Music Production

[visual pine]

is it free?

[modest atlas]

yeah

[forest oar]

Anybody willing to help out with an audio clipping issue

[ruby jay]

stole the buster odeholm chain

[wise raven]

tbh my only issue is it's clipping lol

[surreal rune]

damn that's really good

[green wharf]

ty

[ruby jay]

I thought clipping added a little more aggression that the song needed, but instead it just put way too much distortion on it

hopefully it sounds better now

[frosty juniper]

not bad

new mix

need critics and what to improve

ill add another lead guitar layer in the prechorus later

[frosty juniper]

o yea is the keychange transition fine? i just took a C# powerchord and pitched it up to D#(0:27)

idk if its like too random or is there a better way to do it

[ruby jay]

Keychange transitions are tricky to pull off unless you know what you’re doing, studying some basic music theory will help to know what works and what doesn’t, and if you are just starting out like I would suggest writing simpler songs after taking reference and observing the song structure and similarities of songs in the genre that you want to make

[naive wedge]

woah

[hasty ginkgo]

Shreddage 3 hydra and Djinnbass 2

[green wharf]

im tryna find =out hwo to continue this

[acoustic current]

i have a pretty noob question here, i'm using reaper and how can i open that one screen with a keyboard and a timeline to place notes? i'm trying to create a virtual bass line, i really don't know how to explain this

[hasty ginkgo]

insert - new midi item, double click on it

[swift edge]

Hi guys! First time ever recording after playing guitar for about 6 months. I managed to add some drums and some bass aswell but I think the mix is quite off. What should I do different, any tips or tricks to make it sound more "refined". Thanks!

[frosty juniper]

drums are a bit loud to me

really proud of this mix but i still feel like something's off

[swift edge]

Sounds really good

[surreal rune]

nah it actually works out really well

[acoustic current]

guys, is there a way to take a bass tab, download it and then convert it into midi? or something like this, i trying to make a virtual bass line but it's been SO FUCKING HARD since i'm playing fast and it always don't sound like it should djasdaspdokaspdkaspd 😭

[hasty ginkgo]

yeap that's is possible but won't work properly anyways

[acoustic current]

damn no way i will have to buy a bass 😭

[hasty ginkgo]

nah, just extra work

You still need to program bass correctly

[acoustic current]

thats something that i dont know how

[hasty ginkgo]

tabs will be downloaded as notes, you just need to set articulations and force string manually

what bass vst do you use?

[acoustic current]

i'm using groove bass something like that

[acoustic current]

is there any channel or videos that you recommend?

[hasty ginkgo]

ah, submission audio

[acoustic current]

because thats literally what i were doing, just setting notes

[hasty ginkgo]

I came up to this by myself, sorry

[acoustic current]

well anyways i will try

[hasty ginkgo]

I can explain via discord demo

so it would be faster

[acoustic current]

in some days i will post the demo here (probrably asking for help again lol)

[swift edge]

Second recording. Tried to not do so much compression but I think I still failed :d

[frosty juniper]

this is actually fire

[swift edge]

I'm quite proud of this one compared to my first one haha

[frosty juniper]

cooler guitar sound

[naive wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/headbanging-headbang-ginger-gingermofo-gif-14899356

What guitar plugin you using?

[swift edge]

STL Tonehub

[swift edge]

and I used one of the taylor young presets in it but rn I cant remember what it was called

[frosty juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501095910667714590/1255202173856387132/2024-06-25_18-44-09.mp4?ex=667c459e&is=667af41e&hm=e72cef886b5841f83d0e6d1fb6a8ff92afdf3603578bb24c25d21e35eb96d2f3&

[frosty juniper]

random shot in the dark but does anybody recognize this drum kit library 😅 (probably superior drummer 3, maybe not)

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/ECYF7yeBVBI?si=xiZI9Noa-FoAJikG

[ruby jay]

you beat me to it, I was just about to post this

[ruby jay]

what are your first impressions of that library?

[glacial portal]

Idk yet. I haven't given it a listen yet as I just woke up. Give me like 5 minutes and you'll have your answer.

[glacial portal]

First impressions, this doesn't offer anything special that OKW Metal couldn't do.

Like honestly it feels like a OKW Metal 2.0

Not that that's a bad thing because I think it sounds better than Metal but honestly, if you have the other OKWs, you can honestly skip this one.

[ruby jay]

exactly, its like OKW Metal 2.0 with slightly extra saturated aggressive rock rooms in the dirt mics

[glacial portal]

You can honestly get similar results by making a Frankenkit of Pop Punk, Metal, Aggressive Rock, and maybe Architects.

IF that is you own all the previous metal focused GGD libraries.

[ruby jay]

metal for the kick, pop punk for the snare and agressive rock for the rooms

there are some unique cymbals that are not in any of the ggd libraries in OKW brutal but nothing that I would pay for imo

[glacial portal]

Ppl have said it for a long time but I think GGD is at a point where they need their own launcher.

Or at least now I think they've reached that point.

[ruby jay]

that would be great, but kontakt is not too much of an issue either for me, since I am used to using it so much

but all the GGD drum sample libraries in a single plugin in the form of expansion packs like ezdrummer would be awesome

[glacial portal]

Indeed.

Or like ML Drums.

Here's what I feel like is happening.

Since GGD is a young company compared to say Steven Slate or Toontrack, coming up around 2017 or 2018, I feel they made the same mistake early Toontrack made.

Where they made a "general" kit and delved into the specific kit sounds later.

And the despite the later kits sonically being superior, people were still using the older kits. But Toontrack has the advantage that the other kits are recorded at different studios with different engineers behind them. With GGD its just Nolly doing most of the leg work.

Idk @ruby jay what's your opinion on that.

[delicate ibex]

made a quick demo and tried the new STL tone Lance prenc on guitars

[proper galleon]

would you like a short demo

built a like 6 second sample track to compare with my band

OKW: Brutal

same beat, P5 Matt Halpern kit

[modest atlas]

I NEEEEEEEEED

Thoughts on krimh drums free?

I think it offers way more than the free ml drums

[proper galleon]

then go for it

if it's free

i personally used krimh drums until i got GGD products

[modest atlas]

Yeah at the time I can't go for anything that actually costs money but this one is one I would buy that's not too expensive

[tame light]

I think they are great, I don't like that snare though, that's why I am using the ML Drums free snare. Other than that I normally combine the kick with a sample to make it more fitting for more processed sounding drums, I like that more

[proper galleon]

i liked the snare better than the P5 snare

but now i have the brootal kit so i can just use that snare

[glacial portal]

It actually offers a lot less. In terms of tone I do like it more and it sits in mixes extremely well, but the problem is you can't multi-out the free version or have control over the levels. Krimh Drums free is very good, but VERY gimped.

[modest atlas]

Yeah

I do not like the kick on ml drums free. It ruined the sound of my mixes and that's why I looked into krimh

Although it could just be the result of amateur mixing

[glacial portal]

Compared to ML Drums free where you have control over almost everything minus a few things here and there, and upgrading ML Drums is VERY inexpensive compared to Krimh Drums which is almost as much as EZDrummer 2 was back in the day (basically 130 bucks).

Krimh Drums is EXTREMELY powerful, however if your looking for drums on a budget, I highly recommend ML Drums or the One Kit Wonders by GGD.

[modest atlas]

Yeah I might go for one kit wonders

I love the snare

Sounds like knocked loose

[glacial portal]

The new brutal one? Yeah. Honestly because I already have the metal kit, I will be skipping brutal simply because metal does what brutal does. Brutal is sonically better though.

[proper galleon]

i basically bought brutal for the snare

hate the kick & toms they sound way too processed, cymbals sound killer in a mix tho so i use the P5 kick + toms and brutal snare + cymbs

[green wharf]

I made post black

[atomic ruin]

So, I don't know the first thing about music production. I'm a singer/songwriter who can play drums at an ok level (but not good enough for the latest song I wrote), but I don't play guitar or piano.All my music buddies around me irl are worship/blues/country type guys and this song is a modern metalcore song. I think this one is killer, but I have no idea how to bring it to life.

