Dota 2 Megathread - in my 6-7 era

[rigid dawn]

the void had 1 job and fucked it up bigtime and this is the first teamfight he joined the entire match after farming for so long that the medusa was 6 slotted

and he barely had he bkb

such are the incompetent fools i get in my game

I'm just plain sick of the incompetency I see at this bracket. And I need to keep suffering in this bracket cause its utterly painful to climb out of it

[tidal briar]

just get good

[polar marten]

At grog

[tidal briar]

mastergrog

[snow ruin]

you when you dont play with me

[polar marten]

what do you mean by that

[rigid dawn]

playing with you is a very high stress event. you are a highly volatile dota player

[solid oxide]

anyone in a poor mood is bound to be susceptible to being emotional

i played a few arams with her a little bit ago and it was all good

play dota responsibly.

[solid oxide]

is overwatch still a thing? i realized i havent been getting any overwatch cases at all lately

[solid oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFqlpCl9NW4

xiao8 streaming himself drinking and singing karaoke in a bar while proclaiming that hes unemployed

[solid oxide]

😃

[solid oxide]

god gives me his hardest battles

im not strong enough for them

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide play dota with me

[solid oxide]

like now

?

[solid oxide]

we lost this game because when we had to defend our last rax, sf tpd bottom with no tp in an attempt to push the last enemy t3 rax, through backdoor

he took the tower only when they took down our t4s

i do not understand\

i dont

i have to fucking

overcompensate for these IDIOTS

im just upset man im not even angry

how is it this hard

[rigid dawn]

don't overcompensate for them

carry them to victory

go push every lane solo

right click the towers till the fucking die

while the enemy tries their literal best to kill you

[rigid dawn]

he just gave up man

that's about it

[rigid dawn]

Here's something to think about

[rigid dawn]

When you exclusively solo queue

The only constant in your games is you

So don't bother about your teammates focus on yourself

Its the only constant in all those games which you can control

Well that is what my brother says, I just keep complaining about my solid teammates to him anyway

[solid oxide]

i dont think its unreasonable to expect cooperation in a team game

the sniper 5 i flamed at the start of the game turned out to be the player i respected the most

[rigid dawn]

It sometimes is and there is nothing you can do about it

[rigid dawn]

Like I said

[solid oxide]

i dropped from archon 3 man

im on crusader 5 now

this is mental

i lost 600 mmr

im the fucking joekr

[rigid dawn]

An average week in dota for me

I have climbed to 1.4k mmr twice only to drop back to 900 on loss streaks

Now I don't even bother trying anymore

I just play for fun

[rigid dawn]

and before this I climbed to 1k mmr thrice to drop back to fucking 200

And there are only two types of games I play

One type where I own the enemy team so hard that I go 20/0 32/4 or something

Another type of game where my team collapses so hard I am forced into recovery and do terrible mistakes over and over again till we lose

[rigid dawn]

Its a good ass game

Terrible community

Lots of depth to it

Lots to learn

[snow ruin]

you need to be thinking about roles more

not lane roles/positions

but like what's your job in the game

and what is other peoples job

and filling the jobs that aren't there

usually this inefficiency is why you are stuck

[rigid dawn]

This is again very tough when teammates don't play as a team

Team fights often have either the carry or the support missing

[snow ruin]

so be the support

or be the carry

[rigid dawn]

There are so many times I have such a huge lead on the game only to watch my team go to fights and start chain feeding

[snow ruin]

be the missing part

[rigid dawn]

I mean I just want to farm a 3k gold item for a while to secure the win

No my team goes and fights

and then asks me why am i not in the fight

[solid oxide]

ok but this game we lost because

we straight up didnt have a guy

[rigid dawn]

when i clearly asked them to WAIT

[solid oxide]

like we actually had no guy

[snow ruin]

that's bad imo

[rigid dawn]

Its tough to play with no info in certian matchups

Supports don't ward

Enemies exclusively are out for your blood

Teammates won't initiate

[snow ruin]

sometimes you have to be initiator AM

and die a few times for your team

[rigid dawn]

That is the problem you see when your team is that bad at the game you gotta fulfill multiple roles

I mostly only play mid unless getting role queues

[solid oxide]

what do i need to do when this happens

[rigid dawn]

And I have settled to heroes who can initiate fights and get out of them safely

Like either necrophos or dk

One is slippery and the other is tanks

you can initiate and stay alive

And those two besides od is my strongest mid heroes

Strong as in highest WR

Other than that even OD has a high winrate because meme hammer

I just go and wreck all the t1 and t2 towers myself, eat up all the enemy carry's farming space

And well OD is a rather easy hero to snowball with

I mean honestly I enjoy playing more with my friends in the higher brackets

I learn alot more in those games

[solid oxide]

idk im just bleh

i start every game with so much excitement and then i just end being upset

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide play dota with me friend

[solid oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/moai-walking-moai-james-smith-john-drumm-kinley-gif-23610859

me waiting in lobby

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide oke dota time

[solid oxide]

1 min

[polar marten]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1213247808354779236/1219135372689145916/hello_vro.gif

[solid oxide]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SecretiveStupidMarrowKappaRoss-j0k49dACtgWzeG7X

[rigid dawn]

update tomorrow?

