Feedback Requests

[dire fox]

The riff is really cool though!

[runic adder]

normally I use JST hellraiser, but I got a darkglass pedal for playing live recently and wanted to dial it in

[runic adder]

yuh, old Whitechapel is insane

normally my mixes have a modern Exodus sounding bass tone

[dire fox]

Oh fuck yeah it is! I have " And now you rot" tattooed on my forearm 😎 🤟

[dire fox]

i think a bit of a mid range boost would make the bass pop a bit more and not just fill in the low end

[runic adder]

if I were to get a tattoo like that it'd be "until death do us part, we'll rot hand in hand" because it's kinda romantic

[dire fox]

I'm also not a bass player so take my words with a grain of salt, but I think it sounds good in the mix, maybe a stereo widener might make the mix sound more full

[runic adder]

don't really like stereo wideners ngl

[dire fox]

That's fair! to each their own!

[runic adder]

thank you for the comments though, this bass sound is super new to me(my old bass sound included for reference), i'm trying to spread out to use more of my physical gear instead of plugins

still gonna find a way to get this sound with the darkglass, but for now this is what it'll be

[dire fox]

That sounds great to me! Really clear sounding, a bit of CHONKY distortion would make that pop really nice!

[runic adder]

like, say...darkglass distortion?

lmao I don't think I'll layer them just yet

but yeah thanks

[dire fox]

Of course! Sorry if I wasn't really helpful!

[runic adder]

nah nah youre fine

definitely helped the tone confidence

[dire fox]

I'm glad to hear! Confidence is such a bass element to "success". Or at least being content with what we make! I think what you shared sounds great! Best of luck in your craft and I hope it gets to where you want it!

[kind blaze]

Any particular reason you chose to add DB's to the 2k region? Just wondering.

Mix sounds quite good! Sick Whitechapel riff too.

[runic adder]

c l a n k

[kind blaze]

One thing I have difficulties with, and I see it back in your mix is that the snare is a bit thin and I dont play incredibly distorted.

[runic adder]

alright

i could beef up the snare, but the guitars will stay how they are, im using a real amp and I'm not gonna rerecord all that lmao

[kind blaze]

Im gonna try just doubling the samples.

[kind blaze]

Nah, Im not saying yours are too distorted.

[runic adder]

oh

mb, that's how I interpreted it

[kind blaze]

Nah man, was saying I have a lot of diffulties myself beefing up the snare many times even though I generally play way less distorted music.

[dire fox]

I usually try and have my snare boost in the low-mid range, too much mis and i get the metalica garbage can, but a tiny bit of low-mid boost, and make sure that it doesn't clash with the low-mid of the kick and i find it gives the snare some more OOMPH. Just me though, I'm not a pro

too much MIDS**

[kind blaze]

Yeah, those are good tips! It works to make the snare sound clear in the mix, but it still always feel a bit tiny 😦 Perhaps I need to get a good reverb on it next to the room/ambience f

[dire fox]

A small amount of reverb can help fill some sound out, but careful of having too much and the reverb can cause interference patterns in the sounds that follow. I'd just pepper it in a little and see how it sounds in the mix!

[kind blaze]

Thanks! Yeah I never really overdo fx unless its intentional so will definitely keep it in mind

[daring sierra]

Sounds pretty good man. I don't have any specific feedback on this one at the moment lol

[dire fox]

Thanks for checking it out! I think it sounds better than the previous mixes, and has a little more solid structure to the song!

[daring sierra]

Yea for sure. I didn't notice anything off about it or something I felt didn't work

[dire fox]

@daring sierra just listened to longing! I love how melodic it is! You've got a killer fry scream, good job!

[hollow tulip]

a lil project i made in FL Studio just for fun
this is a metal remix of Fujiwara no Mokou's theme from Touhou 8: Imperishable Night

any instruments you hear are virtual since i can't play guitars and drums and stuff

mixing is a bit muddy

[daring sierra]

My new song released today!

https://open.spotify.com/track/27IapsURzUeYahUTz5grad?si=f8pnyQeOQmSJ9stZVURyUg

It is on all platforms, so YouTube, Spotify, apple, etc. Let me know what you think! Any likes or shares are massively appreciated

YouTube link for those so inclined:

https://youtu.be/0o6d3uUClKI

[kind blaze]

What genre would this be considered?

[swift slate]

sounds metalcore to me

[kind blaze]

You think so? I was thinking that plus maybe a little thrash

I was wondering so ik what to title the video it'll be attached to

[swift slate]

Some parts give me A7X vibes

[kind blaze]

It makes me really happy you say that

Cause I was kinda aiming for that in my inspiration

Good to know I got the sound somewhat

I was bored and have been practicing how to mix properly so this was something I popped out

And now ik I could label it Metalcore or A7X inspired riffs or something on my YT

[swift slate]

Is it mixed rn or do you plan on mixing it?

[kind blaze]

I mean. It can be mixed infinitely better than what I did- LMAO I just mixed it to the extent of my knowledge atm

[swift slate]

To be fair my mixes were kinda like this at the begining and it sounds way better now but i still dont consider myself either a good mix ingeneer nor a producer

[kind blaze]

At most I fixed the volumes to avoid a loudness war, cut the low end of the guitars, and panned things to sound fuller and more spaced out

Double tracked guitars

[swift slate]

this is one of the last track i made and mixed

[kind blaze]

Everyday is practice yknow?

[swift slate]

well not everyday but everytime i make a good song to me i try to mix it

[kind blaze]

Oh shit

I really like thw riffage you got going on

The guitar tone is nice

I'm using all free stuff on FL Studio- like I don't have a rig set up for my guitar, I just hook it up directly to FL Studio as a microphone and it gets amplified through a free amp plugin

[swift slate]

The guitar tone is made by a band called allt so yea the tone is insane

[hollow tulip]

haven't listened to the full song yet but yeah sounds metalcore-y

imo

[kind blaze]

Y'see, the "e-y" is why I was curious lmao

[hollow tulip]

i'm not really a genre expert myself

[swift slate]

Yea i have the petrucci archetype for the guitar tone and djinn bass for the bass with a custom neural DSP parallax tone

[kind blaze]

Petrucci, my lord

Please give me your powers

I'll look into that

I love his tones

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/dream-theater-john-petrucci-john-myung-gif-22682084

praise the petrucci

[swift slate]

Its like 140 i think

[kind blaze]

Bro

I got all these free plugins im using

The drums are a vst plugin

The bass is the stock BooBass in FL

[swift slate]

And the parallax is 99

Well yea i paid a few things lmao

[kind blaze]

Paying helps

Gives quality

Like I'd want a better tone for the guitar than what I currently have but

[hollow tulip]

a lil project in fl studio (all instruments are virtual)
this is a sort-of metal remix of Remilia Scarlet's theme "Septette for the Dead Princess"

[kind blaze]

The Stevie T amp free version existed

So i got it

[kind blaze]

Love the harpsicord sound

And that snare is explosive

[swift slate]

If i was at home i would aks you to send me the DI tracks to see how it would sounds like with the way i mix for free ofc

Sadly i'm not home before like 7th of august

[kind blaze]

I would if I could anyway

Unfortunately

free FL Studio doesnt save ur files

:)

LMAO

Once ur done with a project

It's gone

[swift slate]

Oh i see yea sad

[kind blaze]

Even if you "save" said files, you'd never be able to reopen the project

[swift slate]

And do you have anything for guitar tabs and stuff like this?

[hollow tulip]

i mean you could always record a riff idea that came into your head and save it into a medium that stores files

i.e. a phone

(don't lose it like Kirk did)

[kind blaze]

I usually remember how I do it

I suppose I could chart it

[kind blaze]

I do this alr

That's why the file I sent earlier is Guitar Shit V13

[swift slate]

If you have the tabs i can try to rerecord it with my tones

[kind blaze]

Ngl now I wanna tab it

I'll get to u whenever I do

[swift slate]

But you will have to wait for early/mid August for it

also this is the last track i made and mixed and this time i have with me both the mixed and non mixed version so you can see the difference

and yes the tiny drum fill wasn't there before the mix

[hollow tulip]

drums definitely sound more punchier in the mixed version

i ran out of comments to make sorry about that

another remix, this time it's a remix of U.N. Owen was Her
(all instruments stay virtual as always)

[swift slate]

lmao and i also find the guitar less "scratchy" to the ears and muffeld

[hollow tulip]

the unmixed version has that demo sound (imo)

i like it

[swift slate]

Well that bacially what a demo is lmao

[hollow tulip]

just asking how do you make the kick be able to punch through the mix

i'm not really an expert at mixing drums myself

[swift slate]

The way i do its a play with EQ and compression

[hollow tulip]

okay

[swift slate]

I think i use an SSL EQ and a parametric EQ like fabfilter a multi band compressor and a "classic" compressor

[hollow tulip]

thanks

[swift slate]

But it depends on the track most of the time

[hollow tulip]

now it's trial and error time for me

[swift slate]

Yea took me few months to get to that kick sound with this drum kit its a VST tho

[hollow tulip]

no judging done

everything and literally everything i make is done with vsts

[swift slate]

I'm no drummer so its VST or no drums lmao

[hollow tulip]

go vst or go home

[swift slate]

Even bass is a VST

I mean with this VST i have a dingwall bass tone for 100 bucks

But a real dingwall is like 2600

[kind blaze]

How do peoppe go about top down mixing? I only use a little comp

[swift slate]

What do you mean by that?

