Music Production

[stiff raptor]

downloading

[stiff raptor]

drop C in 2025

OUT WITH THE LOW TUNINGS!!!

@glacial portal

[glacial portal]

That sounds cool as fuck!

[stiff raptor]

yuhh

kinda in the style of broadway and alive like me

and a little Of Machines

[glacial portal]

Never heard of anything of those.

[stiff raptor]

all three are incredible

if you want good post hardcore listen to them

[glacial portal]

Hell yeah.

https://youtu.be/nh_NOkycLCw?si=XbNYByOyURHNOAIK

@stiff raptor this be the type of shit I learned to play.

[stiff raptor]

this is an interesting blend of styles

sounds like if melodic metalcore and dad rock had a baby

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/ilVJP3ZXYoA?si=4bTueLvKqOYgqohN

This too.

[stiff raptor]

i like this one more probably

reminds me of demon hunter for some reason

[glacial portal]

The Tremonster is a beastly guitar player.

[stiff raptor]

the tremonster LMAO

but yeah wild guitar work

[glacial portal]

Here's a older project I made while I was still learning to mix. I wanna go back and remix it.

I mean I'm still learning to mix but y'know.

Earlier. I made this maybe 2 years ago now.

[stiff raptor]

still insane for a beginner mix

way better than my first mix lol

tbf i started when i was 10

[glacial portal]

I wrote this one for the sake of writing lol. The Break the Glass stuff I have littered around this server is like a series of personal experimental stuff.

[stiff raptor]

oh sick

[glacial portal]

So I'll experiment with writing differently or mixing differently. Sometimes the riffs come out and goes into that sub category for later.

I'm not a very technical player so I have to push myself to try new things and incorporate them into my style. Oh and by the way a lot of the stuff in that stuff is all downpicking.

[stiff raptor]

james hetfield core lol

yeah no i typically downpick as much as possible when tracking, because it just sounds cleaner

live i do whatever for the sake of my wrists haha

i tend to use whatever pick style is most efficient for the riff

[glacial portal]

Lol idk how to alternate pick that well and will only do it if my wrist gets tired. But I downpick a LOT so it takes a while lol.

[stiff raptor]

alternate picking is just down/up repeated

you seem like a skilled guitarist already so alternate picking should honestly be your next step

practice tremelo specifically

tremelo picking gets your alternate picking way faster

[glacial portal]

Idk about skilled I'm a caveman XD

Buuut I try

[stiff raptor]

nah youre severely undershooting your skill level

how old are you

[glacial portal]

26

[stiff raptor]

i was debating if you were lying about when you started cause your stuff genuinely is way better than most people starting out in music

you got a musical family?

[glacial portal]

Kinda. My GPA was in a doowop (I think that's how you spell it) band way back in the 60s and 70s, and my dad was a DJ through the 90s.

[stiff raptor]

oh sick

i meant like

if your siblings and parents were also musically talented

[glacial portal]

I don't have siblings lol.

And the rest of my family are more into other things. I'm sorta the black sheep of the family in a way XD

[stiff raptor]

ahh interesting

you definitely got a knack for it

[glacial portal]

I actually started as a drummer first.

[stiff raptor]

ahh yeah

already have a good understanding of what drum midi is physically possible to play or not LOL

[glacial portal]

I played guitar on the side when I was young just cuz nu metal was a thing and angry guitars make brain go brrr.

[stiff raptor]

very true

let me send you one of my earliest metal mixes

its

really bad lol

forgot what folder i have it in lmao

[glacial portal]

Lol

[stiff raptor]

i was like 14 i think

[glacial portal]

Not bad for a 14 yro.

[stiff raptor]

its really bad LOL

as soon as the guitars come in i always laugh cause it just smashes the entire mix

[glacial portal]

Nah for a 14 year old it's not bad

I wasn't mixing at 14.

I was looking at gear at 14.

[stiff raptor]

LOL

[glacial portal]

Going into my local rehearsal studio autistically looking at Mesa amps cuz I wanted one (still do but no room RIP) and being a band was fun.

I didnt start looking into mixing until I was in my 20s and the band had dissolved.

[stiff raptor]

have any music from your band?

id love to check it out

[glacial portal]

Sadly no. Wish we did but we didn't get to the recording part lol...

[stiff raptor]

no youtube recordings?

[glacial portal]

Nope. I've memorized the songs tho and how they go.

[stiff raptor]

oh sick, maybe you could write em into new demos

[umbral forge]

I've been mostly trying to produce EDM atm and wanna get back into making metal. But I just can't seem to get riffs going, anyone else faced the same before and any suggetsions on how to get back into it?

[stiff raptor]

identify the style of metal you want to create
listen to and practice a ton of riffs in that style
combine elements of what you learned to make your own riffs

[tropic marsh]

i miss the streams man, it was cool af haning out with other metalheads with a proper host

[zinc coral]

when geometry dash obtains a 7 string

here is a song, it is a song that is songy

[main stream]

Is it a smart idea to independently release a debut ep or just have demos pre getting signed

[stiff raptor]

If you're making metal, getting signed isn't the way to go

Unless somehow you score a deal with a huge label, most of what you can do can be done independently with good marketing

[main stream]

Noted

Im trying to like get an idea of how doing this stuff in a metalcore band long term works

[stiff raptor]

If your band has plans to play live

Grind doing shows

Do a ton of shows

Climb your way up the scene by talking to other bands, promoters, and connections

But overall

WRITE INTERESTING MUSIC

That matters most

You can do all those things and go nowhere if your music is boring

Have a target audience

My band has a song with almost 60k streams and we've been together since late 2023

We are unsigned

We just did tons of shows and played with bands who are bigger than us

Talked to promoters, and have a super active social media

And our debut album has almost 200k streams alltogether

Write good music and do a ton of shows lol

[main stream]

very good information

what is your band if I might ask

[stiff raptor]

Unbroken Reign

[main stream]

I'll be sure to give the album a listen

[stiff raptor]

Ayy ty

[main stream]

of course

I love trying to find smaller bands and I just love metalcore so yeah

[stiff raptor]

Oh fire

[grand jasper]

I actually used a six string strat

[rich thorn]

YOOOO the albums diree

Fireee

Love to see some Christian metal

And done well

[zinc coral]

thoughts?

[minor flame]

dope

[zinc coral]

so what should i do again?

[zinc coral]

hell yeah, stratocasters are great

[stiff raptor]

?

