Music Production

[frosty juniper]

Yeah could be

Sounds like it is as it organizes the amount of input

[slow thorn]

but if i set that to -18 dB its way too quiet

they all start at 0 dB

but if i put the fader up past 0 it doesnt sound any worse which im pretty sure means it isnt clipping

[frosty juniper]

Yeah the gain knob itself shouldnt be -18 but the tracks when playing shouldnt exceed somewhere between -10 and -18 ideally

[slow thorn]

ohhh on that little output measuring bar thing

[frosty juniper]

You see that on the bus fader when you play the track and than you dial your gain until

Exactly

[slow thorn]

together or soloed

cuz together they go above -6

but individually theyre not that loud

[frosty juniper]

No the gain on the bus itself

So you play the entire bus track wolo without any plugins to see how much output its generating

[slow thorn]

and then adjust the gain so it doesnt go over -18

then i can do whatever with the faders right

but i started doing levels again ;-;

wait the folders dont have the knob

its just the tracks

[frosty juniper]

Yeah it gives you more headroom to work with the faders and mixing fx

[frosty juniper]

Thats a bit weird

[slow thorn]

i can use the js volume plugin which is apparently a gain plugin

but i need to put it in with the fx

[frosty juniper]

I dont know the plugin. You can also try mixing without gain staging. Many bedroom mixers hardly do it, but the pro's definitely do

[slow thorn]

i dont really get how gain staging is different than mixing levels with the faders

like at long as i keep the overall output below the limiter it wont clip right

[frosty juniper]

With gain, volume fader shouldnt make something clip. Gain causes clipping not volume itself

[slow thorn]

from what ive seen gain staging is more of a recording thing than a mixing thing

like making sure that the recordings dont clip as youre making them

but since these are in my daw already and they didnt clip to start with and apparently volume cant make things clip

i think i can just not worry about it

[frosty juniper]

Nah its definitely used for mixing. For recording you just ensure nothing clips but you definitely want to control the gain hitting bus and master faders

For instance, upping a frequency in your EQ adds gain

Gain correction on a compression adds gain

So you see how this can all become an issue when its not controlled

[slow thorn]

alright my fx dont work

i can load them up and move the sliders, and the output display matches the audio, but the fx dont do anything and the audio sounds exactly the same

[frosty juniper]

Did you put em on the bus or on the track?

Did you route the tracks to the bus?

[slow thorn]

it was straight onto a track

[frosty juniper]

Strange

[slow thorn]

reaper does that automatically if you use folders

[frosty juniper]

Alright

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/od34HD0JkbM

SPIRITBOX SIM

[silent willow]

WHO GOT THE SPIRITBOX SIM

I JUST GOT IT SORRY FOR THE CAPS SO EXCITED

[sand night]

Let us know how it compares to Neural DSP stuff!

[glacial portal]

It's pretty much Mixwave's Archetype Nolly.

Minus the fact it has an SLO.

That being said, I do like the fact you can switch up blocks to go in any order affecting your signal chain. It's pretty cool.

[pine drift]

Does anyone here use Audacity?

[ruby jay]

yes

[ruby jay]

P5 coming hot

[lucid ocean]

Ok so I'm really keen to make music preferably (MELODEATH) so I need a bassist and a drummer I can do the vocals and guitar but I need U to be 100% commited and im 14 so if that puts people off I can understand um just message me on discord and yeah

[proper crane]

do you have anything so far?

[lucid ocean]

So I don't have a wawa pedal but yes I do have something on the guitar I just need to create some lyrics

With screaming and also I'm only 14 just incase that puts U off a bit but I'm fine with it

This is the acoustic version I do have one with drums wich my brother is on but his definitely not permanent

Actually sorry I also need two guitarists rythim right and left coz I'll be on vocals um ye also my vocals aren't that good I just need to warm up a bit

Also the middle part is just me muckin round

Also it does get a lil bit of beat but my brother's drumming isn't that good he's drumming is more like punk rock rock sought of music but ye

And that's not the full version

[red wind]

i want your brother's snare

sounds tasty

[lucid ocean]

Hahaha it's an electric kit

I wish I played the full version for him so he could learn to play along with and make tha full track

[frosty juniper]

Bruh...make a full song out of it.

[cloud crystal]

lmao maybe

[opal flax]

need more reverb

[ruby jay]

ozone magic, can you tell the difference?

other than the one with ozone is louder

[red wind]

heh

[sharp temple]

thall.

[pseudo rover]

yellow

can someone help me with production?

i know absolutley nothing

so like some videos and like tips and tricks to getting good guitar tone and what not

[pine drift]

Via monitor right?

What kind of Amp do you have?

[tidal lance]

i need help making a good deathcore/ slam tone in bias fx 2. Somehting similar to Infant Annihilator maybe idk also my guitar is an IVY ISFF9

[gilded brook]

is this sick? NDSP nameless and GGD invasion Eurobass with NDSP darkglass

[pseudo rover]

It’s sounds so empty

What can I do to make it sound better

[red wind]

opinions on how everything sits in the mix? any weird noises from freqs or anything? i think it sounds pretty decent overall.

[pseudo rover]

pretty solid

[pseudo rover]

sounds good to me, then again my word doesnt mean much

[gilded brook]

your missing all the gigh end on the guitars and cymbals

[royal gulch]

I'm relatively new to producing, which comes mainly as a side hobby thanks to playing guitar. So this mix lacks bass, drums and whatnot, partly because I lack the knowledge in music theory and partly because I'm too broke to buy proper vst's.

But what do you all think of this? Any tips or tricks on how to mix the guitar in this track, or in general?

[red wind]

you can use steven slate drums or modo drum to get a base drum part

[royal gulch]

Thanks! I'll check it out!

[red wind]

ofc

they're both ok

but they can def help

[royal gulch]

I have a good friend who plays the drums (and also is into metal), so if it ever gets to the point of it getting serious, he'll do the job. So I think I'm fine with just a base for drums

[pseudo rover]

Did some work

And named it after a popular snack

In India

/)

[green ridge]

I’m looking to start makin music with my band mates any program suggestions for beginners or js in general?

[pine drift]

Audacity if your starting out

[frosty juniper]

Any DAW is fine. Real 'beginner' ones get real old real quick. Its better to just get something like Ableton, Logic, Cubase, Presonus Studio One and so forth

Im currently using Presonus Studio One and I think its intuitive enough that a 'beginner' could fine its way, but if you really start making music you gonna end up looking for tutorials anyway

Audacity is too limited for anything besides recording compared to those daws

[green ridge]

how much is that?

[green ridge]

how much is that?

[pine drift]

Not sure

[mellow adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1092348328349536257/1150932703290593380/image.png

I was meant to sleep early tonight lmao

[cloud crystal]

dj0nt

[ruby jay]

average bernth fan

shreds during djont

[frosty juniper]

Dang...Periphery, Plini, Sithu Aye and AAL are average Bernth fans.

[cloud crystal]

real

[red wind]

No because periphery > bernth

Also Periphery doesnt shred as much

So

[ruby jay]

seems like the guitars are not only thing you need to work on

as a drummer I think the drum parts are a bit too umm, lets just say robotic and to the grid as most drum parts are in this genre

but try to add parts which are rhythmically and dynamically more diverse instead of constant accentuation of midi notes

if you want to have more interesting drum parts

[rocky aspen]

Okay, just got a new Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 4th gen I tried connecting it to my laptop and it gives me a BSOD and restarts. Any idea what may be causing this? Drivers issue? My laptop is an ASUS TUF F16 Gaming laptop with i5-11400H NVIDIA GeForce 3050 GPU and 8GB of DDR4 RAM

[ruby jay]

that is some rebellious hardware

[sharp temple]

boredom thall riff

[broken token]

guys do you have any metal drum plug-ins you can suggest me to try out?

[arctic latch]

Superior Drummer

Mt power drum kit if you want a free option

[proper crane]

EZDrummer if Superior scares you

[sharp temple]

Finished

Might get a remix tho

[frosty juniper]

Hey guys I am an upcoming musician and producer from Toronto Canada I focus primarily on metal and rock genre. I can share my latest release if you like to check it out and give some feedback is much appreciated 😁

[balmy oar]

Did you manage to fix this?

[rocky aspen]

Yeah, all fixed up now....running Josh's tonality and i'm OBSESSED

[ruby jay]

cat metal

[cloud crystal]

MEOW

[ruby jay]

[cloud crystal]

metal!!!!!!!!!!