[ruby jay]

If you have a decent PC, Learn how to use the reaper DAW, and then just to start learning midi programming get some nice free instruments like Vital synth, electric guitar instruments like ample bass, sforzando metal gtx by unreal instruments, a nice acoustic guitar vst like ample M free, if you want to learn routing instruments individual faders you can learn how to use a sample player called kontakt player, and use some kontakt sample libraries like shreddage precision bass and stratus for electric guitar, and use ML drums free as they sound pretty cool for free instruments

Foe some free effect plugins, Novo EQ is nice one to start with, there are great free compressors, exciters, clippers and limiter built in reaper itself, but if you want nice emulations of real mixing gear, Analog Obsession has some pretty cool plugins of that kind. For a free guitar amp you can use ML Sound Amped roots and free bass amp like Bass grinder by audio assault

That is all you really need to start making metal tracks

[frosty juniper]

i used to be a sforzando metal gtx user lol

[atomic ruin]

Sounds like I've got a lot of stuff to start learning. Appreciate the head start.

[frosty juniper]

instead of sforzando id recommend heavier7strings or odin iii to start with

i started with sforzando and i wish i started with something else tbf

[green wharf]

I love thia drum set

[delicate ibex]

little idea inspired a bit by the melodic sides of volumes

[tropic marsh]

please let me know your thoughts on the mix, especially vocals

[acoustic current]

IMO the vocals feels very mixed with the instruments, i would turn the guitars down just a little (remembering that im noob in mixing and everything) but its pretty good 👍

[green wharf]

the vocals fee la bit hollow, probably an EQing issue

[tropic marsh]

noted, thank you

[tropic marsh]

i see, ill try to fix it somehow thanks!

[opal flax]

im pretty much finished with this

any tips on mixing or in general?

[gilded peak]

Anyone got a recommendation for quality Bluetooth headphones for just listening like at the gym or something? I ain’t tryna spend over 350 dollars for casual listening lol

[red copper]

I hear raycon is pretty good

Oh and btw this is for music production like mixing and stuff btw

[gilded peak]

I know, I just figure music nuts like you guys would know lol

I produce stuff too, I just don’t do a lot of listening outside of my studio

[ruby jay]

that snare is panging!!! which snare is it?

[opal flax]

the main snare is from invasion

ggd

but i think i layered some other snares

hold on

yh its this snare

best snare ive ever heard

trash can snares on top🙏

[gilded peak]

It may be cuz I’m using my phone speakers rn, but the kick sounds like it’s lacking some bass, but that may be what you were shooting for anyway

[opal flax]

ill see what i can do with it

but what about the guitars?

[green wharf]

fucked around and made something interesting

lyrics available upon request

[delicate ibex]

trying experimentall thall cyberpunk structure wtfff am i doing

[tropic marsh]

thats sick, the snare could have more presence apart from the ring

[tropic marsh]

this is just solid af

[tropic marsh]

guitars loud, drums could pierce through more. banger shit tho

[delicate ibex]

Thank you for the crits!

[green wharf]

Ty lol

[gilded peak]

Slightly bright. Prolly something you can cut with the eq tho.

[ruby jay]

tried the GGD cali cab sim

[frosty juniper]

new snare idk

idk why i had so much compression on it before it just ruined it

[analog dirge]

I need your help for my interface, it doesn't work 😭

[green wharf]

Exported in mp4 bc i want3d to shwo it to my mobile rriends but heres an instrmental

[acoustic current]

thats really good

[green wharf]

Ty lol

[frosty juniper]

lossless thing

[green wharf]

im now writing an album aparently

i think i mioght rename this and put it in the middle instead of being the first song

i feel like it works better as an intermission rather than a prologue

[tropic marsh]

nice atmosphere

i like the glitching

i need an opinion on volume levels, are the vocals too loud? are the drums loud enough?

[green wharf]

volume levels are fine but the EQing feels a little bit off

the high end specifically is a bit high while the mids feel low

[tropic marsh]

hmm thank you, ill try to fix it

lol you were right, it instantly sounds better after doing minimal eq adjustments

[green wharf]

Nice lol

[ruby jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPXZwnRv1U

this guitar tuning thing will help a lot

also the audio example he used is similar to the stuff you are doing

this vst guitar demo is taking shape

[green wharf]

Whyd you send me this?

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/Z6oVy0NGoI8?si=qWMKsig3KftTeI0h

When Josh Middleton does a drum library.

https://youtu.be/tAvVfbBKjEk?si=8jkEyEhkSXYotPE2

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/pBoZ05S_rbg?si=JmOrZ2TnHLOIiuFY

[acoustic current]

i'm trying to do a fade in but instead of the volume starting at 0 and going up what is happening is the amp sim/gain start on 0 and goes up how do i change this?

[acoustic current]

😭

[final fulcrum]

however you do automation in your daw, try to adjust the amp sim gain there, sorry, I'm a cubase user, not sure what daw this is.

[acoustic current]

It is reaper

But ty

[frosty juniper]

boring cover cuz i was bored

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/avhZi-obE_I?si=r7Su1t3GaEi5q_6M

So uhhhh

Mixwave did this.

So if your going for Lorna Shore type shit....uhhh....here you go!

[frosty juniper]

epic breakdown

[frosty juniper]

fuck its supposed to be F dorian scale

its essentially the same except the root note is swapped from C to F

[frosty juniper]

idk how to mix low ass tuning it sounds off help 😭

[green wharf]

i dont know what i made

[green wharf]

can someone guide me to get a similar tone to this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aciN1EsIqcs

specific example at 0:57

[pure dawn]

i've been producing a lot of uptempo lately for some reason. i don't even like the genre that much, i just keep making it

[frosty juniper]

🗣️ U HAVE A HIDDEN TALENT

🗣️ KEEP IT HIDDEN

wait which fl studio version is this again 😭

[umbral forge]

What do you do when you're uninspired

[red copper]

Look for something to spark inspiration I always listen to a new genre and it helps spark my creativity in making music

[ruby jay]

now all you need is some punchy sidechained percussion

[simple snow]

Hey guys, I made the "Groove: djent app" web application for generating riffs & whole tracks and finally excited to share it with you: https://djent.app/

Demo album fully generated by this app:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/0iNlsAAfX16dKDHDWuHdzm
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJNIsyKYtI4
Bandcamp: https://falsegod.bandcamp.com/album/djenerated-zero-thallerance

[frosty juniper]

i fixed rthis finally

[frosty juniper]

guys

is this fast improvement or slow

i found a clip of my mix sound 1 year ago, i believe november

and now

or did my mix fall off 😭

[red copper]

Nah it sounds better

In my opinion

[obsidian turtle]

so i just copy/pasted a few things from one logic project to another
i turn on the metronome on the second project, because it's in weird time signatures and i want to make sure i'm getting it all right
the metronome accidentally assigns itself to the MIDI bass track... and it's in key and sounds badass

[slow thorn]

is there anyone here who can help me copy synths from songs

[pure dawn]

i tried combining phonk with uptempo and it went well, i think? maybe it sucks idk, i like it though

[green wharf]

tried to make old varials style

beatdown hardcore or sometihng

[frosty juniper]

this is badass, do u have a vocalist

[frosty juniper]

idk if its just my headset or sometimes it sounds like audio clipping

1:53

[green wharf]

duposed to be a transition

[green wharf]

yeah, me

[frosty juniper]

made this track today to check out the refx vanguard and ezmix vsts

[wise raven]

been a while since i mixed and mastered something but i managed to get advices from keyan houshmand after he checked one of my tracks and tried to apply it to some of my mixes

[surreal rune]

fire

[green wharf]

I wanna fixate on a style but i keep switching styles so much

It actually hurts

[wise raven]

Why no try combining them instead of trying to stick to one?

[frosty juniper]

is this heat

i tried eqing my kick better idk if its bad or not my headset is ass

[green wharf]

im gonna end up like those pretentious multigenre bands that everybody gatekeeps and praises (im not that good but i just dont like that outlook)

im kidding but thats a good idea

might try it

[green wharf]

\

[slow thorn]

what kind of effects would you use to make a midi guitar sound like a synth like in this clip

[tacit flower]

Hello! When in songs the left and right guitar switches, then the audio levels stay fairly the same on the guitars, even when theyre double tracked, but when I do it, then the levels are way off, why is that? Heres the example about what I mean and a screenshot.

