Vocals

[elder condor]

In the beginning he does some sweet vocal passages alongside Indian violinist and singer Lakshminarayana Shankar who helped with musical composition.

[north kettle]

Here is me doing the grit singing thing that bands like to do

[supple jolt]

my little tribute to Jon from dissection.

[short oxide]

i just want rthe balls to the wall leviathan I type vocals. the deep stuff lmao

the project itself is just hard metalcore, 578's limited solos stuff like that

yes please lamao

i can record guitar and drum machines and stuff, i just have ass vocals lmao and i wanted to see if anyone wanted to do vocals for a little spotify project

[gloomy birch]

https://youtu.be/7x6_2pmVJb0?si=PkEBr-xp2Q-E0H_X

[unkempt wren]

i recorded a chorus for Nik's new song, hope he sees this somehow
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xm693_4PhaM

[short oxide]

1:45 is like to what im lookin for

[short oxide]

@spark egret

boom. problem solved @unkempt wren

[gloomy birch]

In the song?

[unkempt wren]

thaaanks, he saw it! 😄

[unkempt wren]

@spark egret any chance you send me 'Fake' wav for my vocal cover?

so i can cover the whole thing in good quality

or can i buy it somewhere?

[stoic basin]

how i get the sound from here

[sand sorrel]

Brutal falsecord pig squeal/whistle scream

[pulsar sundial]

@storm yew

my throat hurts just a bit because I was trying to find the right thing so I did some bad technique here and there

[storm yew]

Your mic peaked for most of that.
Try to be a bit more relaxed on the fry still. Pain can be normal as long as it's not the vocal folds and you rest it will be okay.

[pulsar sundial]

ah dang

[sand sorrel]

Discord’s voice messages have really trash noise reduction

[storm yew]

Yes

[sand sorrel]

So his mic peaking is probably a discord thing not a technique thing

It makes solid false cord growls sound like particularly wet farts

[storm yew]

Very much aware of that, I'm going based off of his inhales before the screams they seem very tension filled.

[sand sorrel]

I see

[storm yew]

Also not focused on the false chord and more the fry

[sand sorrel]

I mean you can’t compare the quality of voice messages to even a shitty iphone mic

[north kettle]

This is starting to sound really good man! I’m super impressed with your progress! This is great!

[unkempt wren]

just dropped a full @spark egret FAKE with vocals, check it out hereeeee:
https://youtu.be/q4zCco2fb8A

I also did a ''How to cover Nik Nocturnal in 30 seconds'', just for fun:

YT Short
https://youtube.com/shorts/OWuLP_v8aUY?feature=share
IG reel
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-ySRiCuxjZ/?igsh=MXgzbno4c25wYjMxbA==

hope you guys like it!

[stoic basin]

thanks! i am getting used to using both of my techniques 🙂

[agile rapids]

Short way of how i do metal vocals.

[supple jolt]

growls haven't sounded that good in a while, goddamn

[short oxide]

ye

[gloomy birch]

I see'

[short oxide]

well if ya wanna start a project my dms are open

[unkempt wren]

Spamming this and hoping @spark egret will see it 🥲

[lyric dune]

You killed it

Your voice is so powerful

[unkempt wren]

thank youu, much appreciated

it's a fun song to lay some vocals on!

[pulsar lark]

Here's my low fry scream attempt, I'm still trying to improve but I figured I'd share where I currently am.

[bold valve]

Here's a weird-snarl-thing

[random adder]

Does anybody have tips on how to better my enunciation for when I do lows? I can pronounce things just fine when I do highs and mids, but for some reason when I do lows, my tongue gets really tight in the back making it hard to really push out syllables.

I’ve been using To The Hellfire to practice, yet whenever I try to pronounce “through the angels eye” it comes out more as “ooh the onyols eye”

Like it’s much more guttural and less discernible

If that makes any sense

[hoary nacelle]

I am sorry

[deep junco]

My band's debut single and I'm the vocalist, lmk what you think 🙂

https://open.spotify.com/album/6sq1GHIB2Qtcau4k2znybJ?si=670zzXKNRhGy140NTCXzKQ.

[lyric dune]

I don’t know if Im doing exhales or inhales when doing gutterals

[random adder]

Are you pushing or pulling?

Like how does your diaphragm move

[deep junco]

Probably just exhales, but send it over, will let you know

[gray karma]

teach me the ways, god

best ls song

[gray karma]

LOL

[hoary nacelle]

Hush

[gray karma]

it's funny

[hoary nacelle]

Hush

[gray karma]

why

[hoary nacelle]

Hush

[gray karma]

you're gonna make me turn into a liquid

[hoary nacelle]

🤫

[gray karma]

no

teach me

[hoary nacelle]

Okay

[gray karma]

🥺

[hoary nacelle]

Im scared

[gray karma]

says the demon guy thing

[hoary nacelle]

IM NOT A THINGGG

[gray karma]

but actually where the fuck did you learn dickie allen type shit

[gray karma]

EVERYTHING IS A THING

WE ARE ALL THINGS

[hoary nacelle]

Trying to cosplay as a zombie

[gray karma]

I've been trying to learn vocals for over 3 years lmao

h o w

[hoary nacelle]

Zombie

Rawr

[gray karma]

:3 rawr~

[hoary nacelle]

I like to think that most hardcore barks are just rawr~~

[gray karma]

I need actual help learning this shit

who do I ask

[hoary nacelle]

Siberia extreme vocalKardavox i guess?

[gray karma]

?