[dusk lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGiybTHjx0E&list=PLeOf7KfOM6lXq0U9EVSFTDsdaPTRYNB3x&index=2

[ruby jay]

this part is snuff by slipknot with midi drums
https://youtu.be/mGiybTHjx0E?t=136

[ruby jay]

now that I listen back it is pretty feels are reals

[dusk lagoon]

😈 🤘🏻

[dusk lagoon]

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeOf7KfOM6lXq0U9EVSFTDsdaPTRYNB3x&si=5Xuekkzr9_pld4Uf

[proper rivet]

do any of you guys use and like STLTones or Neural DSP

[cloud crystal]

yes

[opal flax]

yeah

nameless

[frosty juniper]

Petrucci and Plini

[cloud crystal]

first time recording high screams 😳

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/WoeLB22uR1g?si=F89n8nSGnVzf8eNS

@red wind

[glacial portal]

I use Neural DSP.

[ruby jay]

is this real 💀

[glacial portal]

Yes

[red wind]

I’ve been waiting

Yippee

They’ve been teasing it on their IG for a few days now

[glacial portal]

You now have all the tools you need.

Archetype Nolly
GGD Drum P3, PIV, or PV
GGD Zilla
GGD Nolly Bass

You can now become Periphery.

[red wind]

At the cost of a lot of money

I got PV though

[ruby jay]

only thing left is Mr. soleto

and which one is P3?

never heard of that one

[glacial portal]

That was the very first drum library they ever did. It was after P3 dropped and GGD first went public.

[glacial portal]

They need to make a voice bank of Spencer's voice.

[cloud crystal]

spencer ai voice 😳

[frosty juniper]

So you can also add a weakest link to your instrumental djent project.

[cloud crystal]

went back and mixed this track again

[fallow geyser]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cybahw9o-SK/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

rip_productions1

A cover of Northlane's "Bloodline", performed by myself and @forevr_old

Instrumental: @rip_productions1
Mix & Master: @rip_productions1
Vocals: @forevr_old
Art: @forevr_old

Check out more of Forevr:
YouTube: @ForEvrOld
Instagram: @forevr_old

Gear Used -
Guitar: Strandberg Richie Henshall 8 String
Amps: Archetype Gojira & Omega Granophyr...

Instagram

[opal flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRWq14MiL8

[sharp temple]

Thall.

[tame light]

i need help guys, if you midi your bass, do you use some pitch tools for bends and stuff? or do you leave the midi notes as they are?

if you synch your bass with the guitars ofc

[frosty juniper]

You dont really bend on bass anyway, so that wouldnt be necessary.

[tame light]

so you just leave the midi as it is, even if it's a bit dissonant then

[frosty juniper]

No, because a bend on a guitar is a certain note, so for instance if you bend on the G on the B string towards an A you play that A note.

[tame light]

if you have a long bend, do you split the bass midi not up into several notes, like if you bend up one half step do you put another midi note right there up one half step or leave it

[frosty juniper]

You can also use slides on the bass when its a 'slow' long bend

[frosty juniper]

I sometimes do that yeah!

[tame light]

ah ok, makes sense

thank you man

[frosty juniper]

No worries.

[livid rover]

Stupid question but

How do you make a song like Darko US

I’ve been trying to make a song that sounds like totally-not-a-carbon-copy of Darko US

[rocky aspen]

Smoke a ton of pot, write with an 8 string flipped from your normal style and you might come close

Seriously though, the reason why Darko works is because BabyJ and Tom push the boundaries and constraints of what normal music is

[digital forge]

https://soundcloud.com/smiling4dal0rd/bleed-out?si=7a601b71e3514c2fa2fcad21a3134a3d&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
Made this. Still experimenting guitars with trap melodies

[pliant frigate]

Plug-ins, plug-ins and more plug-ins. Darko is very production focused and encompasses a lot from other genres so it would be useful to look into what their influences are.

Aside from that, some DAW's are better than others for this kind of work. Ableton and Logic will be your best bet for virtual instruments; Cubase is good as well and Pro Tools is just a different beast altogether.

[livid rover]

Me who’s really used to FL Studio:

[pliant frigate]

FL Studio is also very good!

[livid rover]

ah nice

all i need is a guitar thats tuned really low

preferably a midi guitar cause i dont have the money for a real 9 string guitar

[viral surge]

Get that drop tune pedal

[proper horizon]

Hey guys! I’m Ben, new to the server 😂 I’m looking to get better live sound equipment. I have the Behringer XAir 16, and I lowkey hate it because I can’t stand using a tablet for sound stuff 😂 I want something a little more analog, ya feel? (And affordable, Walmart doesn’t pay as well as I’d like) 😂 any suggestions?

[frosty juniper]

Whats your budget?

And why the move to analog? If you play live with IEM, digital is generally a good way to go

[proper horizon]

I don’t wanna go straight analog, I want something more analog than an iPad 😂 I hate using it. I gave it a solid shot for 6 months, I really did, but I can’t stand it 😂

[latent rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq6R-dx10Tg made this a while back

[glacial nimbus]

My studio is my basement hahaha

[viral surge]

Anyone here used an orange super crush 100 before?

I've been looking up reviews, but haven't found anything that goes beyond clean / mild crunch tones.

[glacial portal]

Neural's Black Friday sale is up.

[frosty juniper]

Noice

[wise raven]

i was wondering how good is the sennheiser HD650 for music production like mixing for example

currently i have the AKG K240 Studio

and the main issue i have with the AKG is at some point it start to get a bit uncomfortable and the ear cushion hardened over time and made it even worse i know they can be replaced tho

[frosty juniper]

Quite good but quite noisey, even for open back. Not a big issue if you work alone in a closed room or anything like that though

[wise raven]

i'm usually in my room

i don't think the noise will be that much of a concern

[frosty juniper]

Its definitely a good headphone. Quite neutral but open sound

I dont know how it compares to the k240 tho

[wise raven]

i've heard that the k240 has less low end than the HD 650 which can be a plus for me since my mixes tend to be slightly bass heavy sometimes

to compensate the lack of bass i have in my headphones

[frosty juniper]

Yeah for mixing Id would be careful with headphones that accentuate the bass

Especially since most 'regular' listening headphones already tend to do that.

[wise raven]

yea my earphones has that "bass boosted" thing

[frosty juniper]

I use Beyerdynamic DT770 closed back headphones. Very good ones too. They also have a 990nopen back which might be worth checking out

Since the 770 have been the best headphones for 'studio' purposes Ive had but for mixing the open back would be even better

[tropic marsh]

any critique appreciated

[wise raven]

the overall mix sounds distant to me idk what causes that but yea

and for the cymbals it sounds like there is only the room left

also this is something i just mastered and tbh some stuff could be better if my PC wasn't just dying when mixing it so some of the mix might need some more tweaking when i upgrade my PC but i still wanted to hear how it sounded mastered

[ruby jay]

Djinnbass 2 releasing soon 😶‍🌫️🤯

[wise raven]

sheesh

well i use umansky bass currently but if the djinnbass 2 has the true bass technology which should have since all of their bass plugins has it and depending on the articulations it has i might buy it since they might also do an offer of the ones who already have djinnbass

[tropic marsh]

perhaps needs some more mids idk

thanks for the comment though

[dusk lagoon]

https://soundcloud.com/1wildjam/needlepoint-instrumental

https://soundcloud.com/1wildjam/xlcookie

[ruby jay]

cube chocochip

[green wharf]

random thing that i rushed through

[azure cradle]

It aint much, but it’s honest work

[red wind]

Are those HS5s for the speakers?

[azure cradle]

Yeah

[hollow radish]

Looking good!
I'm currently working on my home studio

[red wind]

How you like them? I have a set of presonus Eris 3.5s and I’m looking to upgrade at some point

[azure cradle]

Ive had them for a few years. I love them! Great overall sound. Not too high and not too low. I recommend them.

[red wind]

Wicked

When I invest in getting the rest of my setup those might be first

[azure cradle]

Definitely! Also see if you can get the speaker stands as well if you have the room for them. Keep me updated about your set up!

[frosty juniper]

Is it common practice to use a limiter on the drum bus?

[green wharf]

Maybe

[azure cradle]

I have a question for modern metalcore direction sound. What is the key to that sound? When im talking modern metalcore, im talking about Beartooth, Hollow Front, bad omens. What is the key to that tone?

[frosty juniper]

Is it or not?