[solid oxide]

maybe, maybe not

[solid oxide]

who the fuck is this

i guess

[polar marten]

friendly scrim

[solid oxide]

its getting real

crusader cup is real

[snow ruin]

is this a scam

[solid oxide]

no real people

oddly

[polar marten]

scams don’t go as far for 3 dollars worth of items that rayne has. in my opinion

[solid oxide]

ugh

best of 3

are u for real

[rigid dawn]

I love it when I can build such items and win a game

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886245867672195113/1228098990705217556/image.png?ex=662acf50&is=66185a50&hm=a18dd6e5741c96b474c9c00efc78d2313766da45e1983b70febbc1edc2ff975f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=868&height=427

So called supports when silenced:
So called windranger when disarmed:
So called windranger when rended (mkb + silence):
So called luna when magic resistance and disarm:

Also dk mid is soo good when enemy doesn't magic nuke, You just sit in lane tank all their right click and deny every single creep with ur good base attack damage

And even if they have magic nuke you just rush cloak and do the exact same shit

Sit in lane and deny

____

I asked my pos 5 player to "kill himself" in chat (extreme greifing to a new level)
Game global muted me and i lost 400 communication score immediately

Possible AI chat moderation? 🤔

Also disabling teammate help doesn't prevent KOTL relocate

God I haven't seen a person greif so hard, Comes mid, Steals all last hits with his spell, denies all runes

And once he got recall he kept recalling everyone back to base

We won anw

[rigid dawn]

@snow ruin

[solid oxide]

this is some weird balkan euro 5v5 i got into

how

this is probably serbian

[solid oxide]

unlikely

if you get reported enough during a game you can get muted for everyone til the resto f the game

it might be triggered by keywords but i reported this guy and the game muted him

sighhh

[surreal plinth]

thats why yoy need to be creative with your flaming so other teammates think its funny

[solid oxide]

WHAT THE FUCK

THEYRE GETTING A COACH

unfair

what the helll bro

[surreal plinth]

bring in lonely potat to coach

[solid oxide]

too late

round 2 lets go gang

[solid oxide]

yeahhhh i think its over

dry loss

[rigid dawn]

Besides OD are there any meta meme hammer builders in the game rn?

Treant used to be the goto meme hammer builder but his job has changed from a afk pusher to a scout and initiation

[polar marten]

anyone if you put your mind to it

[rigid dawn]

I mean well some hero that synergizes with the meme hammer

[rigid dawn]

anyoyne wanna play dota custom games with me

[snow ruin]

leshrac

[rigid dawn]

yeah ig that makes sense

[snow ruin]

naga

mars

[solid oxide]

maybe wyvern too but idk

the version with the longer stun probably wouldve been a better fit

because itd be like a mini rp

the damage is better now but youd rather build right click damage at that point on her

i feel like the problem with meteor isnt really that there arent any heroes that it wouldnt work with

there are a good amount of heroes itd work with it's just that you would much rather build a lot of other items

like its not bad, itd just be easier to do something else

[polar marten]

?

chill.. not drop big rock...

[solid oxide]

big rock

[rigid dawn]

this would be too much of a meme build

[rigid dawn]

my main point of building the meme hammer is its early game tower damage

I mostly get away rushing it as the first item with od since im decent at laning in my rank

and then i just evaporate all the t1 and t2 towers myself cause well in my bracket nobody bothers with pushing

[polar marten]

i fw taiga heavily

[solid oxide]

t1 towers are really easy to take

and pose little threat when diving

and to take t2s you need to not only go deep into enemy territory but you also must push waves

which you usually cant do without the enemy noticing

if youre building items based around taking t1 towers its not rly going to work out methinks

losing a t1 isnt the end of the world as it used to be

[glass thorn]

*losing a t1

isnt the end of the world

as it used to be*

- rayne

[solid oxide]

its still a setback but you can literally just

take a t1 after a single good teamfight

or wait for a catapult wave

t2s u can take early if the enemy team fucks up big time

[glass thorn]

*t2s u can take

early if the enemy

team fucks up big time*

- rayne

[solid oxide]

its very rare to be able to solo push a t2 because 90% of the time someone will respond and tp

and if theyre smart theyll ward and anticipate you to come back there

maaaybe it deals a ton of damage idk

i havent used hammer since they nerfed the stun duration

the damage is probably great since they buffed it but idk

i would just do a lot of other different things than channel for 2.5s

[rigid dawn]

trust me there are alot of times i peck down the t2 towers hammer by hammer

[rigid dawn]

its not really a solo push i often have a support with me

[glass thorn]

*its not really a

solo push i often have

a support with me*

- lomely potat

[rigid dawn]

my own cores will be busy farming

so will the enemy cores

i have one or both supports with me and i just keep pushing towers

[glass thorn]

*i have one or both

supports with me and i just

keep pushing towers*

- lomely potat

[rigid dawn]

and i can often deal with one or two enemies who come

[polar marten]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820416986117832708/1039552925845958756/speed.gif

[rigid dawn]

Pos 4 storm with meme hammer

[polar marten]

splendid

[solid oxide]

theres 4 levels of skill
herald i - guardian iii (bad)
guardian iii - legend i (still bad but knows a lot)
legend i - divine i (still bad but not as bad)
divine i - low immortal (~6k, not bad)

guardian to archon is where youll be basically stuck until you learn to make use of everything youre given

theyre not actually bad they just havent really built good habits that enable them to win more

so theyre just kind of stuck until they learn to take advantage of things other players dont like constantly collecting information and shotcalling

collecting info like minimap, game time, potential wards

i learned this cool little trick a while ago

when i play pangolier mid every time i try stacking the jungle camp closest to the mid tower with swashbuckle

its much easier on radiant because you dont need to go far from your tower but a bit trickier on dire