[hoary nacelle]

Youtuberswho do vocal tips

[gray karma]

hm

what's wrong with SEV

never heard of em

[glass prism]

Lol that's pretty old my guy

One sec

You might like this.more

[gray karma]

I started at the top of the channel

[hoary nacelle]

Hes a bit extreme

https://youtu.be/Uni3b1w3XtU?si=MRuoK7w-tkNSof7t

[glass prism]

All good

This is more recent

[gray karma]

how

I've tried this shit for years, can't do more than a broken false chord that hurts a lot

even with a fuck ton of water

[glass prism]

I've been doin it for a little I just do highs and laugh it may take a bit of force to do

[gray karma]

hm

[hoary nacelle]

Screams are kinda just hard

[gray karma]

yea, but shouldn't I have been able to figure smth out after 3 years?

[hoary nacelle]

I mean people take like eleven so

[gray karma]

I mean, I can do simple inhales

[hoary nacelle]

Some people

[glass prism]

I'm goin on 3 years

September 28th

[gray karma]

like into the earth shit

[gray karma]

:O

[hoary nacelle]

Im around 3 to 4 year

I forgot

[glass prism]

This was kinda trying to do this but with mids

[gray karma]

hol up

I'll give an example of what I can do

[glass prism]

This is also the highest I think I've gotten my mids to be honest

[gray karma]

not good

big nono

not proper

[glass prism]

Pretty good high tbh

[gray karma]

literally just making a choking noise

[glass prism]

I mean sounds better then a lot.of the stuff I've heard

[gray karma]

well, I've been TRYING for years

[glass prism]

I mean have you gotten proper teachings?

[gray karma]

nope. Haven't found anywhere to, and videos are an absolute pain

good thing is my vocal range is stupid wide

[hoary nacelle]

That inhale was pretty sick tho

[gray karma]

I've gotten good at those lol

[glass prism]

Some inhales are cool

I mean I'm no teacher but I've taught a few guys

[gray karma]

proper usage of the tongue 😼

[hoary nacelle]

ayo

[gray karma]

h e l p

[stoic basin]

Inhales are bad for

[hoary nacelle]

Imean the vovalist for archspire does it

Vocalist

[glass prism]

Does he actually?

[hoary nacelle]

Sometimes

[stoic basin]

Yeah studio only

[glass prism]

That explains alot huh

[stoic basin]

Inhales suck

[hoary nacelle]

He did it live a couple times

[gray karma]

if they're used in the wrong context

[stoic basin]

I did them for a year before literally blood after I stopped

[glass prism]

I mean what type of vocals are you working to do

[gray karma]

whatever the fuck works

[glass prism]

I mean like genre lmao

[hoary nacelle]

Learn the jacob bannon method

Im jk

[gray karma]

preferrebly frys but anything

[hoary nacelle]

O damn

[gray karma]

deathcore ?

[glass prism]

I mean I can't do frys for shit tbh

[hoary nacelle]

I used to but now i cant

[gray karma]

what do you know

[stoic basin]

Fc

Falsecord

[gray karma]

yea

[stoic basin]

That’s what he does

[gray karma]

I mean

[glass prism]

Yea for like everything besides whistle tones

[gray karma]

I could kinda tell

you can tell what scream is what

[hoary nacelle]

I guess just whisper and fry it and then project it i guess

[gray karma]

hybrid, fc, frys

[hoary nacelle]

Thats what everyone says

[gray karma]

I can whisper shit perfectly

[stoic basin]

My vocals. This is all fry

[glass prism]

I mean eda is pretty good at frys maybe she can teach you

[gray karma]

🥺

teach me please

frys are just upper throat screams right?

[stoic basin]

If I get the time to yeah for sure

[hoary nacelle]

And a teacher was found
Good ending

[stoic basin]

Nah

It’s like this

The air pressure you use for a fry scream

Simulates cartilages

Like the false folds,arytenoids,aryepiglottic folds

[gray karma]

is the hu- method sufficient? It never worked for me

[glass prism]

I'm trying to decide if I should post my pain remains cover on yt

[stoic basin]

I can send a clip on how I do fry

[gray karma]

sure

and I'll send a clip of me trying to replicate it

💀

[hoary nacelle]

I wish i was home alone so i can learn as well lol

[gray karma]

it's 2 am

go to the opposite size of the living obelisk

[hoary nacelle]

Fair point

I dont live in a house

[glass prism]

Tbh I can't even scream rn so no live screms:c

[hoary nacelle]

Dang

[gray karma]

water

warm up thinf

g

[stoic basin]

Khoomei + back of throat resonance

[hoary nacelle]

Ima head out cause im sick anyways bye bye

[glass prism]

My mom's home lmao is what I mean

[stoic basin]

Then add fast air

[gray karma]

okie b-bye

[glass prism]

Ah yes speedy air

[stoic basin]

People say fry screams are quiet but it’s not lol

[stoic basin]

Bro

That’s painful

[gray karma]

what am I doing wrong

help

[stoic basin]

Learn khoomei

[gray karma]

a who in the what now?

[stoic basin]

This

Its controlled compression

[gray karma]

I don't understand what you're doing?