[green wharf]

Some use compressor so i think so

[ruby jay]

@pale adder my attempt at making a wage war type beat

[ruby jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g0AnYHDvWU

was 👏 fortin 👏 nameless 👏 not 👏 djent 👏 enough

the original one was a archetype gojira playthrough './.,./'

[tropic marsh]

https://soundcloud.com/eskape-eskape-337078385/meshuggah-demiurge-full-cover-2021

released a demiurge cover i recorded in 2021 cause why not

[hasty pagoda]

Sorry for the shit audio but essentially I struggle with getting a tight tone
I use the Scarlett audio interface and for the tone I use archetype gojira
I’ve set up my guitar with a pro and everything however if I reduce my gain and increase the noise gate the notes have no sustain at all
If I increase the gain then the external noise affects my recording
I’ve tried all configurations and stuff but I never seem to hit the sweet spot (which is a low djenty tone that doesn’t sound muddy)

same thing with lead tones
the sustain comes with a lot of unneccesary noise

[frosty juniper]

'Djent tones' are quite bright too be honest. Did you try to cut the low frequencies around 65hz-80hz at least

[hasty pagoda]

Through archetype gojira?

I’ve tried to reduce the low knob

[frosty juniper]

Yes the EQ section

[hasty pagoda]

Ok will try that thanks

[hasty pagoda]

what would u reckon i do here

[frosty juniper]

Also lower the 125 hz, somewhere between 0,5 and 1.2, slightly bump 250 and 8khz

Thats a nice starting point

[hasty pagoda]

Alright thanks will do that

[surreal rune]

I'm trying to make a dark classical themed song i think this is pretty good, this is the second song I made so it's still very rough I would really appreciate some feedback

[hollow radish]

I really like that, the Intro reminded me a lot of Gymnopédie No.1

Just really focusing on getting those harmonics to really ring out and be clear is hard but once done sounds so good. Focus a lot on what cords you are playing and then you can always extend them with a harmony playing a bass note and a little arpeggio or run of the cord or suspending a few cords.
I'm intrigued to see where this goes.

[surreal rune]

Thx means a lot, I'm going to leave this as an intro and I'll go with a more ichika nito style for the rest of the song

[hollow radish]

Interesting

[surreal rune]

My fingers hurt from tapping tho

[hollow radish]

You playing on a classical or acoustic or electric?

[surreal rune]

I play on a classical

[hollow radish]

Thought so... cool.

[surreal rune]

I never got this many complements

Thx bro

Oh

[hollow radish]

Want to talk tapping, I've spent the last few months trying to learn this.

https://youtu.be/lVVf-X1Q2Qw?si=BBsoDweZmR22K2XG

[surreal rune]

This is the current version

[surreal rune]

That's unbelievable tbh

How is it even possible

Good luck

[hollow radish]

I've gotten the right hand fully done the rest I'm working on very hard.

[surreal rune]

Those slurs hurt my brain sometimes....

[hollow radish]

Haha ya.

Are you doing artificial harmonics?

[surreal rune]

Yup

It's my favorite technique rn

[hollow radish]

They sound a bit to snappy unless that's what you are going for then keep it, if not could just be a bit if a technique thing though the composition sounds good.

[surreal rune]

Thx man it's the second riff I made

The first ones lack alot of stuff

[hollow radish]

Just takes practice and lots of recordings when recording with bands we would record our parts maybe 5-7 times trying to perfect everything just doing one recording and saying good enough is usually not great

[surreal rune]

I'm not on a band rn so I never had that problem

[hollow radish]

I'm just saying when it comes to you recording this take your time record multiple times and pick which one is best.

[surreal rune]

Yup

I'll have to record this anyway

Ahhh

It's gonna be a pain

I'll have to teach my friend who barely plays guitar to play the second guitar on this song

[hollow radish]

You could record both parts yourself?
Unless you plan on playing live.

[surreal rune]

I wanna shot a mini music video

Kinda?

Idk what I'm gonna do tbh

Lel

[hollow radish]

Fair

Have fun though

[surreal rune]

Thx

[surreal rune]

My first inspiration for this song was testamento de amelia and the Beat Tim henson did with noTrust

Kinda late to say it but whatever

[analog rock]

what daw do you guys prefer?

if anything, what does nik use?

[frosty juniper]

I think Nik uses Cubase. Its good. Especially for drum programming, but I prefer Studio One 6. Better workflow and more intuitive imo

Its a bit similar to Logic but for Windows

[surreal rune]

Why is making a Ichika/tim type riff so hard gad damn

I can't seem to find a good chord progression

I'll try another method

[frosty juniper]

I-III-VI-V in Harmonic minor and you have 70% of Polyphia's used chord progressions

Otherwise your basic I-VI-V. Its the embellishments, not the chords nor progressions that make their sound. They use very basic stuff, run it through an arpeggiator and learn it on guitar

[hollow radish]

^

[surreal rune]

Does reaper have arpeggiators?

There's an online chord generator but arpeggiater

Hmmm

Never heard of it

Tim used omnisphere tho

Saw it on a video

[frosty juniper]

I dont know, but I know theres arpeggiator VST's. They basically break up the chords you feed them and you can tweak how it arpeggiates.

Once you find something that you like while working your way through a basic chord progression, you learn the arpeggiated sequence on your guitar...and bam...your Polyphia song is done.

[surreal rune]

Aight

I'll try it

[ruby jay]

how are y'all gonna arpeggiate a guitar solo

[frosty juniper]

Depends on the solo, normally you dont, but theres plenty examples of guitar leads that consist out of arpeggiated sequences, but it seems you are (wrongly) implying that Polyphia either consists solely out of guitar solos or that its not the way Polyphia songs are written

The latter is hardly a secret because Tim Henson himself has showed his approach

[ruby jay]

yup, sometimes he layers synths that play the exact same notes on the guitar, its pretty cool

[gray tundra]

Using this app on my tablet called Bandlab, not too difficult to use, I suppose

By Christ I got things done faster in dreams though lmao

Also I really need to take some production classes or something because idk anything about guitar tones or how to properly mix

[wise raven]

i mean you're faster on dreams because you're used to it

if you put me on dream i'll take ages to make something good

and as far as guitar tones ppl can help here

[hollow radish]

https://youtu.be/sHR7R-TY7NE?si=J6u2qwVec_zvUr9L

I mean here's some stuff on how to EQ

[gray tundra]

Thank you! 🤩

[hollow radish]

Have fun!

[gray tundra]

It seems like Bandlab is good for beginners but only as that, might have to invest in FL studio or something

[hollow radish]

I have been using FL for the longest just got into reaper going to start Reason soon as well.

[gray tundra]

Nice, heard of the latter two

[hollow radish]

Reaper is really good it's simple but has everything FL I never liked for metal mixing though they have a new metal preset I'm yet to try.

Logic is most used here anyways... like 99% of the classes for audio recording and technology is using Logic even in high-school.

[green wharf]

Stupid snare

[primal barn]

testing my production skills

[ruby jay]

when you apply vocal compression 10x on the master

very industrial acidic vibes

[glacial portal]

Aw shit. Here we go again.

[wise raven]

oh i just posted it in #1095986343848448020 and click here and see it was there for an half hour already

[surreal rune]

I use the same app

Dang

[ruby jay]

peavey, evh model or another 5150 clone perhaps

[glacial portal]

I wanna say maybe. But the last few ones have been anything but 5150s. Besides we already have a Peavey 5150 with Nolly and an EVH 5153 with Gojira.

I'm thinking it's probably the long awaited Devin Townsend plugin.

[opal flax]

im just asking for archetype bustercore

[glacial portal]

@ruby jay So much for your Peavey theory. It's an Archetype.

Kinda odd they would release another Archetype after releasing Asato and updating Plini to Plini X.

[opal flax]

its probably ichika or some shit

im just asking for some thall

[frosty juniper]

Ichika > any other high gain tones at this point. They have already plenty to play your thall with

A Steve Vai archetype would also be great but Devin is nice as well of thats the case

Also dont need another 5150 clone

[glacial portal]

You can easily get Ichika with Tim Henson though.

[glacial portal]

Devin would be nice because he would have a Rectifier in his plugin which I've been DESPERATE for.

Growing up playing Rectifiers (although sadly I have no room for one anymore which is why I use amp sims), has made me want a good Rectifier plugin which is extremely hard to find.

