Music Production

[torn lynx]

I use the EZX Death Metal kit in SD3

so its not a SD3 kit

[proper crane]

Man it’s been years since I used ezx death lol

[torn lynx]

I mostly use EZX kits

but do you have a preset for the kit? I would like to get Death and Darkness

but do you have a preset for it?

[proper crane]

I do

[torn lynx]

can I have it?

I think even if I dont have the expansion pack I can swap the pieces out and use the processing

[proper crane]

I do the processing outside of the preset

I just have the raw drums and routing

[torn lynx]

ohhhh okay

rip

[torn lynx]

I found an old thing I made

[zinc coral]

more like rectum-feid waveshaping

that was late ]

no regrets

[grand jasper]

i'm lowk trying to match someday came suddenly drum sound

but mine has too much ring

snare 20 + snare 17 + snare 12a

[grand jasper]

and scs sounds more woodier imo

[nimble nova]

Fr

Goated kit imo

True

[trim harbor]

https://www.dingusland.fun/cymbals @stiff raptor

Heard you talk about getting drum samples lately and this has a bunch of free ones that sound great

https://www.dingusland.fun/zildjian-bootleg-21-pilots-20

[trim harbor]

This one in particular sounds great

really they're all good just different tonalities

[stiff raptor]

How many round robin and velocity layers?

[trim harbor]

I don't know what round robin means tbh

You can get the velocities from the beats he plays with each cymbal

[zinc coral]

its like slightly differently recorded samples that are played in a random order to prevent it from sounding like a oneshot

[trim harbor]

These are all cymbals

[stiff raptor]

😭

[zinc coral]

bro

im not even gonna entertain that response lol

[zinc coral]

gain reduction is $20 rn

https://joeysturgistones.com/products/gain-reduction-deluxe

[zinc coral]

guys i made bacteria music

[grand jasper]

beautiful

[zinc coral]

@stiff raptor @past shell how is this mix

[torn lynx]

I got Perfect Drums

it kinda reminds me of Robot Dog drums

this is the other kit I created

its also has a similar sound to the EZX Duality drums

[grand jasper]

I've used them for a long time til i got ssd4

[torn lynx]

I really like them with the processing I usually do

I can get the sound I was sorta hoping to get with BFD3

also unprocessed

[stiff raptor]

snare needs some more high end crack, and more room

kick is a bit too subby

[wise plume]

When someone's got a few minutes, can I get some advice? You can @ me don't be shy.

[stiff raptor]

That's a really weird way of asking for advice 😭 but shoot your shot ig

@wise plume what's up

[wise plume]

Lol sorry I'm super specific in many ways

& new to the discord so don't want to be that guy

[stiff raptor]

literally just ask the question and someone will probably reply

no need to ask for a few minutes

[wise plume]

But- I'm trying to track the rhythm parts in segments what software do you use?

[wise plume]

Sounds good

[stiff raptor]

yee what about it

reaper

[wise plume]

I don't got a pc right now, & my laptops not modern & no SSD yet, will it run properly? Generally speaking

[stiff raptor]

Yeah, reaper is very lightweight and runs better than most DAWs

especially on older hardware it should have an easy time

[wise plume]

Perfect, appreciate it

[zinc coral]

why did i choose ableton 😭

[stiff raptor]

Disableton

[zinc coral]

pov with litterally nothing playing in safe mode

[trim harbor]

brother

this is just as bad as fl studio

[zinc coral]

yeah but at least its not modeled after an orange strawberry

what a shit branding

why orange

and a stawberry

[trim harbor]

idk either it's just what they do

[wise plume]

I got reaper going 👌

[stiff raptor]

Yuhh

[wise plume]

I never used it before

But it runs on my Asus from 2010 so it's a start.

[trim harbor]

more than likely the only daw that will 😂

[wise plume]

Pftahahah

I know i need an upgrade, I'm working on ittttt lol

[trim harbor]

whatever works man

[wise plume]

Hey the grind is the fun part, I'm just glad to actually get to throw the drums & stuff in with my guitar work now.

[trim harbor]

I produced on this for like a year

Also used it for everything else

[wise plume]

You got a crash course on basics for Reaper?

Hotkeys, like the major ones

[trim harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOXcoJa5jjNVrNre_PmFIvoe0nZcR2CGA

This guy shows you how to do most everything you'd need to

[wise plume]

Got the Steelseries & the Scimitar to make it look pretty atleast

rgb

[wise plume]

You're awesome, thank you

[trim harbor]

no problem

[proven falcon]

i cant lie, i dont know what i was thinking with this new section lmao (section in question isolated in riffethy file)

[stiff raptor]

Reaper Mania tutorials

Best ones out there

Find the "This is Reaper 7" playlist

[wise plume]

Thank you!

[torn lynx]

Yeah its a bit difficult

Mixing with a new plugin

Although Im going for a drum sound with less presence

[grand jasper]

mango

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-kendrick-lamar-mustard-mango-tuff-gif-8666831347696479024

[wise plume]

Got my plug-ins on Reaper for the drums & keys setup now, learning the roll though aha

[zinc coral]

dude that is not a mango

[wise plume]

🥭 mango?

[grand jasper]

sausage

[wise plume]

Ahhhh the saus

[proper crane]

Too dynamic

Did you forget the clipper

[grand jasper]

yes i added a smoker instead

[proper crane]

Ah yeah

I bet it’s very flavorful now

Also I lowk never understood 44.1k vs 48k

Am I weird for doing everything in 48k?

[wise plume]

Whats the best drum plug-in?

[proper crane]

Depends on your definition of best

Best for mixing and working with a raw sound? Superior drummer 3
Best for plug and play? GGD modern & massive
Best for free? Mt power kit

[grand jasper]

i use ssd4 it's my pookie

[proper crane]

Best for being the most shit on in the entire server? Odeholm drums

If you want to sound like thrown/HLB/Vildhjarta, then yeah buster drums

If you’d rather meticulously develop your own sound, SD3

If you dgaf and want something versatile and still good sounding, modern and massive

There’s a bunch of options lowk

But also be ready to deal with the plague on VSTs that is Kontakt

[trim harbor]

Best for free would be any of the Steven slate free versions but MTPower can be pretty good if done right

[proper crane]

Fair

MT power was the first to come to mind because the first album I was on was made with it

[trim harbor]

Ahh I see

[proper crane]

Yeah lol

It ended up aight, never used it myself since I didnt produce the album but I thought it was fine

Hold on let me find a sample

https://youtu.be/ZPPWYrhVI_4?si=w0rx1u7JODjxaP3R

Shoutout @past shell for producing this track lol

My favorite on the album lowk, maybe I should do a cover/re-record for like a 5 year anniversary lol

[wise plume]

Looking for realism like a stage kit, it like that?