I can replicate it, but idk if I'm doing it correct

[glass prism]

Tbh

[gray karma]

doesn't come as natural as it should

[glass prism]

If I could help I would but I know fuck all abt fry

[gray karma]

how do false cors

:P

[glass prism]

Let me grab de video

[gray karma]

orkay

[stoic basin]

Fry is less natural than false cord but it’s a lot better in terms of highs and scream duration

[gray karma]

yea

I want to do highs

my main goal

[stoic basin]

Learn falsecord tbh

It’s easier than fry

[gray karma]

my voice range is good

f1-e7

[stoic basin]

Here are some ground rules

[gray karma]

I don't like rules :(

/j

[stoic basin]

1. Don’t go into falsetto with false cord
2. False cord is more of a open scream so you can’t hold it for long
3. Stay in chest voice or mixed when screaming with false cord

Also tension is bad

So is range loss or hoarseness

[gray karma]

I just don't know how a false cord works

I know how frys work

[stoic basin]

False cord is almost the same thing but like your vocal folds are more open

[glass prism]

This is over a year old actually I sent this to eda a while back

[stoic basin]

My false cords are meh

I still use them a tiny bit but they suck lol

[glass prism]

Basically just add pressure from your gut as of you're screaming with it

[gray karma]

me confusion

[gray karma]

hm

[stoic basin]

^

Increase air

[glass prism]

Which is what you're doing is screaming with it

You actually almost had it

[stoic basin]

False cord

[glass prism]

Just need more air

[stoic basin]

😭😭😭😭

[gray karma]

more air=less hurt?

[glass prism]

Hmm try going for a lower tone don't tense

[stoic basin]

Dude

[glass prism]

Perhaps for me there's a good bit of air

[gray karma]

Eda fucking cringing

[stoic basin]

Focus on getting the buzzer sound easy

Then scream

You can ask @glass prism how many times I trashed my voice by skipping steps

[glass prism]

A lot

A

[gray karma]

I'm not skipping?

[glass prism]

Lot

[gray karma]

the buzzer sound is easy

the racecar

[glass prism]

Yea he just needs to find a way to get it to transfer over without pain

[gray karma]

she btw

[glass prism]

My bad sorru

She(

[gray karma]

u goos

good*

[glass prism]

But try not do like a eeee

Try just doing the buzzer

[gray karma]

no, no pronouncing it at all?

just the buzzer

so like a hum?

[stoic basin]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-barnes-cannibal-corpse-90s-gif-14010239251007548836

[stoic basin]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[gray karma]

is that chris barnes I can not see

[gray karma]

yep

old chris barnes was so cool though

1991-5

[stoic basin]

Rip my neighbours ears bro

[glass prism]

Tbf eda you sounded like Chris before you learned fry lmao

[gray karma]

EEEEEEE

[stoic basin]

Might switch back lol

[glass prism]

But try the buzzer thing without going eeee

Just do it

Like basic throat singing

[glass prism]

Would be hilarious

[stoic basin]

Vocal fold damage speed run any %

[stoic basin]

^

That’s my “new” falsecord

[gray karma]

throat singing

[stoic basin]

👌👌👌👌

[gray karma]

now what

[glass prism]

You're kinda getting it

Notice that little overtone?

[gray karma]

like the middle between?

[glass prism]

Try to apply force and air flow

[glass prism]

Yea

[gray karma]

still hurts

[stoic basin]

😭😭😭😭😭

[glass prism]

Don't tense let it flow out

[stoic basin]

Don’t squeeze bro

[gray karma]

I'm not lol

[stoic basin]

This sounds like what you are doing

[glass prism]

It sounds like you're squeezing hea

[glass prism]

Yea*

Hmm try lower

[gray karma]

okie

[glass prism]

Instead of higher

You got something tho

[stoic basin]

@glass prism

[stoic basin]

:)

My love my vocals 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[glass prism]

I'll listen in a sec

[glass prism]

Force and air from your gut

Like you're flexing your stomacj

[gray karma]

:(

I gotta go to bed

ima add you, I'll maybe talk to you tomorrow

[glass prism]

You xo have something for how long we've talked good job

[gray karma]

yay!

[stoic basin]

🙂

[elder condor]

https://therangeplanet.proboards.com/thread/3681/wretched

New vocal range thread. This time for a singer in a Christian horror punk band.

[clever ermine]

(attempted) Depiction Of The Banished Ones by Esophagus :3

[clever ermine]

Different take

(i think)

[gray karma]

that's fucking nasty

wow

[clever ermine]

Like

Is it ok?

[gray karma]

Nasty means good

[clever ermine]

Yay :DDD

[clever ermine]

(dont ask why that is the img :3)

First minute of GangBangSlam by ChokingOnBile

[clever ermine]

MOTHERXU

i jist did Prostitute Skullcap Pulverizer in full and forgot to record

Dam

Did it again now will upload later

[clever ermine]

Did PeelingFlesh now

It's loading wait a sec

[clever ermine]

(the highs are ass i know im sowwy)

[clever ermine]

Did Legalize Homicide by Devourment what do y'all think?

(weird voicr crack at some point srry)

[gray karma]

reminds me of thishttps://music.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4WBz-N1Kw&si=simW0HH0qZHo2UDV

[gray karma]

w fucking image

[gray karma]

where are the lyrics though

sounds like you're just mumbling everything

[stoic basin]

i did this from memory

[gray karma]

ohhhh

[gray karma]

fry scream teach me uwu

please

I got false chords down kind of

[stoic basin]

pick one and stick to one

[gray karma]

fry

fry better

I can't do fc highs

[stoic basin]

that takes months to get

[gray karma]

I still prefer frys in general

[stoic basin]

it took me 2 months to get highs

[gray karma]

easier to hold

less ai

r

[gray karma]

teach me fry 🥺 👉 👈

[stoic basin]

i am not a teacher but i can try to explain

[gray karma]

yippie!

