Feedback Requests

[finite coral]

so much treble

[kind blaze]

oh crap im using headphones

thats why

lol

[finite coral]

i dont like bricking my mixes that much LOL

[kind blaze]

yeah ill fix that lol

my headphones are quite dull

[finite coral]

i use hyperx cloud stingers 😭

[kind blaze]

hmm that might be an issue on your side then, ill do a second mix with less treble but it sounds fine on my monitors

this better?

[finite coral]

yeh just bricked to hell

[kind blaze]

this new one?

[finite coral]

yea

[kind blaze]

oh god

[finite coral]

the one i sent is just the chorus thats bricked

[kind blaze]

this what you sent me

[finite coral]

o the vocals yeah

[blissful cliff]

I love zeros

[red shore]

my band just released a song and all the mix and production is done in house

do you guys like the sound of it

https://open.spotify.com/track/21zWMg9kFeHujqLEWyd00m?si=3jfNCLWjRsuTmMqD0quwkg&context=spotify%3Atrack%3A21zWMg9kFeHujqLEWyd00m

[hollow tulip]

oh damn the production sounds pretty solid imo

the guitars are solid while the bass is pretty audible

the drums punch through the mix and the vocals are heard through the instrumentals

[hollow tulip]

update
chorus is a bit underwhelming imo

[runic adder]

I may have gotten a little angry

vocals still need to be aligned and remixed, it's a copy pasted chain from another mix lmfao

guitars also need to be mixed a little

[fathom jewel]

nice

[versed remnant]

Beethoven Cover

[finite coral]

no bass?

[versed remnant]

I SWEAR THERES BASS IS IT STILL TO QUIET??

[finite coral]

i mean to me its quiet cuz this is my mix 😭

[finite coral]

tryna get the drums right 🥀

[tribal orbit]

When it comes to your bass, what does your EQ look like?

[versed remnant]

Top one is the electric bass

and the bottom is the sub

[tribal orbit]

Dog

Why are you high passing your bass at 100

It should be around maybe 25-50 hz at most

And that sub is super mid heavy

[versed remnant]

How can I fix it

I

still haven't learned eq

[tribal orbit]

Okay notice how you’re cutting the EQ at 100

Move that to 25-50 instead

And the sub should have boosts around the 85-100 mark instead of the mids (like where they are now)

[versed remnant]

Is this better?

[tribal orbit]

Better

I’m not sure you need that boost around 1k though

You typically cut mids in most EQ profiles for bass and guitar to leave room for vocals and the like

You don’t need to like full on neuter the mids, but maybe just lower the gain on them

[versed remnant]

okayokay

[tribal orbit]

Def look up some EQ tutorials when it comes to guitar and bass tho

[versed remnant]

More like this?

[tribal orbit]

Yeah that’s getting closer

[versed remnant]

okayokay

[tribal orbit]

I don’t have my daw in front of me. Remind me to screenshot what my typical bass EQ looks like

I’m off to bed in a bit

[versed remnant]

okay I will

goodnight broski

[tribal orbit]

See ya man

[runic adder]

if we're talking bass Eq, this is typically what mine would look like

i usually split the sub at 200-ish hz, hi-pass at 55, and for the grit track i'll usually just look for ringing frequencies I don't like

sometimes I'll boost 800 on the grit track for a cool growl sound

[versed remnant]

I will look into this more, how much is pro q tho bc I've wanted it for a bit but I'm poor

[runic adder]

you don't need pro q for this, it's just what I use

[versed remnant]

okayokay, can you send me a sample of what it sounds like by chance?

[runic adder]

it's what I have on my bass here, I can send it solo too but that'll take a minute

most of the sound comes from my chain in parallax, but for splitting the bass and processing the parts separately the idea is basically the same

[versed remnant]

okok and if you can send isolated that'd be swag

[versed remnant]

Is this any better? @runic adder @tribal orbit

[runic adder]

.wav

[runic adder]

chat I think your file is cooked

[versed remnant]

also added a tube screamer to the bass

Fixed it

@runic adder

[runic adder]

omg bass

yea that's a lot better, at least using the beethoven virus track as a reference

[versed remnant]

SCORE

What else can I do for my mix?

[runic adder]

I would raise the sub track by a db maybe but yea that's def better

[versed remnant]

okok

[runic adder]

you don't have to, just see hwo it sounds

[versed remnant]

okay I'ma throw some vocals on this and I'll send it again when its done

I did also turn up the snare

cuz I felt like it was quiet

[runic adder]

the snare sounds fine imo

[versed remnant]

I'll turn it back down

[runic adder]

lol

but yea esp listen to how much better the guitars sound with the sub of the bass

that's kinda what you're aiming for

typically in a mix I'll mute the top end track of the bass and mix in the sub track with the guitars, drums, and bass first

[versed remnant]

@runic adder Hows this?

[cerulean storm]

Something I've just started working on:

[tribal orbit]

bass is present

the guitars a little scratchy but like it's def an improvement

[faint thistle]

I know this is kinda the opposite question that tends to get asked for modern metal mixing but at the moment I'm stuck trying to get a nice sounding tone for regular 6-string stuff? I'm used to doing low-tuned 8 string tracks and the tone I use for that gets a bit abrasive on the high notes

[finite coral]

too much methinks

[finite coral]

for my style anyways

[runic adder]

yea thats good

[runic adder]

as in too much bass?

[finite coral]

too much eq

[runic adder]

oh

I don't think its a lot

you should see the rest of the chain lmao

[delicate estuary]

Needed a more "mainstream" metal song to include in a set I've got coming up. Our normal style is NWOBHM so tried to keep elements of that theme whilst making a more accessible song. Provisional title. Feedback appreciated thank you.

[kind blaze]

witch one is better

[kind blaze]

mix wise

[delicate estuary]

1st one, snare is pretty boomy and echo'y in the second

[dusk junco]

anyone have any tips on how to make this less repetitive. I want to continue more with the song but I just keep playing the same things over and over

[austere stag]

personally i would say second

[austere stag]

lead lines maybe, doesn't have to be complex just needs to fit the vibe, could be distorted or clean up to you, also maybe you if slip out of key just before it repeats again for 1 chord, it would change the feel though probably quite alot, up to you

[versed remnant]

I don't know what I've made but I'd like feedback on it

@tribal orbit @runic adder

[hollow tulip]

volume is rather low but sounds sick imo

kinda gives me a similar vibe to the guitar ring modulation fuckery that Car Bomb does

[hollow tulip]

ooh very deftones-y

i'm not the best guy when it comes to shoegazey stuff but i suggest you add some lead guitar (try something very ambient; tremolo and lots of reverb) for the chorus

[hollow tulip]

depends on the genre

i could see the 1st one being used in a 2000s melodic metalcore song, with the short but clicky kicks and boxy snare

2nd one sounds more suited for hard rock with the very clicky kick and booming snare and very hearable reverb

[hollow tulip]

update
added some lead guitar stuff for the chorus, slightly changed mixing for kicks and snare
no song extensions since i'm experiencing writer's block for the 2nd verse and forthcoming sections

