Feedback Requests

[inner sedge]

wait

mirar?

[strong bluff]

do you know them?

[inner sedge]

yes

that's why i'm confused lmao

[strong bluff]

lots of your work reminds me of their shit not the overall sound but the structure

esp their newest stuff

[brave otter]

i added more compression to the vocals and turned up the reverb duration, did it get the intended effect?

[strong bluff]

sounds like if mirar made music like 10 years ago type shit and was more death focust

[inner sedge]

hm

the structure

i can see that

[strong bluff]

that gain would do wonders imo but i fuck with it a lot more

[strong bluff]

the wild build yk

a symmetry all the way

i fw it

[inner sedge]

oh i just don't have any concept of song structure 😅

[strong bluff]

its good tho i love it

[brave otter]

wdym by gain? i only have reacomp and a headcrusher for vocal vst's so im not sure what to do lol

[inner sedge]

well maybe one day i will show you a full song by my band

and you will show me the same

[strong bluff]

not sure man just some fuzz to it would help if you have any way to achieve that

[strong bluff]

same here lmfao we taking forever

we do have one almost finished one if you guys want to hear that

[inner sedge]

i wanna hear fully finished

im excited tho

y'all are kinda tuff sounding icl

[strong bluff]

tyty

[spare sundial]

Started working on this 2 days ago, let me know what you guys think

[brave otter]

sounds cool. It might be interesting to try going a little crazier with the trap highhats and adding some realy fast triplity fills

unrelated does this riff make sense?

[spare sundial]

It could def

With some harmonies and changing the root note of the riff at some points

[spare sundial]

Oooo that's cool

Changed quite a bit now, from now I'm probably gonna work on more of a structure

[brave otter]

synth at the breakdown sounds cool

[acoustic niche]

I wrote a drum groove for my first song to be used as a build up to the breakdown. Any suggestions on this?

Production aside

[acoustic niche]

Pantera Fan?

[tribal orbit]

uh

that seems very snare centric

[acoustic niche]

Yeah

[acoustic niche]

Do you think it’s too crowded?

[tribal orbit]

ye, probably

[acoustic niche]

How bout this

[tribal orbit]

still a ,ot of snare, maybe add toms?

[acoustic niche]

Sure

[tribal orbit]

Yeah I think maybe use toms or cymbols of some sort as to get rid of the overreliance on teh snare

[acoustic niche]

Better?

[tribal orbit]

better, now just focus on making it sound playable by a human

[acoustic niche]

Naw bro the robot apocalypse is coming soon, I won’t need it

[tribal orbit]

lmao

[acoustic niche]

That’s crazy creative

[brave otter]

yeah pantera is my favorite band

[kind blaze]

unfinished track idea thing , looking for any feedback at all im still new to producing metal and such 🙂

[brave otter]

it sounds good, i might add more reverb onto the first synth to make it have less attack

[real harness]

I was writing and mixing this demo this entire day since I came back from school. I just want to get any writing/mixing suggestions, because I've been listening to this for hours now and I might be missing some obvious mistakes. I would really appreciate any opinion on this

[acoustic niche]

I can definitely hear the dimebag influence in that riff

[versed remnant]

Need feedback on this Link Park Style song (pre vocals, need to find someone to do them cuz my vocal style isn't linkn parky)

[tribal orbit]

mix is still super guitar centric, cant hear drums :(

[versed remnant]

Noted

[tribal orbit]

once the 808 styled drums come in, it's very bassy

[versed remnant]

Remixing it right now

[fathom jewel]

black metal guitar tone for linkin park is just 🤌

[twilit field]

hey i wanted to know if my single cover looks good and if i should do anything to make it look better

[versed remnant]

THANK YOU

[tired delta]

Any mixing tips and tricks? My current mix sounds like this ⬇️

the song is mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUCs-cGqPu0

[versed remnant]

Chat what do we think so far

[acoustic niche]

Production aside I see potential of a cool track

the first riff is cool but maybe add little variations of the riff just to keep it more interesting.

The final part with the pinch harmonics sounds a bit off time? I also think that there could be a consistent rhythm with the pinch harmonics which would make it more digestible and hit harder

[versed remnant]

Yeah I wanna figure out how to spice up the riffs, same with the harmonics cuz the breakdown is all out of time and is just really shitty I need to work on it some more

I’m still really new to proper production so idrk what I’m doing

[acoustic niche]

What do you use to produce?

[acoustic niche]

Holy shit that’s awesome

Are you on Spotify!

[fringe geode]

I was trying out Fortin Nameless X and this is what came out.

[desert tartan]

I can try all im saying is that I sound more like the high pitched emo post hardcore singers

[versed remnant]

Add me anyways I cN’t do high pitch emo vocals no matter how hard I try which sucks cuz I got so many ideas for those types of songs

[versed remnant]

Bandlab

I don’t have any software so

[desert tartan]

That’s just my normal vocal style so I got you

I can try for ya in a bit so I’ll add you

By a bit I mean Sunday maybe

[fringe geode]

Do you have an interface?

[desert tartan]

I think they mean bandlab is also the interface to I believe

Idk tho😭

[fringe geode]

Possibly.

[fathom jewel]

feedback on the overall vibe/mix would be appreciated
https://on.soundcloud.com/wbkAMTeawKLVTEde9

[fathom jewel]

this got a very dark fortin nameless tone

maybe play around with the presence knob and increase the treble on the amp

[fringe geode]

It was a lot brighter early on, but I lowered the treble because it was too bright to might ears. My ears are sensitive to high frequencies. Even my fucked up right ear is lol.

[fathom jewel]

oof 😬 were you listening in headphones/in ear monitors?

[fringe geode]

Yeah headphones

[tired delta]

Thanks!

[tired delta]

No, I'm not. I once was but since nobody listens, I deleted my account 😄

[tired delta]

What do you think about the mix? When I listen to my music on PC, it sounds awesome but whenever I switch to my phone, the songs get too much low end.

[fathom jewel]

phones speakers aren't designed to handle metal music, but after listening to your track I can kinda understand how the low end is too much, even tho the frequency response on my headphones slightly boosts the bass

[tired delta]

Well I listen to the music using earphones (on the phone). Maybe that's why it sounds like that? The earphones have too much Low End?

[fathom jewel]

that depends on the frequency response curve of your earphones

and your ear's perception of low end

[tired delta]

Probably yeah. Thanks for the info!

[acoustic niche]

Do you have an apple product

?

[acoustic niche]

I listened on headphones and It sounded good

[acoustic niche]

Any tips of how I could spice up this riff

[acoustic niche]

Do a different vocal style, make the song your own not just a rip off of another band

You can take influence but don’t copy it is my advice

[desert tartan]

Get some chromatics in there for some dissonance

Maybe throw some power chords in their

[acoustic niche]

Sure

Chromatics?

[desert tartan]

Like notes out of scale

That make sense?

[acoustic niche]

Why did you make it plural?

Whatever

[desert tartan]

Oh like

[acoustic niche]

I gotcha

[desert tartan]

It seems like you have a few variations to that riff

So like chromatics kinda made sense to me😭

[acoustic niche]

It’s just 1 semitone down and back up, that’s the only change in the riff

[desert tartan]

Oh

I’m dumb💀

[acoustic niche]

All good

[desert tartan]

Gl

[versed remnant]

Nope

[tired delta]

The 2nd guitar can start playing a harmonic after the 2nd half of the riff starts maybe?

[fringe geode]

@hoary heart

[hoary heart]

What you want me to do?