[kind blaze]

Start from the master bus

While mixing. It should help with workflow but Im still trying to get it right

[swift slate]

well i never mix on the master bus i always create groups for guitar/bass/each drum parts/the entire drum kit/production/strings and stuff like that plus parallel FX channels for a snare reverb for example

[mint acorn]

Hello all! I just wrote this last night, very minimal skill in all of it but would love and criticism and feedback to dial this in better

That’s the full wav ^

[hollow tulip]

changes

[hollow tulip]

nice indeed

imo it should use some bass guitar (unless you're doing an ...And Justice For All )

[mint acorn]

I haven’t added those yet! But I do intend. Thank you 😊

[strange dirge]

Just released my first single as an independant artist. any feedback would be great🙃 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub-bEaKwlFE

[fathom jewel]

just pretend x FING

lol

[daring sierra]

So my main points of feedback would be that there is nothing in particular wrong with any of it. I think maybe the drums are a touch too loud compared to the guitars and so the mix sounds a bit smaller than it could.

The vocals are a bit too similar throughout. The break at around 2:30 sounded great and added some much needed dynamics. The vocals are very black metal, but the rest of the song didn't seem as much in that style. Because if the style of vocals throughout I couldn't really catch the lyrics either.

I would recommend finding some more ways to color the songs as you go. Maybe some small changes to the tails of the riffs, some drum changeups, or even some different styles of vocals here and there to keep the ear engaged.

Good work!

[strange dirge]

Thank you! that helps alot! also this was my first time ever doing vocals so that's why its pretty similar throughout but im working on trying some new things soon

[daring sierra]

I think there was some good stuff to build on, so keep expanding your vocal and musical toolbox!

https://youtu.be/CgGWLuVqSus

Made a lyric video for my song on Vizzy.io which is a free tool! Check it out!

Note: you can do much more advanced stuff than I did.

[daring sierra]

Very cool djent-ish vibe. Like the heavy elements pulling from a more electronic feel! Nice balance between the chill and heavy parts.

Now make a whole song 😈

[proven berry]

[daring sierra]

I think it sounds great overall. I did think when the electric guitar came in it sounded a bit small compared to what came before. I think it's just the clean guitar preceding it could maybe be pulled back a touch?

[daring sierra]

It definitely has like early 2000s nu metal or disturbed feel to its production.

Without vocals it is hard to say how well the section from 30 seconds on will work as that section need the vocals to sell it imo.

Good work.

[fathom jewel]

I accidentally left rhythm guitars mono

[fathom jewel]

it is fixed but now its peaking

can't maintain headroom

[blissful cliff]

here's a random thing I made last night that I thought had potential

It's just guitar and drums, with no editing so far

thoughts on the tone and the drum programming?

[blissful cliff]

and also the riff in general. It's pretty simple but I thought it goes pretty hard

[daring sierra]

I think it's good enough that you should continue to flesh it out for sure.

[kind blaze]

Random chord progression I came up with. Probably gonna turn it into a song later but I wanted to know if it sounds good. Ignore the bad production, I just wanted to get it in a DAW asap before I forgot it.

[runic adder]

sounds like a little more than just a chord progression to me, idk

sounds sick as fuck tho

[kind blaze]

Well more like an intro to a song

But thanks :)

[runic adder]

kinda reminds me of nier automata

and i love that ost

[kind blaze]

:)

I can’t say I’ve ever heard that

[runic adder]

hold on now I'm thinking of another song as well, I'll link a song from nier and the one im thinking about once I find them

Attack on titan OST I originally thought of, specifically the vocal melody at 4:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO3jCpoTyIg&ab_channel=PritonK

My favorite track from the Nier: Automata OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyZaNx8T-fM&ab_channel=KeigoHoashi-Topic

kinda different vibes but that's what it reminded me of

anyway though all that to say that your idea is sick

[inner sedge]

@runic adder @daring sierra seeing as you both offered to give feedback for it, i figured i'd ping for this

i apologize for... most of it

[runic adder]

what's going on with the drums there?

my biggest piece of advice right now is to have the drums, at the very least, play in time with the guitars

or, have the guitars play in time with the drums

next would be to have the drums be less chaotic

Pick a single drumbeat and have it loop for 4, maybe 8 measures, and then change it

for example, you could take the riff at 0:25-0:36, adjust it to last for 4 measures, and have blast beating under that

[inner sedge]

mostly me being a third rate guitarist and a no rate drummer

[native junco]

Well I guess I´ll throw some of my bullshit in here as well and see what happens. I already apologize for it (it´s just some kind of beta in so many ways that was never meant to be shown to anyone at all 😅 ) and everyone that suffered through it from start to end already got my most respect. Thanks in advance. 🙂

[runic adder]

Do you know how to play with a metronome?

[inner sedge]

ye, i did my best to do that but i think the drums might not be in time to the metronome cause they're programmed instead of played normally

[upper bridge]

My cover of rar of the jungle dragon with my friend @runic adder :3333

[native junco]

If the drums are programed there is no freakin´ way that they are not on time. If something still doesn´t fit it´s either because your guitar playing is not on time or the riffs didn´t fit the drums to begin with.

Don´t worry though, it´s just some more practice. I went through the same once. But that´s also how I know. 😅

[inner sedge]

probably the latter, then, but it sounded alright to me when i listened back

i mean the drums are playing more intense stuff than the guitar but it didn’t seem terrible at least to me

[runic adder]

oh yes hi I did vocals, roast me if you dare

my bark is very prominent in this but I have no bite so actually feel free to criticise or critique

[runic adder]

some advice I'd offer is to pay attention to the drums in songs you listen to. Take note of how often the drums switch patterns, more often than not it'll be 4-8 measures. And try to have the drums match with the guitars. If there's a fast riff, maybe some blast beats or a double-kick pattern would fit better than a 4-on-the-floor slam beat. If theres a big chuggy breakdown you could match the kick with the chugs. Your DAW should have a grid with the metronome, when I'm programming my drums I like to have that grid divided into 16th notes. As a general rule, It's good to stick with having the snare on the third beat of the measure(the 9th note if the grid is in 16ths). I can show you what my programmed drums look like, and provide a clip, if you'd like.

[kind blaze]

Honestly sick vocals dude...they are still a lil dry in the mix, but the vocals themselves are pretty sick. Also enjoy the little interlude/outro around the third minute.

[runic adder]

Thanks! @upper bridge did the instrumental and mix, so you could talk a little more with him on that

thank you for enjoying my performance though (:

[kind blaze]

You can also use visual aid in your DAW and see where in the measure you have been playing your accents by looking at the transients. Its honest feedback on your timing.

[inner sedge]

i would very much like that, because i have no idea what i’m doing when it comes to making drum patterns and fills

[vapid eagle]

how does the quality of this sound? 4 guitar tracks plus some basic eq on the drums

is it clear?

[runic adder]

This is what my drum layout looks like. The light gray lines mark each measure, the dark gray lines mark each 1/4th note in the measure.

when you're starting out, you usually want to have a cymbal hit on each 1/4th note, and a snare hit on the third 1/4th note

if you want to make a simple straight beat, put a hi-hat on each 1/4th note, a snare hit on the third 1/4th note, and a kick hit on the first 1/4th note

very simple beat

the video is slightly behind the audio, but take note of the cymbals and snare

the cymbals are on each 1/4th note, unless I add another hit as an accent, and the snare is almost always on that third beat

the metronome could help keep track of that

wait shit the metronome wasn't recorded in the video

nvm on that bit then lol

[runic adder]

yes, it's clear, but why do you need 4 guitars? it doesn't sound like you're really doing anything with them, you could do that with 2 guitars

or maybe 3 actually

two rhythm and one lead

did you double track the lead?

[vapid eagle]

Panning

Yes

[runic adder]

just put the lead in the center

[runic adder]

I have 4 guitars here, two rhythm and two lead

but the lead guitars are both in the center, and they're doing slightly different things

[vapid eagle]

Hmm

[runic adder]

I'd say if you want to have two lead guitar tracks, have them harmonize or something

otherwise you could use one lead track in the center

[vapid eagle]

I thought about doing that for this part, but it’s the first pass through

And I’m on a very high/ mid tone with relatively low gain

So double tracking helps to fill it in more

And as for my panning, I have the rhythm panned 70 to each side, and the leads panned 26 to each side

[runic adder]

lead tones don't need a lot of gain

[vapid eagle]

Yeah it doesn’t have a lot on it

[runic adder]

if they're mostly going to sit in the center anyway, why not just use one lead guitar in the center?

turn up the gain slightly and put it in the center

[vapid eagle]

Because having 2 in the mix fills it in more

It gives it more depth

Let me pan one center an mute the other

And I’ll compare

[inner sedge]

excellent, i’ll check this out later tonight when i have time to

[runic adder]

if you want a little depth, give it some reverb and/or delay, or you could harmonize it, or just add an octave

[vapid eagle]

that's it panned center and raised a little more

with the other one muted

idk how i feel about it

i like the little differences in the double track

but i also kinda like the single

I was also going to do the harmonization after this part, as it’s only the first pass through

[runic adder]

you could keep the little differences and the second track, just do something with it

I have the second guitar doing an octave here...mainly because I don't own an octave pedal lol

[runic adder]

that's where you could add in the second guitar

[vapid eagle]

Interesting

So start the first section at center

And then pan to the sides for harmony?

[runic adder]

you don't have to pan to the sides, but if you do, make sure they have enough room in the center to blend

but yeah something like that

[vapid eagle]

Well def not hard pan, but like 20 or smth

[runic adder]

you could do something like that, yeah

bottom line is, I don't feel like 2 lead guitars are necessary in a spot where they're doing the exact same thing

[vapid eagle]

Ok that makes sense. Thank you.

[daring sierra]

I would mostly repeat a lot of what @runic adder said as it is all good advice. Programming drums is kinda hard. A lot of guitarists try to do it but do not have a good sense of where to put fills and where to just ride a groove, and so you get a lot of very talented guitarists who just play over a "Boom Clap" style rhythm. While that is not great, it is certainly better than playing over something too chaotic. But

You can find some pre-programmed drum midis online. You can also buy some if you are so inclined. GetGood Drums has a lot in different styles and it can be a great practice tool for learning to play with someone since you have to lock into a preset groove.

Focus on just hitting the downbeats accurately and locking into the rhythm. If you are in a daw, record your metronome practice and you can look at the file after and see how well you lined up with the beats. Anything within say .04 seconds is okay, .02 seconds is good.