[zinc coral]

you just said do shows like 5 times lol

[stiff raptor]

yeah? 💀

its important

what you repeat is what people remember

[zinc coral]

yeah i completly agree i thought it was just funny how many times you said it

hey i remixed one of my songs, i think it sounds simmilar to yours

[grand jasper]

i second that

[umbral forge]

does anyone know how i can make the kick more noticable? I have it sidechained but it's still not coming through

[zinc coral]

@stiff raptor there is no audio but this is what i have for brood of vipers

im gonna edit in the audio

it is quite laggy

@stiff raptor with audio

oh come on it cut off

[zinc coral]

add some low end

[stiff raptor]

https://xenonmusic.github.io/

just updated my portfolio! if anyone is interested in production work, check out my site here for samples of my work

[grand jasper]

ayy pretty cool site

[grand jasper]

turns out i did not have any procession on guitar outside of DI shaping and amp itself... lol

[zinc coral]

hey does anyone know how to get impacts to sit correctly? i cant seem to

still sounds a bit off

[merry horizon]

To my loudness war warriors out there... how many LUFS is too high and too low in your opinion? Asking for a friend 😏

[proven falcon]

For a music making competition

Most likely might be shit

[zinc coral]

first real atempt at production

thoghts

[stiff raptor]

TWO FREE SNAREBOMBS FOR ANYONE TO USE

[ruby jay]

I like this one

[stiff raptor]

gotta have the reverse

this is one that ive used for a while

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/a55cOz2Pu_M?si=vj_teZXh4wuBn74T

[zinc coral]

cool little piano thing

[stiff raptor]

i dont always post here but i'm proud af of this

[grand jasper]

i was searching stuff through refx nexus 2 presets and i found the preset used in outro part of attack attack - lonely

[ruby jay]

https://youtu.be/Gu44gDmhAzg

ancient synth gets an upgrade 🥹

the mutate feature is interesting

[zinc coral]

gaddam

[zinc coral]

i wish i could write shit like thiss

[stiff raptor]

Use chugs

Lol

The stuff you write sounds like indie rock to me

Learn more metalcore style chugging

[zinc coral]

like dis?

[minor flame]

Love the synth use on this. Good shit

Maybe a bit too loud for my taste but that's besides the point

[zinc coral]

inspired by nick broom hall hes sick

[ruby jay]

I miss nik nocturnal

[stiff raptor]

I mean this is cool but not close to my example at all lmao

[stiff raptor]

your drums sound pretty overprocessed here, and too loud compared to the guitar especially

guitar and bass are too quiet

The mix is pretty muddy overall as well

[zinc coral]

they are?

[stiff raptor]

Yep

Or the drums are too loud

[zinc coral]

ok lemme try that

[zinc coral]

its not really a muddy mix i just suck at playing metalcore so the playing is a bit messy

[stiff raptor]

No the playing isnt the issue

The mix itself is pretty muddy

[zinc coral]

how do i fix that

also hell yeah thanks for the theme @stiff raptor

[stiff raptor]

the guitar and bass are clashing

overlapping low frequencies

try to pull up a song you like and see how similar you can get the mix to sound

and try using less processing in general

[zinc coral]

oki

[zinc coral]

what about this?

[stiff raptor]

that's a little better

dont be afraid to use even less processing

[pliant tree]

well i found all of the discord halloween ringtone presets 😭

[stiff raptor]

mixing random stems i found part 29392

pretty proud of this one

[stiff raptor]

@slow haven

[slow haven]

GRACIAS

[zinc coral]

thats sick

[grand jasper]

Nice

[zinc coral]

not metal but still sounds cool

[ruby jay]

onto some goofy shit

[grand jasper]

oh isn't it the snare bomb from drumshotz joel wanasek

[ruby jay]

yes

guilty as charged

[visual pine]

I wanna publish my music, i read about ditrokid and ascap but how do i protect my copyrights?

from what i understood those are for royalties

[ruby jay]

bro at this point big conglomerates do not care of copyright protection or originality, especially Music generating AI companies, it's a dog eat dog world out there.
Nowadays in the music business profit is valued more over artistry and individuality

[lavish tinsel]

what genre are both of these songs? idk what they even are

[zinc coral]

hahaha

[visual pine]

doom, argent metal

mick gordon idk

did you make them?

[lavish tinsel]

yh

[visual pine]

sounds crazy

theres so much AI these days that i can belive anything anymore

sounds dope

[lavish tinsel]

ty bro, appreciate it

[lavish tinsel]

also ignore the last 10 seconds of random ahh metal

was messing about with my friend cos still waiting by sum41 sounds weird on apple music, didnt mean to leave it in lol

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/46tzEXr8rTY?

[azure gull]

Hey I just got some parts of my music setup started

So I can record quietly

any recommendations for speakers? budget really isn’t a big issue

mainly play like Post hardcore metalcore etc in a lot of diff tunings ig

[glacial portal]

Speakers are VERY subjective. Something that someone likes you may hate and vice versa. I highly suggest you try some whether be at a Guitar Center or local music and audio shop. I can give you some to look at. Particularly Yamaha, Kali Audio, and Adam Audio seem to be the more popular ones.

[azure gull]

I saw Yamaha HS7s being commonly suggested

I’ve got an Apollo USB solo + Neural DSP and reaper to create

so idk if that’ll change much

And then these two beauties

[glacial portal]

Yeah the HS7s are really popular because they are relatively flat. There are also JBL speakers that are popular. Personally I don't like Yamaha's at all and prefer Adam Audio. But I understand people don't like Adam Audio ones much because they use a ribbon tweeder and it messes with their sense of where the bass is.

[azure gull]

hm

I’ll do my research

I’m planning to get em next pay day so I got time

[glacial portal]

Yeah its all about research. Find a song or a mix you like and play it through the speakers to test em. Test about 2 to 3 sets at a time until you find a pair you like.

[azure gull]

I’ve been tryna learn this one song by In hearts wake recently

Cos I love the sound

Earthwalker

Drop G# 7 string

[glacial portal]

Yeee

At the end of the day though remember, it's all personal preference, your ear will guide you. Research will only help so much until you actually hear the speakers.

[azure gull]

True

thank a lot mate

[glacial portal]

Np brotha man.

[slow haven]

does anyone have a good cymbal riser they can spare a brother

[zinc coral]

yeah sure

[slow haven]

thank you brother

[ruby jay]

joel wanasek crash 🤫

[zinc coral]

made a free writing template for rock and metal, PLUGINS NEEDED: Archetype Plini, Ozone 12 eq, GGD nu metal, Vital 2, flux mini. (All plugins are easily replicable exept for ozone) Anyone intrested?

[stiff raptor]

mixed some multis

first one is the og mix, second is my mix of it

pretty proud of it

[grand jasper]

is it like the reference mix from the where you got the stems? it sounds different from album version

your mix sounds much better btw

[grand jasper]

trying to record some vox

[stiff raptor]

Yes

I didn't know it was attack attack til after i finished it lol

Thought it was a random band's song

[grand jasper]

attack attack's version sounds too compressed in my opinion

[stiff raptor]

Guitar tone and drums are mad weird on their version

[grand jasper]

snare's transients are nonexistent there

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/P4UDqy2fOt4?

[glacial portal]

https://www.toontrack.com/product/infinity-grid-ezx/

The boys in Tesseract have graced us with their own EZX pack!