[glass thorn]

*its much easier

on radiant but a bit

trickier on dire*

- rayne

[solid oxide]

if you win lane its gonna be extra gold for whoever takes it, you or your carry

if u lose lane its gonna be gold you can use to recover from lost lane

if an enemy support comes to gank you theyll probably find it and inform their team about it, putting them on a timer and pressuring them to take the stacks away from you

you can use this to force unfavorable fights

especially if u have roll ready

the dire camp is further from the tower but is less likely to be spotted by enemy supports trying to gank you

[solid oxide]

this can be done with any hero that can hit through fog, death prophet, leshrac, dk, kotl, zeus

[solid oxide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1c33vfi/new_meta_begging_for_money_in_champ_select_and/

would it be fine to rename this into "ARTS/MOBA Megathread" or is that a bad idea

this will always be a dota megathread i just think posting about how the other games are bad is funny

actually no i guess its fine as is

[polar marten]

💯

[snow ruin]

professional player tastes and preferences may be different to the rest of the playerbase

[solid oxide]

i just thought the title was funny

it amused me

[rigid dawn]

When you are the damage, tank, tower push, initiator, disabler and strat caller for your team

my back hurts

Also stormcrafter is a really really underrated neutral item in the game

Like it did way more damage than witch blade passive even though i had it like for 1/3rd the time i had witch blade

[snow ruin]

@rigid dawn play dota

[rigid dawn]

i am rn

[snow ruin]

with ME

[rigid dawn]

i wish my brain was fast enough to play tinker while thinking

[rigid dawn]

custom games sure

[snow ruin]

real ranked match

[rigid dawn]

erm...

[rigid dawn]

my fingers are more than fast enough to spam the combos but brain can't think that fast

i have literally byhearted most of tinkers spell radiuses at this point to

just cant fucking apply them in heat of battle

@solid oxide doter?

[snow ruin]

custom game

rayne is sleeper

[rigid dawn]

sadge

[snow ruin]

@rigid dawn DOTA2 ARAM

[solid oxide]

sorry no, i retired

(taking a break from the game)

i lost 12 games in a row

i hit a wall and i need to collect myself to break through it otherwise im just hurting myself

losing 8 games in a row was already enough for me to be upset and trying to brute force 4 more games hoping ill have improved wouldnt do anything

[rigid dawn]

Yeah I have teammates who actively throw games in my bracket

Me a 10/0/5 sniper trying to get objectives and end game

Team be like yeah lets not stick with the sniper and dive all the way to the enemy ancient

Also yeah why not use the sniper as bait and run away rather than try to help him escape

Ofc the sniper is absolutely useless and what is a mere 1.5k gold for the enemy carry after all

[solid oxide]

at the end of the day the only variable i can control is myself

[rigid dawn]

Lets all run away from the enemy carry and leave the sniper to deal with him solo

That's totally going to work

[solid oxide]

the goal of me improving is not to win every game but to win more games than usual

[rigid dawn]

The sniper is not going to feed 1.5k gold

[solid oxide]

making the difference

[rigid dawn]

Bro I literally feed my teammates win's served on golden platters

They just love throwing it away so hard

I shutdown the enemy mid

I gank

I farm

I push

And teammates still don't value me as a person to play around or save

[solid oxide]

bring your own save

buy concussive grenade

pike

[rigid dawn]

Its not that simple man

Enemies are not idiots

They know how to play around said saves

[solid oxide]

i dont know, concussive grenade and pike/blink is like

so much mobility for sniper unless ur like playing vs some spirit breaker

[rigid dawn]

If I buy 3 saves I can't snowball like I do

Its alot of gold spent

Game goes into lategame

I am really good at making myself snowball

Like 2k gold ahead of anybody in the game

Its just that my fucking team won't play around me

[solid oxide]

if your team doesnt play around you, play around your team

[rigid dawn]

They go in for their own solo kills and shit

[rigid dawn]

It is not possible to do that

Teammates play too high risk

[solid oxide]

in any case

i really advise you to get a stack of some sort

[rigid dawn]

Im in guardian 4 people know how to counter pick

[solid oxide]

like i said

party games will always be better than solo queue

even better if its a 5 stack of people youre familiar with

[rigid dawn]

Like I can't play with team when the enemy has riki

The team has to play with me

Team needs to understand that I am easy feed for the riki and not dive 10 kilometers into the enemy base where I have no clue where the fuck the riki is going to kill me from

[solid oxide]

its an unfortunate reality but thats how youre supposed to play the game

with 4 other players youre able to trust

which would be much easier in party

[rigid dawn]

And then they blame me for "bad positioning"

"Not buying save items"

Shit like that

[solid oxide]

sounds like you might need a break too

[rigid dawn]

Like I eons better positioning and awareness as sniper than the rest in my bracket

[rigid dawn]

Not really

[solid oxide]

because when youre facing devastating loss in this game first you will blame everyone else

and that can bring you down to a point where it impacts your performance

[rigid dawn]

I wansn't facing a devastating loss

Like I said I was 10/0/5

[snow ruin]

me when i play dota with ryane and lomely potato:

😊

[rigid dawn]

The problem being with 10/0/5 is dying to their cores is extremely bad

But my teammates don't realize that I guess

[solid oxide]

but you talk as if every game is like pushing a boulder up a mountain

you work so hard only for the ball to roll back down

[rigid dawn]

I complain only when I get such games so yeah...

