#Vocals

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humble oracle
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but yeah interface are overall better if you wanna do layers

azure silo
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Do i need layers tho CreepNik

humble oracle
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if you're godly then noCreepNik

azure silo
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Well listen to the recording i made on my phone and tell me

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Oh wait

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Nvm you already did

humble oracle
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you're the same fella on gravesect server😭

azure silo
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You are in ttg server i forgor

humble oracle
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AHAHAHAH

glass prism
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Wait are yall talking sbt just a r roll?

azure silo
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Well also me doing slam vocals

humble oracle
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you mean the predator noises? it comes from vibrating your esophagus

azure silo
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And possibly making band

humble oracle
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similar way by making r noises with your tongue, but bring it backwards to your esophagus area

glass prism
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I can do da rattle:3

humble oracle
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fellow engine throat ppls

glass prism
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Bur i talk with it

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But with tounge roll?

humble oracle
humble oracle
glass prism
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Like

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Hold on

humble oracle
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cool shit

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but ig im doing uvula, cause i don't use my tongue at all

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my tongue roll sounds abit diff hol on

glass prism
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I prefer uvula

humble oracle
humble oracle
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tongue rolling doesn't really let you speak words

glass prism
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Exactly

clever ermine
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nice

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ok so how do i do this :3

azure silo
clever ermine
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so like

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isnt it exhale or inhale

azure silo
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Exhale

clever ermine
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idk how to do shit with exhales

azure silo
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I just randomly found out i could do it after listening to Esophagus one day

clever ermine
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well thats one way to learn stuff

azure silo
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Literally how i figured out my screaming btw lmao

clever ermine
azure silo
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Lmao

clever ermine
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idk i sent some of the stuff i tried to cover in here

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like this one

humble oracle
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atleast that's what i've heard on r/screaming tho

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but well my first scream was an inhale aswell, but i did the things i've said and it worked

clever ermine
humble oracle
clever ermine
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like

humble oracle
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lemme show how my inhales sounds like and how it sounds like on exhales

humble oracle
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Inhales to exhales, on 12 second something i' just rapidly shifting between the 2 screams

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7 second ish are exhales, 0 to 6 are inhales

clever ermine
humble oracle
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goregrind asf

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bro got a squeaking door for a scream

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love it tbh

clever ermine
glass prism
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Just gonna resend this:3

humble oracle
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😭 wtf man im high tonight

clever ermine
humble oracle
clever ermine
sly wind
humble oracle
humble oracle
clever ermine
glass prism
clever ermine
glass prism
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Thank you: 3

sharp yarrow
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Anyways I need criticism I've never really showed very many people my scream and I need to know what needs to be fixed, etc

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So here's a very low effort (short) cover of death empress

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It was recorded by screen recording lmao so sorry for the quality

clever ermine
clever ermine
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ill try to do a cover of this

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later today after school

humble oracle
humble oracle
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death empress breakdown aswell ^

clever ermine
sharp yarrow
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I'm pretty bad at shaping

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You seem to get the hang of pretty well

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Sounds awesome

humble oracle
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that is if you're tunneling

humble oracle
sharp yarrow
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Sick new pfp btw

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I don't know what it is but it looks cool

humble oracle
clever ermine
humble oracle
clever ermine
humble oracle
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maybe vulvo idk

clever ermine
humble oracle
clever ermine
humble oracle
humble oracle
clever ermine
wooden comet
stoic basin
north kettle
clever ermine
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Embryectomy highs sound so fking weird how do you do those

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they sound like a fucking alarm

pulsar lark
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Here is another attempt at my low fry screams, because it's all I really know how to do for now, I still need to work on my pronunciation so no words are screamed here, let me know how I sound, I'm trying to improve.

humble oracle
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i can't stop blowing the mic

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also

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i told ppl i have deep passion in "tunnel throating"

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that didn't end well🐢

glass prism
humble oracle
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😭

glass prism
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We'll js say pause

humble oracle
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when sudden gust of wind blows outta your mouth n it creates the "knock" sound thing on your mic

glass prism
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Haunted house scarers need to learn to scream

humble oracle
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oh that's what it's called

humble oracle
humble oracle
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i did the most fucked up sounding inhalss

glass prism
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I mean I deadass scared two by speaking

humble oracle
glass prism
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But they were ruining their voices

humble oracle
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oof

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i saw one fella in ig with the most gruesome roars

glass prism
humble oracle
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hol on