[frosty juniper]

i mean wouldnt it makes sense cuz its played 2 guitars at once

so its double the volume

use a limiter or something

or just manually adjust the volume

[wise raven]

And also probably because the guitars are not 100% left or right it seems which kinda overlap them in the middle a bit

And increase the volume slightly more

And yea either a limiter or a compressor can help with that volume difference

But i'd use a compressor as its not entirely cuting the signal above the threshold point

[tacit flower]

true, though what i did i just automated the separate left and right volumes to be bit louder at those moments, for now that worked for me

cheers though

[green wharf]

im making techno foir fun

taking ab reak from metal for a bit

[pure dawn]

hello! i hope i ruined this for someone

[frosty juniper]

this needs a volume warning

wtf

alien communication

extraterrestrial

[pure dawn]

that's with the volume suppressed, it was louder before

[frosty juniper]

can someone help me find a sound effect? i have it in a lossy format but i wanna know which sound pack its from so i can check the pricing i wanna get it

ive searched everywhere i cant find it, its not layered or anything its just how it is

like ive reached a dead end i cannot find it for the life of me, checked a bunch of epic stock media packs, browsed on multiple sfx pages, nothing

best i could describe the sound is an airy low impact

with a rising attack before the impact

i wish there was like a website where u could throw a sound effect at and it would find similar sounds

[flat oar]

this sounds like its from cubase but no promises

maybe even cymatics

[frosty juniper]

you wouldnt happen to know which cymatics pack could it be? i never got any cymatics and idk which one to get lol

[frosty juniper]

i just checked like random 2 ones i had lying around and its not there

i thought cubase was a vst

and im certain its not cubase its an actual sfx from one of these sound fx packs, i just dont knw which one

ive got like 20gigs of sound packs, both paid and free ones and i literally went thru all of them

i really need that sound lol

[flat oar]

cubase is a daw with its own sound packs @frosty juniper

[frosty juniper]

ooooooooh

[frosty juniper]

i thought its like a sound generator synthesizer

ill check it out but i have high doubts for cubase, its probably more something like cymatics or epic stock media, or similar pack publishers

im still desperate for this impact im gonna check cubase out anyways

[hallow lodge]

guys what do you think?
https://on.soundcloud.com/9Qyb3

[ruby jay]

how about this?

[ruby jay]

delete this for the sake of our eardrums 🗣️ 👂

[frosty juniper]

pretty close but i dont think that's it

i found a slightly higher quality version but its still not lossless like WAV or FLAC

so its still kinda mid

well if anyone finds this lmk

its still better than the last one but its not the raw file still

missing high frequencies

[frosty juniper]

i gotta check out more of kshmr i think it could be something from these packs

[frosty juniper]

i went thru 1-4 kshmr impact packs and couldnt find it

😭

[pure dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lose-the-game-lose-da-game-farcry6-gif-24059566

[glacial portal]

https://bogrendigital.com/products/trivium-drums

Y'all like Trivium? Have their drummer!

[placid halo]

I made this ages ago it's not that great. Never been a good producer lol just made it when I was bored. Still proud of it cuz at least it's something. it's silent for 12 seconds bare with it 😭

[latent hollow]

Wtf 🤣

[placid halo]

yeah

the intro is too loud

the sample I used has way too much distortion

[latent hollow]

Do do doo do do do do

[placid halo]

I could probably fix it tbh

[placid halo]

fr

[latent hollow]

The melody’s decent

[placid halo]

i dont think I did any EQ 💀

and if u havent heard there's a drop at the end

[latent hollow]

Maybe speed it up,

And pitch it up

Add a fast beat to it

[latent hollow]

The drum beat ruins it

[placid halo]

ur right

[latent hollow]

Send me the audio of just the melody

[latent hollow]

.

[placid halo]

im fixing it a bit

i can be arsed pitching it up cuz theres SFX with the root note im using and its too much word

[latent hollow]

Perfect

[latent hollow]

No need, it’s fixed

[placid halo]

what genre even is this

[latent hollow]

Shit-pop

[placid halo]

you've somehow made it sound like sped up bolywood

[latent hollow]

Sure

I’ll take your word for it

[placid halo]

I finished doing a tiny bit of mixxinh

some of it I fucked up but icba fixing

I changed it again 😭

[latent hollow]

It sounds like video game music

[placid halo]

is that a compliment

I could see it being videogame trailer music

[latent hollow]

It’s a neutral statement

[placid halo]

ok

[latent hollow]

You play as a blue humanoid alien walking through a desert fighting mummy’s

Only after the beat drop

[placid halo]

LOL

[glacial portal]

https://ml-sound-lab.com/pages/ml-drums-dwell?ad_id=120209587896660609&campaign_id=120209587722680609&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMAABHWTujdocXCpP5tmPd7jFtP1qu3C0cEzFLelK5O3eQuwTAZm2GkluCltnJA_aem_JArCN1o-dN0D5bykal531g&utm_campaign=120209587722690609&utm_content=120209587722710609&utm_id=120209587722690609&utm_medium=paid&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=120209587722680609

[proper galleon]

well i'm excited

are y'all excited?

i feel like between this, OKW brutal, and P:V matt halpern sig i won't need any other kits

[bold osprey]

what drums program does nik use? they sound so good

[proper galleon]

he has a custom one made for him by ashtone iirc

[placid halo]

how do I get rid of the noise it makes when I slide on the strings? A compressor? Because I already have a noisegate

i don't know a lot about mixing on DAWs lol

[flat oar]

better eq will remedy the harshness of both your guitars and can be for your cymbals as well

[placid halo]

Define “better eq” what can I change about it to make it better

[flat oar]

maybe a dip somewhere at 4k or maybe 3k for cymbals and maybe a bit less of 1k or 2k on the guitars

in terms of the hz range

[placid halo]

I do all my eq on my pedles and i don't have a multiband eq pedal. Should I set all my pedles eq levels to noon and do all my eq in software? Or just keep it how it is on the pedles and edit the eq on software?

[placid halo]

and I can't exactly change the cymbals it's a backing track

[green wharf]

Couls i gdt some help in getting my kick drum to osubd like this?

https://youtu.be/am2VK4v7eO4?si=cXPV0nDEn-6ixrE6

[green wharf]

tried making something other than metal

[modest atlas]

Awesome

[modest atlas]

I knowwww

This is how I made Domination go heavier.

Apologies for not amazing mixing

[foggy lance]

Okay, but that snare sound I achieved

[tacit flower]

Holy whered you get those drum sounds from

So crisp

[modest atlas]

Thanks! Krimh Drums free https://bogrendigital.com/products/krimh-drums-free?srsltid=AfmBOor28AL6d0Z8mgM2Q6bGo-6dfYtaT_VCrGzR-oLVXzS92iiqqRky

[pure dawn]

i don't know what i'm doing but i'm doing it

[ruby jay]

granular synthesis is awesome

[modest atlas]

That is awesome, and yes omfg that snare...

[frosty juniper]

Agreed

[frosty juniper]

thoughts? just tried on a new mix

[frosty juniper]

nvm this

[modest atlas]

Archetype Gojira X is my new favourite plug-in

That thing is so good oh gosh

[olive stratus]

guys i need help, ive downloaded sum software for my pedal but its not on both of my accounts on my laptop - its only on the account that i dont use 😭 does anyone know how to fix it

i have uninstalled it many times

[green wharf]

i wanna join a deathcore band

wait this isnt even general

[modest atlas]

Hah

[foggy lance]

Weird chug pattern

[green wharf]

binary

[foggy lance]

000000

[frosty juniper]

Looking into purchasing a virtual drum kit plug in and I'm torn between Get Good Drums "One Kit Wonder: Brutal" and Solemn Tones "Mjölnir Drums". Wondered if anyone had any suggestions or a preference of one over the other?