I mean yeah I do have bad games too

Its just that I lose these games that are guarenteed wins

[solid oxide]

like i said

i encourage finding teammates

[rigid dawn]

Like look at the replay of the OD match I played

[solid oxide]

every now and then i find great teammates i enjoy playing with a lot

sometimes they add me post game

sometimes we requeue

build connections

[rigid dawn]

I had to manually get into the fight, disable both their cores myself cause well why pick supports with disables

[solid oxide]

youre not alone in this game

[rigid dawn]

Why not pick supports like zeus

Disables are not required in dota right?

[solid oxide]

you shouldnt really pick zeus support

[rigid dawn]

YES

[solid oxide]

its doable but why not play something else

[rigid dawn]

I am talking from the perspective of a mid without a disable support

I have to astral the most important core

Then hex the other core and kill them myself

[solid oxide]

worst thing support zeus can do is focus on dewarding for cheap

and just bait you like techies

[rigid dawn]

Because my other 2 cores have no real damage

[solid oxide]

you think youve got him, heavenly jump

idk man

pick lesh

lol

[rigid dawn]

Like look at this

[solid oxide]

dont play sniper

play lesh

[rigid dawn]

Will do

I am playing sniper to learn the game better

[solid oxide]

like actually if u just

[rigid dawn]

Better itemization and positioning

[solid oxide]

want to climb

learn lesh

[rigid dawn]

I can learn alot of things as sniper

[solid oxide]

i mea

n

sniper is a lot about positioning

[rigid dawn]

Which is very important in the game

[solid oxide]

you can also abuse the idea of sniper being a hero thats easy to catch once you close the gap

[rigid dawn]

Playing as OD made me develop alot of bad habits

[solid oxide]

by baiting enemies

concussive grenade is amazing for this

basically,

play lesh

[rigid dawn]

I guess you never had a concussive grenade backfire on you

[glass thorn]

*I guess you never

had a concussive grenade

backfire on you*

- lomely potat

[solid oxide]

literally jsut play lesh if all you want is to climb

[solid oxide]

skill issue

[rigid dawn]

Yeah tell skill issue all you want

[solid oxide]

shard on sniper is like a must have

[rigid dawn]

and then watch as you fuck up a crucial fight just due to your cute little grenade

[solid oxide]

its mobility, creating a gap, disarming

jumping on/off cliffs

[rigid dawn]

It is good when you have small fights

[solid oxide]

jumping into trees so you can tp

its always good

[rigid dawn]

In full on 5v5 teamfights you are guarenteed to fuck up the grenade

[solid oxide]

get it.

its just 1400 gold

less than a pike

less than a blink

[rigid dawn]

Just try using it you will understand 🙂

[solid oxide]

bro

its literally one of my mid heroes

[rigid dawn]

Basically you fuck it up you end up with the enemy core you were trying to push away right in your face

[solid oxide]

so dont fuck it up

thats the same logic with when like

[rigid dawn]

I am relaying what my brother told

[solid oxide]

if you fuck up your hook you end up hooking the lifestealer that will eat you instead of the crystal maiden

[rigid dawn]

A pike is a way more consistent tool than the grenade

[solid oxide]

dragon lance is great

anyways

[rigid dawn]

Also the reason I don't play lesh is there is alot of items to counter it

[solid oxide]

no

there is not

lesh really doesnt care

[rigid dawn]

BKB, Pipe, Multiple heroes that give magic resistance, all kinds of disables and stuns

[solid oxide]

hes really fucking good

just

abuse him

you have a week left tops

[rigid dawn]

Plus lesh's high gold requirement

Which means that unless you snowball the enemies are capable of building items to counter you by the time you are up and ready

[solid oxide]

he who has not tasted grapes says sour

[rigid dawn]

I have played and watched alot of dota

1/4th of my games are with people in the legend bracket who know how to play

I know most heroes and their counters by just playing with them

[solid oxide]

ok

just

trust

play lesh

play lesh. oh my god. its so good. its so good.

[rigid dawn]

I have countered lesh myself multiple times so yeah

No

[solid oxide]

learn lesh

you will thank me

so what

they were bad

you say youre good

so that means you will be able to dominate as lesh

do lesh. trust. trust me.

or pangolier

lesh and pangolier

great mid heroes. learn them.

[rigid dawn]

I wish dota were that simple rayne

It isn't you yourself need to understand that

No single hero is going to magically help you get out of a bracket

[solid oxide]

dota is sometimes simple when you expect it to be complicated and complicated when you expect it to be simple

simple in terms of just buy shard.

[rigid dawn]

Honestly I feel like sf

seems like a midpoint between sniper and od

[solid oxide]

what

dont start playing sf please

its so bad. its so bad. oh my god.

that hero is actually so bad it has never won and has always lost

[rigid dawn]

he has consistent damage

he ban build both physical and magical

he is a default shadow blade builder

[solid oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-fiend-shadowraze-zxc-dota-gif-21768064 my pos1 sf

[rigid dawn]

He has a inbuilt initiation spell

Lots of good reasons to play sf

[solid oxide]

initiation spells dont take 2.5s to cast

[rigid dawn]

The thing is that its a particular type of initiation

[glass thorn]

*The thing is that its

a particular type of

initiation*

- lomely potat

[rigid dawn]

sb + ult

Really good in my bracket due to lack of proper supports

lul just realized I freshly abandoned a game 20 minutes ago

we had a 5 carry lineup

I abandoned it even before I picked my mid

I was like yeah fuck this shit

Also I am so sick and tired of lategame dota man

[solid oxide]

like

idk

potat

what do you want?