I can listen once I'm home just curious

[fringe geode]

Oh you were asking if Nameless X was good. So I made this as a test run :3

[hoary heart]

Ah... cool

[brave otter]

iv been working on some guitar riffs, do any sound particularly bad or good?

what r some things i should do more or less or something i should improve on?

[hoary heart]

The last three our my personal favorites they seem to be going in a specific direction and have some more musical elements. Non of them sound bad all could be used and built into a song.

I'd try to stay with the more musical riffs rather then pure chugging but that's just personal taste.
Keep writing and practicing

[brave otter]

ty, il def try to keep doing more melodic ones cus those are also my favorite

[hoary heart]

Great, the muted tremolo one was really nice, having it with another guitar up 3rd or a 6th could sound really cool.

[brave otter]

il def try that out, that would sound sick with the palm muting

[hoary heart]

I think it would sound cool, playing with harmonies is always very fun. Brings a lot of life to what's being played

[grizzled hornet]

What is an air sample?

https://youtu.be/RcaRoJ5G2UU?si=aNzGRqsa_FOPpv7U

[tribal orbit]

Like the wind whooshing sound

[tired delta]

2nd riff souns THICC, luv it. 3rd one sounds really nice too. I like the 4rd one too.

great job

what do yall think about this one? i'm going to re record it and mix it, then share on spotify this summer.

[tired delta]

this is a 2 year old mix so it might sound like crap but still 🤷‍♂️ 😄

[kind blaze]

More gain

[brave otter]

mix sounds great, way better than anything i could do. do you plan on puting vocals on this song?

[tired delta]

I can't sing so can't do it on my own 🤷‍♂️

In this summer, I will practice by covering some the black dahlia murder songs, we'll see

[brave otter]

if u cover what a horrible night to have a curse, i could send u a raw wave file for the solo 🙃

[tired delta]

FR? SHIT I was learning the rhythm part of the song actually 😄 I'll continue learning when I go back home from University this summer then

[brave otter]

i gotta relearn it so it might take a minute, j dm me when u need me to record it ig

[tired delta]

Sure, I don't have my guitar with me in the city I study tho. I'll be back home in 1-2 months sadly

[brave otter]

i go out of town in a month and im on summer break from college rn so i can j send it at some point and u can use it whenever

[tired delta]

Sure, thanks!

[brave otter]

np!

[fringe geode]

Live and Learn is a BITCH of a song to learn.

It's even trickier than Knight of the Wind.

HOLY FUCK

It's hard

[hollow tulip]

revisited this project to do a few small updates and general polishing
on retrospect the guitar sounds a bit weaker and buried under the bass in this mix than the previous one (for me)

[tribal orbit]

super early demo. I just recorded the guitars

its a super simple track, but oh well

[tribal orbit]

also rerecorded screams for this track. The mix is wonky atm just cuz I havent really sat down to get everything set straight

[thick bay]

https://open.spotify.com/album/1Ou9YkiQXKS64jkC6fpgbQ?si=KPhxXM1sR-KQsKehNOtmUw

first bands new single in 4 years

[tired delta]

What you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmi5EZ-kzeI

[tired delta]

Very nice, good work! Added to my playlist.

[thick bay]

thank you bro❤️

[hollow tulip]

some mix changes
reduced the bass because it made the mix a bit too muddy imo but in retrospect i think i mixed it too low
made the drums have this sort of "raw" feeling (kinda closer to the drums in the self titled Slipknot album)
wyt, is the bass too low?

[tired delta]

this one needs a little bit low end tbf

the music is nice

2:28, i lost my face thanks

XD

[hollow tulip]

I'll mix the bass guitar a bit louder in the future so it doesn't sound like And Justice For All 2.0

[hollow tulip]

you can thank the original composer of the song this remix is based on :D (and slipknot for the influence)

[fathom jewel]

guitars reprocessed with new stl tonehub capture, thoughts?

[hollow tulip]

Nice

My only feedback is that the vocals sound a bit to dry but I can't pinpoint what it is

[tired delta]

can this instrumental part make an intro for symphonic deathcore or is it too romantic or sth idk 😄

[versed remnant]

what do we think chat

[potent quarry]

i dont know but theres always something off about my eq'ing

[versed remnant]

I still want to add an intro fill but what do we think of it so far

[versed remnant]

what do we think everyone

[tired delta]

sounds like early slipknot to me idk. it has potential but gotta fix the audio quality and mix, i'm sure it'll turn out to be a gem

[versed remnant]

Honestly kinda like this one a lot, haven't done vocals yet but I recorded an intro scream so yeah

[versed remnant]

Finally almost done with the album, two more songs then I need to go through and mix everything more but It's so close

[tribal orbit]

Rerecorded guitar. Slightly changed lead riff idk

gib thot pls

[kind blaze]

nice , im still new to metal production but i feel like the lead could be a bit wider

[kind blaze]

nice track tho i like it

any feedback is nice (unmixed)

[tribal orbit]

yeah, thats fair. I did crunch it a little to the center in the mix

ty tho

[tribal orbit]

did some changes @kind blaze idk if that makes it better

[tribal orbit]

I made even more changes

[fringe geode]

I made this song using Soldano SLO-100 X

All IRs are the built in ones.

[spare sundial]

Just a little something

[versed remnant]

Is anyone here good at punk vocals willing to do vocals for this song? My voice does not do it

[desert tartan]

I can definitely do some vocals

Question is do you want high pitched vocals

Well better way to put it is are ya fine with whiny sounding post hardcore type of vocals

[versed remnant]

I am sort of? Can u send me some vocal samples?

[desert tartan]

I got you

I’ll just send clips of me singing some pierce the veil and sleeping with siren songs

I’ll just send raw takes

[desert tartan]

Here’s like raw vocal takes I took like a minutes ago

Idk if my voice is the voice your looking for exactly but who knows

[versed remnant]

Not really but I do wanna do a ptv style song for the last song of the album if you wanna do vocals for that

[desert tartan]

I can definitely do vocals for that

Oh fuck I fucking sent a clip that I didn’t wanna sing💀

But yea I can definitely do that song

[versed remnant]

BET

[atomic ledge]

Got bored and made a phonk/metal 40k type thing

[fathom jewel]

black metal guitar tone for punk music??! this is innovation
how do you record guitars?

[kind blaze]

Is there any vocalists here who would like to lay down a few screams over this let the world burn remake im doing ( it is currently just a first demo very under produced and everything ) Thank you 🙂

[versed remnant]

I uh

use my vocal

mic

to record

amp audio

cuz

I'm poor

[tribal orbit]

that is groovy as fuck

[scarlet brook]

made this using stock garageband plugins (minus my amp and cab, those being Ignite Amps Emissary and NadIR)

had some fun with the bass drops

[versed remnant]

dude the current song file I'm doing is 31.7 mb

I haven't done synths

vocals

bass

I have a base audio track

with guitars

and drums

and thats it

wtf

[versed remnant]

also what genre would that be classified as? I wanna say like post hardcore/metalcore but idk

[desert tartan]

I wouldn’t say post hardcore since theirs not dissonance at all so it’s probably metalcore since it just has that kind of energy

[versed remnant]

fairfair

[versed remnant]

How the hell do I do vocals for this

[versed remnant]

chat what do we think

[tribal orbit]

composition wise, it's sick, I do like

you're getting better at mixing

I updated stuff, rerecorded guitars, changed tones, etx

[versed remnant]

Thank youuu

Hold on

I have an updated version

I got a friend to do some clean vocals

@tribal orbit

[tribal orbit]

I will listen tmr, I gotta sleep

[versed remnant]

okok

good night bro

[runic adder]

Been listening to Humanity's Last Breath lately

[fathom jewel]

what is your snare verb of choice?