[frosty juniper]

Yes but still better than another high gain modern metal amp. Theres already a lot of it in neural dsps line up. I do agree however that a rectifier style amp would be nice. I didnt know Devin uses a dual rectifier

Thought he mainly used an axe fx unit

[glacial portal]

He does. However, after his time in Strapping Young Lad where he used mainly a 5150, Devin used mainly Rectifiers for the most part, sometimes bringing back out his 5150 just for a blend. Even after he started using Axe-Fx, there was a period in time where the Axe-Fx was used mainly as his FX processor and used the Rectifier for his main tone, similar to John Petrucci uses his Axe-Fx with his JP2C. But Devin fully switched after the III came out.

[ruby jay]

walmart spiritbox type beat, the robot overlords might come after me

what is project 66

[frosty juniper]

That first pedal could be a mooer oceanmachine so maybe it is Devins archetype

[ruby jay]

yes, incredible musician that guy

[hollow radish]

Saw him live was an experience

[frosty juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11dKJPCegxo&ab_channel=PeteThorn

So gonna be a morgan amp suite

[glacial portal]

Nice!

[vapid maple]

Rate my desk setup

[hollow radish]

Can we do decimal?

[trim wraith]

https://youtu.be/5MsAaQJsnAE?si=XG5rLuNcsY-aoMew

[analog rock]

What are your favorite mixing headphones that are in the $100-$200 range

Leaning more towards the $200 range

[analog rock]

What guitar plugins does nik use?

[wise raven]

unless he mentions it like for the gojira track where he used the archetype gojira his tone is from an axeFX

[green wharf]

What eq setting should i use to get a thall tone

https://youtu.be/qZ5V1T8m-nU?si=jPu5YgMyFQlSymyE

Like this

[analog rock]

hey, i absolutely loved this, so i put my vocals over it. my production skills are shit, but this was a lot of fun and i wanna share this

[ruby jay]

omg, this is crazy, I love it
tysm

[analog rock]

Thank you so much! I appreciate that so much!

[glacial portal]

Sooo...Nik has a bass plugin now...

That is so strange lol.

[red wind]

That’s what I’m saying

[wise raven]

wait is that with submission audio?

[ruby jay]

yes

[ruby jay]

nocturnal bass = punkbass 2

[glacial portal]

What doth thou mean?

Also

Neural will be releasing Gojira X as a free update for Archetype: Gojira users this month on the 10th.

[wise raven]

lmao i just got the gojira last month

well i got it for free since it was my prize on the nocturnal awards ndsp plugin giveaway

so now i'll have both of the X version plugin they have

[final fulcrum]

Anybody have any tips for getting a job in audio engineering? I've been working at my church for 7 months and have worked in my studio at home for about 1.5 years.

[frosty juniper]

At most studios they demand an education, but you can see if theres any local clubs where bands play, ask if you can tag along in the form of some 'apprenticeship' or something

[final fulcrum]

Ah thanks

[green wharf]

Apparently cut off the low mids

Using a graphic eq

Or paramatic eq in fl

[glacial portal]

https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-gojira

For those of you who use Archetype: Gojira, the X version is now available. For those of you who don't and want a cool 5150III sim (or wanna just get disgusting tones) it's on sale.

[wise raven]

i did a big brain unintentionally lmao

since i won nik's neural dsp giveaway i chose the gojira and now it has the X version

2 plugins for free

[wise raven]

novelists just released their own guitar plugin

[glacial portal]

They have one?

[wise raven]

they just released one

yesterday

[glacial portal]

Also ever since I got Soldano, I haven't touch Gojira once. It has a stupid amount of high end for my liking. Even with the right IRs. I thought Gojira X would change that. It didn't that much. But I'm still experimenting.

[rocky aspen]

The Soldano is a workhorse for a reason. I love the Soldano and the two Fortin plugins. Getting the Plini X tomorrow to see what I can get out of it.

[glacial portal]

Plini was my first Neural plugin. So I'm glad Plini X came out. You'll get a lot out of it.

[glacial portal]

Btw I forgot to ask last night what Fortin plugins do you use? I don't use the Fortin plugins, I use the Mark IIC+ (massive Mesa fan).

[rocky aspen]

I don't own any of them outright....yet, but I've enjoyed the nameless and the growl behind the NTS

[glacial portal]

Fun fact: The NTS your using in the Neural plugin is actually Ola Englund's personal one.

He actually said so in a video a little after the NTS plugin was released.

[rocky aspen]

Yeah, I saw that video, part of the reason I got the free trial

[glacial portal]

Ohhhh niceee.

Which one do you like between the two of them?

[rocky aspen]

Depends on the sound I'm going for, I tend to sway more towards the NTS.

The nameless was my first trip into plugins though

[glacial portal]

Fair. My first trip was Plini then Nolly, then Gojira. Sold Nolly for the SLO, then bought Rabea and the Mesa Mark. Now I might sell Gojira for the Morgan suite. I like my clean tones :3

I've been slowly moving away from the Archetypes for a number of reasons. I sold Nolly cuz I thought it was a bit too sterile (maybe I'll give it another chance when Nolly X comes out and ask for a trial) and now Gojira with that high end.

[rocky aspen]

I literally playing around with the Morgan Suite rn.

The cleans are top notch

It's a nice plugin to take a break from metal with

[glacial portal]

I play metal a lot and I always love messing with cleans in my songs.

[rocky aspen]

Nice, same here. I might grab it if I use it often enough during the trial period

[glacial portal]

I'm gonna wait for their birthday sale. It usually happens sometimes in the early months of the year.

[analog rock]

Is it worth it? Like should I buy?

Is it good if I don’t listen to gojira?

[glacial portal]

Depends. What exactly are you looking for?

[analog rock]

Basically, heavy guitar. Make guitar sound stinky and heavy.

I’m a big fan of knocked loose and wanna make music like them

So maybe that

Also slaughter to prevail is a big influence

[glacial portal]

So basically heavy 5153 vibes (most modern bands use the EVH 5153). Your in luck Gojira X is perfect for you.

The amps:

Amp 1 - Fender Twin
Amp 2 - EVH 5153 EL34 Blue Channel
Amp 3 - EVH 5153 EL34 Red Channel

Most bands use the 6L6 Stealth version of the 5153, but on the red channel both the 6L6 and EL34 versions are nearly identical so it's good.

Just be aware Gojira has a bit of a funky OD pedal and doesn't behave like a normal tube screamer, but it works just as well.

[analog rock]

So basically it’s every modern metal band Evers amp?

[glacial portal]

Yeah pretty much. Most modern metal bands use the 5153 in some iteration. Kinda like back in the 90s and 2000s most of those bands used a Mesa Rectifier.

[analog rock]

Yo thanks for the advice! I got the free trial and realized that like, guitar doesn’t actually suck, just bias FX sucks.

[glacial portal]

No problem my guy! Happy to help! A lot of people don't like Bias it's not just you.

[gray tundra]

Trying to figure out midi guitar is tough

Wait this is guitar specific I'll head there

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/2VoRwLPpVVI

[red shard]

does anyone have recomendations for free IRs to go with ignite emisarry or nalex ninja

[final fulcrum]

brohymn mesa 4x12 v30, used this ir for a long time, it was my go to

[inland salmon]

Does anyone have any advice for purchasing a good MIDI drum pad for less money? I want to learn how to use one, but I don't know what is worth getting

[tropic marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFl-EW9OZvE

new drum mix and ai mastering. thoughts?

for guitars its DSP Nolly

[opal flax]

rate the setup

[glacial portal]

AI mastering? How tf?

You using FL Studio or something?

[tropic marsh]

welcome to the future. its not perfect, but its better than what i can do manually

[tropic marsh]

looks great but i think you want better speakers lol

[ruby jay]

first there is AI mastering, then its just CPU replacing all the instruments

[ruby jay]

juice

[opal flax]

yeah ik

[scenic jay]

just downloaded the fl studio trial thingy AND HOLY FUCK THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON

there are so many things to click

am definitely gonna have to watch a tutorial or two for this 👍

[tropic marsh]

wondering what i could improve

[green wharf]

Have fun

[icy oar]

Got our first music vid with Binary Flux out! Mastered by Buster Odeholm and the riffs come recommended by Misha Mansoor of Periphery (this song came out of Mr. Djent Horizon Devices October 2021 competition)
Thanks for the time if you take a listen!
https://youtu.be/v5RSHsTzsFk?si=YefGxq1D2oP3E2R0
What do you think about the mix/master and especially the vox?