It is hard to give proper feedback on your recording because right now it is a little too chaotic, and not in a "controlled chaos way".

But absolutely dont give up on it either. Keep making riffs, keep practicing, and you will inevitably grow. Hell, get a guitar teacher too. I am learning under a classical guitarist so I can polish up some of my knowledge and improve my songwriting. and I have been playing for over 15 years.

Something I intend to build into a song. Might be my next release 🤔

[daring sierra]

I think the mix needs the most work lol. Are you panning things? maybe pan the leads further (like 70% on each side if double tracked) and then the rhythm guitars at like 30.

Compositionally, it mostly sounds like a jam as it is a lot of stuff that more or less is at the same tempo and sounds and feels the same. Also some stuff sounded a bit out of tune, particularly on leads. But that could happen in a 7 minute jam lol.

if you wanted to take the main riff and turn it into a song, I would focus on how you are going to transition into something that feels distinctly different. Usually you can do this by switching up the "tail" of the riff so that it goes somewhere else naturally and gets you out of the loop.

[daring sierra]

I would say this kinda depends on if there are vocals or not. If there are vocals you may have them panned far to the side so that the vocals are in the center or something. But for an intrumental, yea it will usually be in the center.

[vapid eagle]

@runic adder how does this sound?

i know it's rough but that's kinda what i was thinking

the first bit has the lead centralized, and then the second bit it harmonizes and splits

[daring sierra]

Sounds solid. The split at the end is dissonant, but that can be a good way to introduce a new section that is more aggressive or something.

As an aside, the drums are way quiet. If you haven't already, EQ it so the guitars (and bass if it is there) have a high pass around 100hz or so. The bass would be different. But basically you wanna carve out some space for the drums as the kick is almost inaudible and the snare is there, but somewhat quiet.

[vapid eagle]

the guitars are already EQed that way. i just have to go in and fix the bass drum since i'm pretty sure i messed something up when i EQed it before

[runic adder]

sounds good to me, though I'd add a slight fade to the panned leads so it's not as sharp/jarring when they come in

[runic adder]

That's fair

[daring sierra]

Here is an unreleased track that got shelved because I could never come up with vocals/lyrics that I really liked for it. Fun as hell to play though.

[runic adder]

my band has a bunch of songs like that lol

[daring sierra]

Also, the live drums were really hard to work with on this one. It was right before the drummer replaced some of his mics and the kick is really hard to get to work as a result

[runic adder]

like, unreleased bc no vocals

[daring sierra]

Vocals are important lol

[native junco]

It´s not actually the mix tbh. It´s the recording itself. I don´t use any audio interfaces at all and the amp that I can use to record is a small 30W amp that also disables the output of the speaker if I plug it into the computer. So I can´t even hear myself while recording and I don´t know how well I´ve done until I´m finished. But I will try what you said the first time I will work on my stuff again.

The composition is actually what always happens when I write a song tbh. I get more and more ideas what I can also do with it and I add it to the song. I also wanted to ask somewhere how the freakin´ hell people come up with songs shorter than 5 min at all. I can´t even get close to imagine doing that ever in my life. 😅
But you´re also right about the tempo not changing too much in that song except for that middle part right after the 2nd and 3rd chorus. Also don´t forgett that it is missing any vocals. That could also help a lot with the feeling of everything being the same. But I´ve got another one of these I´m going to post as well that has more changes in tempo and hopefully feels a little different. And about the jam-feel you´re also not too wrong, especially the solo part was still improvised at the time, which is also why that part is longer than it needed to be.

Anyway thanks for your comment. I was afraid I´d get ignored again, like in other metal communities I posted this. 😅 I think it will really help me a lot in the long term. 👍

[runic adder]

sounds like a fun song

[kind blaze]

Have 2 ideas and milk em

You'd be surprised how far you can get with 2 basic riffs and embellish em here and there.

[native junco]

I feared as much. But I also fear that this will never become my style at all. Even if I do this I´m overflowing with ideas. 😅

[kind blaze]

More songs.

[daring sierra]

So there is no right way to cut it down and some of it depends on if its an instrumental or not.

If there are vocals, you need to always think about how it works with vocals. So sometimes a cool riff will either get tossed or just be an intro, because it doesnt work well with vocals or something.

But as far as limiting to below 5 mins, welllll some genres that is important, others its not. If you are doing doom sludge or some kinda progressive thing, songs over 5 mins are the norm. Though you do still have structure usually, so its not just riff salad.

I would say, pick the best few riffs, and make sure they are ones that complement each other (ie: dont all sound too similar, and can flow into each other) and make those the core of the song. Then if you want to have an intro/breakdown/outro, then that is fine. But the core 3 riffs will generally appear at least twice.

[runic adder]

Whitechapel - Vicer exciser is a fun song composition wise, at least for me. It literally goes:

Intro riff > Verse riff > Verse Variation/breakdown > breakdown variation > fast riff > fast riff variation/breakdown > breakdown > Outro riff > outro riff variation/breakdown

while that one is on the side of more riffs, most of the song came from variations of riffs they play

like @kind blaze said, have one or two good ideas, and just change them up slightly throughout

[daring sierra]

Yea, There are lots of ways to mess with variations. Like the main riff from the video i posted is one riff. But I made another riff that has a similar rhythmic element and so it is kinda just a variation of the other riff.

[kind blaze]

Also a good tip is the following...and I think especially metal guitarplayers would do good to learn this: write from chord progressions instead of 'riffs'

9 out of 10 times that stuff will turn into a salad.

[kind blaze]

Sounds very Devin Townsend

[runic adder]

I tend to write riffs from scales, but good chord progressions can take you pretty damn far

[daring sierra]

That riff and the other one I posted are rather similar, and so one can be a changeup of the other while feeling same-ish enough to be related

[kind blaze]

Like Deadhead.

Not as a rip off

But remniscient of that song

[daring sierra]

I write a lot from scales and then retroactively figure out what chords and progressions apply and then build out or tweak from there

[daring sierra]

Nice! I will have to listen to deadhead.

He is actually one of my favorite producers. He did Undoing Ruin and Deliver Us which were the albums that re-wrote how I write music

So that is a big compliment for me.

Gonna tell my guitar buddy someone said something I wrote sounded very Devin Townsend. So I got that going for me....which is nice.

https://tenor.com/view/which-is-nice-grounds-keeper-gif-23825505

[kind blaze]

Devin is awesome.

Its a good song too.

[daring sierra]

For sure. Super talented guy. And yea, I am listening to it now. Its great so far.

[native junco]

Vocals are one of the main things that go on in my head when I´m writing riffs. Even more than the drums. 😅 If the lyrics would not fit I would actually rewrite those instead of tossing any riffs ever. Guitar and drums are the main focus of songs and songwriting if anyone asks me. Everything else is just there to compliment those two things, and that even includes the vocals. But I guess everyone has a different opinion on that matter. 😅

Well I did not think my song was actually riff salad to begin with, or was it? 😳 I mean it still had the classic verse - chorus - structure didn´t it? 😱

[daring sierra]

I was gonna ask, do any of yall use Submithub? I have been trying it out and it seems pretty neat, though I know it does have an issue with some people just spamming "feedback" where they didnt really listen to the song and just said something generic so they could get more feedback on their music.

But there has been some useful stuff. But the most interesting thing has been the range of responses to some songs. Like one song has a pretty narrow range, like 60-80, and then another is all over the place with the low being a 30 and the high being a 100. Kinda crazy.

[daring sierra]

I didnt think it was riff salad, I was more responding to what you brought up discussion wise

And I will have to disagree. While I do love guitar and drums, if there are vocals, they are usually the "top-line" and are what the average listener cares about most.

Obviously as musicians our ear listens to other things more, but in terms of the average listener, the vocals are going to be the center piece.

Just think of it this way, a boring riff tends to not be a dealbreaker for a song. But if the vocals are boring, that shit is getting turned off

Hell, most chorus riffs are really quite basic/boring. But if the singer is killing it, you kinda dont care.

[native junco]

Ah thanks. I was just a little shocked there. 😅

[native junco]

Oh I actually do care

[daring sierra]

Sorry! lol. Was not my intent

[kind blaze]

Very old idea which I wanted to work out into an instrumental, but it had some basic riffs from which I think its possible to make a whole song.

[native junco]

and I always did tbh, not only since I´m a musician as well.

[kind blaze]

Here is something more recent

[daring sierra]

has a cool bluesy rock vibe man

[kind blaze]

Yeah, its very old. I think I recorded it with my first interface ever.

Had no clue how to mix

[native junco]

I just got a final question that might feel a little unneccesary to some but I still have to ask it. Did my stuff have any potential to be something good at all? 😅

[daring sierra]

I certainly love when a song has great riffs, but I think in terms of songwriting there are going to be riffs that are not bad, but are a tad basic. And that is because they tend to be a way to step back and allow another section to shine. Like the first video I posted has a classic aeolian vamp in the second half that is just a 1-7-6-7 progression. It is a super simple progression, but it sounds good and gives the vocalist a lot of room to shine. And of course I could spice it up with another guitar layer as well, but at its core it is super basic and, you could say, boring.

[kind blaze]

For sure.

[daring sierra]

Well yea. Potential is a tricky thing though. A lot of it is hard work and setting expectations for yourself and trying to define what is success for you.

Like if you are doing super proggy instrumentals, you likely will not get a lot of listeners and such, but as long as you enjoy it and find it fulfilling, that is what matters.

To give a personal example, I spent a solid chunk of change on the songs I have completed so that they could be songs I would be proud of. And I did a ton of work on them. Hell, my song Blue Bedlam was sitting around for over a year because it never quite felt right till I added some additional lead elements that improved the harmony of the song.

But despite spending good money to get a result that i was truly happy with, I sincerely did not expect any of my songs to even get 1k views/listens.