[foggy lance]

Krimh Drums or Trivium Drums by Bogren Digital has a really good engine and good sounds

Addictive Drums is incredible and has a sale rn

[green wharf]

I prefer ggd architects tbh

[foggy lance]

I think it goes down to personal preference in the end, or how you plan on using it

[green wharf]

testing an ezdrummer library on an already existing song

[foggy lance]

Anyone want to help me write some swancore riffs? I keep ending up with more of a tap-djent thing and that's not what I want

[frosty juniper]

welp

[modest atlas]

What is swancore? If you mind explaining I mean

(I prefer people over google)

[foggy lance]

Progressive/mathy post-hardcore that blends and bends the genre, things like Dance Gavin Dance, Animal Jam, Dwellings, Origami Button, Pulses., Cat Company, etc...

[pulsar cairn]

Hi Folks, I just released my new album which has 10 songs, All Turkish but hope you can enjoy with it https://open.spotify.com/intl-tr/artist/1iaNNQAX5HSyfxCxj0ajHq?si=ZDHfeUqNSyqBiAU5c9M5tA

[glacial portal]

Don't forget Eidola and Galleons.

[foggy lance]

I stopped myself before listing a whole paragraph of bands 😛 But yeah, Eidola is peak rn

[glacial portal]

Here's a list:

Bogren Digital - These are very high quality kits however they are pretty pricey for what they offer. Krimh is 133 USD which is a lot. Trivium is cheaper 100 USD, which isn't bad but you can't swap kit pieces which is disappointing. With Krimh, you're limited on swappable kit pieces. That said the plugin gives stuff inside the plugin to mix the drums however you see fit.

Mixwave - They can get pricey in a hurry but right now they're doing a 30% off sale. You got big name kits like Brooks Wackerman (A7X), Mario Duplantier (Gojira) and Austin Archery (Lorna Shore). They range anywhere from 100 bucks to 190, and each kit is different. You're limited on swappable kit pieces, but these are probably the most "mix-ready" kits in the game if that's the route you wanna go. They have limited drum mixing stuff, but you can make them completely raw and mix them yourself. It's also really light on CPU.

Getgood Drums - If you do go the route of the cheaper One Kit Wonders, just be aware you won't be able to pan your kits like you can with their bigger kits which can suck. You can turn off the processing though to mix them yourself. Should you get the bigger kits, you'll get a LOT with them. Including the ability to switch out pieces of the kit, and the turbo can come in handy. Overall if you're looking for the most "bang for your buck", GGD is probably the best.

Toontrack - EzD3's expansion packs you can mix and match alone make it tempting. However the bandmate feature can make a drum pattern for you when you import your guitar riff, and then you can edit the midi for it inside EZD! Not as mix ready but if you like mixing then this is for you. Only issue, base is 230 USD. Expansions are 90.

ML Drums - The first kit is FREE. However you can mix the kit in the plugin and have different tunings! The expansions are only 45 USD too which are cheaper than EZD's and you can mix and match and doesn't use Kontakt! Very affordable and somewhat mix ready.

[modest atlas]

So you can't pan the one kit wonders, but does it come pre-panned?

[glacial portal]

Uhhh....ish....they're to Nolly's specs so, they aren't bad. But when everything else is like this <- -> the drums can sound like this -> <- at least in my experience.

[modest atlas]

Ah I see

Thanks

I love the sound of the brutal kit for the snare and whatnot

But i was wondering if panning would be an issue

[glacial portal]

Don't let it discourage you, I'm sure you can use the pan pots in your DAW to finagle it.

That's what I'm doing atm.

[modest atlas]

Alright thanks

[glacial portal]

Hey guys.

Toontrack is doing a Superior Drummer 3 sale for 25% off.

They NEVER ever do this so it's worth at least looking at.

[green wharf]

i got seventy two cents

[modest atlas]

Relatable

[green wharf]

Lol

[proper galleon]

i have 100 taiwanese dollars

will that cover it?

[modest atlas]

lol 💀

[pliant tree]

lp cuz yes

[glacial portal]

I'm thinking about getting Ultimate Heavy Drums from MDL Tone.

If I do end up going for it, I might sell my GGD libraries for it.

With the except of Aggressive Rock (which is my favorite library).

[vivid star]

I use Mjolnir Drums and find midi files to use cause idk anything about drums

[glacial portal]

I feel that. I know nothing about programming drums. I use EZD to help me a lot.

[cloud cloud]

Whats your go to DAW

im using garadeband rn and its pretty limited

[modest atlas]

I love reaper

It's the only one I know how to use honestly

But if I learned cakewalk that's a great one too

Reaper and cakewalk

[cloud cloud]

thx dude

also W pb

[green wharf]

the otto II II II somethinfg something is really sick

[modest atlas]

Lol thanks

[acoustic current]

im using reaper and to record i let it in loop until i get a good take but in the end it shows all the takes, is there a way to disable this and show only the last one?

[tame light]

iirc you can choose the right take and then press alt+shift+t to make it the only take displayed

idk if there is a way to achieve exactly what you asked for, that's the closet i know you can get

[acoustic current]

yes its this, tysmm :)

[tame light]

np

[proper galleon]

alt+shift+t

o

it was answered

[green wharf]

Atmospheric heavies

[glacial portal]

https://ml-sound-lab.com/pages/reflex-irs?fbclid=IwY2xjawFX85BleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQn6xl4tk6NFB8DbBAlWE-ECp457G1NW192PCkz50AAi-QO5FHtLVvEZng_aem_B_K1wMaSHTj9wMiKd1KOuA

They be on sale my dudes.

[analog rock]

What DAW do yall use for programming drums? I’m thinking of going for FL studio, but is there a better one?

[green wharf]

i mean i use fl since im used to it but a lot of people reccomend stuff like reaper

[rugged magnet]

i use Fl studio and i love it for drums

[modest atlas]

That's what I use

[glacial portal]

TBH I don't really use a DAW to make my drums. I use EZDrummer2 (but I'm planning to upgrade to EZDrummer3, but sometimes I will use my GGD grooves too) simply because the grooves it has helps me a lot. However I want to update to EZD3 because of the bandmate feature and the built in midi editor.

After that I export my midi from EZD2 and use MidiRemap to remap them for GGD so I can use my OKWs.

[glacial portal]

https://rsdrums.com/products/fairview

This is a drum kit by former Intervals and Monuments drummer Anup Sastry and producer Alex Rudinger (Whitechapel). And it's on sale for 70 bucks!

[glacial portal]

Hey boys and girls (and everything in between), GGD is running a fall sale!

[green wharf]

can someone tell me what genre i made

[glacial portal]

It's mixture of a few.

[jovial imp]

Anyone have any guitar plugin or library suggestions to make heavy Metalcore? Looking for something that does low tuning

[modest atlas]

Holy

[green wharf]

what would they be?

[pliant tree]

changed bass pattern idk if its better like this

if the bass is even audible enough

tried ot make it sound more "SLAP"

[pliant tree]

got a new bass vst and libraries

[modest atlas]

thats cool

i see you have sounds of kshmr vol 4

PVTHOS recommended it to me and its pretty awesome

holy moly am i the only one not using fl

[pliant tree]

tbh i dont really use it that often i was just looking for a sound effect i heard somewhere

i already found it tho :P

this one

changed bass again

[modest atlas]

kshmr vol 3 is better imo

has sup drops impact all sorts of goodies

crazy good for metal

[modest atlas]

i mainly use djinn bass II

[pliant tree]

new snare mix idk if i just ruined everything

[shy acorn]

rate how close I got to Tallah's guitar tone

[glacial portal]

Well it's definitely Pissed-core, with some Post Metal thrown in and some deathcore sprinkled in.

[green wharf]

welp heres song two

[flat oar]

dont you find a tone like this gets buzzy on long rung notes? but idk maybe the vsts just dont do that like real bass

[modest atlas]

I haven't noticed that, but I also haven't used djinnbass ii for very long

[proper galleon]

anyone here got tips for vocals production? i have a sample i can share

just need to make em sound more studio/professional quality

[modest atlas]

I got nothing 😊

[proper galleon]

helpful

[modest atlas]

Helpful is not my middle name

[glacial portal]

JST has some tips on their YouTube channel. Also they have a couple of vocal plugins dedicated just for vocals.

[proper galleon]

here's what i've actually got, it's a partial cover of an emmure song. don't mind the vocals sounding like shit, i recorded them slightly tipsy so that i could practice the actual mixing

i'll check out this JST tho

[glacial portal]

It's Joey Sturgis' company.