I need specific cymbal/tom sizes

Also is there a way to change the kick beaters?

[proper crane]

I don’t think I’ve heard of a single drum VST that allows you to change the beaters

[wise plume]

My ears are hella specific when I've got an idea in my mind aha

& I grew up with the drummer of the band I used to play in back in high-school, he used DW3000's at the time, it was 2012-2013.
The beaters he had & his sound was next level to me in the context.

[wise plume]

Thats what I'm using currently, but also Slate.
The keys are only ReaSynth though still as of right now.

Anyone want to work on something together? Co-producer mentoring?
Don't care what genre, I'm down to jam whateva

[stiff raptor]

I do everything in 48

[stiff raptor]

Lol nice try

[stiff raptor]

Keys? Roland cloud or xenology has all the keys you could ever want

If you're willing to buy a subscription

Or sail the 7 seas

[wise plume]

I'm gonna end up paying for more down the line yeah

Reaper ends after 60 days, right? The free side.

[stiff raptor]

Not really

It just says that

All that happens is a popup that you can close

It's like Winrar

Just click off the popup and you can use it indefinitely

[wise plume]

Even better

Yeah it says "still evaluating"

[stiff raptor]

But $60 is cheap and i wanted to support the devs

So i bought it

Even tho i didn't have to

[wise plume]

Does it add anything extra?

[stiff raptor]

Nope

[wise plume]

Lawl

[stiff raptor]

Just gets rid of the popup

Reaper is actively developed by 2 dudes

[wise plume]

Pop-ups are whatever though ngl

[stiff raptor]

The dudes who made winamp

[wise plume]

This I did know

[stiff raptor]

So i wanted to support

Reaper is genuinely the best daw because of how much you can customize it and how lightweight it is

[wise plume]

That's good character & I rate that 💯

I'd do the same given the position, have before with Steam & indie developers in general over the years.
I'm a massive supporter of the grind in everything, especially if you're doing it without a huge company.

One of my goals/dreams for my solo project was to collaborate with someone(s) to get a solid track, or demo even- out, sometime in the not so far future.
But never could, so decided to get into production myself.

[past shell]

Shame the mix sucks

[stiff raptor]

LOL

[proper crane]

lol

[grand jasper]

Idk I started using that kit because it's the stuff Sturgis used in his peak era

[grand jasper]

Xenon told me about that

[stiff raptor]

Yeah SSD is good for that

You wont find any realism kits

Everyone wants mix-ready ones

Maybe krimh drums

[wise plume]

Sounds good 👍

[proper crane]

I mean superior drummer has some realism

At least the option of it

[stiff raptor]

Ah yeah true

That one's pretty raw and flexible

Still preprocessed tho

But lightly

[proper crane]

Afaik it was mostly just taking out a lot of ugliness from real raw drums

But yeah

Though it is the most raw sound I’ve come across that isn’t just actual drums

[flat oar]

heres my mix update

vk dealer signing in!

@stiff raptor this is my resume to be an official 'dealer'

😂

i gotta redo the solo still ahh (but also all the vocals)

[stiff raptor]

😭

I can't believe i started this name trend

Well schmiddy started it actually

[grand jasper]

Chango dealer friend

[zinc coral]

you are welcome lol

[stiff raptor]

??

[proper crane]

xenon is no longer a dealer

wild

[wise plume]

Will a Rocksmith+ cord with with Reaper?
Don't have a cord to direct through my Katana.

[zinc coral]

that is a good question i dont even know what that meant now that im looking back at it

[stiff raptor]

No idea but with Reaper the answer is probably

[stiff raptor]

I'm the only one that actually deals stuff (actual chango resources)

LOL

[proper crane]

No clue what that means but neat

[zinc coral]

i deal shitty plugins technicaly

[proper crane]

I mean

I can deal a game of Texas holdem

If that counts

[zinc coral]

there you go now its lore accurite

[proper crane]

I see

[wise plume]

Yeah fair enough aha

[stiff raptor]

Chango studios samples cause the chango studio store is no longer online

[proper crane]

Ah

And I assume you were their biggest customer?

[stiff raptor]

No, i wasn't even into production at that time

I just have a really deep interest in the chango studios style of production, so I've spent the better part of 4 years uncovering old plugins, samples, packs, and even talking with the chango founder himself lol

[proper crane]

Oh interesting

[stiff raptor]

I've recreated his mixes out of pure interest in trying to get that sound, and i did it so many times he eventually asked me to work on a project with him

[proper crane]

That’s sick lmfao

[stiff raptor]

LOL ikr

[proper crane]

What records did he do?

[stiff raptor]

One sec

[proper crane]

And can I assume the change sound is also the xenon sound or are you more stylized now

[stiff raptor]

With Ears To See And Eyes to Hear - SWS
The Hollow - MMF
Challenger - MMF
They Said a Storm Was Coming - Jamie's Elsewhere
Teenage Scream - That's Outrageous!
Genesi[s] and Number[s] - Woe is Me

And hundreds more

[stiff raptor]

I've taken that sound and improved upon it, modernized it, and made it my own

[proper crane]

Ah I don’t know any of those lol

That’s cool though

[stiff raptor]

Sleeping with sirens

Their first album

You def know that one

Let me send you the full list

He also produced all the Punk Goes Pop records

[proper crane]

I might be executed for saying this but I don’t listen to sleeping with sirens

[stiff raptor]

https://www.discogs.com/label/409319-Chango-Studios

This is most of them

[proper crane]

I need to be careful saying that out loud because my sisters will crucify me for that

[proper crane]

Oh I know those

[stiff raptor]

You've definitely heard at least clips from that album, it's iconic in the scene

[proper crane]

Gotcha

[stiff raptor]

He also produced the Brownings first record

[proper crane]

Probably, just don’t recognize the name

[proper crane]

I don’t listen to em lol

[stiff raptor]

And fit for a Kings first record

Basically most big metalcore bands he did their first record LOL

[proper crane]

Ooooooh

[zinc coral]

loll

[stiff raptor]

Me neither, I'm just naming notable works

[proper crane]

So Metalcore sturgis

[stiff raptor]

I don't listen to FFAK

[proper crane]

I love FFAK

[zinc coral]

FFAK?