[vapid maple]

how can you achieve something simmilar to this bass tone? https://open.spotify.com/track/20aCoP9JO1OGnnsSW6RQ67?si=ef2c7b5d727a4ad4

[pulsar cairn]

Hi folks, It is Cihan YILDIRIM from Turkey. I am a singer/guitar player on my own and composing my songs. Just released my 9th song and would like to share with you for your consideration and have your thoughts about the sound etc. Cheers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKW0bQo2nQQ

[digital forge]

https://soundcloud.com/smiling4dal0rd/sloth?si=bb6f4c854b834920a710ff3b5962b35d&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
https://nuinchrist.bandcamp.com/track/sloth
So, first single released

I hope to improve from here on out 🤟

[final fulcrum]

Anybody know what mics these are?

[final fulcrum]

heck yeah dude, love the vocals, one thing i might would say is turn down the kick/808s

[digital forge]

Yeah, I can hear it now 😂
Thank you for the feedback, I’ll continue to improve with every song!

[final fulcrum]

of course man, keep it up!

[final fulcrum]

How long you been producing and working sound?

[digital forge]

I’m just starting, been working on my craft the past couple years before having the courage to release something

But I still have improvement to grow. Also been trying to work the courage to ask some rappers in different servers if they want to rap on my beats or not

[final fulcrum]

Heck yeah man, I'm always down to collab, I'm mainly a guitarist and screaming vocalist, not great at singing, but in terms of harsh vocals, ive got a pretty decent sound. but yeah hmu if youre down to collab

[final fulcrum]

Nvm, I found it: Manley Reference Cardioid

[north bridge]

This not per say metal related, but I was wondering whether it's possible to use a DJ controller as an audio interface or have mic input that's plugged to it come out from my studio monitors? My current audio setup is quite basic since only thing I have between my speakers and PC is a synthesizer with a mic input along a line connectionz but it's either or but I want to have both mic and audio from my PC going to the speakers for practicing reasons. The controller I have is Pioneer DDJ RB which is a Rekordbox controller and it has ASIO mode as well given the Pioneer drivers, and the synthesizer I have is the Korg Kaossilator Pro which I mostly use as an effect box/audio control

[rapid copper]

https://youtu.be/pktdglUCN7U?feature=shared

[primal barn]

ive never produced anything like this before the closest ive got is doing breakcore (ignore the file name) id love some feedback on my mixing (its also still super unfinished)

[final fulcrum]

first of all, it sounds sick, 2nd of all, love the stereo seperation at the beginning thought it sounded pretty huge, 3rd of all, im not really familiar with breakcore, but I would try beefing up the guitars by adding a bit more bass guitar. Don't take anything I say as gospel truth, ive only been doing studio mixing for like 1.5 years, but i think the mix sounded good, i might've added a bit more low end/sub to the kick drum

[primal barn]

thanks! i didn’t actually record a bass track i just used an 808 bass but i get what you mean about the guitars, i just don’t really know how i’d go about actually beefing it up since i’m pretty bad at compressing stuff but that’s for the advice (:

[final fulcrum]

You shouldn't need to really compress the electric guitar, as distorted tones are naturally quite compressed. I'd just say for a cheap good distorted bass sound, I'd use a midi bass vst and then run it through TSE BOD, its a great plugin. I'm totally down to talk metal guitar production 1 on 1 if you want

[primal barn]

i’d be up to talk some more later since it’s pretty late for me but i really appreciate the offer, i was considering using just a simple midi bass plugin and putting a fuzz distortion over it but it didn’t really sound good, i might try mixing 808s in with midi bass so it sounds clearer while stuff having a really deep and harsh sound

[final fulcrum]

that'd be pretty sick, I've used the hard lead setting at like C1 on Analog Lab as a Midi Bass and it sounded sick. If you have Analog Lab, I'd try that

[primal barn]

i don’t have analog lab but i’m pretty sure i’d get away with using a bad sounding one i just wanna get that stringy sound from it anyway since the actual distortion and bass would come from the 808

[final fulcrum]

ah ok, well overall I thought it was great mix, great work man!

[primal barn]

ty (:

[bold kraken]

I got a Glorious desk a few months ago, but theres a few flaws, the monitor trays move around with just the tension of the cables so i had to put paper wedges under, the keyboard tray moves around whenever you do anything, I tried using my keyboard and mouse on the tray but I cant move my mouse because the tray moves with it. Anyways In 6-24 months, probably around 8-10 Im getting a big space for just a studio, would Investing in a good desk be worth it. theres many other things i need, panels,amps,upgrade my DAW, ect but would it be worth it. Looking at a desk by AZ workstation, or when the studios built getting a custom desk. Their both pretty pricey but would it be worth it?

[forest oar]

K idk if this is related producing issue, but I’m using a headrush effects box and having trouble tryna eq my guitar, and I’m also having a helluva time tryna find an ir for modern metal

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/ackSst5xnwQ?si=EtkvVaPGib4Ylmxw

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/F3wDpGJBvJM?si=uODF7iQzJfWphKaR

[frosty juniper]

I feel like these modellers dont add a lot of new or even better things to whats already out there. For a decent price you get a Line 6 Helix or even Quad Cortex nowadays for almost the same price as the Helix.

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/i39IkGWxZkM?si=2Ncr100WCy31dXh3

[quick cedar]

Can someone tell a free software to do music?☺️ pretty simple one

[ruby jay]

cockos reaper is nice, fairly simple software to learn

it is not exactly free tho, it has a free trial period

[glacial portal]

Reaper by Cockos.

And if you need a free amp sim. Look at Amped Roots from ML Sound Lab.

[bronze arch]

Tracktion Waveform 12 Free idk if it's good tho, I'm new to music production (literally started yesterday)

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/HjN2H14rf4s?si=-0VSCF4V_jAHIDuR

I've been after this drum sound for a really long time.

Still haven't managed to get it lol.

[ruby jay]

That's what happens when the drum room is blended tastefully

[glacial portal]

Not so much the drum room itself, more so the tone itself.

It's got a snap to it, but high tuned tonage that's not so high.

It's like a perfect middle ground.

The snare is just so crisp dude.

[frosty juniper]

I have a question it relates to the video Nick did on how to linkin park in 30 seconds or less and I was curious what software he used for the synth keyboard and the name of the daw he was using I’m new to this area and I’m curious

[ruby jay]

idk what he used for the synths but I know that Nik uses Cubase as his primary DAW for most of his work

a chord progression every metalcore band has at some point in their discography

nolly bass carrying the low end

[wise raven]

i'm pretty sure nik uses serum for the synths

every time on stream when he wants to make a synth sound it's always serum

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/j3y9NUQmsuk?si=H1gB_DN_YIlYDC3s

[frosty juniper]

Yo thank you guys for the help and info:)

[cold nexus]

Does anyone here happen to share HELIX patches? Just got this beauty.

[final fulcrum]

i used it for somewehere around a year, and its the most intuitive and feature packed free daw ive used

[final fulcrum]

yoooo looks sick, lemme see if i can find my old hx stomp patches

[final fulcrum]

Can't seem to find those old patches (i sold the hx stomp a few months ago for an AXE FX II) but if i remember correctly, the badonk and the pv were my favorite heavy amps, the placaters were my fav crunch-esque, and i ran all my patches either through the brohymn mesa 4x12 IR (best free IR) or my ownhammer IR's.

[bronze arch]

Yep. I know nothing about music production and I can already make a simple beat (not exactly a good one but it's a beat lol)

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/T4dZZuCiKIM?si=QrIHGeNKJxT1hnv0

[final fulcrum]

anybody have any clean bass presets for Axe FX II, Im having no luck, its works so well for guitar, surely theres a good bass sound somewhere in there

[final fulcrum]

I usually use Parallax for my bass tones, but i need something clean

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/SJGmHG-9I_A?si=1aqd34WNw8TGMWSn

[molten eagle]

mfw I can only produce rap beats

[final fulcrum]

mfw every song i make unintentionally has the same structure

[bronze arch]

Hey, I'm looking to buy a mic to record cello. I'd prefer a USB mic and my budget is about 200€ .I know it's not much but I'm a beginner when it comes to recording and don't want to spend too much (might replace it later). Does anybody have any recommendations?

