#I need help with angles on this joint

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exotic hound
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So I guess I'm not smart enough to figure out these angles, or rather to figure out how to cut them. I want to build something like this for a garden project. The instructions give me two specific angles for a miter saw (30°, 33.9°), but mine only has one adjustable angle (on the table). I should be able to adjust two angles on my table saw (blade and miter push thing). But I can't adjust them as finely as 33.9°...

I thought I could get away with adding a 30° angle on one end and screwing that to the side of the other board. But for reasons that I still can't figure out that doesn't yield a square...

I'm fine with a non fine woodworking solution, this is gonna get filled with dirt and grow strawberries, it'll have to take a beating.

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This is what I'm trying to achieve (in approximation)

oak marten
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I have linked something regarding compound angles on the wiki: https://wwwiki.org/en/technique/layout#splayed-miters-compound-angles; check https://woodgears.ca/miter/ and https://woodgears.ca/miter/splayed_miters.pdf. It's what makes "Trichterzinken" a bit of a challenge. I'm far from having fully grasped the issue. Meant to fully watch this one, since I think it covers it mostly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_k_alH8BO8

One of my Patreon supporters asked a question about making compound angled dovetails. These are actually just as easy to saw out as dovetails on square corners. The difficulty is in laying out and making the compound angled butt joint that is necessary to make before laying out the dovetails. In this video I go over the process for laying out...

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this one looks interesting as well, but you be the judge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjKDwxAOPiw

Double Bevel Dovetails are pretty tricky, but here's a hack that makes it easier for the newcomer.

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(looks a bit complicated, this "hack", but wdik)

exotic hound
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Thx, I'll check that out. I'm hoping to do it with power tools, but maybe the theory is transferable

ruby umbra
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Basically cutting crown molding if you need extra resources, lots of YouTube stuff on how to cut those. None I’ve seen with table saw tho.

wispy raptor
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I have not tried this method myself but looks applicable https://www.finewoodworking.com/2002/10/01/compound-angles-without-math

Compound angles can add visual interest to many projects where standard square joints can’t. And cutting compound-angle joinery doesn’t have to be intimidating. In this article, Steve Brown shares his simple technique for cutting compound-angle butt joints and miters on the tablesaw. No math is required; all you need is a bevel gauge and the des...

exotic hound
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Hmm I sadly can't read that, but thx

muted junco
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Given that you're doing this in a relatively low-precision outdoor environment, you might be able to get away with just scribing it. Especially if you have a laser level. Angle board on the floor to aesthetically-pleasing tilt; use a square to get 45-degrees in the plane of the floor, and then transfer that line onto both exposed faces of the board. You might have to hand-cut it to be able to follow it without a power saw that can do compound angles, but as long as you somehow shape the wood to match the line, it should work