[stoic basin]

i will make a clip tomorrow

[gray karma]

alr you got 4 minutes

kidding

[glass prism]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_J7-tKN2aG/?igsh=Z3RmYnUweW1sbnRv

shadowed.vox

Instagram

[agile rapids]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[stoic basin]

@gray karma

[stoic basin]

basically buzzer + Fast air

[agile rapids]

Im listening to this and taking notes as if I already know how to do any sort of vocal screaming 😂

[glass prism]

Thank you

[wraith mesa]

Infernal cleansing by hollow prophet

i look super nonchalant but this shit was hard esfuk

[gray karma]

I can check when I get my RMA CPU back

I didn't see it :/

[indigo girder]

That was pretty tight ngl

Ngl in this video I thought your eyes were crossed

Just curious, is holding a guttural for 30 seconds good? I don’t know what yalls best is

[wraith mesa]

thanks dawg it hurt

[supple jolt]

naaah

[indigo girder]

Bro looks like the stereotypical death metal listener

Me trying to do vulvodnyias eternal wasteland of galaxies 🫣 I didn’t have the song on so a lot of it wasn’t on beat or Wtvr but just me know what yall think

I also missed the beginning part where he goes ugh 😭 sorry yall I was a lil nervous

[supple jolt]

kinda 🤷🏻, I listen to everything, but swedish death metal is my number one genre.

Funny how I'd go from smth like MIW to faith no more, then biggie smalls into Grave, but that's just me.

[indigo girder]

Lmfao that sounds like me listening to left to suffer to incubus, then frank sinatra straight into landmvrks.

Trying to get my gutturals to be longer, thanks to some help from @wraith mesa

I think I got it down to 30 seconds

[random adder]

I’m looking to get into actually recording vocals, does anyone have any solid beginner gear that yall would recommend as a good baseline starting point to at least get decent sounding vocals out of.

[glass prism]

Really depends

[supple jolt]

gotta have that diversity going

[clever ermine]

Attempted Chainsaw Torn Face by Nauseating

[clever ermine]

Is it good?

[random adder]

Ok I may not be the best guy to provide insight as I personally do not care for slam aside from PeelingFlesh, however what I can say is while slam vocals do have a very distinct sound to them, this particular cover seems extremely muddy, now that could be due to a plethora of reasons, however, if you were to possibly boost the EQ of the backing instrumental, and balance it with some vocals I think you do promise

[clever ermine]

The reason MIGHT be that i used my phone's mic :3

[stoic basin]

Born to be a deathcore vocalist

[sand sorrel]

Does this sound safe? First got the fundamental sound by going down from a falsetto and adding compression so should be at least close to fry

If I do similar stuff for around 5 minutes I get a bit of tingling in my throat for like 10min

[indigo girder]

Walking the dogos

[clever ermine]

Did bro just

[indigo girder]

Yes

I did

[clever ermine]

Nice

[gloomy birch]

https://youtu.be/xAoQKSN_kVw?si=YChqzQJc_IFoxAzl

For some reason my vocals improved and I have no idea how (At least from my view)

[glass prism]

https://youtu.be/zEthP9A1UTc?si=EzQx9QY4pJN1LQrv

[pulsar sundial]

When people say you should breath through your abdomen and tense it. Should you tense it after breathing in, breathing out, or in between or all times?

I'm trying to learn how to sing with grit and following this

https://youtu.be/6crw_CAO4ds?si=x8hKad2cOgphvXgN

[north kettle]

I finally got down the snuffed on sight vocals!!!

I figured them out!!!

[sand sorrel]

Sleep deprivation made me think for like 5 seconds that the guy is Ben Shapiro

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-meme-pog-gif-18585644

[slate pollen]

I was practicing my fry screaming in the shower. I strained a little too hard on one scream and suddenly felt REALLY dizzy. I had to lean against the wall to keep myself from falling. The floor started spinning and I began losing my balance, then I blacked out for like half a second. I'm fine now. If you feel out of breath while screaming, take a break. Don't be like me and nearly pass out in the shower.

[north kettle]

I’ve actually done that a few times. Not pass out, but close to. I do all of my screaming when driving, and in those beginning stages It would make me almost pass out and start swerving

It gets much better over time

[clever ermine]

Harvesting The Extirpated by Cranial Osteotomy

(shitty quality bc i recorded it in a burger king bathroom with my phone)

[clever ermine]

That does not sound good for your throat

[north kettle]

If doesnt feel bad

Because it doesn’t hurt me

[slate pollen]

Dain bramage

[north kettle]

Time 2 dip cover

[clever ermine]

It sounds painful to do idk why

[stoic basin]

Painful sounding scream but feels great!

[pulsar sundial]

Does anyone have tips on dialing down distortion? Whenever I sing with distortion it's full on distortion

i want to add less and less

[meager pier]

Just pull back on distortion slowly

To see what you want

And then gradually build up to it

[sharp yarrow]

I'm just learning to do false chord and it sounds pretty bad unless I triple track it 💀 anyway sorry the song isnt instrumental i couldnt find an instrumental anywhere so yea criticism encourgaed. any tips? crow black sky by disembodied tyrant

forgot to mention the first part with distortion isnt triple tracked im just talking about the guttural

and the mixing is pretty bad because i had to make them slightly louder than the original song's vocals

[elfin geyser]

Out of curiousity, anyone got any experience with Chris Liepe and his courses?

