Guitars & Bass

[inner bone]

Like I have the tools for it man

[lethal fractal]

You don't have scissors in your house?
They aren't as good as small small wire cutters but still work.
At that if you don't have them just unwind the and thale them out.

[lethal fractal]

Trying flat wounds for the first time and yea first impressions much better to my ears.

[visual phoenix]

Hello everyone! I wanted to try out an audio interface, because my neighbours don't really seem to be keen on my playing, and this seems to be a good option. And i have a few questions

1. I found Arturia MiniFuse 1 has some really good reviews, but has anyone tried it, is it at least decent or should i be looking for something else?
2. If i buy, for example, a wah pedal can i connect my guitar into it than into the audio interface and than when i run it through a plug-in get the wah effect?

[open fjord]

1. I have not tried the MiniFuse 1. Never even heard of it. Quite honestly it all depends on budget when it comes to audio interfaces and ease of use. Focusrite are good for both. Especially if it's your first one.

2. Yes you will get the wah effect. It's the same as running a wah pedal in front of the amp. It's just the audio interface is the stand in. This is also works the same for volume pedals as well.

[visual phoenix]

thank you very much for your answer!

[open fjord]

Your welcome!

[open fjord]

I have to ask. Are you looking at any amp Sims in particular you want to use?

[visual phoenix]

i was recommended by a guy from a guitar shop to use archtype: gojira

[plain vine]

Archetype Gojira is pretty good. It's the one I use the most and you can make plenty of good hard rock and metal sounds with it.

Many amp sims have free trials (not just the ones from Neuraldsp), so when you get an audio interface, start by using those trials but I'd recommend not to activate all of them at once because then you spend less time getting to know all of what each one does best.

Also a really good free sim to check out called Amped Roots, it sounds pretty much the same as the 3rd amp in Archetype Gojira but it's free.

[visual phoenix]

thank you very much for your advice!

[visual phoenix]

oh, just remembered i have another question about this amp sim, what do you think of it when it comes to clean tones, are you satisfied with it?

[plain vine]

Archetype gojira has good cleans in my opinion, but it’s not the main focus (it’s primarily for metal).

[toxic wharf]

Deoends on the type of gain you want, but the Plini one has a lot to offer

[lethal fractal]

The cleans are fine, it depends what you want.
Try out, Gojira, Plini, and Nolly they all have a lot to offer.

[strange light]

I bought a RAT distortion pedal but I'm not really happy with the sound. Are there any tips on how to improve it or which pedal to buy instead?

[lethal fractal]

Which Rat did you buy?

[lethal fractal]

What do you dislike about the current sound you have and what are you trying to achieve with your tone?

[short basalt]

Does anyone know if My Own Summer is played with a pick on bass? I looked it up and it just gave me covers where they used fingers, but it sounds a lot closer to the actual bass line to me when I use a pick

[serene pine]

I swear to god every tab for Sixpounder by CoB I can find has the solo wrong

like what

even I figured it out and im shit

[strange light]

It sounds more like overdrive than distortion. in particular low notes and palm Mutes. I'd like just a regular distortion sound

[lethal fractal]

You do have the distortion cranked to the max.
I'm assuming you have played with the nob but having it at max is going to be pretty crushing

[open fjord]

What kind of style do you play?

Though Gojira is very good sometimes people are in search of specific tones.

[spring epoch]

hey guys, should i get a flying v, im a metalcore artist

[crisp swan]

Anyone know how to get close to the tone of Jim Root on this video: https://youtu.be/H4XsQLpzg9s?si=PrO0sNlxt1ACPJjf

I have archetype gojira x if someone has like a preset or something

[lethal fractal]

Get whatever you like

[open fjord]

Archetype: Gojira X is too tight to get a tone like that. The two gain amps are based on the 5153's blue and red channels and a lot of eq work would need to be done to get it to sound like an Orange amp.

[crisp swan]

I do have an orange amp

but a relatively small one

[open fjord]

There are Orange amp sims you can use, like from ML Sound Lab.

STL Tones has one too.

[open fjord]

https://ml-sound-lab.com/pages/amped-oracle

https://www.stltones.com/products/stl-amphub-origin-rocker-mki-model

They're very cheap too in comparison to the Neural stuff.

[plain vine]

As Conic said, Get whatever you like. Flying V is just a body shape... It's not as popular in metalcore but if you like the style and feels good to play then get one (But if you want to look more modern then I'd recommend something newer and pointier than a vintage spec gibson/epiphone... once again though, who cares as long as you like it 🤷‍♂️ )

[crisp swan]

You could even rock with a hello kitty guitar

[plain vine]

Nothing more metal than a hello kitty guitar. It's got that "Didn't ask your opinion, I'll play what I want" type energy.

[crisp swan]

Yeah haha

I think it instantly makes you 10% better at playing too

Because of the confidence boost

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/DDOw841D5PU?si=ql2tf7g8DtzDHDyW

[visual phoenix]

I hope i get your question right. So i m mostly into metal music i enjoy it the most playing on guitar, the reason i asked about the clean tone is that i want to experiment some other genres that require such tone, i haven t experiment other genres because i was never satisfied with what my blackstar fly 3 mini has to offer, and that s other reason i want an improvement, i m no longer satisfied with what that mini amp can offer me

[open fjord]

I see...any particular influences that you take inspiration from be it tone wise or playing wise? These things all help when looking for what you want in an amp sim.

[visual phoenix]

Ugh, nothing in particular, really... when i learn a new song i try to make a similar tone to the original (never actually managed to do so), i never wrote anything on my own but i'm looking forward to do so.

[open fjord]

Hmm....since you were looking into Neural DSP, you might want to really consider Archetype Nolly X or Plini X. Reason being is that while Gojira is VERY good for metal, since you're also looking into clean tones, as good as Gojira is, the clean amp can break up very quickly and the FX really lend themselves to Gojira being heavy af. Plus both the lead and crunch amps have ridiculous amount of gain on tap.

As for why Nolly, well it's extremely versatile. It does a lot of things really well. Although it's Peavey 5150 and Marshall JCM800 are sort of the main attractions for your high gain and crunch, the Bogner Shiva (it's clean amp) is no slouch and is pretty good for cleans. The Victory V30 Countess which is the 4th amp is also surprising good for leads. You will get a LOT out of this plugin, even if it's a bit more basic than Gojira, it's a bit more versatile in my opinion. Plus you have so many options for the built in IRs that you can't really go wrong with it.

As for for why Plini, although Nolly is extremely versatile and sounds awesome, Plini has this sweetness to it. The Dumble (clean amp) is even BETTER than Nolly's Bogner in my opinion. Although the other two amps are Friedmans (which are essentially modded Marshalls) one being the high gain HBE the other being the really nice and crunchy BE, there's a lot you can get out of them. Arc Plini was my first plugin and I haven't gotten rid of it. The FX are also really really nice too. They are pretty subtle at first but you can get crazy with them the more you crank em. The FX section doesn't get as crazy as Gojira, Petrucci, or even Rabea, but it feels good. Unfortunately you're stuck with one cab, but if you use external IRs then that's not an issue.

[reef coral]

This is the gear I use for recording, I also use a Universal Audio Volt-2 as my interface.

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[visual phoenix]

Fortunately neural dsp gives free trials to their plugins, and i'll give a first chance to nolly, than plini and just for fun gojira. Thank you very much for your answers and your time!

[plain vine]

What's that black one, 3rd from the left?

[reef coral]

It’s a 2006 Schecter hellraiser c-7 with Emg’s

[plain vine]

Very cool, Guess I should've paid more attention to that classic Shecter abalone binding lol.

[open fjord]

Your welcome!

[lyric bobcat]

what is a good interface for a intermediate player?

im looking to buy one but i have no idea which one i should buy and i dont want to waste my money

[plain vine]

Either a scarlett solo or scarlett 2i2 (both can be either 3rd or 4th gen)

They’re most popular for a reason (that being they’re good and don’t cost alot)… there’s probably better options out there but you can’t go wrong wrong with either of those

[lethal fractal]

The two just listed are the best overall plus lots of knowledge out there on how to use them because of that.

Make sure you get the right ASIO software for whatever interface you end up getting

[graceful socket]

Anyone got experience with Harley Benton? Been thinking about scoring a cheap and easy 8 string but not flush my money down the drain

[toxic wharf]

For the price quite decent, but its still a cheap guitar.

[open fjord]

If you really want the most bang for your buck, I agree with YoThePro, go with a Focusrite Scarlett Solo or 2i2, be it Gen 3 or Gen 4.

Another REALLY good one is the SSL2+. You can get em for relatively similar prices. Take a look at both and see which one you like more. Good luck!

[serene pine]

what good drop D songs are there for a mid tier guitarist to try and do a cover of

wanna start doing covers but don't have the strings to droptune and have it sound good in recording lol

[toxic wharf]

Creed

[wind mauve]

any 6 string trivium song

i recommend Rain

[serene pine]

grazie

[plain vine]

Laid to rest by Lamb of god... So fun to play and I reckon is intermediate skill. If you haven't done pinch harmonics before, it's also a good one to start learning how to do them.