He has a few. JST focuses on guitar, bass, and vocals, with the YouTube channel dedicated for mixing tips. Drumforge is made specifically for drums. And URM Academy is Joey's online school dedicated to teaching you how to mix metal.

[proper galleon]

hm

this howard benson plugin would be p good

damn expensive tho

[glacial portal]

JST stuff goes on sale all the time.

Just wait for a sale.

[proper galleon]

currently on sale for $139 instead of $140

helpful

it does have a trial tho so imma give that a go

[glacial portal]

Yee go for it.

[glacial portal]

Also lol

[glacial portal]

Those drums are massive

[green wharf]

Ty lol

[glacial portal]

Finally got EzDrummer 3

So ima try to mix something with it.

[past moon]

Anybody know a good interface I can travel with? Not looking for something particularly fancy, just something I can take on a plane

[glacial portal]

Focusrite 2i2.

[past moon]

thanks

[modest atlas]

I got mine used

Good condition

Good price

Super small

10/10

What kind of music do you make?

[past moon]

Mostly modern metalcore/fusion

[modest atlas]

Nicee

[past moon]

not ever good though lol

im not good enough at production to do anything well

[modest atlas]

I'm sure it's great

[modest atlas]

Me either

Believe me

Someone's mixing me ep for me

PVTHOS

He's on this server actually

[past moon]

who knows mabye ill submit my stuff to Glenn Fricker tonight and see how he roasts it lol

[modest atlas]

I'd be too scared to do that lmao

[past moon]

"yOuR dRuMs SoUnD lIkE sHiT! wAy ToO mUcH eQ"

"THIS SONG WILL DESTROY AMERICA"

[modest atlas]

Lmao

I suck at eq

Barely ever eq things

[past moon]

thats why glenn does it for you

he actually knows how to do it

[shy acorn]

I was physically unable to not read that in Glenn's voice

[modest atlas]

Same 😭

[glacial portal]

I usually use subtractive EQ to clean it up. Sometimes I'll use EQ to boost some frequencies but often I'll use an exciter on the specific frequency I want to enhance the sound and then kick in the harmonic circuit to add some sauce.

[modest atlas]

Oh nice

[pliant tree]

i was so offbeat on this i was sleep deprived

might fix it

[proper galleon]

ok gamers question

what/how do you all do to put samples into tracks

is there like a plugin or do y'all just raw input some mp3s

[modest atlas]

i raw input usually

but sometimes use built in sampler plugins

if i want to like play the sound on the keyboard

[modest atlas]

sounds awesome imo

good tone

[green wharf]

i jsut drag and drop from ym sample library

depends on what sample im using

if its like an impact or effect then i just drag and drop

if its a multisample (synth oneshot) then i put it into sa sampler so i can manipulate the notes

[green wharf]

reminds me of happy hardcore and idk why

[proper galleon]

what kinda

sampler

[green wharf]

Fl studio default

[proper galleon]

i have reaper

[green wharf]

Oof

[patent solstice]

This goes so hard

[delicate ibex]

tried some new mixing techniques, how does it sounds?

[umbral forge]

Does anyone have tips on how to make transitions from verse to chorus and chorus to verse better?

[pliant tree]

better mix? maybe

[pliant tree]

define better

if u want a chorus to feel like it hits harder have one instrument solo for like a bar before the chorus or have a pause in general idk

[umbral forge]

It feels like whatever verse I come up with it doesn't fit the chorus

[wise raven]

i went pretty hard on that one ngl also 1st time actually trying to make a trap beat lol

[wise raven]

ok so here is the full thing

it's not mixed yet tho

i don't have a headset anymore since the last one i have died so i need to get another one and i'll do the mix when i'll get it

[pliant tree]

better drum mix ig

[glacial portal]

Dude drums aound massive! How'd you do that?

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/5YYWR-gxpHQ?si=TQj2Ng3H6yy3wMvK

[modest atlas]

I agree with chao

Sounds massive

Also amazing songwriting

[delicate ibex]

it's a blend of GGD libraries, few trigger kick + snare sample and lot of post-processing

[delicate ibex]

Thank you!

wrote a lil riff inspired by new northlane ish

[glacial portal]

It's cool how different our mixing styles are.

[green wharf]

messing around with dro pA

[pliant tree]

mixmximixxxxxxx

do the drums sound good?

[modest atlas]

this reminds me of nin but with heavier drums

[pliant tree]

nin?

sorry im uncultured

[pliant tree]

WTF I somehow had 2 guitar tracks overlapping nooooo

fixed

[pliant tree]

i guess guitars were too quiet

[modest atlas]

Nine inch nails lol

[green wharf]

ive an idea

so you know how djent riffs can be like binary or something

and then we have morse code whythms

what if we combine thte two

[pliant tree]

tried to master this better

[delicate ibex]

northlane inspirations!

[alpine sandal]

Urgitone Drums is going out of buiness and everything is legit $5-$20 bucks.

ITs a feeding frenzy for samples if you need them.

https://ugritone.com/

[minor flame]

holy shit

It´s always sad to see companies like this go out of business but god damn is that a nice sale

I´m just starting to get into music production stuff and am really hesitant to spend money right now without the proper experience to use it but this is just such a steal. Also apparently the sale runs til the end of the year, so no fomo

[alpine sandal]

Hey man I made all the mistakes with music production.

I'm not sure what your budget is, or your long term goals with music production.

As far as I see with Urgitone. The most useful thing you can do is use the kick/snare samples for layering inside the free version Trigger 2.

As I listen to them. I think most of their stuff needs heavy editing.

If you need a list of absolute safe bets for your upcoming black friday... here....

-Fabfilter Bundle, or at least Pro Q3/ProMB (transparent plugins)
-Soothe 2 (everyone uses this)
-Nueral DSP Amp Sims (Pick tone to taste. I reach for Gojira X and Plini X often)
-GGD Cabs (pick to taste)
-UAD or Waves plugin bundles for color enhancement. At the least, get SSL/API eq's/compressors. Bundles. (These are used a ton in your favorite records.)
-Trigger 2 (Drum shaping and layering ... also free)
GGD, Toontrack, or Drumforge Drums.

Below is a list of free goodies.
-Vital (most user friendly, highest quality, free synthesizer) I learned how to use synthesis with this.
-Nova eq (In case you cannot afford fabfilters pro q 3)

Hardware.

Sound is determined by your room. Buying really good openback headphones, and then dampening your room for outside noise is always going to be cheaper and more accurate than having monitors in an improperly treated room.

I favor spending the money on a really good audio interface, and headphones first. Learning on a balanced system is important. Also having a system you can safely take with you when you move frim place to place, is important.

It truely sucks to have studio equipment you cant use because something happens and you're stuck in a apartment, and cant bother your neighbors.

Closed back headphones will make everything feel smaller, but if you are tight on money and need the isolation, those will get the job done.

Reccomended brands for headphones.

Seinheisser (650 series and up)
Beyerdynamics (1770 series and up) ((my personal choice is the DT 1990's)

Dampening a room is easy. Sealing from the outside noise is very hard and expensive. The biggest problems are always doors, and windows from street noise. With windows comes ventilation problems.

I used spring loaded curtain rods from amazon and a sound dampening blankets from US cargo control. Again, if you move from place to place, Easy dissasemble and reassemble. Doesnt damage the apartment. And machine washable.

Theres are a bunch of tips. But the general Idea is "What is really safe to do so I don't have to spend moeny all over again?"

Do your research. If you're short on cash... google "Free plugin alternative for (insert plugin name here"

Prioritize.

Good audio interface and headphones first.

Then plugins.

[minor flame]

I found my holy gospel.

Jokes aside, thanks a lot for that breakdown

[alpine sandal]

xD

[minor flame]

Gonna check it out a bit (also completely forgot about black friday coming up)

[alpine sandal]

Yeah man. Get a list and start working overtime. xD

I like premium audio interfaces so I can run more plugins, sounds better, and records better. Especially important if you're a guitarist/bassist. (This means a good computer too)

I find the entry level stuff like the Scarlett interfaces from guitar always breaks within 3 years... and sounds a bit cold. I've had 2 break on me. And for that, I could have had a nicer interface that never broke. lol.