[hollow tulip]

bro ts is FIRE 🔥 man I fucking love Beethoven Virus
shoutouts to Beethoven for making the original Pathetique Sonata
and BanYa and Diana for the banger remix I'm still hearing today
(and SAWTOWNE for that one song that had the motif in it)

[austere stag]

yeah im not sure what that's about, any louder and it red lines the master out, i probably need to change how i approach reaching appropriate LUFS. love car bomb ❤️

[hollow tulip]

yes it is too quiet

if what i'm hearing in the beginning is the bass then it's got a whole lot of treble trouble

increase the low end substantially

(oh crap i didn't see your future projects in this channel. the bass is finally hearable)

[runic adder]

listens to recreant once

once again there is no bass

sounds good otherwise

i very much hear CG self titled, the cleansing, and depths in there though, which is so sick

[kind blaze]

first time writing a guitar solo feedback apreciated

[austere stag]

good job i say, fits the vibe well, would need to listen to the whole rest of the song though to understand how well it completely fits though

[kind blaze]

here is my bands 1st ever song, we plan to release it do i would realy like feedback

[craggy plover]

not bad for a first song

I think the vocals has a bit much verb

but you did a good job in creating the vibe i really like it

[craggy plover]

0-5-7-8 riffs always goes hard

[hollow tulip]

Realest

[tribal orbit]

Only just seeing this now. I’ll listen to it when I get home

Tbh if you want me to see it sooner, dm me it. I haven’t been too active here

[wicked berry]

man this plugin rocks

[lavish sundial]

using buster plugins really feels like cheating

did not do a lot of mixing on this one and it just works

[wicked berry]

yeah the plugin is crazy.. I can finally use an outrageous thall tone and play in real time with barely any latency since I'm not using a million plugins

[blissful cliff]

what's the plugin called?

[wraith hare]

odeholm drums user here. trying to do some cover on depeche mode

[wicked berry]

thall amp

by odeholm audio

[runic adder]

Me when the amp is thall

[umbral turtle]

helo which type of rock is this?

[thick sigil]

We tried something different with this release. No pitch correction on main vocals, guitars not super snapped to grid, real drums. Prod / mix / master by Spencer from Periphery. What do you guys think about it?

https://ffm.to/y1oj2xx

[vale vapor]

very good stuff, a breath of fresh air in a sea of every modern metal production sounding the same

could probably use some more unique elements/ear candy here and there, very much is a "metalcore" track for sure

but the chorus is catchy and verses go hard

Super super super duper props for doing real drums. I'm so tired of every band using superior drummer 3 lol

good stuff guys!

glad to see people finally doing more with less

[thick sigil]

The drums were a fuckin pain in the ass hahaha but honestly I think so worth it. I'm glad you dig it tho & appreciate the compliment. Definitely a much more "straight forward" song for sure, gonna try and experiment a little more moving forward

[vale vapor]

yeah for real, i recorded drums for my band's album all from scratch so i know the pain

but yeah definitely keep working with real drums, it only gets better as you do it more

and don't be afraid to chop it up and keep the production interesting. a realistic mix doesn't always have to mean less interesting and ear catching production!

Take influence from literally anything you enjoy, even non-metal genres

If you ever need help with that i've been producing for almost a decade, so don't be afraid to reach out if you need some ideas or insight ;)

[vale vapor]

also the dude on the right looks like ryan reynolds 😂

[fathom jewel]

I'm just trying to process how he got spencer sotelo to mix/master for him 🤯

nice track

[thick sigil]

Hahaha we flew out to hang for a week to record with him. Honestly was kinda random. We ended up tracking 2 songs, he's flying to our HQ in Nashville to stay with us for a week while we bang out the rest of the EP 🫡

[thick sigil]

Appreciate you homie!!

[vale vapor]

Yessir dude keep it up!

[austere stag]

this kind

[austere stag]

doomy noise type stuff played on a bass vi, no lower bass though yet

[shut igloo]

yo what do u guys think of this

first track that i made with my new 8 string

@tribal orbit @hollow tulip @austere stag

@runic adder @versed remnant @finite coral

[hollow tulip]

intro going strong

[shut igloo]

@fringe geode @kind blaze @muted breach

[shut igloo]

lessgooo

[hollow tulip]

tapping part at 1:21 is real nice

[shut igloo]

really appreciate it mate

i had that riff in my mind for quite some time

just needed an idea to put it out

[hollow tulip]

breakdown goes hard with the dotted note sounding rhythm

though i kinda feel the left/right guitars on the pre-breakdown could have their volumes lowered down to make the breakdown feel more impactful

[shut igloo]

noted

i might actually do that

also does anyone of you know some good band that utilize 8 string guitars xD just bought me a new one

[hollow tulip]

imo mix-wise so far so good, the kick and snare should be a bit louder and possibly punchier

[shut igloo]

okii

[runic adder]

0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

lmao

love the ambience in the intro

[shut igloo]

and a natural harmonic in between xD

[runic adder]

yeah but it's not as funny to say 0-0-0-0-<4>-0-0-0

personally, when the intro riff repeats at 2:40, I'd switch the cymbal to a china but that's just me

lofi guitars at 2:54 are too loud methinks

also, personally, when the breakdown repeats at 3:21, I'd come in with a double time feel snare

not really double time, but instead of having a snare every other 4 I'd put it on every 3 for that second repeat

again, just me and my tastes when writing

[runic adder]

got the whole ping rotation on this damn lmao

[shut igloo]

didnt get this point

[runic adder]

give me 5 minutes

and the track bpm pls

[shut igloo]

aight

[shut igloo]

145 bpm,

[runic adder]

[shut igloo]

🫡

[runic adder]

@shut igloo

drums only, example of what I meant

after it loops, the snare picks up in timing

[shut igloo]

OH

GOT IT

THAT WOULD GO SUPER HARDDD

THANKS FOR THE IDEA

[runic adder]

made a screenshot for it, as in the snare originally is on the 4th beat opf every other measure, shown in yellow, vs in green where it's on the 3rd beat of every measure

[runic adder]

no problem

[shut igloo]

gotye

imma do that tommorow morning

first thing

[runic adder]

aight

[shut igloo]

yessir

really appreciate your idea

:)

[runic adder]

my pleasure

i really need to get back to work on my 8 string songs but both my 7 and 8 are out of commission atm

[shut igloo]

why so? wut happened to em

[runic adder]

miss my big boys fr

[runic adder]

strings died and havent been able to get any yet

[shut igloo]

u can add a tapping or a looping lick whenever the main riff comes up

in the first one

[runic adder]

ooh some ambience on that would be cool

[shut igloo]

yessir

ambience always works out

[shut igloo]

love the riff in mirrors from 0:37

[runic adder]

Yuhhh

[fringe geode]

This slaps but them drums got be upped.

Slam me in the face with those drums.

[hollow tulip]

pretty nice

liking that shoegazy intro into the djenty stuff

intro riff goes hard with the triplet riff

outro riff was cool and gives it a nice contrast to the slow heaviness of the overall song, wish it was longer

overall nice, I suggest that the master should be a bit louder and the drums more louder/pronounced

[fringe geode]

Oh this is a slightly older version. It's the only one I had on hand.

