Guitars & Bass

[nimble jungle]

The prices are insane

[lethal fractal]

Hb cuts corners in some places to make them that cheap but they are alright

[toxic wharf]

They are good for that price

Theres also guitars that are good for 150 dollars

Does it make em good guitars? I dont know...depends on your standard I suppose

They are budget guitars and ought to be judged as such

[wind mauve]

see and that’s what i was thinking

cause the conversation i was having was about guitars in the $900-$1600 price range, with my intention being to get recommendations that:

• fell in that price range
• were 7 stringed
• had either 26.5”+ scale length and/or multiscale

so getting recommended guitars that cost as much as my current one felt a bit odd

like they meet 2/3 criteria but the missing one is arguably the most important

[lethal fractal]

Ibanez has a few that fit that...

[toxic wharf]

Yeah but I think he wants cheaper than that and go for a budget guitar? I feel most guitars from 300 or below are almost interchangeable.

[lethal fractal]

I'd just do the 1.6k if he has it

[toxic wharf]

Either way, its hard to follow as Candle changes the guitar hes planning on buying for 6 months every 2 weeks

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[wind mauve]

ye i mean

there's a lotta options

and i got a long wait anyways

might as well look at em all

[wind mauve]

the axion label that comes with fishies looks pretty good overall, i know someone in here has it as well

[wind mauve]

no, i personally want to save up and not get a budget guitar but an actually half-decent one, which is why i specified that price range

[lethal fractal]

Ya it's not the worst.

[wind mauve]

for like $1.4k it had better not be the worst

[toxic wharf]

Ah yes, its a good price range but than I wont forego on Legator amd Harley Benton alltogether

[wind mauve]

i mean the only thing legator has going for it is that the headless models are basically the cheapest you can get

[lethal fractal]

I'm not a fan of active pickups either way...

[wind mauve]

well actually they do have one other thing

[lethal fractal]

That cheap part shows...

[wind mauve]

this thing

is really pretty to look at

[toxic wharf]

Looks kinda sweet

[wind mauve]

$2.6k on reverb

[toxic wharf]

Dont know the brand

[wind mauve]

legator

[lethal fractal]

^

[wind mauve]

ladkor is the reseller

[toxic wharf]

For 2.6K?

[wind mauve]

yuh its one of their high-end models

comes with fish men

[lethal fractal]

I know people with leg guitars but the finishes on them also have shown to be ass and scrape off fast

[toxic wharf]

For 2.6K Id see if theres a prestige somewhere

[lethal fractal]

^

[wind mauve]

yeah i dont plan on buying it

i just think it looks really nice

some eye candy for when i get up on stage and start playing brutal deathcore

[fervent fox]

$2.6k?????

[toxic wharf]

Or even the cheaper Abasi Larada Legion

For 2K

[wind mauve]

eye candy besides the actual guitarist that is

i mean if i'm getting into the 2k range

im gonna order a custom aristides or something

[toxic wharf]

Some Quality control issues but only on the finish

[lethal fractal]

Cad to be fair I hope

[wind mauve]

yes CAD

[fervent fox]

Oh CAD

I was gonna say

[wind mauve]

also the shipping is like another five hundred cause that reseller is in eastern europe

[lethal fractal]

Mine as well book two plan tickets

Plane

[fervent fox]

I literally just googled this

[wind mauve]

speaking of this tho there is a guitar solo contest running with abasi and GGD and you can win a 6 string larada

my ass is not winning

but imma try

[toxic wharf]

Good luck

[wind mauve]

the backing track was made by misha and nolly

and it sounds periphery as hell

impossible to shred over istg

[toxic wharf]

Why?

[lethal fractal]

Whaaaaa

[toxic wharf]

If Holdsworth amd other people can shred over his own stuff, Im sure people should be able to shred over something Misha and Nolly wrote

[lethal fractal]

As well it's shred you just gotta stay within the chords and the time signature I mean you could even modulate the time sig and do some big 5 note grouping sweeps

[wind mauve]

a. i suck
b. it has really odd timing

[lethal fractal]

What 32/3.14

[toxic wharf]

Time signature shouldnt be a big deal.

[lethal fractal]

Just modulate it

[toxic wharf]

As long as you stick to the tempo

So if the click is 120 bpm you can play phrases in 5/8 or 4/4 or 7/8 or whatever as long as you stick to the tempo and the chords implied

Its basically how Misha also wrotes his riffs. He ommits the accents on the metronome amd than plays around with the drum programming

[lethal fractal]

You can write 4/4 over 5/8 as long as they line up in the end...

Pollymeters

[wind mauve]

alright

now the other problem then

i suck

[lethal fractal]

Record each phrase one by one and stitch it together

[wind mauve]

ye i could do that

[toxic wharf]

Or note per note

[wind mauve]

they also want an IG video

[toxic wharf]

Just mimmick like all IG guitarists

[wind mauve]

miming what i play wouldn't be too hard i would just have to remember what i played

😦

[toxic wharf]

Well...yes but if you cant do that...

[lethal fractal]

Just tab it out

[wind mauve]

we'll get there

[lethal fractal]

Have fun playing live though

[wind mauve]

one step at a time

live? lmao

its in IG contest

once i submit my entry i plan to forget i even entered

[lethal fractal]

In the future if you can't remember

[toxic wharf]

This man gonna cheat his way through the contest. Why bother playing live

[lethal fractal]

He said he is gonna deathcore live

[wind mauve]

you know the band king crimson

[lethal fractal]

Sorta

[toxic wharf]

Yeah but for deathcore you can suck as a guitarplayer

[wind mauve]

and they have that song Dr. Diamond that doesn't have a studio recording

[toxic wharf]

In fact...its almost necessary

[wind mauve]

and every live recording they play it slightly differently

yeah

[lethal fractal]

Almost all bands play different live then in the studio

[wind mauve]

no literally they play different riffs sometimes

there's one recording where the bass blows out every other instrument besides the drums and there's like a four minute interlude

[toxic wharf]

Cause its King Crimson

[wind mauve]

banger song tho honestly

[toxic wharf]

They are oldskool prog

Its basically showing off

[wind mauve]

i can take inspiration from them tho

for my brutal clowncore band (this is a thing im not kidding)

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[toxic wharf]

I feel if thats what you going for you need the cheapest shittiest guitar you can find

Really hammer down that clowncore aspect

4 metalzones plugged in

[wind mauve]

imma get that tri-metal pedal my teacher has

but yeah i mean i already got the ibby gio

conic just experienced heart palpitations

[lethal fractal]

Just no pedals only amp dirt

[wind mauve]

i'll use my spider v30

is what i would say but i've been using archetype nolly for the demos

[gritty garden]

Personally I'd avoid budget barrel guitars in general, but if that's all you are likely to afford then needs must.

[wind mauve]

ye and i was saying that too

but they recommended it to me and i'd never heard of them

[open fjord]

Alrighty boys

Which should I mod with BKPs?

Left or right?