Can't speak for other entry level interfaces cause I never tried them. I could be wrong about them.

Most interfaces you need something called a DI, box to "Clean" the signal. I had a friend who had a Radial Engineering DI box. Sounded amazing. Only important if you are planning to record guitar and bass.

Otherwise you're looking for chipset power to drive your audio.

But

Depends what your goal is.

Try to find out if you just want "A better sound for writing music":

or if you want to "Chase the best sound to the bitter end"

Cause that's the difference between making a decent demo, or making final production. Two very different quests.

Demo's are cheap. Slap a neural dsp amp sim, Parallax for bass tone, drum sampler, closed back headphones (Like Beyer Dynamics DT 770 pro's), and use the built in plugins in a Daw. There you go.

.... but that sweet buttery sound can be so inspiring to sink your hot knife ears into. xD Tears and wallet aside.

I got into production because I didn't want to pay a producer to do it every time I wanted to put something out. I wanted to use the money to buy studio gear, and keep that with me forever.

Non re occurring finances. A few years of learning production is good.

I've spent 20k on useless gear and acoustic treatment.. and drummed on the street when I was 15 to pay for it. Had to throw alot of it away when I moved. I fucked up XDDDDD

If I were to do production all over again.... I'd hire multiple instructors for private lessons. I would pay for advice. Sourcing good information is so important. Jesse Cannon is my favorite guy. Super clear, articulate, and accurate. A great explainer. I'd subscribe to URM academy just to listen to him. Sadly he doesn't have more production videos online. Just a few on mixing/mastering.

Badabing bada boom. Hope this save's you years of grief. xD

[minor flame]

Yeah, URM is the route I´m thinking about going because it just seems like the best combination of decent price and all the resources and people involved that I´d love to learn from.

As of now I´d just like to get a better understanding of tone and writing, which is hard/kinda pointless to do, without the proper plugins (but also without the proper equipment, but as of now I think that´s fine)

[alpine sandal]

Playing around with eq before an amp really helped me understand tone.

Writing is a whole different animal.

[minor flame]

Yeah, absolutely. One thing after the other. Never dabbled too much in writing because...what´s the matter if you lack the skills to realize it.

best idea aint worth shit if you cant do it justice

[alpine sandal]

It takes a long time to fully run the lap of realizing what things can turn out to be, and what the limitations are.

In my experience.

Best monitoring first.

Then best source sounds you can. The better the source, the less production you have to deal with. Getting the most mileage out of your amps/cabs, and your drums.

Then production to push everything in its slot.

Lots of people sit and, guess what is changing.

good monitoring, makes it really fucking obviouse.

actually

Go to a HI-FI audio store (People that make 100k sound setups) and just sit in a room and demo stuff. Pretend to shop for headphones or speakers.

That was the moment that did it for me.

Pretend to be some fuckin rich kid and get a taste of a good room, and good headphones.

You'll see exactly what I am talking about.

[minor flame]

while on the topic, any hints for a good free DI box vst?

[alpine sandal]

I personally havent seen anything free. I just haven't looked. Cheapest I've seen is a plugin called DI FIX, but I still find DI box's to make the most audible difference.

I'm not too familiar with the D.I. box market. But lucky for you. It's hardware. Hardware goes great on the used market. Find someone who is quitting guitar and nab it off them.

As dark as this next piece of advice sounds. When musicians go through financial trouble and begin to sell gear to change directions... thats where you get a really good deal.

I think the ones to look for are Radial engineering, coutryman, and baby lamb audio?

Again. Not sure whats out there.

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/ZHEjWUU2rOU?si=uhXvv73eT3GJWp2H

[modest atlas]

Buster is wild

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/tu2KhQ9d2Q8?si=Wo0ruBTejwi2jyEo

[modest atlas]

Oh sick video thanks

[green wharf]

i bought my first durm plugin

ggd architects

its hard to admit but i torrented it before

but i really loved it and wanted to buy it legitimately

[modest atlas]

Based

[green wharf]

i now have 41 dollars to spend

[modest atlas]

I would get architects but no money

[green wharf]

youll get some money eventually

dont worry

[modest atlas]

Yea I'm getting a job very soon

[green wharf]

architects test drive

reminds me of coutnerparts

[ruby jay]

https://on.soundcloud.com/6mQYpdEkz8QixDZX9

banger?

[ruby jay]

maybe maybe

[green wharf]

Trying multi oit

Out

[past moon]

sounds good

[glacial portal]

KRIMH DRUMS IS ON SALE FOR 50% OFF

ML Sound Lab stuff is now 50% off!

GGD is running a Black Friday sale to December 1st!

[modest atlas]

Damn holy

[minor flame]

OneKitWonders for 36€!? Daaaaamn

Between me going to 5 shows and all the BF sales this is gonne be one hell of an expensive month

[proper galleon]

once again plugging the bogren digi trivium kit

krimh is cool but if you want drums that kick mega major ass go for the trivvies

like this is an emmure song with the trivium drums which should tell you how versatile they get

[gilded brook]

I cant figure out how to get my track sounding wide. So many other mixes just feel like they take more space. Any advice?

[modest atlas]

Cool song. Is guitar double tracked? You could also consider panning different things, other than guitar like orchestral elements. I'm definitely not a mixing master but that's all I can say for you.

Really awesome song though

[pliant tree]

can you send the bass stem only, wanna hear how it sounds solo

[gilded brook]

ya double tracked guitar, same settings both panned hard left and right

[pliant tree]

not sure what style youre going for but to me this sounds waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooo distorted to me

i think the treble in the bass is fucking with guitar mix

my bass sounds pretty raw actually but its more preference ig

this is how my bass sounds isolated

ive seen people using heavier distortion on bass but i cant pull it off and its not what im going for rn anyways

i dont usually put any distortion or effects on my bass except like a limiter lol

[gilded brook]

ya I'm running it through parallax X but i think you might be on to something with so much conflicting in the mids

[pliant tree]

try no effects at all

or no distortion

im guessing its vst bass right

[gilded brook]

ya, im going to record it all later but this is faster for writing

[pliant tree]

o nice

[pliant tree]

are u sure this isnt an octave too low? does the bass always play this low or is it just this part lol

but yea this is sounding better

i mean if you can play it on a real bass then its fine ig

i just odnt think my vst bass can even go that low 😭

[gilded brook]

Djinnbass 2, it goes stupid low. tbh my bass tuned that low sounds so much worse. Here is a new test with a widener plugin on the guitars and a dif bass amp plugin and settings i think its a little closer

[pliant tree]

this is much better damn

[frozen gate]

You guys ever tried putting your whole melody onto a single note (in a piano roll or something) and messed around the timing to really draw out some smooth syncopation and flow? I watched a video on it and was suprised how awesome it worked

[pliant tree]

would anyone know what is CG and NV when it comes to irs?

[green wharf]

Tearout dubstep is so fucking easy

[minor flame]

FYI: URM has started their Black Friday sale

[pliant tree]

idk whats wrong with my guitar tone but it sounds weird asf idk what to do

[wise raven]

i feel like something's missing in the mix but i don't know what

[ruby jay]

does your guitar have reverb on it?

it has some cloudy mid frequencies that can be tamed a little bit

[ruby jay]

maybe the snare is a little bit quiet

[wise raven]

i made slight changes since

[pliant tree]

yea i also sent the guitar soloed if it helps

[ruby jay]

maybe you low passed the guitar bus to the point that it sounds a little bit muffled

[ruby jay]

try brightening the tone up maybe

[pliant tree]

better?

[ruby jay]

better than before

[past moon]

This isnt done yet, the intro is still badly played cause i just needed a filler before actually learning it, and ive only recorded halfway through the song. no bass or vocals either. Mainly wondering how my tone is, and wether I need to mess with the drums a bit more. Found them on yt and downloaded it so the most i can do is EQ, but they sound pretty accurate anyway so should be good.

what i have recorded isnt polished much either

[past moon]

Is your guitar single coil? Sounds similar to my strat with a DS-1 and Marshall sim. Idk what your using but if it's a single coil, I usually go bass and treble up around eight or nine, with mine it makes it sound more full. Mids about 4. Double track, pan, and bass. Song sounds cool though, really like the solos that you did on it

[pliant tree]

humbucker

[past moon]

idk then. what kind of tone are you going for exactly?