[runic adder]

Not using a snare verb

[fathom jewel]

don't tell me its room sound

no way

[runic adder]

Though I used to use either abbey road or pro r

Yep

It’s the room

More like, I compressed it a certain way and bumped the level

[fathom jewel]

ok nice, I'm used to muting rooms for some reason so my drum mix doesnt get too muddy

any thoughts on the mix on this one ⬆️

[runic adder]

Sounds pretty tight

And with rooms, you just have to look for the frequencies that make them sound muddy

I don’t have reverb on anything in that mix

[fringe geode]

@fathom jewel Wot u think boi?

[runic adder]

I'm not dusty but I think that's pretty sick

I've always like the sound of a soldano, my brother used to have one

dope song

[runic adder]

if nobody's reached out to ya yet I'd be down

[fringe geode]

Thanks! And wait like a real SLO-100?! An original or Mk2?

[runic adder]

don't remember if it was an original or mk2 but it was a SLO-100

[fringe geode]

You can tell the difference whether it had the depth mod or not. The original did not (although some artists had it custom installed), while the Mk 2 came with it stock.

[runic adder]

huh, good to know

still don't remember 💀

[fringe geode]

Lol RIP

[runic adder]

yeah

was a sick amp though

[fringe geode]

I only played the 30 which I'm aware is very gimped compared to the 100

[tribal orbit]

gave listen. Good for a proof of concept. It'll be a ton better when you get proper software and equipment

also I recorded vocals. Drums are still temp until we finish writing them

[versed remnant]

What are some good free DAWs I can use that are simple to learn? I tried cakewalk but its kinda sucky tbh. Any other good alternatives?

[fathom jewel]

reaper is nice

[kind blaze]

That would be sick if you could man , the track is getting closer to being finished if you are down i could send what i have over ? 🙂

[runic adder]

Go for it

[tired delta]

this is a very old song of mine. i will re record it and give it a nice mix. what do you guys think?

[ruby sparrow]

feedback? other than the shitty snare

[main vigil]

Tell me what you all think of this track.

https://youtu.be/GNiGnTJ0pHM

[tribal orbit]

It’s very loud

But I think it’s cool

[ruby sparrow]

yeah, gonna fix that eventually

[tribal orbit]

Just put a limiter on the master track

[ruby sparrow]

it’ll ruin all the transients

it already has a multi band clipper, and tape saturation on it

i just need to turn it down before those

[tribal orbit]

Not if you have the limiter set properly

Place it before your clipper and after your saturated

Saturation*

[ruby sparrow]

main problem is, all of it is being slammed into the clipper, i’ll turn it down and maybe use the limiter

[tribal orbit]

The clipper should have an input dial, no?

I guess it does depend on the daw you use. Does your daw have a master track built into the project file?

[tribal orbit]

Me when demos on a plane ride

[tribal orbit]

OH SHIT

I just realized uraniums bass just is not present

lmao

I was on a planeride, so I couldnt tell

[brave otter]

am i ripping off opeth too hard with this? i wasn't trying to copy them but some parts just sound kind of opethy

[spare sundial]

Getting ethereal with this one

[swift slate]

it's been a while since i cooked something

[tribal orbit]

I'll listen after class to all of these

[meager musk]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5znJ71ScXnISZCg40kUUAW?si=60d49352041f4001

[pure fractal]

thoughts on the mix?

[tribal orbit]

I like it a lot. Idk opeth so I can’t comment on that. I think my only like criticism is that you need to dual track the fuzz/overdriven guitars

[tribal orbit]

The guitars are a little overpowering, and the bass is too percussive, so lower the treble via EQ

But the composition is really good

[tribal orbit]

A little too bassy. The bass is way too loud and booming imo. It distracts me from the awesome guitar work

[tribal orbit]

You have the opposite issue, the bass is kind of lacking, and the guitar has a little too much treble for my liking. Drums feel a little weak too. But the composition is rad

[swift slate]

i mean it's not mixed at all lol

[tribal orbit]

Fair. I was giving feedback where I could

I don’t think you have to change much from what you have, as the guitar is nice, good riffs

[tribal orbit]

Weeee

[tribal orbit]

Guys, i eitehr cooked or I, myself, am cooked

I have been listening to this song for the past liek 3 hours, it's driving me insane

[fathom jewel]

happens to the best of us, the guitar tone is full of life and very high gain tho

[tribal orbit]

I’ll give it a listen and give feedback after volleyball

[tribal orbit]

What about the rest of the mix?

(If you don’t mind me asking?)

[fringe geode]

This is my first time using EZ Drummer 3. THis is just the trial but damn Im impressed.

[tribal orbit]

I like EZD is a great vst

[gleaming haven]

Fellas is this bad or just weird

[fathom jewel]

this is literally a potential knocked loose riff on acoustic guitar

super dissonant and creepy, love it

until the abrupt pauses I couldn't tell it was midi guitar, which one was it?

[gleaming haven]

Yeah I wrote it in guitar pro cause I ain’t that good yet :(

I appreciate it though man I’m glad you like it

[fringe geode]

Thanks! I processed the drums and they sound a hell of a lot better than the EZD2 drums (at least the default library) when processed.

[fringe geode]

What you think @fathom jewel?

I personally like it a lot better than my GGD ones I've been using for the past....I'd say 3 or 4 years now.

I personally would like to try one of the Mixwave kits but they are PRICY.

Though I know they're doing a sale atm.

[fathom jewel]

the ezd 3 kits are very well sampled, they are far more value for money if you want natural sounding drums

the best mixwave products I think are mario duplantier, and underoath aaron gillespie just for the shells which are great for sample replacement, not a fan of their cymbals as they can get very machine gunny sounding

[fathom jewel]

the drum beats are a little repetitive imo, its hard to differentiate between the energy of the verse and chorus, other than that I only have a few nitpicks:
Since the guitars sound so large and roomy the reverb is causing the high frequencies to clash with the vocals and cymbals, in the snare I hear more of the snare bottom mic snare wire sizzle than the snare top mic which would have more attack and presence

[tribal orbit]

Okay, cool, thank you dusty. The drums are def a WIP. My bandmate who rights and records/programs (I think we use triggers?) hasn’t had the time to finish and polish them. They are placeholders for the most part, but good to know about the repetitiveness

And I’ll kill the high end reverb tn after classes

Ty

I’m also thinking about how to change the chorus so it feels more energetic. Maybe add some synth or something?

[tribal orbit]

Do you think a switch up during the prechors/2nd half of verse in the drums would help with that?

[mighty terrace]

The playing can be tidied up but I mean not bad for only 3 years in.

my arm gets tired af easily tho any advice for that

i did with no metronome so there’s ofc inaccuracies too

[runic adder]

honestly sometimes you gotta play through the burn

for one of my band's songs, every time I tried to practice it my arm would burn like crazy

[runic adder]

sounding pretty good though, just make sure to be consistent and you'll get better

[tribal orbit]

@fathom jewel I adjusted the reverb, also tried to write a new drum for the prechorus. Lmk if it sounds at all good to you. It's subject to change once Sumeir gets his hands on it

[fringe geode]

I think I prefer the way the Aaron Gillespie kit sounds (even though the Mario Duplantier kit sounds MASSIVE) because of that snare. I'm a sucker for good snares.

And I think that's why my favorite kit from GGD is the Aggressive Rock kit.