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idk id it's edited but like damn

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eh

humble oracle
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also cup your vocal with the cone or someshit

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you'll fuck some ppl up

glass prism
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I just spoke normally

humble oracle
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😭

glass prism
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I don't want to sound like one of those corny fucks on the internet but my voice is on the deeper side

humble oracle
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my band does it my brother's band does it my friend's band does it

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holy fuck

glass prism
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Yea he bought some courses

humble oracle
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your highs not so much but then I don't even understand Ben's highs on that song

humble oracle
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idk my sides

glass prism
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I didn't do lows on the cover

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:3

glass prism
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I was a bit rushed and um just starting on it

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Im*

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Like i just started trying them

humble oracle
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good shit

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my lowest sounds like sean harmanis on neverbloom but lower

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so ig im on the mid sides

glass prism
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My mids are

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Well

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You heard them

glass prism
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Or they are

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I did aome normal ones on my blood soaked symphony

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At 2:43 if you don't wanna watch it all

humble oracle
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holy shit

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kinda sounds like CJ's new low on ID

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though i believe he cups to achieve that

glass prism
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He does nasal stuff and doesn't pronounce words

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Just kinda makes a noise around them

humble oracle
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dawg ur mids are lower than my lows😭

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owh

glass prism
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They're lower then my old lows

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And I got a few "are those pitch shifted?"

humble oracle
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how long u been screaming

glass prism
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If you wanna hear them when I was 12

glass prism
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Yesterday was my vocal anniversary

humble oracle
glass prism
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Hold on let me grab the video

humble oracle
humble oracle
glass prism
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Let me grab this thing

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Shitty quality but it shines through

humble oracle
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man got a bear for a throat

glass prism
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😭😭😭

humble oracle
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also

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the quality ain't even garage band quality

glass prism
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I was kinda obsessed with Alex terrible so I only did tunnel throats

humble oracle
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this shi is cave band😭

glass prism
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😭😭😭

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It was just straight off phone

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A shitty phone

glass prism
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But yea 12 yr old me was like dogshit at breath control

humble oracle
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my old phone woulda just clip immediately

glass prism
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I have to always hold it away

humble oracle
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oof

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bad breath control really sucks

glass prism
humble oracle
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like u miss ur breath control you're gonna be screamless for a while

glass prism
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Still at that stage it's like off and on

humble oracle
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mine used to need like a 10s pause before i can scream properly again

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otherwise im screaming like im on bong😭

glass prism
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Mine just like I always stop before it fully cuts out

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It's on command

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It just stops

humble oracle
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lmfao

glass prism
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But tbf

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I can scream anytime I want

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Standing sitting or laying down

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So I'm happy

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And I'm also kinda happy for my progress but I'm only 15 so I'm sure something will come along and change

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Maybe some high stuff

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Hopefully i plan on getting more black metal-y highs

humble oracle
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dawg imagine when ur 20

glass prism
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Good*

humble oracle
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wanna know tehe

humble oracle
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that would be epic

clever ermine
clever ermine
stoic basin
sharp yarrow
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Sounds awesome

shadow canyon
clever ermine
clever ermine
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its very good 👍

humble oracle
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kinda need to work on ur enunciation tho

stoic basin
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I jumble up my words also sometimes

humble oracle
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btw i saw u on r/screaming AHAHAHAHAHAHA

humble oracle
stoic basin
supple jolt
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the "meshuggah face" helps me hit really high notes

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just do that while screaming

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he're you can hear it clear i hope, you can't see it, sorry about that

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don't do the whole face, just the lips, that helped me, cus then it feels comfortable to raise it higher,

glass prism
weary flower
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Where do y’all practice screaming? I need some ideas.
I live with my parents and 5 siblings, and the walls are thin as paper. You can hear it from across the house.
There have been times I’ve practiced screaming, only to be told mum has a migraine/headache, or someone’s in a meeting, yada yada. Doesn’t happen all the time, but now I get paranoid, causing my throat to tighten and vocals to suffer, and causing me to practice very little.

I’ve thought about going outside, and I will in a bit, but that won’t work in the winter. Here in good ol’ Canada, we get -20C/-30C is not uncommon.

Maybe it’s about communicating practice times better? Probably.