Thankfully they did get way more, but even from those results, I had no idea that the song Ghost In my Reflection would get 30k listens/views and a positive response. That song has a minute long instrumental/ambient intro that most feedback STRONGLY recommended against. lol. I certainly didnt think it would get 10 times the views that Blue Bedlam did.

Point is, you can work hard to grow and make ever better music. Take time to really learn and improve with focused effort so you can maximize your potential. And always make music YOU like. How many others like it will always be pretty dodgy. I think Spotify adds like 60,000 songs a day. So getting heard at all is tough. But as long as you make stuff you like, write your 8 minute epics!

Hell, I listened to the new "album" by Oak called Disintergrate. That "song" is 44 minutes long. But it is dope as fuck

[native junco]

To be frank about it I´m actually satisfied if there are at least two or three people out in the world that do like my stuff. Doesn´t even have to be more. There are so many artists out there that deserve it even much more than I ever could, especially because they are so much better at playing their instrument on a technical level than I could ever become in my whole life. So that´s that. 😅

[daring sierra]

And that is a good thing to have, but it can be tough to even know how many people like it at any given time. Sometimes people listen and like it, but dont leave a comment, like, or whatever and that is that. lol. Its tough when you release something to relative silence.

But Journey before Destination for any other book nerds out there.

[native junco]

Well I guess that´s the problem of todays art scene in general. Not only in music tbh.

[daring sierra]

Also, it can be helpful to be aware of what you arent good at. I cant sing, so any songs with vocals i have to pay a singer. Drums are also not my thing, so gotta get a drummer too. Mixing I have improved at, but I am certainly no pro.

Yea, art is tough. And you really make money off of things related to your art, not the art itself. Hence why "merchcore" is a thing

[kind blaze]

Also social media. But not many musicians are good at that I suppose.

I remember that Plini started out as a youtube musician and so did Misha Mansoor.

[daring sierra]

Social media is necessary to promote your music.

I had to make a Facebook and instagram because they are the best options to promote music

[native junco]

Well it´s also the thing I suck most at I guess. 🤣

[kind blaze]

Yeah I will be doing the same.

Currently Im working on 3 songs under a solo project name and I want to have some simple art work.

[daring sierra]

I also suck at it. I try to make steady posts that are related to my music. But the other thing is to sincerely engage with other artists.

[kind blaze]

The art work im In doubt whether Im gonna use AI generated work.

[native junco]

Oh you can get some at least useable results with AI.

[daring sierra]

I have made a point to sincerely seek out giving feedback and supporting other artists because how can I ask others to do such if I am not willing to as well. So I find artists I really like and make a point to support.

I found Mother of Graves and An Abstract Illusion that way.

[kind blaze]

Ive always played in bands with people with better connections so its gonna be a new thing for me.

But I have a lot of proggy instrumental ideas that seem to work in a song.

[daring sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-gif-26049397

[kind blaze]

I have good friend who is in a band and they take the complete opposite route and hire a full studio to record their stuff in one room.

[granite mist]

Im probably gonna re-record a couple guitar parts but I think it’s solid so far

[vapid eagle]

how tech alien

also i want this in my playlist already

[granite mist]

Thanks lol

[vapid eagle]

nah but fr how do you do the little techy bits

kinda like how currents does it

i like the little flair things and i can't figure out how to do it 💀

[granite mist]

It’s just a tapping lick

You can do it that way or just be a god and play a million notes at once

[vapid eagle]

that way > tapping forever

frfr

[inner sedge]

^^

[kind blaze]

Awesome stuff. Drums sound sweet as hell too, what are you using?

Especially dig that little syncopation at 2.10-2.15

[daring sierra]

What genres would you say this is? Metalcore? Progressive?

I am never sure about genres. It makes it hard to do a release and know who the target audience supposedly is

[inner sedge]

if unsure, prog metalcore is such a broad term it could mean anything

sounds cool tho!

[daring sierra]

I was considering that lol. The guitars are bot as high gain as usual, but still metal.

Thank you!

I wonder if I should have listed some of my other songs as prog 🤔. I do love long intros....

[kind blaze]

Plenty of gain to me. Vocals are awesome man.

[daring sierra]

I agree. Fits the song imo.

Thanks! That is a session vocalist named Secil Sen. She is amazing to work with. Pricy, but well worth it after I had some bad experiences.

[kind blaze]

How does it work? You present the vocallines yourself or the session vocalist comes up with the topline?

[daring sierra]

Depends on what you need.

In my case I wrote the lyrics and provided a "vocal pacing" file that had me do the lyrics over the song. But sung badly. Lol

But you can pay someone to write the lyrics and melody while also doing the vocals.

For my songs, I like writing lyrics so I always do that and the vocal melody. Also helps me settle on a structure for the song as the vocals should guide that imo.

I use session people for vocals (cause I can't sing) and drums (because my drums would be boring as hell).

I did use a session bassist on that song because I couldn't write something i liked. She did a great job on it.

[kind blaze]

Thats pretty cool. Do you also play live or intend to do so?

[daring sierra]

I do not play my new material live. While it would ve cool, it wouldn't really be feasible unfortunately.

But it's fine. I find the greatest joy in making music. Playing it is great and all, but touring honestly kinda sucks.

[timber yacht]

https://soundcloud.com/devinsaxon666/bloom-demo?si=50776e582e42480ebff4c0a410fee1ed&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing New Demo. let me know what ya think.

[timber yacht]

this is pretty cool. keep it up!

[granite mist]

Trying something I’ve never done before for this

[daring sierra]

Sounds pretty cool man. I enjoyed it

[daring sierra]

A cool little vibe there

[inner sedge]

so how's this? don't mind the riffs i've had a few beers and just wanted to see if i could match this

[mint acorn]

From a discussion in the guitar thread earlier about how to edit guitar vids, first one I did in proper format, how is it?

[daring sierra]

I think you did well!

More editing than I did in my video lol

[mint acorn]

Thank you so much!!

[inner sedge]

could you critique the thing i posted just before this

[daring sierra]

Try pulling the guitar volume down as the drums are way too quiet so I cant really critique your timing if that is what you are asking. Also remove the lead. It is out of tune as all hell. Got that beer tuning lol

[daring sierra]

If I can be direct, what are the specific things you are working on and want feedback on?

[inner sedge]

well, mostly the drum timing, cause that’s what y’all seemed to harp on the most with the last thing i posted

[inner sedge]

i tuned up right before i started recording so that’s probably an intonation issue 😬😬😬

[daring sierra]

If it is just drum timing, then removing the guitars would make it easy to hear.

[inner sedge]

well, guitars in timing with the drums*

[daring sierra]

Could also be some wrong notes clashing with the rhythm guitar.

[inner sedge]

maybe, yeah

the lead guitar was very much the beer talking

[daring sierra]

I would do metronome work first. or the drum equivalent like kick on 1 and 3, snare on 2 and 4 of a standard 4/4 beat.

Then start simple of just chug once per beat. Then play a different note per beat. And start slow and get it perfect.

[inner sedge]

i mean that’s basically what the opening 30s is 😅

[daring sierra]

I cant hear all the beats. Only a snare periodically so I cant fully say, but I would make sure there is a distinct drum hit on each beat

[inner sedge]

the guitar is only playing three beats out of four, the drums are playing all four beats

are they actually just that quiet? they seemed fine when i listened back

[daring sierra]

I cant make the kick out at all except at a couple random points

[inner sedge]

ok thats really odd cause i can make it out just fine on a few different audio devices

[daring sierra]

I can hear it ok in my headphones but it is still quiet relative to the guitar

Go listen to a song and hear how the kick and snare sounds relative to the guitars, then listen to what you posted

As for the timing, in the first 30 seconds its fine. the second half is to chaotic for me to tell you lol

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/good-yes-emperor-palpatine-star-wars-excellent-gif-16144278

thats a lot better

could i hear the isolated drums? i want to hear whats happening at 0:27, like mark said the guitars are a little loud

[inner sedge]

sure gimme a sec

[kind blaze]

If youre alright with some feedback from my hand: the groove starting from around 0.30 is a bit unrealistic from a drummers perspective. Its basically impossible playing that tomgroove while at the same time dictating the groove on the ride like that.

At least with only 2 upper limbs.

[inner sedge]

i hire my drummers from outside the solar system

but fair point, i will change that

[kind blaze]

Haha alright. I think its fine if thats what you are going for though.

Theres quite some bands that dont necessarily go for a realistic sound, but if it is what you wanna go for its something to take into account.

[inner sedge]

i mean what im going for is realistic programmed drumming so if it's not realistic then

imma ditch it

[kind blaze]

The plus side is also that it will generally provide cleaner drum parts.

What software are you using for drums @inner sedge ?

[inner sedge]

i'm using perfect drums cause it was free and didn't have weird random restrictions on actually using the software

and the kit is called the "restrains kit"

[kind blaze]

Ah I think from what Ive heard its a pretty good vst

I should try it out too

[inner sedge]

my guitar teacher is always impressed with the drums

given that they're free

[kind blaze]

Definitely sounds good for free drum sampling.

[inner sedge]

i mean apparently it's what an actual band put together for an album and then released for free

so yeah

[runic adder]

I see that you're trying to go for one of those quick kick hit into snare things

idk how to describe it uhh

[inner sedge]

yeah the like

[runic adder]

that thing at exactly 0:26

[inner sedge]

yeah i think we’re on the same page

[runic adder]

yah do 32nd notes on the kick

[inner sedge]

[runic adder]

you only need 4

[inner sedge]

should they be back to back

like four in a row 32nds

[runic adder]

you could either do two 16th notes or four 32nd notes

yuh

[inner sedge]

got it

i will try that soon then

[runic adder]

even as a second rate drummer those are a decently easy double kick trick

especially if you can double stroke the kick

(I wish I could)

[cloud mango]

Apart from the minor hiccups, the video sems great

[runic adder]

but yeah that tom groove is a bit impossible, I'd advise you to try and imagine how many hands would be needed for a certain groove, and if it's more than two, probably edit it

[inner sedge]

y’all are gonna shit bricks when the actual drummer i hire is straight outta Pripyat and has enough hands for all of this

but yeah no, definitely need to change that haha

[granite mist]

possibly a banger? Idk this is kinda different than stuff i normally do

[steady mason]

I’m gonna post this here for criticism (as a person who’s been doing vocals for maybe a month)

[daring sierra]

I think it's pretty dope. If you were releasing it as a single I would probably suggest shortening the intro or making it build a bit more. But I think k it sounds great as is.