[balmy vortex]

LTD

[open fjord]

Whynot the Strat? :3

[balmy vortex]

because 24 frets

[lethal fractal]

Ltd

What bkps do you want?

[open fjord]

I already have em. They're Cold Sweats.

[fervent fox]

Right (LTD)

[open fjord]

I initially bought them to put in a PRS but I rarely use it anymore. But then I decided to switch out the Deathbuckers in my Strat because I wanted more of the character of BKPs with a similar EQ of the Deathbucker.

Seems a lot of people want me to throw the BKPs in the LTD.

[lethal fractal]

Yes

What would you do with the deaths?

[open fjord]

I'm not quite sure.

I know I do want to replace them. I've had them in for about a decade now and I bought them when I didn't know shit about pickups.

[lethal fractal]

Fair

I'm just excited for my aristides

[open fjord]

I would be too lol.

Also I bought my Cold Sweats when I was getting deeper into pickups and how they sounded.

I tried BKPs once and that was Aftermaths and while they were cool. Tonally I didn't care for them (they were in an Ibanez Axiom Label and I was going through a 5150 Iconic into the matching cab).

I've tried out a lot of pickups since including DiMarzios which I don't like at all (minus the Petrucci ones), Duncans which I really like a lot (found them in different Charvels), EMGs which....they are what they are, and Fishmans which I also really like.

But there are not many guitars loaded with BKPs which kind of sucks because I do want to try more BKP loaded guitars.

[lethal fractal]

My baby cusions are over and the youngest is asking me guitar questions and I'm just like 0_0

She won't get interested in guitar shred so I don't know what to do

I don't know what to do with kids when I got only instruments

Although my keyboard does have a feature where you press a key and it does a beat might be something

[lethal fractal]

I love Duncan's in Charvels such a classic... I hate Fishmans.
The cold sweat seem nice not what I would use for my playing but bkp will always just be great.

[open fjord]

With my style of playing, I do a lot of Mark Tremonti style stuff as well as some Karnivool and Sum-41 stuff.

[lethal fractal]

Ya for sure what do yours look like?

[open fjord]

Lemme see if I can find it.

[lethal fractal]

Alright

[open fjord]

I'm not home so I gotta find the puckture

[lethal fractal]

Did you get some custom stuff done?

[open fjord]

A little.

Carbon Fiber covers.

With gold pole pieces.

[lethal fractal]

Beautiful

Those would also look better in the ltd in my opinion

[open fjord]

Yeah it's probably work aesthetically dude to the LTDs light fretboard.

[lethal fractal]

Yes and the more desaturated colour and it being satin.

[fervent fox]

What were your thoughts on the finishes they had for their pickups?

[lethal fractal]

I just am curious what there custom engraving is like.

If they offer that

[vapid axle]

No way we got guitar black ice now

[open fjord]

Someone plays Siege lol

[vapid axle]

Unfortunately

[open fjord]

There were two guitars I tried with Fishies. One was an Epiphone SG Prophecy Modern with the Moderns in em and they sang like a bird.

The other one was an Ibanez RDG and by god....it was awesome. I like Cermamic pickups lol.

For context. It was this Ibanez

[fervent fox]

I meant for the BKPs 😅

But I do like me Fishmens and that Ibanez is a beaut

[lethal fractal]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4pORbeNW5Q/?igsh=NjZ0MzJkMmwxN2xr

aristidesguitars

Check out this fretless Aristides H/08 in our beautiful Bronze Oxidized finish loaded with @emgpickups !!

Likes

2296

Instagram

Cool guitar

[wind mauve]

speaking of bear kanuckles

the polymath ones that are uncovered but have the etched design

look so fucking nice

love em

[lethal fractal]

I love covered pickups... Also will be probably better for what I'm doing

[wind mauve]

the covered ones with the etched design look nice

but the uncovered ones are just

😩

like look at that

thats hot

[lethal fractal]

I don't like the look of the dual posted covers though

[lethal fractal]

I mmm

[open fjord]

My local Sam Ash let me try it once. Since they know me, I walked in one day just to look around and they're like "Hey, wanna try something cool?" And they handed me that guitar lol.

[wind mauve]

H/S/H?

[toxic wharf]

I love that Jem

Yes

[wind mauve]

the covers look dope tho

[toxic wharf]

Probably with a sustaniac

[lethal fractal]

How many kids do I need to sell?

[toxic wharf]

Since its Vai

[wind mauve]

there’s definitely some steampunk themed prog power metal band out there

[toxic wharf]

I think price was it was about 3500

[wind mauve]

that is using that right now

[lethal fractal]

Oh that's not bad

[wind mauve]

so like three kids about

[toxic wharf]

Its not bad

[wind mauve]

I saw a $45,000 acoustic seven string made in Japan on reverb once

fanned fret too

[lethal fractal]

I don't like that pickgaurd to much probably grow on me though

[toxic wharf]

I dig it

[wind mauve]

yeah it looks cool

[open fjord]

OHHHHH okay. I really do like the finishes on the BKPs. They're fuckin awesome.

[lethal fractal]

I got 2 probably can hassle it

[wind mauve]

if they’re strong and can do decent work then yeah

bundle in a pickaxe you’re set

[lethal fractal]

I was more thinking organs black market stuff but ya that works.

[wind mauve]

nah no one needs kid organs

gotta hit the adults for that it’s the adults that need transplants usually

[lethal fractal]

Lots of kids are born with issues

I think flamed maple would look better on that guitar but I mean meh

Still looks very nice

[open fjord]

@wind mauve @toxic wharf

[wind mauve]

the LTD

[open fjord]

Lol the LTD is winning.

Strat losing badly lol.

With the Strat I'm tryna go with the purple and black thing.

[toxic wharf]

I dont like the pups on the strat much style wise, but would say they fit the ltd better

[open fjord]

Yeah I figured lol.

Who knows, if I like em in the LTD I'll order another pair for the Strat.

Make em look different

[fervent fox]

To me those pickups would just look more esthetically pleasing and feeling on the LTD than the Strat. But it’s your choice at the end of the day

[open fjord]

Fair enough lol.

Cuz I do want to try them in something before I permanently leave them in something y'know?

I might try them in the Strat as a tone test since all the wiring is on the pickguard itself so it's easier.

[lethal fractal]

Wondering if anyone has an answer to this... Dose anyone know if you can flutter on a headless guitars whammy bar?

[toxic wharf]

Yes

Depends on the trem system, but on a 'normal' floating system this should be possible. The headlessness of a guitar has no influence over that

The only problem might be the but for a traditional floyd rose system, but flutter generally depends on the backspring, not on the nut

I mean, you probably get more flutter on a double locking system, but you can flutter on a headless guitar

[lethal fractal]

Alright, the trem I had in mind is the one on the aristides guitars... Probably something I should directly ask them as well.