Also November is Metal Month at Toontrack so that got a shit ton on sale rn!

[stiff raptor]

good steals!

[zinc coral]

can someone send me some stems i want to mix somthing'

[tropic stream]

Today I decided fuck it, I'm gonna make metalcore without instruments because I want to experiment more, this still needs lots of work done but this is basically what ive got so far

[tropic stream]

Completed

[stiff raptor]

https://youtu.be/nNk2FE3MH9M

[zinc coral]

I wonder if this guy screams at his clients as well

That’d be hilarious

[zinc coral]

Eyyyy fellow abletonist

[stiff raptor]

What

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/mgxg0H4d0LI?

[glacial portal]

https://mixwave.com/products/manuel-gardner-fernandes

[zinc coral]

Just looking back at this, are my drums still over processed @stiff raptor

[stiff raptor]

They just don't sound that good

specifically the kick and snare

its just how theyre processed

kick sounds really thumpy and the snare sounds honky

[zinc coral]

Well how would you do it

[stiff raptor]

We've been over this 😭

[zinc coral]

I just feel like nothing is super bad with them

[stiff raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uZAIkT3MqQ

[stiff raptor]

Part of getting better is realizing there is always room for improvement

Compare your drums to a reference by a pro

[zinc coral]

Oh absolutely I’m all for that, but I still don’t know what’s wrong

[stiff raptor]

Compare your process to the video

[zinc coral]

Mine are less processed

I don’t understand lol jpw says they are fine

[stiff raptor]

Jpw?

[zinc coral]

James Paul wisner

[zinc coral]

And he has 50yrs of experience so don’t go that way haha

[stiff raptor]

You have a lot to learn

[naive fiber]

Yo guys has anybody used ample metal hellraiser before? What was your experience? I used the demo and it sounds incredible to me, but the demo died before i could save anything lmao, was wondering what others experiences with it was

[past shell]

The drums are lacking top end. Infact, this whole mix sounds like it's got a low shelf boost at 80-100hz and a lot of high end removed. The bass is far too ontop of the mix and has nothing but one sine wave at the note it's playing. Mids, low mids, and top end are equally important for bass in this genre as guitar and all other instruments.

[zinc coral]

yeah obv

[zinc coral]

ill fix that now

[wise raven]

thing i made for one of my IRL friends to pick up guitar again so he can have something cool and fun to play while it's still quite easy

[pliant tree]

im making a menu song for someones game out of boredom and idk what can i do to make it sound more interesting mix wise, im planning for it to be about 3 mins long, meant to be steampunk/industrial

[grave marlin]

Waves is giving away a pretty decent new plugin today for those looking for a punchy yet still smooth compressor. The Magma StressBox. Single knob plugin, seems pretty musical, the demos sound really nice. It's like the BB Tubes compressor in a lite form.
https://www.waves.com/plugins/magma-stressbox

[ruby jay]

I don't trust single knobs

They add some crazy back end processing that cannot be controlled

Especially the waves stuff

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/VgG73532TXg?

[grave marlin]

Played with it a bit. I like it on kicks and in general on drums, also sounds nice on bass. It does quite a bit with a little push of the knob, you're absolutely right, but it does make things more punchy and up front with a bit of distortion. I paired it on a drum track with an LA2A for some smoothness and it added this up front knock that I kind of actually dig. I can see this being used well on metal drums and bass that need a little something extra especially if paired with other tools. I'm sure there's a ton of other tools for this, but hey it was free lol.

[stiff raptor]

The only (semi) one knob plugin i love is Gain Reduction by JST

works so well on scream vox

[flat oar]

100%

i use this with another one knob wonder which is by coincidence the exciter from waves

called aphex aural vintage exciter

[stiff raptor]

ah yes

i havent gotten into the waves plugins that much mostly cause im trying to move my workflow to as many free plugs as possible (to prove that you can get a pro sound without having to pay)

[grave marlin]

I have too many waves plugins at this point lmao

[stiff raptor]

i like using alot of obscure plugins

[marsh spindle]

https://x.com/i/status/1995154378282652104

𝔰𝔫𝔢𝔞𝗄𝔶 (@Sneaky_Haxor)

korneff happy beats

X · Nov 30, 2025, 3:34 PM

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/SWh8UkBvd6s?

[ruby jay]

back to using Modern and Massive

[pliant tree]

anyone happen to know what kind of filter is on these drums? at least i think theyre drums 😭

[ruby jay]

sounds like fart pedal blended in with some slapback delay, reverb and some eq automation dipping out high frequencies

probably the number two version

[stiff raptor]

i hate that you're exactly right

LOL

[grand jasper]

i really like mdl tones ultimate heavy drums

[grand jasper]

i think the drums here sound really similar to early 2010s sturgis

[stiff raptor]

If you wanna be exact, he used SSD4 with Kick 12 and Snare 13a

[stiff raptor]

Great mix

[grand jasper]

ty

[stiff raptor]

Listening on car speakers tho

So my perspective is warped

[grand jasper]

i can hear some spikiness though

especially in fills

[stiff raptor]

We should work on something together, this is right up my alley

Is your gtr programmed or just very tightly edited

Cant tell cause car speakers

[grand jasper]

programmed cuz too lazy to take the real one

[stiff raptor]

Lmao

We gotta write a song tgt, i like your writing

[grand jasper]

btw i finally learned how to play 5-7-8 on guitar

[stiff raptor]

based

The best riff of all time

[grand jasper]

yes

and i finally can play a lot of tracks now

i was absent here for this long because discord got blocked

like it was actually blocked in 2024 but i had a bypass

and now i have to enable vpn every time i want to go in discord

[grand jasper]

i used mdl ultimate heavy drums "can you feel my snare" snapshot + kick thump & snare smoke from sturgis drumshotz

[grand jasper]

i like how everything sounds like on my new phone

[stiff raptor]

Why

Geoblocking by russia?

Or like

Parental controls

LOL

[grand jasper]

geoblocking in russia

[stiff raptor]

Dang

[grand jasper]

did he edit them?

i'm playing with ssd4 now

like i mean did he mix them

[stiff raptor]

Oh yeah they're mixed

[grand jasper]

i'm recreating the murder mitten breakdown rn and they're really similar even without any post mixing on ssd

btw did sturgis use the same snare for attack attack 2010 self titled ?