I guess I just needed to get my thoughts out. If you have any to add, please do so.

cloud wyvernBOT
stoic basin
sharp yarrow
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Which is why it took me forever to get a decent fry or false chord

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But also basement

weary flower
sharp yarrow
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Well my basement doesn't block sound too much either

weary flower
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I can do pretty decent false chord, fry is my problem, they're very inconsistent

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Hmm

sharp yarrow
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Might be harder for you

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I only have 5 people in the house Including me

weary flower
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haha yea

sharp yarrow
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Both are kind of decent but false chord is less reliable

weary flower
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Interesting.

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I so often doubt whether or not I'm doing the techniques right

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or not

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Not because it hurts

sharp yarrow
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Also I missclicked in adding you as a friend lol you dont gotta accept

sharp yarrow
weary flower
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I think a lot of it (with fry) came down to over practicing

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that one day haha

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ooh boy was I worried

sharp yarrow
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Lol

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I think I learned fry better because it's quiter therefore I was able to practice it more

weary flower
weary flower
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Definitely reassured me that I am not doing everything wrong

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Still has work to be done though

weary flower
sharp yarrow
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Yeah, I'd just keep doing it

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Like practice

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They always say practice makes perfect

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Cliché

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Worked for me though

weary flower
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Fr tho
Practicing is how you get rid of mistakes

sharp yarrow
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Lmao I went under bridges with my friends just practicing a couple times

weary flower
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That's how I see it

sharp yarrow
sharp yarrow
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It was

stoic basin
weary flower
stoic basin
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He had a injury that was from that technique specifically

weary flower
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Sheesh

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And his website looked so nice

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What a shame

weary flower
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Something with some sort of depth, but also free? (I realize this is kind of a hard ask)

stoic basin
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Spin kicks is better imo

weary flower
stoic basin
weary flower
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Thanks dude

glass prism
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My neighbors and ppl in the neighborhood also hear me but they deal with it

humble oracle
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aye lemme try

humble oracle
glass prism
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Basically my entire neighborhood can hear me

clever ermine
stoic basin
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My fry’s are really loud

sharp yarrow
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I have not been to spin kicks though

humble oracle
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Death Empress verse is so bouncy I love it

north kettle
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Also I live in Montana. Getting —34c is also pretty common here too. I feel the pain

north kettle
cloud wyvernBOT
humble oracle
weary flower
north kettle
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That way you’re not bothering anyone

weary flower
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If I had to get somewhere, I’d use it as time to practice, but it seems wasteful to drive without any purpose

humble oracle
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i ain't gl if i see the homie next to me is screaming imma feel happy

weary flower
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Yes, 100%

north kettle
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Isn’t practice inherently valuable?

sharp yarrow
maiden lotus
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I’m at a year and 1 month of vox

maiden lotus
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Me at 9 months with no mic but with processed vox, Take Me Home cover. Recorded in my car on my phone

humble oracle
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homies

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can you possibly do Uvula Rattle and Pig Squeals simultaneously?

maiden lotus
glass prism
azure silo
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Bruh why wont it send lmao

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Its like stuck at 3/4 way there

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There we go

sharp yarrow
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damn thats good

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what techniques are used

azure silo
sharp yarrow
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yeah thats what i thought i heard

azure silo
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Ill re do it tomorrow and see if i can get a better result

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Also thsts into my phone mic cuz i aint got recordin shit

sharp yarrow
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im going to try something with my inhales

azure silo
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Actually ima try it with inhales rn

sharp yarrow
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not too great

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also i used a very odd thing i found on youtube

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it was just the first thing i could find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTTx8bV37Y

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azure silo
sharp yarrow
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thanks

azure silo
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I did alot with my inhales im sending all my attempts cuz

sharp yarrow
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thats awesome

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how do you do the thing on the first video at 0:13

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i dont know what its called but ive heard it

azure silo
sharp yarrow
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lmao do you know what its called?

azure silo
sharp yarrow
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alright thanks

azure silo
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Havent fully unlocked my inhales yet but i can do narly lows with em

sharp yarrow
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Yeah totally

maiden lotus
north kettle
stoic basin
humble oracle
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for my next show imma fart on the mic with the vacuum nozzle as my cupping technique and produce the craziest rattle sound ever