[proper crane]

That clears it up for me lol

[stiff raptor]

Post hardcore/electronicore mostly, with some metalcore

[proper crane]

Fit for a king

[zinc coral]

oh

[stiff raptor]

Sturgis mostly did metalcore and deathcore with a touch of electronicore

(Attack attack)

[proper crane]

lol

[stiff raptor]

Chango also did I See Stars first two records

Crown the empire first EP

[proper crane]

I see

[stiff raptor]

Anyway I'm not autistic but as you can tell this is a hyperfixation of mine lol

[proper crane]

That’s what we all say

[stiff raptor]

LOL

[proper crane]

Nice though

Don’t think I’ve ever had a producer I’ve been obsessed with lowk

[stiff raptor]

Now your homework is to listen to that first list i sent, not knowing a single one of those is actually wild

LOL

[stiff raptor]

Missing out

[proper crane]

I mean closest I’d get is copying everything I could find from buster on YouTube lol

But I’d always been more of a “find my own sound with these records as influences” kinda guy

[stiff raptor]

See that's what i did, but later down the line i realized all my inspiration records were produced by the same guy

[proper crane]

Atm my biggest influences for sound are Execute.exe by DeadVectors and Evergreen by ATB (which is how I came across my most recent guitar tone)

[proper crane]

Ah yeah that’ll do it lol

[stiff raptor]

I can't stand the buster sound honestly

[proper crane]

I don’t think it’s all that

Buster is talented af don’t get me wrong but it was never a sound I wanted to emulate, I get ya

[stiff raptor]

Yeah for sure

[proper crane]

okay here we go

think i got the bass/guitar mix right for this tone finally

[flat oar]

u should change that name back! 😢

[zinc coral]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO @stiff raptor

okay if you want to be xenon you have to go back to the old pfp

[stiff raptor]

What?

[zinc coral]

gumball

[grand jasper]

Drug dealer friend

[ruby jay]

a combination of ggd, superior drummer and ssd4 would be better to get the thrown drum sound, odeholm drums (mixed) is preferable for making quick demos and ideas

[grand jasper]

idk odeholm drums overall is just... meh

[ruby jay]

man there is something about the high mids that really makes the guitar tone pop in kublai khan's tracks, especially in the nomad record

[ruby jay]

super overused, a more creative way to use odeholm drums like run it through chroma by xynth audio for getting pitched aggresive drum hits, for completely bonkers ideas

[proper crane]

true, I do enjoy the tones on that album

[grand jasper]

I used it in the first half of 2025 because it was fresh and I didn't know how to mix stuff

[zinc coral]

If xenon wants to play it that way

[grand jasper]

Really need to overcome my insecurities about vocals and finally start recording em

[zinc coral]

are these ai?

[proper crane]

The amount of power you have to influence nicknames is amazing

[flat oar]

im the only dealer now? damn

i see how it is 💀

[trim harbor]

Nevermind lol

[stiff raptor]

It feels weird bro

[trim harbor]

I think it's sounding better @stiff raptor

[torn lynx]

I like this mix

[zinc coral]

Snare is extremely loud, the guitars have like no mids

[stiff raptor]

Cursed

[stiff raptor]

It sounds about the same, you really need to turn down the overheads and snare

and the kick has to be fixed

cause right now it sounds like a tupperware

do you have any eq or compression on the kick at all?

[grand jasper]

are you making tabs before recording stuff?

[wise plume]

💀

[grave marlin]

https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2026/04/15/universal-audio-uad-explore-bundle/

[wise plume]

Nah learning Aesthetics of Hate

[stiff raptor]

!!!

[grave marlin]

Universal Audio released 8 of their best plugins for free as part of a permanently free bundle.

[stiff raptor]

WOOOO

getting it rn

i already have 2 of em

[grave marlin]

I have em all 🙃 granted I only paid for half of em

[wise plume]

Was just mostly showing my rigge ass setup consisting of:

•Asus Craptop 2011
•Rocksmith+ Cable
•Razer headset (audio/mic)

[grave marlin]

They've all been part of various bundles and freebies but I actually bought the la2a and the polymax synth

Fun fact: The Showtime 64 amp sound beautiful

[stiff raptor]

la2a is amazing

[grave marlin]

And the UA versions are arguably the best plugin versions on the market

[wise plume]

Improvised a temporary studio

[stiff raptor]

Blursed

[trim harbor]

I use a Katana as an interface as well, surprised I'm not alone on that.

It's pretty good but it's very unusual with how the drivers work

[grand jasper]

dang how are you surviving on that

i used a 2013 acer aspire e1-570g for some time when my pc was absent

it was terrible with i3-3217u 😭

[trim harbor]

1176 FREE HOLY SHIT

I love Analog Obsession plug-ins, but we got the real deal now

[grave marlin]

Yyeeeaaa buddy. Having used these plugins for a bit already, I can tell you they're borderline essential to have in your mix kit. The 1176 is such an amazing compressor for virtually everything, including as a super fast smashed parallel compressor you can dial in to taste. The LA2A is unbelievably silky smooth on vocals and bass. And there's the tried and true trick of feeding the 1176 to the LA2A which is a sound that's a staple for a reason; it simply works.

[trim harbor]

Are both of those in the bundle? I edited the message cuz I realized it was the 1176 and not LA2A lol

[grave marlin]

Yes they're both in the bundle

[trim harbor]

Yooooooo

That's sick

[grave marlin]

The silver one is the la2a and the black one above it is the 1176 (in the photo)

[trim harbor]

I get the two confused a decent bit tbh

[wise plume]

i need to fix the gate on my amp & tighten it a bit

[wise plume]

10% luck

20% skill

15% concentrated power of will

5% pleasure

50% pain

100% reason to remember the name

[stiff raptor]

Buddy thats 200%

[wise plume]

that's all i know

[grave marlin]

Can't do math but can write bars 💯🔥

@stiff raptor btw if you did download that pack, check out the Polymax synth. Its like the 80s in a plugin. Has an incredible sound out the box and I'm willing to bet you can get some great shit outta it for your own stuff.

https://youtu.be/vICl9arFtag?si=D1gPH6QxeRBoQZT9

[stiff raptor]

Oh shoot

This is fire

[torn lynx]

I think Perfect Drums is my favorite drum plugin

Im really close to Utsu's drum sound but mine is closer to his older Unique and Reniassance drums. I like mine more anyway

[past shell]

shame what they did to it

[torn lynx]

What?