[sharp yarrow]

I watched a couple of his videos, but never payed attention

[north kettle]

Honestly I’m more of a fan of just screaming along to songs you like in your car and finding a healthy way that doesn’t hurt you, using your on voice as a teaching tool

That’s how the greats do it

That’s how slipknot, infant annihilator, and knocked loose did it

[glass prism]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1C4DYP00EU2bp5dJtobYFx?si=OAlBTd9YSJOr5C3jKCMjZA

[random adder]

Well that will certainly do it lol

[clever ermine]

Idk might get a slightly better mic if i find a cheap one lol

Like on amazon idk

[random adder]

TBF most of my vocals are very MySpace Metalcore-ish lol so I don’t have room to speak

[clever ermine]

Lol

[random adder]

Like I can do When The Sun Sleeps by Underoath practically note for note

And then for some reason I can also do To The Hellfire by Lorna, and The Summoning by Sleep Token so IDFK what I want to do vocally lol

[clever ermine]

👍

[clever ermine]

Need to hear that

(not now bc i should be doing homework :3)

[random adder]

I can try to get a vocal one take for the breakdown of TTHF, but it may be a minute because I don’t live alone, and someone is always home lol

[clever ermine]

Gl on that

[sharp yarrow]

Exactly how I feel 😔

[humble oracle]

good warmup song i aint gl

[humble oracle]

i can imitate a dog bark suprisingly easy with inhales

[random adder]

TBH I’m more so working on Terrorist Threat by To The Grave, I can do most of the song, but there’s a portion of it where I have to pretty low, and I’m not great with lows

[sand sorrel]

poor cat

[meager wagon]

Guys how can i learn vocals by myself?

[gray karma]

@stoic basin @glass prism did I do it?

it doesn't hurt and feels really natural

I figured it out while high and being autistic

[stoic basin]

Yeah

I think so

Learn meatwad and belting then add that to the scream

It makes it open

So you can scream like this

[gray karma]

what's meatwad?

[stoic basin]

This

https://youtu.be/TrWF6z8t3JI?feature=shared

[gray karma]

so like

drop it and bring it back?

[stoic basin]

You take the meatwad voice and belt it then add the fry onto it

[gray karma]

hmmm

[stoic basin]

It helps a lot

I can go 1 hour of nonstop screaming with no problem

[stoic basin]

Use this

This is my teacher who showed me how to do what I am doing

[gray karma]

bro

that made is 0978230948723078234027340x easier

@stoic basin this sounds cool

[stoic basin]

Is it loud/not strained?

And you feel fine?

[gray karma]

yep

[gray karma]

yep

[stoic basin]

You got it then

[gray karma]

the way I figured it out

[stoic basin]

lock in the muscle memory. As long as you don’t lose notes and don’t get hoarse then you’re doing it correctly

[gray karma]

was I first did a Chuck Schuldiner scream

and then realized that was kinda the base for a deathcore fry

[stoic basin]

Yeah

You can shape the tone only you master it

[gray karma]

ye

[stoic basin]

My screams evolved a bit

[sharp yarrow]

lovely

[humble oracle]

nyehehehe

[glass prism]

Give me a few and ill listen

[gray karma]

Bros gonna forget again

[glass prism]

I js woke up big dawg pls🙏😭

[glass prism]

Try talking with it

Lil dickel allen sound right there

[gray karma]

Tomorrow

It's 1 am and my parents are sleeping 30 feet away from me

[gray karma]

But w

[gray karma]

Wait what timezone are you in

[gray karma]

:(

[hoary nacelle]

Im sorry for hurting your ears

[gray karma]

My Dickie Allen sounding screams aren't any worse

[gray karma]

.

[hoary nacelle]

Ill chrck tomorroe

If i remember

I probably wont so ping me

[glass prism]

Central but I had been up since 2 am and had been working all day

[gray karma]

Oh

[gray karma]

I'll forget too

Unless I remember and decide to practice frys for a bit

[hoary nacelle]

Shitballs

[gray karma]

I'll stick it in dms

[hoary nacelle]

Okidoki

[gray karma]

Do y'all expect me to sound like this while looking like that though

@glass prism I tried talking

I went to the basement

This is so fun!

I look absolutely horrible rn

[stoic basin]

stay away from the distortion breaking

that's gonna mess you up

you sound choked

let it be loud. don't try to make it quiet

[gray karma]

Wdym

[gray karma]

It's not quiet at all

[stoic basin]

ah okay

[gray karma]

The phone isn't good at picking it up

It's really fucking loud

[stoic basin]

do you lose notes or start to lose your voice?

[gray karma]

No

[stoic basin]

you got it

💪

[gray karma]

Like hold on

[stoic basin]

i am so loud my phone doesn't pick it up lol

[gray karma]

I slightly did that one wrong

But you get the point

So like

Whatever Dickie does

[stoic basin]

either way sounds good

[gray karma]

I need to work on lows now

They're so much harder

[glass prism]

Very nice

[stoic basin]

just make sure you use the belted meatwad voice onto the fry

[glass prism]

I don't do fry so eda would have to help you with that

[gray karma]

I'm trying to learn it without it first but I can try

[stoic basin]

use this ^

[stoic basin]

lemme send my attempt doing it when i was taught it

[gray karma]

Okie

Ping me when you do

[stoic basin]

@gray karma

[gray karma]

I still can't do it

What's the benefit with meatwad anyway

[stoic basin]

makes it more open

makes your fry stuff smoother

[gray karma]

Hm

I'll work on it

But I'm very happy with what I got rn

[stoic basin]

work on that. and if you're tensing use the meatwad voice

to open up

[gray karma]

The meatwad voice makes it less open

What am I doing wrong

I think I figured another way to make it open

This feels open to the max

Whatever I did

[stoic basin]

you're doing it wrong

for me it feels open

[gray karma]

Hm

[glass prism]

:3

[humble oracle]

does this hit the dickie allen predator well?