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pray to lord it ain't wet fart

supple jolt
humble oracle
humble oracle
supple jolt
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last growl is false chord

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Im not really good with saying, oh this is exactly this type of vocal, i mostly do it by feel.

glass prism
stoic basin
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@glass prism @humble oracle

elder condor
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Anyone here familiar with the punk band, Children 18:3?

cursive crescent
humble oracle
supple jolt
lofty glade
glass prism
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Actually I deleted it mb😔

humble oracle
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my vocals are gonna be sounding like tom barber in darko though

supple jolt
humble oracle
cursive crescent
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insane vocals

humble oracle
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im just blatantly using the flow of the screams, ain't really seriously covering

cursive crescent
devout sparrow
indigo girder
weary flower
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I’ve been going outside the last few nights, it’s been good

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Need to get a reasonable distance away from houses obv

indigo girder
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Yea I mean, you and me are the same age so if I can do it then you can find a way lol

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Sorry that sounded rude

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I meant that in a positive way

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Like to motivate kinda idfk

weary flower
bold valve
brave owl
glass prism
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:3

frosty dune
brave owl
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Ir also depends if u want to do false chord scream or fry scream

frosty dune
brave owl
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I also thought that fry wouldnt work for me but i was wrong

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Try doing fry scream

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And if i does not work for you

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Try to work on your false chord scream

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And watch more tutorials some might work for you some might not

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so its better to try multiple tutorials

sharp yarrow
humble oracle
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btw discord recordings really suck for screams😭

clever ermine
sharp yarrow
sharp yarrow
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They don't record anything for me

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It sucks

supple jolt
stone geyser
late wedge
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@honest cypress

honest cypress
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Thanks

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Clearly I'm doing something wrong here because I can't scream for long and my screams are way deeper.

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Beno probably helped the most so far

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I'm talking too much probably, I'm gonna record one of my vocals so you guys can hear it too.

humble oracle
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i have this thing where i will always hit the 2nd verse more accurately than the 1st

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no matter how much harder/easier the 2nd verse gets

glass prism
pulsar sundial
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is grit, distortion and rasp supposed to be feeling above your vocal chords and low grunts below?

humble oracle
humble oracle
glass prism
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That usually happens with layers

sharp yarrow
winged sable
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Featuring making brownies

sharp yarrow
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this is lovely

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that scream surprised me its amazing

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super chill video lmfao

winged sable
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!!!! I'm so happy to hear that thank you so much

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I want to be in a band so I'm practicing as often as my vocal chords will allow me lol

winged sable
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I have no idea how to even start :')

remote gorge
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and then understand how important it is to use diaphragm for support, not your throat

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using your throat will shred it and potentially permanently damage your voice

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i actually recommend with false chord screams

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i find them easier imo

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Hey, I hope you find this helpful :)

Don't forget to work with a voice teacher online or in person if you can, and remember to be kind to yourself as you're working on your vocals. It can feel awkward to practice since your instrument is literally part of your body - you can't exactly see your instrument, and it can feel oddly personal. That's ...

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this was the very first video i watched when learning to scream

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you know how you do that rough sigh? you basically take that, add more air and support and bam now you're doing false chords

north kettle
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I’ve noticed something weird about vocals for me

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Which is that what I listen to drastically changes them

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I sing best when I am actively listening to sleep token, and I scream best when listening to slaughter to prevail

humble oracle
humble oracle
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to me it's the same thing as ppl tryna imitate the original vocalist's style of singing when doing it

humble oracle
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yo i kinda wanna start a deathcore band where the vocalist just screams through a megaphone

sharp yarrow
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Interesting idea

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Might be considered like a few genres together

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Screaming style could be like paleface

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I feel like that would suit the megaphone

winged sable
glass prism
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Ben duerr is a amazing vocalist

north kettle
winged sable
pulsar sundial
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Does anyone know how to get out of your speaking voice when using clean vocals?

north kettle
uneven frigate
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Sounds like a dying pig

stoic basin
brittle dew
north kettle
uneven frigate
humble oracle
humble oracle
north kettle
pure meteor
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any tips to find my vocal register and practice singing?

winged sable
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There's a bunch of youtube videos out there that you can sing along with to find your register

pure meteor
agile rapids
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Hey y'all

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Someone give me feedback

rustic canyon
north kettle
pulsar sundial
uneven frigate
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Yeah, that sounds the same to me (not a vocalist). I love that song

humble oracle
elder condor
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Anyone here remembers Before Their Eyes?