[rigid dawn]

Honestly?

[solid oxide]

youre implying that youre the better player but your teammates

[rigid dawn]

A 5 stack to play with I guess

[solid oxide]

arent as good

im giving you a tip

a great tip

play lesh

so you can get out of guardian

and play with slightly better players

that will have a bigger chance of understanding how to play

[rigid dawn]

if this were there i can play any hero and win

[solid oxide]

look at the situation they got me facin

[rigid dawn]

I should probably just go back to spamming necrophos and dragon knight. easy heroes to play and fuck around with the enemies

[solid oxide]

dragon knight is great

[rigid dawn]

yeah with dk during laning me cs=deny

[solid oxide]

necrophos not so,id be cautious

[rigid dawn]

he is currently my highest winrate mid

[solid oxide]

its a hero u can play if its like ur signature

but like

i really dont get it still

[rigid dawn]

He has a very easy item build route

Due to how he works

[solid oxide]

if you want to win, play lesh/pango

[rigid dawn]

Rayne, I am winning

[solid oxide]

youre playing sniper

saying you cant 1v5

while playing as a hero that focuses on single target damage

thats okay nothing wrong with sniper but clearly your teammates are the issue

so play the hero that can 1v5 by dealing damage to all of the heroes in his radius

[rigid dawn]

No real hero can 1v5 on equal terms

[solid oxide]

play the hero that heals from all the magic damage he deals

play the hero that turns all the enemy heroes around him ethereal including himself

[rigid dawn]

one disable and your done for

[solid oxide]

lesh doesnt give a fuck!!

he has bloodstone

he has pulse nova

he can buy bkb

if you want to use mage slayer he doesnt care! he gets nihilism

hes like an actually broken hero

like for real

[rigid dawn]

Yeah

My goto conter for lesh is dk

[solid oxide]

if you want to win play lesh

if you want better teammates, start winning

[rigid dawn]

I just go to him and rightclick him till he dies

[solid oxide]

idiot on lesh then

[rigid dawn]

Mage slayer debuff is huge, and with magic ressist from my aghs im practically unkillable as dk

[solid oxide]

lesh should win vs dk idk how you won

[rigid dawn]

I even had some matches as necro where I dealt with lesh

[solid oxide]

you were smarter than him

[rigid dawn]

You build shroud and have infinite mana pool to spam spells

[solid oxide]

the one way lesh could actually be inferior to dk forever is if he applied procs on breathe fire besides his ult ones

[rigid dawn]

Lesh is easy to deal with if you have a disabler on your team

That's pretty much it

[solid oxide]

but your teammates dont want to play together

[rigid dawn]

Od, necro and sniper have easy ways to deal with disables

[glass thorn]

*Od, necro and

sniper have easy ways to

deal with disables*

- lomely potat

[rigid dawn]

Od you astral yourself

[solid oxide]

look. if your teammates are bad chances are the enemy is just as bad. take advantage of their habits

[rigid dawn]

Necro you fly away with windwaker or death seeker

[solid oxide]

ok

lesh euls himself

lesh buys bkb/linkens

[rigid dawn]

Yeah but you see the problem there?

[solid oxide]

lesh activates bloodstone and ult before your stun lands

no i dont

i dont see how it is any different

[rigid dawn]

You are buying items that only serves as saves

Euls synergizes directly with necrophos

[solid oxide]

so you should literally never ever buy eul?

[rigid dawn]

you can always build euls as necro

[rigid dawn]

not the point

[solid oxide]

eul is literally insanely good

i dont get it

[rigid dawn]

The thing is again you need more and more gold to reach the point where you can actualyl end the game

[solid oxide]

these are all valid item choices

[rigid dawn]

I don't like lategame at all

[solid oxide]

i dont know why youre dismissing them as just "saves" that do nothing but only make you die longer

because thats just not true

literally not true i dont know why youre saying this

what kind of games they make u play in guardian

[rigid dawn]

you should come and see 🙂

but nah lesh is barely in meta

[solid oxide]

ive lost enough nerves where i am sorry

[rigid dawn]

And mage slayer is still strong

So lesh is unlikely to work

[solid oxide]

i lost 600 mmr

[rigid dawn]

Its what my friends in legend tell me and I agree with their analysis

[solid oxide]

from 2600 to like 2000

okay but

literally

you get nihilism

[rigid dawn]

read this and the next few messages :>

[solid oxide]

you buy euls

you cant get

mage slayer applied

if you put nihilism on

or literally just activate bkb

euls

disable the enemy

lesh is too overwhelming of a hero to take on alone

[rigid dawn]

so is od sniper and necro

[solid oxide]

look.

i tried explaining to you.

just play lesh.

or pangolier. i dont think theyre gonna touch him next patch

but lesh is getting it for sure. hard.