[grand jasper]

@stiff raptor

[stiff raptor]

It's likely

I cant recall

All i know is he mainly used ssd4 samples (namely snare 13a) and custom ones

[grand jasper]

tried to do some stuff with ssd4
(i know that the snare is too quiet but i have troubles with routing stuff rn)

[stiff raptor]

That sounds sick

[grand jasper]

i kinda took inspiration from asking alexandria

[grand jasper]

i was once possibly maybe perhaps a cowboy king

damn these track titles from stand up and scream

[grand jasper]

what i made so far

[grand jasper]

@stiff raptor

[stiff raptor]

back on my monitors

[stiff raptor]

very sturgis sounding drums

[grand jasper]

i managed to fix snare

[stiff raptor]

Yep

sounds just like his LOL

the snare is a little pokey

but i like the arrangement alot

[grand jasper]

i finally released my inner sturgis

[stiff raptor]

LOL

[grand jasper]

and i used sorry you're not a winner riff in the end lol

[stiff raptor]

LOL

[glacial portal]

HOLY SHIT I JUST DISCOVERED SOMETHING.

[zinc coral]

what?

[glacial portal]

Okay so you may or may not know there are multiple types of saturation like tape, tube, etc. WELL you see saturation can be used to do stuff like control peaks which is great for stuff like bass, drums, and vocals but NOT great on stuff like guitar. Specifically tube saturation is not great on guitar and the reason WHY I say this is because while yes it can add harmonics and control your peaks, it alsoo can make your guitars less focused in the mix depending on how much you're applying, because, especially for metal, your guitars are already saturated af!

Now mind you in my particular testing it only does this with tube saturation and not tape saturation (which I find weird) and I could be COMPLETELY fuckin wrong and not understand how shit works (as I often do) but man I know what my ears tell me.

[grand jasper]

Hmmmm

[grand jasper]

@stiff raptor

am i sturgis jr

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/QSKYZ7KF5xU?

[stiff raptor]

Heat

[grand jasper]

So basically sturgis jr

[minor flame]

the redesigned mixer looks insane

also Craig Reynolds grooves included is just gold

[glacial portal]

@stiff raptor Am I right or nah?

[stiff raptor]

I mean yeah

No need to add distortion on top of more distortion

Sounds funky

[grand jasper]

added a bit of saturation on drum bus here

[glacial portal]

Not sure why it does that with tube saturation and not tape saturation tho.

But its something I've noticed.

[zinc coral]

i lost you at okay...

[glacial portal]

PFFFFT

[zinc coral]

hahaaa

[glacial portal]

Wot u confused about.

[zinc coral]

im joking i understand haha

[glacial portal]

Oh okay XD

[zinc coral]

how is this so much better

[grand jasper]

oh i think I can use it without vpn now

[grand jasper]

@stiff raptor

[zinc coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409513036565188674/1449736766243340288/spanish_thing_that_i_dont_know_why_im_mixing.mp3?ex=693ffc13&is=693eaa93&hm=a8297f0dd9b988d9697b7a51e8bab1723a7681a5930068600c4c5521700df9a2& mixed this

[flat oar]

which album?

i thought it was kick 10 snare 12a or something unless thats just a myth lol xd

[stiff raptor]

oh wait ur right

i got the numbers wrong

he did use snare 13a too as well iirc

[flat oar]

yeah i think so

[grand jasper]

i think he used 13a for iss new demons

[grave marlin]

Banger song. Unrelated to production, but just have to say it.

[grand jasper]

murder mitten my fav

but also i like "We're Not in Kansas Anymore" and "Crystal Ball"

[grave marlin]

Murden Mitten is a classic. NZT48, Endless Sky, and End of the World Party also slap. Honestly their first like 3-4 albums are hype.
Edit: Had to add Filth Friends Unite. Banger and a half.

[stiff raptor]

I love all of those albums but End of the World party is my top from them

Peak electronicore stuff

and i like cameron mizell's production on that album more than Joey's on their following albums

[grave marlin]

Cameron is underrated

[stiff raptor]

His prod style is my hyperfixation lol /hj

Most of the tricks i know i learned from studying his stuff

I've chatted with him a few times as well, love his work

[grave marlin]

I like how big and fat his stuff always sounds.

[stiff raptor]

I specifically love his drum mixes

They're never bland sounding

And usually pretty polarizing due to that

[stiff raptor]

im doing an album for a client in the mizell style actually, they have one single out so far

https://open.spotify.com/album/4xA6XNIHFSvvN97YYkUf8i

pretty happy with how it turned out! i think its pretty close

[grave marlin]

Oh yeah that's straight up Mizellified. Actually sick dude. Sounds great in my headphones. The drums are great, love the weight and presence in the kick and snare. Sounds like it came right outta Chango. And the performance of the band, definitely throwing that in rotation

[stiff raptor]

thanks so much bro! im super excited to help bring this style back lmao

we need more unique sounding stuff in 2026

[grave marlin]

Absolutely. Shits too clean now. Industrialized. We need to bring back some weight and umph to shit. 😄

[stiff raptor]

YES

that and some grit

[grave marlin]

FACTS

[stiff raptor]

i'd prefer a dirty raw sounding unique mix than an uber-clean sterile mix with no balls to it

[grave marlin]

For real. Bring some realness back to the sound.

[stiff raptor]

part of why i hate the buster kit 😂

[grave marlin]

I was looking into SSD5.5 (because of this chat) as its on sale. They sound insane tbh.

[stiff raptor]

bro this is what i used to use when i started making metal, i have the hihat sound burned into my brain 😭

i dont think i could ever use this one again LOL

it would be a fun challenge, tbh

[grave marlin]

Any tips on a decent free drum plugin that I can use the reaper note editor thing to create beats with? lmao
I plan on recording some shit with my dad soon using the Misha Mansoor Neural DSP amp sim and just need something to write drums on. Dude shreds. Sadly my apartment cant fit my e-kit or I'd simply record them myself.

[stiff raptor]

99% of the drums i use are free funnily enough

the non-mizell ones

that modern demo i sent a while back is a mishmash of free resources

if you want, i can dm you and show you my entire setup. it's pretty gruelling to setup but once you do you're basically set for life lol

and its easy to swap out samples and stuff

[grave marlin]

I knew to ask you, I remember your crusade to use freeware and get a pro sound (which I appreciate as a broke ass bitch myself) lol
Sure thing man. I appreciate it!

[stiff raptor]

Crusade is the perfect word for it

[past shell]

Pretty cool idea

I've wondered in the past how far i'd get with only free vsts

it takes away a lot of creative freedom from me personally, i know my tools and i like them

[ruby jay]

limiting resources breeds creativity

I'm considering uninstalling all my pirated mixing plugins

[lavish tinsel]

Guys what genre is this?

[grand jasper]

I love how "3D" album sounds like

The snare is giant

[zinc coral]

@past shell @stiff raptor I finaly understand it! this mix is entirly free, thoughts?

[stiff raptor]

drums sound a lot better than before

bass is still very loud and drowning out the guitars

rhythm guitars need to come up a ton and bass needs to come down

[flat oar]

@stiff raptor hows this xd

[flat oar]

lol i was just using the fop kit up until i posted that new clip with my own mirar type drum kit setup

chango studios fop kit for the 3d sound but it just didnt slap or clap too hard for some odd reason i guess lol like maybe the fop kit samples i downloaded werent all too perfectly premixed or it wasnt the exact same i see stars kit

[sharp elk]

we got the next skrillex dude, ur going hard asssfffffff

[stiff raptor]

Not sure how i feel about this

Arrangement is sick

Do you have more processing on the fop kit?