[final fulcrum]

Honestly, if I were you, I'd get a cheap used focusrite scarlett either 2i2 or solo, and an sm57, that's a lot more versatile of a setup imo, but I've also never worked with USB mics

You can get a used focusrite and used sm57 for around 130

https://reverb.com/item/79662460?utm_source=android-app&utm_medium=android-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=79662460

Shure SM57 Cardioid Dynamic Microphone 1984 - Present - Black https://reverb.com/item/79642992?utm_source=android-app&utm_medium=android-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=79642992

[bronze arch]

Thank you very much I appreciate your help

[final fulcrum]

No problem, lemme know if you need any help!

[dusk lark]

question for fl users, would it be better/easier to chain these to one channel with bias fx2 or is it better to use it for each individual one? i've been doing it this way since i started but zero clue on what's better/easier

[wise raven]

tbh i use cubase but i have a slight knowledge about FL and what you're asking to do is what i do myself on cubase where the left and right tracks are pretty much DI and then send to a group with the actual effects on

but i use neural DSP plugins that has a stereo mode so you can have left and right on the same group so the 2 audios are not merged together kinda and idk if bias fx 2 has that feature

[final fulcrum]

I also use Cubase, but I think it'd be better to have 2 separate instances of the plugin and then route them to a subgroup where you can then do whatever post processing you want. Especially because youre gonna wanna have 2 separate guitar recordings and not just "copy pasta'd" of one track

[wise raven]

well by using 2 instances of the plugin i had like massive clipping issues and had to use a compressor to get rid of that or lower the guitars volume to like -30dB which is way too much and it also having 1 instance on a group track saves a lot of CPU charge

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/K_Wc2-erB8Q?si=F5dLHI3p2ybTaUhO

[wise raven]

i have a small issue on my audio interface steinberg UR22mkII

i have output sound but not input

though it still lights up the LED on the interface itself when it's peaking

but on the plugins, OBS or anything else there is no input sound

and i have no idea how to fix it

[wise raven]

and inputs work properly when i turn on the input/DAW mixer knob to 100% input and 0% DAW because i hear what i have in the inputs

but not in any software on my PC for some reason

[wise raven]

ok so apparently i works in cubase but not with the standalone plugins nor with OBS idk why

so i re installed the ASIO and now it works ok lmao

[cloud cloud]

Is there a good music production software thats free and better than garageband on mac and has better amps?

[wise raven]

there's reaper but it's only a DAW you won't have like amp sims in it tho

[final fulcrum]

reapers only free for 60 days, if you want a truly free daw, try traktion waveform

[raw summit]

nah its a winrar trial

its free for 60 days and afterwards its "free"

as in you dont pay but you just get a popup every time you start reaper until you buy it

[final fulcrum]

ope, my bad

[forest oar]

Really thall, has a bit of a Killswitch engage sound to the tone of the guitar

Some riffs I’m working on for different amps combos. Which sounds the best? Any suggestions or other opinions on this?

[ruby jay]

gridded knocking

[wise raven]

knocked loose motherfucker

[ruby jay]

with guitars and sound fx

[wise raven]

now do vocals

[ruby jay]

I wish I could

if I did the neighbors would knock

knock me loose 💀

[wise raven]

knocked them loose 1st then

[ruby jay]

got some isolated vocals because AI shenanigans

[wise raven]

[green wharf]

There is no other way for me to ruin this more

[ruby jay]

you certainly can ruin it more, just add 15 metalzone pedals and 5 clippers and a bitcrusher on the master channel

[green wharf]

I dont have any metalzone vsts unfortunately

[ruby jay]

MT-A by mercuriall is a nice free metalzone plugin

[ruby jay]

complete cover with that "knocked loose mf" callout

[wise raven]

[green wharf]

Lemme try that

[analog rock]

so im kinda new to production, and im experimenting around with things. i just bought a few drum sets, and they all come as audio files, and not applications. how do i use this?

[wise raven]

basically what you got is called "one shots"

it's not a VST or anything but it's audio files of the said part of the kit in the files you have there

you basically just drag them in your project and place them on the timeline

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/p5Ln_HGix5Q?si=aUsUmWeK4VoSkyMT

[green wharf]

you kinda just import them into your DAW, since these are samples
you can put these in like a drumpad thingymajiggy or use the mas one shots

[analog rock]

So how do I put them from audio files to my midi keyboard?

I’m getting a midi keyboard in like 2 days lol. I have no idea what I’m doing

[cold brook]

my focusrite scarlet isn't working what can I do to get it working?

[green wharf]

Okay ima be real idk

[hasty pagoda]

is anyone

experienced

with midi keyboards

i cant figure this shit out

[solar tiger]

What effect takes a eq band (high or low) and fades it's strength in or out

Kinda like what born of Osiris will do with guitar tracks

I Wana add a high band eq effect on a part but I want the EQ to disapate throughout the clip so it sorta fades back to normal

[frosty juniper]

You do it with automation

In your DAW

Just like a volume fader but than applied to the EQ effect

[solar tiger]

I don't think I can without an external plugin

Or I don't know how to

[frosty juniper]

Automation isnt dependant on a plugin

Most DAWs have the ability to automate the EQ being turned on/off

Which seems to be what you wanna do

[solar tiger]

Yeah but with a fade in/out

I use reaper btw

I'm also kinda new to it

So idk how to

Is there any resources or tutorials you could point me to

[frosty juniper]

I dont use reaper myself

Studio One user

[solar tiger]

What's the price of Studio one

I want to get the full licence but I Wana use the 60 day time to see if it's worth or not

[frosty juniper]

Depends on what version

The cheapest (artist one) is about 100 dollar I believe

[solar tiger]

Oh

[frosty juniper]

The one I use was 350

[solar tiger]

I honestly might just stick with reaper Bec I've already learned it and it's cheaper

[frosty juniper]

Alright.

I wasnt a fan, since I dont wanna 'program' my DAW itself. Reaper seems to be very useful for people who want to have a fully customized DAW

Which is great, if you want that and Reaper is basically the only DAW offering this

[solar tiger]

I jsut want a daw that's better then aducaidy

And free/cheep(I dont have much money

[brave fiber]

Does anyone know how to get the chorus tone for the guitar during the pre chorus of this song?

https://open.spotify.com/track/3nh5RSXnRSHWuQbOJvQr0g?si=ofyFxDaaRWOvA0MbITjdZQ&context=spotify%3Asearch

Also if I can use any chorus pedal like analog or stereo or if I need a certain one

[opal flax]

bro why tf is POD farm so expensive

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/-LzX-FSsnK8?si=oFnXa4oQg88EEBqX

[brave fiber]

DT whammy on its way soon 😩

[brave fiber]

It arrived

[trim wraith]

I would be very happy if i get some feedback on my latest production 🙃

https://youtu.be/83h8c0IfZ4U?si=4CAFDTZBMP2pxxsp

[analog rock]

Does anyone know why this happens?

[frosty juniper]

my track

[gilded brook]

deathmetal test for today. guitars are a bit sloppy

[ruby jay]

how to metal vengabus

[wise raven]

meanwhile me doing classic stuff lol

[glacial portal]

https://mixwave.com/products/avenged-sevenfold-brooks-wackerman?ad_id=120208897777660462&campaign_id=120208827447110462&fbclid=IwAR007sGUVtOYDcXfyp_pGXe582TNdnQpiRofaaK3ojAWAOAnT0PH0lobeS4_aem_ATkreXiq-9eflOnowc56RV1ffAmnRKDT7Kk6LJHfB9007fS0ADmEnTS23wMJ7YJNpLqRtqrevxAdTTNnSJzoySmS&utm_medium=paid&utm_source=facebook

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/kh8dJbD9iHI?si=HsOyA9jU3pqW74ik

[wise raven]

i tried changing slightly my mix on my vildhjarta type track

[frosty juniper]

i finally did it

[wise raven]

https://youtu.be/V_QY0iwaMtA?si=03wynTvzL1GCzTig&t=35 for some reason the run you have at 17s of your track is the same as the one at 35s on this track lol

i mean it not the same rhythm but like the intervals are the same

wait i take it back but it's still close tho it's not the right song i was thinking about

https://youtu.be/fc1tg9qkGyI?si=1Nmt3oyqoX8GK-Pc&t=105 it's that arp melody here at 1:45

still the same artist tho lol

[inland salmon]

Can anyone help me with something? I'm trying to copy the tone of whatever the guitar setup is on the song Home Soon by Issues, but I'm having a lot of frustration trying to figure it out, especially since I'm a beginner guitarist. all I have is BIAS FX 2, not BIAS AMP 2. I have no idea what I'm doing, and have been just trying the pre made setups for hours to no avail.