[gray karma]

Colon three

[gray karma]

Average slam highs

[humble oracle]

good shit

[gray karma]

Indeedo

[glass prism]

Very nice aswell

[stoic basin]

@gray karma @glass prism

[gray karma]

Song

I shall do the listen

[glass prism]

I guess I'll drop this here aswell

[stoic basin]

techniques used
fry lows and highs
voiced fry
Whistle scream
belting with grit

[gray karma]

Literally Alex terrible

[stoic basin]

not really i just wrote random stuff over a instrumental i found online

[gray karma]

Tf is a whistle scream

[glass prism]

Oh god

[gray karma]

Is that an issue

He's the kind of fc

[stoic basin]

you will hear it in my thing

[glass prism]

I'm not a huge fan of alex tbh

Vocally

[gray karma]

Give a timestamp

[stoic basin]

0:35

[gray karma]

Okie!!

[glass prism]

Inhales

Right?

Can I show off whistles:3

[stoic basin]

idk bro

i just scream

[gray karma]

I can inhale high!!

[stoic basin]

no

stay away from inhales

[gray karma]

Also holy shit

[humble oracle]

inhales suck

[gray karma]

That's what nightmares are made of

[humble oracle]

i only do it to imitate a dog bark

[gray karma]

I can do some p good ones

[glass prism]

inhales vs exhale

[stoic basin]

once i learn the exhale one its over 😂

🙂

[humble oracle]

lemme show how my exhale vs inhale sounds like

[glass prism]

behold words

[stoic basin]

do skramz instead of deathcore

you got the bird screeches

[glass prism]

Me no do either

[gray karma]

@stoic basin admit tho I can do a sick inhale

[stoic basin]

bro

honestly

inhales are super dangerous

it sounds bad

so

stay away from them

[gray karma]

How?

[glass prism]

I only use inhales for cricket vocals

[gray karma]

Bro is the cricket

[stoic basin]

i only did them in that recording because i was doing a vocal contest entry that was black metal

[glass prism]

If done for a excessive amount of time there'd a chance it can collapse your lung and royally fuck up your throat

[humble oracle]

i only do inhales to make ppl scared in the woods

[stoic basin]

yelling like this is fun lol

[gray karma]

Oh!

[humble oracle]

especially if you do it after excessively shifting between exhales and inhales

bro i royally fucked up once doing that shit

[stoic basin]

painful scream

[humble oracle]

live

[glass prism]

Exactly

[humble oracle]

i had a headache that stayed for 2 days

[stoic basin]

0:37

[gray karma]

Can't wait for Jered Dines to walk to to me and ask for my best metal scream

[glass prism]

I've never hurt myself screaming just gagged bc I closed my throat accidentally one time

[humble oracle]

the dream of everyone

[stoic basin]

i talked to Jared a few days ago

[glass prism]

Prob the only reason I started try harding getting better at vocals

[humble oracle]

PLEASE JARED DINES METAL SCREAMING IS NOT A TALENT PART 3😭😭😭😭

[stoic basin]

i show him my screams he thinks they are sounding great

[stoic basin]

i got screenshots too

[humble oracle]

i wish i can do that but ben duerr

imaginr

the happiness

[humble oracle]

try looking down maybe

[glass prism]

Literally me tho

[gray karma]

A vocal teacher from a long time ago said to not look down while going low

[glass prism]

I wish to vocally become ben

[gray karma]

Metal kitty

[glass prism]

Just makes it quiet rlly

[humble oracle]

owh then mbmb

[humble oracle]

imagine hearing ben's low upfront and raw

[glass prism]

I have

[humble oracle]

i once told someone i have deep passion in tunnel throating (it didn't end well)

[glass prism]

Pause?

[gray karma]

@stoic basin are these good steps to follow

[humble oracle]

lemme steal that part of memory of your life

[glass prism]

But ben is probably the person I get compared to like the most

So I'm happy:3

[humble oracle]

i get compared with tom barber

honestly happy asf tho tom is crazy asf unique

[glass prism]

They sound similar

Just tom is cromchier boi

[humble oracle]

that means you're the real shit

[stoic basin]

i sound like idk

[humble oracle]

now cover The Return💀

[stoic basin]

idk who i sound alike to

[glass prism]

I have

It was ass but I have

[humble oracle]

holy fuck😭

[glass prism]

(Very very rough mix)

[humble oracle]

anyone is godly if they can cover the 1st verse

yk

[glass prism]

https://youtu.be/ZfLc6aNk9DY?si=ej8mwBpYFrw3RcFl

[humble oracle]

from "Vivisection of the cosmos" to "Through Rock Metal..."