The fop kit is already fully processed

[flat oar]

nope this isnt a fop kit anymore

just my own mirar inspired drum kit where i tried to make it a lot like theirs

[stiff raptor]

Ah

Kick sounds like fop

[flat oar]

LOL

kick 10

xd

[stiff raptor]

Ah

[flat oar]

and it might be like detuned by 35 in ssd 5.5

i think that equates to 3.5 semitones

whys your name the rise core dealer? is there an origin story?

[flat oar]

you dont like the snare?

👀

[stiff raptor]

nah it sounds weird

the mix overall is pretty weirdly balanced

the kick sounds like its lacking alot of low end and the snare sounds like a thunk lol

[flat oar]

i just upgraded my mix. is this better? someone else also said the mix was too thin earlier lol

the snare is a bit darker here idk if u can tell and i changed the bass and guitar tones to be thicker and the kick is just louder

i kind of want to keep the snare having the same mirar character but if anything, i should change the eq if needed still

[stiff raptor]

it honestly still needs alot of work, i might suggest starting from scratch

its kind of a lot of things wrong at once lol

if you want like exact feedback i can give it, but i dont wanna just sit here picking apart your mix haha

[flat oar]

mb i didnt think it needed much work but at the same time i dont have the golden professional ears as of rn lol

what does exact feedback look like if im starting new?

step by step help while showing progress?

[stiff raptor]

i can give you some pointers but doing a step by step in depth walk through is not something i can currently dedicate my time to

I would recommend looking into this guy on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/@FrightboxRecording/videos

he has some of the best advice when it comes to mixing metal

[zinc coral]

The guitar sounds wrong, I think you should turn it down and darken it a Little, the kick sounds too flabby in my opinion as well

[flat oar]

thanks i took your advice. i pitched it back to default lol from -3.5 semitones

i think i wanna keep this guitar tone as is though actually cuz this scooped sound is sick and badass to me lowkey

[zinc coral]

fair

[zinc coral]

there is a lot of mixed imformation on this but what should i use for mixing? headphones or monitors

[grave marlin]

Truly? Monitors. But you need a well treated space for them to read right. They're an investment in both money and time but worth it. Headphones are also good though, though hit or miss. You'd need to do research on a good pair. I've seen that open back are better for mixing because they present a more natural sound stage whereas closed back are better for recording because no bleed. A good idea with headphone mixing in general is to simply render it out and listen to it back on as many different things as you can. Your phone, your PC speakers, your car, your favorite bluetooth boomer, etc. That way you can make mental notes to achieve a balanced mix if you find that a mix sounds good in your cans but not elsewhere.

[stiff raptor]

Very good advice. I will add though, if you are very comfortable with the device you're listening on (given its more than halfway decent and isn't absolutely terrible) you should be able to take note of the discrepancies of how your device sounds and still make good mixes

E.g. if i have headphones that have too much bass, and i know this, i can compensate by making sure i don't put too little bass in my mixes even though it may sound like too much on my headphones

Listening on multiple devices does help

But if your mix sounds great on flat monitors, it'll sound great on any device

[grave marlin]

^That

[stiff raptor]

@grave marlin side question, have any advice on treating a room with monitors? I have some pretty great monitors and my room is an untreated bedroom with carpet

I have some acoustic paneling (the real kind) i plan on putting up but not really sure where

Or where matters most

[zinc coral]

yeah i need that to, have you done an MATT test?

[grave marlin]

I'm no expert but from looking into it recently (same mostly untreated bedroom) you have to look into your monitors manual and it should give you the best setup with the ideal angles for those monitors, then you just math it from there to figure out where that sounds gonna bounce and resonate the hardest so you can pad those areas. I know there's some decent YouTube tutorials on the ideal way, just don't have em saved lol

[zinc coral]

@stiff raptor https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_matt.php i recommend doing this to see how seriously you need it

my room is fucked lol

[grave marlin]

I mix in headphones myself because of my living space. Shoebox apartment with thin ass walls. Neighbors love it when I'm recording, let me tell you. So out of courtesy, headphone mixing it is. Plus, I can't help but sit there twiddling virtual knobs til like 3am and that'd be plain rude 😂😂

[stiff raptor]

Gotcha

[stiff raptor]

I notice that when i mix and go back and forth between my monitors and headphones it sounds the best

[grave marlin]

Oh absolutely. Your mixes are always balanced as hell but still sound big, going back and forth probably helps with that.

[zinc coral]

@stiff raptor did you do this?

[stiff raptor]

its not really helpful cause i dont really know what im listening for

[zinc coral]

just read the instructions on the website

[stiff raptor]

yeah it wasn't very helpful, just watched a 90 second video on finding early reflection spots 👍

[zinc coral]

oh ok!

wrote this

im about to re do the drums they were just stereo for the draft

[zinc coral]

new processing

im having a little problem with the snare

[zinc coral]

guitars down 1st off, 2nd have you sent your reverbs to a different track? they sound to low endy

[flat oar]

there was just too many highs but i fixed it. and guitar reverbs like for a lead tone? i just use the mix knob

[zinc coral]

what daw do you use

[sullen nymph]

+Sound Effects, the+

[zinc coral]

ML drums

[sullen nymph]

Indeed

[zinc coral]

so iconic

[sullen nymph]

Yeah

I love that kit ngl

[flat oar]

cubase

[magic gust]

i think youre processing everything way too much, try and getting your mix down using only your source plugins to start. So dial your amp using only the plugin youre using, same for bass n drums then fix your volumes. right now everything is super over processed and i think your only making it worse for yourself trying to fix it because there is so much going on.

[flat oar]

i see what you mean but im not gonna start over cuz thats something i do only when my mix is going too horribly wrong and i personally prefer top down mixing meaning starting from where i last left off in the project. just how i choose to improve and work on things instead of starting from scratch but i have another version to post in a minute since that other one is a few days old now

[sullen nymph]

wawa

[flat oar]

wow this is awesome

very robotic character

like futuristic

some kinda wobbly effect going on even

it might be hard to make my snare work out and i might have to reintroduce one of my real snare layers attack cuz the attack is only 2 layered trance kick drums atm though

but this is an experimental mix here like a total experiment i would say

[magic gust]

i personally think you could learn alot from restarting your mix. itl help you understand what could be the prblem in your previous versions which because there is so much going on you might right now be blinded by. but its your creative process so please do so however you want man keep it up!

[flat oar]

but because its experimental and like mirar influenced, im trying not to scrap this and start over

3 days laters mix

yeah the drum kit might not be working out

[magic gust]

what are you mixing your track on?

what headphones or speakers?