[white shell]

bro busters drums go crazy

[ruby jay]

perfect drums turned into dw soundworks, that's the unfortunate thing that happened to it, but there is a preset with the legacy perfect drums samples on it so it's not much of an issue anymore

not a fan of the dry or processed presets of DW soundworks

[zinc coral]

i feel bad for what is about to rain down on you

[torn lynx]

Ah

[wise plume]

Hahahaha

[zinc coral]

guys i was so fuckin wrong

m&m 2 slaps

i feel so stupid rn

[grand jasper]

what's the price

[nimble nova]

219 usd 💀

[grand jasper]

dang

[stiff raptor]

Nolly drums aren't for me anymore

All his cymbals sound the same

And i don't like his kicks

[nimble nova]

Why u unadd me

I didnt do anything

[grand jasper]

Guh

[nimble nova]

What

[white shell]

Him mixing CYB repented is insane

[grand jasper]

bmth succumbed to odeholmslop plague

[stiff raptor]

yep

[grand jasper]

Drums sound like absolute shit honestly

[trim harbor]

No confirmation on that but I feel like if you get the chance to mix a released BMTH project (re-record or not), you know you kinda have to nail it

[ruby jay]

imagine if zakk cervini mixed cyb 💀

[grand jasper]

i only found out abt cervini when xenon sent his mix in style of zakk

[stiff raptor]

LOL

[trim harbor]

Would sound so artificial it's insane
I don't mind when he mixes stuff as long as he does it right (that new MiW song 🔥 )

[nimble nova]

@stiff raptor whats the loudest thing in a mix usually?

@past shell

[stiff raptor]

No disrespect but at a certain point you can google these things

And for me, it's usually the guitar

guitar, kick, snare, and vocal take up the loudest parts of a full mix

[nimble nova]

Ok i will google them next time ig

[past shell]

The peaks of the snare and kick. But it depends on how you perceive loudness

[stiff raptor]

Yea that too

[past shell]

If your guitars are peaking louder than your snare something ain’t right

But on the contrary, a guitar often FEELS louder than a snare

[stiff raptor]

LOL

yeah

[nimble nova]

Feels but isnt?

[past shell]

Because it takes up essentially the full range of human hearing (well kinda), is a very sustained instrument and usually has a lot in the 1-5khz range. Which humans are very sensitive to

But snares are louder. Almost always

Unless your mix sucks

In which case maybe the guitar peaks louder than the snare

[stiff raptor]

Yeah if you're going by actual peaks, kick and snare should be louder

But loudest by perception/feeling, the guitar pretty much always takes the forefront

[past shell]

I agree

And vocals

[stiff raptor]

cause it takes up a wider place in the frequency spectrum

yeah

[trim harbor]

i've got both

this is the eq curve

And this is the compression settings

just updated the eq

Thing is it sounds better by itself now, but you can't hear it in the mix anymore

Finally got it good I think

[stiff raptor]

why are you cutting the highs on the kick? it sounds like that's what's making it completely muffled

if you send me those drums as unprocessed stems, i'll do a little mix mockup on them to give you an idea of how i process drums and how they should sound

[trim harbor]

Like the drum midi or do you want the audio?

Actually nevermind just re-read it

[stiff raptor]

lol

[trim harbor]

@stiff raptor

just get rid of that bit of guitar in the room lol

[stiff raptor]

Lol

[stiff raptor]

ok downloading these now

[stiff raptor]

@trim harbor im going to mix these and then screen record my process

then ill send that here so you can see exactly what im doing

[trim harbor]

Alright

[stiff raptor]

https://streamable.com/x345ji

@trim harbor

this is a very rudimentary processing

imo these drums are just not my favorite

but this is just a very basic rundown of how i'd process drums

[trim harbor]

Lots of stuff here I wouldn't typically think of, I'll try a few techniques there

[stiff raptor]

like what?

Most of what im doing is routing the kick and snare to the overhead and room channel to sidechain it

And then compression, dynamic EQ, and transient shaping

that's all

[trim harbor]

yeah that

I had seriously never thought of that before

[stiff raptor]

That is pretty necessary to a good drum sound 😭

I never mix drums without doing that lol

you can get the same effect by compressing the whole drum bus, but i find that i have more flexibility doing it this way

[trim harbor]

It's sounding way better now, changed the kick eq some, sidechain comp'd the oh's and room

[stiff raptor]

its ducking a little much but this is LEAGUES better than before

i would sidechain the OHs a little less

Kick room is also too boomy, and the kick needs to be tighter

[trim harbor]

Yeah I could hear that a little too

[stiff raptor]

Mixing indie rock for once

[stiff raptor]

Pretty goodish mix of this

@zinc coral obligatory ping cause it's indie

vocals are not attently edited but i think it sounds pretty aight

[white shell]

He reposted the album on his story so

[grand jasper]

is that the snare you sent me or something else?

[stiff raptor]

yee

ive been using it for everything lol

[grand jasper]

yea it's very versatile indeed

lol

[zinc coral]

hahaha ill listen in a sec

idk it might just be me but guitars are lacking a bit of high end and are a bit to loud for the style

it sounds really weird to listen to my style of song with a xenon mix

[stiff raptor]

LOL

Loud guitars >>>

in every genre

[zinc coral]

lol

[stiff raptor]

I did another from the same band

I like this one a lot better

sounds like paramore

[stiff raptor]

Also, they didn't include a di

So i had to EQ the printed guitar tone

the original tone was pretty sloppy

[grand jasper]

Ouch

[stiff raptor]

im surprised by how many bands don't include di tracks

or have a horrible di

@zinc coral

heres the other one

It sounds just like paramore

i like this one alot more

[proven falcon]

decided to not have a long, ambient intro for once

[trim harbor]

"We have Paramore at home"
The Paramore we have at home:

[proper crane]

From the teaser I saw on YouTube it sounds EXACTLY how I thought it would lol

[trim harbor]

Where?

[proper crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mPKffkEKj9U?si=--jrTdSu63Jxu7Em

Also on Instagram but I don’t use insta much anymore

[trim harbor]

That's sick

It's like CYB but with production from Will Putney

[proper crane]

It also kinda sounds like phoenix studios’ mix lol
https://youtu.be/JpeBURGPS2w?si=irD_pZZWkNSdnJmh

[trim harbor]

Had a feeling that despite it not being his type of genre he would do well

That just makes me more excited

[proper crane]

I mean Buster mixes thrown and allt

Both are like one or two steps off from deathcore

[trim harbor]

If they make the Pray for Plagues lyrics better (mostly just that first line for me) I will be listening a lot

[trim harbor]

Haven't heard either

[proper crane]

https://youtu.be/DqBzOVCmIdM?si=ANX9kqKh30pf0rQz

https://youtu.be/cLXQou3i1uI?si=ve9so8FQ2FzvVWEz

[stiff raptor]

he's just the king of hyperprocessed lol

[proper crane]

I think thrown is one of his most popular nail the mix tutorials too

Check it out if ya get the chance

[trim harbor]

Jordan Fish is right there

[stiff raptor]

theyre about the same

but jordan is less unique

[trim harbor]

Yeah I really don't hear the death influence in THROWN

Sounds kinda a modern metalcore version of the old 90s nu metal

The breakdown goes though

[proper crane]

Two steps off

Allt is a lot closer

[trim harbor]

slightly

[stiff raptor]

newest ver with kicks returned lol

i forgot to place some midi

2:04 backing vocals totally MOGGING

@zinc coral

@grave marlin check dis mix

Ultimate paramore core

[grave marlin]

WOOOAAAH WHATEVER MAKES YOU BREAAAAAKK

Nawh but seriously, mix sounds great.