[fervent fox]

Well I know what 7 string I want next after much delegation. Just gotta pull the trigger at the right opportunity

[toxic wharf]

They just gonna say you can do 'flutters' fine @lethal fractal

[lethal fractal]

I'm just not going to go headless was talking with some people who own abunch of them about trems

I got 2 years to look into things and make up my mind on parts

Although with if I get this pizza job with working 3 jobs might be sooner

[wind mauve]

ah this reminded me of the Matt heafy sig

too bad the heafster is only 25.5” no fanned fret no nothin

and glossy

[toxic wharf]

If you want an optimized trem system its definitely better not to go headless yes

[lethal fractal]

Ya

[lethal fractal]

What would you recommend I get for my trem?

[bright latch]

How do I access the battery pack on the back ?

[toxic wharf]

If you want an optimized trem system its definitely better not to go headless yes

[lethal fractal]

Why did that double send hugh

[toxic wharf]

Dont know...if its multiscale a great trem system with the same capabilities as a proper floating system is a bit of a pipedream

[lethal fractal]

Straight

[fervent fox]

2 things though:

1). I absolutely refuse to own any artist signature models….doesn’t excuse the fact that I own a Gary Holt sig guitar but that was a totally different circumstance

2). It’s an Epiphone so… ew

[wind mauve]

yeah that’s fair

i just don’t like glossy necks and the scale length is too short

even for Trivium songs

otherwise tho, i played one and it’s phenomenal

[fervent fox]

I’ve seen it in action from other people besides Matt. It’s nifty I’ll give it that but something about this ESP model with an Evertune bridge AND locking tuners
Plus I’m a sucker for gold on black (ebony) finishes idk why

[wind mauve]

i have no qualms about signatures

if it's good enough to get the stamp of approval from someone who's music i listen to

then shit it's probably good enough for me

[open fjord]

So apparently the Cold Sweat Bridge is a less hot Nailbomb.

[toxic wharf]

Cool

[tame frigate]

I mean it works

[toxic wharf]

Original Ibanez Edge bridges are the best trem systems imo, otherwise original floyd

[lethal fractal]

That's what I had in mind... okay thanks

[balmy vortex]

You should try the gotoh 1996t trems

[toxic wharf]

I did on a Suhr guitar. Not for very long but will probably not change my love for the original edge

[open fjord]

Meanwhile me: I HATE FLOYDS.

Ibanez EDGE included.

[harsh fern]

Yo guys, any recommendations for getting a first 7 string? Im from EU and dont have much money to work off of :/

[toxic wharf]

You can handle a trem system or you cant 🤷‍♂️

[open fjord]

I can handle a trem, just not a Floyd lol.

[ember inlet]

Idk about brands or models but definitely check out the website Reverb. There is a lot of used stuff and you can find pretty good deals

[harsh fern]

idk, im always very weary of buying used stuff, i checked for my country and there is like 2 or 3 7 string guitars being sold here :c

[ember inlet]

I get that
I bought a used mic and an audio interface from reverb and everything went well but you can never be sure

[harsh fern]

yea, especially for me, buying stuff outside of my country is very suboptimal, because of the customs, last time i bought something used from outside my country customs really messed me up, and me being 18 and unemployed doesnt help me sadly

[wind mauve]

fellas i think i found the guitar to gun for

jackson x series dinky 7

multiscale, $830 so it's at least slightly quality, i actually played it in the store so i know i like it, direct point of comparison is the $3899 ESP 7 string i played just before this one that i just didn't like in the slightest

[lethal fractal]

Used Ibanez Prestige... I don't know your price range

[harsh fern]

i dont think i can really find used ibanez prestige in my country, and as i said before, buying used from outside my country is massive pain because customs

my price range probably wont be higher 1k

and thats like

the high upper range

for me

[lethal fractal]

1k usd or euro?

[harsh fern]

Euro

[lethal fractal]

Any specifics you want with a 7 string? Scale length, bridge type...

[harsh fern]

Not really anything specific im looking for, maybe just a little longer scale length, 26.5 to 27

I just wanna learn my fav songs on a 7 string

[lethal fractal]

Hard tail or trem?

[harsh fern]

Either works, as i said theres not really any specific specs im looking for

[lethal fractal]

Yea just bridge type can make a big difference... I'll look see what I can come up with

[harsh fern]

Yea, currently i have an ibanez grg121 dx, so getting a guitar with a hard tail would be familiar, but a trem would be intresting to learn, setup and all that

[lethal fractal]

Sterling by Music Man Jason Richardson7 or the petrucci.

RGD Standard 7-String, RG7320EX 7-String.

HT7P Pro Series Signature Misha Mansoor Juggernaut 7.

Schecter Sunset-7 Triad or extreme.

LTD EC-257 7-String.

SE Mark Holcomb SVN 7-String.

Just some ideas of things off the top of my head all around your price bit more bit less or around what you said.

Look online at used or stores the deliver...

[harsh fern]

Sick, tysm for take the time out of your day to help me <3
Ill look at them tomorrow, is pretty late

[wind mauve]

i can confirm that reverb sellers usually sell the juggernaut and mark holcomb 7s for at or above MSRP

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[wind mauve]

so if you want those, i say fuck the resellers buy it new

esp the juggernaut

its like $1200 at L&M

[lethal fractal]

They are in EU

[wind mauve]

reverb listings start at $1300

[lethal fractal]

Canada don't matter

[wind mauve]

ye but still

its probably cheaper in EU

[lethal fractal]

Yea

And People tend to be nicer

[wind mauve]

but yeah did you see that jackson i was talkin bout

$830, fanned fret jackson

[lethal fractal]

Hope you find something

[wind mauve]

got to play it in the store

i think she's the one

[lethal fractal]

Which one?

I didn't see

[wind mauve]

https://www.long-mcquade.com/130464/Guitars/Electric-Guitars/Jackson-Guitars/X-Series-Dinky-Arch-Top-DKAF7-MS--Laurel-Fingerboard---Multi-Scale--Gloss-Black.htm

this one

i also played a $3899 ESP 7 and it felt worse than the jackson did

[lethal fractal]

Maybe new pickups but if it works for you it works

[wind mauve]

yeah thats what folks were saying

but it'd be a decent guitar to pickup swap nonetheless

put some fishies in maybe some locking tuners

and like i said, i was able to play it in person, and it played really nice

[lethal fractal]

A lot go into that might play well now but 6-7 years who's know probably still fine. Get and do as you wish

[wind mauve]

uh

that was about 40% understandable

[lethal fractal]

I was getting chocked out for an hour today my brain is not at 100%

[wind mauve]

im not even gonna ask

[open fjord]

https://www.schecterguitars.com/Traditional-Pro-with-Roasted-Maple-Fretboard?quantity=1&custitem_color_master_list=1025

I want to try one so badly.

[lethal fractal]

Looks nice

[open fjord]

INDEED

It's like what I want my Strat to be like.

[lethal fractal]

Coming from someone who isn't a fan of schecter but can you mess up that no... I think it would look better with a Tele body but I'm also in the mood for Tele lately

[open fjord]

They have Tele shapes

Hold up.

[lethal fractal]

why do babies exist

[lethal fractal]

For that series? Cool.