[flat oar]

ah the master is so distorted nvm

im using headphones and bluetooth noise cancelling earbuds too

[magic gust]

if you want to we can go in a vc ill help you out

[flat oar]

my monitors are kind of bad

i cant screenshare cubases sound unfortunately

it doesnt work for me

[magic gust]

you 100% sure?

have you tried using the voxengo recorder method?

works for me in cubase

[flat oar]

oh i never heard of that

i could try it

[magic gust]

https://www.voxengo.com/product/recorder/

you set the output to mme and mme device to something you dont use like waves drivers

@flat oar

if you need help setting it up lmk

[flat oar]

@magic gust is this decent for improvement? XD

[stiff raptor]

the guitars sound super muffled and the drums are extremely clicky

if you want, you can send the raw stems of your project to me and ill mix a preview of it to give you an idea of how your mix could sound

[flat oar]

ty i'll send em over soon

[stiff raptor]

yeah just make sure all fx plugins are turned off

master channel as well

[flat oar]

i'll post one more mix for now here. but once you post your own version of mine, should i just use it as reference for my next mix practice?

[stiff raptor]

yes!

[flat oar]

im using the thall amp for my guitars btw, do you think this works well? and when i di matched then my signal got a lot brighter

cuz i have ndsp's misha mansoor vst too

i'll make the stems now

[stiff raptor]

here's my take on a section of this mix

wasn't super easy with the stems, most of them need to be rerecorded

but i think it sounds pretty okay despite that lol

also just gonna drop this here

original composition, production, mix, and master by me, with ubrscreamer on scream vox as usual

this one was for a 3-day contest, wasn't really sweating the craziest mix ever

but i think it turned out pretty good for what it was

i also took some creative liberties like the ridiculously loud sub drop lol

[lavish tinsel]

Can someone lmk what they think abt the solo? On phone it don’t show how far u are in but how longs left, and it’s at 1:37 left. Also what genre is this song?

[stiff raptor]

i def wouldnt say djentcore, kinda reminds me of old korn stuff lol

[lavish tinsel]

oh ok, ty bro

[zinc coral]

hey @stiff raptor are you in australia rn?

i just saw someone that looked identical to you walking next to someone that looked like the screamer guy

[stiff raptor]

What😭

No bro😭

[zinc coral]

oh lol

welp

you have a doppelganger

[stiff raptor]

My doppelganger is the singer of collective dust

[zinc coral]

you have 2 lol

are your monitors meant to be angled like that?

i thought they need to be an equilateral triangle between themselfs and the mixing position

fair

also if you can, get the monitors out of the corners. its a super big deal apparently

[stiff raptor]

My guy

😭😭😭

Ykw nvm

[zinc coral]

just move the desk lol, i more meant if you ever get the chance

[stiff raptor]

Please stay in your own lane, i didn't ask for advice

[zinc coral]

wh-

every single day i upload somthing you say you can always get better

im not saying your bad

[stiff raptor]

I just need to stop replying to you atp

[zinc coral]

what did i do?!

[stiff raptor]

Anyway

Vocal booth update

[zinc coral]

try to ke- nah im joking, looks cool i dont know shit about vocal booths

[grand jasper]

i finally have ndsp mantra

[grand jasper]

ooh nice

[zinc coral]

is it worth?

[grand jasper]

Haven't tried it much, but so far so good

I still need to study vocal techniques & recording

[grand jasper]

are there any attack attack 2010 self-titled stems available?

[stiff raptor]

There's some on ultimatemetal forum for a few songs i think

I did one here a while ago

Idr what the song is called

[grand jasper]

The Wretched iirc

[ruby jay]

where do you get your scene synths?

I use adam szabo's viper

although sylenth1 has some fire presets as well

[grand jasper]

i use refx nexus 2 & microKORG

dance leads folder in nexus 2 to be exact

[grand jasper]

basically the same synths caleb shomo used in someday came suddenly and 2010 self titled

[grand jasper]

i only saw attack attack stick stickly and the link was broken

nvm found smokahontas

[grand jasper]

jeez these multitracks are so bad

[grand jasper]

lol my reaper crashed

[azure gull]

Might be the best riff ive written in all 3-4 years ive played

[devout blaze]

Hi

I need help

[zinc coral]

hi

[stiff raptor]

anyway

free amps

[trim harbor]

So what is the best one

[stiff raptor]

99% of the tone is about the cab you use

[stiff raptor]

lepou amps bundle

easily

[trim harbor]

Never heard of it

[stiff raptor]

LeGion sounds incredible, and works for everything

LeXtac is also great

LeCto

ill show a preview one sec

also, Neural Amp Modeler

if you download profiles of great amps, you will get a great sound

[trim harbor]

Thing is my setup is also very cheap, Boss katana and this bummy guitar

[stiff raptor]

don't use your actual amp if youre gonna use an amp sim

[trim harbor]

The amp has 0 tone included

[stiff raptor]

that isnt gonna work

you need an audio interface to get a clean di

[trim harbor]

Like it doesn't actually record the cab's output, it just grabs the guitar signal

No idea how it works but it does

[stiff raptor]

NAM tone

ENTIRELY free plugins

[stiff raptor]

oh ok that should work then

[trim harbor]

My tone is basically
Archetype Gojira (JD 7 preset with gate turned up)
KHS Hass effect (for depth)
EQ
Fresh Air (for clarity)
OTT (cut through the mix, add more high end)

[stiff raptor]

oh my

yeah no

remove all of that

oh my word

[trim harbor]

Sounds good to me LMAO

[stiff raptor]

more examples of the lepou amps being the GOAT

[trim harbor]

What was the setup for Thrones

[stiff raptor]

lepou amps

LOL

Wait were you the dude who dmed our insta

asking for the brood of vipers tone

or is that someone else

[trim harbor]

No

[stiff raptor]

ahh

[trim harbor]

I don't have a personal insta ngl

Just the one my band uses

[stiff raptor]

• Gojira: Fine, great amp, i dont use it ever because i prefer how my free amps sound
• Hass effect: when you double track guitars, you are doing the hass effect but for real, adding a hass effect plugin is going to cause ALL SORTS of issues and sound terrible
• EQ: all good here
• Fresh Air: why? just add high end in the EQ stage
• OTT: this is a multiband over-the-top compressor. It smashes things completely. Guitars are already compressed due to how amps work. Adding more insanely over the top multiband compression is gonna make your guitars sound harsh and completely overbearing

you dont have to reply to this one, i just wanted to elaborate on why i wouldnt do what you did to your guitar

[trim harbor]

Forgot to mention that my OTT is at 10% volume

[stiff raptor]

Still, i'd avoid it unless you're trying to do buster-core

or like crazy harsh modern hardcore music

where the guitar needs to sound like not a guitar anymore

[trim harbor]

OTT at 100% sounds awful

[stiff raptor]