[stiff raptor]

Whattt

The line is "i never meant to brag"

LOL

FAKE FAN!!! POSER!!!!!!

[grave marlin]

Its my favorite Avril Lavigne song bro come on

[stiff raptor]

LOL

[grave marlin]

I've been singing it that way since I was 13, I'm going to continue to do so 😂

We out here generationally mishearing lyrics

[stiff raptor]

LOLL

[zinc coral]

oh ew

can i hear the og tone?

[zinc coral]

sounds sick

[zinc coral]

did you delete one or somthing

[zinc coral]

sex noises in the baackround?

what is going on there

[proper crane]

have you never listened to pray for plagues before

[proper crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1CRuSlIUM 4:15

[zinc coral]

wtf

i never noticed that

i was obsessed with that song

[proper crane]

i see

[zinc coral]

i used to think this mix was insane

[grand jasper]

decided to mix those stems as well

eh idk i don't like my version

[zinc coral]

where do you get the stems?

also @stiff raptor elp

[grand jasper]

https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms3/mtk/#Actions

[zinc coral]

im bad at my job again

[grand jasper]

i only processed DIs before that so i don't really know how to work with amped sound

[zinc coral]

3rd on the train @stiff raptor @grand jasper

[zinc coral]

i love busters mixes

hate his drum plugin

the allt mixes are a good blend between hyper processed and just everything being midi

[trim harbor]

Yeah based on what people have said about it I just won't use that

I've heard some examples of it and it's pretty bad

I guess if you're going for that Dayseeker sound it would work

[grand jasper]

it kinda sounds grainy

[stiff raptor]

Idk about that vocal filter LOL

[grand jasper]

so what do you think about mine

[stiff raptor]

Lots of ducking i think

[grand jasper]

i used drumforge sturgis fire edition btw

kick assault snare ember

[grand jasper]

haven't used fop in a while

[grand jasper]

@stiff raptor

[trim harbor]

Filename is hilarious

[grave marlin]

Just picked up a set of Beyerdynamic DT990 Pros. They released a new version of them so the originals went down in price to around $180. First impressions, huge upgrade over my Audiotechnicas, gorgeous clear sound. Great balance in bass, mids, and highs. Comfy as hell. Just giving a heads up on the price drop in here.

[grand jasper]

dang and i'm still hanging on my mom's hyperx headset

[stiff raptor]

snare is too snappy, and kinda buried

cymbals arent super defined

[stiff raptor]

Vocals kinda sound nasally and the drums keep ducking (especially the snare)

i think too much compression

[stiff raptor]

Nice and foppy

If you have any processing on the kick and snare, you don't need it

fop kit is already ultraprocessed

[grand jasper]

Nope

[stiff raptor]

it sounds best raw

Ok good

[grand jasper]

I don't have any

I didn't even route out stuff

[stiff raptor]

if you have vengeance kit, use that because its the same as fop but it has velocity

[grand jasper]

Well you gave me a big chango stash xd

I have it yeah

[nimble nova]

I keep hearing abt that kit, what is that kit?

[stiff raptor]

A good one

Chango studios signature drum kit made from slate and other samples

[nimble nova]

Vst?

Or what is it?

[stiff raptor]

It's not on the internet anymore

[torn lynx]

Do you have it?

I think the free Restrains Kit sounds pretty similar

[stiff raptor]

Sounds nothing like it imo

Fop is one of a kind

[nimble nova]

Could u send it if u have a copy of it?

[zinc coral]

its the only thing us indie guys are good at

[zinc coral]

what about this

[torn lynx]

Ah. Idk maybe Im misremembering.

[torn lynx]

Do you have a copy?

[stiff raptor]

Lots of people have it

[grand jasper]

me 2

[grand jasper]

guys do you know where to get fop kit nkis cuz i'm using samples instead

[stiff raptor]

lol

[grand jasper]

is it long lost media

hey xenon do u know ??

[nimble nova]

I want that kit i wonder whats it abt

[stiff raptor]

lol

[torn lynx]

My whole experience in this server has all felt like the butt end of one long passive aggressive bit.

[stiff raptor]

What

[torn lynx]

Nothing nothing

[stiff raptor]

Yeah none of this conversation has been passive aggressive at least as far as i know

😭🙏

[nimble nova]

Where can i get it

[stiff raptor]

I'm not sure, you might be able to find it on reddit

I have a copy but I'm not going to share it here

[nimble nova]

Free?

Or paid?

[stiff raptor]

It's no longer for sale

I said that before

But someone may have a copy from years ago

[grave marlin]

Xenon, Keeper of the FOP

[grand jasper]

Fop is a long long lost pack that only the changoiest audio engineers can obtain

[torn lynx]

yeah its just me

[torn lynx]

vs the original https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyG9svBbeo

[wise plume]

Got a newer laptop, tidied up the setup.

Got the rig for BOSS Tone Studio, installed it.

With the lights down, & that's another day done for me.

yes it is Dragonite

[glacial portal]

Dragonite def effects tone

[wise plume]

Cleaned it up a bit (gave my best lad D.Nite some swag)

[wise plume]

Pfftaha who you think does my tone critique?

[wise plume]

My dude

[trim harbor]

I have that exact CD, love that album

[grand jasper]

kse based

[wise plume]

Disarm the Descent wasn't perfect, but it still had it's bangers.
I have a throwback video of me doing the solo tapping part like 10 years ago aha.

[torn lynx]

can someone tell me if my mixing skills are getting any better

[stiff raptor]

sounds well balanced though its pretty dark

kick has a bit too much boominess and overheads need to be much brighter

[torn lynx]

I can work on that a bit. Eq ing my mixes is pretty difficult with $15 headphones from walmart

[torn lynx]

What do you mean the kick has too much boominess? I tried to match the snare as much as possible

[stiff raptor]

Why are you trying to match the kick to the snare?

