#

horrible thumbnail sorry

solid oxide
#

d2pt for unconventional off-meta builds

snow ruin
snow ruin
#

game in 1h

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> mcoms scheduled a game at <t:1745991807:t> (<t:1745991807:R>).

honest arrowBOT
#

No gamers found for the game. This server has gone 3 games without a game. (2 in a row).

solid oxide
solid oxide
snow ruin
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> mcoms requested a Game Check. (expired <t:1746075567:R>)

solid oxide
#

ready

#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

rayne is ready to game. (2/5)

solid oxide
#

i forgot

snow ruin
#

forgot?

solid oxide
#

the command

#

it was just "game"

honest arrowBOT
#

@solid oxide @snow ruin Game Check complete. 2/5 players ready to game.

rigid dawn
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> lonely potat requested a Game Check. (expired <t:1746076228:R>)

rigid dawn
#

tehe

honest arrowBOT
#

No gamers found for the game. This server has gone 4 games without a game. (1 in a row).

snow ruin
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

<@&1366666188590940211> mcoms requested a Game Check. (expired <t:1746076378:R>)

rigid dawn
#

game

honest arrowBOT
#

lonely potat is ready to game. (2/5)

solid oxide
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game

honest arrowBOT
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rayne is ready to game. (3/5)

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@solid oxide @rigid dawn @snow ruin Game Check complete. 3/5 players ready to game.

honest arrowBOT
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Archon [ 2 ]
Type

Normal Turbo

Region

EUROPE

Score

47-39

Team

Radiant

Team Advantage

⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯

Net Worth

+67044 (30.4%)

XP

+29028 (7.7%)

Raw Hero Damage

-2983 (1.5%)

Raw Healing

+9852 (195.2%)

Tower Damage

+9419 (39.9%)

Last Hits

-41 (4.8%)

Denies

-1 (6.1%)

honest arrowBOT
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Archon [ 1 ]
Type

Normal Turbo

Region

EUROPE

Score

28-40

Team

Dire

Team Advantage

⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯

Net Worth

+42116 (33.6%)

XP

+101531 (42.1%)

Raw Hero Damage

-14556 (10.2%)

Raw Healing

+8144 (191.0%)

Tower Damage

+16316 (129.1%)

Last Hits

-234 (44.8%)

Denies

+5 (40.0%)

honest arrowBOT
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Crusader [ 3 ]
Type

Normal Turbo

Region

EUROPE

Score

31-37

Team

Radiant

Team Advantage

⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯

Net Worth

-33821 (32.1%)

XP

-70077 (34.1%)

Raw Hero Damage

-5156 (4.8%)

Raw Healing

-175 (10.1%)

Tower Damage

-10126 (92.0%)

Last Hits

-54 (16.4%)

Denies

+10 (47.6%)

heady gust
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@solid oxide how you play games for 4 hours without getting mentally tired, especially dota?

snow ruin
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im not rayne but games are either problem solving or escapism

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that's the value they provide, either you get to live another story, or you get to solve interesting problems

solid oxide
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thats how i played so many games in a row

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without getting tired

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cuz it was fun with friends

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that being said today i had a few interesting games with some interesting moments

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did get a genuinely unwinnable game my last game but thats the kind of challenge the game throws at you for winning too much

heady gust
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game sensed happiness can't have that

honest arrowBOT
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Unrecognized input "game sensed happiness can't have that", please check the usage of the command.

heady gust
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LMAO

solid oxide
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win too much and you get put in games where theres this really good guy and other idiots on the other team and your team is like also idiots

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you just need to recognize that the game wants to see how you handle being in a team with idiots

heady gust
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infamous 1v9 lobby

solid oxide
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i definitely couldve won that game

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but its the kind of game where you dont get to make many mistakes

heady gust
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i don't have any other weirdo friends who enjoy minecraft bedrock

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and i've uninstalled dota (and other competitive games)

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and the most fun i've had in a while
is when i was winning apex games with my spanish friend who turned out to be kinda racist

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😭

polar marten