[lethal fractal]

Everlong

[open fjord]

Tool - The Pot, Sober, 46 & 2

Foo Fighters - Everlong

Alter Bridge - Ghosts of Days Gone By (kind of a weird D tuning)

Projected Twin - How She Makes Me

[lethal fractal]

First song I ever learned

[open fjord]

There's been a few guitarists that have helped my playing massively.

Pete Loeffler - Chevelle

Clint Lowery - Sevendust, Ex-Dark New Day

Adam Jones - Tool

Shaun Holton - Projected Twin, Solar Soma, Southern Empire

Rabea Massaad - Ex-Dorje, Ex-Toska, The Totemist, Vower,

Mark Tremonti - Creed, Alter Bridge, Tremonti

Jun Senoue - Crush 40

[serene pine]

Thanks guys

[plain vine]

3D Printed?

[tribal vigil]

Yes

[plain vine]

Very cool. I take it's also quite light...

[tribal vigil]

Nooooo

Not in the slightest

I gave it a beefier infill to help strengthen it

[plain vine]

Interesting

[indigo grove]

I just got a sterling, 7 string jp70 guutar

[gritty garden]

Gonna be the asshole and say get a Rockerverb Mk 3, and an Orange 2x12

[lethal fractal]

[azure flame]

anyone familiar with the angel vivaldi charvel 7 string signature?

[heavy hazel]

Just bought a Jackson js22 and I’m gonna try and learn guitar

[lethal fractal]

Sorta, never touched one but looked into them plenty

[fierce jackal]

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/jackson-dinky-arch-top-js22-7-dka-ht-electric-guitar/l37672000001000

i need this

[inner bone]

Why does my whammy pedal sound like this?

[crisp swan]

is sleep token the summoning in double drop D#?

Because it sounds much lower than normal D#

or is it because it's just a 7/8 string

[serene pine]

8 string drop D#

[crisp swan]

is it the string gauges that make it sound heavier then?

[serene pine]

it's the mix

[crisp swan]

fair

[serene pine]

and it dounds double tracked

and obviously the bass underneath that

[graceful socket]

D#1 I think

At least it sounds right to my ears, it's what most covers use and gives IV a reason to have his 30" guitar other than it being ridiculous and fun

[vocal hearth]

I tryed making the old school blues sound drop a# and heavy

What should I add?

The riff is simple but I think it works fine

[vocal hearth]

Idk, edit your tone

[lethal fractal]

[finite mantle]

got a question about guitar tabs, can anyone help?

[serene pine]

sure

[finite mantle]

what is this and how do i do it

[serene pine]

https://www.fender.com/articles/techniques/master-hammer-ons-and-pull-offs#:~:text=A pull-off is basically,pulled off a pull-off.

[finite mantle]

thats either a hammer on or a pull off?

i tried both but doesnt quite sound right

[serene pine]

hammer on then pull off

send the tab

looks like songsterr

[finite mantle]

it is yes

[serene pine]

send it

[finite mantle]

https://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/opeth-ending-credits-tab-s49511t0/r477672

acoustic

[serene pine]

ok

pick the first note, hammer onto the second note and pull off again to the first note

you should only pick the string once

and obviously do it to thr right rythm

[finite mantle]

wait

pick 4, hammer on 5, pull of so it goes back to 4?

[serene pine]

yes exactly

[finite mantle]

lemme try

alr i think that works

[serene pine]

cool

[finite mantle]

thanks

[serene pine]

np

[lethal fractal]

Yummy legato

[short basalt]

And this is why I own a tab book

Because without looking at the book

I would have no idea what the fuck that means

[finite mantle]

💀 thats fair yeah

[short basalt]

And im still bad at reading tab

[serene pine]

it takes time

[lethal fractal]

Pulls out sheet music

It's nice my school has a classical guitar class helpful for reading sheet music

[serene pine]

Polytune 3 or TU-3 I can't decide there's so many mixed opinions

i'm leaning towards polytune because I feel like durability shouldn't be too much of an issuer because I don't slam my foot into the switches

why is there so many polytunes what one do I get 😭

[toxic wharf]

Makes no difference. Both are fine options

[serene pine]

ive chosen polytune for the visibility and the ability to tune all the strings at once which'll be good for my floyd

[short basalt]

Ok so trying to play the baseline from my favorite video game, and I’m stupid at tab what do these symbols mean? I know 0 but I don’t get anything else I’m new

[severe flume]

Hey anyone got a full tab transcription for 4 string bass from Mac Miller's tiny desk performance of What's The Use?

[lethal fractal]

The squiggle is a quarter rest, the rectangle is a half rest (if it was the other way around it would be a whole rest), the line with dot in the 4th bar is an eighth rest, 4/4 is the time signature the line that goes from the zero to the line is just a tie so let the note contine to play until the next beat...

[short basalt]

Ok so it’s just zero, let it ring zero zero let it ring?

Thankyou

[lethal fractal]

yea and then just dont play where the other beats are

only on the 0s

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/55kDm0M6OQE?si=wbOhEt7rq1u4CIsB

[crisp swan]

I play since october last year and I would say I am decent at techniques and everything. But the biggest thing that is holding me back from learning full songs is being able to play well to a metronome. If it's just 0s I can play 4th-8th until 180+ bpm but as soon as it comes to adding notes I have to play agonisingly slow, are there any workouts that you could recommend?

[balmy vortex]

New arrival for the store, nerds

[toxic wharf]

Hehe, keep practicing with a metronome. A comfortable speed isnt fast but also not too slow. Eventually its about internalizing the click and feel the on and offbeats

[crisp swan]

I mostly have the onbeats

[toxic wharf]

You are struggling now, but it seems like you are properly practicing so you are doing nothing wrong here

[crisp swan]

but if it's an easy chorus without many note changes I can still do it well to the click, on and offbeats

[toxic wharf]

Ok yes you have to practice off beats as well

[toxic wharf]

So your problem seems to be in the fretting hand

Or at least coordination between the 2 hands?

[crisp swan]

wait let me give two examples

this is from slipknot AOV

This I can do well to the click + the offbeats

but this, typical metalcore "in dying days"

I find impossible to do it well to a click

[toxic wharf]

Hmm they are straight 8th notes

[crisp swan]

when every beat/offbeat is switching a note I struggle

I might misunderstood what offbeat is so

[toxic wharf]

Theres the same space between each not3

[crisp swan]

I mean like the note where you don't hear the click

[toxic wharf]

So off beat is the notes between the clicks basically

[crisp swan]

yea

[toxic wharf]

Yeah

Haha

Maybe you are struggling with the speed?

[crisp swan]

but yeah, whenever I have to switch notes a lot my brain doesn't pay attention to the click anymore

I even put it at 50 bpm

[toxic wharf]

Ah yes

You have to just built muscle memory first

50 is too low

80 bpm or even 90 bpm is perfect for practicing this stuff and getting it consistent

50 bpm is harder than faster tempos

[crisp swan]

fair

Do you maybe have any songs to recommend to practice more of this

[toxic wharf]

Not necessarily songs. I think exercises are better

In which you play to a click and interchange 4th notes with 8th notes and 16th notes

Once you get that down only accent the off beat

And dont play the 'onbeat'

These kind of exercises really help

[crisp swan]

I can already that

[toxic wharf]

To a click?

Than I dont really know why playing the stuff shown is difficult for you except perhaps the tempo

Which is normal in the beginning of learning a new song

[toxic wharf]

Do you alternate or downpick this?

[crisp swan]

Down

[toxic wharf]

Oke yeah Id do the same

But its the same note groupings as the other example

[balmy vortex]

As blood runs black is deathcore?

[toxic wharf]

Equal 8th notes apart

[crisp swan]

Didn't know

[balmy vortex]

Especially their first album lol

[balmy vortex]

Rabea sig

[lethal fractal]

Yum

[balmy vortex]

indeed

[toxic wharf]

Yo man, a few weeks ago you spoke about your EP coming out. When you finally gonna share something?

[lethal fractal]

Once the EP is done I'll be sharing it.
Time-lines on that don't have one set as it's just something fun to work on as I work on other projects for other bands over my solo stuff.

[crisp swan]

Could someone please help me put this well to a metronome? it's messing with my head rn

it's in 4/4

the 4th note is it the duration of a click but in between the clicks

[balmy vortex]

3 8th notes into a dotted half note to 3 8th notes?