[rigid dawn]

next patch should be out this week

[solid oxide]

next

week

[rigid dawn]

17th

nah 18th

im calling 18th

crown falls on 18th

[rigid dawn]

I wish dazzlle item cooldown reduction wasn't removed

dazzle mid was my beloved

budget tinker

[solid oxide]

i wish necrobook was never removed

put poison on enemy, summon necro units

troll

funniest build ever honestly i miss it

[rigid dawn]

@snow ruin invite me for more doter sometime

I wish my brain absorbed this game faster.

[solid oxide]

the domino's closest to the valve headquarters is far busier than usual

[rigid dawn]

its them working on cs2 anticheat

the amount of social media backlash is insane

[solid oxide]

open beta

no bitching

[rigid dawn]

it is what it is

[sweet ferry]

@rigid dawn has leveled up! (33 ➜ 34)

[rigid dawn]

I played moer dota in 1 year than the three years i spent playing tf2

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide @rigid dawn dota?

[rigid dawn]

would love to

[solid oxide]

sorry, im not down

you two have fun, though

[snow ruin]

im not gonna disclose any information about the upcoming crownfall update

[rigid dawn]

awie

[solid oxide]

a break's a break

[rigid dawn]

so you coming for doter?

[rigid dawn]

totally understandable

[solid oxide]

im enjoying doing other things that

i wouldnt be able to do because i pretty much just only play dota

for enjoyment

like watching a tv show or something

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide this game will be fun

[solid oxide]

sigh

fine

give me ten mins or so

cant catch a break

[rigid dawn]

👀

interesting

persuasivecoms

[solid oxide]

i was watching a fucking episode

[rigid dawn]

what show

[solid oxide]

the sopranos

season 2 episode 7

https://tenor.com/view/paulie-gualtieri-paul-tony-sirico-wtf-finger-gif-22816998

[polar marten]

Pipeline TD @ Volvo

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide @rigid dawn sorry doing more work D:

will join soon

[rigid dawn]

oki

[solid oxide]

i called you last christmas

[snow ruin]

is everyone able to do other things while they wait

i dont want to just stand yall up

[solid oxide]

its fine, ive been doing what i was doing

[polar marten]

youre' mom

[solid oxide]

ohhhh! whats with the insults

who works at sundays anyways

[rigid dawn]

dw dearie i like waiting for you

@solid oxide necrophos my comfort mid pick, since i can build shit like this and get away with it

[snow ruin]

but thats a meta build

[solid oxide]

uh

[rigid dawn]

not really

[solid oxide]

this is not

a very good game

[snow ruin]

radiance

[rigid dawn]

double heart is terrible since the hp nerf was removed

[solid oxide]

if it lasted an hour and u had to die 10 times

[snow ruin]

euls

bots

bkb is a bit weird but not unprecedented

[solid oxide]

did you get shard

[rigid dawn]

euls was practically namesake this game

[snow ruin]

heart is a good necro item

sure maybe double heart isnt good but

[rigid dawn]

BKB is really required to counter nullifier

[solid oxide]

buy manta and dodge nullifier

[snow ruin]

bkb purges ethereal though

[rigid dawn]

triple heart used to work with the old heart, a classic build

[rigid dawn]

not anymore

that's why its very important

[snow ruin]

since when?

[rigid dawn]

idk even my brother told bkb wont work since it purges ethereal but when i tested it doesn't

[snow ruin]

oh right they did that consistency update

because lesh (in some cases) and muerta could

[rigid dawn]

mmm ig

[snow ruin]

yup

[solid oxide]

isnt the meta more towards building shroud

though

[snow ruin]

because leshrac could aoe disarm without dispelling aetherial

[solid oxide]

i mean its something that was a necessity back then because you straight up were unable to cast spells on bkb targets

now bkb targets still take spell damage

[rigid dawn]

not really

[snow ruin]

and muerta is able to use black king bar

[solid oxide]

muerta is soooooo baaaad i miss her old passive

[rigid dawn]

you build shroud on ogre mid

its op

[solid oxide]

no

no you dont

[snow ruin]

yeah and even before that, total magic damage immunity

[solid oxide]

oh yea that happened too

[rigid dawn]

idk still has a high pick rate in ancient and above

[snow ruin]

muerta is ok

shes situational

[rigid dawn]

mainly as a nuker support tho

[solid oxide]

i mean like more as carry

she doesnt really pack that one-two punch she used to

[rigid dawn]

her carry is shit mainly due to the fact that other carries exist that does her job better

her movement during ult cripples her alot

people can just run away

[solid oxide]

shes like if eclipse was a hero

theyre gonna pull a take aim on gunslinger i feel like

give her a new shard

When activated, Muerta concentrates and focuses both of her weapons on the same target, having a chance to fire the second shot at the current target instead of another unit.

something like that

they kinda dropped the ball on this int carry idea

it was too good and now its not really that good anymore, eclipse if it was a hero

even though you can shoot at bkb targets

[snow ruin]

i think they should remove universal heroes and just make everyone universal at lvl30

xd

nah universal heroes are ok

[solid oxide]

at level 30 any hero can purchase a second aghanims scepter to turn universal

[snow ruin]

but idk i hate the right click

[polar marten]

ever heard of america

[solid oxide]

u right

[rigid dawn]

after playing support with legend players playing support in guardian feels like im trolling

[snow ruin]

trolling?

@solid oxide @rigid dawn alright

5 mins

[rigid dawn]

yeah i keep the incompetent enemy cores solo

[solid oxide]

ill be there in 10

[rigid dawn]

u sure about this?