[pliant tree]

still dunno kinda trying out different amp settings and stuff

[past moon]

Are you using sims or real amps?

[pliant tree]

no mic to record with so sim

[past moon]

What software? I'm familiar with the ones on logic but not so much with other ones

[pliant tree]

guitar rig

i dont really touch the settings in the amp when doing eq i do it with pro q

[past moon]

Sounds kinda like an orange or vox sim to me, out of curiosity are you using physical pedals or virtual?

Im my experiance virtual pedals sound pretty goofy

[pliant tree]

no pedals 💀

just like

noise gate - amp - cab sim - eq

if i want any effects on guitar i will do it with other software inside FL studio

[past moon]

amp gain? that could be why it sounds wierd. Try adding a pedal right after noise gate or getting a physical pedal. Turn amp gain all the way down and let the pedal do its thing. I'm not familiar with FL studio so can't help you much sadly.

[pliant tree]

tbh i dont even know what pedals are for 😭

i have this before my amp thats it idk if thats what u mean

[past moon]

Pedals basically change the sound going into your amp. For example a distortion pedal distorts the signal, a delay pedal makes it all echoey, reverb makes it very sustainy, ect

I'm guessing your not that familiar with recording then?

[pliant tree]

i mean i got my first guitar like 3 months ago

[pliant tree]

prolly something like this but im tryna get my own unique sound instead of copying 1 to 1

i dont have stems for it so

[past moon]

I would really just do a lot of research and experimentation then. Watch some Spectre Sound Studios videos, most likely he will have an answer to really any question you have. (Although Glenn is a bit of an asshole so be aware of that.) Experiment with different amps and stuff, screenshot settings you like and stuff like that. Your playing is really good for someone who just started a few months ago though, keep it up. Hope this helps!

[pliant tree]

o yea i watched some spectre videos

[green wharf]

recorded vocals the next day

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/dRhbEmpRZEE?si=qeoomsYDZvVy1TJE

[pastel sand]

I think this belongs in here. Im looking to get into producing music and im not sure what DAW to go with. I have cakewalk atm and its good but I want to move to something els and something paided. Any suggestions would be help full n thanks

[ruby jay]

reaper is the best DAW to check out

[glacial portal]

If your looking for a DAW for cheap Reaper is the way to go. It has everything you could need and is very community driven. Any updates made by the devs have been requested by their community.

[minor flame]

Not even to mention that you dont even really have to pay for it, but use the free version.

You want a new DAW? Get Reaper.

[pastel sand]

Sweet thanks guys I’ll look into it

[green wharf]

i feel so violent today

[gilded peak]

Anyone do audio mixing as a full time job in here?

[pliant tree]

lead guitar sounds a bit weird

[pliant tree]

fruity loops studio :P

and if you know where to look you dont have to pay for it

[minor flame]

got GGD OWK Brutal. It does what it says, my god

[modest atlas]

Damn I want it so bad

[green lava]

This is probably old news to you guys...

https://splitter.fm/badomens

[lost venture]

Lil synthy boi

[glacial portal]

https://www.submissionaudio.com/products/architectsbass

Pair this with GGD OKW Architects and maybe STL Josh Middleton and you'll be set for them Architects tonez.

[modest atlas]

Damn didn't know that existed

[glacial portal]

This just came out. As GGD Architects yeah its been out for a while. People kept requesting it when they found out at that time Nolly was working with them during Holy Hell and For Those Who Wish to Exist.

[modest atlas]

Well thats cool

Might get it sometime

[green wharf]

whistle scream

[umbral forge]

Does anyone have a good tutorial on how to fix timing issues of guitar in Reaper?

[minor flame]

depends on what you mean

if it´s input delay I´d bet my ass it´s about the audio driver you´re using

[wise raven]

could be the buffer size too if it's delay

[minor flame]

Switch the Audio driver to ASIO, reduce buffer to at least 192 (or less, but 192 works fine for me) and you should be golden

[dapper rune]

What would you think the best mic for recording an amo would be? Thanks

Amo? Amp😂

[glacial portal]

My production teacher wants me to get into psychoacoustics now lol.

Apparently he has nothing left to teach me in terms of static mixing and wants me to mix more dynamically.

Mind you this guy has been doing this since the 70s.

Man's an OG.

[stoic sinew]

Hey would anyone be able to check out my band on Spotify it's called impia and our single is called sacrifice under the moon, can anyone give me any tips on the mix?

[green wharf]

gridncore or soemthing

transitioning into noise

[pliant tree]

thoughts?

[pliant tree]

clipping

[green wharf]

Yes

[vital crest]

This goes harder than a microwaved sandwitch

What the hell im listening to?

https://tenor.com/view/noise-tv-tv-noise-gif-13822466

[tame zenith]

Hey guys, I need some help.
I'm the vocalist of a DIY band, also their producer, and I struggle with editing guitars, vocals, and bass.
Do you have any tips for me or know of a plugin that could help me edit faster?
Right now, I'm editing note by note, and it's driving me crazy. ;-;

[green wharf]

Wat

[green wharf]

Close enough

[mental rain]

Messing around with my tone a bit

[calm verge]

I think there is no other way when u do midi you can only edit note by note

i mean there are some plugins that can help with that

but not much

they are def not for metal i think

[vital crest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1049069952088420414/1212061981574701096/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[calm verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072299644488519750/1306681615199637504/never_say_this.gif

[pliant tree]

fixed loud ass bass i didnt even notice it until i listened to it from different headphones

[green wharf]

oh ur trolling

[glacial portal]

https://www.getgooddrums.com/products/one-kit-wonder-nu-metal

[modest atlas]

YOOO IS THIS NEW

Apologies if it isn't I've neverrrr seen it

[wise raven]

yea it's new

[modest atlas]

That's really cool

[wise raven]

i might need to check how it sounds but my only complain is it only has 3 toms and i usually use 4 and sometimes 5 since i use a blend of krimh drums and the matt halpern sig

[glacial portal]

It just came out like a day or 2 ago.

[modest atlas]

Awesome

[modest atlas]

Wow 3 is a surprise

[glacial portal]

I've switched from GGD to EZD3 cuz Kontakt is a pain in my ass.

If I were get another GGD drum library it'd probably be either this one or a Modern & Massive 2 (if they ever do one which I doubt).

Cuz I do like the sound of Modern & Massive (I really don't like Invasion, even though everyone and their mother seems to like it).

[tame zenith]

Damn... but thank you! ^^

[green wharf]

Im on a roll

[vital crest]

My reprod version of 1x1 by BMTH

https://tenor.com/view/bmth-oli-sykes-dancing-gif-25798116

[green wharf]

vocals recorded

[vital crest]

Dark trap pop song with trap breakdown?

(Vocals are made using synth V)

[ruby jay]

reaper

[ember sequoia]

good to know

[past moon]

Hey yall, ive been having issues with Neural Amp Modeler. The tones sound great but I have to throw one hell of a noise gate on it for it not to buzz, so much that my playing doesnt even make it through sometimes. Using the noise gate built into the plugin btw

anybody know a solution?

[green wharf]

noise gate is practicxally mandatory unfortunately

[ember sequoia]

open back or closed back headphones

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/mCaxfhZs9UM?si=X1KJIwDycDt8sJ0v

[green wharf]

ODEHOLM DRUMS IS OUT

[modest atlas]

I love it

[pliant tree]

damn i wish i knew pro q 4 is out

its peak

[green wharf]

My vocals are a bit wonky here because im doing the high more often

I am resting tho so im taking a wrek break from recorsing vocals

Im constricting just a teeny bit more

So ima relax

[tacit flower]

does nik use any plugins, compressors, EQ etc on his drums?

[vital crest]

Cyberpunk type shit

[ruby jay]

remaking this legendary track

[wise raven]

tried the new odeholm drums and it's massive af though i made it very quickly so the volumes of the kick and snare especially are a bit loud i'll work on that tomorrow

the drums sounds are the stock processed sounds

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/k68XFgIEa0U?si=ywe9eiRoeFFqMIoW

[pure dawn]

unedited garage recordings are fun to do, can't lie

[restive mountain]

Smt I made after listening to zillakami then Nik

[foggy lance]

What do you all think of these absurdly mixed drums?