[crisp swan]

it's not dotted

it's for the pinch harmonic

[balmy vortex]

Then the count doesn’t seem to add up to 4/4

[crisp swan]

exactly my point

[balmy vortex]

So it’s 10/8? Or something

[crisp swan]

same symbol so it's for sure not dotted

https://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/slipknot-dead-memories-tab-s22111
starting at bar 34

[crisp swan]

I think it does count well but it's just a weird placement

[balmy vortex]

It’s not

It’s a 4th note not a half note

[crisp swan]

4th note is just two 8th notes no? 6 + 2 = 8

[balmy vortex]

Yep

So it is right to 4/4

[burnt quest]

They release Randy Rhodes signature distortion pedal

[balmy vortex]

i know, we sold 8 of them in a day and we should've gotten more

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/CHCSwHoXwkc?si=cjYggdZaUUyOTaB1

[lethal fractal]

I like my combo never used any of their "proper" amps. Although it's a bit of a dark sounding amp

[hoary vector]

Kemper

[outer stone]

do i play the 7 like 12 on the previous string cause there is no way i can do that

[toxic wharf]

Which song is it @outer stone?

Time signature is bollocks as well

[outer stone]

its dance of eternity

ofc

crazy song

[toxic wharf]

Bad tab

[outer stone]

oh thank god

i dont know how anyone would play it like that

[toxic wharf]

Also why write it as 5/16

Its probably 15/16

One 16th note less than a regular 4/4

[outer stone]

i dont think its 15/16

the time signature is correct i think

[toxic wharf]

Theres no 3 measures of 5/16?

[outer stone]

wait ill send you the whole part

[toxic wharf]

I mean, you can divide it as such but I doubt its written as such

[outer stone]

gimme a second

[toxic wharf]

So 12/16 would make more sense probably, but the tab seems wrong either way

No matter how good Petrucci thats nonsense

You can leave out the 17th fret

[outer stone]

yea it is nonsense

im guessing i could leave out the 17

yes

[toxic wharf]

Yes

Its just another octave

[outer stone]

yea there is just no way

btw it is 5/16 and 7/16

i saw the official time signature they used

there is a video of mike counting it

[toxic wharf]

Ok no clue why they spell it out like that

Perhaps Meshuggah ruined my mind. I would just look in the song where it adds up to 4/4

And than say its just 4/4 even tho it takes 32 bars

[outer stone]

yea they say its 4/4 cause tomas plays the crash in 4/4

and then the snare comes also in like beat 3 or wherever

[silver pewter]

guys anyone ever used kammerton to tune?

[balmy vortex]

A what?

[silver pewter]

Point taken

[lethal fractal]

Means concert pitch I believe lol

[lethal fractal]

Not sure what you mean by that to tune... concert pitch is just what A is equal to, often used in orchestral performances to tune depending on the time period of the music concert pitch can change.

What you are asking doesn't really make any sense.
Technically no matter what you tune to that would be your concert pitch...

Most common western modern tunings are A=440 though so that's what most people tune to

[verbal pumice]

May I ask a question for all the bassists here?

What brand of amps do you guys use on gigs and at home?

[balmy vortex]

Dark glass all the way for me

[crisp swan]

For doing legato on 3 notes with whole step in between, what fingers do you prefer

say, 12p10p8h10h12

[toxic wharf]

Higher up fretboard I tend to use my pointy, ring and pinky

Lower pointy, middle and pinky

[toxic wharf]

oh nice

[hoary vector]

is the plek option worth it in sweetwater

im about to order ibanez rgixl7 and later ibanez rg8520 j custom

[toxic wharf]

Dying to get my hands on a gio 🙏

[tardy glacier]

Im currently using 10-52 strings on my 24.75″ (628mm) guitar for drop B and its bit too floppy, im thinking about either 11-56 or 12-56 strings, im simply not sure about the higher string gauges, would the jump from 10 to 11's be barely noticable, im guessing, so 12s would be better?

[lethal fractal]

11-56 is a bit light still 12-56 is around the sweet spot tension zone for that tuning on that scale length

You can always try both see what you prefer

[toxic wharf]

You have mixed sets. Light top heavy bottom

11's are fine for the high E imo but you do need something closer to 56 indeed

For drop B you dont need 12's per se.

[tardy glacier]

yeah, im fairly sure 56 is the sweet gauge for lower strings but im just going back and forth thinking about either 12s or 11s, as I also sometimes play drop C and drop D and even drop A# (the pain of owning a single decent guitar)

[toxic wharf]

Higher strings are a bit up to taste

I especially because its a low tuning but also not 'too' low to get specifically need a very heavy set

[lethal fractal]

He said drop B I'm thinking it's a 6 string tuned to C standard then to drop B?
Could be very wrong though I am literally getting my eyes checked in 2 minutes

[toxic wharf]

Yea

C standard + low B

Basically Mastodon tuning

[tardy glacier]

B F# B E G# C#

[toxic wharf]

Yep

[tardy glacier]

🤝

[tardy glacier]

yea

11s would probably be decent for that job

especially regarding the fact i might sometimes go up or down 1 step

[toxic wharf]

Yeah theyd be fine

[tardy glacier]

cheers man!

[toxic wharf]

It does feel a bit more slinky, but you are not chugging on your high e

[tardy glacier]

yea

mainly bending or playing solos or dissonance lol

[toxic wharf]

Yeah for solos a bit slinky is even nice

[tardy glacier]

it actually makes it easier to ring out with hammer ons, legato, tapping etc

just gotta make sure its not that slinky that it buzzes from 1st fret lol

[toxic wharf]

Or that it gets out of tune by fretting it because its get bend with the slightest touch

I once drop tuned to drop A with 10's and it gets a bit icky

[tardy glacier]

Oh yeah i once did the same with 11-49s, it was absolutely disgusting

And then tried out drop G# as well with the samw gauge 💀💀

And if 11s dont work ghat well on B then i cans simply go for 12s no issue

[lethal fractal]

I'm currently trying 10-46 for E standard (mostly to fix my neck bowing issue) I don't know why I've always liked heavier gauges

[tardy glacier]

I mean heavier are way nicer for those fat chugs and gallops

But 10-46 on e standard is kind of the perfect one probably for thst tuning

Maybe even smth like 10-49 if these types of sets are made

[lethal fractal]

You can get them made

[tardy glacier]

As ik james hetfield uses 11-49 i think

[tardy glacier]

Yea

[lethal fractal]

I even like them for bending I find tighter strings feel like they bend faster and more stable but could just be me tripping

[tardy glacier]

Orobably more accurately and way more stable yeah but im p sure lighter ones bend way mpre easily and faster ofc

[toxic wharf]

Lighter strings are harder to control while bending

But if you can, you have more and faster bending options available

I have to think about Vai and Bonamassa that use a lot microbends but also bend huge intervals

[lethal fractal]

Yea, I jump between them and I have different guitars setup heavy and light depending on my needs.
I'm just waiting to buy a new neck so my string height doesn't need to be 2.5mm 0_0

I want to try to do some sort of humidity treatment on my current neck to bend it back to something good but don't have the gear to try and do that.

[modest ravine]

this was my first electric guitar

loved it

[vital carbon]

can anyone ID this guitar

[lethal fractal]

Anderson Cobra T

Obviously with special specs

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/3mzDPF5230M?si=N2iq73kDOzgl_761

My ears have stopped working

[silver pewter]

I was just wondering what did musicians of 20xx century use, before tuners we know were invented. I mean there's piano, but piano is an acoustic instrument that has an ability to detune. Guitar and bass can be tuned by Octaves, but only if there's at least one string in tune, so we have to have something, that never detunes - kammerton
Am i still wrong somewhere?

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/3UxBMX7L6OY?si=vS1rQ2HeeBQF6GGP

[lethal fractal]

People mostly used tuning forks to tune using relative pitch before our tuners.

What did people tune to before tuning forks and all of that. They just tuned to their instrument and those around them using relative pitch.

Concert pitch after 1939 is just that A above middle C is equal to 440Hz which is now just referred to as concert pitch.
Before that tuning was make sound and have a pitch everything tunes relative to that pitch.

Still in many cultures tuning is just relative to everyone around them and they don't follow a 12 tone scale which to many western listeners sounds awful because of the harmonic structure tending to have a lot of tension and harmonies that don't fit what we have always heard.

[silver pewter]

The tuning fork is called kammerton. That's the thing i meant the first time

Turns out i took a right guess

[lethal fractal]

Can we get any of the Germans to translate "Kámmerton" to English please.

My German isn't great but it doesn't translate to tuning fork right and more to like chamber tone which was close enough to concert pitch.

[lethal fractal]

I'm 99% sure that tuning fork is called Stimmgabel

[silver pewter]

That's a synonym. In russian the word for it is "kammerton" (idk why, maybe it's because of prussian influence)

[silver pewter]

Russian google doesn't see any difference between stimmgabel and kammerton

[lethal fractal]

Russian?

[lethal fractal]

The Russian word for tunning fork is камертона which in rough translation into English pronunciation is like... kamertona.

[wind mauve]

that’s not German

[lethal fractal]

It is... It's also definitely not Russian.

This is all German

I typed the a wrong...

[short basalt]

I have a possible project for any bored guitarists that might take like 10-30 minutes

[lethal fractal]

What is it?