[daring sierra]

Sounds fine. There is a vocals channel as well that may have people better suited for feedback since I can barely talk right, let alone sing or scream

[steady mason]

Ah alrighty. Thanksb

!*

[granite mist]

Do you think the production and mix sound fine? I’m not sure if it does

[iron cloak]

got inspired by northlane and did some trance riffs mixed with low tuned scoop guitars. it's still midi guitars and all over the place but any of this has potential?

[daring sierra]

I haven't listened on proper speakers so i can't say. Seemed fine on my first listen but my phone doesn't really got low end lol

[real harness]

Hi guys. I've written another demo and used a new editing program. Mix might be a bit boomy, but I still hope to receive some feedback on this.
https://youtu.be/Hp1gZjCgCeI

[hidden halo]

Spent few hours on this metalcore-esque demo and thought it was pretty cool. So far its in an early stage and will probably have a lot changed. Any feedback on the mix, composition, etc? Also, any guesses on the inspiration? (Not my pfp)

Here's a video version for mobile

[crystal wind]

YOOOO THIS IS SICK

I can't tell if those drums are programmed or real but either way they're crazy good

🫡🫡🫡

https://open.spotify.com/track/7xdjJ8LFr4jPyoA5aLzgW7?si=b_NIJqhORAeMAthoHwuGUw

New ultra heavy trap metal song

[proven berry]

the synth lead is way too loud and guitars need more presence

but thats fire

[gritty tartan]

Really like the strings 🤯

[hidden halo]

They are programmed, definitely! I wish I had that kind of skill lmao 😂 glad you liked it

[hidden halo]

Was thinking that, thanks for the feedback

[hidden halo]

Thank you! The strings were what I got in my head first then I just wrote everything around it.

[mint acorn]

Not super stoked with the ending of this, but the starting riff omg I can’t believe I did that lol

[shut herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LwdrdjK4hk any feedback would be appreciated. also idek what genre this is

[swift slate]

something i made this afternoon with my uncle, it's not mixed and some parts needs rerecording cuz it's not very on time plus we didn't took much time on the recording as much as i do when i'm alone

also it's not the drums i usually use so it will change since it's the ones my uncle uses

[pale lichen]

I’m in a band call all hail the amber alert and it’s a hardcore beat down type band and we recorded on GarageBand on my phone and I was wondering what y’all think I’m the drummer and vocalist

[vivid adder]

I like it alot!! Sounds great

[kind blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5cdlEQBe3k This is an experimental thing I made a while ago. Wayyyy too much gain, but killer riff

[vapid eagle]

@shadow elbow dw i gotchu

[shadow elbow]

thanks man

[vapid eagle]

ofc

[shadow elbow]

Mediocre guitar tone, any tips to make it better?

[runic adder]

It’s alright

Lower the gain a little and you should be fine

[blissful cliff]

Can I get some feedback on this?

Particularly the guitar tone and the drum programming.

And the overall mixing

[daring sierra]

Early on the ride or whatever that is keeping tempo is a touch loud.

The rhythm guitar tone is fine, is there is particular style/sound you are going for?

The drum programming is fine, but not exceptional. But it does not detract or anything. Certainly better than what I can do loo

[blissful cliff]

The style is supposed to be kinda nu metal, maybe like Disturbed.

[daring sierra]

Then I think the tone works

[blissful cliff]

Awesome thanks!

[hollow tulip]

some wip remake of an old metal project i made about 2 years ago i think

[pale lichen]

Thank youuuuu do much

[real harness]

Hey bois, I've just finished my demo, decided to upload again. I think it's quiet good, but not my best project. But I'm still interested in your opinions on it)
https://youtu.be/FjxyD8adCdw

[blissful cliff]

A collab project with one of my rap music friends

Opinions? Thoughts?

[fathom jewel]

the amity affliction first draft

[hollow tulip]

💀

[hollow tulip]

a wip metal remix of Reisen U. Inaba's theme "Lunatic Eyes ~ Invisible Full Moon" from Touhou 8: Imperishable Night

i may have put in too much in some sections

[fathom jewel]

programmed guitar couldnt sound any cooler

[real harness]

https://youtu.be/3P6r7s4IsDY I've finally fixed the issue with my audio, and decided to reupload the demo. Hope you'll like it.

[vapid eagle]

😭

[mint acorn]

https://youtu.be/OTrfm0gIjao

Ok I uploaded the full version after all the feedback you guys gave me! Let me know anything I should fix for the next one!

I definitely want to add different angles in the future

[runic adder]

Does this sound like it's peaking/clipping anywhere?

[rustic dirge]

Rate my 578 riff

[runic adder]

the reactions 💀

[runic adder]

it's good though

you should try to expand it into a song imo

[swift slate]

i made this during vacation as the file name says lmao with my uncle as an audio engineer for the recording process then when i came back home i did all the production mix and master but idk about the master tho and i changed a few things on my mixing too

[rustic dirge]

Haha

[rustic dirge]

Thanks I will try to expands it to a song it might take a while because I never made a song

[robust thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUlvn5rHOk

Bands new song

[granite mist]

Just a corekid making edm

[fringe geode]

The first of the mutli-short song series Break the Glass

[daring sierra]

Sounds good man. Will they all be instrumentals?

[fringe geode]

I don't really have a singer so maybe. I might use that SynthV software that has voice banks that's basically an AI singer. I already have Break the Glass II already done.

[daring sierra]

Could be worth a try if you already have some vocals in mind. For my "main" releases I have to use a session vocalist, but I get the song just the way I want so its worth it to me.

[fringe geode]

The second part of the multi-short song series Break the Glass and the first one to ever be completed.

@daring sierra

[daring sierra]

I like it overall. Listening on my phone the beginning was a bit noisy, but could just be phone speakers.

[fringe geode]

I quad tracked BtG II while a double tracked BtG I. I also a different supporting amp on II than I.

On I, I used a Mark IIC+ and SLO-100.

On II, I used a Mark IIC+ as the main with a Rev F Rectifier for the presence and upper frequencies.

[fresh bay]

https://youtu.be/tO_lb7Ht2rg?si=VThpM3O54yTYFGo3
I have no idea where to drop this, but this was funny to make 🤣

[rotund tangle]

Sup guys, so I wrote a song long ago and released it. It had this very emotional bridge as the last part of the song.

I'm clawing my way through the chaos
I'm on my hands and knees
I'm screaming and I'm shouting
But no one hears my pleas
The demon drink it calls my name
Im drowning in my own addiction
Somebody stop this bottle’s call

Can i get an opinion on my lyrics?

[inner sedge]

#📜-lyrics-or-poetry might help you out as well

[rotund tangle]

Oh, thanks)

[swift slate]

so i made this idk what to really think about it

[runic adder]

covering hollow bodies with a friend of mine, though he isn't doing any vocals until the instrumental is complete

riff is a little sloppy because I just moved into my college dorm and forgot all of my picks, and used a random starbucks gift card I had in my wallet

[fathom jewel]

you slowed down lol, its fast technical riff so it makes sense

[fathom jewel]

also I challenge you to make an entire EP with starbucks gift card as your pick

also in the lofi intro the drums were chopped up and arranged like a break loop with a lot glitch effects in the original

[crystal stag]

really like this! only critique I would have is that the intro seems a little slow and disconnected from the rest of it

[swift slate]

well i just finished the track

so if you want you can do a feedback on the whole thing

[kind blaze]

You used Archetype Petrucci by any means?

[swift slate]

yes

[kind blaze]

Sounds good 👍

[swift slate]

it's a preset made by allt

[kind blaze]

Where did you find it?

[swift slate]

on their video playthrough of paralyzed on neuralDSP's channel where it shows the presets

i can give you the preset files

[crystal stag]

that's sick, was wondering where you were going to go with it for what I guess is the chorus at 1:51 compared to the first version - structure is good, nice reuse of sections/elements in a way that doesn't come across as repetitive or redundant - the intro riff coming back at 3:30 works really well though I do think the riff itself is just a little bit bare (or maybe just a bit too treble?) so while that's obviously a section where you're changing the energy of the song, it slightly dumps a bit of the momentum you had up to that point (vocal layers could totally make up for that though). All in all, great track. I would love to hear it with vocals

[kind blaze]

Yeah, Im kinda digging that rhythm tone a lot. I usually use Archetype Plini, but I do think the Petrucci Archetype overall is a bit more natural sounding.

[swift slate]

yea needs vocal and more like impacts and synths to add

[kind blaze]

Its just a bit tougher to get that mid focussed tone, due to it being based on a Mark II

[crystal stag]

it's a totally solid track at this point though, really well done

[kind blaze]

For sure is cool stuff.

[swift slate]

here you have the 3 tones from the NeuralDSP video with allt

wtf

[kind blaze]

Lol

[swift slate]

i think it shows what's inside since it's xml lmao

[kind blaze]

I can still download them 🥲

Yeah

Thanks man!

[swift slate]

but if you download it and put them in C:\ProgramData\Neural DSP\Archetype Petrucci\User and it should work

[kind blaze]

Yeah it will.

Thanks!

[swift slate]

also it's on the longer side of what i usually make

[kind blaze]

Also the drums sound quite sweet.

I really like the kick.

[swift slate]

there is this one i made during vacations this one has a mix and mastering on it tho that is more of what i usuallt do

[kind blaze]

Honestly like the mix on the other one a bit bitter ngl

[swift slate]

yea it's the matt helpern sig of GGD

[kind blaze]

Damn, sounds sick!