It's a whole different instrument!

[torn lynx]

Not entirely but in terms of eq curve they should be similR

[wise plume]

The final showcase... I think I'm satisfied- for now

[wise plume]

Off to work, see results in a few hours.

[stiff raptor]

Who told you this lol

Its just not true

[torn lynx]

Nobody?

I just figured out that I could make a kick and a snare sound better together by eqing them in a certain way

Im self taught so Im just fucking around and making stuff that I think sounds nice

[flat oar]

hmm i used to do this with kick and snares but i realized a nice kick is simply bassier and a nice snare is simply more elegant and outright and maybe even a tiny bit fizzy on the high end

[trim harbor]

That's way too much high pass for a kick if we're mirroring snare

[stiff raptor]

yeah that might cause some problems down the line

Kick and snare are vastly different instruments that serve different purposes

EQ them differently according to their needs

[digital blade]

Pro-q snare preset #3 is my personal favorite.

[stiff raptor]

EQ preset? 💔

[digital blade]

Yeah.

[stiff raptor]

Personally i'd recommend learning how to use the EQ rather than presets

Presets are fine, but you should learn the tool regardless

[digital blade]

Thank you for your input.

[trim harbor]

Wrong channel 💀

[torn lynx]

Yeah I mean the kick has more low end and the snare has more high end, I dont eq them to match exactly. Its complicated and I dont really want to explain everything I do cuz Im gonna get flamed for using too many plugins

Also that kick specifically has a lot of midrange but its the only one from Perfect Drums that I like

Its the Tama kick I believe

[stiff raptor]

the amount of plugins you use doesnt really matter if it still sounds good in the end

experimentation is good

Know the rules so that you can know when to break them

[torn lynx]

Yeah im trying

[stiff raptor]

You're doing just fine

as far as ive heard in your mixes, anyway

[torn lynx]

But criticism (as long as not rude) is helpful

[torn lynx]

Thx

[stiff raptor]

constructive criticism all the way

something else i noticed about the recent mix you sent, the bass seems to randomly have notes that are louder than others

[torn lynx]

The slap part?

Thats on purpose

[stiff raptor]

oh, it sounds a bit jarring imo

but if that's what you're going for, do it

[torn lynx]

Ah yeah, I like it

[proper crane]

Finally remembered my youtube password
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOAD0-UJTY8

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/fpogJZ3JvfQ?

[grand jasper]

honestly the only ndsp plugin I care about now is Mantra

[stiff raptor]

Pretty decent drum mix using entirely free plugins

including the drum library

SSD5.5 Free

[trim harbor]

I gotta get that reverb plugin

Sounds amazing

[grave marlin]

Needs more cowbell

(actually sounds great tho. Love the room on the snare)

[stiff raptor]

magic7 my goat

[proper crane]

needs more OTT

https://klipy.com/gifs/ott-ott-stack--k01KQ0K0J6STFVD8RVX8BX849D2

[trim harbor]

Richii Wainwright technique

For context he was the first music production youtuber I ever watched, and I used only his techniques

And some are good but most aren't

Still watch him though, his content is good

[torn lynx]

How much ott before it actually sounds bad

[trim harbor]

Depends on what we're handling

[zinc coral]

did this mix

holy limiter holdong lemme fix that

[trim harbor]

Nail the Mix stems right?

[zinc coral]

yep

nah i wrote it trust

[trim harbor]

You mind sending them?

[zinc coral]

yeah sure, i have a couple others as well

[trim harbor]

Awesome

Didn't you say you had the BMTH one?

I remember you saying that at one point

[zinc coral]

ive got:

Prayer position: Periphery
Overconfidence: Tallah
Guilt: Thrown
Billmuri
and the holding absense one

holding absense has really shit stems

but thats the preset reaper file

i dont think it has my mix on it but if it does just take off the effects and balence it bak to zero

thats the periphery one

if you dont use reaper too bad i cant be bothered re downloading the stems lol

[stiff raptor]

hey reaper project files don't contain audio...

[trim harbor]

Dw I use it

[stiff raptor]

for those trying to download these, it won't work

[zinc coral]

wait

fuck im an idiot

[stiff raptor]

reaper project files only contain position/fx/levels data

[zinc coral]

LOL

[trim harbor]

You can just use the bounce live disk feature and remove all effects

[zinc coral]

holdon ill just re download them lol

[stiff raptor]

or zip the project folder?

[trim harbor]

True

[zinc coral]

its 2GB 😭

[trim harbor]

Get the Bilmuri one in specific, I really like their music

[zinc coral]

yeah sure

[trim harbor]

Damn bro how much stuff is there

[zinc coral]

they are all wav and about 3-4 mins, reaper file, +cubase + studio 1 + logic + my ableton converted files

[trim harbor]

Why would there be that many different versions for different DAWs?

[zinc coral]

idk

ntm

[trim harbor]

At least there's no FL Studio versions 😭

[zinc coral]

or ableton for some reason

honestly im starting to not like ableton

for mixing

its just not a daw that is focused on it

[trim harbor]

It's meant for EDM mainly

Or at least that's what I've heard

[zinc coral]

not really, its kinda just a very writing focused daw

i cant figure out these files sorry haha

[trim harbor]

Wdym you can't figure them out

[zinc coral]

its 3gb

wtf do i sent that

[trim harbor]

Damn

[zinc coral]

lol

[trim harbor]

Use like Dropbox or something idk

[zinc coral]

3 sessions of ntm is the same as unreal engine

thats insane

lol

[trim harbor]

Wild

The problem is just sending the files though right?

[zinc coral]

yeah

[trim harbor]

OK I think I know what to do

https://youtu.be/Iwdx-aGmVhI

[trim harbor]

@zinc coral

[torn lynx]

What about idk drums?

[trim harbor]

They're called IDK Drums?