[short basalt]

Could you possibly turn this into a metal riff? Take a few liberties if you need just wondering

[lethal fractal]

What genre?

[lethal fractal]

That rythm is already pretty bouncy fun djent type thing but it can be smoothened out for something else...

[short basalt]

I like the idea of that bouncy djent type thing because when my friend made the original song it was super bouncy light pop

[lethal fractal]

Cool, well once I'm home I can take a look care if I DM you as well?

[short basalt]

I don’t mind

[lethal fractal]

Do you want to keep it in Gb major?

[short basalt]

Tuning can go to whatever, but preferably somewhat close

[lethal fractal]

I'll keep the key as is then.

[hoary vector]

Which j custom should I get

[lethal fractal]

Blue

[open fjord]

Def the blue.

[balmy vortex]

green

[wind mauve]

if i knew how to read

no chance that could be converted into tabs?

[short basalt]

I’ll see

[lethal fractal]

Super easily

[plain vine]

I lean more with the green just because I'm more used to the electronics (2 humbuckers with option to split coils). Colours look great on both guitars but sometimes they can look slightly different in person so I'm wondering how light/dark that green would be (I like how dark it looks in the photo).

[hoary vector]

Yea alot of people I have asked said they prefer the Green so it might be the one

It's pretty unique in the 3 way switch and split coil switch

[lethal fractal]

I much prefer HSH config but the two humbucker with the split is still very nice

[toxic wharf]

Prefer HSH as well

[lethal fractal]

@short basalt Here is an idea for that thing let me know if this fits what you are looking for or not...

[lethal fractal]

With the bass to just bridge the gap.

[odd coyote]

Any1 know what guitars Sylosis use?

[lethal fractal]

Esp, mayo, LTD I bet others...

[balmy vortex]

ESP/LTD and Jackson

[balmy vortex]

Mayo is for the other architects guitarist. And Josh ain’t apart of architects anymore

[balmy vortex]

Josh mainly tours with his Ltd signature and Alex plays mainly his Jackson Mick Thomson signature

[odd coyote]

Ty ty

I’ve seen em use a Gibson too in the video for Teras walkthrough

[balmy vortex]

That was from before Josh signed with esp

[odd coyote]

I see

[balmy vortex]

Their current line up is esp and Jackson’s

Fishman moderns and Mick Thomson Blackouts

[lethal fractal]

Ah...

[toxic wharf]

Finally got the ol girl restringed

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/E7qHqFLfYnU?si=hq1DO0TLBhuzk-rR

[toxic wharf]

Pretty nice tone for that tune.

[gritty warren]

https://youtu.be/gHg-vqfb57w?si=jj9Mrskl0LEUWu7H

my hybrid kemper rig

[crisp swan]

Does anyone have any suggestions for 7-string humbucker pickups?
I have a factory set that just doesn't get the chunk than I'd like as my 6-string with the same amp settings

[cobalt sable]

Fishman fluence modern

[crisp swan]

Is there a difference between ceramic or metal

[wind mauve]

do you want active or passive

[crisp swan]

What's the difference

except the battery

[wind mauve]

what does your guitar have rn

if you know

if you don’t just tell me the guitar model and I’ll find out for you

[crisp swan]

passive

Fazley Modern Series F7S Transparent Purple is my guitar @wind mauve

[wind mauve]

could I make an alternative suggestion

[crisp swan]

Sure

[wind mauve]

don’t worry about upgrading this guitar

just keep playing it and saving your money

[crisp swan]

I'm most likely gonna exchange it actually

I still can until the 10th

[wind mauve]

a $300 pickup set in a $200 guitar isn’t gonna be a good investment

[crisp swan]

^

[wind mauve]

exchange it for what exactly

[crisp swan]

I like Ibanez guitars a lot so I'm gonna search for one around €400-500

[wind mauve]

excellent plan

stick with that

[crisp swan]

Any recommendations for 7-strings

[wind mauve]

any Ibanez in that range will be good

try and avoid Gios they’re around the same level as your current guitar

i.e. not bad but not good

I personally play a Jackson but it’s a bit more expensive

[crisp swan]

as in pickups, etc?

[wind mauve]

oh my bad

misinterpreted

the fishmans as mentioned above are very good however active pickups will require a battery slot

some wiring

[crisp swan]

I was literally just looking at Ibanez GRG7221 Gio Black Flat

[wind mauve]

could be more money than you expect

ye like

gios are fine

but they’re a budget guitar and you’re trying to upgrade your budget guitar

anyways fishmans are also what just about everyone uses so yeah they have that modern metalcore sound

[crisp swan]

Ibanez RGA42EX black aurora is my 6-string

And those pickups are really nice

[wind mauve]

and I myself do want a pair of Matt heafy sigs

but you also can’t go wrong with Seymour Duncan

their Blackouts are in some respects better than the Fishmans

and I do want a pair of Corey Beaulieu sigs

still active tho

for passive pickups I recommend Bare Knuckle, DiMarzio, and Seymour Duncan again

[crisp swan]

Is Quantum a brand of pickups

or is it like a model

[lethal fractal]

Mmm bareknucklepickups

[crisp swan]

this one also has passive pickups

[wind mauve]

dunno, google it

[wind mauve]

don’t eat the pickups

[crisp swan]

It's by Ibanez

[wind mauve]

hm

[crisp swan]

Ibanez Quantum Humbucker

I'm going to go for the Ibanez RGA742FM Transparent Gray Flat

:D

It looks awesome

[toxic wharf]

Guys
Do any of you have an 8 string Harley Benton? How do you like it?

[lethal fractal]

No and I love it

[icy briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZbRzpl7ioM

this qualifies as bass right

also here's the original riff, every instrument is programmed

[limpid sorrel]

Hey all, I’m looking at learning the guitar but I need help figuring out which bits of kit I need, I’ve tried google but it’s about as useful as asking a wall. Would anyone be willing to spare 10 or so minutes to give a hand?

[lethal fractal]

You will need to first choose what kind of guitar you want to learn.
If you want to learn acoustic or classical then you have to buy one.

If you are looking for electric guitar, you will need to buy one of those then an amplifier and a guitar cable with some guitar picks.

[limpid sorrel]

Yeah I’ve chosen out an electric guitar with all the extra accessories, I was wondering what specific bits of kit I’d need to play the audio through my pc into my headphones as opposed to a speaker

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/EUQZRBTrG6E?si=0pWSyy9hJulpC6vo

[lethal fractal]

Just need an audio interface and amp plugins, I'd recommend scarlett 2i2 3rd/4th generation both are will do whatever you will throw at them. For the plugins nueral dsp is generally the biggest name but they aren't free.
There are others out there that are free and still solid.

[limpid sorrel]

What do you mean by the plugins? Can you link me an example?

[lethal fractal]

https://neuraldsp.com/plugins?srsltid=AfmBOop5IOr0WhCznzXjX7V7IaRHX_tFGk2S2De7LAJWLNlwyZ9-Rzns

[limpid sorrel]

I need one of those to play through my computer?

[lethal fractal]

There are other ways and some specific amps you can run into a interface but I've never done it myself.

What 90% of guitarist that play through a computer use are plugins though.

What amp do you currently have?
If you are looking to play through headphones your amp may already allow for that

[limpid sorrel]

I don’t currently have any of the gear

All I’m currently looking for is the bare minimum to play through my pc and expand from there

Would the Scarlett 2i2 not be enough to get that working?

[lethal fractal]

You will need the interface and a plugin.
If your headphone jack is 1/8th then you will need a 1/4 adapter, and just need a guitar cable to be able to plug into the interface

[limpid sorrel]

Right I’ll look into getting some, thanks a lot for the info ❤️

[lethal fractal]

No worries, as well there are a few free plugins as well.
Plenty of reviews on YouTube

[limpid sorrel]

Do you have any links to the free ones?

[open fjord]

https://ml-sound-lab.com/products/amped-roots

[lethal fractal]

Beat me too it lmao just copied the link

[open fjord]

Lol

[open fjord]

https://www.stltones.com/products/stl-ignite-emissary-plug-in-bundle?srsltid=AfmBOoocYcNDjssEkYhnWcy_gkSRvzzgKvHDZP4c3xEAbs7NiqugLGBN

[open fjord]

I'd share the Nalex stuff but it's gone.

The blog ain't there anymore.

[limpid sorrel]

Which is the better one?

[lethal fractal]

That's up to you and what you will do with them

What genres are you planning to play?

Why not try both see what you end up liking the most.

[open fjord]

What Conic said. Though if you want an all in one thing without the need for an external IR loader (which thankfully the Emissary will give you when you DL it) including built in fx, Amped Roots is the way to go, though the quality of the FX are mid.

If you don't care about all that and prefer to use the FX in your DAW and load up an external loader then Emissary is the way to go.

Tone wise it's a coin flip.