[swift slate]

the other one has no mix

[kind blaze]

Sounds warmer than the mastered track.

Which sounds a lil harsh in the upper frequencies

[crystal stag]

love that I can totally hear your style across both tracks

[swift slate]

i also have this one i made before going on vacations

and this one is on the shorter side of what i do lmao

[kind blaze]

Br00tz

[swift slate]

and way more hardcore sounding

[crystal stag]

haha again this totally sounds like your style, that's awesome - just heavier - those three tracks totally sound like they'd go on the same record

[swift slate]

haha funny enough i'm trying to make one so currently i'm learning vocals to put on my track but yea it's hard

[crystal stag]

it sure is, I'm hearing melodies and phrases but I could not do those tracks justice - definitely want to hear the finished product though, sign me up to your newsletter 😂

[inner sedge]

this one gives me some real deathcore vibes

very carcosa & psycho-frame

[swift slate]

tbh i have like 20ish tracks made lmao

[inner sedge]

i do have a track i've been working on but it hardly sounds as structured as yours

[swift slate]

actually 24 tracks lmao

[inner sedge]

still learning how to actually write songs

[swift slate]

well i've been writing tracks for like 5 years now i think

[inner sedge]

yeah

that's definitely an advantage

im more like 5 weeks lol

[crystal stag]

i sat down with my band at the weekend to upload our new album and we wrote like frickin 6 new songs - we're drowning in material

good feeling though

[swift slate]

to be fair my 1st tracks were kinda cringe and for some reason sounded major being in a minor key idk how

[crystal stag]

oooh share it when you can!

[inner sedge]

yeah im gonna do that now i suppose

[swift slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSU7VYEWTzU also this is the last track i released atm and it's a bit over a year old so the mix was not that great but not that bad either but the drums tbh are kinda shit

[inner sedge]

well i say "now" but i listen back and there's already a part i want to redo so uhh

[crystal stag]

all good! 🙂

[crystal stag]

yeah the mix is much better in the other ones you shared - though this isn't terrible - the track sounds a good deal more repetitive than the others too, though perhaps with an improved mix the other elements might shine more - my least favourite of the four, but still competent - wouldn't turn it off 🙂

[swift slate]

yea i improved a lot since then lmao

both in writing and production

[crystal stag]

Home recorded this album with my band and we were ballsy (aka dumb) enough to put it on spotify - any feedback appreciated - https://open.spotify.com/album/1YixptRUWODRzelqjSh0jJ?si=QiBcoLz0TLWOBoaEkElW9Q

[swift slate]

for some reason i hear a bit of trivium on some of them

as far as i can listen through the embed

[inner sedge]

lmao i hear it too now that you point it out

it's the clean vocals

anyways uhhh, with the knowledge that i am still incredibly new to just about everything i'm doing here except playing guitar, here's what i've been working on the past few weeks

[runic adder]

I’m aware. Closest I can do is bitcrushed drums

[crystal stag]

i would take that as a compliment, my bandmates not so much 😂 but thank you! 🙂

[inner sedge]

i mean personally i love trivium (i love ibaraki more) so i would give it as a compliment

[kind blaze]

Gotta record the guitars with a click my friend.

[inner sedge]

a hwat

[kind blaze]

Metronome.

[inner sedge]

ah

[kind blaze]

The riffs miss the context of the drums now, because they are not properly aligned/played in time.

[swift slate]

yea a click is very much needed

[crystal stag]

i like the guitar tone, though it's a bit muddy for a good mix - there are some good ideas in here, but at the moment it sounds like a very disjointed mess. that can work really well, but it needs to be really intentional and you need to know the guidelines of songwriting in order to be able to make disjointed stuff sound good. I'd recommend focusing on 3-4 specific riffs/sections and using those to make something small and focused and then just iterate on that to make it sound good. there's like 500 different methods for approaching it - but definitely don't be discouraged

[swift slate]

i was kinda like this before and used the drums as a metronome instead as the real one but now i have both at the same time and it improved my playing a lot and particularly for recording

[inner sedge]

still working on the guitar tone, i'm using archetype abasi and i'm finding that the noise gate on it isn't particularly good so im also trying to just find a good preset instead

as for disjointed mess and off time... yeah

like i said idk much about this so i'm just trying to do riffs + choruses, and i figured since the programmed drums would be on time i could go off them

[kind blaze]

Its possible though. What I generally do is I first record the guitar parts to a click and than program the drums tot the guitar parts and than re-record the guitars to the drums again. Sometimes I dont really know the time signature so during my first record I dont accent the 1's on my metronome and just look in my DAW what the time signature turns out to be.

[swift slate]

i usually try to make 4:4 in general from an idea i record without any drums

[crystal stag]

it's really interesting the way the "normal" process changes for people who are writing and recording at the same time. normal situations in a recording session the song would be written already so you would start with the drums and the bass and then lay guitars, keys and vocals over those - but as Don says above when you're doing it yourself the process is quite different and tends to be guitar first, then drums and bass

[swift slate]

and most of the times my tracks comes from a random thing i do when i'm jamming alone while watching videos lmao

[kind blaze]

Yeah I try to do the same, except when I feel omitting a beat or adding one makes it worse.

[swift slate]

i remember i made in intro in 9:8 recently

[inner sedge]

yeah, i do wonder if i might do a lot better with it being already written or if i had an actual band that could help bounce ideas around and also do stuff i'm not so great at like drums, bass, production etc

[kind blaze]

9/8 feels so weird while playing.

[swift slate]

leme find the track in my countless cubase files lmao

[kind blaze]

I think its just a matter of practicing with a metronome and you will be able to record your guitar tracks to a metronome. Programming drums is not that hard once you have that down to be honest.

Since a 'basic' beat always tends to work once you at least have your guitar parts in time.

[swift slate]

ok found it here it is only the intro is in 9:8 everything else is in 4:4

[kind blaze]

Slaps.

[swift slate]

the only i ssue i might have on this track is the chorus that might be kinda too far off the rest

[kind blaze]

Would be cool if you could try and let that intro return somewhere in the tune.

[swift slate]

i tried and it never fit

[kind blaze]

Too bad. I dig the vibe of that intro a lot.

[swift slate]

tho i love the breakdown of that one and the alt chorus just after

[crystal stag]

yeah i can empathise there, i never seem to get far with my own material but we're drowning in largely finished songs with the band - sometimes it is just more effective to have a few brains to bounce ideas around - a great thing i've found is to mess around with covers - if you use a DAW like reaper you can find guitar pro tabs online, download them, open them with TuxGuitar, export the drums and bass to MIDI, import the midi to the DAW and then put your vsts against those and record on top of them - instant backing track, and then you can focus on recording the guitar, getting used to production side of things etc...

[swift slate]

Btw this is the beast i used for all the tracks you heard except the one on YT since i got this guitar back in may

[inner sedge]

where can i find this tuxguitar

[crystal stag]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxguitar/

[inner sedge]

thank you i will take a look at this

[swift slate]

i was about to say it's easy to find on google

[runic adder]

I got as close as I can with actual drums and a bitcrusher, I don't know sound design or have glitch effects lol

[runic adder]

slowed? I thought that was the bpm?

[hollow tulip]

a metal remix of Kaguya Houraisan's theme
did i overdo the taiko percussions a little bit

[swift slate]

ok so i made a few modifications of the track

[real harness]

It's my first time recording myself playing a guitar solo in a long time and first time publishing it. So, I'm really interested in your feedback again)

https://youtu.be/49Ox8BFBrDQ

and btw I know that my timing can be a bit off, but I think it's ok, considering that I improvised the solo

[spare sundial]

just some good ol chunk

[tawdry eagle]

Fucks the fuck out of the meaning of fuck

Hahahaha

[hollow tulip]

le update

[kind blaze]

Nice man! Your timing was only a bit off in the end, but nothing too bad when improvising I'd say. Try to discover the rest of the fretboard so you can expand your lick vocabulary. You already know how to keep it melodic so thats a big plus!

[blissful cliff]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=uPaeCfLT8BY&feature=share

Feedback appreciated!

[swift slate]

something i just made pretty cool imo but feedback is appreciated

[swift slate]

ok so since the last time i finished recodring it

[twin timber]

hi

i slapped this together in ableton in like 45 minutes

what do yall think, im not posting it, its just some fun

[gleaming haven]

Lorna Shore type chorus

[wooden tulip]

this is sick, reminds me a bit of thy art is murder, frostbitt and old northlane all put together

i feel like the snare is a bit muted, maybe a bit of reverb/slightly high-end boost on the snare. musically speaking its sounds great to me, love the atmosphere throughout as well

not much to fault

[swift slate]

well there is no mix so yea not everything would sounds good

but to be fair i don't listen to much of thy art frostbitt or old northlane lmao

maybe 1 track here and there but that's pretty much it lmao

and used more of an HLB and Allt inspiration lmao

[daring sierra]

My new song, Orphan, is out now! It has a music/lyric video as well! Let me know what you think!

https://youtu.be/AaH_05uj_20?si=48YFUJYqdVbEkxV6

[void cape]

Everything is rough but are the parts coherent? Should I cut the breakdownish verse and write something else?

[swift slate]

i tried making a raid alert for my streams and chose to do this breakdown and for the 1st time actually record properly a scream if you don't understand the talking at the beginning it's normal it's french lmao just need some feedback on the whole thing itself either vocal/guitar/drums/production wise

also it's in drop D1

[gritty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/feeling-it-nik-nocturnal-head-bang-jamming-nodding-to-the-music-gif-21100931

Literally me ^ @swift slate

[swift slate]

Coming from the PlayStation madman compositor it's an honor

[gritty tartan]

I'm sorry I don't have anything of use to say though 😂, it doesn't sound muddy or all over the place, I don't know anything about production 😔

[swift slate]

I mean if you enjoyed it its the important part

[gritty tartan]

Sounds coherent to me, maybe make that guitar like ambience instead and write a different riff to switch things up at 0:37 - 1:04

[fringe geode]

The third part of multi-short song series Break the Glass. It's finally done. Idk if I should expand on this one or not.