[glass prism]

I basically mumbled it

Not even gonna try and lie

[humble oracle]

you sir gained a like and a sub

i can hear the mumble😭

[glass prism]

😭😭😭😭

My mix is 100% better now ngl

[glass prism]

This is it for comparison

[humble oracle]

holy shit

bro became a mixer

[glass prism]

Mu friend made me a better fx chain😭

[humble oracle]

ive been learning fabfilter

so far i learned nothing

cause it still sounds like bandlab quality

[humble oracle]

good shit

i remember needing 8 layer for my vocal for a band featurr😭

[glass prism]

I usually only use one

Especially for that Khublai Kahn cover

[gray karma]

I'm going to bed

[glass prism]

Mainly just mids and then a section or two of highs

[humble oracle]

mine was uh

[glass prism]

I have done a feature om a song already just waiting for more

If you wanna check out the song

[humble oracle]

2 mids with diff effects
2 diff type of high (one is the predator thing)
1 normal lows
1 inhale lows
the other 2 idk i forgot

[humble oracle]

aye sure

[glass prism]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1C4DYP00EU2bp5dJtobYFx?si=obKtc7HBQ9abxKeUkfKgeQ

At 1:15 and the beginning the second line is me

[humble oracle]

bro the drums

what the fuck

im scared

[glass prism]

Everyone says that😭

He programmed them

[humble oracle]

😭😭😭😭

entering your vocals

holy shit

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

your highs

making me high

[glass prism]

Tbh the snarl at the end of my section

Wasnt my idea

I kinda just retracked his part

[stoic basin]

i wonder who i sound like

[glass prism]

You sound like yourself

Not a bad thing actually a rather good thing

[stoic basin]

That’s great!!!!

[humble oracle]

goes hard tbh

[humble oracle]

if oliver sykes scream was healthy

[glass prism]

Idk I'm not huge on snarls anymore but I was gonna add a whistle tone that would be jn the background after jt but changed my mind

[humble oracle]

bro with the crazy ass drums you ain't hearing a single shit of whistle

💀😭

[glass prism]

😭😭😭

He had them loud asg

Asf

[gray karma]

This sounds like my vocals!

[glass prism]

I also have a rough cover that j did Travis Ryan melodic highs on (they were very rough)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_2YmrJR2ql/?igsh=MWltbm0yZWFzcXc0Mw==

[stoic basin]

I don’t really hear it

[humble oracle]

gave you a follow dawg

bonus points if you know my bio referrence🗿

[glass prism]

How melancholy

🙏

[humble oracle]

🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

u sir are the real shit

[humble oracle]

your fries sounds fairly similar to oli's, not identical but similar

[glass prism]

Possibly the biggest soi fan you'll meet

[humble oracle]

o7

[stoic basin]

that's good but weird

[north kettle]

I made this song a long time ago, and idk if I should release it or not. It would be my first song ever releasing

[gray karma]

@stoic basin I think I got it? I feel like I'm worse than yesterday

[frosty dune]

Is anyone here able to do a scream similar to a hyena cackle? I wanna hear what it would sound like.

[glass prism]

I can laugh with a scream yes

[humble oracle]

wake me up the day I can Devin from Worm Shepherd 's scream

[humble oracle]

holy shit

[glass prism]

I was more trying to settle the rattle to shine through but they can go louder and higher

[humble oracle]

rattle is my love

[glass prism]

Rattle fun

[humble oracle]

nothing beats the suprised feeling you get when the vocalist rattles

[glass prism]

I was gonna use them with my band but they never gave me any music to do it to

[humble oracle]

btw i can compare the drum fuckery on God Ov Tyranny so well with Three Bastards by Infant

to say how crazy both is

[humble oracle]

too bad, all ik is that's gonna be my main highs fr

[stoic basin]

@glass prism @humble oracle

[humble oracle]

bro actually lost it

😭

[humble oracle]

btw with your screaming technique you can get a real good pig squeal

knowing that from a friend who does the same type of screams

[glass prism]

A singular squeal

[humble oracle]

rating based on similarities with ben
8/10

[glass prism]

What's a 10 lol

(And how do I achieve it)

[humble oracle]

10 is ben

unless you switched throat with him

i dont think so

[humble oracle]

9 is getting wetter vocals and stronger projection

[glass prism]

Projection is easy bc I was more of just throwing it out but wetter vocals

Is gonna be hard

[humble oracle]

bro ben raw vocals is like if an animal decided to use an engine for a diaphragm and devil's esophagus for a throat

[glass prism]

He just has more natural crunch than me which I wish I had it

[humble oracle]

how to be wet 101

[glass prism]

Very not so easy

[humble oracle]

it's like godsent lvl of crunch

[glass prism]

My raws are decent

Hopefully

[humble oracle]

it is amazing actually

[glass prism]

I need to learn how to get that crunch

[gray karma]

People at my school thinking I'm mentally insane

[stoic basin]

my band mates were like "She might be a tad bit crazy"

[humble oracle]

💀

[humble oracle]

💀😭

[gray karma]

Is it good

[stoic basin]

I take heavily influnce from Justin Bonitz from tallah

[humble oracle]

you sound almost like Will Ramos on his pitched goblic highs
without the extra layer fuckery on Will's magical throat of wonder fuckery

[gray karma]

To me it sounds like a dickie Allen goblin

[humble oracle]

I can see you didn't only take his vocal skills alone
you adopted the personality aswell😭

[gray karma]

But they're super similar anyway

[humble oracle]

yeah same shit tbh

[gray karma]

So I assume that's a compliment

[humble oracle]

it is dw

[gray karma]

If so, thank you 😭

[humble oracle]

why tf ppl always gets confused with my compliments😭

[gray karma]

It's not you

It's me not being well versed socially

[humble oracle]

dw bro

imma take it as "both of us" problem😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[stoic basin]

yeah lol.

i got vocal adhd. i wanna pickup another technique

[humble oracle]

learn pig squeals

your vocal technique, again would produce real crazy squeals
coming off my experience knowing a friend who scream similarly to you

and he does crazy ass squeals

[stoic basin]

i can do pig squeals but they don't sound super piercing tho

[humble oracle]

squeals takes a lot of practice to perfect

like, it ain't the same as figuring out a scream

that's the 1st part of it, after that you need to learn to polish the skills even further

like training for a pullup in a sense tbh

[glass prism]

What yall know abt vocals while laying down

[humble oracle]

common ritual in my place

we call it "demon baby"

[glass prism]

Look towards drawing that crunch out and pronouncing words

[hoary nacelle]

Theres a japanese stick thats like 5'4 and still has ghe beefiest vocals known to man

Search up mirrors - addiction to misery

[gray karma]

I'll try

[gloomy birch]

https://youtu.be/uoo5jn0Ivzw

Guys, what do you think of this?