serene stream
gray karma
humble oracle
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y'all have this thing where ur vocal stamina just shoots up to the top when performing gigs?

amber star
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u prob feelin urself

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issa good feeling

sharp yarrow
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Fr

supple jolt
meager pier
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Lowkey when I’m being honest with my screams they are actually so good when I let all the emotion I have go into those screams

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Like cracking in my voice and like mixing my voice in a lot more with the scream

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I think yall should definitely give it a shot in letting go of that scream for a lil second and have a lil falsetto action in there

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That can add a lot more to that lil goblin scream

maiden lotus
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The gloom in the corner post I did, first time ever tried it

uneven frigate
maiden lotus
uneven frigate
supple jolt
stoic basin
limber parrot
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emmure mentioned

limber parrot
# stoic basin

your vocal style is pretty solid, i think the major thing to work on is enunciation. a lot of consonants seem to be skipped over during the harsh vox parts

limber parrot
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ah fair

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still, keep at it, you're doing pretty solid overall

meager pier
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For yall learning melodies in songs and all that this lesson is actually really good

wooden comet
wooden comet
agile rapids
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Guys, is there any female metal singer here who likes to do funny metal stuff? We want to make 1-2 tracks on the album where there would be female vocals (we need someone who can sing clean and possibly extreme vocals) if you want, write to me (also looking for a male vocalist for another track, so if you want to do a Feat, write)

pure meteor
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Does cold weather or eating food and drinking make it hard to go to head voice? Cause today it felt harder to transition to head voice

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I just barely started learning singing I'm not good but just want to get better

supple jolt
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cold weather makes my higher screams have some of my real voice in them

agile rapids
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and if you drink soda you might burp while singing lol

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all i know

agile rapids
storm yew
north kettle
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Water is IMPORTANT, I cannot stress water enough

glass prism
pure meteor
pure meteor
storm yew
stoic basin
glass prism
stoic basin
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Eda Deathcore era

humble oracle
agile rapids
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Guys we still searching for female vocals! If you interested DM me

stoic basin
winged sable
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How do y'all do gutterals without it sounding like your epiglottus is flopping around like a fish

amber star
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can u provide an example

storm yew
winged sable
storm yew
stoic basin
winged sable
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I think i figured out what i was doing wrong, i've been trying to position the sound lower in my throat when i should have been positioning it somewhere in the middle and letting my mouth shapes carry the rest of the sound

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I mah record a comparison either tomorrow or thursday

supple jolt
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and its noticeable.

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low growls aint that affected.

humble oracle
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learn tunnel throating

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your base scream sounds crazy asf

humble oracle
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also this is an extremely scruffed Frozen Lake 2 intro cover ^

winged sable
glass prism
supple jolt
stoic basin
plush grove
supple jolt
wooden comet
glass prism
clever ermine
sharp yarrow
stoic basin
sharp yarrow
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@gusty owl did it (thank you omfg 🙏)

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Amazing mixer

clever ermine
sharp yarrow
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Nice 👍

clever ermine
rustic canyon
sharp yarrow
sharp yarrow
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i couldnt do that shit lol

meager pier
sharp yarrow
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it hurt a bit afterwards, i made sure to take a break

sharp yarrow
glass prism
sharp yarrow
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amazing as always 🔥

glass prism
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Thanos you thank you🙏🏻

clever ermine
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Don't be Stupid by Disfiguring The Goddess

pulsar sundial
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I got an ok false chord scream I think

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I learnt that making it sound like this doesn't mean trying to get a lower note

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but I can't seem to find the way to enter into it

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in his first one you hear two times that he switches something. I can't do the second switch

glass prism
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Called kargyaa

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If you're looking for what he does

pulsar sundial
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How does his intonation change so much?