[limpid sorrel]

So I’ve downloaded emissary and it’s saying to restart my favourite AAX/AU/VST/VST3 host, what would that be?

[open fjord]

That would be your DAW.

What do you use?

[limpid sorrel]

Oh yeah right sorry you missed the earlier conversation, so I’m new, looking to get the basic gear to run a guitars audio through my pc rather than a speaker

So currently I don’t have any of the gear, I have the Scarlett 3rd gen and that emissary so far

[open fjord]

Well you need a DAW to load the Emissary in. I would suggest Reaper since it's free.

[lethal fractal]

Do they not have standalone?

[open fjord]

I don't believe Emissary has a standalone.

[lethal fractal]

[lethal fractal]

This^

[limpid sorrel]

Reapers no longer free, but I can always buy it, would you say it’s worth it?

Or would you recommend something else now it costs

[lethal fractal]

It's free, you can download it you don't need to pay

It offers for you to buy it but you don't need to...

[open fjord]

Yeah.

Reaper sort of acts like WinRAR

But for DAWs.

[limpid sorrel]

Right I’ll download it now

Sorry if I’m being dumb asf with this, it’s so daunting with there being so much stuff

[open fjord]

Reaper allows you to customize it too to your liking.

[lethal fractal]

It is definitely at first I think many of us felt the same way

[open fjord]

Trust me, when I first started like 5 years ago, I was scared shitless cuz I had no idea what I was doing. Nobody taught me how to do shit. I had watch videos to learn because I wasn't in a discord server with anyone knowledgeable on the subject.

[limpid sorrel]

Yeah I was going to try soloing it but google was driving me insane, so I thought Niks community has always seemed good, glad you guys can help me out

Anyways, I’ve got reaper installed now

So are the only things I need to buy the focusrite Scarlett and the jack wires/adapters?

[open fjord]

Most Scarletts are USB powered from your computer so you don't gotta worry. Just need the cable to connect to the computer. As well as a 1/4 inch cable to plug your guitar into the interface.

[limpid sorrel]

Oh right that’s great then

So I don’t really need to worry about anything else until the guitars/equipment has arrived

[open fjord]

Pretty much.

If you don't like the Emissary that's fine because ML has a standalone.

You can actually get fancy like me and plug in an expression pedal like a wah or volume pedal in front of the interface.

Just plug the guitar into the pedal then the pedal into the interface. The only reason I have real pedals was due to my time in a band lol.

[limpid sorrel]

I don’t think I’m quite ready for fancy stuff

I do appreciate all the help though

I’ll get this stuff sorted and probably get back to you

Thanks for all of this ❤️

[limpid sorrel]

This is correct, right?

[open fjord]

No no no. You can use a standard guitar cable.

Sorry my production brain kicked in XD

[limpid sorrel]

I’m confused now

[open fjord]

That's a quarter inch to XLR cable.

[limpid sorrel]

Treat me like an idiot, it’ll be easier xD

[open fjord]

Basically it's a guitar cable one end, and a microphone cable on the other.

You want something like this.

[limpid sorrel]

Right got one

So that’ll connect the guitar to whatever the Scarlett thing is?

[open fjord]

Yessiiirrr

[limpid sorrel]

Brilliant, thank you

[open fjord]

Np :3

Also we got METAL GUITAR NEWS let's do it.

https://youtu.be/H2dgpBVyX08?si=8jm3DAnUHe5Hdj_O

[limpid sorrel]

God don’t get me looking at more guitars Ive suffered enough trauma for today

[open fjord]

Lol what did you get?

[limpid sorrel]

https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Ibanez-GRG170DX-GIO-Black-Night/29YG

I went with this one

[open fjord]

Not bad. I personally wouldn't go with a GIO but hey for a cheap guitar you could do worse.

[limpid sorrel]

It's just one to learn on, once I'm deep in it down the line I'll probably make a much worse financial decision xD

[open fjord]

My concern is if it's comfortable for you. GIOs have a.....reputation

[limpid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/to-live-is-to-suffer-dmx-earl-simmons-slippin-song-suffering-is-part-of-living-gif-21700790

[open fjord]

Hey man I'm just lookin out for ya.

If you don't like the guitar I have a few suggestions for ye.

[limpid sorrel]

Well the guitar comes with a 30 day money back guarentee provided i don't annihilate it

So if it's not to my liking I can always send it back and get some recommendations

[lethal fractal]

Aristides guitars have entered the chat

[limpid sorrel]

Thanks anyways guys, it is appreciated ^^

[eager raptor]

im just playing around so dont mind the bad playing but can anyone tell me how to make this tone better, if it helps im using a custom preset on archetype gojira.

[lethal fractal]

What guitar are you using? What do you want the tone to be like?

[eager raptor]

using an epiphone les paul. Im looking for a tone that is a mix of post hardcore bands of the early 2000s and Chevelle's Sci-FI Crimes. Its hard to hear the higher strings for some reason. My main issue is that the tone hurts my ears for some reason and im not sure why

for some reason my fourth stringhas always sounded funky

[tame frigate]

Is A# G C F A D a real tuning?

[eager raptor]

any tuning is a real tuning if you try hard enough.

[icy briar]

It's an interesting one for sure

[icy briar]

I use C# G# C# F# A on this shi

[swift matrix]

First 8 string. Just picked her up a day ago

[graceful socket]

What a beauty

[swift matrix]

Thanks!

[crisp swan]

awesome!!

[swift matrix]

Probably picking up a 5150 today to go with her

[crisp swan]

I ordered an Ibanez RGA742FM Transparent Gray Flat 7-string today. Can't wait to play it

[swift matrix]

Hell yeah! Those are sick!

[graceful socket]

I'll say it again and again, there's nothing better than a 7 string

[graceful socket]

Have fun with it dude!

[lethal fractal]

I'm trying to decide if I want my 7 string to have an evertune or a trem.
I like doing trem effects but I don't think I'd use them on the 7th string and I can just use my modded strat for all my trem work.
As well for live shows I think the evertune is just going to be the best.

[graceful socket]

I'd argue that depends a lot on your style. I never use nor wish I had a trem, but then there's people like Adam DeMicco who couldnt play a single song without one so yeah.

Depends on what you wanna play live I guess and what you're writing

[lethal fractal]

Prog metal stuff.
I use my trem often but I think anything that needs a trem I can just use my strat...

I use my trem for probably 35-40% of my writing I like flutters and just light stuff...

[swift matrix]

5150 acquired

[graceful socket]

That's quite a lot if you ask me, but that's only a decision you can make. If you think you can handle only having the 6 and not needing it on the 7 that's good, but ultimately you know best what you want/need

[lethal fractal]

As in 40% of my songs use a trem not my playing haha

[graceful socket]

Oh okay, that's quite a different thing then

[lethal fractal]

Ya lol

[wind mauve]

real

[visual tree]

serious question here. im new to this whole amp modeling concept. does anyone in here have a line 6 HX and mind showing a noob how to dial it?

[tame frigate]

please ping when replying

and is it viable?

[icy briar]

I didn’t feel like I had a lot to add to the conversation, not much of an expert on guitars yk

[icy briar]

Probably, especially for proggier stuff

Power chords/tritones are gonna be weird to play

[tame frigate]

i thought powere chords would be same as a regular standard tuning

unless im usiong the wrong tuning

[tame frigate]

can i use it in grindcore?

[icy briar]

Power chords (on two strings) are p much two notes 5 whole tones apart, e.g A# F

Standard tunings start at 4 whole tones apart

So pretty much if you drop the first string from standard by a whole tone you can play power chords with one finger, which is the idea of drop d/other drop tunings

[tame frigate]

an

ah

i see where i went wrong

[icy briar]

Probably would sound interesting, maybe not perfect if you wanna play basic grindcore tho

As I said it’s very prog

[tame frigate]

hm

alright

ill stay n drop c for nwo

[plain vine]

Very cool. I got the white one 15w (:

[plain vine]

What is that guitar. It looks sick 😱

[swift matrix]

It’s a Legator

[swift matrix]

The white one looks so sick!

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/YqgDIFq5h24?si=lyyceo69DZz2NaJi

[toxic wharf]

Sup guys
I'm searching for orchestral,piano and synth vst plugins
Do you have any recommendations?

[graceful socket]

check out Spitfire Labs, they´ve got a shit ton of pretty much anything. Though a fair bit is paywalled, there´s a good few nice ones for free iirc

[harsh fern]

hey guys, is cubase 13 pro worth getting on this 50% sale?
cuz im rly torn between buying that or airpods pro 2 ,w, and in incredibly indecisive

[lethal fractal]

Will you use it and is it better then what you have for your application?

[harsh fern]

i will definately use it, cuz atm i have ableton live lite

which is very limiting

only 8 tracks

[lethal fractal]

If you will be using it get it and do yourself and favor and get something better then airpods latter down the line

[harsh fern]

i mean i wont use them on my pc

but rahter my phone

on my pc i have the DT 770 pros

and studio monitors

the airpods would juist be for day to day use

when im omw to work and stuff likethat

but i think ill get that next month

[lethal fractal]

I'd recommend something better for EDC still but if you want them get them.