[snow ruin]

yes

[rigid dawn]

good

[solid oxide]

scheduled gaming

be there. in exactly 24 hours.

[rigid dawn]

look at this poor guy

[solid oxide]

ur losing to these guys?

wtf

[rigid dawn]

i didn't lose that match

that match the gyrocoptor was a problem

the match before that the gyro played sandking on my team and well we won

since 2 really good guys are pretty much unstoppable

[rigid dawn]

i actually i made that axe's life miserable in lane

@solid oxide come

[solid oxide]

ok

one min

https://tenor.com/view/golfing-golf-stupid-game-gif-19939834

THIS IS DOGSHIT

3 months

[solid oxide]

ohhhh fuck it

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide did you have fun today

[solid oxide]

a bit

[snow ruin]

your pango was legendary

[solid oxide]

not really

a lot of mistakes were made

there were a lot of moments where some mistakes i carelessly made frustrated me

we still won butstill

[solid oxide]

no

no

no

i should not have come back

[solid oxide]

terrible idea

i am. deleting this game.

ive become so washed

and i havent even gotten to becoming good

thats fucking crazy

getting washed before even getting good

urghhhhhhh

no more

[snow ruin]

why did you solo q

only play w me

tomorrow

[polar marten]

What do you mean by that

[solid oxide]

no

look

im tireeeed

i cant do it anymore

i dont have what it takes anymore

i need a break

even like three days

i just dont want to play the game for a bit

its gotten to a point where my poor performance just downright depresses me

im sorry

[snow ruin]

you didn't have fun when we played?

[solid oxide]

a bit

i just cant really play okay

i havent been taking my fuckups too well

and i need to at the very least reset myself with a little break

[snow ruin]

@rigid dawn dota?

[rigid dawn]

was sleeping

and have class soon

so no ig

[rigid dawn]

well i can technically play rn

[solid oxide]

the dota fandom wiki has moved to liquipedia (not dota2.com unfortunately) https://www.liquipedia.net/dota2game

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide @rigid dawn dota?

[solid oxide]

im sorry

im not playing

[rigid dawn]

in a few moments

[solid oxide]

i did reinstall but only so that i dont have to redownload the entire game when crownfall is out

[rigid dawn]

5 mins tops

[solid oxide]

if you guys are going to do anything else though id be down

have fun either way

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide watch play at least

😭 please rayne i miss u

[solid oxide]

agh

fine

ill look

give me a few mins

[rigid dawn]

okay im back

but internet is absolute garbage so gimme some more time :>

eh fuck it we ball

[polar marten]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-staring-cat-cat-mr-fresh-fresh-gif-4714710619997780774

[rigid dawn]

@solid oxide its just a game stop taking it too seriously

stop caring about climbing mmr and stop caring about losses

[solid oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ0S1WGyU64

[rigid dawn]

tis cookin

feels like crown is indeed falling tomorrow

[polar marten]

they are popping that crown

[snow ruin]

any crowners

[snow ruin]

@polar marten

[solid oxide]

traxex craft stocks are rising again

[snow ruin]

noooo

[solid oxide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1c6dzdm/i_traxex_crafted_this_uncanny_thing

[solid oxide]

dude the traxex craft guy is certainly something

[polar marten]

Chaos rises :)

[solid oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/alabama-woke-up-this-morning-sopranos-intro-gif-27523552

[sweet falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[rigid dawn]

crown falls in 5-7 hours from now

hopefully

@snow ruin leaky

[solid oxide]

insight: its not coming in 5 or 7 hours

it is coming

but not as soon as you think it is

theyre doing updates on staging at 2 am seattle time

that being said its crunch time

just set a watch alarm on the dedicated server

dont stay up

not on staging, not on dota 2 test but on the dedicated server

allow the silence to speak for itself

[snow ruin]

Dota 2 Megathread - Crownfall

https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/7428199535674663482

[solid oxide]

neat

[snow ruin]

@rigid dawn @solid oxide dota?

[solid oxide]

i can be there in roughly 10 min

take it or leave it

[rigid dawn]

maybe later or sometime soon

enjoying with some friends

[snow ruin]

the comic?

[rigid dawn]

the comic?

wut

[snow ruin]

enjoying the comic with friends?

[rigid dawn]

no just enjoying talking to them ;-;

also what comic

dota 2 comic is out?

yes

nvm

good shit ill read it later when i can give it my full attention

[solid oxide]

look at this schmuck

[glass thorn]

*good shit ill read it

later when i can give it

my full attention*

- lomely potat

[solid oxide]

socializing

[rigid dawn]

i used to socialize alot before

[solid oxide]

nothing better to do

(have fun)

[rigid dawn]

i have so many friends evern though i feel alone but idk

life is life

[rigid dawn]

ty

[solid oxide]

it's in the name

[snow ruin]

social potat

[rigid dawn]

yeah they are gone there is only one guy left

invite me when ur on dota

[solid oxide]

on standby

[rigid dawn]

i'm on standby too ready for duty 🫡 @snow ruin

[snow ruin]

gonna be a bit sorry

@rigid dawn @solid oxide hop on?