Better not have two humbuckers

[open fjord]

Idk for that series. But Schecter does make nice Teles.

[lethal fractal]

Yea I have seen some of the stuff

[open fjord]

https://www.schecterguitars.com/PT-Classic?quantity=1&custitem_color_master_list=1069

Check this out

THE PURPLE ONE IS GAS

It has humbuckers

But it's really nice.

[lethal fractal]

Bruh I got to get up in 4 hours is it worth sleeping

[open fjord]

Oh sorry bruh I didn't know. You go sleep.

[lethal fractal]

I've always thought these looked like 💩
Doesn't matter then company

[lethal fractal]

Dealing with

If a 4 year old counts

[open fjord]

It counts

You go sleep big man.

[lethal fractal]

I wish but kid is crying over cups and water 0_0

Hmm do I cancel my afternoon workout and just go to the night one or try to power through hmmm

[open fjord]

oof

[lethal fractal]

Get cup of water no I want this cup grabs cup I don't want that cup anymore

0_0

WHAT?

[dry parrot]

drop kick him

no one will know

[lethal fractal]

She's like 2 feet tall the thing would be the first human on Mars

[dry parrot]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2Tt5CzJzz53tVCicnDwh2a?si=a99a2a3c12114f7a
how do they get that little sound at the beginning, sounds like a palm mute or something but sustained idk

[storm mulch]

You using 7 string or whatever that is

Actually

[dry parrot]

are they detuning

[storm mulch]

Hmm

Yea

Their downtuning

Idk what tuning thrown uses but ik it’s pretty high (sarcasm)

[dry parrot]

i have a floyd guitar in drop c

lemme try that

[storm mulch]

I think their using 7 or 8 string

Cause that’s pretty low

[dry parrot]

do i actually have to detune

tuning back up is such a pain

[storm mulch]

Yea you do

Yes they use 7 strings

[lethal fractal]

No

Probably pitch shifter

Unless you are just asking tuning and not the affecte

Affect

Also could just be a bar

[dry parrot]

time to go out and buy a 7 string with a tremolo system

[storm mulch]

Yea they use 7 strings and like some weird effects

Ik they use wah pedals too

But for that sound one chord is unmuted

That makes no sense

[dry parrot]

someone doing a cover is muting the strings and what looks like a pinch harmonic

because its a really cool sound

or no its probably effects

[storm mulch]

It’s a wah pedal

Unless it’s some other noise

[dry parrot]

oh its natural harmonics

but the rare ones near the bottom

[storm mulch]

Those ain’t rare just

[storm mulch]

Very cool

[dry parrot]

i mean you hardly hear or see them

thats what i meant

the 5 7 9 12 are common ish

anyways

yapping aside i think i finally kinda got it

[storm mulch]

Oh the 32 type ones

[dry parrot]

just the 4s dont sound the same

[storm mulch]

Well good luck

[dry parrot]

i just learned the first fret of my 7 string is really annoying

it bends up a whole half step if i press too hard

[lethal fractal]

Press to hard on any fret and it will go out of tune

[dry parrot]

i guess i never noticed that till now

despite 5 years of guitar

maybe i just have a light touch

[lethal fractal]

It's like bending off the neck can be fun

[graceful socket]

my goodness, I finally changed strings after bout 10 months and the difference in tone and feel is insane, holy fuck. How could I wait this long to finally do it

[harsh fern]

just looked up the guitars, only the 3 of the would be kinda viable to get
the ibanez RG7420EX, the schecter Sunset -7 Extreme and the PRS SE Mark Holcomb

easiest would be to get the ibanez

because the other two are quite a lot more expensive for me

like, the schecter sunset 7 is 1.2k euro for me :(

and the prs one is 1.1k

the sunset 7 extreme is like

probaby the dream guitar for me atm, but its just so expensive that im not sure if ill be able to actually buy it

but anyways, tysm for the recommendations, i really appriciate it!

[lethal fractal]

No worries

[harsh fern]

https://www.thomann.de/intl/harley_benton_baritone_7sb_dlx_series.htm

i also found this one

27" and locking tuners

by the looks of it people seem to like it

[fervent fox]

Harley Benton is considered a good entry level guitar brand

I’d be swapping out those pickups though that’s for sure

[harsh fern]

any solid pickups? preferably nothing too expensive

[fervent fox]

Define expensive?

[harsh fern]

uhhhh

i dont know whats like, the usual pricing for pickups

nothink more than 200 euro maybe?

but fuck id have to solder it no? i dont have a soldering iron-

[fervent fox]

So if it were me buying a pickup set for a 7 string baritone guitar that’s PASSIVE I’d be getting myself the Seymour Duncan 7-String Nazgul Sentient pickup set. Unfortunately they are a bit pricey together but most 7 string pickups are gonna be that way unless you buy them individually to save some cash. But this is me speaking on what I would want personally. Look around and see what catches your eye really. You might like Active pickups more than Passive pickups for all I know

[fervent fox]

You can hire someone to do it that if you don’t wanna

[harsh fern]

ill look into it

ty for the help <3

i really like how this one is like full black

https://www.thomann.de/intl/seymour_duncan_mark_holcomb_scourge_hu_br_7.htm

but thats 200 for just one i think

which is

[dire kayak]

that's overpriced though

stock pickups work well

you just want something that isn't muddy, you don't need fancy overpriced Seymour Duncan's

[harsh fern]

yea

[dire kayak]

pickups make little change in tone anyways, don't fall for the marketing

[harsh fern]

oh yeah i know that

[dire kayak]

if it's not muddy, it's fine

[harsh fern]

most of the sound is in the speaker

[dire kayak]

i got a cheap Jackson with stock pickups and they're good

I built a nice guitar with emgs and they're ok

the only high end pickups I think are worth it might be fishmans because of their total difference compared to other pickups

[harsh fern]

i see

[dire kayak]

other than that you can buy Seymour duncan clones or whatever on Amazon for 50 bucks, and they're fine if you can wire them up most of yhe time

but this is most important of all: if it ain't broke don't fix it

[harsh fern]

alright, we will see when i get it

well

if i get it

first gotta save up for the guitar

[dire kayak]

if the stock pickups don't sound like shit, keep them

[harsh fern]

cuz for me even the 300 euro is kinda expensive

[harsh fern]

yea thats what i was thinking

but just incase

so i at least have the knowlage of what to pick it they sound muddy

[dire kayak]

if they're noisy, that's a common issue with harley Benton's, just ground them first before replacing

[harsh fern]

oh yeah thats another thing

in my current ibanez i think these pickups are kinda noisy \

[dire kayak]

that takes about 20 minutes

[harsh fern]

how would i ground it?