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Actually I mean his distortion @glass prism

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Following this

glass prism
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It gets easy

pulsar sundial
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fair

glass prism
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I mean there's not much of a change with karg and normal fc

pulsar sundial
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@glass prism would you say this is accurate?

glass prism
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Id say

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Take what basic advice you know

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And run with it don't try guides just fuck around and find out

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Knowledge*

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Not advice mb

glass prism
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Listen to a sound and try for yourself to achieve it with no guides

stoic basin
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Alex terrible does fc with arytenoid which might have a bit of compression

glass prism
humble oracle
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borned to scream, forced to Cigarettes After Sex

dire lion
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my vocals on my bands new song

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(metalcore)

supple jolt
jolly spire
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😄

gray karma
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hello chat

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it's been a while

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and I still can't fry >:(

glass prism
remote gorge
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rate the bree

agile rapids
remote gorge
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i tried to do a guttural too

gloomy birch
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Hold up, we're showcasing Brees and Gutturals?

glass prism
humble oracle
remote gorge
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okay so

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i need an opinion

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i plan to do a vocal cover of suicide silence's unanswered

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and i have 2 instrumentals picked out

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this one

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Listen to the full cover feat Christian Grey from Villain of The Story / Down & Dirty:

https://song.link/ch/i/1481638406

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and this one

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which do yall think is better? as of rn im kinda leanin on the first one

wraith canyon
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Me too

remote gorge
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cool, cool

wraith canyon
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But both sound good so there isn’t a bad choice

gloomy birch
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This is why more bands need to release instrumental versions.

remote gorge
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true

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also so

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another question

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when it comes to vocals i have off days and on days

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there are times where i feel basically 0 roughness or pain in my throat because im seemingly doing everything correctly

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and other days where yeah, my throat feels rough despite doing the same techniques

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i should probably already know the answer to this what's causing this? lack of hydration maybe? i know water is important

gloomy birch
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Dunno

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I definitely use water a lot if my throat is getting rough.

remote gorge
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actually better question

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are high screams usually done via false chord screams or fry screams

sharp yarrow
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My question is how does one export the YouTube audio without using a shitty mp3 converter that sounds like ass

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I don't know anything about this kind of stuff

sharp yarrow
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I do either false chord or a hybrid usually

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But sometimes I go for a devin duarte kinda scream and use fry

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Actually now that i think of it I don't do false chord highs often

slate parrot
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My screams feel airy for some reason. Any idea why this might be happening?

humble oracle
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i love devin's scream

stoic basin
supple jolt
remote gorge
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interesting

brave owl
supple jolt
remote gorge
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im not trying to

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just was curious

supple jolt
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With Tagtgren if you listen to Inferior Devoties and The Fourth Dimension, he does 95% Growls, then one year later, he did a black metal album (The Abyss) and he did almost exclusively higher pitched vocals, tho it did sound like he was damaging his throat a lot on that album, then Abducted by Hypocrisy happened, exclusively high vocals and healthy, besides a few growls on Killing Art and he even put effects on his voice there. so dont even count it.

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Glen Benton from deicide is a good example of that too

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Corpsegrinder too, just picked Tagtgren, cus you can actually hear his screaming progression on Hypocrisy, The Abyss, Lock UP and Bloodbath, even PAIN, tho thats 90% clean vocals

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Benton and Corpsegrinder already could scream both ways with fry screams, before recording albums.

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Tagtgren even became so good with high pitched fry screams, he has a few ways of doing it, his high screams for The Abyss, most Hypocrisy albums and PAIN are all different.

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and its not like goblin or snarles or whatever, its completely different pitch.

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Townsend too, big difference between his vocals on City and Alien/Ziltoid

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and you can hear him discovering new things on SYL, Hyperaccelerated Evolution and Alien.

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Then you have people like Chuck Schuldiner, think he used fry screams, but his scream got progressively higher pitched thoughout the albums.

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which is unlike most people, as your voice usually gets lower with time, but RIP, we could never know about him.

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Most Modern deathcore vocalists use False Chords for highs tho, i know Brojob does.

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thing with false chord is, you can train it, its a muscle.

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And i can say that for myself, begining of 2024, i could barely hold a mid false chord scream, now i do it regularly.

meager pier
supple jolt
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this was recorded in 24.12.2023

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and this is as high as i could go with false chords back then

supple jolt
# supple jolt

you can hear i reach much higher notes here, without tryin

supple jolt
# supple jolt

this is entirely false, where i pushed it, sounded very similar to my fry highs. only thing is i cannot hold it for long.

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and its the same song.

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or this from 2 days ago, you can hear, the high note is much higher than on the one from one year ago

glass prism
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You'd actually do some amazing black metal if you could do highs like that

supple jolt
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this is also recent

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maybe 3 weeks ago

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Actually like it, so i ill do the whole song.