[hollow tulip]

oh okay

modern metalcore thing
vocals still done with Synthesizer V (only screams yet since I haven't written the chorus yet)

[fringe geode]

Yeee. I initially wrote this back in 2021 for something I was working on. Project went belly up so now I use this song as practice.

[hollow tulip]

i see

[fringe geode]

How do you get SynthV to scream?

[hollow tulip]

there's a script online that can make notes you put in the synthv piano roll "growl"

just search up "synthesizer v growl"

i usually put the screamed notes on the lower end of the piano roll (probably around c2-c4 whatever works best) and put the renderer on "prefer speed"

and apply synthv growl

after that i bounce the screamed vox into files and put them in my daw

and apply post processing

post processing does like 50% of the magic

i use howard benson vocals first (still pretty new to this vocal mixing stuff)

then eq it

and apply a miniscule amount of delay to make the stereo a bit wider (you can omit it if you want to)

[shut igloo]

How do I do that

[shut igloo]

Yo what's synthV

[fringe geode]

Ohhhhh

[hollow tulip]

it's a vocal synthesizer software similar to the likes of Vocaloid

it's scary realistic

here's an example of a song using Synthesizer V so you can get a feel of what it sounds like

https://youtu.be/sqK-jh4TDXo?feature=shared

[shut igloo]

And how do u put screaming vocals innit

[hollow tulip]

synthesizer v isn't designed for screaming vocals (except for a select few voicebanks)

the singer i'm using, Kasane Teto, isn't designed for screaming so i had to do some work to make it sound half-convincing

[hollow tulip]

i explained it here but you can look for tutorials online

[shut igloo]

Okayy

It's a diff realm that imma enter

[hollow tulip]

there will be cleans in this one but i haven't thought up the chorus yet

when you do hear the clean vocals they're pretty convincing

[shut igloo]

Ohhhhh

Imma look into this stuff

[balmy forum]

hi! can anyone give me some feedback for this?

[dapper charm]

I would really appreciate any thoughts on my polyphia inspired track 😁 “Rosaceae”
https://youtu.be/jDoLQYsDPzI

[fringe geode]

Everyone has their own chain but I'd start with compression on the drum bus.

[shut igloo]

Done that already

[austere stag]

yeh the tapping part is cool, what guitar did you get?

[shut igloo]

Cort Kx508ms

[austere stag]

lead needs to be a little less loud and rhythm guitars need to be louder, then post again

and i'll have another listen, tag me though plz

[austere stag]

this is cool, tone sounds beastly, the composition might need some more dynamics to liven up the basic (although still effective) riffs

[austere stag]

nice, also what thickness plectrum are you using?

[shut igloo]

I use jazz 3

Not sure what's their thickness is

Prolly 1.5 or 2

[austere stag]

maybe try a thinner pick like .7 or .6, sharp pointed tip if possible, it will bring the pick attack through more which is important for each note definition and you can get a nice bloomy sorta note pick for your recordings, you don't have to use it all the time, just recording.

[shut igloo]

I see, yea m pretty sure my jazz 3 pretty much blunt

[austere stag]

mh hm! these sorta things become more important with the thicker strings on these extended range instruments.

there are production tricks you can do to create a similar thing but i would say if you can naturally do it acoustically on the instrument then do it, personally anyways

[shut igloo]

Noted 🫡

[fringe geode]

Do you put it on only the drum bus or on the shells too

[runic adder]

just get a titanium pick smh then you won't have to worry about it going blunt

[shut igloo]

How much do they cost 💀

[runic adder]

twas mostly a joke, but the one I have was $25

myself and the guys in my band use them, we have a good relationship with the maker, ohm picks

[hollow tulip]

update

chorus is finally there

[blissful cliff]

Triplet breakdown go wheee

would like opinions : )

[blissful cliff]

needs to be mixed better, but it sounds pretty dope

[fringe geode]

Update

[shut igloo]

the atmos/ambience goes HARDDD

[shut igloo]

wut are shells

[fringe geode]

Those are the actually drums themselves. Like Toms, Snare, Kick, those are shells.

[shut igloo]

Yeah I put compression on bus and shell both

[fringe geode]

Okay, do you mess with your attack and release at all or just a little bit, cuz that's partially how you get them to smack you like that.

[shut igloo]

I just put soundgoodizer 💀💀

[shut igloo]

Can u like explain what the important knobs are and what they do or send a vid that's to the point

[fringe geode]

Attack: How fast the compressor kicks in and grabs the signal.

Release: How quickly it let's go of the signal.

So for drums I find that you want a slow attack and a fast release.

[fringe geode]

https://youtu.be/hWNgXOdREPE?

[shut igloo]

Alrighty I shall look into it

[fringe geode]

Joey Sturgis has a bunch of YouTube videos on his channel on how to mix that are very helpful. The man is a metalcore mixing legend and mixed guys like The Devil Wears Prada, For the Fallen Dreams, and old school Attack Attack.

So you should definitely look at some of his stuff. That's how I started learning how to mix.

[shut igloo]

Alrightyyyy

Alrightyyyy

So what setting should I have on snares kicks and cymbal shells

[runic adder]

@shut igloo to elaborate a little on drum comp:
You typically want between 3-30ms attack. That'll catch the transient (aka the initial smack) of the drum
I typically run a ratio of 6:1, and set the threshold so that I get 6db gain reduction when the compressor kicks in
I'm still toying with release settings but I typically run it pretty quick, like iirc 2-10ms

your shells are what you really want to compress, so the kick, snare, and toms

the cymbals, typically referred to as "metals", i tend to leave uncompressed

i have two main OH mics and one specific cymbals mic in my drum VST routing, I'll EQ the OH mics but leave them uncompressed, and then I'll hit the cymbals specific mic with Devil-loc because I like the way it sounds

if you have OH mics for specific drums, such as a snare OH or a kick OH, those get compressed, but I don't like compressing the main OH mics where the cymbals live, it tends to duck them a little too much and sounds weird

I don't typically compress my drum bus, though sometimes I'll send the toms and snare and sometimes kick to a separate channel to apply parallel compression, aka compressing the fuck out of them on a separate channel and miing it in with the less compressed channels through levels

[rose dirge]

I'm curious, you think these vocals are too quiet? I hear a lot of different songs out there that have vocals louder than the instrumental & vice versa. I personally like it a bit ducked beneath the instruments but the small adjustments are pretty tough at the end.

https://youtu.be/7LANpeHX-o0?feature=shared

[versed remnant]

thoughts on this weird genre fusion of sorts

[strong seal]

honestly kind of a bop i cannot lie and there's a blegh so bonus points

This is my first time trying deathcore anyone got any feedback on it ?