[dire kayak]

check if the bridge is grounded

it should have a little wire under it or on the back

[harsh fern]

ill check when i replace the strings

should do that, didnt replace them in 4 months now

im also thinking abt removing the pickup cover

just for the looks

[dire kayak]

sometimes that's more difficult than it seems

i was gonna remove the Jackson pickup cover, it was welded with plastic though

[harsh fern]

oof

i saw that one one guy's guitar it was just glue

[dire kayak]

it can range from glue to solder

[harsh fern]

welp, we will see once i change the strings

if its glue ill try, its not, well its only for looks anyways its not that important

[dire kayak]

well if it's metal I think it compresses sound slightly but not enough to make a difference

[harsh fern]

nah its plastic

[dire kayak]

then yeah no effect other than looks

[harsh fern]

mhm, i kinda like the look of just exposed pickups

[dire kayak]

same

[harsh fern]

but yeah, i think ill just get the HB baritone 7 if i can save up for it

[dire kayak]

maybe I can remove the covers from my schecter

[harsh fern]

and then later down the line hopefully treat myself to a schecter sunset 7

[dire kayak]

if u on a budget look at pawn shops tbh

[balmy vortex]

Prs

[dire kayak]

great deals on used shit

[dire kayak]

looks cool how does it play

[harsh fern]

sadly dont have many of those here in croatia, and if there is any, rarely will nay have 7 string guitars

[balmy vortex]

Immaculate. You can put this in any tuning and it'll still play incredibly

[dire kayak]

did you go for a real prs or an se

I'd never buy a real prs personally, If I had like 3k for a guitar id get a custom kiesel or halo guitar

[toxic wharf]

Bruh...why spend that amount of money on a guitar anyway if you think even pick ups dont make a real difference

[lethal fractal]

^

I'm not going through that whole convo but it got ugly

[toxic wharf]

If thats my line of thought Id buy an electric hello kitty guitar for 200...go on tour with it and tell everyone: 'but the pick ups sound great! Easy competition for your overpriced duncans!'

[lethal fractal]

Not the Amazon pickups

[toxic wharf]

Meanwhile every other serious touring musician using those 'overpriced' pick ups...what a bunch of fools!!!

Dont they have hearing?!

Cant they hear that 20 dollar stock pick ups can just be equally good sounding? They must be idiots

[lethal fractal]

As well you don't need two pickups I bet most of the things you will be playing will use only the bridge pickup so you could just get one if you'd like and use it and save for another.

[harsh fern]

yeah, we will see tho

as i said i just gotta see if i cant even get the guitar in the first place XD

cuz for me even the 300 for the guitar (after shipping) is still expensive

[lethal fractal]

Which guitar you looking at now?

[harsh fern]

https://www.thomann.de/intl/harley_benton_baritone_7sb_dlx_series.htm

[lethal fractal]

Ah HB

[harsh fern]

yea

[toxic wharf]

Is there a reason you go for a 7 string baritone? Instead of a 6 string baritone or a regular 7 string?

It might open your options

[harsh fern]

nop, no reason

i just want a 7 string

[lethal fractal]

You had stated just for bands you like...

[harsh fern]

cuz most if not all the stuff i listen to is on a 7 string or more

[lethal fractal]

May you list some of those bands?

[harsh fern]

sure

Lorna shore
Aether realm
Dream Theatre
Veil of Maya
Archspire

and more

[lethal fractal]

I wouldn't go for this with when you said you have 1k you are willing to work with.
In another server had a big talk about the exact same guitar and just HB in general not being great for quality.

[harsh fern]

i dont have 1k, but as i said that would be the like the upper most limit

since atm i dont have a jjob

the cheaper the better

but ofc i am looking for one

[toxic wharf]

No but than saving is the better option if you do have that option

[lethal fractal]

If you are willing 1k most then do 1k

[lethal fractal]

For your wallet but not the guitar

[toxic wharf]

Its generally worse for your wallet to take the cheapest thing when you know you will have more to spend in the foreseeable future

Believe me: you will still spend that money and than youve wasted 300 dollars on junk

If you know you wont get that 1K in the foreseeable future than sure

[harsh fern]

yeah thats the thing

im not sure

[toxic wharf]

Its 'just' 1K

If you have the luxury to play electric guitar that shouldnt be that hard to achieve

You gonna end up spending it anyway if you are somewhat serious

[lethal fractal]

Working even a part time job you could get to that in probably a handful of months

[harsh fern]

yeah thats true

[toxic wharf]

300 dollar is a waste, 1000 dollar is a bargain above 2000 an investment

[lethal fractal]

If you were to save I think the conversion is like 1,300eur I'd sell you a 9 string 😅

[harsh fern]

ehh thats too much for me XD

i doubt ill play anything more than a 7 string \

[lethal fractal]

Good

I have dreams with a 9 string I'm just to bad at guitar to do those things 🙃

[harsh fern]

if i will every play anything more than a 7 string

ill gradually go up

7, 8, 9

[lethal fractal]

Don't go 9

8 is already super small for what you can do and the skill needed...

[harsh fern]

yeah i probablt wont, but if i would, thats how id do it

[fervent fox]

Your not missing out with a 9 string trust me on that

[lethal fractal]

For sur

[harsh fern]

im NOT jjust jumping from a 6 to a 9 string

that would fuck with my brain so hard

[lethal fractal]

I started on a 7

[lethal fractal]

Yea lmao, I got some cool ideas so I honestly might just keep it collecting dust for like 10 years and work on my skill until I can do something with it.

Selling it seems pointless as would take forever as well as I don't have much to put it towards.

I also don't know what it is about one of my 6 strings but the string feel really really tight when fretting but when bending still feel so normal it's perfect never felt it on any other guitar no clue why it does it

[harsh fern]

well, thank you guys for the advice, i really appriciate, the reason why i was looking for the cheap one is cuz lately ive had a massive surge of wanting to learn more of my fav songs, and most of them are on a 7 string

but yeah i think i might just save up for a schecter sunset 7

ty again for the advice

[toxic wharf]

But I wanna make mud

[lethal fractal]

I use my 9 more for jazz now then anything

[lethal fractal]

Probably best, good luck with it.

https://youtu.be/hTshhL-OVLw?si=jrQp3y4Ke0YwFtMN

I still find this to be a beautiful way to use a 9

[harsh fern]

9 string guitars are really just "we dont need a bass player" but taken to a new level XD

[toxic wharf]

It sounds worse than a bass

[lethal fractal]

For bass purposes does not work at all

[harsh fern]

i know i know, im jsut kidding

[tame frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZeB55sLgOA

i can tell its mostly a clean tone but how do u achieve it?

[lethal fractal]

Compression pedal, clean amp with a bit of overdrive. depends what tools you have at your disposal.

[tame frigate]

i have an 808 pedal vst does that owkr?

[lethal fractal]

Probably would work.
That type of playing tends to have a good amount of compression.