[hollow tulip]

remaking this remake of a remix of a certain Scarlet Devil's theme (because i'm out of ideas and some things need a new coat of paint)
mix is somewhat rough, might make some improvements sooner
wyt

[silver bay]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7Hu525yq0N/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

intensifiedgenocide

@enterpriseearth Overpass

#deathcore #metal #vocalcover #screaming #enterpriseearthband

Instagram

[versed remnant]

chat what do we think

@tribal orbit am I good at music yet

[tribal orbit]

I give listen in bit

[versed remnant]

okok

[hollow tulip]

fixed the cut outro

wyt of the harpsichord intro (it's my first time adding some psuedo-baroque left hand stuff to a melody)

[gleaming haven]

Is the intro ass or nah

[gleaming haven]

Also this is fire even though I'm not usually into that type of metal

[tribal orbit]

I mean, its a lot better in regards to how you mixed the drums and the bass

So you're getting there

[tribal orbit]

Goddamn, thats nice

[tribal orbit]

Whatever that first chord is in the intro: it sound like a fart

[versed remnant]

tytyyy

[thin dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SM6uA4KU4

[versed remnant]

Chat how do we like the promo card

I’m too broke to afford the exepensive distrokid subs where I can set the date so idk what day its releasing

[gleaming haven]

Dang I've never gotten that one before😭

[spare sundial]

Last part needs some work but it's pretty solid rn

[desert tartan]

I’d definitely be interested

[versed remnant]

in a good or bad way

[desert tartan]

I’m a good way ofc

For being a independent artist it’s definitely a good place to start

It’s eye catching

[versed remnant]

thank you thank you

I was worried it was too monotone

I purposely did all the background black and white and stuff so the album cover would stand out

cuz its bright and everything

I already have plans for a remastered version of the album when I can afford good recording equiptment

So in the future all teh guitar will be rerecorded

All of these are going to be uploaded around the same time I think cuz I put them all on distro today

so thats gonna be fun

here's the top one on there I never posted it in here I actually did clean vocals all the way through and I usually suck at singing but for whatever reason this isn't horrible

[desert tartan]

Is there a song you need help with btw vocal wise

[versed remnant]

I don't have any projects I'm working on rn anymore so not rn

[desert tartan]

Oh got you

[versed remnant]

I actually did this whole song in like 5 hours and the first three were trying to figure out what kind of song I wanted it to be

I honestly don't even know what genre this is tbh

[tribal orbit]

We added stringgggssss and hornsss

[versed remnant]

idk what to call it

[desert tartan]

I mean

It sounds like a acoustic track

So

[versed remnant]

was crying while singing the last verse tbh

[desert tartan]

I’d say ballad maybe?

Idk

Something

[versed remnant]

I guess of sorts

[versed remnant]

also sounds dope bro

I always know when its broon that reacts cuz of the little guy in most of his emoji speak

chat I might make a ska song

[desert tartan]

Ska 😭

I mean ska is fun

Sometimes

[versed remnant]

is the spongebob theme song just ska with a flute instead of horns

and a slower bpm

like If I cranked the bpm

and did only upstrokes

[desert tartan]

SpongeBob created melodic ska

[versed remnant]

its basically ska

[versed remnant]

😭

chat what type of song should I start making rn

I wanna make more songs

[desert tartan]

Post hardcore for sure

I love me some dissonance’s

[versed remnant]

I could also do thrash tho for dissonance like dime had some of the best dissonance in his solos

[desert tartan]

I haven’t heard a thrash song in a while so that could be cool

[versed remnant]

idk if I wanna do thrash tho

not in a thrash mood

hmmm

maybe country /j don't ban me

[desert tartan]

Ban this guy

[versed remnant]

I want an excuse to write a song about alchohol women and trucks

[desert tartan]

So just make scenecore or smth?

[versed remnant]

true that

[desert tartan]

Or maybe very odd crunkcore

[versed remnant]

wait

waitwaitwait

oh chattt

I wanna make whatever the fuck 6arelyhuman makes

[desert tartan]

So scenecore

[versed remnant]

yeah

exactly

how do I do this

synths

808s

uh

weird vocals

wait

[desert tartan]

Max autotune

[versed remnant]

I wanna do what like 100 gecs does

laura les is cool asf

[desert tartan]

Hyper pop so scenecore but not for the scene kids of today

[versed remnant]

exactly

make it offensive as shit too

[desert tartan]

May wanna delete that after just saying💀

[versed remnant]

do NOT quote me on that

EVER

[desert tartan]

Im so quoting you on all that

[versed remnant]

NO

U have NO PROOF

[desert tartan]

I saw the messages

And ik the mods can maybe see what you said😭

[versed remnant]

I didn't

no

waity

I forgot

mods

mods

I was just joking

please

no ban

[desert tartan]

It’s fine

I think you’ll be safe

Maybe???

[versed remnant]

DUNDUUNDUN

did u listen to my epic beat I posted a while ago

[versed remnant]

^

[desert tartan]

I don’t think i have

I’ll check it out rn

[versed remnant]

okok

Whatd u think

[desert tartan]

Pretty good

[versed remnant]

Tyty

[brave otter]

what are y'all's thoughts on this outline for a song? it's not mixed or recorded properly and im gonna fix the drums, rn im just focusing on guitar and bass parts and song structure

[tribal orbit]

I gib listen now

Upon a cursory listen, it feels a little repetitive in parts

[spare sundial]

Somethin

[hollow aspen]

I like your vocals man, you got a pretty smooth but haunting voice, the falsetto at :38 is pretty, im not sure how i feel about the drums and bass only at :40 +, id add a chuggy riff personally or at least subtract on the kicks a bit. 1:20 + i fw heavy

[tribal orbit]

me when added strings

[tribal orbit]

I like it a lot. I feel like at 0:43, though, the switch could be a bit more energetic and airy. The first part of the song is very airy and has a lot of highend, and when you switch, you lose a lot of that and it kinda feels... empty?

[hollow aspen]

wish i could scream like that, still learning

sh is fire ngl, hard as fuck

could be in the old iphone game infinite sword (i think that was the name)

[tribal orbit]

It took me like 2-3 years to get the technique, and another just to figure out how to mix screams

[tribal orbit]

INFINITY BLADE

BASED AF GAME

[hollow aspen]

infinity blade*

yea

[hollow aspen]

im only abt 7 months into learning

[tribal orbit]

thats a grand compliment

[hollow aspen]

❤️

[tribal orbit]

I kinda just learned by screaming along to Parkway Drive, Of Mice and Men, and All That Remains

[hollow aspen]

first scream i ever recorded that i liked

weird edm metal demo idea

[tribal orbit]

And kinda just continued doing whatever didnt hurt

Thats a cool ida, reminds me of like Doom

[hollow aspen]

i was on ambien when i made it, so its just a weird demo idea

yea i fw making doom esque shit

[tribal orbit]

[hollow aspen]

this was doom inspired

also made on ambien lmao

i work at night...

all midi instruments (couldnt bring recording setup to rehab)

[tribal orbit]

Its a cool idea, if mixed better, you have an awesome track

[hollow aspen]

yea all i got is mbp speakers rn

[tribal orbit]

Ye, I remember you saying you were in rehab

quick question, thoughts on Thrashed?

[hollow aspen]

i got a studio i built in my house back home in dubai

let me listen thru thrashed again rq

[tribal orbit]

tyty, and damn, rich dubai boy over here.

Had a buddy whos family had a place there, shits insane

[hollow aspen]

that :30 little riff thing reminds me of dragonforce a smidge

[tribal orbit]

Ye, that was kinda the goal

[hollow aspen]

nah nah not rich at all, middle class kid who has spent entire life acquiring equipment

studied at abbey road and now berklee in january '25

[tribal orbit]

wait

berklee as in boston berklee?