[harsh fern]

if you have recomandations i am welcoming any :3

but

im getting cubase rn

isnt that the daw that nik uses?

[wind mauve]

what’s wrong with AirPods for everyday use?

if it’s just for having music in like

if it fits in your ear and won’t fall out then it works

[harsh fern]

yeah thats rly the only thing i need it for, cuz taking a busy bus everyday at least twice without music is a torment i dont wish upon anyone

XD

cubase 13 pro has been added to the inventory

[lethal fractal]

They are just expensive for the quality you are getting, often can spend less and get the same quality...
They are fine just think there are better options for the same price or the same for less.

[lethal fractal]

After school I can share other options if you want to compare.

[harsh fern]

sure :3

[toxic wharf]

Its a good DAW but for a fraction of the price you can get Studio One 6 pro

Cubase is a bit too oldschool and when it comes to workflow amd organization of screen clutter Studio One is way better imo. I also like Ableton

[lethal fractal]

You got me hooked on studio one... Definitely my favorite out of the ones I had tried.

[hoary vector]

Anyone tried the axe fx 3. I been eyeing it alot I have kemper but the axe fx is very tempting

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, it has some great vst's included, but the interface is what truly makes it a gem imo. With many DAWs the screen clutter stresses me out

[balmy vortex]

axe fx is a ton better than the kemper imo.

a lot goes on in there but boi does it sound better

also the only modeller that can do volume swells actually well

[hoary vector]

Yea that's why I been interested you can really go in depth with ur tone. And also it has mesa mark amps that I like and it seems to respond similar to one. I like the mark 5 and 2c+

[zealous birch]

2+ºC -> 35.6ºF

[hoary vector]

Is there a difference between fm3 and axe fx 3. I know one would be the cpu space which I do not know if fm3 has enough space or not.

[grand idol]

New guitar

[wind mauve]

does it play notes

chords even

[lethal fractal]

Nice orange color

[wind mauve]

you can really smell the orange

[final sky]

what case do ya'll recommend for a Schecter Omen Elite-8?

[lethal fractal]

1620 SGR-1C C-Shape Hardcase

[zealous birch]

-1ºC -> 30.2ºF

[lethal fractal]

Nuh uh

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/BYpJ1DOQRQQ?si=6t4sJyCTd9JJViFB

[toxic wharf]

Hella sloppy take but I’m trying to dial my AJFA tone in lol

[vocal hearth]

It can be

All tunings are made up

[plain vine]

Whoa, both those guitars look awesome. I’ve never seen a coloured, quilted fretboard like the one on that prs before. (Also, Buckethead 🙌)

[balmy vortex]

Tune the a# to an A and yes then you have a periphery tuning

[icy briar]

hot

what scale length/tuning

does it thall

[serene pine]

guys there's a school talent show in a weeks time. What should I play

lowest I can go is drop C

and i'm ass so don't gimme a hard solo

[icy briar]

acid bath - tranquilized

obv choice

[serene pine]

I said drop C but I was thinking something more standdard based 😭

D standard+

idk

I can't go too heavy either

because the people in my school are pussies

[icy briar]

fucken go for it vro

[serene pine]

bro if I started playing something hevay i'd get blank stares and i'd look like an idiot

[icy briar]

do standard tuning but with like dissonant chugs and shit

like first three strings respectively going g# a d#

fuck load of distortion

[serene pine]

at this point i should just play Counting Worms in E standard

[icy briar]

that is 5th fret, 0, 1st fret respectively

[serene pine]

yuh ik

wait

fourth fret low string

more dissonance

eaz

[icy briar]

fuck i meant 4th i don't have stringed instruments nearby and im stoned as shit

[serene pine]

real tvh

[icy briar]

but yeah this with some evil proggy djent shit in between

ez heavy

[serene pine]

fr

[lethal fractal]

Play Absolomb it's a super fun song

[serene pine]

ITS 7 MINUTES LONG I HAVE A WEEK

[lethal fractal]

A week for a single song is super doable hour or two a day and you will have it.
I got tabs if needed

[serene pine]

cheers

I wonder what the max song length is

probably not that long

[lethal fractal]

It's 4 pages long of tab so it may be a long song but a lot of repeating rythms.
For any song focus on the rythm and the feel first then worry about the notes.
Play the rythm on even just an open string and then work into the notes.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hgdfaxskbx115si05uzoe/PERIPHERY-Absolomb.pdf?rlkey=m9cowjota9cwsslilbs2yrmul&st=r0lat162&dl=0

[serene pine]

thanks

[lethal fractal]

If you want to do it, it's a groovy af song and not the typical thrash you see all the time might get a crowd really moving with it...

[serene pine]

im thinking of doing Live Wire by Motley Curue but idk

[lethal fractal]

I'd say if you had more time learn the clean vocal parts they are so good lol.

[serene pine]

i cant sing

[lethal fractal]

Ah

[lethal fractal]

Nice

I now want to listen to periphery

[serene pine]

lol

[lethal fractal]

I want to write a song with peripherys groves and Aaron Marshall's lead playing

[serene pine]

do it rthen

[lethal fractal]

Someday I'm just to damn busy.

[serene pine]

fair

[lethal fractal]

I've always liked the intro basic and fun.
Playing for a talent show is one of the best feelings

[serene pine]

im not good at playing infront of people

[lethal fractal]

Learning how to tune them out and be in the music is hard but once you do it it's the best

[serene pine]

fr

[lethal fractal]

I'm planning to write a 6/8 drum Grove under a 4/4 guitar part and have a cool polymeter going on love how they feel together

[icy briar]

Wait can you use backing tracks in that shit

@serene pine

[serene pine]

i'm assuming so

[icy briar]

If you know what song you’re doing i could cook up a backing track for ya

[serene pine]

thanks a lot man!

[icy briar]

This one I’m assuming

[serene pine]

probably

[icy briar]

Expect it in 2-3h

[serene pine]

i'm giving it a solo 💀

[hoary vector]

Does axe fx 3 not come with a foot controller already?😭

[icy briar]

attempted to get the drums, really confusing shit tbh

kinda ass but I think it will do ok for a school talent show

[serene pine]

thats awesome man

thanks a lot

[graceful socket]

Good luck dude

I'm sure you'll nail it

[wind mauve]

what drum library are you using and are you aware that krimh drums has a free version

[icy briar]

My fucken edrums in slicex lmfao

I’ll check your suggestion out later

[icy briar]

Chords

[wind mauve]

bro go get the free krimh drums lmao

treat yo self

[icy briar]

.

[wind mauve]

this isn't the krimh drums, but it's a product by the same company that uses the same engine

it just happens to be the trivium drums

so that should tell you how good their drum libraries are

[icy briar]

In my defense though this is p much as good as the samples I use can get

(All instruments programmes obv)

[wind mauve]

like granted it's not bad

it just

sounds like harm.icu and you don't always need to sound like that

[icy briar]

What’s that

[wind mauve]

what your library sounds like

https://youtu.be/5aygnniBzgM?si=OC76YnOP0lt9Z5ya

[icy briar]

Goes hard tho

[wind mauve]

it does

[graceful socket]

now tune it to Drop F and play some ERRA

[hoary vector]

I need help deciding so I recently got into the sound of an axe fx from seeing many reviews. Do I get an axe fx 3 turbo or ibanez rg8520 j custom first? I could go either way as I currently have a kemper and guitars I have ibanez az2402 amd rg genesis.

[wind mauve]

figured if I was gonna get Jazz III picks i might as well go with the Heafys

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[wind mauve]

lukewarm on them so far

[smoky widget]

My fingernails eroding after learning hybrid picking for 2 days

[lethal fractal]

Hell ya

[hoary vector]

I use the jason richardson jazz 3s in general jazz 3 goated

[plain vine]

I use Jazz 3 xl. Perfect shape and point and I like the more regular size of the xl.

[icy briar]

Strings are gonna get unbearably floppy

[wind mauve]

i feel like i'd like the XLs more too

as cool as it is to have the golden pick with the kiichi in japanese on it

[open fjord]

Ladies

Gentlemen

And my often forgotten, but certainly, not by me, bassists.

We have a new SOON from Neural.

PLACE YA BETS

[lethal fractal]

Have you tried Rabea's picks?
They are more of a regular shape but come to a point at the very end rather then more rounded.

[plain vine]

I haven't tried Rabea's picks but it looks just like a regular Dunlop flow which I do have, but I don't think i've used that much so maybe i'll give them another go. Still comes to a pint but is more round than the jazz 3.

[plain vine]

I think you get get used to the jazz 3's, I used one for a day and by the end the xl felt, for lack of better words, large. The xl is really useful if you want the jazz 3 shape without geting used the small size.