[tame frigate]

alrighty thanks

[lethal fractal]

Have fun

[fervent fox]

Just went on FB and saw that my local music shop just got in a used Suhr Modern ‘19. It’s selling for…. $2499

[dire kayak]

they do make a real difference, it's just pretty small compared to other stuff

[lethal fractal]

Yes they make a real difference

Clarity probably being the biggest thing

[dire kayak]

clarity was the main reason I pointed out to switch in the first place

if they're muddy they're shit

if they're not muddy they're probably fine

if you're chasing a particular guitar tone though work on amp eq and speaker

pickups won't make the biggest difference

clarity and compression yeah it can make a change

[lethal fractal]

They don't make the biggest difference for tonal purposes but they also do make a difference and for people who want a specific tone they get specific pickups as well different pickups pickup frequencys at different levels and you can also make different strings bite more with adjustment of the height of the magnets as well as dynamics pickups make a pretty big difference

Order your Amazon pickups then order some BKP

https://youtu.be/MxMxqZv4910?si=9XYce7bpl7ZII_wB

damn it works

[dire kayak]

when I can afford that comparison I'll do a direct comparison

maybe i can find emg clones since I've alr got a set of those

[lethal fractal]

If you can find a 1-1 clone for a cheaper price that would be amazing

[wind mauve]

how do you even tune that

[lethal fractal]

Idk

[wind mauve]

my only guess would be "carefully"

[lethal fractal]

Ya, you could do some cool tunings to be fair

[tame frigate]

i think you need an ir or cab sim

[tame frigate]

referring back to this track, is ther a more popular example of a similar song online with resources on how to play? i would like to achieve this style

[digital mesa]

I wouldn't bother with the Lite version of Ableton. You will be hitting the limits (number of tracks, etc) very quickly. I gave that version a go (because I used a full suite pirated version many moons ago for EDM stuff), but eventually changed to Reaper and haven't looked back. It's not the prettiest, but boy is it functional and able to have everything you need for recording and producing

[lethal fractal]

A preamplifier might help if the signal from the distortion pedal is to harsh

Just got amp Sims

Get

And irs

[lethal fractal]

Just get an amp Sim so you can make sound

[lethal fractal]

What mics did you get?

[lethal fractal]

Good

Just making sure you aren't buying like ribbon mics

It's good for cabs

Yea I hot a 58

You will find out what it's like "in studio"

Ya

God I hate and love miking cabs

Lmfao that's just personal preference

I'm an extreme audiophile/perfectionist... It's personal preferences but there are tones that fit styles and how they sound in a mix.

Ah well that's pretty easy

[storm trellis]

fuckin love that the some of the only production model guitars with kahlers are 1,400 buck Deans with V necks

[lethal fractal]

Hugh?

I have heard some bad things about those but never looked into them much

[storm trellis]

most of the bad rep is from early kahler where they were just a ripoff of floyd rose

but they've had different design for decades

floating trem with a cam and no back routing

cool design

[lethal fractal]

Just get an ibby
Anyways goodnight

[storm trellis]

and id love to try one but i cant find a decent production model guitar with one

[lethal fractal]

That fact I messed up night that bad shows I need it haha

[lethal fractal]

Usually how it goes, just need to install one yourself or get it installed

[storm trellis]

might be the best option

[dry parrot]

@lethal fractal i made a short back to back comparison of a passive seyour duncan jb vs my active emg guitar if ur interested

they sound pretty close

since they're both kinda high output

but the emgs cost a lot more

[lethal fractal]

Passive vs active will alway sound different unless you got max gain max compression…

[dry parrot]

forgive my terrible guitar playing but here's with higher gain, its loud turn down volume

first is i think seymour duncan passive second is emg active

i thought the difference was pretty small but maybe its just the gain

[lethal fractal]

I got only my phone so I don't have very good sound quality but I'll take a listen

Then tomorrow listen on some better equipment

[dry parrot]

i could also try record something with less gain

but ill use the same two guitars

[lethal fractal]

Possibly something you can also play... So they match

[dry parrot]

yeah i was fumbling this a bit

i got home and decided to do a quick comparison to see how big the difference was

i can do a more controlled test tomorrow maybe

[lethal fractal]

I was able to tell what was active and not from the recording though and on a phone so

[dry parrot]

do you have those bare knuckle pickups

that you talked about

[lethal fractal]

Getting them on my next guitar...

[lethal fractal]

I know a few people who have them though

[dry parrot]

i was gonna say maybe you can try a back to back comparison

since ur prob a lot better at guitar than me

im good at guitar when im not recording

as soon as i record i play like shit

its like panic or overfocusing i think

[lethal fractal]

Always record when playing good thing to do in that case...

I do have 40 ish guitars at my disposal I could do some stuff...

[dry parrot]

obviously though have all the same tone knob setting/pickup and try to match the volume between them

that may sound like it defeats the purpose but hear me out

[lethal fractal]

Volume bias is a thing...

It makes sense...

[dry parrot]

yeah thats along the lines of what i was gonna say

[lethal fractal]

They have different potentiometers in them and what no so same tone knob settings is a bit hard

[dry parrot]

i just went by ear

and got pretty close

whats funny is the more expensive guitar with emgs probably sounds worse

the $150 ibanez gio sounds better

in my opinion

just the output is slightly different

but tone is close

[lethal fractal]

I hate active pickups

Not a fan at all

I need sleep goodnight

[dry parrot]

gn conic

sleep well

[lethal fractal]

Night man

[dry parrot]

can i add you on discord

you seem pretty cool

[lethal fractal]

Might be picking up a new guitar a bit ish

[lethal fractal]

Picking this up tomorrow

[storm mulch]

That’s clean as fuck

What guitar is it

[lethal fractal]

Charvel

Taking better pictures tomorrow when I get it

[storm mulch]

Can’t wait

Hope it plays like a dream

[lethal fractal]

I'm going to lower the action and some thicker strings and just adjust the trem, played it for an hour today and I really enjoyed it just I always was hitting the volume nob so will have to adjust to that a bit but I like it

[dire cobalt]

Anyone know if this is a problem and how to fix it the saddle block of my high e string is tilted forward

[high tangle]

Are there any loose screws on it man?

It shouldn't be lifted forward like that, might risk breaking the string more easily

[silver pewter]

guys do single pickup guitars in fact sound better because generating less background noise and give cleaner sound?

[toxic wharf]

How single coil pickups exactly generate less background noise than HUMbuckers?

[silver pewter]

alright i got it

[lethal fractal]

Send a picture of the bridge top down

[lethal fractal]

Generally a cleaner sound comes from how hot the pickup is (that’s a big generalization but it’s what everyone goes to)… although single coils do have more background sound then most other pickups.

[lethal fractal]

Some pics of the new guitar

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/D7qeDP3XqsE?si=2vmCgLkZkSYwd1Ns

[storm mulch]

Guys I want a fucking 7 string so bad

6 string is cool but I wanna join the cooler kid club

[lethal fractal]

Save for one

[storm mulch]

I’m trying

That hardwork bouta pay off

The cool kids are gonna accept me

[lethal fractal]

Don't matter how many strings you got to be able to play the thing haha

[storm mulch]

My poor small hands won’t be able to handle 7 but it’d be interesting

[lethal fractal]

That's not true

[storm mulch]

I mean they are but like it’s gonna be so odd to hold it I think idk tho I’ll have to find out when I get it

[lethal fractal]

What will you get?