[hollow aspen]

yuh

[tribal orbit]

I GO TO COLLEGE IN BOSTON

LMAO

[hollow aspen]

but doing the online course

so i wont b there in person :/

[tribal orbit]

damn, thats like ha;f the fun

[hollow aspen]

oh yeah lmao im 2:00 into thrashed def dragonforce dawg

but it fucks

weirdly enough it also reminds me of a metal pokemon theme, like if pikachu was a serial killer

[tribal orbit]

Yah, the breakdown is very pokemon esque

[hollow aspen]

should title it "Ash Dahmer"

[tribal orbit]

elite 4 sounding

[hollow aspen]

oh yea fs

but its sick, pokécore

new genre

[tribal orbit]

and the official title is Trashed, about how my gfs roommates left the dorm a mess and we had to clean it up, and I almost died

Pink mold

[hollow aspen]

bit of babymetal sound there too

[tribal orbit]

I;m deathly allergic

[hollow aspen]

PINK MOLD?

mold can be PINK

[tribal orbit]

YEP!

Its a bacterial based mold

and it's like super bad

[hollow aspen]

jesus fuck surely thats worse than asbestos prob

[tribal orbit]

Probbaly

when I say I almost died, I mean like I legit almost died from exposure. I was kicked out from the room and forced back to my place cuz her mom saw me white as a sheet and staring into space

I then passed out in my room on the carpet, so that was cool

[hollow aspen]

oh forget that shit im dipping asap

[tribal orbit]

Ye, so thats what the songs about lmao

[slow rampart]

some hudiksvall inspired dumb guy riffs

i’ve been lookin for vocalists for years if anyone is interested in working

i just joined the discord in hopes to meet some like minded creators

[versed remnant]

https://open.spotify.com/album/257dqbgY8eqBa6ZN4KxSRM Chat it happened

[spare sundial]

Ahhh gotcha

I have an idea for that now actually

[spare sundial]

Thank u! Yeah I'll probably add in a low passed riff in that background

[tribal orbit]

Glad to hear it

[tribal orbit]

@hollow aspen I did vox for Thrashed

[inner sedge]

these vocals remind me of like

early Enslaved

and similar Norwegian black metal acts

if i can post an example

https://youtu.be/98yJewJyaUg?si=aA9FpKcEC2RUX6yA

[tribal orbit]

Is that good or no?

[inner sedge]

you sound like this dude

[tribal orbit]

I can kinda hear it, yeah

[inner sedge]

just a statement really. your voice will get more refined with practice

but personally i really enjoy this sound

because i grew up with this kind of metal

[tribal orbit]

My other tracks have more refined vocals

I guess I just wanted to try something a bit different for this one, but I'll re record it

like @inner sedge this track, I feel, has better vocals

[inner sedge]

these guitars sound

strange

the vocals are definitely better here

very 2000s melodeath

specifically dark tranquility

[tribal orbit]

oh?

what do you mean?

[inner sedge]

like

digitized?

compressed?

i don't want to say they sound fake but like

[tribal orbit]

They arent

It's probably teh compression

[inner sedge]

they definitely have compression on them

and like a lot

especially that pinch harmonic in the main riff

[tribal orbit]

Its not a pinch

its just a regular harmonic on the 5th fret

[inner sedge]

still sounds off to me personally

[tribal orbit]

They don;t have a ton of compression either

[inner sedge]

but i do just prefer a more raw and aggressive tone

[tribal orbit]

I checked the chain

[inner sedge]

like it's all very tight sounding

and that's good

but after a certain point it loses the intensity of having a note played by an electric signal being literally distorted before getting shoved out a speaker

[tribal orbit]

I can probably check the chain to see if theres a compression pedal that shouldnt be on

[inner sedge]

nah i mean if the guitars sound how you want them

don't change it on account of me

[tribal orbit]

Mm fair enough

It's probably the attack on the compression pedal... Which I forgot was on. Im gonna mess with it

[hollow aspen]

heat fr

def one to vault for the next LP/EP

[hollow aspen]

https://on.soundcloud.com/53a7banLJ3KjnJQBA

weird phonk idea

bored

[tribal orbit]

Oui oui

[tribal orbit]

I’ll listen after I swim

[ruby sparrow]

love the atmosphere

[tribal orbit]

I like it, though the piano signal seems quiet dry

[merry seal]

first one i did together with my actual drummer (midi drums because his set isnt set up atm (we broke) but we programed the midi together) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uODKpEfl3qM

[fringe geode]

So, this is remix of a song I shared not too long ago.

Initally I did this using GGD drum libraries, but this time I used EZdrummer 3. I'm actually pretty happy with it other than the kick drum.

P.S: Toontrack's room tone sucks ass compared to GGD. Small nitpick.

Thoughts?

[tribal orbit]

Damn, thats a cool track. I will say, the cymbols are a little overwhelming but yeah!

Good song

[fringe geode]

Im still learning lol

[tribal orbit]

It's an easy EQ thing my friend

just kill some of the mids

[fringe geode]

Oh I did

[tribal orbit]

[fringe geode]

It's just the symbals they used

[tribal orbit]

perhaps the levels?

[fringe geode]

The symbals they used are Paiste symbals (as a former drummer I can attest to this). They are very shimmery and pristine. Great for softer styles of music.

[tribal orbit]

Odd, idk, I'm just thinking as to how I'd fix it

[fringe geode]

They're most dangerous quality is that they're a little too uhh...what's the word...high endy for lack of a better word.

I usually like darker symbals like Sabians.

Which ironically enough is what GGD Aggressive Rock has.

[tribal orbit]

Theyre too bright

[fringe geode]

Thanks you.

My brain is mush

lol

[tribal orbit]

Yeah, they're bright, loud, and have a lot of release

[fringe geode]

Paiste have a lot brightness to them. Since I'm using using GGD Aggressive Rock where the symbals fit really nice, I'm still learning my way around Paiste.

[tribal orbit]

I getcha, I getcha

[fringe geode]

I believe GGD Metal uses Paiste too and I have a similar problem with that too.

Darker trashier symbals get me goin. XD

[tribal orbit]

I getcha. I mean, you could technically get darker results with EQ on those cymbals

[fringe geode]

I could. Shelving them would help a little bit. Which I think I did. But then they aren't as in your face. A high pass could also work, but then you'd lose the character. So it's a tough choice.

I just shelved the shit out of them.

It worked.

[tribal orbit]

Nice!

[fringe geode]

Not as in your face but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Cuz damn they're still cutting through like crazy.

[tribal orbit]

Do you have any effects running on the drums?

[fringe geode]

Eh not really.

Just a verb on the snare and that's it.

Everything else is just EQ, compression, and some clipping.

[tribal orbit]

Hm. Maybe its the compression? Do you ahve it on the cymbals?

[fringe geode]

slight

not a lot

The thing about EzDrummer is that it has a mic bleed function. It's a real delicate balance to play with.

[versed remnant]

Desperately need feedback on this one tbh I think its my best work so far plus special guest vocalists, The irony in this song is that my last spoti release was a love song for the person this song is about after we had a horrible fight yesterday lol so yeah

idek what genre this shit is tbh

I also plan on actually playing the solo on my guitar instead of leaving it programmed but idk if it'll sound better or worse cuz my amp recording setup is shit

[fringe geode]

Do you have any amp sims?