[zinc coral]

i refuse to use drop box

[torn lynx]

No

[trim harbor]

Google drive then

[torn lynx]

It was just the first thing I thought of was drums

[zinc coral]

lol gimmie a bit im just busy atm

[trim harbor]

Ohh

[torn lynx]

:/

[trim harbor]

Wouldn't personally use OTT on drums

[stiff raptor]

i use ott on drums a bunch, sounds good when DONE CORRECTLY

works well as a smashed parallel compression to blend in

just don't overdo it

it has that very overprocessed sound

[torn lynx]

I use it on my drums

[zinc coral]

ott on a parralel bus is amazing

[torn lynx]

And a distortion plugin similar to Saturn but you can choose different clipping fo different freq bands

[trim harbor]

That would make sense for parallel, I use Pro-C for that if I am doing that

[torn lynx]

Thats sorta where my whole drum sound comes from

[stiff raptor]

i wish there was a free alternative to saturn 2

been trying to move my workflow to only free plugins yet saturn continues to stand in the way

[trim harbor]

There is

I forget what it's called

Lemme look it up

[stiff raptor]

voxengo has something kinda similar but ive never tried it

[trim harbor]

https://vst.unplug.red/prisma

This is the only one I know of

[stiff raptor]

what the heck is this lol

fisher price my first vst type beat

[trim harbor]

LMAO

It does have a weird aesthetic

[stiff raptor]

this may be one of the ugliest vsts ive seen 😭

looks like those childrens toys they have in doctor's offices

[trim harbor]

It sounds good from what I've heard, but yeah, doesn't look amazing

[nimble nova]

Completely free?

[stiff raptor]

Yep

[proper crane]

There’s also an option somewhere in there to create a zip file of the project and all of its media

I’ve used it before when setting up the DAW on my band’s rack IEM system

[zinc coral]

1993: Waves released the L1 Ultramaximizer

I just found out that my limiter is 33 years old

[grave marlin]

Proud L2 user reporting in

[zinc coral]

all the waves limiters are amazing

[grave marlin]

Great mastering limiter.

[zinc coral]

flatline is overpriced as hell

what does it even do

[grave marlin]

makes lines flat

[trim harbor]

I use the off-brand (otherwise known as similar free plugin), LoudMax

[zinc coral]

just use rea limit

all the reaper stock are amazing

[digital blade]

My man

[nimble nova]

Damn WHAT

[stiff raptor]

Recreated the Pierce the Veil guitar tone with 100% free plugins

[proper crane]

YOU STAY AWAY FROM HER ITS NOT HER TIIIIIIIMEEEEEEEE

[trim harbor]

Someone at school said they listen to Pierce the Veil today BTW (with our school most people either like Stray Kids or country)

[grave marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-funny-pierce-the-veil-vic-fuentes-gif-15762322335223305445

[copper portal]

Hi, just wondering if people have any mixing tips for this? I don’t know why but it just doesn’t sound how I want it to

For one I know I need to lessen the kick drum click, I think it’s a bit too present

But then idk somethings irking me about it, just doesn’t match up to similar styles, like knocked loose or insert deathcore here

[stiff raptor]

@glacial portal i think i figured out that one tone

took a few hours of messing around with IRs and EQ settings but

i think this is REALLY close

[glacial portal]

Post it and I'll listen to it when I get home.

[stiff raptor]

yuh

[glacial portal]

Don't got my headphones atm.

[stiff raptor]

snare sounds kinda unprocessed

snare needs more compression

multiband compression as well

[trim harbor]

Original sounds like it has less high end

But these can never be 1 to 1

[stiff raptor]

the first one is the original one

[trim harbor]

Yeah I,know

[stiff raptor]

it's actually a bit brighter than mine

in the 6k+ range

[trim harbor]

Yours sounds brighter to my ears

But idk

[stiff raptor]

Theirs vs mine

mine's the 2nd one

[torn lynx]

I made this in serum

I figured out I can use Thermal distortion to stereo widen the low end and bring out the high end of my bass

[digital blade]

Almost sounds like Seinfeld at the end. I like it.

[torn lynx]

Its the Seinfeld riff.

[zinc coral]

proq3

who tf are you

[grand jasper]

What

[zinc coral]

theirs sounds like they have a lot less low

also more mid scooped and high end

[stiff raptor]

For the analyzer only lol

[torn lynx]

I use pro q 2

Isnt it just an eq?

[stiff raptor]

He's saying that cause i generally only use TDR Nova

The free EQ

[torn lynx]

I also use the built in eq in my DAW almost always

[stiff raptor]

Yee

[torn lynx]

Ohhh okay

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/6ELyerfXVts?

[torn lynx]

Is it just Superior Drummer? So far from what I can tell it just does all the stuff Superior does.

I havent listened to it yet tho

[glacial portal]

Sorta kinda not really.

The whole idea behind ML Drums is that it's relatively affordable alternative to Superior/EZ Drummer, where u can mix inside the plugin n stuff too. What makes it different, is that it's expansions are not genre based, they more based around the actual gear itself. So like Yamaha, Pearl, Ludwig etc. You can change the tuning of the drums too which I don't see other software doing. Like Superior/Ez, it runs off its own engine. So you don't need Kontakt or anything.

[torn lynx]

You can change tuning in Superior and mix in Superior as well.

[glacial portal]

I didn't know u could change tuning in Superior.

[torn lynx]

You can also mix from the ground up

[glacial portal]

I knew that part.

[torn lynx]

Yeah, you can change tuning, and theres a button to set it to sound realistic. So you can either have a pitched up or down piece or make it sound actually tuned

So it just seems like its free superior

I mean Im not trashing it, its awesome

[glacial portal]

The base kit is free yeah.

All expansions are paid but they're cheaper than Toontrack ones.

[stiff raptor]

based Chao as per usual

[zinc coral]

no it just seems like somthing youd not use

because its 'spensive

[stiff raptor]

yeah i dont use it for EQing

i was just looking at the analyzer

[zinc coral]

lol

[torn lynx]

So u bought an expensive thing and arent even using it all the way

[stiff raptor]

😭 no, i didnt buy it

i downloaded it ages ago

[torn lynx]

Ohhhh

Lmao

[glacial portal]

That is extremely close.

[stiff raptor]

Thank u sir!

[zinc coral]

How

[glacial portal]

Honestly at that point it's all production work from there.

[nimble nova]

Whats this?

[glacial portal]

An expansion pack to ML Drums.

[stiff raptor]

@glacial portal ive been meaning to get my hands on some old cabs to mic up, i really want to learn how to mic a real cab

it sounds really fun

but MAN are they expensive 😭

im half hoping for some jaded old guy who did shows in the 80s to be like "Welp ive been lookin to get these off my hands, you can take em for free, they just take up space 👴"

[glacial portal]

I'd recommend starting out with some less expensive cabs and speakers, as well as some less expensive mics.

[stiff raptor]

oh i have plenty of mics

mics aren't the issue

thankfully

[glacial portal]

Ahhh aight.

[stiff raptor]

Just big ol cabs

[glacial portal]

A good place to start with cheap cabs is Seismic Audio or Harley Benton.