You get used to it after some time

[storm mulch]

From what I thing ima get is a shecter

Ima try and find the one in specific

[toxic wharf]

6 string is for real guitarplayers. Above that is for kids

[storm mulch]

Woah

I’m a cool kid now

Nice

[storm mulch]

https://www.schecterguitars.com/Damien-7-Multiscale?quantity=1&custitem_color_master_list=618

It’s basic but it seems interesting

[lethal fractal]

Says the AAL enjoyer

[toxic wharf]

Tosin is the exception

He can actually do interesting stuff with extended range

[lethal fractal]

Yes, and he still uses 6 string guitars

[toxic wharf]

And he shreds on those too

No need to be tuned to drop X even his 8 strings are often standard tuning

[lethal fractal]

Once you can play six string then you can play 7 then 8 then 9 if you are tosin...

I started on a 7 though so 😅

[toxic wharf]

Im mainly playing 6 string acoustic nowadays

[lethal fractal]

I still got baby fingers acoustic hurts (not really but it's still stiffer) I have a lot of respect for some of the really good acoustic players

[storm mulch]

I’m scared of people who play 12 string acoustics

Those are truly the people I fear

[toxic wharf]

Why? Generally 12 strings are used for some open chord strumming

Its not hard to use

Easier than a 8 string for instance

Which takes a little bit to get used to as you have to translate your scales but a 12 string nah

[storm mulch]

Oh so I used it wrong for the hour I wasted over at guitar center

I feel dumb now

[toxic wharf]

The string under your e is just another e

Under your a another a

They are just octaves you play at the same time

[storm mulch]

What the fuck

I never realized

Oh

😭

[lethal fractal]

Don't tell us you where playing each string one by one lmao

[dire cobalt]

Does it look like the intonation screw is loose?

[storm mulch]

It looks loose yea

It’s at an angle compared to the rest

[storm mulch]

Oh no I was strumming to my hearts content

[lethal fractal]

Yes

It looks like it's to forward so you are running out of screw

[storm mulch]

It’s also pretty angled compared to the rest as well

[lethal fractal]

That seems to be due to just it running out of thread so it's just getting pulled

[dire cobalt]

What do I do

Do I just tighten it

[storm mulch]

Oh that might be how

[lethal fractal]

How old are your strings?

[high tangle]

I'd say so, that might fix it

[dire cobalt]

A week old

I noticed it was lose when I got it back from being restring

[lethal fractal]

You should tighten it a bit see if that fixes anything and then try to retune and see where your intonation is

[lethal fractal]

So the shop did a bad job :\

[dire cobalt]

Unfortunately

[lethal fractal]

Do you know how to intonate a guitar?

[dire cobalt]

Yes

[lethal fractal]

Okay tighten the screw see if it fixes the problem and then try to intonate if it fixes the issue...

[dire kayak]

was bored this weekend so i scalloped my squiers neck

oh that's a bad focus

[lethal fractal]

What in da world

[lethal fractal]

How you feel about it

[dire kayak]

idk I can't play it until the finish cures

[lethal fractal]

Well yes... Though how do you feel about the job you did?

[dire kayak]

i think I did pretty good

could have done better sanding

[lethal fractal]

I'm just trying to figure out where you sanded down to the neck... was that accidental or was something there?

[dire kayak]

oh i did that in place of the dot inlays

intentional

[lethal fractal]

You still had the side dots. Well I'm interested to see where it goes

[dire kayak]

it's going on a cheap squier strat

which happens to be my first guitar

but idc abt the sentimental value

[lethal fractal]

I know it is :)

Very happy it is a cheap neck

[dire kayak]

yeah it's my first time scalloping a neck

next time I do it I'm gonna do it on a beautiful schecter

[lethal fractal]

I'd recommend just leaving it to the top professionals...

I got techs who has been working on guitars 20+ years who wouldn't touch that kind of work

[dire kayak]

i was joking, in not gonna touch my nice guitar

[lethal fractal]

Good haha

[lethal fractal]

Random guitar bs

[bitter yew]

Can someone who knows how to do Midwest emo vocals dm me. I need on a song

[wind mauve]

why are you asking in the guitar chat and not the vocals chat

[visual pond]

https://youtu.be/Ch27sqek88U?si=WZrGdoVpNpaOp-yS

For the nerds 🤓

[wind mauve]

hey its me a nerd

oh damn y'all use a 6?

FCFAAA is not a tuning i've seen before actually

[visual pond]

@wind mauve it’s Buster’s tuning just not as low. Yeah we prefer baritone 6’s. Easier to play this style imo. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻

[wind mauve]

i like the guitar tho, solars are cool

[lethal fractal]

Sounds pretty cool

[visual pond]

I’ll always be a Solar Artist. They take great care of us!

[lethal fractal]

Finally got my Daw working so I mashed something quick and random together

(Delete the file after downloading on mobile lol) Do not need it taking up space

[wind mauve]

is that archetype him tenson

[lethal fractal]

Plini

[wind mauve]

ah i see i see

i think tim henson is the only "clean" plugin you could sell me on honestly

if you tried to blind test me with clean guitar sounds i could not tell the difference between them

[lethal fractal]

I dont like what tims has to offer kinda boring

[wind mauve]

i mean in terms of clean sounds

i'd argue it's the best simply cause every other amp can do clean sounds by turning the gain down, or they just include a clean amp

[lethal fractal]

I am happy with Plini, Nolly and Petrucci

[wind mauve]

but i'd still rather have an actual amp, i'm just working within my budget here and it's cheaper to have an archetype nolly than to have a bogner and a 5150 and a kraken

[lethal fractal]

Fair

Got some foam

$50 for all of it

[wind mauve]

yeah space is the other concern

[lethal fractal]

Fair

[wind mauve]

the parents' basement is great for living in but it's crowded in here with just me

[lethal fractal]

I got more then enough space haha

Although it is getting crowded with cases as both the storage rooms are full of my grandmothers garbage

I got another case on its way as well

[wind mauve]

i just got a gigantic couch down here

and furniture on every wall p much

so having my computer area being my studio is the best i can do

[lethal fractal]

100%

My guitar came with a free $100 gift card haha so just used it to pay of most of a case

[wind mauve]

damn hope the jackson im lookin at comes with something like that

get a gig bag and stand for it in one go

[lethal fractal]

I got a hard case

[dry parrot]

i thought that stuff hardly works

you should get like bass traps

the acoustic panel ones

[lethal fractal]

Those panels work for what they do... Currently they are just going into storage for when I have my room built to shape so that I can set them up though probably will grt bass traps as well if I feel I need them.
I got those from a buddy for $50 so mine as well get them

[dry parrot]

not a bad price then

i see

what are you using them for

i need to find something good so I can crank my amp for recording

[lethal fractal]

It will be just to cancel some high reflection off some stuff I have in the basement but I'm going to get just some big curtains as well for around my studio area

[wind mauve]

i dont got room for hard case

in my house or in my car

gig bags work fine

[lethal fractal]

Ya that's fair

[dry parrot]

i see

[wind mauve]

actually when my buddy let me borrow his jackson it didn't even fit in the trunk

[dry parrot]

what would you recommend to be able to record amps since you seem pretty knowledgeable

all ive heard is that bass traps are decent and i know nothing else

[wind mauve]

so im worried that if i get this multiscale jackson it's also not gonna fit lol

[wind mauve]

shure sm57

[dry parrot]

no so i dont annoy the neighbors

i already have a mic

i have an sm57 for now, maybe later on ill try some fancier stuff, directional mics etc

[lethal fractal]

Thick walls building secondary walls

[wind mauve]

turn the volume down

16head

[dry parrot]

but then recording is not possible

i can use plugins but an amp is cooler

[lethal fractal]

You don't need a very loud amp to record it...