[tribal orbit]

ohhh, yeah, my bandmate has said taht before

[versed remnant]

yeah but I use a website DAW for everything cuz I don't want to learn how to use a real one

[tribal orbit]

vocals are a little loud but, that can be fixed

[versed remnant]

noted

turning them down now

what else can I fix

[fringe geode]

Yeah. It's both cool and a pain in the ass. It's probably the only other nitpick I have other than the shit room tone lol.

[fringe geode]

Website DAW?

[versed remnant]

Soundation..

[fringe geode]

Never heard of it.

[versed remnant]

oh

well

good for you

it sucks

[fringe geode]

Lol

Just get Reaper it's free.

I can give you so much free shit.

[versed remnant]

no I refuse to learn reaper its scary

also

drum programming on there seems like it'll be anightmare

[fringe geode]

Reaper is actually quite easy to learn.

Except for programming MIDI.

[fringe geode]

Not a nightmare but it is a pain in the ass.

Hence why I use EzDrummer.

Well EZD2.

[versed remnant]

does that cost money

I'm broke

spoti ain't working

not enough streams

[fringe geode]

EZD3 does INDEED cost money.

[versed remnant]

(I've uploaded 10 songs in the past 5 days and I just started my artist profile money is NOT flowing)

[fringe geode]

It'll take awhile bruh don't worry you'll get there.

But EZD has thing thing where you can put take midi loops into a timeline and adjust them and basically make a whole song outta them.

But like I said it does cost money.

It's basically 200 bucks but if you plan to mix everything yourself it's worth it.

Just for the songwriting capabilities.

[fringe geode]

If you're broke and you need drums just use ML Drums.

The initial kit is free and if you want to expand, the expansion packs are sub 50 bucks.

Well 50 Euros

[versed remnant]

I know I know

[versed remnant]

oh thats not bad

[versed remnant]

That isn't horrible either

but is it good long term

I have long term plans to not only do my own work but also be a bigger producer

as you saw in the track I had my friends on

I plan on producing for them this sumemer after school because they're amazing singers

and Erin's a god pianist

she's been playing 11 years now

and I think they could be bigger than even taylor swift

so I told them they should let me work on stuff for them and produce for them

but I want a proper software when I do too

[fringe geode]

It depends on what your after.

• If you want strong songwriting capabilites, so much so your willing to do all of it from one plugin. The EZD is for you because not only can you midi loops in the EZD timeline without having to touch the DAW, but it has a grid editor to adjust as midi and add and take away parts, adjust how the drums are played and be extremely easy to route out for mixing. No mixing capabilities in the plugin but It's not as taxing on your PC as say GGD.

• If you you don't care for songwriting capabilities and program drums yourself with a midi controller or something, then ML Drums is for you. ML drums has a drum mixing suite in the plugin itself so you don't have to reach for any external plugins. Everything from EQ to compression is all built in into the plugin. It's also extremely light on your system. Lighter then even EZD.

Both have expansions, and while ML has cheaper expansions, EZD has more from previous version that you can use in EZD3. But there's plenty of kit pieces for both. EZD has it's own mapping while ML can use EZD, GGD, or General Midi mappings. The quality of said samples is up to you to decide whether or not they're good.

[versed remnant]

what is good for overall recording everything like putting all the pieces together

[versed remnant]

meant to ask what genre you'd say it is

[fringe geode]

Hard to say. Even though I had ML Drums for a while since the first kit was free and I could change the tunings on the drums heads, because I had to buy ML Drums Essentials to get the full experience out of it I decided against it. But since it's sub 50 bucks as well, it might not be so bad to buy it and take another look. That said, you can try EZD3 for free for 10 days and get the full experience before you end up buying it. I'm not sure if you have an e-kit, and Im not sure how well ML Drums plays nice with them, but Toontrack has always played nice with e-kits. I should also mention EDZ3 has this feature called bandmate. You give it your audio or midi and will give you a premade drum thing for you that the plugin thinks will work best with what you gave it that you can modify later. Whether you find it useful or not is up to you but like I said, you can try it for for free for 10 days.

[versed remnant]

ooo okok

thank you for the advice

[fringe geode]

There is also one more option I should mention as it would be a disservice not to and that's GGD One Kit Wonder. They are in essence, one kit but they are preprocessed and mix ready. Not quite as mix ready as say the stuff from say Bogren with Krimh, and definitely not as mix ready as Mixwave but just enough to where you can tweak it with little effort. They are usually 60 bucks a pop (with a special one being 70) and each one covers a different style with different kit pieces for each.

Modern Fusion
Aggressive Rock
Metal
Classic Rock
Dry and Funky
Pop Punk
Architects Signature Kit (the special one)

[versed remnant]

oooh

yummy

thanks for all this bro

I appreciate u

o7

[fringe geode]

Be aware the GGD stuff uses Kontakt and can be a pain in the ass to route, but if you find the samples are good enough, then they're worth it. They're a little iffy with e-kits sometimes but not enough to avoid them. And they use their own midi mapping so be extra aware of that.

[fringe geode]

Np!

[versed remnant]

Ahh okok

I don't have an e kit yet only an accoustic so

its a v shitty one

its only for practice until I get a good kit though

[fringe geode]

Hey even a shitty kit can sound like gold.

Except cymbals.

Splurg on cymbals bruh.

Zildjians are okay.

Paiste I have...opinions on.

Meinl are nice but pricy af.

Sabians are god tier (opinion).

[fringe geode]

@tribal orbit I made an updated version :3

[tribal orbit]

It’s a lot better

Still muddy when it comes to the guitars and cymbals, but better than before

Snare is a touch too loud for me tho

Like not even a decibel too loud

[fringe geode]

Yeah. One of my production teacher who's been doing this since the 70s told me that cymbals are the worst things to work with dealing with a drum kit lol.

[junior pendant]

Does anyone know how I can make the mix on the second bit with the guitars sound more professional?

[inner sedge]

are your drums on separate tracks

like the cymbals on one track, the kicks on one track, snares on one etc

makes it way easier

[fringe geode]

Yes

[inner sedge]

you're halfway there

[fringe geode]

Lol I know. I was telling Broon earlier that the Paiste cymbals (which is what they use in EZD3) are very bright compared to the Sabians I'm used to as a former drummer and current guitarist.

[real harness]

Hey guys
Yesterday when I listened to the new bmth, I felt so inspired, that I decided to write smth in the same style, but I ended up liking it way too much (like the breakdown is so good imo), so idk if I should write some vocals for it, or is it too bmth? like I'm so conflicted rn 😭
Also Im currently writing a cyberpunk-ish ep, and this is way too happy for it...
I would welcome all opinions

[hollow tulip]

i like this
you should go ahead recording vocals, it would probably complement it well (especially on the electronic parts)

imo the bass in the electronic parts are louder than the bass guitar in the metal parts, so you should make the bass guitar louder or make the bass in the electronic parts a little bit quieter (or both)

a wip metal (idk what subgenre you can call this) remake of Alice Margatroid's theme "Doll Judgment" (and one of my favorite boss themes too)
this is actually the 3rd time i've remade this project

[real harness]

Thx, I appreciate it so much. I will def try to figure the bass thing out

[hollow tulip]

no problem :)

[shrewd jetty]

Hi, working on my first album/ep and got a few tracks finished (not exactly finished, but far enough to listend). I am mainly guitarist, but I am playing every instrument on the tracks. I started doing vocals in the beginning of the year and I am not sure if I should put them on the album, so feedback on them would be greatly appreciated. (Feedback on the overall songs would be great too). Thank you.