[austere stag]

veil of maya meets chiodos type idea in drop C

[austere stag]

metal plectrums are very interesting, i used to use a copper one, but it was shredding my string and the tone is a bit too shrill for me imo in recordings

[runic adder]

Fair

For me I like the attack it gives, and the only time it’s broken strings were when they were rusted to all Hell

Though the different materials could probably interact with the strings differently

[dapper charm]

Yooo I would really appreciate any thoughts on my polyphia inspired track 😁 it’s definitely still a work in process “Rosaceae” (Rose-Ayy-See-Eye)
https://youtu.be/jDoLQYsDPzI

[cerulean storm]

It's always so hard for me to make my vocals fit in my mixes. I don't really know what to do and I'm probably gonna sit with this one for the coming millennia before I get satisfied

[wraith hare]

Idk tried to do something

[wraith hare]

is that ezdrummer "metal!" ezx

[strong seal]

nah this is a just the base FL Studio drum plugin that i put some extra sounds in, still mostly unmixed until i finish the song as a whole but right now it just has simple reverb and compression

[wraith hare]

i thought i heard ezdrummer "metal!" though
sounds the same

anyways your drum track has too much compression in my opinion

[fringe geode]

@wraith hare

This is EZDrummer. Not Metal but the standard EZD3 library

[wraith hare]

listening this on my phone rn - sounds really great imo

[lost dew]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPP4DKSMMSSqD89eCOVwvkG1LunwiyY3w

My album

[empty roost]

Toughts?

[runic adder]

very metalcore, i think it fits

was waiting for you to hit those high notes lol

once i get new strings a friend and I are gonna work on a cover of takedown

[empty roost]

Fire. When you guys make it send it to me

[runic adder]

ill post it here and ping ya

probably wont be for a while but ill kjeep it in mind

[versed remnant]

went back to metalcore

[austere stag]

sounds cool

noise doomy groovy deathcorey stuff

[hollow sorrel]

I just spent 4 hours remixing this god forsaken track

[hollow sorrel]

This rules

[balmy forum]

this is what happens when you feed a guitarist too much fred again

[hollow sorrel]

Can't tell which sounds better

[cerulean storm]

Something I've just started working on

[balmy forum]

both feel like the amp gain is at 11

but they sound cool

[hollow sorrel]

Definitely had a ton of gain in the bass department, the guitars had a lot less but I quad tracked most of them

[balmy forum]

how many tracks does it have

[hollow sorrel]

A lot. The intro was quad tracked, the next part was triple tracked, the next dual, back to quad, quad again, triple, then double, then quad again

[balmy forum]

i mean id have an atempt at mixing it for you but that sounds hard to export

[hollow sorrel]

The bass was just one track, straight through

[hollow sorrel]

I did some serious stuff in post just to get it to sound like that, the tones are intentional, the main thing I was struggling with mixing was the bass, had too much 200-500hz, then not enough

[balmy forum]

i mean id still do it but i dont wanna waste you time exporting

[hollow tulip]

wip of whatever this is
trying something outside of metal

[vale vapor]

your drums definitely need alot of work

super duper muffled

[vale vapor]

also, definitely don't need to be quad tracking rhythm guitars unless the parts are very much different

you just get a weird phasey sound when you do all the same part

[hollow tulip]

imo the snare is a bit too boomy or muffled for my taste

[vale vapor]

i used to do that, it doesn't sound good, trust

yeah snare is very boomy and muffled

[vale vapor]

teto 🤩

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-mesmerizer-gif-1651698684609187246

[hollow tulip]

ooo nice piano intro

[hollow sorrel]

I didn't hear any phasing issues with quad tracking. I panned two tracks hard left/right and the other two 70% left and 70% right

[vale vapor]

oh god

never partially pan

always ALWAYS hardpan rhythm guitars

yeah that's just phase issue central

and not only phase specifically, it just doesn't sound good unless the parts are occupying different ranges

you do not need to quad track for a thick guitar sound

[hollow sorrel]

They all had different tones entirely

[vale vapor]

Doesn't matter

it ends up sounding extremely cluttered and messy

especially with pick attacks

[balmy forum]

you like?

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/pearto-fade-pearto-pearto-fade-in-hello-pearto-kasane-pearto-gif-3303621009483295353

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-bald-explosion-explode-gif-6656963363388285940

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/pearto-die-gif-1536505270317191947

[wraith hare]

also

[craggy plover]

reminds me of MIW creatures era

the synth sound Is cool but hearing It during the whole Song makes It boring in my opinion

[wraith hare]

thanks for the feedback on this!

yeah, I noticed that myself after rendering the track
gonna try to record vocals soon and fix the synths

[vale vapor]

mix is a little smashed but nice hearing this kind of metal in 2025

[wraith hare]

guess which sample i used here
(it was used in games like half life 2 and postal)

[balmy forum]

sounds like somthing from the start of truth and reconciliation from halo

[hollow sorrel]

@vale vapor @hollow tulip I entirely redid the drums

The cymbals were grating and killing my ears so I turned them down and EQ'd some of the really high high end out 😭

[vale vapor]

@hollow sorrel your cymbals sounded better before

but in general, cymbals are way way too loud

Kick is almost inaudible

bass is too loud

snare is still super muffled

Try taking all processing off of everything and trying to do it as minimally as possible

what does your snare and kick eq look like? and what compression settings?

@hollow sorrel if you want to send me stems i can do a 30 second demo mix to show you an example of a mix you should aim for

[hollow sorrel]

I'll do that now! I finally compiled them into a Google Drive, I'll send them to @balmy forum too

[hollow sorrel]

When I did those I didn't even split the drums into separate stems 😭, I just did that now and sent everything over 🙂

[hollow sorrel]

I made a somewhat better mix

[austere stag]

there's some cool elements here but not sure about the levels

[hollow sorrel]

I've been working on it, just made a new version

Made it too loud, lowered it a bit

[austere stag]

that composition is wild ahah! it's sounding clearer but now it's like missing mids and low mids

[hollow sorrel]

This is the mixing style I'm going for with my limited resources 😭
https://youtu.be/io2c-v0Ro1Y?si=oBxCSvmLFKZTVeC4

I tried mixing Meshuggah, Obscura era Gorguts, and ska on that one

[austere stag]

do you have any spectral analysis plugins?

or frequency analysis plugins

like an eq that shows you the waveform as it plays and you can pause it

[hollow sorrel]

Nope

[austere stag]

lemme see if i can find a decent free one

[austere stag]

upload your latest version in mp3 or wav format and i'll run some spectral analysis and compare it to what you want it to sound like

[hollow sorrel]

Does M4A work or does it have to be MP3/WAV?

[austere stag]

yes please

needs to be at least mp3

[austere stag]

the green is roughly the track you want it to sound like and the red is yours

[hollow sorrel]

Thank you

[austere stag]

hopefully you can read that ok

[hollow sorrel]

I can!

[austere stag]

want some tips on what to change and what not?

[hollow sorrel]

Yes please! I started by adding more sub lows to the kick and bass

[austere stag]

ok im gonna dm you coz we be blowing this up with production tips otherwise (not that i'm against that it's just not what this thread is for)

[hollow sorrel]

Thank you 🙏

[balmy forum]

ah! thanks i really needed somthing to do lol

[sudden vector]

Sounds great man! Mix is good

[empty roost]

working on an original, lmk what yall think

[sudden vector]

Post fx are a little too loud for my taste. Is this a demo or something you are mixing?

[sudden vector]

How long have you been mixing so I have some context on where you are at?