[blissful cliff]

How does my mix sound? I'd like some input!

[crisp tangle]

Hey guys. I've been trying to compose a metal instrumental track using just vsts. Haven't finished it yet but please let me know if it sounds decent and where i can improve.

[twin timber]

@crisp tangle turn up the drums a litrle

[swift slate]

ok so i decided to make a full version of the breakdown i sent yesterday lmao

[runic adder]

little deathcore (:

I'm on a mission to convert suncrusher from metalcore to deathcore rn

[red gale]

Our first song released https://open.spotify.com/track/4Fbz7cGq1ye6GEKZPNKVez?si=naEfVyfATeGi72u9Fz9Amw
Hope you like it😁

[runic adder]

That’s sick

[fathom steppe]

I love screaming

I suck though

[tawdry eagle]

Oh yeah but your going for a higher pitched scream though

[fathom steppe]

Yeah I also can’t breathe very well cause im sick💀

[tawdry eagle]

Oh that's fine

[thin dock]

ik that there is some parts that the drums are off time but ill fix that, that what i got now

[kind blaze]

Could be tuned lower.

[fathom jewel]

british is danny, sentence make I cannot

[thin dock]

fr

We thall

[thin dock]

Double drop G#

[swift slate]

ok so i made this riff and tried building something around and starts pretty good imo

[fathom jewel]

if you would like more interesting drum parts I can give some suggestions

1. Play with metric modulation
2. Add some polyrhythmic pattern over the more empty parts when going halftime on the breakdown

[opal wave]

hello friends, would love opinions on this demo i’ve released on soundcloud. i think it’s good but i would like to get more opinions lol https://on.soundcloud.com/nCFMFG6xgcdcRRRp8

[granite mist]

in progress thingy i'd like some feedback on ^

[fathom jewel]

kick is slightly pokey and louder in the mix imo, what drum vst is this

the cymbal has very short release time

[vapid eagle]

How does this sound overall? i know there's some cuts that aren't very clean, but ignoring that, how does it sound

[stiff girder]

https://youtu.be/UD_YBHAMPUg

Hey everyone! Demo of a new single, my vocals aren't great, looking to get a real singer on it soon.

[stiff girder]

Cool idea, you mean in terms of production? Guitar is single track mono? You might know this already but you could double track and pan them right and left. Drums are dry, saturation, parallel compression, reverb could be added. Not a pro or anything but those are the tips I know.

[vapid eagle]

The guitar is on different tones panned different ways. There’s two tracks on both layers with two tones split between

[crisp tangle]

Total Born of Osiris vibes

I finally completed my instrumental using Midi VSTs. Would appreciate some feedback.

[kind blaze]

I believe I have just made clock metal. Heavy meshuggah influence but more bells

[swift slate]

i made a menu loop for a game i play and it ended up kinda darko like

it's in drop C1 btw

[kind blaze]

Nvm i 100% made clock metal

[mint acorn]

Hey guys looking for@some feedback on this edit, been playing with busses and mixing a bit more lately

I also think I suck at lining the audio up with the video I get more frustrated doing video takes than the guitar tracking itself hahah

[wooden tulip]

that sounds sickkkkkk

[hollow ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVrrrwQc0w

[hollow tulip]

a wip remix thing of alice margatroid's boss theme

[dreamy geyser]

trying to make ambient

[swift slate]

so i made a full version of the menu loop i sent the other day cuz it was so good and kinda darko like and i felt like i had to finish it it needs some polish on the ambients and drums as well

[rocky viper]

Hey guys,
Me and my band just released a new single!
Do check it out, we'd be grateful!

Spotify : https://open.spotify.com/track/04UOx6BXQaHJEiWLoV0tT3?si=2ce7c624b15443a0

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAQm-evcNPw

[fathom jewel]

the only thing need after polishing is a monstrous voice like tomtom barbie

[swift slate]

well that's something i don't have

[fathom jewel]

just rawr

[fathom jewel]

what do you think of this guitar tone?

[swift slate]

not the tone i'd go for myself but pretty cool tbh

it kinda has a jinjer vibe tho

[fathom jewel]

what tone would you go for

[swift slate]

pretty much the one i used in the last audio i sent but it's just my personal preference

[fathom jewel]

was it archetype gojira again

[swift slate]

for me it's petrucci

[fathom jewel]

oh nice you got upgrades

[swift slate]

and acutally the distortion comes from fabfilter saturn and not the archetype itself tho

i had petrucci before gojira and only did the 14 days trial on the goijra one

[fathom jewel]

so you just used cabs from it to tame the saturn distortion?

[swift slate]

but the tone i have was made by the Allt boiz

i used the tone i got from Allt disabled the OD and placed a saturn before the archetype

saturn kinda acts like my OD/distortion pedal

because i have an issue with the petrucci OD

it has the dendency to have a LOT of high noise when a note gets a bit long like 3s+

saturn helps me lower that

[fathom jewel]

saturn ftw

[swift slate]

got that trick from the madman buster himself

from his videos on URM

[fathom jewel]

going for a dgd vibe

[swift slate]

ok so i made a few adjustments on the ambiance added a bit of melody here and there with synths but still need to find good impacts cuz sometimes the heavy starts but it's kinda underwhelming

particularly right at the begining

[night chasm]

I know it’s difficult but is there any way you might could compose a metal melody for a set of lyrics I have , it’s all I’ve got and frankly I know almost nothing about composition or musical theory

[fathom jewel]

you can add a sub drop as well along with the impact if you want a punchier start

and also that china cymbal is super loud and because of that overheads are dominating the entire mix

[swift slate]

that's what i thought as well

also the main issue i have rn is to find the right impacts that's don't take too much place but sill do their job

[fathom jewel]

you can create your own impacts, like a snare bomb for example

short and punchy, dont hog up the mix

thats actually how darko's self titled album's first song starts

splinter cell
https://youtu.be/GFFnJyW0tiY?t=23

[swift slate]

i have this which has a few impacts mainly at the breakdown at 4 min and 5:13

[fathom jewel]

the china hits sound the loudest in the mix again? try to not always keep the midi at 127 velocity

and which drum library is this, I kinda like the sound of that china. Is it the first GGD halpern library?

[swift slate]

yes

and the china should be randomized between 95 and 105

i also plan to get the invasion one at some point

[vapid eagle]

P5 😩

[swift slate]

ok so i added some impacts/risers and bass sub drops

[hoary heart]

Here's me dicking around my mom wanted to see me play the new guitar as well played on that little amp it can't handle much but eh kinda fun I guess.

I'm coming up on a year and a half of playing guitar.

[fathom jewel]

you should definitely get it, it sounds very nice

[swift slate]

i mainly want the invasion one cuz it has much more cymbals and toms than the helpern sig

[fathom jewel]

ok thats a valid reason

[wooden tulip]

drop b metal breakdown (buildup at 1:41) in an otherwise normal newwave indie rock track

[swift slate]

a riff i just made noodling around with my 6 string since i haven't touched it in a while because of my 7 string

[gleaming haven]

Old school type deathcore in drop F (I know the solo is bad it's my first time trying)

[swift slate]

the guitars sounds like you threw them into a bitcrusher to destroy the sound lmao

[gleaming haven]

I was trying to make a feedback sound but couldn’t find any good sound fx to add

I’m using programmed guitars so I can’t make it manually lol

[kind blaze]

rate my metal riff

[blissful cliff]

It's good, but it's not really metal

more punk rock

I'm getting Green Day vibes

[crisp tangle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/56GZ9AFsfQuRSeuI7OIgdH?si=IQ3aaU9aRMmscM1stK5xiw&utm_source=native-share-menu

My latest single is out now. Feedbacks are welcome. Thank you!

https://youtu.be/G_4rcjmZHPE?si=Owk3p-7ZDOZ-OMyb

Youtube link.

[fathom jewel]

Bluecat acoufiend is your friend

[fathom jewel]

I like the warm tone but reverb on rhythm guitars is not helping, didnt know unholy confessions could go this hard in rop c 🤘

[gleaming haven]

Here is my silly attempt at brutal deathcore

I was kind of trying to sound like old Infant Annihilator

[fathom jewel]

what guitar vst is this , I wanna try it

[gleaming haven]

I'm just using Soundtrap right now, I think the specific vst is called Mountain Lead

[faint thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGSThWfozCQ Are the impacts in this too over the top? Or not over the top enough?

[spice arch]

I got a track I did a bit ago I wouldn't mind some input on. I'm not a vocalist so there's no vox. I'm getting slightly better with Eq-ing metal guitars but I have a ways to go before getting a good sound. Enjoy and tell me what ya think.

[runic adder]

love these drums sm

[twin timber]

what do you guys think

[vapid eagle]

it's good, but the tone feels off

not enough high end maybe?

idk

riff is cool though

[swift slate]

omg it's clipping sooooo hard and it's so loud too try to lower your input cuz rn it destroys the sound

[vapid eagle]

yeah

that

[spice arch]

It takes a while to figure out EQ. If you're not schooled in it it's a pain to figure out

I'm far from awesome at it but I'm getting better

I love grabbing random soundclips and making them sound cool

[vapid eagle]

goes hard

[keen sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MGWYLUeXQg

song i've been working on for a while

[radiant halo]

What do you guys think so far?