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actually i do a high on 58 seconds too.

glass prism
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Id say try and get them a little higher maybe then you're set

supple jolt
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it was extremely difficult for me to even go that high, now i do it casually, when i am 100% comfortable ill try to push higher, probably mouth shape ect.

remote gorge
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curious question

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how do yalls throat feel after doing exteme vocals for, lets say an hour or so

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also how do yall develop your mids?

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im not super confident in mine lol

sharp yarrow
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ive gone maybe 45 minutes at most

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and it was a tiny bit of soreness

sharp yarrow
glass prism
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It shouldn't unless you're like new I can do vocals for hours just usually if it hurts you can be straining a bit

gusty owl
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😝

humble oracle
lost egret
north kettle
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Knocked loose If they only did lows(and used phone audio for their vocals)

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(I can’t mix for shit. Trust me, this sounds better than whatever the hell I was doing💀💀💀)

glass prism
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Lowkey I cojld mix your shi if you want

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It sounds sickk

sonic sedge
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this is literally raw phone mic audio pls spare my ego

supple jolt
stoic basin
glass prism
glass prism
sharp yarrow
glass prism
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I may have to re cover to the hellfire

sharp yarrow
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Why is that

sharp yarrow
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So good

glass prism
sharp yarrow
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I agree..

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Honestly

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It's pretty fun but like

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Kinda annoying to mix

glass prism
glass prism
sharp yarrow
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Something many people envy

sharp yarrow
glass prism
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My like actual lows are rather funky so I believe the second one is closer to a low then the first thing

sharp yarrow
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But I always make my own mix first

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Dang

glass prism
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I personally took a while and actually had to ask for someone to make a personal mix

sharp yarrow
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Wow

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I tried to cover to the hellfire when I had about a month of screaming experience and 2 months of mixing... biggest mistake

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And not to mention a cheaaaap mic with hella latency

glass prism
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Lmao it was like my first recorded cover

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With a mic

sharp yarrow
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My first was the intro to blinding faith😭but with fry

glass prism
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My first ever non mic one was a week in

sharp yarrow
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Instead of silly yell

glass prism
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Hol on lemme grab

sharp yarrow
glass prism
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It was of the abyss

sharp yarrow
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You say that's a week in?

glass prism
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Yea it was bad

sharp yarrow
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That's some fucking practice though

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I couldn't do that 3 months in

glass prism
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My mids now are lower then those which those were my lows

sharp yarrow
sharp yarrow
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That's insane

glass prism
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Also the highs were fuckin trash

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I need to do of the abyss for sure then redo to the hellfire

sharp yarrow
sharp yarrow
glass prism
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Just listened back at it

sharp yarrow
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Yeah me too

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I started when I was 14 lol

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I'm 15 now

glass prism
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I started at 12

sharp yarrow
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I need more experience

glass prism
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3 yrs strong

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LMAO

sharp yarrow
glass prism
sharp yarrow
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I wish I started around 12

glass prism
sharp yarrow
glass prism
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You are aswell just needs some touch ups like pronunciation and gotta get yourself setup with a good mix

sharp yarrow
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Thanks man

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I struggle with pronunciation for sure

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I'm doing tunnel most of the time so that gets in the way

glass prism
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I did aswell try just going for talking with it

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And steer away from just doing tunnel i did that shit aswell

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Infact for highs try putting your tounge to your top teeth for like most stuff

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Sounds way more clearer

sharp yarrow
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I will, but my lows are only considered somewhat low with tunnel

sharp yarrow
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I gotta f around with it first

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To figure out what sounds good

glass prism
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Yea take your time you got it

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You sound good

sharp yarrow
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Thanks!! As do you

glass prism
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Im at the stage I want to be at for the time being just gotta touch up somethings

sharp yarrow
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That's good

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I'm developing a low... not quite there yet though

humble oracle
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also @stoic basin i just realized you commented here lmao

winged solstice
north kettle
humble oracle
stoic basin
glass prism
wooden comet
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An assortment of the bullshit I decide to waste my life on

supple jolt
storm yew
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God damn

tulip flame
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I typically don't like posting this cringe, but here's some false chord I guess

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I been doing vox for like 4 years. Self taught.