Currently working on some of my personal demos while I am waiting on my next prod/mix project. This is a demo I have been cooking up for a couple weeks now lmk what you think about the song. It's not mixed or anything keep that in mind.

[empty roost]

Just a demo, I made this whole thing in about three hours before bed, barely mixed lol

Just a rough draft to get feedback if the song itself is worth developing

[empty roost]

Finish this NOW!!! But seriously, with a different drum rack that fits it better, this would go crazy

(I just think the snare could be different, maybe a higher tuned one? Thinking of limp bizkit chocolate starfish style)

Not to mention my shitty guitar playing

[wraith hare]

i kinda edited intro and made a bunch of tweaks to secondary track

i tried to match eskimo callboy's bury me in vegas snare because i really like its sound

[sudden vector]

Definitely worth developing

[wraith hare]

used drumforge joey sturgis for main snares (ember & matchbox), joel wanasek's snare attack for transience and kohle's death ring snare for ring

[hollow sorrel]

Less than a year

[vale vapor]

refreshing to hear metal that isn't in double drop F in 2025

[vale vapor]

kick and snare can come down a ton, main synth can come down too, maybe even a high shelf rolloff cause the highs on that synth are pretty buzzy

also, bass can come up

[vale vapor]

kind of a crazy snare setup lol, i've never layered more than 2 snares

wouldn't 3 be complicating all your velocity notes?

phasing issues?

[runic adder]

Just because you said that

[vale vapor]

:(

every band sounds the same now 😭

im so burnt out on low tunings

they aren't fun anymore

[runic adder]

Lmao

That’s real tho

[vale vapor]

Also odeholm drums lol

[runic adder]

Oh yeah I don’t like odeholm drums

Wasn’t even interested in thall amp

[cerulean storm]

One of the last songs on the album. Probably gonna tweak it a lot more and then add some vocals.

[swift flower]

A little song i wrote and recorded and mastered in my bedroom, interested to hear what are some areas I can improve on for next time 🙂

[wraith hare]

idk i don't really hear phasing issues in my mix

[wraith hare]

i remember trying to replicate psycho frame snare

layering 8 snares + mixwave lorna shore

i tried to edit the mix here

[wraith hare]

imo bury me in vegas album has the best mixing in the EC's discography

[vale vapor]

bass feels a little drowned out, and the snare is a little snappy and static

are you using any sidechain compression at all?

[wraith hare]

no

[balmy forum]

listen i hate to say this but your gonna need to re do those drums

[wraith hare]

Been scavenging through my old stuff, found this cool track from 2024

[vale vapor]

I'd use it to have your cymbals duck a little from the kick and snare

And the bass duck from the kick about 3-4db

[tidal stream]

Here is a song demo, i need your opinion. Is the writing halfway decent for my first song?

[balmy forum]

yeah! playings great too!

[grave kestrel]

short thall thing

[sudden vector]

The center guitar is the beginning is a little muddy on the tone IMO. Maybe add a tiny bit of low mids to the vocals they sound thin and crispy. Maybe also add a thicker drum room. Maybe focus on getting guitar takes more in time, some feel off time which makes the stereo of the guitars feel off.

[sudden vector]

If this is your first ever song, then I would say you are going in the right direction. I was doing these type of demos when I first started. Just start slapping that in a DAW with some drums and you are on your way! It might sound like crap at first, and that's okay! Have fun

[sudden vector]

Sounds great so far bro! Those drums might be over compressed though (IMO) they just feel squashed and too pumpy. I would figure out a way to open them up and this mix will start sounding killer, gtr tones and everything else would be great with a polished mix IMO.

[swift flower]

sorry can i just clarify, what do you mean by adding a thicker drum room?

[sudden vector]

Sure, add me as a friend. I have a reel that explains this but don't want to self promo this channel

[fringe geode]

Just something I made for fun no idea wtf to do with it.

@wraith hare @vale vapor @balmy forum

[vale vapor]

liquid death snare?

i like this mix

[fringe geode]

.o.

I made this in like an hour.

Not knowing wtf I was doing XD

Also for those who care about them geetar tonez. Im using Archetype Plini X.

[fringe geode]

Gretsch Bell Brass if I remember correctly.

[balmy forum]

sounds good

[fringe geode]

^_^

[balmy forum]

what daw you use?

sorry my c and d keys are broken so i try not to use them

[fringe geode]

Reaper :3

[balmy forum]

nice

what is that drum kit

[fringe geode]

An EZD3 frankenkit

[balmy forum]

yippiiee

if you added some synths it might sound cool

[fringe geode]

Where would the synths go? O.o

[balmy forum]

maybe like an arp and a saw lead or somthing like that

[fringe geode]

Hmmmm I'll play around with it using Arc Rabea's synth

[balmy forum]

yeah!

[vale vapor]

based

[vale vapor]

double based

most of my kits are mixed samples

usually in multiple different vsts too lol

some are obscure old free samples from kits from like decades ago

[fringe geode]

Hey man those obscure ones from years ago still go hard.

[vale vapor]

yep

[balmy forum]

ml drums still go hard

just somthing i thought was needed

[fringe geode]

ML Drums is a great competitor to EZD. Honestly I think it's EZDs only competitor in the realm of fully customizable kits.

Yeah GGD kits are great but they don't do what ML and EZD do.

They do got some amazing sounds tho.

[vale vapor]

ml is great

[balmy forum]

ml is free

GGd is over priced

i have nu metal and i regret it

[vale vapor]

i bought pop punk kit

worth it

$60

its good

[fringe geode]

@wicked berry @fathom jewel @tribal orbit

I think I've finally made something that sounds cool af production wise.

At least to me, and it was an accident.

[runic adder]

nice

[wraith hare]

ay i'm late but this track sounds cool

[hollow tulip]

wip

[fringe geode]

This fucks so hard. Too bad I don't got a midi keyboard to write piano with. I gotta draw it out with a mouse and it's irritating.

Plus I'm not good at piano XD

[fathom jewel]

the best ideas are made just for fun

[fringe geode]

Hell yeah. Also anyone who says Arc Plini isn't heavy af well I think I proved them wrong XD

[balmy forum]

hi, this good?

[fringe geode]

I like vibes a lot.

[balmy forum]

exuse the random doulde kick part

i got bored

does anyone here use ableton

i made a writing template i thought might be nice to share

[balmy forum]

i mainly use it for clean and lead stuf but yeah i agree plini fuckin rips

[balmy forum]

@vale vapor i know you hate compressed drums but it just made that end so much better

[vale vapor]

I don't hate compressed drums

[balmy forum]

oh

well what does smashed mean

[vale vapor]

You processed them badly

I'm on the road tho i wont be able to listen for a few days

Got only phone speakers

[balmy forum]

oooff

[runic adder]

wah

[runic adder]

Yeah but Gojira does basically the same thing and was scientifically proven to be heavier ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[balmy forum]

oh shut up /j

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-humpback-gif-18796769

[balmy forum]

@runic adder you like song?

[balmy forum]

old spirit type riff

[balmy forum]

oo tripelet chuuuugs

[runic adder]

very metalcore

cant comment on tthe mix as of right now but I'll be back at my rig llater tonight so maybe I could offer some feedback there

sound nice on a first listen tho

[balmy forum]

why thank you

everyting in that song is free

[runic adder]

?