[modest atlas]

I love it lmao

On that note

Here's some absurdly mixed drums

[runic shuttle]

Does anyone know how I can get / use Opus by EastWest in ableton? Google and YouTube hasn't been helpful in the SLIGHTEST and its kinda pissing me off

[livid rover]

Made a ripoff of Deathphonk/Mirar's "SAMSON!" lmao

[minor flame]

First off: damn, respect for both trying and executing it pretty well. But is it me, or my headphones, or is the guitar way too muddy and suppressed? Might be me but the guitars feel like they're coming out of a 5$ bluetooth box from 2010

(absolutely no critique, just wondering if that's me or the way it's mixed that doesnt translate)

[livid rover]

Okay so

When I was mixing this, I felt like the drums are way too loud

And then when I heard the product, I was like

"Damn, it sounds too muddy"

It might be the amp I'm using though

So I might fix it with another one

[minor flame]

Yeah, was wondering. It's lacking the clarity, that's the word I was missing, that's kinda muffling everything. Almost sounds like it's an octave below what it's supposed to be and the mix messes it up more. Keep us posted, I'm eager to hear it

[livid rover]

okay i sorta fixed it

i'll share when its done exporting

okay here

[pliant tree]

guitars sound muddy? help 🙏

[runic shuttle]

I GOT OPUS TO WORK LETS GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! (Thanks to my homie on tik tok TheRiffReferee)

[pure pagoda]

for me i use fortin nameless neural dsp plugin max out both gain knobs reduce bass

and i eq

reduce the bass even more

and while mix/mastering i increase highend by a db and low end by almost the same amount

try if that works for u

[solemn girder]

now i rarely use eq, i use tools like soothe2 or smooth operator. on every tracks, including bus. those tools can fix your sound in 5 secs.
now my mixes sounds like a pro. and i proud of it

[modest atlas]

no one really says it much.... your stuff here is insane im loving it

[green wharf]

Thankies

[gloomy inlet]

Odeholm my beloved

[modest atlas]

goodness its amazing im cryingngngng 😭

not literalyl you get what i mean

[pliant tree]

Ill check them out

[pure pagoda]

noted

[green wharf]

i cant tell if this is more back metal or more punk

[dawn wadi]

does anyone here make post-hardcore? i need fellow screamo guitarist friends ;-:

[dawn wadi]

btw ur music is cool

[green wharf]

Thank

[green wharf]

I used to

[green wharf]

waht am i doing with my life

[green wharf]

the final song is complete

[frozen blade]

So I made demos and I usually have some amateur mix and master my music for cheap . So I figured to just find a person to mix and master and learn it. I used reapers free plugins such as limiter compressor and filters. I did use ozone imager which is free

So I mixed one my songs on Spotify and saved the presets

It’s a goofy Christmas song

So here ya go

Let me know what yall think lol

[wise raven]

i'm not the best at mixing very low stuff but i guess what i got here is rather decent drums are the processed preset of odeholm drums and only the volumes are changed

i wish i could send the .wav but it's over 100MB lol

don't hesitate to tag me with your feedback to make sure i see it

[modest atlas]

HELL YEAH that's cool

[wintry star]

Does anyone have any good recs for studio monitor stands? Preferably ones that have clamps on the bottom. I've got the presonus eris 3.5 monitors

[pliant tree]

what about on master track 😭

i got sooth 2

[green wharf]

Thankies

[jovial imp]

Hey, need some suggestions on kontakt guitar libraries and amp plugins. Looking at making modern Metalcore mixed with hardcore, so definitely need something that tunes low while also having highs and pinch Harmonics

[wise raven]

i don't know much about VST guitars but for the amps you can't go wrong with the archetype gojira tbh

[foggy lance]

Go for the free sforzando library METAL-GTX by Unreal Instruments. One of the best guitar libraries I've ever used

[gloomy inlet]

The shreddage 3 series is really good like shreddage 3 Jupiter, Hydra, and Argent

[pliant tree]

i used to rock heavier7strings and odin 3 for a bit before i got a guitar, and guitar rig as amp sim, i still use it for my guitar since i have no good mic to record amp

odin 3 has some spicy pinch harmonic samples

if you know where to look obv you dont have to spend a single penny

:)

[icy stump]

my first full song

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/HlPwygdLFlA?si=poKUKQJmOzLbDBQW

[slow thorn]

trying to learn how to process my shitty yelling in case my voice really gets cooked

this would be good for industrial metal but i wanna know how to make it work with other genres too

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/80_Y3QMiTsY?si=2EKkIpfER-Zlxc3w

[minor flame]

anyone got tips on getting vocal tracks out of a song for a cover version? Tried AI splitters, but they just shit the bed with screams or vocal effects, playing over the original either sounds off (may be my tone, but I cant see that working either way) or is so toned down that the vocals are barely audible, any advice would be appreciated

[pliant tree]

send me the song ill do it for ya

worth trying anyways

[minor flame]

DM :)

[vital crest]

I tried to recreate vibe from those random glitchy parts in couple of songs by linkin park

[umbral forge]

Is there any good set of monitoring speakers someone can recommend?

Prefer to be budget ones

like around €100

[sterile flint]

I’m a 15 year old producer, and I’m looking for good studio monitors for around $90

Any suggestions?

This is the workspace I have

[minor flame]

got no recommendations per se, but maybe check reverb or some other side for second hand gear. Might get yourself a good deal for some decent gear from someone who´s upgrading. This shit aint cheap and if there´s money to be saved, why not at least have a look

[sterile flint]

Are the Mackie cr4-x’s good

[pure pagoda]

someone

tell

what can be improved

[stoic sinew]

can anyone give me feedback on this song for my new album im currently writing for?

[forest fox]

Lyrics will be live in the next day or two 😊 appreciate if you'd give it a listen, thanks!

https://open.spotify.com/album/4lOMa1FbczVqzjFdrzHVws?si=oY8E7BMeR9aEUgPCj_htuw

[green wharf]

I fucking hate the mixing but the songwriting is decent

[green wharf]

bleh

[frozen blade]

I got music on Spotify that are mediocre or below average on both lmao

But it’s all fun and part of improving

[pliant tree]

sounds really raw and unmixed

[stoic sinew]

That's because well it's un mixed and raw..

[stoic sinew]

Do you have any tips on how I could make the guitar sounding better?

[pliant tree]

well thers not anything in particular i hate about the guitar tone but the drums have little to no mixing at all and theyre kind of all over the place hah

i dont really listen to the style ur going for i think so idk how to help that much

[stoic sinew]

Yeah fair enough, but thanks anyway, I'm still new to drum programming so I'm trying to get better I guess

[umbral forge]

For mixing and mastering, what is the general process with steps to cover most of the basics?

Like, other than getting the volume right, EQing

[green wharf]

Glue everything

[umbral forge]

how so @green wharf

[pure dawn]

what in the metalcore complextro cysmix osu rhythm game deftones hornycore mashup is this? yo, this shit slaps though

[green wharf]

dont edit pings because it doesnt ping for some reason like that

but

theres some weird knd of compressor that kinda just wokrks?

it might only be local to fl studio sice it is a patcher preset called freq glue - master

anyways heeres a tidbit

[analog rock]

Obsessed with this actually

Fire as hell

[green wharf]

Oh ty

[glacial portal]

You know what I just realized. GGD always features an artist that best fits the OKW they are releasing (minus Architects cuz I mean...it says it on the tin)

Modern Fusion - Plini
Aggressive Rock - Caleb Shomo
Metal - Matt Heafy
Classic Rock - Jared James Nicols
Pop Punk - Neil Westfall
Dry and Funky - Mark Lettieri
Brutal - Issac Hale
Nu Metal - Mike Stringer

[ruby jay]

trying to make thrown

[tame zenith]

Well I was writing that you'll need to change the synth sound, but in that moment you've changed it already xD Good job, sounds sick, I like ^^

Something with the chugs at 0:38 is different compared to the original. But I can't exactly describe what it is.

[ruby jay]

The chugs in the original use real guitar di, my version is made with vst guitars only