OTT is mainly best for EDM music when you need to flatten a digital signal

for guitar it just isn't something i'd ever wanna use

except in rare cases

[trim harbor]

https://youtu.be/f1bmeYXLgJM?si=L2BiMPIRru8LOMoy

[stiff raptor]

The answer is yes

[trim harbor]

I copied a lot from that dude

[stiff raptor]

my guitar chain looks like this, always:

• Noise reduction (only if my computer is being weird and interfering with my signal)
• Gate
• free tube screamer (TSC 1.1)
• free amp (usually LePou LeGion or Neural Amp Modeler)
• Cab sim in NadIR , the best free Cab loader (IR is usually something like a Mesa 2000 4x12 or something similar. I recently have been gravitating towards big cabs micd with a 57 or 421. usually when you download IRs, you can check what mics it was micd with)
• EQ (low cut, high cut, and some light surgical stuff in the middle)

[trim harbor]

This here is basically one layer of my tone without the fresh air

[stiff raptor]

yeah honestly youd be better using a free amp or just archetype gojira with a better preset and some better EQ

[trim harbor]

Yeah I forget what my eq looks like

It's probably not amazing

[stiff raptor]

eq will heavily depend on what the tone is and what it needs

[trim harbor]

Also is Circvit Bass a good free midi bass?

[stiff raptor]

did you listen to the screen recordings?

[stiff raptor]

no clue

i use real bass

[trim harbor]

Fair enough

[trim harbor]

On phone speakers rn

[stiff raptor]

doing some SSD4 drum tests

@grand jasper kick 10 btw

i find the SSD snares to be kinda lifeless so im trying to process it in an unconventional way to give it some more spice

kick sounds amazing tho no wonder everyone used kick10

entirely free plugins + freebies btw (minus SSD4)

props to anyone who knows the midi

[grand jasper]

yay mannequin religion

what's that reaper skin btw

[grand jasper]

it was one of the first electronicore tracks i listened to lel (besides attack attack - stick stickly ofc)

[zinc coral]

wait is ssd5 free

[grand jasper]

do i hear some other snare layered with ssd4's

i feel like you're using drumforge sturgis fire edition

[grand jasper]

idk

i don't really like how it sounds i dunno

[grand jasper]

btw
(i forgor to add buster's back vocals)

[stiff raptor]

Its called 80gray spectrum

Best reaper skin

[stiff raptor]

Nah its just snare 4 i think?

I dont remember what snare

It was a lower tuned one

[grand jasper]

spectrum?

[stiff raptor]

Yurr

[grand jasper]

hm

[stiff raptor]

I have a very short plate verb that's at like 20% width

At like -8db

I wanted a little more body

[grand jasper]

i can only see the 80gray, without "spectrum"

[stiff raptor]

Spectrum is one of the color versions in the zip file

[grand jasper]

oh i see now

ty

[stiff raptor]

There's like 8 diff color options when you download it

[stiff raptor]

sending this here as well

[grand jasper]

oh nice

i like reaper for how easy it is to route in it

[ruby jay]

it creates only 28 stereo outputs for me

ever since the kontakt 8 update

[zinc coral]

this is sick1

i think that snare could use more mid and come up

same with room

thoughts?

[grand jasper]

sounds cool

[stiff raptor]

i adore the snare on this, guitars kinda sound dark and i think they should be more bright and have more bite to em

drums sound the best

vocal mix is also great

[stiff raptor]

im not really sure what's going on here, the levels are super weird, whole mix is real quiet

the drums sound mid-scooped and the snare is really pokey/transient heavy

the mix also sounds really narrow, like your guitars aren't fully panned

[zinc coral]

Yeah lol it’s not my favourite

this is the one i need help with

[zinc coral]

the entire track is very dark

i love it tho

[grand jasper]

how did you make the snare verb out in ssd4

[zinc coral]

guys i just received the multi tracks of i local metal band heres my mix

i wonder who it is?

[grand jasper]

local metal band?

damn

i feel like i am the only one in my town who listens to metalcore

let alone crabcore

[zinc coral]

@ruby jay

diddnt you cover this?

[ruby jay]

kinda

cover with programmed guitars, just the pre breakdown part

[zinc coral]

do you want the stems?

[grand jasper]

anyways
what are your opinions on i see stars - the end of the world party's mix?

[ruby jay]

yes

[zinc coral]

sure!

[ruby jay]

the mix is goated

[grand jasper]

cameron mizell mixed it

but tbh i like 3D's mix more

the snare is just huge there

[ruby jay]

I tried restrains kit

[ruby jay]

who's 3D?

[grand jasper]

album

i see stars - 3D

[ruby jay]

oh mb

that's also a cmiz mix

that snare sounding huge because the guitars aren't taking much space in that frequency range compared to teotwp

[grand jasper]

oh man i remember restrains

[grand jasper]

but my absolute fav would be either new demons or digital renegade

i see stars declined after treehouse

[trim harbor]

Dawg I thought you were serious

[trim harbor]

You gotta finish this, it's sooo good

[stiff raptor]

Not an ssd4 thing, i just made a new channel in reaper and sent the snare close mic to it

Put a mono plate verb at 100% mix on the new channel

[zinc coral]

i am lol

i got them through ntm

[trim harbor]

Is this a cover

It's literally just Holy Roller

[zinc coral]

no its the actual stems

[trim harbor]

Wait are you doing this for fun or are they rereleasing Holy Roller

[zinc coral]

im just doing it for fun

you can have the stems if you want

ive also got doomed by bmth

[stiff raptor]

bro what lol

its part of a nail the mix thing, they release multitracks for people to practice mixing with

[trim harbor]

Oh I've never heard of this

[stiff raptor]

i mean this guy isn't even an adult so i dont think spiritbox would hire him to mix their music

[trim harbor]

Fair enough

[stiff raptor]

LOL

no offense obviously

[trim harbor]

None taken

[stiff raptor]

to him

LOL

[stiff raptor]

NTM releases stems out every month if you're subscribed to their thing

[trim harbor]

Interesting

[zinc coral]

hahaha

[zinc coral]

no if you go through YouTube, click on the band you want, buy a subscription for 1$ a month, get the stems, cancel your subscription you get 1$ stems

[stiff raptor]

Well yeah lol

[zinc coral]

big broon

[zinc coral]

im making it my goal to mix spiritbox or another huge band before im 18 now haha

[stiff raptor]

Good luck, you have a ton of work to do

Also, it's likely labels won't allow that

[zinc coral]

i know

where should i start

[grand jasper]

happy birthday to buster odeholm

[stiff raptor]

Great guy, super innovative

Not a fan of the ripple effect he had on modern metal production as a whole

[zinc coral]

@stiff raptor im restarting and pretty much forgeting everything i know about mixing atp, where do you recomend i start learning

[stiff raptor]

I offer lessons

Im sure the great people of the nik nocturnal server would share their knowledge with you as well

[steel canopy]

3am type shit

[zinc coral]