[fathom jewel]

the instrumental mix and vocal performance sounds nice, but you can improve on the vocal mixing and production, get creative with it by adding some fx which can enhance the vocal production and serve the song accordingly, maybe some stereo panned layered vocals and overdubs for more impact and emphasis on certain lyrics etc.

finished this song today, feedback on the mixing/song structure is very welcome

[real harness]

Damn, the electronic bit in the beginning of first13 goes so hard, would be cool if you utilized it a bit more in the song. Also your extreme vox are on point, I think with some better mixing they will sound fire. The only criticism I have, that wasnt said before, is that some transitions are a bit too abrupt, like in 2:22 and there is not enough low end around like 1k or a bit lower (but Im not sure). But overall keep doing your thing, king

[versed remnant]

Chat I really need feedback on this as its the first part of a three part song to an upcoming album

[tribal orbit]

I’ll give feedback to the stuff I missed the past few days while I’m stuck at a desk at work

[lavish sundial]

What do you guys think about this? I'm thinking to use it as a last chorus and an ending breakdown for some not yet existing song

all the guitar takes were just some takes to have something to write drums and bass to

[tribal orbit]

if you're using ableton, the utility audio effect can widen the tracks, as well as a saturator to make it feel bigger

[tribal orbit]

The guitars a little faint, as well as a bit too centered. I thinking widening it would do wonders, cuz thats a great track compositionally

[tribal orbit]

The guitars are drowned out by teh strings and bass. Probably an EQ and levelling fix

but good otehrwise

[tribal orbit]

My only complaint is teh vocal mixing. They feel too... dry? Some reverb, delay, and maybe some hard panned backing screams would help

[tribal orbit]

The master is a little too bright; too airy. Maybe bring the bass up a bit to darken it

[tribal orbit]

not my cup of tea, but I see potential. The mic is clipping a lot tho, probably rerecord, lower the gain, or back away from the mic a bit

[tribal orbit]

great guitar tone. idk if you mixed/mastered for this, as you said it was just some wip stuff. It's very high-mid/treble-y, hurts my ears to listen to. The structure and idea is there, though, and they're executed pretty well

[junior pendant]

Thanks so much!

[tribal orbit]

[lavish sundial]

Thanks for the feedback, gonna try and change things to make it sound better

[real harness]

Damn, thanks for the advice. I will surely try the widening thing

[tribal orbit]

Usually I’d just hard pan left and right and then play two takes

You can use a 100% wet delay effect and split the left and right channels by about 15 ms apart

I personally wouldn’t do that, but it’s possible

[real harness]

Ye, I do the same, but just 60% left and right. Guess I'll try doing it wider

[tribal orbit]

Yeah always hard pan, so 100% each

[hollow tulip]

i see, thanks

[spice arch]

something I made a while back. Trying to think of vocals for it but for now it's instrumental.

[spare sundial]

Boingus

[gleaming haven]

Did I cook for this riff

[gleaming haven]

Reminds me of Within Destruction's pretty phase. Nice job!

[gleaming haven]

Part 2

[tribal orbit]

It sounds pretty neato. Obviously will be better when you play it

but its neato

[tribal orbit]

The dissonance you added is neat. i think once you get around to actually recording, if you hard pan the dissonance, it'll sound good

[tribal orbit]

Overall mix is very airy, and the synth you added is a little overpowering. The kick and bass are clashing on frequencies as well, causing super loud bass overall

It feels like it lacks mids

buuut, the composition is good, and I like the idea you're going for

[acoustic niche]

Alternate pick, it’s a lot easier on your hand

Just takes a bit to get used to

[gleaming haven]

Thanks

[versed remnant]

Intro for a death/thrash metal song I'm working on

what do we think

[kind trail]

I'm literally losing my mind waiting for a new Kadinja album, so I made Kadinja at home. What do you all think (Compositionally and Mix-wise)? Disclaimer: I left some space in there for vocals that I'm going to lay down later

[versed remnant]

What do we think chat this is the full song pre mix pre bass and pre vocals but hows the overall idea and structure sounding?

[versed remnant]

Yo this sounds sick as fuck

whats ur bass plguin?

[kind trail]

From what I can hear it sounds good but everything being in Mono makes things hard to hear

To parse out what's going on

[versed remnant]

yeah its still very pre mix Bass hasn't even been done yet

[kind trail]

UmanskyBass

I'm also using NeuralDSP's plugins

[versed remnant]

bippitybopitty if this is a free plugin It'll become my property

[kind trail]

It's probably free somewhere lol

Anyways the reason I used that over other libraries is because it's got thumping as an articulation

[versed remnant]

Everything is free somewhere if you look hard enough

yeah thuimping is nice

do you program everything for bass then?

[kind trail]

Yeah

I don't own a real one 😦

I would love to play a real one but no space 😦

[versed remnant]

Real shit tbh I need to get a bass

I'm tired of shittily programming it

[kind trail]

What do you use?

[versed remnant]

Guitar + Octaveshift and 808s

[kind trail]

Oh fuck yeah I remember when I used to do that too

Rough times

[versed remnant]

I have an effects preset that makes my guitar sound like a cello so at least i have that

You can hear it used as the main fill in one my my spotify releases

cuz it genuinley sounds good

[kind trail]

Spotify?

What's it called?

[versed remnant]

Dance of the Dead- Graetxr Deth

I haven't finished vocals yet but I added some and mixed the guitar a little more

[solemn mesa]

Two instrumentals (guitars are slightly messy because I recorded them when I had just freshly came up with the idea in 15 minutes) Working on phrasing the vocals but curious what you think of the sound/mix

Drums and bass are plugins and all midi while guitars are were recording (one singular mix in front of a 2x50 amp with effects added afterwards (vocal reverb, gate, and eq) (kick and snare are the same sample but ran through two outputs with different eq on both, for the snare its one output with eq reverb gate and then the other output is the same but with a pitch affect to pitch it up, kick is same setup but ones high frequency the other is the lower frequency)

[versed remnant]

what do we think chat

4:30, 7:55 (placeholder for chopping song)

[tribal orbit]

Was the goal of this track to sound like black metal?

Like I'm not trying to be mean, but the production is rough

I can hear the guitar and thats about it

[tribal orbit]

Limbo has the exact same intro riff as The Stage/St James by A7X, might wanna change that. Overall, cool idea though.
Circles sounds too same-y for me to really dig it. Very repetitive. I think if there were clear markers as to what section of the songs I'm at, it would be a lot better

[tribal orbit]

Same issue as before for me, mix is like black metal, but it needs some sort of limiter on the track to prevent it from peaking and blowing my ears out. The guitars are barely audible, they're much too percussive to tell what notes are being played

[versed remnant]

yes like black metal but faster and worse sounding

its hard to get a good mix because recording guitar with my current setup just sucks

I desperately need an interface

Is this better sounding or nah? @tribal orbit

[kind blaze]

It's kinda supposed to have a vibe of old school bullet/in flames/old dimmu borgir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQniTg0NmZA

[tribal orbit]

Still not for me, really. The black metal style of mixing really puts a hamper on my enjoyment of it. The guitar is now audible and sounds pretty impressive, issue is really just how everything is mixed

[tribal orbit]

Sounds pretty epic, mix is decent, too. Biggest standout thing that could be an easy-ish fix would be the vocal mix- sounds bit washed out(?)
Personal taste thing: the baritone vocals are cool, but they sound a bit forced

[tribal orbit]

It definitely can work, just maybe some more practice so whoever’s doing them is a bit more comfortable with it

Cuz a lot of the modern metal I listen to focus on doing more high cleans to counter the heavy scream

[solemn mesa]

thanks, yeah, i completely kinda cut that tapping intro out mainly just due to location for my band i can only get one guitarist so im just trying to write stuff that he’d be able to play, circles is tricky because i haven’t found any interesting transitions except vocally wise in practice that really like help signify the parts but im hoping to lay down beginning vocal tracks tomorrow

[versed remnant]

what exactly sdhould I change about the mix to make it sound more thrashy/death metaly as opposed to black metaly

[tribal orbit]

tbh it's hard to explain cuz I know you said something about how you need an interface. For the most part, it's just teh quality of everything. Also seems like a lack of EQing on most tracks

[versed remnant]

So basically the thing I have no idea how to do is the thing I need to fix

YOUTUBE TIMEEE

[tribal orbit]

I'd recommend watching videos on how to mix/master metal tracks

I use ableton, so I added taht to my search when I first started

[versed remnant]

What about this one? Does this mix sound any better (Its metalcore not black metal :D)

[versed remnant]

thankyouthankyou

[tribal orbit]

Am in class rn so I can't listen

[versed remnant]

ahh okay

[tribal orbit]

Ye, college sure is a thing

[versed remnant]

caN I shoot it to you in dms and you listen later and give me advice?