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/QdaTjl9f-XY?si=3dBtCjPUjPVQw8NC

[ruby jay]

I think the tone is pretty simple, its a fender style clean amps and 5150 crunch and overdriven tones, the distorted tones shine because of the balanced bass tone, which probably is like an ampeg style bass amp. A lot is going on in that song, a bunch of genres mixed together, the guitars tones constantly change so I can understand the frustration a little bit especially when it comes to performing that song

the termina bros pop up when I look up that song

very cool, I like

[frosty juniper]

Hey folks, I’m using reaper and a scarlet 2i2 to record using archetype gojira and it’s quite laggy and throwing me off. Anybody know how to help?

[gray tundra]

How do I make this default midi 'djent guitar' sound actually sound okay and not terrible? Idk anything about guitars

I'm hoping the stuff in the video makes more sense to you all than it does to me, it's currently set on the "90's" metal tone but I've been messing around adding effects and stuff 😳

[gray tundra]

Anyone use cubase? Should I get this for my tablet? (Android not iOS)

[wise raven]

i use cubase but never used the mobile version

and i didn't even know there was one lmao

[gray tundra]

Is Cubase good? 🧐

[wise raven]

on PC yes it's what nik uses but i have no idea for the mobile version tho

[red wind]

@red copper

[red copper]

I’ll show you the song with the techno beat now

[red wind]

w

[red copper]

Bass drop or whatever

[red wind]

be prepared for mine to suck

theres a couple of really decent riffs in it but other than that its rough

[red copper]

Same with this one

[red wind]

also idfk what was happening with the kick

it was ass and so nonhuman

[red copper]

Probably not cause I fuck my kicks up so bad sometimes

Oh it’s melodic metalcore type riffs or smth

Least I’d say melodic type riffs

[red wind]

i programmed mine and i dont think i made it human 💀

[red copper]

Idk why I get big bfmv energy

[red wind]

🤷‍♂️

[red copper]

Okay the metal pipe got me😭

[red wind]

💀

i rlly dont know why i did it but it was funny 💀

that project is 10 months old

i am slightly better than that now

also im getting doom vibes from yours

i like the synth tone

[red copper]

OMG I FORGOT ABOUT MY LIKE BASS PARTS OM TEH SOMG HAVE LIKE HIGH PITCHED PARTS I DIDNT MEAN TO ADD

[red copper]

Thanks it took like 10 hours

[red wind]

...

on what program?

[red copper]

Tbh I forgot Alr I finished it like at 3 am I’ll have to check the program rn

[red wind]

dw about it if it's a hassle

[red copper]

But that song was the happiest I’ve felt when I finished the doom part as you called it

[red wind]

yeah it was sweet

i could see that in a doom game

[red copper]

I could see it too

That progression was so evil

Like I was smiling like a maniac the whole time making it

[red wind]

i could see why lol

[red copper]

Damn that beat in the back of it actually hits hard what😭

[red wind]

fr!

[red copper]

Let me try and get an isolated part on it

[red wind]

im tryna find an example of my newer stuff

this idea is pretty cool

not my best but not bad for a demo riff

and the last part i only recorded on the left channel apparently so 💀

[red copper]

Okay here’s the background beat isolated

[red copper]

That’s pretty good

So far

[red wind]

yeah thats pretty sweet

[red copper]

Well not so far I just finished it

[red copper]

Thanks

Idk what I did

[red wind]

thats real

[red copper]

Ik I used reversed cymbals tho

[red wind]

i should use them at some point

[red copper]

It only takes a lot of boredom to create something real sick

[red copper]

Yea go ahead Itd be sick

[red wind]

i just gotta figure out a place for it

[red copper]

Well good luck finding that out ima try and make a new song with this is kinda giving that vibe

The entire time

[red wind]

gl bro

[red copper]

Harmonic minor will save me🙏

[red wind]

im renaming all my old projects that i left unnamed 💀

[red copper]

😭

[red wind]

going well so far 💀

[ruby jay]

this drifted so far from the actual vengaboys song

[ruby jay]

100% fully agreed

boredom clears my mind to be open to new interesting ideas

[wise raven]

the weird bip at the begining freaks me out everytime lol

[ruby jay]

the bip is the benninging

[gray tundra]

Can someone help me make this midi guitar sound not so ear bleedingly awful

Do I need to turn down gain or something idk guitars 🫣

Oh, sorry Dusty 😭

[ruby jay]

you can add like an high cut eq to deharsh the guitar a little

[wise raven]

yea most likely a high cut and if it's still too harsh and if it's lower than the high cut you've made maybe just lowering the harsh region as well with a bell form

[gray tundra]

A bell form? 😳

[wise raven]

yea because it looks like a bell lol

kinda

[ruby jay]

Bandlab doesnt have a parametric graphic eq to do that

the graphic eq in bandlab resembles the EQ module in neural dsp plugins

[wise raven]

which ones because there is 2 types

the 9 band one?

[ruby jay]

this one

[wise raven]

yea so the 9 band one

[ruby jay]

which one is the second type, the knobs on the amp?

[wise raven]

because there is this one as well

[ruby jay]

that is probably a neural petrucci exclusive feature

[wise raven]

well i have 3 NDSP plugins so idk if there is more with that one

i mean 4 but the 4th one is the parallax which is it's own thing

[frosty juniper]

Finally got my hands on Vital

[ruby jay]

rings of jason richardson

[glacial portal]

It's not. Rabea's plugin has this style of EQ as well. Bea stated he wanted it because of the Petrucci plugin.

[red copper]

For all I know bandlab just has bad samples for guitar parts

Like the midi guitars just sound bad

Or just very midi

[surreal rune]

What midi drums do you guys recommend for nu metal and low stuff? I've been working on my first actual metal song and the midi drums I have sound like absolute ass

[red copper]

Ez drummer ofc

Reliable

For everything

[surreal rune]

Aight thank you, btw can I also change the pitch of the drums on that vst?

[red copper]

Oh yea you can

If you need help theirs probably a lot of tutorials out there

[surreal rune]

Nice, thank you

[red copper]

Yw man hope this track goes well

[surreal rune]

this is the corrent state of the song

no riffs now, I'm just focusing on the ambience

[latent hollow]

Cool

Idea for a new type of music, Death-Hop

808 blast beats

And distorted synths, along with growls

If anyone want to use this please do

[surreal rune]

I'm going for a vildharja vibe

I have no idea how I'll make the riffs but I'll make it work

[surreal rune]

Doesn't THROWN already do that?

I mean they don't use growls but it's pretty similar to what you described

[surreal rune]

That would be so wonky tho

[frosty juniper]

testing zero-g

[narrow sluice]

very bassy

@frosty juniper the guitars feel lost

[ruby jay]

no guitars or bass

[glacial portal]

https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/fortin-nameless-suite

They came out with Fortin Nameless X

They finally updated Fortin Nameless.

[wise raven]

i tried it and tbh it's very good

i'm usually playing with the gojira but the nameless just sounds better for low tuned 7 string than the gojira

but the gojira sounds better on 6 strings stuff tho

at least with the tones i've tested

[frosty juniper]

I have constant buzzing with the gojira does anyone know how to fix it

[green wharf]

Noise supression and a gate

On that note, is quad tracking good at all?

[ruby jay]

its a preference, if you like the sound of quad tracking guitars go for it, but tracking it twice does the job for most cases

[wise raven]

i usually double track the only time i quad track is when i have something that's already with a pretty high energy the quad track makes it even more but i rarely uses it for what i do

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/cdYYUlPr7S8?si=HOZjWLVdioEm-EcT

[glacial portal]

https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/soldano-slo-100

SOLDANO X!!!

[analog rock]

Does anyone know a fix for this by chance?

[ruby jay]

it is probably a codec issue, maybe try converting the audio into an mp3 using an online converter

[wise raven]

maybe a bitrate thing too but it's less likely tbh

i mean not bitrate but sample rate mb

[verbal pewter]

https://open.spotify.com/album/4PXn46JOYV0fQp3dmowyqp?si=LmRT9sVaThufIvHR76iRgg

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/NAOrCn12zbw?si=2rOJ-zI-MKTKZDg9

[glacial portal]

I see why ppl hate Kontakt now.

[ruby jay]

why do people hate komtankt

[glacial portal]

Because it very difficult to route things with and has a very clunky interface and is a pain in the ass to work with. Its also a resource hog. That said when it DOES work it sounds great.