That guitar tone is wild what is it

[zinc coral]

Well how much are they

[steel canopy]

its just fortin nameless with a little bit of eq cleanup

[zinc coral]

Oh

What does the clean up look like

[steel canopy]

just a cut a 2.8k and a lpf

i sware to god if you ask another question

[zinc coral]

Jeez no need to be rude

[zinc coral]

@stiff raptor

[tropic stream]

working on cpu buddha remix, Its not finished I still plan on using more instruments

[tropic stream]

Finished it

[gloomy inlet]

Care for some emotional thall anyone? 🤔

[white shell]

I feel like the drums maybe to quiet

[grand jasper]

i feel like my mixing skills are shittier than before

[stiff raptor]

is the guitar midi?

i like the mix, the cymbals sound a little loud

[ruby jay]

what midi guitar do you use bro

[grand jasper]

Odin III

[ruby jay]

noice, I used to use odin 3 but I switched to axure gmp, it does sustained chugs pretty gud

[ruby jay]

like in this mix for example

[grand jasper]

Fire

[grand jasper]

tried to mix ssd4 again

[grand jasper]

yeh i need some help with achieving i see stars new demons sound

[stiff raptor]

start by recreating a section of one of the songs

itll make it easier if you can A/B yours and theirs

then you can apply that to your music

[stiff raptor]

@grand jasper @ruby jay wanna hear my full mix recreation of a song from End of the World Party

[ruby jay]

oh yeah

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-oh-yeah-gif-oh-yeah-meme-kool-aid-kool-aid-man-gif-18211119326397565445

[stiff raptor]

If my computer didnt crash on export I'd have sent it by now

[ruby jay]

I had this happen to me so many times, every time I was satisfied with a project I saved it, closed reaper, and reopened the project just to make sure I don’t crash it again, because in my system when reaper is left idle too long in the background it is very prone to freeze up or just crash

[stiff raptor]

For me, my computer will randomly blackscreen, as if it's lost all power

and the disk light on my computer flashes once a second, very quick flashes

keyboard lights go off, monitors lose input, all of it

fans stop running

I thought it was an overheating problem where my cpu would shut off to protect itself from heat

but i dont know if that's true

because it does it when it shouldn't be overheating at all

[ruby jay]

Oh my god, that might be a voltage related technical issue

[stiff raptor]

😭 what

[ruby jay]

Idk im dumb, maybe it could be a memory overload, that usually happens to me when there is stuff like steam and epic games launcher and a million browser tabs opened in the background

[ruby jay]

Idk how that would justify the flashes, that’s just strange

[stiff raptor]

yeah it happened earlier with literally only reaper and discord open

nothing else

[zinc coral]

lol

[stiff raptor]

@ruby jay @grand jasper

99% accuracy

everything here created by me

[ruby jay]

the original was super bright and a bit blown out, this has a perfect balance of low end and guitar clarity, the hi hats and china sounds a little too mid heavy that's just a minor nitpick

also is there tambourine layered at every snare hit in the chorus part?

[stiff raptor]

Yes

Tambo could be upped a little more

The hat and china sound a little weird cause i did some EQ matching on them to get them to sound like the originals

But yeah it makes them a bit dark

I do like my guitar tone a little more, even though its just sims of the actual amps that were used

Diezel herbert through a mesa 2000 cab

[grand jasper]

did you make the snare by yourself or use fop kit

[stiff raptor]

Vengeance kit

Fop, but with velocity

[grand jasper]

Cool

Gotta find out where I can get it

[sharp elk]

this is some good shit

[stiff raptor]

Ayy ty

[grand jasper]

man how does sturgis' waveforms look so smooth

[stiff raptor]

Layers of compression and limiting

Limit a tiny bit everywhere you can, at different speeds

Same with compression

I have my drums being compressed in a drum bus, which are going into my instrumental bus (everything except vocals and fx) which goes into my master chain

Master chain has layers of compression as well as a brickwall limiter at the end

Each stage of limiting or compression should just "kiss" the waveform, shaving off pokey transients and such

[grave marlin]

For real, I have 3 compressors working in tandem with parallel compression on my vox alone, each just kissing the sound lightly. You end with a tone of your own every time. And that goes into the master chain. Ironically JST Gain Reduction Deluxe is one of em.

[stiff raptor]

yes that

jst GR sounds so good on screams

on cleans though i like to use finality

[grand jasper]

i completely forgot how to mix stuff

[stiff raptor]

this sounds great

guitars are a little dark tho

[grand jasper]

at least i learnt how to actually mix ssd4

[grand jasper]

like here i just made the ssd4 louder and added saturation & transient shaper

[grand jasper]

i finally used real guitar btw

[stiff raptor]

Lets gooooo

Real guitar >>>>> midi any day

[grand jasper]

@stiff raptor

[stiff raptor]

this sounds really good

i really like the guitar tone

i think the rhythm guitars could come up like a db or two

my ears just wanna hear a lil more

the synth is a little loud too

[ruby jay]

do you have to painfully assign outputs to each drum everytime you open ssd4?

I'd do it once and save it as a project template

I don't save mix templates anymore, I just save project templates for routing stuff. Mix templates don't work for every song, and I don't get to repeat my previous mixing mistakes again

[grand jasper]

yeh, when i open ssd4 reaper gives me a dialog window to create 24 tracks and i route drums to them

i also make sends for parallel compression bus and snare reverb & bass guitar sidechain

made the guitar & bass a bit louder

i like how the snare sounds here very much

[stiff raptor]

Bro make a track template

I do that every time i setup drums

I hope ur not routing it manually every time😭😭

[grand jasper]

Uhhhhh

[grand jasper]

pod farm is my fav vst

[stiff raptor]

its really good

i was saying in a different server the other day, everyone chases after the newest greatest guitar plugin like it's gonna fix their tone

neural dsp, thall amp, archetype plugins

but really you just need to know what you're doing

i get insane tones out of podfarm that came out 12+ years ago

and even free plugins like lepou legion get insane tones so easily

especially with all the new NAM models

paid virtual amps are dying

[grand jasper]

thall amp is mid tbh

[stiff raptor]

it really is

[grand jasper]

ndsp misha mansoor takes a lot of my pc's resources

like it fuckin lags

[copper portal]

I want to be mick Gordon and also Slipknot did I do good job

[copper portal]

Zamn, was thinking about getting it

[stiff raptor]

not worth it

[stiff raptor]

if you have a real guitar, use that

not sure why so many people here use midi guitar

drums also sound kinda weird

[copper portal]

That was a real guitar…

[stiff raptor]

it is just super highly edited?

[copper portal]

Drums are a vst so I guess

[copper portal]

No

[stiff raptor]

Dang tight playing ig 😭

[copper portal]

It’s gojira

[stiff raptor]

i dont mean the amp

[copper portal]

I spent forever getting 2 bars lol

[stiff raptor]

What