[wicked berry]

wish i could write stuff like this

really cool mate

i might drop a song im making here for advice on what to put next

im a little bit stuck

i'll do that in a minute

[fringe geode]

Nawww bro you're too kind. Honestly I write this shit cuz I'm not a very technical player. So I use my limited rhythm chops to try and make something cool.

[wicked berry]

ffo: synestia, disembodied tyrant, lorna shore

this is barebones and since its in the writing stage its unmixed (meaning youll be hearing a lot of presets includign odeholm drums). also, the drums in lots of parts are just copied and pasted, i plan to make them bnetter, and some of the guitar in parts arent recorded. all that being said, if anyone has any ideas of what i should do next lmk.

the blank empty parts in the breakdown will be room for vocals btw.

[balmy forum]

the plugins and stuff

[runic adder]

i see

[runic adder]

guitars and bass can come up a little

also you compressed the drum bus way too hard

at 4:05 you can hear it in the cymbals - you don't want that

ease up on tthe ratio and release, or just don't comp the drum bus

[runic adder]

what tto do next for writing: either key change chorus or fade out with just the orchestral parts
mix-wise: guitars and bass should come up a little

[balmy forum]

hey im bored and i need someone to nerd out about mixing

anyone down?

[twilit sapphire]

stir the pot

[midnight schooner]

hii im new to production and kinda have no clue what im doing lmao what should i do with this? it feels pretty lacky in parts but idk what exactly to mess around with

[fringe geode]

Slightly adjusted.

[balmy forum]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverb

[finite coral]

why are the guitars so wet

[finite coral]

great tone

drums sound like its just one pattern looping though but guitar sounds awesome

[fringe geode]

I used Arc Plini X's Crunch Amp boosted and Parallax.

[twilit sapphire]

fuck shit up hardcore/slam

[midnight schooner]

Yeah probably because I put too much reverb on. eveerything
Still figuring out tone and all that

[somber vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpnmZIqb4II - this is a pair of mashup albums I've made myself, feel free to evaluate it

[hollow tulip]

damn blocked by umg

[hollow tulip]

mix is probably well-suited for slam stuff, clipped and in your face. 👍

self explanatory.
inspired by the tracks "Phony (feat. KAFU)" by tsumiki, and "Makka (feat. Natsuki Karin)" by Yuyoyuppe
wrote bare instrumentals for the intro and chorus. verse coming soon

[vale vapor]

bass is pretty loud but this is pretty cool

[fringe geode]

@hollow tulip

Wot you think?

[hollow tulip]

hold on

[fringe geode]

I veered off from using the Mark IIC+ and used Arc Plini instead. Note: I had no idea what I was doing and made it out of frustration.

[hollow tulip]

I'm currently off my computer and using my other pair of earbuds feedback may probably be inaccurate

But nice guitar tone

Open chords have a slight Deftones-y vibe

Is this supposed to be like an intro or a part of a guitar solo in the middle of the song

Bc the lead guitar is silent enough to be part of the ambience

Imo

[fringe geode]

Nah. I was tryna do something else and I got mad and made this out of frustration thinking it was some bullshit thing.

[hollow tulip]

Oh ok

[fringe geode]

Only after mixing it did I realize "wait wtf did I just do?"

[fringe geode]

On my headphones (cuz that's what I mix on cuz can't use speakers atm) they sounded alright.

As a rhythm guy I'm more concerned if the riff hits.

[hollow tulip]

riff is good

mixture of some chords and chugs

[fringe geode]

Then am happy. Lol I have caveman brain.

[runic adder]

immdeediately heard the influence from phony lol

[hollow tulip]

real

[runic adder]

now do a mesmeriser

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-mesmerizer-miku-dance-loop-gif-2298826970178240268

[hollow tulip]

Soon™

This song's been stuck in my head for a while so that MIGHT become a possibility

[runic adder]

promised myself ii'd do a cover of teo at some point

hoping it doesn't turn into a year of me telling myself that

[hollow tulip]

or maybe a Machine Love remix, idk

[hollow tulip]

May you get your 10000000000 abandoned projects done 🙏

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-teto-utau-vocaloid-dog-gif-15273741061326579394

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/pearto-die-gif-1536505270317191947

[obtuse crystal]

Ik I'm pretty late, but I really love the drums and the guitar. Did you use like a real guitar or a virtual one? And what drums are you using?

[finite coral]

real

getgood drums

[obtuse crystal]

Matt halpern signature pack, right?

[finite coral]

i think invasion its called

or sm like that

[obtuse crystal]

Cause here's the thing, I've collected like a handful of drums from GGD, and even one library from Gojira

Yet, I cannot get the sound that I want, mainly cause of my lack of experience in producing metal and because I'm using FL Studio

[finite coral]

im on fl too lol

[obtuse crystal]

Damn

Do you use like fabfilter plugins for mixing or?

[finite coral]

yeah

my most recent metal thing but its just in the breakdown and outro

[obtuse crystal]

Are you using a real guitar or a vst one

Also, it's fire

[finite coral]

real guitar

[obtuse crystal]

Ohh

I collected like a bunch of vst ones

[cerulean storm]

New song concept for my seasons album, 3rd entry "Autumn Leaves". Ambient/Atmospheric black metal.

[charred panther]

Made a track in a day 😛 nothing crazy or talented like everyone else but it was fun creating it 🤘🏽

And I have this one that I’ve been working on for a while 😬🌞

[fringe geode]

I applied the new Archetype Misha Mansoor X to a old mix I was working on.

@vapid eagle

[runic adder]

Arch enemy vibes

[fringe geode]

Soo uhhh guys

How does one dj0nt

@vale vapor @wicked berry @fathom jewel

Am I doing it right?

[vale vapor]

mix sounds great

[wicked berry]

this is a vibe I love it

[fringe geode]

Really? I honestly got no clue I don't do this kinda metal XD

[vale vapor]

what do you usually mix

[fringe geode]

Well I usually mix my own stuff which is bit like Thrash mixed with Alt Metal. Think Mark Tremonti with Rabea ambience.

[vale vapor]

send an example!

idk who either of those people are tho haha

[fringe geode]

I'll admit I stumble a lot in the dark.

Actually here's a better example. @vale vapor

[vale vapor]

yeah the you're really good at mixing

how long you been doing it?

[vale vapor]

i think the drums have too much verb overall

actually the whole track is a little too wet

but it sounds good otherwise!

personally not huge on the kick

[fringe geode]

I started learning a little before the pandemic hit. Arc Nolly had just come out along with Parallax and I was using GGD with EZD to write the drums.

[vale vapor]

ah so yeah you got a good bit of experience

you got a ton of potential! your mixes sound great

[fringe geode]

If that's what you wanna call it. I call it falling down the stairs over and over again XD

I feel Im just now starting to figure it out.

[vale vapor]

that's exactly what experience is

learning from failure

[fringe geode]

I guess you're right :3

I will admit I had a little help. This engineer who started in the 70s in my college taught me a couple tricks he used when he was still working.