tulip flame
tulip flame
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What technique are you trying to do

remote gorge
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idk

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im not really worried about it rn

tulip flame
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I'm curious so I can help you with advice maybe

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I can do vox for hours and maybe feel fatigued, but never any discomfort

remote gorge
tulip flame
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O

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Rip

glass prism
tulip flame
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Frys are much better for high imo. I don't like how false chord highs sound

glass prism
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I do

humble oracle
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false cords high are godsent destruction sometimes

tulip flame
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yeah but most of the time, they just sound wet and muddy imo

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certain deathcore vocalists make it work and do crazy things tho

humble oracle
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nothing beats good arytenoids highs

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love tom barber praise tom barber🙏

tulip flame
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tom is almost exclusively fry screams

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except for some lows

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Dan watson is also only fry screams

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and that luke guy from acrania

humble oracle
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i should get back to acrania

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thanks for teminding them

tulip flame
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good filthy ass band

gray karma
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I've tried for over a year and still can't even get a base fry

tulip flame
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It took a few different ways to figure it out for ne

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Me

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But once you get it, it's so easy

stoic basin
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its not easy

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but you got the tools to learn it

tulip flame
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^

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It took me a long time

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False chord was definitely easier to learn

glass prism
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Fc is fun

tulip flame
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It is but man I love the high register of fry screams

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I am trying to get tea kettles

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Hard af

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Need to sound like the dude from Beyond Deviation

glass prism
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They're fun idk fc also has some sick shit

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Definitely down played

tulip flame
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Eh

glass prism
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I did smth similar to tea kettles/whistle tones in this with fc

tulip flame
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My favorite false chord stuff is definitely tunnels

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CJ McCreery shit. Unfortunately he was a big inspiration to my sound as I started on like 2019-2020

glass prism
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Ehhh I'm not huge on tunnels they're useless to me makes my stuff sound higher better for just sludgy stuff

tulip flame
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CJ and Ben Duerr

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And Phil

glass prism
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I prefer like deep cavernous stuff like ben

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Ben is my goat frfr

tulip flame
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Gutturals and Tunnels >

glass prism
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I like how bem is sludgy and low but understandable that's why I l8ke his stuff so much

tulip flame
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My mids definitely scream Ben lmao

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I definitely like my fry screams more tho. They are way more consistent

glass prism
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My mids kinda idk they get compared to ben same with lows cause we both do that fuckin weird low shi

tulip flame
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Ye

glass prism
tulip flame
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I'm at a family thing rn

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Will check in a bit

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Idk how to record covers lol

glass prism
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You good no worries

glass prism
tulip flame
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What stuff do you use?

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@glass prism

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Program wise

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And how do you mix lol

glass prism
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I use reaper

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Actually had to have like 5 guys who know how to mix try before I got a decent quality

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Bc in like words of my guitarist my "vocals change with every line so it's hell to mix"

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But this guy who I asked recently actually nailed it

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Just a pain in the ass ti level out volume when everything sounds different on different devices

tulip flame
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Over a instrumental

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How do you eliminate background noise from the mic

glass prism
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I dont anymore

glass prism
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Plus

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My gains decently low bc my vocals are loud

tulip flame
glass prism
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Honestly if you're starting off check out the Howard benson thing but if you know anything about mixing you kinda just Frankenstein it

tulip flame
glass prism
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I used to don't anymore tho

stoic basin
meager pier
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Can someone explain how I could do this low sound that Connie does cause it’s really sick and I wanna kinda replicate it

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I mean

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Ik it’s false chord

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And it could be post production magic

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But it sounds like there’s more going on

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Cause I think I have the main idea down but

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Idk sounds like my placements lower than it should

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Idk

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I sound schizo

supple jolt
stoic basin
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I did a sysc cover recently

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That’s all fry

meager pier
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That’s sick as fuck

stoic basin
meager pier
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Thanks will definitely try it out

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So I’m guessing it just sounds like really more chunky cause of the mix then

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Got it

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Thanks for the help

stoic basin
tulip flame
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Does anyone here know how to do the moose type shit that Tyler Shelton does?

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Like how do you get that sound from false chord lol

stoic basin
north kettle
glass prism
glass prism
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It's kinda hard to explain

stoic basin
meager pier
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I’m gonna use the YouTube fry… as a sample for a shitty slam song

humble oracle
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wake me up the day my scream sounds like v10 engine

clever ermine