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/l6zC4K-01T8?si=dONYpaXLf83ydTld

There's also these weird things

[plain vine]

I've definitely seen that pick in a youtube video somewhere but I'm just a hobby player and I can buy a bunch of jazz 3 xl for cheap and not worry about loosing them and they work fine so I've never tried any boutique guitar picks before (those do have a picture of a dragon on them though...).

[lethal fractal]

I want to get some purple plectrums to try

[wind mauve]

my previous pick was the ernie ball prodigy 2mm

so

these are definitely a lot smaller

[swift matrix]

G.C.’s near me stopped carrying those so I thought they got discontinued. I now must order some. They’re my favorite picks

[wind mauve]

i liked them

but i have really short nails so the one advantage of the jazz iiis is that i can pinch a lot easier

[swift matrix]

Completely fair

[gloomy kindle]

Riff for a song I'm working on

[modest ravine]

very cool

[hoary vector]

I like the guitar and tone very nice

[gloomy kindle]

thanks!

[gloomy kindle]

thank you!

Thally vibes😁

[icy briar]

djent

[harsh fern]

guys!

thoughts on the nano cortex?

[harsh fern]

i wanna get it, so badly

[open fjord]

Maybe, I'm curious on the features first and how it works.

[lethal fractal]

Should be fun little thing, I don't think it's going to be as powerful so maybe not so many things going on but should be fun

[harsh fern]

i think it will

at least from watchinf the video from andrew on it

so far seems amazing

[open fjord]

So the Nano is all about captures. Basically you can dl or create or your own captures. Any and all modeling stuff is left on the bigger brother.

[harsh fern]

yeah but you can download different captures on it, and use it onboard

i think-

or am i wrong

[open fjord]

You're correct. But any of the modeling stuff the bigger QC does is now omitted.

This focuses strictly on captures. Which in my opinion is somewhat of a missed opportunity.

[graceful socket]

Okay, I've watched Baena's and Keyan Houshmand's videos and am still uncertain what exactly this does and doesnt do and I'm already irked by no one mentioning the price of the thing

[open fjord]

Andertons did a video on it and they clearly lay out what it does.

And the price.

It's €500 which is like 550 or something USD.

[graceful socket]

Gotta check out more about it before I make up my mind, I'm kind of uncertain what to think of it at this moment

[graceful socket]

Considering Neural that aint too bad at first glance

[open fjord]

It's basically a glorified Kemper without the fx blocks.

[graceful socket]

Oh, okay

[harsh fern]

around 600 euro

at least for me

[graceful socket]

As it stands it seems pretty neat but not like anything I'd desperately need. Especially not for that price

I know the price aint too exceptional given what similar things cost but anyway

[lethal fractal]

I need to look into captures and stuff more... it looks fun might get it to mess around with and gig with friends until I get the QC

[lethal fractal]

You can't use the plugins with it correct?

[open fjord]

Nope

[lethal fractal]

Alright, it probably will be neat something fun to have anyway

[harsh fern]

apparently you can do captures of plugins somehow

[lethal fractal]

Lots of ways

[harsh fern]

id love to know how, cuz id be stoaked to capture my archetype gojira stuff

[lethal fractal]

Google it a lot of videos and forums explaining it

[harsh fern]

i see

[toxic wharf]

I think I’ve got my AJFA tone dialed in, could use a tad more gain but I like it

[regal hull]

Just picked up this guy

[lethal fractal]

Enjoy

[abstract yarrow]

Anyone got good recommendations for a set of strings for a 6 string, wanting to tune it to Drop E. would i be looking at a 8 string set and disregarding the 2 higher strings?

[swift matrix]

Picked up a couple more Ibanez’s

[lethal fractal]

Ya you could do that, what's the scale length on that thing?
A few companies let you order costume Guage sets you could look into as well.

[abstract yarrow]

25.5, old jackson jinky js11

[swift matrix]

https://stringjoy.com will let you order custom gauges

[lethal fractal]

Drop E on a 25.5 is rough

Probably be looking for around a 90 Guage string for the low string

90-85

[abstract yarrow]

i mean, its held out so far but the strings are hella loose. i bellieve its a 12 to 62 guage currently? i cant really remember. normal 12 gauge strings

its been 2 years since i changed them, stopped playing for a while

[abstract yarrow]

alright i see, il defo take a look then. il prob take it to the shop because when i got my old stirngs fitted they had to shave the nut a little for the string to fit, i imagine theyd have to do something like that for the 90

[lethal fractal]

62???? Damn that's super flubby, if you like higher tension get 90s if you want typical around like 15lbs of force the 85s

[lethal fractal]

Yea, probably need to drill the tuners and shave the nut...

[abstract yarrow]

back when the lowest i tuned was drop C yeah 😂

[lethal fractal]

Ohhhh.... lmfao I thought that for Drop E I was like what. (I'm tired)

[abstract yarrow]

Oh i mean thats whats on my current guitar, ive played drop E with it. The lowest ive ever tuned is double Drop D haha, super super loose so thats why i was asking if there was suitable thicker strings

It barely holds out, tuners normally freak the fuck out. 12-60 is perfect for drop c but sorta wants to die after A imo

[lethal fractal]

Drop D down the octave on 25.5 is wild

[lethal fractal]

Ya

[abstract yarrow]

the most suprising thing is that ive never had any issues with the strings themselves. being tuned from Drop B all the way down to drop D1. even after 2 years

[lethal fractal]

As in no rust?

[abstract yarrow]

yeah that, and no strings snapping with the constant changes in tension

[lethal fractal]

The constant change shouldn't snap the strings.
No rust is unbelievable though, even if the strings are coated... Non coated strings last me about 5 days till they leave enough residue on my fingers after playing that I don't want to touch em.

You probably got the least acidic sweat and the best climate ever.

[abstract yarrow]

oh really? i was under the impression that constantly changing the tension and cause the strings to snap. or at least give out

[abstract yarrow]

i keep them in the cornor of my room away from sunlight, i havent used them in a long ass time so that might be why

[lethal fractal]

I mean it can... But the likely hood of it is low, we stretch our strings when putting them on which I feel puts more stress on the string then moving tunings.

Thinner strings like 9s or 8s would be when maybe it could have an effect, sharp edges at string contact points (bridge, nut, tuners, saddles) are the real killer when tuning.

[lethal fractal]

I could put on new strings not touch them and they be dead in 2 weeks from the climate 😭

[abstract yarrow]

oh dam what climate is that? 😭

[lethal fractal]

A basement in Canada haha. The winters it's much better as it's a lot dryer, my wood necks take a big hit as well

[abstract yarrow]

oh wow, you know what i honestly never took into account that stuff could effect guitars and such

[lethal fractal]

For sure, probably good you never have shows you probably never had any big issues with it.
I also work on guitars and fix them for fun and it's a big part of playing guitar for me so I'm very picky on that stuff...

[hexed igloo]

12-60 for drop c is lowkey insane for me

i think thats what i have on my drop a# guitar?

i usually go 11s for drop c, sometimes 10s

[harsh fern]

hotttt

[lethal fractal]

Yummy

[lethal fractal]

For a lot of rythm playing it can be nice

Although it still is on the tighter end...

[balmy vortex]

It’s a lot for drop c

I’d personally grab an 10-48 set and use a 52 for the low c

[lethal fractal]

Yea, I sometimes like really tight strings they have that weird twang sound I sometimes like.
That's strictly for really fast and heavy rythm picking though only time I'll use them that tight.

[balmy vortex]

If I’m playing fast rhythm I’d still go light with what I do cuz it adds more brightness. But at that point I’m picking extremely efficiency based since I can always add power if it’s necessary

[lethal fractal]

Yea for sure, I like my lower strings around 18lbs and my higher strings around 14lbs
I really like deep heavy picking on heavy low strings because they sound dark but have that tight twang.... It's not an efficient picking style it's purely just for the weird tone.

14 or less

It depends on the guitar... I want to play around more with guages and sonic stuff but don't have the time at all.

[graceful socket]

recently made a fresh install of Windows, now somehow all my plugins and drivers dont work anymore....

I really hate my computer recently dude.

[graceful socket]

mood

[lethal fractal]

Woahhhh????

Nooooooo

[graceful socket]

ngl, this is seriously fkin me up rn

like why the fuck does my Gojira standalone take 2 minutes before it properly boots and why does it make my Reaper crash when opening it there? Why does the same shit happen with STL tones? Why the heck do I have latency issues that I didnt have before with the same settings? I´m going nuts

[lethal fractal]

:
Have you tried reinstalling them again and it's just been not working?

[graceful socket]

did that for Gojira, didnt do shit. Might try re-installing all audio shit, but if that doesnt work I´m done and also all of this just robs me of all motivation

[lethal fractal]

For sure, reinstalling the audio drivers might be the best bet and just try and get a fresh restart with the new windows. Though to have the motivation to do all of that is super hard after how demotivating this has already been...
I really hope you can get the motivation to just be able to setup a fresh start as it has to work.