[ruby jay]

agree about the clunky interface and it being an absolute resource hog, every instrument in this track is running in kontakt, so you can decide if this sounds good or not

[glacial portal]

It does, it sounds great. I use Kontakt drums (GGD) for my drum library. But using it for more than that is a past in my ass.

[shut holly]

hey guys does anyoen have the backing track for shred collab 6? not on jared dines' dropbox anymore

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/VmbiaJByzZA?si=05Nj-qQANkHCQSlh

[sage oyster]

Yall

My buddy Mike had this video of him doing nasty growl from like 2 yrs ago, and i said, lets sample that, and this is what happened

Absolutely gross

Used NeuralDSP Fortin Nameless X for guitar and bass tone, then blended in sub/DI for the bass

[frosty juniper]

What do y'all think about ottoaudio ii ii ii ii

Thinking to buy it

[ruby jay]

I guess submission audio is gonna make a drum library as well

[ruby jay]

its pretty nice for sludgy grindcore, thall/djent tones

with very nice in built IRs to try out

[green wharf]

experimenting with a messier production to get a more self recorded feel

i deel the drums are a bit too high quality but the songs are good enough to be shown

[narrow sluice]

yeah, the drums are a little to hq

but I think it's fixable with a weird EQ or a filter + room reverb

@green wharf

[green wharf]

Nice

[narrow sluice]

np. I do think the guitars would benefit from some more treble to clear up the mix ever so slightly

they're a wee muddy, but that might be what you're going for

[green wharf]

Yeah thats right

Its a bit borderline on noise rock tby

For the tone itaelf at least

[narrow sluice]

Fair, then it's just a personal thing for me regarding the tone

[green wharf]

https://youtu.be/1jguIv5VL9s?si=L8ep8PvwjEHaOj6e

This is the song where i got the ideas from

Hopefully this sould give a better view on what in going for

[narrow sluice]

*if you'd like to listen and give thot on this *

[narrow sluice]

I'll check it.

[green wharf]

I think ill leave the drums as is because i use the same project for all osngs (one song is effectively deleted jut by mskung anither one)

[narrow sluice]

thats a bad idea, spot

[green wharf]

I gota save space TwT

[narrow sluice]

Ah, gotcha

thats so unfortunate

[frosty juniper]

finally learnt how to do the pitch bends in cubase

[ruby jay]

kshmr samples work really nice with metal

[frosty juniper]

finished it

[green wharf]

This is pretty awesome tbh

[frosty juniper]

mastered this track using submission audio flatline

[narrow sluice]

Haven’t listened, but how helpful is that flatline vst? Better or worse than JST Maximizer?

[minor ridge]

im having issues with reaper and have no idea how to fix them

[glacial portal]

AAAAAAAAA

I'm starting go down the rabbit hole of drum plugins.

Because I'm fallin' out of love with the GGD stuff.

[frosty juniper]

Idk, only used flatline

It's helpful

Adds some punchiness to the track

[narrow sluice]

I’ll check it out

[frosty juniper]

my fav is perfect drums

punchy

[ruby jay]

changing things up is nice sometimes, I also switch between ezdrummer and ggd products or krimh drums depending on what idea comes to mind

[glacial portal]

I tried Krimh Drums free and I liked it.

And I have EZD but no expansions.

[ruby jay]

the default ezdrummer 3 bright room drums sound metal af, the only expansion that is worth buying imo is the death metal one which sounds decent

it looks sick tho

[glacial portal]

Too bad I only have EDZ2

Lololol

[ruby jay]

you didnt upgrade?

[glacial portal]

Was broke at the time. It's 99 to upgrade anyways.

[frosty juniper]

well, i use perfect drums, it's punchy enough for me

made another track while being sleepy asf

[opal flax]

any feedback?

not finished yet btw

[frosty juniper]

any opinions?

[frosty juniper]

i hate when asio4all mutes all other apps :Р

[frosty juniper]

what kind of drums does Nik Nocturnal use?

[wise raven]

it's a blend of several drum kit VSTs

made by ashtone

[ruby jay]

I thought matt from ashtone audio only mixed his stuff

although sample replacement is still part of replacement mixing

[opal flax]

i fully routed ggd into ableton and from some reason i only get signal when i put one of the channels into the master channel in the output section in kontakt

i made sure everything is set up

anyone knows why?

[glacial portal]

You mean you only get sound outbof one channel?

[opal flax]

yeah

the 1/2 channel should be the master channel in kontakt

[glacial portal]

Did you set the drums to the channels you wanted?

[opal flax]

yeah

made sure everything in the right place

[opal flax]

i showed everything here

[glacial portal]

Did you save and restart your session afterwords?

[opal flax]

for like 20 times

im trying to figure out this shit for the last 2 weeks

[glacial portal]

Hmm....I dont quite then. Everything looks like it's in the right place.

[opal flax]

ik

weird

[glacial portal]

This is why I'm considering switching to EZD3.

Lol

[opal flax]

lmaoo

way easier

[glacial portal]

Or at least Krimh drums.

[opal flax]

yeah they sound so good

[glacial portal]

I'm having fun with Krimh.

[opal flax]

that snare is personal

[glacial portal]

Id love to try Mixwave stuff though

[opal flax]

i wanna try the luke holland one

[glacial portal]

Aaron Gillespie for me.

[opal flax]

yeah also fire

[glacial portal]

What DAW are u using.

[opal flax]

ableton

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/X2rkLnXnnnI?si=erfJsqFx3MjKaoiF

Try this one

[opal flax]

yeah ive seen this vid 6 times already

[glacial portal]

Oof.

[opal flax]

its just an output thing

prob

in kontakt

that im trying to get my 2 braincells to work

lmao

[glacial portal]

Probably.

When you get it to work, save it as a template in Kontakt.

[opal flax]

ik

i have a whole session saved for metal

just trying to get the drums to work

[glacial portal]

Wish I could help moar bro

[opal flax]

i have like a whole drum mix ready just trying to figure out this part

i will eventually

[ruby jay]

the kontakt logo is still the old one

did you try making audio channels for each of these faders in your DAW

with the same exact name and route them in the same channel output as they are in kontakt

maybe expand these channels and check if they are routed as a send or a receive from kontakt

The MIDI data should be sent to Kontakt vst and the audio channels in your DAW should receive audio from kontakt in the respective channels that you set up inside it

[proper crane]

extremely quick mixdown before work

[tepid hemlock]

yo anyone know if the the GGD cabs use alot of cpu?

[wise raven]

vildhjarta goes brrrr tried my best on the mix and master but it's so low i had a hard time trying to make sure everything sound good

[dry cypress]

Hey does anyone know what that “impact” sound is Lorna Shore uses before big smashes? I want to replicate something like it https://open.spotify.com/track/7fQFx37hCurb938qvnBa8W?si=afalJ-gCQly79fxBk9uIPg example 2:20

[latent hollow]

I think it’s just Austin’s drumming dude

[green wharf]

fuckery

drop c fuckery to be specific

[wise raven]

the beginning is very punk and then it turns into 2000s metalcore lol

[green wharf]

Fuckery

[elfin crane]

I'm working on getting the "Knocked Loose" ping on the snare.

[elfin crane]

If I'm not mistaken. JS gave away all of his impacts and drop samples in his nailthemix course.

[dry cypress]

Thanks mate found it 👍

[surreal rune]

guess the song

trying to remix some songs

[proper coral]

Does anyone know what Nik uses to make his songs?

[azure fable]

My nu metal mixtape

[opal flax]

like DAW?

[proper coral]

Yeah

[opal flax]

cubase

[proper coral]

Alr thanks

[opal flax]

i recommend ableton but u can try

[proper coral]

I’ll keep that in mind

[final fulcrum]

As a cubase user, once you figure it out, it's great, but it's the only daw I've used besides waveform

[bright garnet]

is this mix any good? I'm open to hear your thoughts

[wise raven]

i've used FL studio before and tried ableton and tbh FL studio don't feel good at all for metal music for me and as for ableton i just couldn't even undertood how it worked and when i got my audio interface i got a free cubase AI LE with it and it was way easier to use and understand especially when it comes to record IRL instruments

and now i have the cubase Artist and i just can't use anything else

[glacial portal]

https://youtu.be/efdTRDD36D0?si=bpMPXywoU4QczTAb

[ruby jay]

trying ozone 11 AI

tone match reference, I don't think I used it the right way

[visual pine]

Does anyone know any free music daws?

[modest atlas]

reaper is what i use

[visual pine]

okk

tthanks