[glass prism]

Car

[stoic basin]

@gray karma your technique is unsafe

Drop it

[gray karma]

It is?

[stoic basin]

Yeah

[gray karma]

Was I doing it correctly before?

[stoic basin]

My teacher said so

[stoic basin]

No

[gray karma]

Oh shit

It doesn't hurt or anything though

Ask your teacher what I'm doing wrong

[stoic basin]

Everything

You’re not doing the false fold fry part right

[gray karma]

Oh

Am I constricting too much?

[stoic basin]

The whole thing is wrong

[gray karma]

:(

[stoic basin]

Because you were rushing

[gray karma]

I wasn't

I figured it out by accident

[stoic basin]

Learn kargyraa first

[gray karma]

I don't know what that means but okie

[stoic basin]

Do not work on anything else until that is solid

[gray karma]

What is a karlilasiyga

[stoic basin]

Throat singing

That will help unlock your scream

[gray karma]

I can perfectly throat sing

Also I thought that was for false cords

[stoic basin]

You can do fry with it too

[gray karma]

Hm

Yea I'll stop those frys

Thanks for letting me know

At least I didn't hurt my voice

But I did wake up with a slightly sore throat this morning, but that's because I'm sick in general lol

[stoic basin]

I am a bad teacher 😦

[gray karma]

You're not trained to be a teacher

It's not your fault

You did help a lot tbh

[humble oracle]

I WILL NOT ROOT

[glass prism]

A part of that same song

[humble oracle]

QHY DO YOU CONTINUE IN STRIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEES RECLAIMEEEER
SURRENDER THE CONSTRUCT

[glass prism]

Have you my cover of the song

It's rather old

[humble oracle]

uh no

[glass prism]

Wanna hear?:3

[north kettle]

Idk what this scream is called, but I really fuck with it

[stoic basin]

@glass prism @humble oracle

[glass prism]

What is this

[stoic basin]

Me screaming to Tallah

While having the worse possible vocal hygiene ever

[glass prism]

Interesting

[stoic basin]

idk if the falsetto fc thing is safe

[north kettle]

My new song

[humble oracle]

sick ass squeal

[humble oracle]

btw is your vocal teacher justin bonitz perhaps?if so w love the guy🙏

[stoic basin]

No he isn’t sadly

[clever ermine]

you do this with inhale or exhale?

[humble oracle]

how long did bro scroll for that

i ain't gl tho if that was exhale then that's stupid amazing

[humble oracle]

aw i see

[north kettle]

It was an inhale lol

[clever ermine]

thankss

[clever ermine]

i have to figure out how to do it now

[north kettle]

Took me 2 months to lean lol.

[clever ermine]

dam

idk i can kinda make a thing that kinda sounds

emphasis on kinda

[north kettle]

But I also don’t use videos, or other people’s tips. I just learn by listening and imitating it

[clever ermine]

based

[glass prism]

As a real feller does

[clever ermine]

i need help how tf do i do the Esophagus/First Degree Murder vocals thing

https://open.spotify.com/track/6uQQGkh34BAYnezmMAuRmJ
like this

https://open.spotify.com/track/4oBRGR3RTT26tMAoeLgz25?
or this

[azure silo]

@clever ermine the roll?

[humble oracle]

predator vocals practice

[clever ermine]

?

[azure silo]

The pedator roll vocals from Esophagus was that what you were talking about

[clever ermine]

Like the clicking noises?

If yea those ones

[azure silo]

Enjoy it brother

[clever ermine]

You MIGHT be goated

[azure silo]

Might?

[clever ermine]

Mf just start a band already

[azure silo]

LMAO

[clever ermine]

Unironically

[azure silo]

I wish brother

[azure silo]

I wish...

[clever ermine]

It sounds so good tho

Like mf

Find people you NEED to make a band

[azure silo]

I got no actual recording equipment

[clever ermine]

I don't think a mic costs THAT much

Like a decent quality one

[azure silo]

I mean true

We will see

[azure silo]

Maaaaybe if i save up

We might actually do this brothers

[humble oracle]

get focusrite interface and buy used e835 if you're on budget

then life = godly

[humble oracle]

will be the guy asking in your dms "merch when" soon enough

[azure silo]

They arent that expensive brand new the e835 i could save up honestly even buy it on friday buuuut i do need tl save up soo maybe next paycheck

The focusrite is more on the hefty money

But we will see

Ill save 1k every month soooooo i could probobly get it within a couple of months

[humble oracle]

o7

functions fairly the same as guitar which is
good amp + bad guitar = good tone

so yes go for nice interface first

[azure silo]

I got a guitar and amp with distorsion already

[humble oracle]

oh

then connect them mic on your amp

n enjoy