[dry parrot]

yeah but my parents also complain about any sound that can be detected outside my door

maybe i can move my recording setup to the garage

[lethal fractal]

You can get treatment for your doors

As well any vents

Face the amp towards some outside walls

You don't need a loud amp to record well

Volume bias is a thing... As well you can boost the volume in post production.

[dry parrot]

yeah i have a 1x12 that has a tone that i like

[lethal fractal]

Having a super loud amp for recording honestly just makes issues clipping and all of that.

[wind mauve]

what you really want is for your tone to sound like japanese video game OST guitarists

https://youtu.be/c2HB4Jsgkkc?si=7IaSyut9JYM4yj_V

how do they get this tone

i need it

[lethal fractal]

I'll see if I can replicate it maybe later or tomorrow

[wind mauve]

on god?

lemme know how it goes

i can also get more examples

[lethal fractal]

Feel free to DM

[wind mauve]

word lemme add you up

[thick delta]

yeah cool kids

[dire hamlet]

Yes. People who main 7 & 8 strings only know how to play 1 or 2 strings

[coarse condor]

not necessarily

8 string thats probably the case tho

7 not so much

[toxic wharf]

Mostly yes

[graceful socket]

Never have I been so offended by something I absolutely agree with

[gritty garden]

Joshua Travis would like a word with you

[toxic wharf]

Lmao

[gritty garden]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-ultravioletriot-joshua-travis-magic-mirror-gif-3548217352716557271

[toxic wharf]

Global limit on sale of extended range guitars demanded

[lethal fractal]

Archspire has entered the chat

Does anyone know any good digital drum kit and bass for more prog style of music? Preferably something free or under like $50

(Ping me with any responses)

[fervent fox]

What we talkin on price range?

[wind mauve]

bro's never heard of trivium

[toxic wharf]

Bruh...most trivium songs are 6 string tunes

[toxic wharf]

All extended range guitars ought to be destroyed.

Selling them should be banned unless you know all modes of the major, harmonic minor and melodic minor scale

[wind mauve]

they've used 7s since crusade

plus all the cool ITCOTD riffs are 7

[gleaming wing]

Excuse you

I quite enjoy my 7 string thank you

[thick delta]

it just sounds better than pitch shifting

cry about it

[lethal fractal]

But baritones exist that's the whole point of them is to go lower... The point to extend range guitars is well in the name extended range it gives you more range which most people don't use the full range of the guitars so why own one you are paying for things you aren't going to use when there are other options.

[wind mauve]

sell all your normal guitars and buy a lap steel

[lethal fractal]

Get a djent stick

[sterile valley]

i bought a baritone on reverb that was supposedly used by alex terrible. turns out it's just an audio recording of weird bear noises. shoulda read the post better. BEARitone isn't the same thing

[wind mauve]

next guitar 🗣️⁉️

[lethal fractal]

Get a harp they are honestly underestimated for musicial abilities they are really pretty I miss the one I used to live with

[toxic wharf]

You do you

[wind mauve]

🗣️🔥

[lethal fractal]

Got videos of people playing these?

[wind mauve]

i do not

i was just curious if they had 7 and 8 string lap steels

they also have 9 string ones too

djent steel

lap djent

[lethal fractal]

I'm thinking of getting one of Nollys basses

Kinda want

[toxic wharf]

Plini is djenting a lute in the song Still Life with Tosin

[lethal fractal]

It's great

[toxic wharf]

Yep

Plini playing 6 string guitars in drop D. He the man

[lethal fractal]

Didn't know it was a lute?

[toxic wharf]

I dont know if it was...looks like it in the beginning

[lethal fractal]

I honestly don't like dropped tunings super much besides for chords

[wind mauve]

ah here we go

the josh travis lap steel

certified emmure moment

[thick delta]

my understanding is ppl use the high strings for leads

[lethal fractal]

Some

I mean I listen to archspire they do

Then you got some other bands that only use the lowest 3 strings

[lethal fractal]

Wtf

[toxic wharf]

Aka deathcore bands

[lethal fractal]

^

Was going to say darko...

[toxic wharf]

Yes

[lethal fractal]

I'll listen to deathcore form time to time if I'm hating life

Literally why I listened to it 😂

[wind mauve]

not always! sometimes they don't even use guitars

[lethal fractal]

[wind mauve]

thats why you gotta listen to the good deathcore bands and not the modern uwu pitch shifter san please fill in for my lack of riffs

[lethal fractal]

The top comment "Dude really came out wearing a jacket made of ceiling insulation shredding a lute" haha

I honestly really like lutes or some of the more extreme instruments from back then I mean they all used to tune really low but would use it for chords and what not.

[wind mauve]

like the dingwall 🗣️⁉️

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/PptQJv4wxdg?si=_LLJKiBBtwUxk4ig

[lethal fractal]

This thing

[wind mauve]

they look pretty sick

[lethal fractal]

I love Brandon he recently said guitarist are going to shit because if you ask a guitarist to play happy birthday in C major 90% of them would have no clue what to do

And don't get them started with sheet music

[lethal fractal]

Yes

The 6 string

[wind mauve]

im kinda like nolly if my hair was on top of my head instead of the bottom and also if i was canadian and not british

[lethal fractal]

Sweet mama

[wind mauve]

they're really cool yeah

can always get the nolly bass library

CPU is the best bassist and all that

[lethal fractal]

Nah I'll kidnap Charles force him to play for me

[wind mauve]

note to self don't become a bassist

you get kidnapped

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[wind mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-what-da-hell-little-big-planet-what-ayo-what-gif-13768843195184919620

[lethal fractal]

Give mee quad cortex now 0_0

[fervent fox]

Or just buy a ukulele and shove a fishmen pickup somewhere on it and do something nobodies ever seen before

[lethal fractal]

Rather put my dinky Gio pickups in it then Fishmans

Nylon strings anyways so won't get anything interfering with the magnets but meh

[wind mauve]

fishman acoustic pickup

yknow that thing they made before the electric pickups

[lethal fractal]

I have some

[lethal fractal]

Any luck with this?

[dire cobalt]

i've been too scared to do it but my guitars been going out of tune so i'll just bring it to the shop as the bridge is tilted forward aswell