[graceful socket]

I´ll certainly try. I just want to get back to jamming and practicing but just cant do it like this. I´mma go ahead and try my best until I´ve solved it or give up

[lethal fractal]

Like having a fresh start can feel super fun but you really gotta be in the mood for it.
Hopefully you can try and it works if not just take 15 minutes go for a walk around breath in the air and bring yourself to the excitement of getting a new fresh slate that you can have setup perfectly how you want.

[graceful socket]

Yeah, I reset everything for one because I had issues with my computer on the technical side (which I hopefully solved, fingers crossed) and took the opportunity to get a fresh start.
Now my hard drive is nice and clean, but nothing works anymore. I´mma de-install everything, update all drivers, re-install shit, and try again, hopefully that´ll do it. Might have to get some adapters for my audio interface as well, so far I´ve always circumvented ASIO outputs because my speakers dont have the proper 6,25mm cables to make it work directly. Let´s see. Thanks for the motivation dude

[lethal fractal]

Yea that's the issue with a fresh start gotta build back up that goes for anything in life...
But make the best of it and focus on that fact you get to have everything you want now and you get to make it exactly how you want it.
Goodluck on the cables.

Keep us updated on how it goes, make this your new perfect rig.

[final sky]

What's a decent amp to start with in the $300-500 range?

[lethal fractal]

What kind of music do you want to play?

[final sky]

Just getting into the metal scene, coming from the indie scene.

Been really into Archspire and Rings of Saturn recently. Specifically RoS's Ultu Ulla album and Archspires Relentless Mutation

Already picked up a Schecter omen- 8 elite multiscale as my first electric guitar, third overall.

[lethal fractal]

Indie to archspire and rings of Saturn damn

[final sky]

Hitting 30 does shit to ya

[lethal fractal]

Fair enough, ugh I'll look. Do you want just an amp head or a combo amp?

[lethal fractal]

As well USD?

[final sky]

Yeah, USD

[final sky]

Either or. Think I've found one?

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Kata100mk3Bn1--boss-katana-100-gen-3-100-watt-1-by-12-inch-combo-amplifier-essentials-bundle

[lethal fractal]

Get just the amp not the bundle... The that amp definitely could work for ya. If you can go to a store and try them out first see if you like them.

I'd also recommend you could look into blackstars catalog of amps, get an amp and a distortion pedal probably a good starter setup

[graceful socket]

Update, apparently NDSP Gojira is fucked. Dont ask me why, but it takes 3,5 minutes to load/boot, standalone and in Reaper. Shit´s fucked, reinstalling didnt help, now lets see what the support has to say cuz the internet isnt helpful either.

[lethal fractal]

Nuerals support is honestly amazing, never had one issue with them.

They have spent hours working with me on my computer to sort out problems like that.

[graceful socket]

Damn, that´s huge

gonna shoot them a mail if I dont get it working

[lethal fractal]

100%
I'm friends with some of the beta testers and stuff for the QCs as well, really great group.
They should be able to sort it out.

[hoary vector]

If looking for all in one boss katana is the most versatile

[final sky]

I'll check out the guitar shop after work 🙏

Any sort of distortion pedal would do?

I've only ever had a lute and a flamenco 😅

[lethal fractal]

They all will sound different so I'd try out a few different ones with the amp you plan to get to see what you like.

[final sky]

🙏

[hoary vector]

the amp also has software support to tweak tones

[abstract yarrow]

i fouind 12 and 60 was the best for me, held really really tightly and played so so nice. perfect for Soad

[balmy vortex]

QC’s

[lethal fractal]

Nom nom

[balmy vortex]

Cute lil revv

[gritty garden]

Don't need it, got the big boi version 🤣

[harsh fern]

luckyy, ill be getting it cuz i cant afford the quad

[gritty garden]

Dunno why but guitar amps are pleasing to look at

[balmy vortex]

They are aren’t they

[gritty garden]

I want the rockerverb head just so the cab and head match, even tho it's unlikely I'd ever use the tube amp lmao

I'm kind of regretting getting the black version tho considering their signature is that colour but oh well.

[balmy vortex]

They’re too good together ngl

[harsh fern]

for a beginner bedroom guitarist (like me) i feel like getting a quad would be a waste of money, cuz i can get a nano cortex, have all those captures to play with, and get something like the digitech whammy

but now if i did more serious stuff like play live or do genuine songs and not just my lil instrumental projects, then yeah id prolly get the quad

[gritty garden]

I mean you could also just use the Neural plug ins too and save yourself a heap of money

Especially as now they've started integrating plug-ins on the QC you could use them on that when you upgade lol

[harsh fern]

i already do. the gojira x and fortin nameless x, but i wanna experience the captures of something like rare expensive amps

[harsh fern]

tru that

[lethal fractal]

Go to guitar shops and try out the fancy amps haha

[harsh fern]

none near me

[harsh fern]

im currently working in the tourist hotspot of croatia, Dubrovnik

and there isnt a single music related store here

;-;

[lethal fractal]

That sucks

[gritty garden]

Having the screen is so much of a game changer, and a big complaint that the nano doesn't have one

[harsh fern]

so if i wanna buy anything music related, Germany and thomann are my best friends

[lethal fractal]

Yea... I luckily just started a savings for a QC still down the line of things to pay off and save for but it's officially started

[lethal fractal]

Yea...

[harsh fern]

id do the same, but im just not sure if im ready to spend that much money

the most money i ever spent in one go is on my schecter sunset 7 extreme

and that was 1k

[gritty garden]

Save up PAST what you need. It makes things easier when you're not blowing your "life savings". I aim for 3x the list price that way if another emergency comes up, or there's a fault etc you have money to cover it and aren't left short.

[lethal fractal]

That's fair, I also only have to pay for 50% of one as I got support from a parent who is going to match whatever I put towards one.

I don't think a QC is worth it for just recording at home as well. So if you aren't playing live or with groups often I don't see a reason for one.

[gritty garden]

Case and point, I just bought a 9 month old car, spent a decent chunk on the deposit... Less than 3 months later someone has already scuffed the bumper so I need to get that repaired. Thankfully I did the 3x the value so I can cover the cost of the repair without substantial hardship

[harsh fern]

smart

thats why im like, ehhhhh thats expensive-
cuz the most i ever got from my pay check is 1.5k euro a month

and it varries each month

[gritty garden]

Obviously tweak to taste/requirements. I don't expect to have 3x the value of a house to put a deposit down

But on a £1500 piece of kit, you want at least £3000 saved up, £2000 at a push

[lethal fractal]

I just have to many wants, currently saving for my first fursuit partial, a custom outfit and a used car.
Once those are done QC is on its way.

[lethal fractal]

Put 10%-15% aside towards something slowly save up.

[harsh fern]

same here-
gotta try for a drivers license soon
the nano cortex
a vr headset

i need to lower my expectations

xD

[gritty garden]

Yep, find a method that suits you. I have about 15 bank accounts 🤣 and just do a standing order at the start of each month and work out what everything costs annually, then split that down by periods, and then just "bill" myself that

[harsh fern]

jeez

das a lot

xD

[lethal fractal]

I just work my butt off because I want so much so mine as well work as much as I can when I have the energy and time so I can get what I want later be happy and have the free time to enjoy them.

[harsh fern]

same here

this is my first job, right after school started working fulltime at one of the biggest tourist spots in croatia

xD

[gritty garden]

You live at home with parents?

[lethal fractal]

Yea working out costs and budgeting has been a big help.

I have my monthly costs always layed out.
As well meal prep can't stress that enough batch cook food for each week and eating out as little as possible has saved me a lot...

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[harsh fern]

nop, moved to my aunt's place to get this job, literally the other side of the country

[gritty garden]

OK, what I meant was, you're not having to foot a full rent bill, gas and electric etc. So while you can, throw as much in savings, preferably a tax wrapper savings account

[lethal fractal]

^

[lethal fractal]

Nixe

[gritty garden]

I'm earning upwards of 2K a year just from interest alone, and because it's in a tax free savings account I don't have to pay tax on it

[lethal fractal]

I just took on a manufacturing job doing custom metal work and installing windows for buildings.
First full time gig, then weekends and free time I tend to my knife sharpening business and any other work needed.

[lethal fractal]

Yummy, what is it with musical people knowing this stuff?

My trumpet teacher has been teaching me a lot about this stuff as well lol.

[gritty garden]

No idea, I just looked into it all when I started building substantial savings and wanted to make sure I was getting maximum retuns from it

[lethal fractal]

For sure, maybe because our gigs are so expensive lol

[harsh fern]

you see i would start doing all that

if i knew how to-

literally everyone i know here in croatia only has one bank account and thats it

i wouldnt even know where to start with all that

[gritty garden]

So I have two long term pots one with stocks and shares, and the other normal savings, both tax wrappers. Both have the same amount in but the rate of return on the stocks is sat at 15% year on year, compared to 4.3% on my cash alternative

Literally, lmao