[quasi trellis]

yo i wrote these few riffs but i cant get any drums to sound good with them can someone please help pretty please with a cherry on top 🥺

[swift slate]

what is the BPM so i can try to make something

as well as time signatures if you have them

[fathom jewel]

This could go with any counterkit blastbeat midi

[quasi trellis]

200bpm and 4/4 sig

[swift slate]

so this is the drums i came up with idk if this is the style of drums you were seeking for the riffs but i tried to make something coherent with the guitars

@quasi trellis

[quasi trellis]

Damn that sounds sick thx man

[keen sage]

alternative to consider:

it's pretty sloppy in that the accents aren't perfectly aligned and i didn't realize it went on for four more measures until i was exporting, but ya. it's basically if this was supposed to be the intro to a song

WIP

[sweet orchid]

can someone please give me some overall feedback on this one? idk, there's something i really don't like about it, i can't figure out what exactly (btw, please don't ask about the name lmao) ofc it's still work in progress

[swift slate]

the thing that can bother the most to me would be the guitar tone and maybe the difference in timings between the left and right side of the guitars if the issue is about the guitar tone it could be the bass tone related and not exclusively guitar tone related

also i've made a metal cover of an electro track largely used in the game geometry dash i still need to modify a few things and it's basically done the original is by F-777 btw

[sweet orchid]

thanks, gonna try make some changes

[sweet orchid]

sounds dope!

[swift slate]

the issue can still be somewhere else for your perspective but you can still try to tweak stuff on the guitar and bass tone

[sweet orchid]

i definitely will

[swift slate]

it could also be the difference in timing between the left and right guitar if so you will have to either edit the current recordings or rerecord the tracks

[sweet orchid]

yeah, that's a little problem there, I'm recording this with a little delay, makes it hard to nail sadly

[swift slate]

even the slightest difference in timing between the 2 sides can disturb if your ear is getting used to recording producing and mixing metal music or double tracked instruments in general

[sweet orchid]

i think imma have to edit them

[swift slate]

i do a fck ton of edits on my recordings but try to keep the thing to feel human in the end cuz if you edit too much it will start to sound robotic or programmed

and your issue can also be the drums being programmed and timed exactly to the grid in opposition to the guitars that are actually played

[sweet orchid]

makes sense, could humanizing help there? like using the inbuild tools to make them less accurate?

[swift slate]

it's what i do i use cubase and i've made an algorythm with the built in tools to randomize the velocity between a min and a max velocity and as for the timing i used the quantize tool with the a set amount of "error" it can gives to the notes

[sweet orchid]

yeah, i'm using reaper and when you press h there you can enter some percentages and everything gets randomly shifted by a bit

[swift slate]

yea i know a bit of reaper and before i got the artist version of cubase i actually used reaper to humanize my drums

[sweet orchid]

would humanizing the timings also help? i guess so because it's the timings that sound off the most

[swift slate]

humanize both the velocities and the timing is important and for the velocity it's better if you can do a bit of tweaking afterwards if you have particular expressions you want from the drums such as a snare that is supposed to be hit very hard at a particualr moment

[sweet orchid]

makes sense, gonna try all of that, thanks for your help

[swift slate]

np i've been tweaking stuff on music recodring and production for like 2-3 years and what i do is getting better every new tracks and every new production techniques it's still nowhere near a professional producer or mix/master engineer but i try my best and you can still ask me if you need help or ask questions

and to be fair the early stuff is

[sweet orchid]

i've now been trying to do all this for like half a year ig and i have to say the beginnings were not that great

relatable

[swift slate]

i'm cringing so hard on this one but it's almost 4 years old so i guess my playing is better and my gear too lmao

the timings are horrible

[sweet orchid]

the progress is all that counts

[swift slate]

i mean yea it get me to where i am now and i'm pretty happy with what i do tbh

[sweet orchid]

the oldest one i got on this pc

[swift slate]

still better than the one i just sent

[sweet orchid]

you don't wanna know how the first one i ever made sounds

sadly i don't have it anymore

"sadly"

btw, could it be that my pitchshifter makes the guitar tone bad?

[swift slate]

this wasn't even the 1st one i've ever made too lmao

the 1sts sounded major being in a minor key like wtf

[sweet orchid]

lmao

[sweet orchid]

is that possible?

[swift slate]

it could yes

[sweet orchid]

hm ok thanks

[swift slate]

this one was made entirely with a whammy DT a -6 semi tones and still managed to get a good tone on the guitars probably not the best but still good tbh

[sweet orchid]

imagine having a whammy dt, i'm using pitchproof vst thing

[sweet orchid]

holy shit, that's heavy

[swift slate]

i mean the whammy DT is probably one of the best detune tools that exist

yea it's supposed to be kinda like Darko US so yea it's heavy

[sweet orchid]

i don't wanna spend money on stuff like a whammy dt yet, even though i've been wanting one for the last like three months or so

[sweet orchid]

yeah, darko rips

[swift slate]

yea and whammy DTs got more expensive than when i got mine

i remember i got it for 175€ and it's like 225€ now i think

oh MB

[sweet orchid]

holy crap

[swift slate]

it's the price in france it can still be cheaper in other countries

[sweet orchid]

wait, let me check

[swift slate]

not much difference but still expensive

[sweet orchid]

it definitely is expensive

[swift slate]

the EU country where it's the cheapest is luxembourg lmao

[sweet orchid]

time to go there then lmao

[swift slate]

i mean from the ones using euro

cuz like idk how much this is in euro lmao

[sweet orchid]

hahaha

vietnamese dongs or how they are called

[swift slate]

that's a lot

[sweet orchid]

yeah haha

[swift slate]

and the most expensive countries were greece, nederlands and austria

for the whammy DT

[sweet orchid]

sad

way too much money

[fathom jewel]

since I dont play guitar here is my first attempt of making some kind of metal song with the free guitar vsts I had in fl studio 3 years ago 💀

this could fit in the "stripped" or "unplugged" category

I should try and remake this

[fathom jewel]

here is my attempt at writing drums on your riff

the idea in my head was to focus on groove over blastbeats

[fathom jewel]

he's not albert anymore 💀

[kind blaze]

Do you here give feedback on vocals or should I go to the vocals channel?
Thanks in advance

[hoary heart]

I believe posting here is perfectly fine, I'd happily check out your vocals once I'm free as well.

[kind blaze]

First thing is a tiny demo
Second thing is more of a whole song to practice my syncing and others

[spice arch]

got inspired by 80's horror and did this lil test run

[fathom jewel]

this audio is cloaked in low end

almost like the master has a low pass filter on it

[spice arch]

I'll have to take a look at it

[fathom jewel]

what exactly did u test btw

[spice arch]

just messin around with settings. I'm not a professional so I'm trying to figure it all out

[fathom jewel]

I see

[kind blaze]

Tell me what you think I’m all ears. I do believe I needed to roll off some high end on the cymbals and overall. And fix the release on the snare. https://youtu.be/qz385Fhpeq4?si=ZOjaYz9fI4y0mIWE

[fathom jewel]

the drums are very loud especially because the cymbal bleed and it overpowers all the other instruments in the track

[kind blaze]

Agreed. I like my drums haha. But for the listener it’s too much. I’m working on making a more balanced track for my next release.

[swift slate]

quick thing i made this morning there is no particular structure yet it's mainly to see how the riff and the chorus transtion togerther

[fringe geode]

All of you guys are so fuckin good at mixing and shit.

Meanwhile all I did was make a shite cover of a Sonic song (well really it's from Shadow the Hedgehog) in like 4 hours.

[swift slate]

Tbh the last thing i just sent is not mixed at all lmao

[fringe geode]

I can tell by the drums, but really, not even the guitar or bass? Stop the cap bruh.

I wish I could get my guitars and bass to sound like that.

[swift slate]

Yes its the raw sound

The guitar sound is with archetype petrucci the bass is umansky with a parallax by neuralDSP and drums are the Matt helpern sig by GGD

As for the presets for petrucci its one made by allt with the distorsion turned off to be replaced with fabfilter saturn and for the parallax its a preset made by Andrew beana

[fringe geode]

What about the IRs?

[swift slate]

Just the ones built in the plugins

[fringe geode]

JESUS

I used the Mesa Mark with GGD Cali IRs, the bass is Parallax and the drums are a combination of GGD Aggro Rock and Metal.

MIne still doesnt sound anywhere near as good as yours and I mixed mine!

[swift slate]

Here is something i mixed + master with the exact same things i mentioned earlier

[fringe geode]

Still miles ahead of what I could do good shit my man!

[swift slate]

I learned from YT videos and from trial and error so keep going and you will improve

[fringe geode]

I will :3

[fathom jewel]

does this sound like a good mix?

[swift slate]

I'm not home i cant listen yet but in few hours ill check it

[gleaming haven]

Other than sounding really basic, is there anything wrong with this, or anything I could improve?

[swift slate]

tbh i can't say the mix is bad but it's not great either i hear quite a few disturbing frequencies on the guitars and the bass sometimes feels kinda detached from the guitars even though it does the same thing as the guitars and as for the drums sounds fine to me. the soloish lead part is a tiny bit too loud to my liking maybe too much high boosted idk but this might just be personal preferencies

and i finished the core of the small thing i sent yesterday but there is still stuff to do on it also still not mixed

[thin dock]

any feedback?

[fathom jewel]

bass boosted phonkn meme music, you have achieved the sound of 2023

[thin dock]

yep

[crystal wind]

https://spotify.link/URg7tsWWRDb

hey guys so i just dropped this song that is a lot more metal then my usual

and

any feedback is welcome cus ik its not perfect lol

[spice arch]

lil update. guitar EQ is hard man lol. idk if the guitar is too harsh now or what.

[vapid eagle]

as the file name suggests, it's a shell of a song

gonna swap out the second part of the intro riff out and move some more stuff around but i really like the idea so far

and do rerecords

some of that is just bad takes

[runic adder]

new spiritbox you say?

[real harness]

I wrote some instrumental stuff. Do you think it would be lit to add vocals to it? Any feedback?

I'm especially not sure about the mix there

[runic adder]

hamburger

[runic adder]

sounds good to me

you should add vocals

[vapid eagle]

What DAW is this?

Looks interesting

[runic adder]

reaper

[runic adder]

just color coded my tracks lol

[vapid eagle]

Interesting