[stiff raptor]

harley benton is so good man

i have 2 of their guitars

1 of them plays better than my les paul lol

[glacial portal]

They make cabs too.

[stiff raptor]

oooo

I need a sponsor atp

HARLEY BENTON SPONSOR ME

[glacial portal]

I haven't tried them but from what my friends in Agufish's server have told me, they're pretty good for the money.

My personal experience has been with Seismic Audio in terms of cabs. In fact I have a 2x12 closed back cab.

[stiff raptor]

any big audio difference in closed vs open back?

i wanna learn all the ins and outs

[proper crane]

Just saw a band that was touring with a 1996 Line 6 412

Shit was insane

[glacial portal]

Closed back are more directional and have a tighter bass response. Open backs are more open and fill the room more.

[stiff raptor]

Ahh gotcha

pros and cons

[glacial portal]

Yeah. With analog gear there is no free lunch, there's pros and cons to everything.

I was helping my old professor do a project with the final project for some underclassmen one day and the combo was an open back 1x12. He mic'd the back on the combo. He explained that because of the size, he wanted to fill out the sonic spectrum just a wee bit more. Whether he used it or not was up to the student who was mixing.

@stiff raptor

Them old guys got some cool tricks.

[stiff raptor]

Oooooo that is really cool

What really fascinates me about cabs is the mic placement

because i find myself ALWAYS choosing IRs that are "grill edge"

so i looked up where that placement is to see it visually

its so interesting how and where it changes the sound

[grand jasper]

i actually wanted to get an r-458 from them but it's not easy to get their guitars here in russia

i'm still rocking my aria ii pro stg-004 stratocaster that i got for my birthday in 2023

[glacial portal]

Yeah. Even one centimeter and you'll get an almost completely different sound. What they used to do is tape the area where the sweet spot was. Infact when it comes to micing cabs, the difference speakers have different frequencies.

[stiff raptor]

Wow

[glacial portal]

Yeah when it comes to 4x12s, the different speakers can sound completely different from each other.

[stiff raptor]

That's crazy

How do you even manage to keep recording sessions for an album consistent

Just tape?

LOL

[glacial portal]

Actually

Yes

[stiff raptor]

Insanity

[glacial portal]

The thing with speakers is that they're like amps. They have their own tolerances and stuff, so even if they're off the same line, let's say 2 V30s can sound different from each other.

[stiff raptor]

So what about amp volume, would it be better to mic them at a lower or medium volume?

[grand jasper]

i kinda feel burnt out already even though i only started making an album

[glacial portal]

Depends on the type of mic it is. Some mics can handle the pressure, some can't because they are sensitive and can break easily. U would wanna look at their max SPL.

[stiff raptor]

Classic 57?

[glacial portal]

U can beat the shit out of it.

Dynamics are designed to be pushed.

[copper portal]

My music technology teacher has had the same one for 20 years

And his dad ran it over

I imagine thin air isn’t going to hurt it :)

[glacial portal]

Dynamics are nothing but a coil attached to a diaphragm (well most are) and as they go BOING when sound is introduced, they move in the magnetic field and records said sound.

[stiff raptor]

Yup

[glacial portal]

So TLDR, go wild when it comes to a 57. Be more careful when it comes to Condenser and Ribbon mics tho

[stiff raptor]

Gotcha gotcha

[copper portal]

U87 on the kick drum fr 🙏🙏🙏🙏

(Do not do this)

[glacial portal]

You can use any mic on anything, but some are better for certain things than others.

[glacial portal]

Try a BETA 52A

[zinc coral]

ive seen some using sm7b on kicks

[grave marlin]

Goated mic. Industrial workhorse. It's like the AK47 of mics. Cheap, reliable, does its job well, and you can beat the ever living shit out of it.

[stiff raptor]

i love me a classic 57

we've got a few we use for my band

i also have the audix d7 (i believe) mic kit

[grave marlin]

Fantastic for micing cabs and for snares

[stiff raptor]

ah Audix DP7

fantastic set of mics and the D6 sounds AMAZING on kicks

[grave marlin]

Watching someone rip a kit with this set rn. Sounds fantastic. Just as a question, do you use the i5 on your snare and have you tried the sm57 on it?

[stiff raptor]

I haven't yet had the chance to use the set yet cause we finished recording the album before i bought the mic set

Last time we mic'd our snare was with the 57 though!

Soon enough i plan on making my own custom midi drumkit by using the DP7 kit to record a bunch of oneshots and velocity samples

[grave marlin]

Lemme know how you like the i5 in comparison to a 57 as a snare mic next time youre playing with it. Though I mainline vocals and have been doing so for the better part of the last decade, I started life as a wee little drummer boy. No space for a kit in my last few living situations but eventually, like kinda soon maybe this year or next, im tryna buy a house and I will DEFINITELY be putting a kit in there and dusting off the ol sticks.

[stiff raptor]

For sure! Since i'm gonna be recording all the drums as oneshots separately, i can use ALL of the mics on a single drum including a 57

and then i can pick and choose which i like most

[grave marlin]

Blend em together, make an i57 😂

[stiff raptor]

I shall!

probably will be blending alot

also using some AKG p120s as rooms

[grave marlin]

I'm such a bitch for cool mics

[zinc coral]

Sounds like an apple product

[grave marlin]

How do you like the AKG?

[stiff raptor]

SAME

[stiff raptor]

Amazing, super reliable

i have 2 of them

They sound GREAT as vocal mics

[grave marlin]

Interesting. I was wondering what yall used for vox. I've been considering grabbing an SM7B simply because untreated room and im a loud boomy mother fucker. I like my 57 on vox but kind of want to see what that sm7b life is like.

[stiff raptor]

Yeah we've used the P120s for vox since the beginning

I never really saw the need to get an SM7B because i was so happy with how the P120 sounds

P120 also has a -20db pad and highpass switch

[grave marlin]

bought an at2035 like 5 years ago as my first (and still only) condenser mic and I gotta say, I dont love it.

[stiff raptor]

Oh that's the audio technica replica of it right

[grave marlin]

Had no idea it was a replica lmao

but yeah its very comparable in terms of price range

[stiff raptor]

Well not exactly a replica but i know the at2020 is like a carbon copy of the p120

I know the Audio Technica stuff is more catered to gamers and podcasters, and the AKG stuff is catered to musicians

[grave marlin]

Yeah I dont love the 2035. Its very warm. Like, too warm for me and what I like.

[stiff raptor]

Oh yeah I've also used the p120 to mic acoustic guitar, sounds stellar

Super tight and bright