[vale vapor]

that's sick

[fringe geode]

Yeah he was really cool. And sometimes in order to teach me, he had to give me stuff outside of rock and metal to mix.

[vale vapor]

wanna hear a mix i did recently

it's a mix recreation, actually, i covered a song and i was trying to replicate the mix as close as i could

i actually found the exact snare that the original used which is fun

[fringe geode]

Sure!

[vale vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmr3I8qAh-M

here's the original for reference

[vale vapor]

everything in this file is me, vocals included

i'd say it's like 98% accurate

his guitar tone is slightly different, not too sure how he was able to achieve that

but i got pretty close

kind of a nasally tone

[fringe geode]

This fucking slaps.

[vale vapor]

TYSM

[fringe geode]

Gotta ask, how do you get the guitars to be so clear like that? Usually after I take out the problems with subtractive EQ, I'll add some EQ in certain areas (though I don't like to go too far), then saturate it, then add some life to it.

I know everyone's ear is different so they hear differently and make slightly different moves but still.

[vale vapor]

my guitar chain is actually super minimal

ive never used saturation on my guitars post-amp

usually my chain is something like

• tuner
• gate
• tube screamer
• amp
• cab sim
• slight EQ (highpass and lowpass, maybe taking out some honky annoying freqs if needed)
• limiter

that's it

[fringe geode]

Oh wow.

[vale vapor]

for example the EQ on this cover looks like this

not too much going on

[fringe geode]

EYYYYY TDR NOVA

[vale vapor]

YESSIR

[vale vapor]

just cutting out some low end rumble, cutting high end buzzing, and increasing 1.5k just a tad

and a little dip around 180 for the snare

[fringe geode]

Why specifically 180?

[vale vapor]

that's around where the fundamental (lowest note) of the snare sits at!

[fringe geode]

I thought it was at 200. I usually boost 200 a bit. Never thought to dip 180 before.

[vale vapor]

usually the snare fundamental is 200 yes

im using a lower tuned snare in this demo

i just cut 180 cause it sounded a little boomy on this guitar tone

[fringe geode]

Ahhh I see.

Usually since Im using NDSP I don't need to use an external drive and IR loader which I know act differently depending on how they're modeled and or coded.

[vale vapor]

i used to use neural dsp amps but i found better results from free ones, ironically

[fringe geode]

Yeah usually them super cheap or freebie ones tend to just focus in on the amp which means the tones be more ch0nky.

Kinda like Vtar stuff.

[vale vapor]

Yeah ive been using LePou amps with varying cabs

[fringe geode]

VTar be like "tf's a cab sim? I model AMPS"

[vale vapor]

or NAM, LOL

[fringe geode]

RIGHT?!

[vale vapor]

nam is fun but i don't like the aggressive tones ngl

it works better with clean tones

[fringe geode]

Big oof, I haven't fiddled around with NAM to really have an opinion.

[vale vapor]

fair

it sounds good with like single coil type tones

[fringe geode]

But I will say with NDSP, for some reason their tones are very aggressive but also soft at the same time? Like some of them just don't pop as much.

Idk if anyone else has noticed that.

[vale vapor]

oh i agree

theyre really like

digital sounding

[fringe geode]

I wouldn't say digital sounding, but...hi-fi in the wrong way.

[vale vapor]

yes

[fringe geode]

But that's some of them. Others are like perfection like Nameless is pure perfection.

[vale vapor]

my brother (he makes thall and deathcore stuff) loves nameless lol

[fringe geode]

Did he see Buster made a Thall amp plugin?

[vale vapor]

yep he loves it

im not a fan lol

ill stick to my free amps from 2008

[fringe geode]

XD

I've recently dipped into ML Sound Lab's updated amp sims and they're SAUCE.

[vale vapor]

ah never tried em

here's another mix i did with entirely free amp sims and IRs

[fringe geode]

Mikko Logren the guy that runs ML Sound Lab started by making IRs for Fractal way back when and did the inital IRs for Neural from Darkglass all the way up to Plini.

[vale vapor]

that's sickkk

[fringe geode]

Yeah, he made his own company afterwords and started doing his own thing. Highly suggest you check em out. The amp sims are as expensive as Neural and they're pretty good. The earlier ones are a bit eh but the later ones are great. Same with his IRs too.

[fringe geode]

I remember when you posted this. This shit is gas.

[vale vapor]

Oh yeah you were there werent you

[fringe geode]

Yeee

[vale vapor]

honestly ive made it a goal for me to move as much of my entire workflow to free plugins as possible, just to prove that you can have a pro sound without having to spend $$$

so far i've gotten pretty darn far with guitar tone

i do use a ton of paid plugins though

saturn 2 is one i haven't found a single good free replacement for

none of them can do what it does

[fringe geode]

Damn right you have. I mix using nothing but free plugins. I'll pay for a good source tone like EZD or Neural, but not mixing stuff. All of it is freeware.

[vale vapor]

so based

reaper user?

[fringe geode]

Yessiiir.

[vale vapor]

so based

me too

[fringe geode]

Lol I haven't updated it in like 5 years tho XD

[vale vapor]

LOL

you should, theres so many new features

[fringe geode]

Nani the fuck am I looking at.

[vale vapor]

this is mostly my theme but yeah

[vale vapor]

LMAO

[fringe geode]

Gonna be real. When I look at mixes like this, or from someone like JST, I get anxiety. I'm like "HOW DO I MAKE THIS SIMPLE FOR MONKEY."

[vale vapor]

most of the complicated stuff is a ton of folders

that's about it

like it looks crazy but it's just organizing tracks by placing them into groups

aka busses

[fringe geode]

Yeah. If a mix of mine contains 10 tracks or less that's a good day XD

[vale vapor]

oh gosh lmao

most of my mixes contain 60-120

anywhere in that range

[fringe geode]

JESUS CHRIST

[vale vapor]

LOL

my drums take up like 6-10 tracks alone depending on the kit im using

then anywhere from 2-8 for guitar

1 for bass

0-10 for synth

0 to infinity for fx and loops

LOL

then sometimes even 10+ for orchestra if i want to add that

[fringe geode]

I know people go crazy with reinforments (which I sometimes do), sidechaining, and stuff, but I abide by the Josh Middleton method. Keep it as simple as possible and only add if required.

[vale vapor]

Ok sidechaining is simple

i sidechain like

tons of things

My cymbals and rooms are ALWAYS sidechained a little to the kick and snare no matter what

you can achieve the same effect with drum bus compression

but i like to sidechain it

and i sidechain my bass to my kick (around 3-4db) 90% of the time

that's usually it though

[fringe geode]

I gotta good at sidechaining.

[vale vapor]

its very simple in reaper

super easy

[fringe geode]

But then my brain is like "but if you just balance it right you won't have to"

[vale vapor]

• drag i/o (send button) to track you wanna sidechain
• set it to Audio 1/2 ➡️ 3/4
• put reacomp onto the recieving channel, and set mode to "Auxilliary Input"
• Set the threshhold and boom

golden

[vale vapor]

not always true!

i sidechain to get a specific sound

I love the sound of cymbals when they are being "pumped" by the drums

it sounds good to me

same with the bass to the kick

most older records don't have this song, but some do because of bus compression

it depends on the flavor you want

[fringe geode]

Saving that to my list of notes.