[solid oxide]

spare me 5 more mins pls

[rigid dawn]

as soon as rayne is up ill join vc

[rigid dawn]

@solid oxide

[solid oxide]

what do you think the horn was for

https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/4178852863469164127

https://www.dota2.com/crownfall

sorry ill read all of this and then get on

@snow ruin great work

[rigid dawn]

on?

did i miss something

@solid oxide join vc coms makes me feel more lonely

[solid oxide]

have patience

[rigid dawn]

I told you its dropping today

[solid oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-gif-20623729

[snow ruin]

skill ability hovers

labs update

hero categorization

[solid oxide]

sorry im taking so long i just wnat to check everything before i get on

sorry again

comic functional ingame

you must simply allow me to soak it in

this shouldnt take long

[snow ruin]

did you see the arcana styles

[solid oxide]

its all laid out in front of me

one min discord is NOT working

[snow ruin]

you can click around the map, theres secrets

[polar marten]

congrats to fallout76 for releasing

[solid oxide]

imperia has literally exactly 14 voicelines

[glass thorn]

*imperia has

literally exactly

14 voicelines*

- rayne

[solid oxide]

thats really funny

[solid oxide]

do NOT tick "strict solo queue matchmaking"

won 3 games today

starting to feel much better

i think im remembering how to play

[rigid dawn]

my first overwatch case waw

[solid oxide]

they started popping up recently again

[solid oxide]

HITLER IN MY GAME

overall not a bad haul today

we're back

[rigid dawn]

why do you care so much about mmr anw

[solid oxide]

its funny that id be caring about getting better in a game of which the appeal is improving your skill

im just sharing how ive climbed out of the pit i dug myself into and im on my way to recovering!

anyways

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lza-4lN_IBc

who even watches gorgc

like outside of hatewatching him for rage how is he even entertaining to anyone

he cant even make reviewing sets be entertaining dude just calls obviously nice sets trash

actually the asmongold of dota, straight up just some guy that somehow got really popular while absolutely lacking the qualities of an entertainer

ive never seen any clip of gorgc that isnt him raging so this vexes me

[snow ruin]

time to play another very wide skill variance game

[solid oxide]

not now sorry

its 6

ill be sleeping in about 20-30 mins

[snow ruin]

me too

[solid oxide]

literally synchronized

[rigid dawn]

waw sleeping coms

rare

ontime sleeping that is

[polar marten]

you get to improve by playing against better opponents. Buy an immortal account.

[solid oxide]

actual crownfall opinion: honestly i dont care much for the unlocks but as far as being the new battle pass, this is the best thing theyve done

no ringmaster is a bit disappointing but ill hold my tongue because they never said there will be a gameplay patch

im looking forward to the next acts and what they have in store

[solid oxide]

change for the sake of change isnt necessarily always good, i still think this patch is fun

ive had a lot of fun yesterday for example

[solid oxide]

the video preview on abilities is nice but i wish you could fullscreen it or something

i think its too small of a preview for a game like dota

[rigid dawn]

I wanna cry

2 games I played the support role so fucking hard and lost

One game as NP, lane failed to shit because the enemies kept killing me and carry gets no last hits in lane with 0 enemy agression on them

Try my best to get items and farm

Create infinite space on the map by making their teams try and push back the waves i kept cutting

Join teamfights and disable people with orchid and get kills

And after all the space I created, recovering from a lane i got destroyed in we still lost

Another game as pugna

Mid went meepo and kept feeding the enemies over and over and over and over again

Our own DK goes satanic second item like WHY?

Medusa support who never transistioned out of support after seeing the state of our other two cores

And me trying so hard to keep teammates alive and kill enemies and make space

My back hurts

[rigid dawn]

man i miss item cooldown reduction dazzle

dazzle core spammer i used to be

[solid oxide]

i miss necrobook dazzle

[snow ruin]

@solid oxide @rigid dawn dota?

[solid oxide]

in 30 mins

is that ok

?

[rigid dawn]

sure but my brain is less than functional

@snow ruin come now

[snow ruin]

@rigid dawn where is ryane

[rigid dawn]

he said 30 mins so yeah....

[solid oxide]

on standby

well

finishing up a call im on

and i can go

[rigid dawn]

coms is now a full on amazing digital circus fangirl

[solid oxide]

she just kins pomni

[rigid dawn]

join vc

[solid oxide]

im in a different vc right now

im waiting for a good moment to say "ok im going to go bye"

[snow ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-stare-the-amazing-digital-circus-huh-what-gif-14848454493863729355

[rigid dawn]

im tooo eepy

[solid oxide]

and im sick

dont let any excuse stop you

[snow ruin]

and im exhausted

[rigid dawn]

this too

[solid oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/i-frew-up-pomni-the-amazing-digital-circus-pomni-puke-frew-gif-17558847118305844907 me this morning

[rigid dawn]

ayayay

[rigid dawn]

Just turned off the 30 alarms that were supposed to wake me in an hour

[solid oxide]

https://twitter.com/discord/status/1782882602489377218 @snow ruin

Discord (@discord) on X

dota 2 daughter or genshin impact son

Twitter · Apr 23, 2024, 9:21 PM

[rigid dawn]

@solid oxide come soon i gtg in an hour

[snow ruin]

what is happening to rayne

[polar marten]

sigma

this made me smile and love everyone

[rigid dawn]

and this is where the farming truly begins

farming the enemies*

[rigid dawn]

marketing

@snow ruin dota soon?

[snow ruin]

@rigid dawn @solid oxide

[rigid dawn]

in a ranked game atm

[solid oxide]

oh

sorry