[tribal orbit]

Ye, that way it doesnt get lost

[versed remnant]

Sweet thanks dude

[tribal orbit]

I'll give it a listen between courses today

[versed remnant]

okok

[tribal orbit]

Np. If youd liek, I might have time sometime tonight to stream what my mix/mastering looks like on most tracks

[versed remnant]

PLEASE

I'm also ging to try and learn ableton rn

just

need to find a legit site to obtain it

[tribal orbit]

lmao

fair

[versed remnant]

what version do u use

[tribal orbit]

I use 11, but I could upgrade to 12 cuz thats free

11 and up allow you to use VST3

[versed remnant]

12's free or jsut for you cuz u own 11

[tribal orbit]

Cuz I own 11

[versed remnant]

okay I figured

[tribal orbit]

ye. The student/teacher discount is at 60% now

so like

It's dirt cheap compared to when I got it

[versed remnant]

oh wow wait maybe I should buy it

is it a subscription?

[tribal orbit]

Nah, one time license

also i'm checking the site now

[versed remnant]

how much is it with student discount

cuz

[tribal orbit]

You can't get a free upgrade with the student license, but like, it's ableton so

[versed remnant]

also are highschool student elligible t

[tribal orbit]

uhh lemme check

[versed remnant]

okok

[tribal orbit]

12 standard is like 159

from what I can tell

[versed remnant]

oh!

[tribal orbit]

ah, I lied 175

but still

[versed remnant]

Well I'm finally getting a job this summer so I should be able to purchase it at some point

[tribal orbit]

Ye, thats an easy first paycheck purchase

[versed remnant]

but for now I'll find a legal free version

yeah

[tribal orbit]

lmao fair

gl soldier

[versed remnant]

tyty o7

do u have a link alr or do I need to do this search on my own

and hope I don't get avirus

wait what if I get the trial is there a way I can spoof it

wait is fl studio good for metal

I already have that

[tribal orbit]

1. search on your own

2. There is a trial, it's a one month

3. It's what a lot of people use, but there's a steep learning curve

[versed remnant]

Yeah thats why I quit trying to learn it tbh

I just found a three hour turtorial

is it worth learning tho

[tribal orbit]

I don't like FL cuz chaining fx is kind of a pain

Ableton is literally "lemme drag and drop this here in the chain"

[versed remnant]

ahhhh I see

[tribal orbit]

oui

[versed remnant]

I think I finally found a better way to record my guitar by routiung it through my laptop tbh I have it going through my pedal to my laptop and out the amp with the cables I had laying around

I wonder if I can have the output be my computer some how

like my desktop

[tribal orbit]

Ableton has a way to do that

[versed remnant]

and not have to worry about FX on my guitar

yeah I'm using bandlab as an amp sim

I have the perfect Floods tone

without my pedal enabled its the outro but when I turn on my pedal its the solo

[tribal orbit]

Ableton has like some -eh- amp sims. They're pretty bad but like, they're free with the daw, so you can't really complain too much

[versed remnant]

fairfair

I know steve T's amp sim isn't bad I have that on my desktop just again its issues with latency for me which is why I stopped using it

oh my god its my desktop usb ports

[tribal orbit]

nah

it's the audio driver

you ahve to use ASIO4ALL as your audio driver

[versed remnant]

I get no latency with my laptop while running it through my pedal and shit but I get more latency on my desktop wioth the same setup

and my laptops a chromebook

[tribal orbit]

probably a driver thing and how the chromebook communicates with whatever your inputting

anyway i gtg. class stuff

[versed remnant]

thats prolly true too

alr dude

thanks for everything

glhf with class

[versed remnant]

I'd appreciate some feedback on this as its now more Eqed and a little more refined, It still needs more done but I think the finish is finally in sight so

[tribal orbit]

rough vocal mix idfk

[runic adder]

god this took

and it's STILL sloppy

ugh

also no bass yet bc lazy

calm lil riff

[runic adder]

added bass, but now I'm torn between two different amps

can i get some opinions on which y'all like more?

[kind blaze]

Trying to mix old skool bfmv/in flames/old dimmu borgir synths..

sadboi-melo-deth-castlevania-core lol.

[tribal orbit]

@kind blaze @runic adder Will listen and give feedback sometime today.

[hollow tulip]

extended the mix a bit and transposed the whole thing by -2 semitones
i also used another snare tone, is the tone good?

[tribal orbit]

both mixes are a little dark, and the drums are eh, at least samples wise. Guitar work is good though. Nameless sounds better

[tribal orbit]

That snare is really out of place. Very loud compared to the rest of the mix

But you nailed the balance between the synth and the guitars. Good job

Theres something odd in the mix at ~0:31. It's throwing my head through a loop cuz I have no idea what it is. It kinda sounds like a weird impact sample but idfk

Vocals are... there? Heavily drowned out by eveyrthing else though

The guitars seem a bit hollow. Like they fill the mix, sure, but they're over compressed, so they just sound like a synth hitting the notes you want.

[runic adder]

It’s definitely the drum mix, not the samples

What makes them eh?

And what makes you go with nameless over granophyre?

[tribal orbit]

The cymbals 100%. The snare is a little less snappy than I think it should be. Everything feels very lethargic, like the velocity on the samples aren’t high enough, or the EQ is choking the high end

[tribal orbit]

The guitar tone overall is clearer

[runic adder]

I can tell you it’s not the velocity either lol

Could you send an example of a song that’s more along the sound you’re thinking?

Might reference to see what I can fix, the snare needed to be fixed anyway but I’m not sure I hear what you’re saying about it being lethargic

The cymbals might be an easy fix, I might’ve overcompressed them with the 1176 which can make it a little lofi

If anything, it could be that I didn’t boost the high end at all

[tribal orbit]

Like idk how to explain it, the samples just don't feel right. Maybe its due to the mix? Everything is so dark, thats it might be causing me to think eveyrthing feels a little low energy?

[runic adder]

Last I checked my cymbal chains aren’t that hard

Istg I did not pay for superior drummer 3 for the samples to be eh 🗿

It’s gotta be something with my mix

[tribal orbit]

It's the mix then

[fringe geode]

What drums are you using?

[rugged vector]

Hey guys, I know it’s a long one, but would anybody be an absolute legend and give this a listen and give me some feedback? Looking for feedback on the composition more than anything right now as it’s all VSTs at the moment

(Ignore the name, it’s just the project name 🤣)

https://on.soundcloud.com/5nGQ5osrErdKSarS6

[runic adder]

Superior drummer 3, death and darkness pack