[vale vapor]

i assume you multi route your drums

[fringe geode]

Yeah

[vale vapor]

ok good

cant sidechain if you dont LOL

[fringe geode]

I used to not to back when I used GGD cuz Kontakt hates everyone XD

[vale vapor]

real i hate kontakt

i sadly do have to route kontakt though

it was... painful setting that up

but once you set it up once you're usually good

[fringe geode]

Lol woe is me is correct XD

[vale vapor]

LOL

[dapper charm]

Leviathan — David Munich (Official Music Video)
https://youtu.be/s3yg37jc49w

[blissful cliff]

Ayooo more reaper guys?

I also didn't know how to set up sidechains in reaper (I've been too lazy to learn) so reading all that was super helpful XD

[vale vapor]

loll

[balmy forum]

feedback? i dont know what i did here

ignore the name i was tired

[hollow tulip]

pretty nice

liking the lead guitar arp around 0:57

imo the rhythm guitar's volume should be higher so the instruments' volumes can be roughly equal

that's all for the feedback for the time being, when i come back there might be more input

[hollow tulip]

update

[prisma forum]

https://streamable.com/o8vjdk

my own personal writing, would mean a lot if you all could give it a listen :)

[livid frigate]

Sounds cool, I wonder if adding a delay pedal could make it even cooler because then the notes could be playing while you're playing the next notes

I wouldn't know what settings to set it at or if it'd sound bad but it could sound cool.

[balmy forum]

hey operated thornhills video live when they played with adtr and ocean grove

[balmy forum]

sounds reallyy good

[blissful cliff]

trying something in the style of Demon Hunter

feedback would be great

[prisma forum]

Oh fr? Thats fucking sick man! How was the experience? Ive only seen them live once and they walked passed me cuz i was too scared to say something cuz my girlfriend at the time was having problems with me and hid in the bathroom lol 😬

[prisma forum]

Thank you!!

[prisma forum]

https://streamable.com/g2qkrj i added some extra stuff to it

[balmy forum]

ooof, yeah it was great! i diddnt get to meet them to much but it was fun to operate for them

[prisma forum]

i bet! What songs did they play, do you remember?

[balmy forum]

i dont quite remember but it wwas cool

cool song i wrotee

ignore the name btw

[balmy forum]

this is cool maybe if you put the part around 18sec on a dist channel you could get a really cool old spiritbox type riff

[prisma forum]

that would be cool!

[blissful cliff]

time to write lyrics

[finite coral]

is this what we consider cooking

[finite coral]

i love this track so much i cant wait to share it when we finish it :)

[fathom jewel]

hardcore crabcore @fringe geode @vale vapor

still gotta fix that plastic tub kick 💀

[runic adder]

Carb

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-crab-knife-mg-excelsus-gif-26926901

[balmy forum]

mr carbs

with a knife

[balmy forum]

very miw

[balmy forum]

what are those synth chords at the start?

[fathom jewel]

A/D, E/B, Gflatm7/Dflat, Eadd9/B

according to ezkeys

[finite coral]

Motionless?

I guess it makes sense, I do listen to them sometimes

[humble condor]

Rate my guitar tone (80s swedish deathmetal edition)

(drop d)

Using this combination

Sounds better in rl

[fringe geode]

Dope as fuck. The drums need more smack but otherwise dope.

[fathom jewel]

yeah, im gonna have redo the mix after I finish writing this 😭

[vale vapor]

i give mixing lessons 😳

[blissful cliff]

can I get some thoughts on this

[balmy forum]

god, ow

new song idea

[cerulean storm]

Something I made this evening

[fringe geode]

Bro idk what the fuck this is but this shit slaps.

It's like Celldweller meets Zardonic meets Voicians.

[fringe geode]

For a second the opening sounded really close to an Alter Bridge song.

[fringe geode]

WIth some more mixing this shit would be slammin bro. BTW, that bass tone tho.

[fringe geode]

I dare you to take on some Utsu-P

[fringe geode]

90s alt rock vibes ❤️

[fringe geode]

This sounds similar to something....in a good way cuz it slaps. But I can't quite put my finger on it.

[fringe geode]

With some slammin drums and bass this shit would be GAS.

[fringe geode]

This is fun. I could dance to this

[fringe geode]

Brutal af my guy.

[fringe geode]

This shit is GAS. It was like a mix of a few things, the clean parts def give me Pantera vibes and there's some symphonic in there along with the black metal.

[fringe geode]

Unmixed? UNMIXED?! Now, I'm scared what happens when you do mix it.

[fringe geode]

I'd get the drums up to snuff first. Then guitar, then bass, then vocals. If you need help mixing, check out JSTs videos, they're great guides.

[hollow tulip]

im gonna have to do a lot to reach the same heights

[fringe geode]

Fuck me this shit is awesome.

[runic adder]

a ping

wah

[runic adder]

glad you enjoy it lmao

[fringe geode]

^_^

[fringe geode]

You got this brother.

[hollow tulip]

Amen

but i ran out of brain juice at the moment 😭

[fringe geode]

RIPP

[hollow tulip]

only thing i can do is rehash some old projects i have

:(

[fringe geode]

Sometimes that's not a bad thing. Sometimes it's fun to return to old projects to see what you learned.

[finite coral]

Working on a song with oomf 😁

It's always fun to work with someone

[cerulean storm]

Thank you! Yeah, I like to keep my music varying. 🙂

[blissful cliff]

Thanks! here's the latest version if you wanna see the progress

[fringe geode]

Eyyyy it's getting better!

Found this old project from about a year ago. It's when I first got my mitts on EZD3.

Had no idea how to mix it and Soldano X had just come out.

So it was a test drive of both.

I still don't know what I'm doing quite honestly. I just do things. I let the riffs take the wheel (even tho they ain't good lol).

[versed remnant]

lowk haven't posted anything in here in a while but i've been working on my mixes and want some feedback on this

[vale vapor]

mix is overall super dark give your cymbals some more high end

sounds like the snare is causing the whole mix to pump super hard

if youre smashing it into a limiter or clipper, back off quite a bit

kick also lacks a lot of lowend

the actual tone of the snare is pretty good tho

guitars sound pretty good too

wrote this just for funsies

[versed remnant]

the snare?

[vale vapor]

the whole mix

[versed remnant]

oh its going through a compressor

[vale vapor]

oh gosh

definitely back that way off

[versed remnant]

tbh i have no idea how to use a compressor properly

so

[vale vapor]

ok yeah you should look into that

compressing the whole mix is something you wanna do very subtly

[versed remnant]

i have it -25 with +30 compensation

[vale vapor]

what the LOL

if im compressing my entire mix its gonna be at -2 to -4db at most

with a very long attack and quick release

-25db of compression on your master bus is just all out of whack

i would watch videos on how compressors work and how to utilize them, Fabfilter has a great playlist for that

[versed remnant]

okayokay thank you

[versed remnant]

what does this mean

here are my comp settings too since i don't use how to use the big boy comp

[vale vapor]

i dont think fairly childish is literal in this case 😂

just use reacomp!